[00:58] I'm back [00:58] Welcome back. Problem taken care of? [00:58] yes and thank you [00:59] Welcome back. [01:00] thanks, to answer your question belkinsa I have left a detailed message over on #ubuntu and no one got back to me. [01:01] Not #xubuntu? [01:02] * belkinsa is contacting the project lead, knome [01:02] Umm, why? [01:03] If it's a Xubuntu problem, shouldn't go to the Xubuntu support channel? Knome might know, that's why I pinged him. [01:03] By the way, starrats, since you now have a Ubuntu One account. You can ask at www.askubuntu.com [01:04] It's the same as everything else... #ubuntu is an option, #xubuntu may be better but don't post to both... [01:04] my problem is that I have win7 and it has its own partitioning program and I have used wubi and another boot loader, two different times, I get to the purple screen with the little red dots going back and forth and then it goes black I see a little font statement at the beginning of all of this and nothing happens and after a bit I get one of those little 'spin clocks' in the upper left hand corner and it just stays and stays, [01:04] this is roughly a 15 minute adventure. [01:05] ah okay blekinsa [01:05] on the ubuntuone statement [01:05] Sounds like: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/how-to-completely-wipe-windows-8-and-install-linux/1416 [01:05] [ How to completely wipe windows 8 and install linux - Ubuntu Discourse ] - https://j.mp/1bnD6FQ [01:07] Although I hate windows with a passion, my GF would have a screaming fit because she and I have identical Toshiba laptops I'm currently on Virtualbox [01:07] she needs my help a lot with windows every so often [01:08] Idea: get a Ubuntu sticker for your laptop to mark it as yours. [01:08] Or an Xubuntu one. [01:08] Sticker = printout of the logo and taped onto the lid [01:08] lol, but that's not the problem she wants us to have the same thing and she is petrified of linux [01:08] even tho I have told her it is cool [01:09] Did you try to show her it? [01:09] no not yet but soon, she doesn't even know I have set up VirtualBox yet and running xubuntu, lol [01:10] Why is she scared of Linux? [01:11] Wait, so she'd have a fit, because you installed another OS on to your own, unshared laptop? 0_o [01:11] don't know but she is frightened to a point about windows, I'm 61 years old and she is a little older and a grandma that might be the whole thing [01:11] Oh, I see. [01:11] Age. [01:11] yes age [01:12] Does she think Linux = all in command line or what? [01:13] she doesn't understand that linux does the samething that windows does for things she uses the computer for [01:13] Oh. [01:14] command line stuff, i have told her about that a little and it kind of freaks her out and in the same breath I said she would not have to ever do that [01:14] Really, I think the best thing, is show it to her and show that Firefox does the same as IE and Libreoffice does the same as M$. [01:14] Wait, do that on Windows first. [01:14] well I did install on her laptop Apache Open Office so she can use that [01:14] And tell her that command line is not needed for everyday users. [01:15] Close enough, [01:15] I have done that [01:15] And you guys have Firefox? [01:15] I was using FF but now I'm on chrome because she is on chrome [01:15] Look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu That could help you [01:15] [ StartUbuntu - Ubuntu Wiki ] - https://j.mp/1bnECrC [01:16] Chrome works on Ubuntu. [01:16] and I am using chromium on xubuntu because ff went wacky the other day, lol [01:16] Could this video help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI&feature=youtu.be [01:16] [ What the Tech Industry Has Learned from Linus Torvalds: Jim Zemlin at TEDxConcordiaUPortland - YouTube ] - https://j.mp/1bnEGHL [01:16] And http://iamnewtolinux.blogspot.com/p/about-iamnewtolinux.html [01:16] [ Hello, I'm New To Linux! : About IamNewToLinux ] - https://j.mp/1bnEIzx [01:17] well the biggest hassle is that she is set in her ways on many things including her comp. lol [01:18] Ah, she is a ram. I see. [01:18] I'm going to show her soon my Virtualbox and show her xubuntu is cool [01:18] starrats: Do you use Pepperflash with Chromium? [01:18] she sure uis, lol [01:18] Good luck on that, show that video, if needed. [01:19] Unit193 nev er heard of Pepperflash [01:20] Only reason to use chromium. :D [01:20] But isn't it dropping Flash support? [01:20] Eh? [01:20] Chromium [01:21] I don't know, not my browser. And, it wouldn't be dropping flash anyway, perhaps PPAPI, but not flash. [01:21] *NPAPI [01:22] Nevermind, and I'm not even going to search OMG! Ubuntu [01:22] no currently ff is/or has 'exploded' in the upper left corner of FB and I use FB a lot, there's a good xubuntu page there now [01:22] and FB just didn't work on xubuntu but works fine on win7 [01:22] I'd recommend not looking there anyway. :P [01:22] starrats: Weird, works fine for the people using it here... :/ [01:23] what FB [01:23] FB? As in Facebook? It should work on every type of computer OS. [01:23] there=OMG!Ubuntu terrible site. [01:23] it could be a combination of things including VirtualBox, that is why I would love to partition my win7 HD [01:23] But by all means, if you prefer Chromium, use it. I myself use Xombrero quite a bit, and firefox as well. [01:24] * belkinsa wishes skellat was here [01:25] What do you need him for? [01:25] Can always email. [01:25] Yeah, but I was thinking if he could help starrats. [01:26] Err. [01:26] Or not. [01:26] I'm just returning to linux, been gone for a few years, had a macbook and just stopped using it, I ran opensuse 10 and slackware about 8 years ago and forgot a lot of stuff, so basically I'm a noob again, lol [01:27] and was on freenode back when I belonged to #linuxforums [01:28] I was only back in '08, but think FN dropped the nick at one point, came back couple years later. [01:29] as you know Unit193 I have my own channel here and I had it back then and asked the freenode to give it back to me and they did [01:30] heck I even had my own weather bot [01:30] * Unit193 still does, but never uses it since he wrote his own script to do it. [01:37] have a long time friend here on my other channel I go to and now he's on #xubuntu here occasionally and I asked him to help me with my problem. [01:37] * Unit193 wonders if he knows the nick. [01:38] the nick is new but his nick name is adrenaline_ or adrenaline [01:39] new to that channel not new to linux, he belongs to #xubuntu-us-az [09:15] Wooww, dh_make... [10:55] good morning everyone! [10:57] Crap. [10:57] Howdy. [10:58] good morning [14:10] Do know when starrats will be back? [16:06] good morning to you all again! [16:31] sleepy heads over here too, lol! [19:21] Dang it! He is gone again! [19:45] good afternoon everyone! [19:45] Hey there, starrats. How are you? [19:46] I'm fine, how are you belkinsa? [19:46] I'm fine, just got my hair cut. [19:47] lol, I need to get mine it's almost an inch long [19:47] Any luck on showing Linux to your girlfriend? [19:47] Or getting Xubuntu on to your laptop/ [19:48] neither but I do have a question. [19:48] Go ahead. [19:49] I have been trying to install an iso with amd64 on the end of it would an ending with i386 make a difference? [19:50] Yes! It's a HUGE difference! i386 is for 32-bit machines. [19:51] Amd64 is for 64 bit ones [19:51] ah okay then I have been trying with the correct one I have win7 with 64 bit laptop [19:51] But you can run a 32-bit version of Ubuntu on a machine that can run 64 bit. [19:52] so I'm still stuck with the installation problems, lol [19:53] Okay, this might work. Try to install a 32-bit (i386) version of Xubuntu and see if that will work. But I think you should run the LiveCD and try it out first. [19:53] well when I was trying yo install or load ubuntu 13.10 64 bit version on my virtualbox it said it could not load and need an i386 iso [19:53] Okay, seems that you VB can only run the 32-bit versions. [19:54] but the xubuntu I'm using now on VB is working just fine, I'm chatting with you, lol [19:54] 32-bit versions of Ubuntu are the only option for computers with less than 2GB of RAM. [19:54] and it's 13.10 64 bit [19:55] I think it's becuase of the different requirements that two favours need. [19:55] s/becuase/because [19:55] belkinsa meant to say: I think it's because of the different requirements that two favours need. [19:56] ah okay will have to check my ram but it should be more than 2GB [19:56] Also, running off of a LiveCD and testing out on your main system is the way to go at time. [19:56] s/time/times [19:56] belkinsa meant to say: Also, running off of a LiveCD and testing out on your main system is the way to go at times. [19:59] VBox can do 64 or 32, just need to set it. Ubuntu 32bit uses a PAE kernel, so you can have more than 4G of ram with it. [20:01] I have used livecd aka a dvd and I did look I have 4GB ran with 3.48 GB available, so I'm still trying to figure out why I can't load ubuntu on a patitioned hd [20:01] Have you done your homework (read: research) on the problem to find the solution? [20:02] I have been reading it off and on, need to go to ubuntu help and see what is the problem [20:02] If not: check Ubuntu Forums (ubuntuforums.org) and Ask Ubuntu (askubuntu.com/) [20:03] http://askubuntu.com* [20:03] ok thanks for those links belkinsa [20:03] Not a problem. [20:04] I don't if the Community Help Wiki would be a place to check, since the Doc team is having a hard time getting that wiki cleaned up and up to date. [20:04] I woman aka my GF watches little ones during the week and I have to help her a lot, so my time is limited on the reading but will be making more an effort to find ou my problem [20:04] s/I don't/I don't know [20:04] belkinsa meant to say: I don't know if the Community Help Wiki would be a place to check, since the Doc team is having a hard time getting that wiki cleaned up and up to date. [20:06] starrats: If you have a newer computer it may have UEFI, which would require 64bit. [20:07] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [20:07] [ UEFI - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1mHKDom [20:09] well my laptop is a toshiba and I bout 2 of them 2 years ago this July one for me and the other for GF and they had win7 installed on them and a bought a month later win8 came out, so I don't know if it has UEFI on it is there away to find out thru the control panel? [20:09] bought [20:09] and about [20:09] It's cool. [20:10] jenni here has a command where you can correct what you said. [20:10] foo [20:10] belkinsa: Here is there is here is here is there is everywhere there and here? [20:10] s/foo/foa [20:10] belkinsa meant to say: foa [20:10] And she also can give you the weather for your area [20:10] .wx 45066 [20:10] Cover: Clear ☼, Temp: 28.4°F (-2.0°C), Dew Point: 6.8°F (-14.0°C), Windchill: 12.4°F (-10.9°C), Pressure: 29.52in (996.85mb) Condition: Haze, Wind: Strong breeze 27.0kt (↑) - KMGY, 19:53Z [20:10] Temp: 25 F (-4 C) ~ haze ~ Windchill: 12 F (-11 C) ~ Humidity: 60% ~ Alert: Winter Weather Advisory ~ Observed: Sat 25, 14:52 [20:10] :D [20:11] I have a bot that gives me weather but it's owner is in the UK and I convert C to F for temps, lol [20:11] Check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_an_Ubuntu_has_been_installed_in_EFI_mode [20:11] [ UEFI - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1mHLm93 [20:12] Please use the long link, but this for Ubuntu, not Windows. [20:13] okay, I have the links you gave me bookmarked for later perusal [20:13] .wx 44240 [20:13] Cover: Overcast ☁, Temp: 24.8°F (-4.0°C), Dew Point: 21.2°F (-6.0°C), Windchill: 9.9°F (-12.3°C), Pressure: 29.33in (990.43mb) Condition: Light Snow, Mist, Wind: Fresh breeze 19.0kt (↑) - KAKR, 20:09Z [20:14] so jenni is a bot? [20:15] Yes, jenni is a bot. [20:15] ubuntulog_, is another that just logs. [20:15] ah okay cool [20:16] never met a female bot, lol [20:16] I know of two. One is here and another is in another channel. [20:17] ubottu is female. [20:17] Really? [20:17] the bot I use on my channel and it's original channel is called Chief|Wiggum [20:17] Is DragonEyes also a female? [20:17] No. [20:17] I have jenni and ubuntulog2 in a channel that I run. [20:17] Oh? I though he was a she. [20:27] ? I have been using the win7 partition and format screen from the control panel and wubi shows up to help, I follow all the instructions and when I get to the last window asking me to reboot now or reboot later or reboot with cd help I choose the last one i.e. reboot with cd help, I presume it means the livecd in the D drive and when I reboot I get the purple screen with the red dots doing their thing and then nothing happens, [20:27] this is my problem in a nutshell [20:28] I remember. Sorry, but I can't help you any further. Can you try again in the #ubuntu channel? You might need to wait for someone to reply so keep the client/webpage open. [20:29] ah okay belkinsa [20:30] Or you can ask on Ask Ubuntu, if you can't keep your client/webpage open. [20:30] wish I could copy and paste, lol [20:30] Allow me. [20:30] okay [20:31] Lame try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816444/ [20:31] [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - https://j.mp/1mHOKki [20:32] Or should I remove the timestamp and the nick? [20:33] Without the extra carp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816449/ [20:33] [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - https://j.mp/1mHOXUG [20:34] thank you belkinsa :) [20:34] Not a problem. Sorry for the long line though. [20:35] that's okay I copied and pasted to th #ubuntu channel now I will wait to see if anyone will help me [20:35] Okay, good luck. [20:35] Sometimes I have to wait myself when I need support. [20:36] thank you again [20:36] Not a problem. [20:37] I would keep both xubuntu on VB and have ubuntu on my HD. Back in the day I had a partitioned hd with opensuse and slackware, would go back and forth [20:37] I once dualbooted, but I only have Ubuntu now. [20:39] If I had my druthers I would dump win7 and have ubuntu only on my hd but I cannot atm because of my GF [21:13] got my answerr from #ubuntu from a nick named Beldar, he/she states that wubi isn't used that much anyomre and I should do a standard install or use VirtualBox, so I think I will bypass this and continue with what I have. [21:17] Ah. [21:17] I see now. [21:18] But when the time comes, will you do a standard install? [21:24] Yes but I forgot how, that's why I have been using the win7 partition and format app. but everytime I try to install wubi shows up and if I bypass it nothing happens [22:06] I'm back, lol [22:06] It's quiet here like always... [22:06] And every other channel that I'm in. [22:07] same here, lol [22:09] What are you doing now? [22:12] watching a little basketball in the background and being on here, at this moment in time think I will just stick with xubuntu and virtualbox. [22:13] But will go get a couple new toys at the store in the beginning of February to try another adventure, lol [22:13] I know this is an ubuntu channel but I hope you accept me as a nick here [22:15] be going downstairs in a bit to start supper preparastions [22:15] preparations [22:15] And as a new member/face here? Sure, and we can help you get yourself in the team and get the loop of what happens around the LoCo. [22:16] thank you [22:17] Not a problem. [22:18] And to all, I should have e-mail to the list posted within the next ten minutes about our virtual Ubuntu Hours. [22:21] is it snowing in your area belkinsa [22:21] No. It did earlier this morning but i think it's moving north not south. [22:21] I live in the Greater Cinci area. [22:22] ah okay, been snowing cats and dogs most of the day up here [22:22] ah okay [22:22] I live in Kent OH [22:23] Yeah, I heard it's bad up there from my hairdresser who's daughter goes to OSU. [22:23] ALL: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/virtual-ubuntu-hours/1431 I will have the mailing-list copy up in a minute! [22:23] [ Virtual Ubuntu Hours - Ubuntu Discourse ] - https://j.mp/1feHf3I [22:26] The mailing-list copy is posted and should be in your in-boxes. [22:26] * belkinsa switches back to her normal self [22:38] belkinsa if you are on a lot of channels that is cool because I have my own channel that I use just for almost anything that is decent. It's place to chat and not worry about using up this channel, per se in just everyday stuff, I know this channel is more like a business channel and the old #linuxforums channel was business oriented [22:38] if you want I can invite you to my channel, I did for Unit193 this morning [22:39] Sure, why not. i'm in someone's personal use channel [22:58] Everyone has a channel. :P [22:58] It seems. [23:00] I use mine as STDOUT or STDERR, also slightly Doctor Who. :P