[00:58] <starrats> I'm back
[00:58] <Unit193> Welcome back.  Problem taken care of?
[00:58] <starrats> yes and thank you
[00:59] <belkinsa> Welcome back.
[01:00] <starrats> thanks, to answer your question belkinsa I have left a detailed message over on #ubuntu and no one got back to me.
[01:01] <belkinsa> Not #xubuntu?
[01:02]  * belkinsa is contacting the project lead, knome
[01:02] <Unit193> Umm, why?
[01:03] <belkinsa> If it's a Xubuntu problem, shouldn't go to the Xubuntu support channel?  Knome might know, that's why I pinged him.
[01:03] <belkinsa> By the way, starrats, since you now have a Ubuntu One account.  You can ask at www.askubuntu.com
[01:04] <Unit193> It's the same as everything else... #ubuntu is an option, #xubuntu may be better but don't post to both...
[01:04] <starrats> my problem is that I have win7 and it has its own partitioning program and I have used wubi  and another boot loader, two different times, I get to the purple screen with the little red dots going back and forth and then it goes black  I see a little font statement at the beginning of all of this and nothing happens and after a bit I get one of those little 'spin clocks' in the upper left hand corner and it just stays and stays,
[01:04] <starrats>  this is roughly a 15 minute adventure.
[01:05] <starrats> ah okay blekinsa
[01:05] <starrats> on the ubuntuone statement
[01:05] <belkinsa> Sounds like: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/how-to-completely-wipe-windows-8-and-install-linux/1416
[01:05] <jenni> [ How to completely wipe windows 8 and install linux - Ubuntu Discourse ] - https://j.mp/1bnD6FQ
[01:07] <starrats> Although I hate windows with a passion, my GF would have a screaming fit because she and I have identical Toshiba laptops I'm currently on Virtualbox
[01:07] <starrats> she needs my help a lot with windows every so often
[01:08] <belkinsa> Idea: get a Ubuntu sticker for your laptop to mark it as yours.
[01:08] <belkinsa> Or an Xubuntu one.
[01:08] <belkinsa> Sticker = printout of the logo and taped onto the lid
[01:08] <starrats> lol, but that's not the problem she wants us to have the same thing and she is petrified of linux
[01:08] <starrats> even tho I have told her it is cool
[01:09] <belkinsa> Did you try to show her it?
[01:09] <starrats> no not yet but soon, she doesn't even know I have set up VirtualBox yet and running xubuntu, lol
[01:10] <belkinsa> Why is she scared of Linux?
[01:11] <Unit193> Wait, so she'd have a fit, because you installed another OS on to your own, unshared laptop? 0_o
[01:11] <starrats> don't know but she is frightened to a point about windows, I'm 61 years old and she is a little older and a grandma that might be the whole thing
[01:11] <belkinsa> Oh, I see.
[01:11] <belkinsa> Age.
[01:11] <starrats> yes age
[01:12] <belkinsa> Does she think Linux = all in command line or what?
[01:13] <starrats> she doesn't understand that linux does the samething that windows does for things she uses the computer for
[01:13] <belkinsa> Oh.
[01:14] <starrats> command line stuff, i have told her about that a little and it kind of freaks her out and in the same breath I said she would not have to ever do that
[01:14] <belkinsa> Really, I think the best thing, is show it to her and show that Firefox does the same as IE and Libreoffice does the same as M$.
[01:14] <belkinsa> Wait, do that on Windows first.
[01:14] <starrats> well I did install on her laptop Apache Open Office so she can use that
[01:14] <belkinsa> And tell her that command line is not needed for everyday users.
[01:15] <belkinsa> Close enough,
[01:15] <starrats> I have done that
[01:15] <belkinsa> And you guys have Firefox?
[01:15] <starrats> I was using FF but now I'm on chrome because she is on chrome
[01:15] <belkinsa> Look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu  That could help you
[01:15] <jenni> [ StartUbuntu - Ubuntu Wiki ] - https://j.mp/1bnECrC
[01:16] <belkinsa> Chrome works on Ubuntu.
[01:16] <starrats> and I am using chromium on xubuntu because ff went wacky the other day, lol
[01:16] <belkinsa> Could this video help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI&feature=youtu.be
[01:16] <jenni> [ What the Tech Industry Has Learned from Linus Torvalds: Jim Zemlin at TEDxConcordiaUPortland - YouTube ] - https://j.mp/1bnEGHL
[01:16] <belkinsa> And http://iamnewtolinux.blogspot.com/p/about-iamnewtolinux.html
[01:16] <jenni> [ Hello, I'm New To Linux! : About IamNewToLinux ] - https://j.mp/1bnEIzx
[01:17] <starrats> well the biggest hassle is that she is set in her ways on many things including her comp.  lol
[01:18] <belkinsa> Ah, she is a ram.  I see.
[01:18] <starrats> I'm going to show her soon my Virtualbox and show her xubuntu is cool
[01:18] <Unit193> starrats: Do you use Pepperflash with Chromium?
[01:18] <starrats> she sure uis, lol
[01:18] <belkinsa> Good luck on that, show that video, if needed.
[01:19] <starrats> Unit193 nev er heard of Pepperflash
[01:20] <Unit193> Only reason to use chromium. :D
[01:20] <belkinsa> But isn't it dropping Flash support?
[01:20] <Unit193> Eh?
[01:20] <belkinsa> Chromium
[01:21] <Unit193> I don't know, not my browser.  And, it wouldn't be dropping flash anyway, perhaps PPAPI, but not flash.
[01:21] <Unit193> *NPAPI
[01:22] <belkinsa> Nevermind, and I'm not even going to search OMG! Ubuntu
[01:22] <starrats> no currently ff is/or has 'exploded' in the upper left corner of FB and I use FB a lot, there's a good xubuntu page there now
[01:22] <starrats> and FB just didn't work on xubuntu but works fine on win7
[01:22] <Unit193> I'd recommend not looking there anyway. :P
[01:22] <Unit193> starrats: Weird, works fine for the people using it here... :/
[01:23] <starrats> what FB
[01:23] <belkinsa> FB? As in Facebook?  It should work on every type of computer OS.
[01:23] <Unit193> there=OMG!Ubuntu terrible site.
[01:23] <starrats> it could be a combination of things including VirtualBox, that is why I would love to partition my win7 HD
[01:23] <Unit193> But by all means, if you prefer Chromium, use it.  I myself use Xombrero quite a bit, and firefox as well.
[01:24]  * belkinsa wishes skellat was here
[01:25] <Unit193> What do you need him for?
[01:25] <Unit193> Can always email.
[01:25] <belkinsa> Yeah, but I was thinking if he could help starrats.
[01:26] <Unit193> Err.
[01:26] <belkinsa> Or not.
[01:26] <starrats> I'm just returning to linux, been gone for a few years, had a macbook and just stopped using it,  I ran opensuse 10 and slackware about 8 years ago and forgot a lot of stuff, so basically I'm a noob again, lol
[01:27] <starrats> and was on freenode back when I belonged to #linuxforums
[01:28] <Unit193> I was only back in '08, but think FN dropped the nick at one point, came back couple years later.
[01:29] <starrats> as you know Unit193 I have my own channel here and I had it back then and asked the freenode to give it back to me and they did
[01:30] <starrats> heck I even had my own weather bot
[01:30]  * Unit193 still does, but never uses it since he wrote his own script to do it.
[01:37] <starrats> have a long time friend here on my other channel I go to and now he's on #xubuntu here occasionally and I asked him to help me with my problem.
[01:37]  * Unit193 wonders if he knows the nick.
[01:38] <starrats> the nick is new but his nick name is adrenaline_ or adrenaline
[01:39] <starrats> new to that channel not new to linux, he belongs to #xubuntu-us-az
[09:15] <Unit193> Wooww, dh_make...
[10:55] <starrats> good morning everyone!
[10:57] <Unit193> Crap.
[10:57] <Unit193> Howdy.
[10:58] <starrats> good morning
[14:10] <belkinsa> Do know when starrats will be back?
[16:06] <starrats> good morning to you all again!
[16:31] <starrats> sleepy heads over here too, lol!
[19:21] <belkinsa> Dang it!  He is gone again!
[19:45] <starrats> good afternoon everyone!
[19:45] <belkinsa> Hey there, starrats.  How are you?
[19:46] <starrats> I'm fine, how are you belkinsa?
[19:46] <belkinsa> I'm fine, just got my hair cut.
[19:47] <starrats> lol, I need to get mine it's almost an inch long
[19:47] <belkinsa> Any luck on showing Linux to your girlfriend?
[19:47] <belkinsa> Or getting Xubuntu on to your laptop/
[19:48] <starrats> neither but I do have a question.
[19:48] <belkinsa> Go ahead.
[19:49] <starrats> I have been trying to install an iso with amd64 on the end of it would an ending with i386 make a difference?
[19:50] <belkinsa> Yes!  It's a HUGE difference!   i386 is for 32-bit machines.
[19:51] <belkinsa> Amd64 is for 64 bit ones
[19:51] <starrats> ah okay then I have been trying with the correct one I have win7 with 64 bit laptop
[19:51] <belkinsa> But you can run a 32-bit version of Ubuntu on a machine that can run 64 bit.
[19:52] <starrats> so I'm still stuck with the installation problems, lol
[19:53] <belkinsa> Okay, this might work.  Try to install a 32-bit (i386) version of Xubuntu and see if that will work.  But I think you should run the LiveCD and try it out first.
[19:53] <starrats> well when I was trying yo install or load ubuntu 13.10 64 bit version on my virtualbox it said it could not load and need an i386 iso
[19:53] <belkinsa> Okay, seems that you VB can only run the 32-bit versions.
[19:54] <starrats> but the xubuntu I'm using now on VB is working just fine, I'm chatting with you, lol
[19:54] <belkinsa> 32-bit versions of Ubuntu are the only option for computers with less than 2GB of RAM.
[19:54] <starrats> and it's 13.10 64 bit
[19:55] <belkinsa> I think it's becuase of the different requirements that two favours need.
[19:55] <belkinsa> s/becuase/because
[19:55] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: I think it's because of the different requirements that two favours need.
[19:56] <starrats> ah okay will have to check my ram but it should be more than 2GB
[19:56] <belkinsa> Also, running off of a LiveCD and  testing out on your main system is the way to go at time.
[19:56] <belkinsa> s/time/times
[19:56] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: Also, running off of a LiveCD and  testing out on your main system is the way to go at times.
[19:59] <Unit193> VBox can do 64 or 32, just need to set it.  Ubuntu 32bit uses a PAE kernel, so you can have more than 4G of ram with it.
[20:01] <starrats> I have used livecd aka a dvd and I did look I have 4GB ran with 3.48 GB available, so I'm still trying to figure out why I can't load ubuntu on a patitioned hd
[20:01] <belkinsa> Have you done your homework (read: research) on the problem to find the solution?
[20:02] <starrats> I have been reading it off and on, need to go to ubuntu help and see what is the problem
[20:02] <belkinsa> If not: check Ubuntu Forums (ubuntuforums.org) and Ask Ubuntu (askubuntu.com/)
[20:03] <belkinsa> http://askubuntu.com*
[20:03] <starrats> ok thanks for those links belkinsa
[20:03] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[20:04] <belkinsa> I don't if the Community Help Wiki would be a place to check, since the Doc team is having a hard time getting that wiki cleaned up and up to date.
[20:04] <starrats> I woman aka my GF watches little ones during the week and I have to help her a lot, so my time is limited on the reading but will be making more an effort to find ou my problem
[20:04] <belkinsa> s/I don't/I don't know
[20:04] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: I don't know if the Community Help Wiki would be a place to check, since the Doc team is having a hard time getting that wiki cleaned up and up to date.
[20:06] <Unit193> starrats: If you have a newer computer it may have UEFI, which would require 64bit.
[20:07] <belkinsa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:07] <jenni> [ UEFI - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1mHKDom
[20:09] <starrats> well my laptop is a toshiba and I bout 2 of them 2 years ago this July one for me and the other for GF and they had win7 installed on them and a bought a month later win8 came out, so I don't know if it has UEFI on it is there away to find out thru the control panel?
[20:09] <starrats> bought
[20:09] <starrats> and about
[20:09] <belkinsa> It's cool.
[20:10] <belkinsa> jenni here has a command where you can correct what you said.
[20:10] <belkinsa> foo
[20:10] <jenni> belkinsa: Here is there is here is here is there is everywhere there and here?
[20:10] <belkinsa> s/foo/foa
[20:10] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: foa
[20:10] <belkinsa> And she also can give you the weather for your area
[20:10] <belkinsa> .wx 45066
[20:10] <jenni> Cover: Clear ☼, Temp: 28.4°F (-2.0°C), Dew Point: 6.8°F (-14.0°C), Windchill: 12.4°F (-10.9°C), Pressure: 29.52in (996.85mb) Condition: Haze, Wind: Strong breeze 27.0kt (↑) - KMGY, 19:53Z
[20:10] <Unit193> Temp: 25 F (-4 C) ~ haze ~ Windchill: 12 F (-11 C) ~ Humidity: 60% ~ Alert: Winter Weather Advisory ~ Observed: Sat 25, 14:52
[20:10] <Unit193> :D
[20:11] <starrats> I have a bot that gives me weather but it's owner is in the UK and I convert C to F for temps, lol
[20:11] <belkinsa> Check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_an_Ubuntu_has_been_installed_in_EFI_mode
[20:11] <jenni> [ UEFI - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1mHLm93
[20:12] <belkinsa> Please use the long link, but this for Ubuntu, not Windows.
[20:13] <starrats> okay, I have the links you gave me bookmarked for later perusal
[20:13] <starrats> .wx 44240
[20:13] <jenni> Cover: Overcast ☁, Temp: 24.8°F (-4.0°C), Dew Point: 21.2°F (-6.0°C), Windchill: 9.9°F (-12.3°C), Pressure: 29.33in (990.43mb) Condition: Light Snow, Mist, Wind: Fresh breeze 19.0kt (↑) - KAKR, 20:09Z
[20:14] <starrats> so jenni is a bot?
[20:15] <belkinsa> Yes, jenni is a bot.
[20:15] <belkinsa> ubuntulog_, is another that just logs.
[20:15] <starrats> ah okay cool
[20:16] <starrats> never met a female bot, lol
[20:16] <belkinsa> I know of two.  One is here and another  is in another channel.
[20:17] <Unit193> ubottu is female.
[20:17] <belkinsa> Really?
[20:17] <starrats> the bot I use on my channel and it's original channel is called Chief|Wiggum
[20:17] <belkinsa> Is DragonEyes also a female?
[20:17] <Unit193> No.
[20:17] <belkinsa> I have jenni and ubuntulog2 in a channel that I run.
[20:17] <belkinsa> Oh?  I though he was a she.
[20:27] <starrats> ?  I have been using the win7 partition and format screen from the control panel and wubi shows up to help, I follow all the instructions and when I get to the last window asking me to reboot now or reboot later or reboot with cd help I choose the last one i.e. reboot with cd help, I presume it means the livecd in the D drive and when I reboot I get the purple screen with the red dots doing their thing and then nothing happens,
[20:27] <starrats> this is my problem in a nutshell
[20:28] <belkinsa> I remember.  Sorry, but I can't help you any further.  Can you try again in the #ubuntu channel?  You might need to wait for someone to reply so keep the client/webpage open.
[20:29] <starrats> ah okay belkinsa
[20:30] <belkinsa> Or you can ask on Ask Ubuntu, if you can't keep your client/webpage open.
[20:30] <starrats> wish I could copy and paste, lol
[20:30] <belkinsa> Allow me.
[20:30] <starrats> okay
[20:31] <belkinsa> Lame try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816444/
[20:31] <jenni> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - https://j.mp/1mHOKki
[20:32] <belkinsa> Or should I remove the timestamp and the nick?
[20:33] <belkinsa> Without the extra carp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816449/
[20:33] <jenni> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - https://j.mp/1mHOXUG
[20:34] <starrats> thank you belkinsa  :)
[20:34] <belkinsa> Not a problem.  Sorry for the long line though.
[20:35] <starrats> that's okay I copied and pasted to th #ubuntu channel now I will wait to see if anyone will help me
[20:35] <belkinsa> Okay, good luck.
[20:35] <belkinsa> Sometimes I have to wait myself when I need support.
[20:36] <starrats> thank you again
[20:36] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[20:37] <starrats> I would keep both xubuntu on VB and have ubuntu on my HD.  Back in the day I had a partitioned hd with opensuse and slackware, would go back and forth
[20:37] <belkinsa> I once dualbooted, but I only have Ubuntu now.
[20:39] <starrats> If I had my druthers I would dump win7 and have ubuntu only on my hd but I cannot atm because of my GF
[21:13] <starrats> got my answerr from #ubuntu from a nick named Beldar, he/she states that wubi isn't used that much anyomre and I should do a standard install or use VirtualBox, so I think I will bypass this and continue with what I have.
[21:17] <belkinsa> Ah.
[21:17] <belkinsa> I see now.
[21:18] <belkinsa> But when the time comes, will you do a standard install?
[21:24] <starrats> Yes but I forgot how, that's why I have been using the win7 partition and format app.  but everytime I try to install wubi shows up and if I bypass it nothing happens
[22:06] <starrats> I'm back, lol
[22:06] <belkinsa> It's quiet here like always...
[22:06] <belkinsa> And every other channel that I'm in.
[22:07] <starrats> same here, lol
[22:09] <belkinsa> What are you doing now?
[22:12] <starrats> watching a little basketball in the background and being on here, at this moment in time think I will just stick with xubuntu and virtualbox.
[22:13] <starrats> But will go get a couple new toys at the store in the beginning of February to try another adventure, lol
[22:13] <starrats> I know this is an ubuntu channel but I hope you accept me as a nick here
[22:15] <starrats> be going downstairs in a bit to start supper preparastions
[22:15] <starrats> preparations
[22:15] <belkinsa> And as a new member/face here?  Sure, and we can help you get yourself in the team and get the loop of what happens around the LoCo.
[22:16] <starrats> thank you
[22:17] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[22:18] <belkinsa> And to all, I should have e-mail to the list posted within the next ten minutes about our virtual Ubuntu Hours.
[22:21] <starrats> is it snowing in your area belkinsa
[22:21] <belkinsa> No.  It did earlier this morning but i think it's moving north not south.
[22:21] <belkinsa> I live in the Greater Cinci area.
[22:22] <starrats> ah okay, been snowing cats and dogs most of the day up here
[22:22] <starrats> ah okay
[22:22] <starrats> I live in Kent OH
[22:23] <belkinsa> Yeah, I heard it's bad up there from my hairdresser who's daughter goes to OSU.
[22:23] <belkinsa> ALL: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/virtual-ubuntu-hours/1431 I will have the mailing-list copy up in a minute!
[22:23] <jenni> [ Virtual Ubuntu Hours - Ubuntu Discourse ] - https://j.mp/1feHf3I
[22:26] <belkinsa> The mailing-list copy is posted and should be in your in-boxes.
[22:26]  * belkinsa switches back to her normal self
[22:38] <starrats> belkinsa if you are on a lot of channels that is cool because I have my own channel that I use just for almost anything that is decent.  It's place to chat and not worry about using up this channel, per se in just everyday stuff, I know this channel is more like a business channel and the old #linuxforums channel was business oriented
[22:38] <starrats> if you want I can invite you to my channel, I did for Unit193 this morning
[22:39] <belkinsa> Sure, why not.  i'm in someone's personal use channel
[22:58] <Unit193> Everyone has a channel. :P
[22:58] <belkinsa> It seems.
[23:00] <Unit193> I use mine as STDOUT or STDERR, also slightly Doctor Who. :P