[05:20] morning all [05:20] * Kilos hopes for a peaceful day [05:39] hi Kilos [05:40] hi inetpro you are early [05:40] ja ons hoop maar dinge is weer rustig [05:40] ja dis n pein gewees gister [05:40] pyn [05:40] I'm always early man [05:41] * inetpro never sleeps [05:43] hahaha [05:44] ek wil die ding probeer maar dis nie vir 12.04 nie, sal moet leer om te backport of iets snaaks [05:44] http://davidplanella.org/ubuntu-emulator-quickstart-guide/ [05:48] what is that? [05:48] emulator [05:48] i want whatsapp on pc [05:49] cant find ubuntu-emulator-runtime for 12.04 [05:49] sigh [05:49] only source [05:50] Not sure what app will work on that yet [05:51] i thought all android stuff should be able to work if you know what you are doing [05:51] hehe [05:51] whatsapp needs a number [05:52] im not sure about the whole thing but ian will buy a sim card get whatsapp registration or something and give me the info [05:52] that is not an Android emulator, or did I miss something [05:52] oh and there is whatsapp for pidgin too but also needs the number [05:53] no its the ubuntu one [05:53] if the ubuntu touch can do whatsapp then it should work here with the emulater [05:53] anyway,. nothing wrong with trying [05:53] right or wrong? [05:54] ya better than watching bad stuffs [05:54] * inetpro has to go [05:54] yesterday was most distressing [05:54] go safe [05:54] have a nice peaceful day [05:55] danke [06:09] Kilos: Ubuntu Touch can't run WhatsApp [06:10] oh my, ty superfly [06:10] morning [06:10] hi [06:11] Ubuntu Touch cannot run Android apps [06:12] ah, i cant sort the android-sdk thing to work here so will try go with the pidgin route [06:12] Kilos: also, technically you'd be violating WhatsApp's terms and conditions [06:13] ill get a sim and register legally superfly [06:13] then use that on pidgin [06:34] wbb [06:57] Hi guys [06:57] hi Kilos [06:57] hi inetpro [06:57] hi Squirm [06:57] hi superfly [06:58] hi somaunn [07:00] what the topics here [07:00] linux stuff [07:00] hi adeebnqo [07:01] Kilos: hello [07:01] just did all of this http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts [07:17] Kilos: cool having a quick look at that [07:17] hi Private_User [07:18] hi Kilos [07:34] Kilos: you'll want to install something like VirtMgr which has a GUI. kvm is designed to run on a server, not a desktop. [07:43] aha ty superfly [07:44] virt-manager [08:57] superfly, you here? [08:57] sup [08:57] can i forward you a mail, i dont understand what it is all about, is it spam [08:57] hi Symmetria [08:58] Kilos [08:58] https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152016878155528&type=1&l=c906d5faa1 [08:58] check that out [08:58] africa at its finest [08:59] i dont go fb [08:59] well hardly ever [08:59] what is it? [08:59] heh thats just a photo album [08:59] its worth seeing [09:00] heh, photos I took in the last 48 hours [09:00] ok [09:00] they are worth seeing :) seriously [09:03] lol i kn ow what animals look like man [09:03] know [09:03] tv shows great animal clips [09:04] kilos heh, I took those all myself in the middle of the maasai mara [09:04] which is a place everyone should see once [09:04] truely amazing [09:08] you spend too much time galivanting and not enough working [09:08] but nice pics ya [09:09] lol thats only 5 hours drive from Nairobi [09:10] as i say too much time galivanting [09:11] ah superfly its scam [09:11] * Kilos installs sugarplum again [09:13] i googled fedexpostoffice101@163.com [10:20] good morning [10:20] hi charl [10:21] hi Kilos [10:21] how's it going [10:21] good ty and you? [10:22] i'm doing well [10:22] http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140124_usg_provides_first_official_statement_on_montevideo_brazil/ [10:23] american pilitics *puke* [10:24] Symmetria: nice photos! it reminds me of when i went to nairobi national park in 2011 [10:25] you can't believe there would be such a beautiful national park right next to one of the biggest cities [10:25] i particularly like the composure of this one: https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/q71/s720x720/1555492_10152016874160528_1300045619_n.jpg [10:30] hi Kilos [10:39] lol [10:39] yoyo [11:16] ho Golynx [11:17] Heya Kilos [12:18] hi Private_User psydroid [12:18] storm coming here [12:23] hi Kilos [12:29] hi Kilos, all [12:29] hi theblazehen [12:36] Kilos, how's it been going? [12:36] very good ty and you lad? [12:36] Going fine here. Didn't expect this much school work though, big step up from last year [12:37] what standard now? [12:37] 9 I think.. Grade 11 [12:37] or grades, im not sure what they call then anymore [12:37] ah 1 before highschool finished [12:37] hey Kilos [12:37] yeah.. [12:37] hey Private_User [12:38] Bit nervous about after school TBH [12:38] peeps used to say 9 was harder than matric but i dunno so much [12:38] hi theblazehen [12:38] TBH? [12:38] Kilos, That's what they also say no || To be honest [12:38] haha [12:39] s/no/now [12:40] just do your best [12:40] what more can one ask [12:40] yeah.. [12:42] just worried that "my best" < "good enough" [12:43] nope man, if you put lotsa effort in its always enough [12:43] do you do lotsa work on pcs in school nowadays [12:44] nope, just basic word + excel in school :( [12:44] oh so still books and written homework [12:45] yep [12:45] good, dont want you guys having things too easy [12:45] hehe [12:45] Not even allowed tech more advanced than calculator.. [12:45] yeah well then kids would be googling for answers [12:46] Well some teachers allow it, and internet at school is horrible. Can't even do reliable IRC [12:47] ai! [12:47] adsl? [12:48] pretty much. 1 mbit shared, over 1000 students + teachers [12:48] ouch [12:48] With a pretty crappy untangle filter [12:49] And the admin.. I wouldn't exactly call competent [12:49] my 3g seems more stable since setting up minicom [12:49] (I am able to access teacher files, due to incorrectly set permissions) [12:49] nice [12:49] or cutecom , i forget which one now [12:50] dont be naughty [12:50] Yeah, don't DO anything with it lol [12:50] Was just looking around [12:50] hehe [12:53] but you are lucky dude, we never even had a proper computer lab at school [12:54] Private_User, yeah. Computers pretty decent, 2GB RAM, 2.1 GHz dual core P4 [12:55] and we still had those old x86 machines, you know the one with 2 floppy drives [12:55] one for booting the other to run software [12:55] lol [12:55] 486 [12:55] remember those Kilos [12:56] thats what i started here with [12:56] ah, nice, depending on when it was [12:56] which year Private_User ? [12:56] about 6 or 7 years ago [12:56] hehe [12:56] more like 14years ago [12:56] no [12:57] started with what other peeps thew away [12:57] lol [12:57] 1 year before 8.04 [12:57] Decent 14 years ago.. [12:58] 6 years and some months [12:58] struggled with them old things [12:58] but learned lots [13:00] oh also remember an old pc about 20 years ago that ran from floppy [13:01] those 5 1/2 inch ones [13:01] but the kids played on that [13:03] yeah I remember when we bought our first computer it was a 286 [13:04] and playing those old 2D games [13:04] I wonder if we could still find some of them and whether we could get them to work on ubuntu... [13:05] lol [13:05] i have a 386 and a 486 that were working when they went to the storeroom [13:07] Private_User, only 486 or better will work [13:07] Kilos, linux on your 486 maybe? [13:08] i ran dos on them [13:08] and win 95 on the 486 [13:09] but they got me thinking again [13:09] Kilos, install gentoo on the 486 ;) Or ubuntu server / debian [13:14] i got a p3 i will use for a server one day [13:15] Kilos, will be a killer on the power... [13:15] hopefully [13:15] A Pi will probably be faster + less power [13:16] oh you mean electricity [13:16] Kilos, yeah.. [13:16] lol [13:17] no money for toys man, just spent 2 years savings to but a lga1155 mobo cpu ram and psu [13:17] now to start saving again for better cpu [13:17] Kilos, ah, that sucks.. Can you sell components? [13:18] what components [13:18] eg. RAM [13:18] some places might need the old ram, etc. [13:18] for what pc [13:18] the P3 [13:19] i took that sdr ram for my p4 [13:19] Old components are rare, and SOMEONE will have something important which only runs on old pc [13:19] ah [13:20] my p4 is an early version that uses the sdr ram so moved it from p3 to p4 [13:20] now boet in law playing games on it [13:21] ram is always expensive hey? i paid big bucks for that old ram [13:21] just got 4g ddr3 for about the same as i paid for 640m sdr [13:22] Kilos, got 16Gb for under R700 [13:22] wow [13:23] i just paid 450 about for 4g [13:23] Yeah, I got 2nd hand some of it [13:23] friends were rebuilding PC's [13:24] ah [13:26] Used to run up to 14 VM's on it :) [13:26] wow [13:28] hi hekkwan [13:32] howdy [13:38] Greetings [13:38] You guys know of any Web Devs in Gauteng? [13:39] hi Xethron [13:39] ask tonight when there are more peeps here [13:39] and even ask on the mailing list [13:40] Xethron, what do you need done? [13:40] lots of jhb peeps dont come here but use the lists [13:40] I have a job opening for one [13:40] Xethron, ah [13:41] Looking for someone who knows PHP, MySQL, MVC, JS, jQuery, and all the rest [13:41] theblazehen: you interested? [13:42] Hehe, I just know enough of the 1st 2 to get by [13:42] haha [13:42] Besides still in HS, so can't get a job [13:42] Only freelance at best [13:42] HS? [13:42] High School [13:42] ah [13:42] I see [13:43] You want to study Programming? [13:43] Xethron, more heading in the sysadmin direction [13:43] bleh [13:43] one of those [13:43] hehe, why? [13:43] :P [13:43] Just curious [13:44] Meant why the "bleh" [13:44] If you ever need help with PHP or something, gimme a shout [13:44] Sure, thanks [13:44] Sysadmins are... Sysadmins... [13:45] Xethron, lol || Pretty decent with PHP +| MySQL, just can't do frontend stuff [13:45] Used MVC before? [13:46] Xethron, nope.. [13:46] Download Laravel ( www.laravel.com ) and make sure it becomes your best friend [13:46] kk, ty [13:46] Its a MVC PHP Framework... [13:47] Which drastically increases productivity [13:47] ty [13:47] :) [13:47] Xethron, have you joined our mailing list [13:47] tl;dr MVC vs vanilla PHP? [13:47] Doubt it Kilos [13:49] theblazehen: Model, Views, Controller. Models are objects from your database (like a user model), views are the stuff that make your site pretty, and Controllers is the place you put all your code [13:49] Xethron, ah, ty [13:49] Its a way to seperate your code so that it becomes more managable... [13:50] Hmm, would you use it for small projects as well? [13:50] Talking less than 200 lines with everything [13:51] http://i.imgur.com/ocWDwcU.jpg ... :/ [13:52] lol [13:53] theblazehen: well, if its a "project", yes, I would do it in Laravel. Laravel is very easy to setup and start using [13:54] But 200 lines sounds like halve of one of my classes :P [13:54] hehe, kk [13:55] Are you aware of bitcoin? [13:55] yeah [13:55] who isn't [13:55] Well I'm quite involved with an "altcoin", and wrote the faucet script [13:57] ah, ok [13:58] Well, if its something that will later expand, and won't only stay at 200 lines, yeah, try it in Laravel instead... Then it will be easy to make changes later [14:03] Soooo, this went slightly off topic :P [14:04] hehe [14:04] Hi everyone [14:04] hi Golynx [14:04] Xethron, kk, ty [14:04] job in jhb if you interested [14:05] Xethron, looking for a web dev [14:05] Golynx, hi. Lol, read logs, trender was a dick yesterday... [14:05] Anyone know of a code editor that has a tag closing highlight feature ? [14:05] Golynx, vim? [14:05] Golynx: what you mean? [14:06] I cant find any Code editor in ubuntu that does that [14:06] Golynx, sublime text? [14:06] Pretty sure my vim does it, and ST did it if I understood you right [14:06] Xethron, thats what Golynx does [14:06] but he is far away [14:07] Hey theblazehen, yeah he was. He got all cry baby in my pm's after we had a fight lol [14:07] I hav'nt tried Vim yet [14:07] Golynx, vim is awesome [14:07] high learning curve however [14:07] lol [14:08] Just gedit, geany, sublime , and such [14:08] Golynx, if you get vim, get this too: https://github.com/spf13/spf13-vim [14:08] Is Vim not just a command line interface ? [14:08] jup [14:08] Golynx, yeah [14:08] unless you get gvim [14:08] so you have to learn all the shortcuts [14:09] theblazehen: no point in getting gvim [14:09] Hmm, i want a GUI editor though , i click alot lol [14:09] if you get gvim, use sublime [14:09] Xethron, yeah, agreed [14:09] Golynx: I'm not sure what it is you need? [14:09] Golynx: highlight unclosed tags? [14:09] Xethron, has a menu though, for beginners [14:10] I want a code editor similar to notepad++ in windows , but i cant use wine in ubuntu, not enough ram [14:10] Yes Xethron [14:10] Golynx: use Sublime [14:10] What do you do? [14:11] The only feature missing from the editors i tried is the , tag close highlighter [14:11] Xethron, Golynx just switched to ubuntu from win 2 weeks ago [14:11] Sublime works great for most programming editors [14:11] Web development [14:11] Golynx: Sublime is filled with Plugins [14:12] I'm not sure what you mean by tag close highlighter though? [14:12] Need to easilly see my closing tags in html and js [14:12] umm [14:12] So, if you select the opening tag, eg, , you want it to highlight the tag? [14:13] I know but i cant find a plugin Xethron. People say to compile one myself lol [14:13] Yes perfect Xethron [14:13] oh, mine does that [14:13] umm [14:13] lemme get the plugin name for you [14:13] ok cool [14:14] Golynx: I have too many plugins :P [14:14] but I think its BracketHighlighter [14:16] Ok thanks Xethron i will try that one :) [14:17] Golynx: once you learn vim you'll never want another editor [14:20] I will try that inetpro thanks. But dunno if i need a command line editor for gui apps though [14:21] inetpro, ++ [14:21] inetpro: He recently switched to Ubuntu... Give him a year or two on Linux before pushing him to vim :P [14:21] inetpro, Just discovered the beauty of vim a week or so ago [14:24] When I only transfer 3 GB of data in 3 hours... [14:25] haha yeah, i'm still a baby in linux :D [14:26] Golynx, why not try archlinux.org? It's what I use.. /s [14:29] theblazehen can i use archlinux as a desktop environment ontop of unity [14:30] Golynx, arch is a completely different linux distro. You can install unity inside of arch, however you only start with a terminal [14:30] But in all seriousness if you REALLY wanna learn, try and get it installed in a VM [14:31] Learnt more in a day with arch than a month with Ubuntu [14:32] theblazehen, dont mess with him now man [14:32] he has xubuntu workin [14:32] Kilos, ok... lol :) [14:32] arch is too involved to star off wioth [14:32] with [14:32] yeah [14:32] start [14:32] whew [14:32] 528MB for the arch iso hmm :/ [14:33] Golynx, yep, but it's x86_64 + x86 [14:33] Got my arch based thin client installed in less than 1 GB of space [14:34] But internet caps suck, I agree.. [14:34] theblazehen ty , but i think i will stick with xfce-desktop for now , until i got a few pc's to mess around with :) [14:34] Golynx, yeah, stick with that untill you know a little more :) [14:36] * Golynx is getting sucked in by the all powerful linux world lol [14:37] Golynx, good man :) [14:46] wbb, gotta pinch a drive outa here [14:50] you can't install arch in a vm, it doesn't have any of the right drivers and it's completely useless. [14:50] there are better things to do with life than install arch [14:56] hahahaha ! [14:56] this is hilarious [15:16] wb Kilos [15:16] ty charl [15:16] hey charl [15:16] hi Golynx [15:16] Wb Kilos [15:17] ty [15:18] how's it going with you all [15:18] charl, you clever and got good internet [15:18] lol [15:19] what do you need? [15:19] Good and you charl [15:19] i'm just taking a break now, i'm busy cleaning my apartment [15:19] i'm doing well Golynx, just a bit exhausted right now :) [15:19] i need the pin connections on a ecs p45t-a mobo for the front panel and on/off button [15:19] the what?! :) [15:20] oh a taiwanese motherboard? [15:20] i hunted there by ecs site but i dont find where they so over there on the mobo is pin and 2 and you connect such and such there [15:20] chinese i think [15:21] i havent bothered to check the psu because i just took it out the box [15:21] brandy noob [15:22] so you need to know where to connect the power button to? [15:22] the pins on the motherboard ... [15:22] i hate these mod mobos that you push on button and mobo turns psu on [15:22] Ah good charl [15:22] yes please [15:23] oh mobo = motherboard [15:23] i'm already putting the puzzle together :) [15:23] i found a row of 9 bins in bouble row but dunno which is which and what they for [15:23] ya [15:24] shorter to type man [15:24] m/b [15:24] is that better [15:24] ok i found it [15:24]