JuJuBeehitsujiTMO: How else can I burn the ISO to USB?00:00
hitsujiTMOJuJuBee: dd00:00
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Vivekanandaanyone care to comment on my problem my firefox version is 25 and ubuntu 12.0400:02
AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO,  "Unable to locate package ubuntu-release-upgrader-core"00:03
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hitsujiTMO!info ubuntu-release-upgrader-core00:06
ubottuubuntu-release-upgrader-core (source: ubuntu-release-upgrader): manage release upgrades. In component main, is standard. Version 1:0.205.4 (saucy), package size 23 kB, installed size 308 kB00:06
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hitsujiTMO!info ubuntu-release-upgrader-core precise00:06
vitehow much ram does the mini.iso use once installed and running?00:06
ubottuPackage ubuntu-release-upgrader-core does not exist in precise00:06
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hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: that file doesn't exist in 12.04 it seems00:06
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hitsujiTMOvite: depends on what you install00:06
AHemlocksLieThe Ubuntu site says to install update-manager-core, and then run do-release-update, but do-release-update doesn't work00:07
viteif it was just the base system and nothing more00:07
AHemlocksLieer, do-release-upgrade. Says command not found00:07
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hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: sudo do-release-upgrade00:07
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AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, nope, no good00:08
hitsujiTMOvite: a minimal system will use about 50-80mb depending on which release iirc00:08
hitsujiTMO!find /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade precise00:09
AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, speaking of minimals, would that matter?00:09
ubottuFile /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade found in update-manager-core00:09
AHemlocksLieBecause this is a minimal install00:09
hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: you should just need to install update-manager-core00:09
AHemlocksLieI just tried to reinstall it when you suggested reinstalling that other package, but it didn't help00:10
glitsj16Vivekananda: do you use a non-default theme with firefox by any chance? i saw the same issue a while back and it turned out to be caused by a theme that wasn't updated for recent firefox versions00:10
hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: whats the output of: which do-release-upgrade00:10
AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, no output at all00:11
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DrGrovHello hello00:11
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Vivekanandaglitsj16: yep but I am currently testing by disablign all the add ons and restarting firefox and that works fine00:12
diagnostics247Hello, I am trying to install canon drivers and got this after running the install.sh "An error occurred. The package management system cannot be identified."00:12
hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo apt-get -s purge --yes update-manager-core | pastebinit00:12
DureikenhitsujiTMO : is that normal than on a fresh install of ubuntu my home folder is 1.4G/1.4G ?? nothing installed00:13
pejman_im pejman00:13
pejman_im have trouble00:13
pejman_no surround sound on ubuntu00:13
pejman_i use a HDMI output00:13
hitsujiTMODureiken: whats the output of: df -h00:13
AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, pastebinit uses an API that claims to be disabled00:14
secondpejman_ ati card?00:14
hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo apt-get -s purge --yes update-manager-core | pastebinit -b https://paste.ubuntu.com00:14
secondi never managed to get surround through ati hdmi00:14
pejman_second: yes00:14
glitsj16Vivekananda: to confirm the issue is with the theme, you could enable all add-ons again and see if the default theme works with those installed00:15
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DureikenhitsujiTMO : I sent you in PM not to pollute channel00:15
AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (https://paste.ubuntu.com)00:15
hitsujiTMODureiken: i can't see pms. sudo apt-get -s purge --yes update-manager-core | pastebinit -b https://paste.ubuntu.com00:15
hitsujiTMODureiken: i can't see pms. sudo apt-get -s purge --yes update-manager-core | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com00:15
Vivekanandaglitsj16: I just reset firefox and now the thing is working00:15
hitsujiTMOdoh. without the s00:16
VivekanandaI am not sure what got corrected on doing the reset00:16
glitsj16Vivekananda: weel sometimes magic is the best way to fix things00:16
pejman_second: I got th ATI radeon HD 557000:16
Vivekanandalol sure it is00:16
hitsujiTMODureiken: sorry: i can't see pms. df -h | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com00:17
hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo apt-get -s purge --yes update-manager-core | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com00:17
hitsujiTMODureiken: sudo du -hd1 /home00:18
Vivekanandaglitsj16: there is another thing that is getting messed up in ubuntu. Normally I could move windows around by right click --> send to workspace 2 or something like this. this worked in the previous lts But for the current one when I do this the window just gets lost00:18
Vivekanandais this is a CCSM issue or something else00:18
AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811487/00:18
pejman_Is it possible to enable a digital output for HDMI00:19
pejman_i mean 5.1 digital sound output00:19
mikeadamsanyone have a system76 starling netbook?00:19
pejman_cause i have the option on analog but not on digital00:20
glitsj16Vivekananda: might be ccsm yes, i'd check what you have there for 'Desktop Size' in the 'General Options' .. you do have a 2nd workspace?00:20
hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: so you've installed gnome too?00:20
alazyworkaholicFast user account switching fails very often to an unresponsive black screen & flashing cursor. How can I figure out what the problem is?00:21
hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: sudo apt-get purge --yes update-manager-core && sudo apt-get install update-manager-core update-manager-gnome00:21
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AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, I didn't intentionally, but if it was a dependency, it would've been installed. Kinda useless to me on a server00:21
Vivekanandawhere is general options ?00:21
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glitsj16Vivekananda: should be in the top section, or if you choose General in the sidebar it should be there as well00:22
glitsj16Vivekananda: in ccsm00:23
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AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, they seemed to install okay, but I still don't get do-release-upgrade00:23
hitsujiTMODureiken: sudo du -hd1 /home/mineur00:23
DureikenI think it was catalyst driver install00:23
Dureiken600M/1.4G after reboot00:23
hitsujiTMODureiken: ahh that could do it00:24
hitsujiTMOAHemlocksLie: out of ideas then. i'd expect it to be related to the gnome stuff tho00:25
DureikenhitsujiTMO : I tested imageUSB on windows and it worked for cloning ubuntu usb key :)00:25
AHemlocksLiehitsujiTMO, I appreciate you trying. I'll see if I can dig something up, but it's not going well so far...00:25
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sudormrfcan anyone in here help me out with some cron job stuff?00:27
mojtabaHi, Is the next release LT?00:31
glitsj16mojtaba: yes, in april 14.04 will be the next LTS00:32
mojtabaglitsj16: Is the LTS the most stable version?00:32
basiclaserhey guys00:32
TaiSHiQuestion: package python3-pkg-resources requires pip 1.5 but python3-pip is 1.4.100:32
basiclaserhow can i prepare an iso on an external HDD for boot?00:32
TaiSHiHow do I fix that?00:33
glitsj16mojtaba: yes00:33
mojtabaglitsj16: I will stick to that release.00:33
glitsj16sudormrf: what is the issue exactly with the cron job?00:33
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sudormrfglitsj16, actually I think it may be with syntax00:35
glitsj16sudormrf: could very well be, also use full paths00:35
TaiSHiI've tried installing web version of pip but wont work00:37
glitsj16sudormrf: does the cron job work when ran from terminal? that should be the easiest way to see if syntax is involved .. once you have it working in terminal and use full paths there's a very good chance the cronjob will start working00:38
sudormrfglitsj16, actually it may be with rsync.  just to verify the basic syntax would be like rsync /location/of/files/to/copy /copy/destination00:38
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sudormrfglitsj16, I fixed it.00:41
glitsj16sudormrf: nice, one less thing :)00:41
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alazyworkaholicFast user account switching fails very often to an unresponsive black screen & flashing cursor. How can I figure out what the problem is?00:44
sudormrfglitsj16, I think it's all sorted now.00:45
Guest97738Hi, so I have netflix running good on Ubuntu 12.04, and I'm using User Agent overriders for both of my browsers into spoofing netflix into thinking I'm windows. These overriders are always in the top right hand corner of both my browsers, firefox and chrome. My question is, do these make my browsers turn into windows in all that I do online? I mean, will I get outside bugs like windows can get by having these agent overriders there?00:45
underscore13.10 rocks!00:46
glitsj16basiclaser: same way as preparing an iso on a DVD or on a USB stick --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick00:46
vidaloca.msg vidaloca test00:48
yoursHey guys i am new to useing Xbuntu laptop can someone help me with my problem??00:50
daftykinsyours: ask a question00:51
yoursEverytime i try to download something it asks for a password but i dont know the password??00:51
yoursWhat do i do to change the password??00:51
underscoreCtrl + t00:52
underscoreold password00:53
underscorenew twice00:53
glitsj16Guest97738: look for a user-agent spoofing add-on that you can configure for specific sites, that way your general browsing experience should be the least affected00:54
underscoreif you don't know the old pwd it different00:54
reymansudo passwd "yours user"00:54
underscoreold but should work00:55
Guest97738glitsj16, so I only want them to watch netflix. So, should I go get the user-agent spoofer add-on every time to watch it, so that I don't have to have it on every site? Do you know a work around that?00:56
mikubuntuugh. i installd lub 13.04 from disk, and then took the offered version upgrade to 13.10 -- during the upgrade i noted that there was a message about some part of the installation being broken, and i might want to run "gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders etc..." -- sure enough at the end of the upgrade the box hung up on boot at splash screen, so i pulled up the term and ran the command from the install term. permission denied. any ideas where00:56
Guest97738sorry, there are only one or two that really work.00:57
Guest97738-that work to watch netflix, I mean for each browser.00:58
glitsj16Guest97738: you can keep the add-on installed all the time if it is capable of setting it up to only spoof your user-agent on netflix .. i don't know what browsers you use but there should be several that offer that option00:58
Guest97738hummm I didn't know that. O.k. I'll look into that. thanks!00:58
glitsj16Guest97738: no trouble00:59
Guest97738I have another question. I know Ubuntu 12.04 is a great LTS distro, but some people are raving about 13.10. It only last about 6 mo. right? Why is it so good when we have to go and get 14.04 LTS pretty soon?01:00
Guest97738I mean, is it worth it to get and have to set up another one so soon?01:00
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glitsj16Guest97738: i would wait for the 14.04, but that's me01:01
SirwinHello, i have issues with sound on alsa-mixer but my sound in general is working01:01
underscorebackup your /etc/ and you home conf01:01
Guest97738ya, I think so too. thanks again01:01
underscoreand your package list01:02
fabio123hi, just wondering which one  is faster uxa vs sna01:02
fabio123because with my intel hd uxa seems faster01:02
underscoredpkg --get-selections01:02
underscore> package_file.txt01:03
underscoredpkg --set-selections < package_file.txt01:03
glitsj16mikubuntu: did you try running the command with sudo? if you see an error mentioning permission denied that's usually the issue ..01:03
shovel_bossdoes amd work on ubuntu01:04
shovel_bossdebian fucks up with catalyst01:04
Sirwinis there issues with alsa-mixer thats on HDMI output?01:04
mikubuntuglitsj16: dOH! ok, will try again with sudo.01:06
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Sirwinis anyone experienced with audio issues on Ubuntu 13.10?01:07
glitsj16Sirwin: there's bound to be issues with any package, you can do a search on reported bugs at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs .. use the correct package name though, are you refering to alsamixergui?01:08
Sirwinglitsj16: my sound in general works except for in browsers01:08
Sirwini output to HDMI01:08
Sirwinim not sure why but I think thats the issue with the alsa mixer01:09
mikubuntuglitsj16: no, still permission denied01:09
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mikubuntuglitsj16: or is it an apt-get? so sudo apt-get gdk ... etc?01:10
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yours_Is this Xbuntu help line??01:12
Sirwinhow do I install flash?01:13
glitsj16mikubuntu: just checked, libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev seems to hold that gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders command, so you could try .. sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev *then* try the command again01:13
bekks!flash | Sirwin01:13
ubottuSirwin: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash01:13
glitsj16mikubuntu: i could run that without sudo, not familiar with it though01:14
yours_Hey how do i finde out my password for softwer center on Xbuntu01:15
dnrhi all, I'm running into this bug with 13.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/106637601:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 1238194 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Saucy) "keyboard doesn't work to enter password with encrypted partitions ubuntu 13.10 saucy" [Critical,Fix released]01:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 1066376 in base-installer (Ubuntu Precise) "keyboard doesn't work to enter password with panda and encrypted partitions ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:15
dnri can boot into an old 3.5.0 kernel (leftover from 12.10), but any newer kernel doesn't work (and i've tried at least six assorted ones from the mainline ppa)01:15
dnri'd like to upgrade to 13.10, but i'm worried that will break things even more01:16
impossiblewhat does "-y"01:16
dnri've also tried all the workarounds mentioned on those bug threads, and none worked for me01:17
bekksimpossible: Depends on the command.01:17
dnrdoes anyone have any experience with that situation?01:18
impossiblebekks, like sudo apt-get install empathy -y?01:18
bekksimpossible: For apt-get, "man apt-get" describes what -y will do.01:18
impossiblebekks, THanks!01:20
impossiblemanuall is awesome01:20
mikubuntuglitsj16: i think i'm just going to reinstall 04. is 04 the last one before unity was added?01:21
mikubuntuhate unity01:21
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secondunity is not that bad once you stop comparing it to gnome 201:25
glitsj16mikubuntu: you can always opt to install another DE instead of unity01:25
RaptorJesusunity is clunky01:26
RaptorJesusand slow01:26
RaptorJesuslike downs syndrome slow01:26
secondwell, i change my pc every year or 2 so i havent noticed any speed issue01:27
secondbut maybe on older pc's its heavy01:28
mikubuntuglitsj16: yes, i know, just tired of wrestling. lol. say i wonder why i couldn't install ubuntu studio desktop packages into a lubuntu machine -- is there some impediment, or is the impediment me?01:28
secondstill i dont find it bad01:28
mikubuntui just think unity is ugly and unintuitive01:28
glitsj16mikubuntu: there's a meta-package called ubuntustudio-desktop that will pull in all packages, should be available on lubuntu too, not sure but easily checked01:30
sheilajjoin #drupal-pnw01:32
mikubuntuglitsj16: wondering with the following lspci if i should install a 64 bit or 32 bit on this box01:32
mikubuntuglitsj16: sorry -- http://pastebin.com/uFtJZYqX01:32
inkayAll my linux  niggaz say yweeaa01:34
inkayNo real niggaz in here then01:35
glitsj16mikubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit has instructions on how to check capability of your CPU .. lspci is not good to determine that01:36
zatanhey how can I get GPG key ? W: GPG error: http://ftp.uk.debian.org wheezy-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available01:36
inkayYall be some cracker ass honky windows whiteboys01:36
mikubuntuglitsj16: k, lemme look01:37
inkay*breaks opena f01:37
glitsj16mikubuntu: if you can go 64bit, go for it .. these days you can run 32bit apps on a 64bit ubuntu without problems, not the other way around01:38
glitsj16zatan: are you using a debian repo on ubuntu?01:39
zatanglitsj16, its looks that digitalocean01:40
mikubuntuglitsj16: i'm still confused after reading the page -- the box is an hp dv7 4273 with amd ultimate vision cpu i guess -- would you say go 64?01:41
mikubuntuglitsj16: not sure if its post '08, i got it at garage sale last saturday01:42
glitsj16mikubuntu: what is the output of grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo ?01:42
mikubuntuglitsj16: lemme see01:43
glitsj16mikubuntu: if you see 'lm' in red your good to go 64bit, if not .. 32bit01:43
glitsj16zatan: digitalocean cloud hosting?01:43
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zatanglitsj16, yep seems that I have managed to fix cheers01:44
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Guest44308Hi, guys, so I have netflix working good on a laptop with ubuntu 12.04, but working terrible on a desktop with Ubuntu 12.04. What would make the netflix be choppy in pic and sound on that older desktop with netflix?01:45
SeaSkithe video card/driver01:46
Guest44308o.k. so is that fixable, me of no computer smarts?01:46
SeaSkioh yes01:46
SeaSkii usually get my cards off craigslist, if its the driver look on /software and drivers n check to see if you have proprietary driver or xorg driver01:47
SeaSkiits probably using onboard video01:48
Guest44308and me of no linux smarts, where do you go look for that, in the folder?01:48
LaireHello I try to install proftpd, with virtual users, but I can't connect. I get this error in the log file: error: unable to open passwd file '/etc/proftpd/ftpd.passwd': Permission denied01:49
Guest44308so desktops are different than laptops with the video drivers, obviously.  umm01:50
mikubuntuglitsj16: yes 'lm' in red several times01:52
glitsj16mikubuntu: nice, the garage sale presented you with a 64bit capable system, go for it01:53
Guest44308how do I see if I have proprietary driver or xorg driver?01:53
Guest44308on Ubuntu 12.0401:53
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mikubuntuglitsj16: ok, so i guess i should start with an ubuntu 13.10 64 bit install, and then add LXDE options and UbuntuStudio packages after?01:54
tonytwhy not just install ubuntustudio to begin with01:55
cappicardtime to upgrade virtual box. :)01:56
glitsj16mikubuntu: tonyt has a point01:57
tonytthats what i would do :)01:59
NastyNazwhat's the easiest way to clone a partition from one usb drive to another?01:59
KornyAnyone good with getting disks to spin down in ubuntu?  I'm trying to get an empty drive to spin down, I forced it to spindown with hdparm -y yet it wakes up randomly, the disk is brand new to the system so no applications should be writing to it02:00
bekksKorny: Forcing spindowns will heavily lower lifetime of the disk.02:00
bekksI do recommend to not spin down disks at all.02:00
Kornybekks most disks are rated for 200,000 + spin downs02:01
bekksLOL, thats a lie, honestly.02:01
bekks200.000 spindowns with 180.000h MTBF would mean that you spin down your disk more than once in an hour.02:01
KornyI'm looking a 2-3 hour idle time before spin down, its a media server that can go days inbetween a disk getting accessed02:01
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LaireHello I try to install proftpd, with virtual users, but I can't connect. I get this error in the log file: error: unable to open passwd file '/etc/proftpd/ftpd.passwd': Permission denied. when I change with chmod to 644 i get the error  mod_auth_file/1.0: unable to use world-readable AuthUserFile '/etc/proftpd/ftpd.passwd': Operation not permitted02:03
dunpealHi. I'm trying to boot a new Ubuntu installation, but it fails. I suspect that is because the UEFI is looking for sda1/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi, while sda1/EFI is currently an empty directory.02:05
dunpealHow do I address that?02:05
markovircHello dunpeal02:05
markovircHello dunpeal02:05
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tonyti disabled uefi in my bioos dunpeal02:05
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Guest93930salut a tous02:06
tonytalso got rid of gpt . no reason for it . why anyone would want to mkae more than 4 partitions on one drive is beyond me :)02:06
Guest93930salut a tous ... je cherche quelqu'un qui pourrais me guider sur linux02:07
wahibdonauto login in Xfce, how do I do it?  editing /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf to add my username to autologin-user and setting autologin-user-timeout to 0 and uncommenting both line does not work.02:08
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dunpealHow do I install Ubuntu in Legacy mode02:13
bekksdunpeal: go into your bios, disable uefi.02:13
mikubuntuglitsj16: ok, so i need to find 64 bit download of ubuntustudio02:19
mikubuntuglitsj16: and start over again .. lol02:19
unreal-dudei am having an issue with ccsm and window snap where the title bars are taking up additional space under the top bar. anyone know off hand if this can be fixed?02:20
glitsj16mikubuntu: well, see it as good practice ;)02:21
lindgrenj6ok so i have an issue, I'm running the gnome desktop environment and basically every time i boot all i get is a black flashing cursor, then i reboot using alt+shift+f2 and then the login screen shows fine. Any way to fix this?02:21
markovircHello zedzdead02:22
zedzdeadI always end up coming back to xubuntu :P02:23
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zedzdeadSeeing as my manjaro install broke02:23
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mikubuntuglitsj16: i was being lazy today i guess. the laptop wouldn't charge and i din't know if it was the internal connection to the motherboard or the charger itself. i searched ebay and found a replacement charger for $12, but there is a local batteries plus franchise that said they would test the charger i have -- so i went there, and after testing, they said my charger was bad, and they had a replacement for $60. but i din't have $6002:24
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zedzdeadSo what did you do?02:24
mikubuntuglitsj16: the $12 one. then i went thru my box of old bricks, and found a dell charger with nearly the same specs, 19.5 volts and 90 watts, instead of 19 volts and 90 watts, and its working off of it. hope the extra .5  volts won't get me in trouble, but i want to get the machine working.02:26
zedzdeadA few volts never hurt anyone ;)02:26
unreal-dudeonly gonna heat up something by a few milli degrees02:27
mikubuntuunreal-dude: its definitely running a little hot -- might be clogged up with dust also, gotta find a can of air tomorrow02:28
glitsj16mikubuntu: there's #hardware, they should be able to give you good advise02:28
zedzdeadmikubuntu you may want to look into getting air compressors, so you dont have to keep buying cans. compressors will save you money in the long run02:28
mikubuntunow i see ubuntustudio is going to have to go on a usb stick it's 2gb -- i hope that box will boot from usb -- it must, right?02:29
mikubuntuzedzdead: i din't know you could use a compressor thought the air had to be 'purified' or something .. lol .. are you talking about a little compressor you buy at the drugstore?02:30
glitsj16mikubuntu: in case the BIOS doesn't support it, look for something called PloP boot manager, that can boot from CD drive and hand-off the rest to USB02:31
unreal-dudeid be careful with comressors, they can get condensed water vapor02:31
mikubuntuzedzdead: unreal-dude yes, i knew i had heard something about using compressors02:32
mikubuntubut the damn cans of air are EXPENSIVE02:32
wahibdona compressor should have a bleeder to get the condensation out.02:33
mikubuntuglitsj16: plop boot mgr -- but how will i burn the iso part to the disk?02:33
glitsj16mikubuntu: let's hope it isn't needed, i just threw it in in case it doesn't .. the iso has to be on the USB, plop will need to be burned to disk02:34
mikubuntuglitsj16: ok, going to look at the bios now02:35
glitsj16so you can follow the same instructions on how to get the ubuntustudio iso onto a USB stick02:35
mikubuntuglitsj16: yes was goint to unet ustudio onto a stick, gotta find out if thats viable02:36
glitsj16mikubuntu: that should work yes02:37
mikubuntuglitsj16: this is not a very old box -- i can't believe it but the boot sequence options only include cd-rom, floppy (floppy?), and internal network adapter boot02:39
mikubuntutime to look for plop02:41
glitsj16mikubuntu: http://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux/index.html02:41
hurockquestion here: when I plug my netbook to my TV with a VGA cable, is it the CPU (integrated graphics) or the TV, that processes the video?02:42
unreal-dudeanything that comes out a vga, dvi, hdmi, rca w/e cable is only displayed by the tv02:43
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guest__________I want to create a script that automatically downloads select applications from the Ubuntu Software Center and their respective updates.  This is for a new Linux install on a friends laptop.02:44
glitsj16mikubuntu: you could use the option 8 --> boot from iso, no need to burn anything in that case02:44
guest__________Where can I go to learn how to create this script?02:44
RaptorJesusanyone here use open-mesh.com?02:44
unreal-dudeapt-get install -y software packages by name seperated by spaces02:45
hurockunreal-dude: ok, so it puts less stress on the CPU then?02:45
glitsj16hurock: your GPU will do the heavy lifting, the TV is just seen as another monitor02:45
unreal-dudeyou should probably do an apt-get update first02:45
unreal-dudeno hurock, its already processed on the machine02:46
blockyanybody here running 14.04 alpha?02:47
hurockok, well, because I read that my netbook wouldn't be powerful enough to display 720p video, but I had no problem doing so while plugged to my TV02:47
UmeaboyI'm trying to find a .deb of the deprecated project called rootstock.02:47
UmeaboyWhere might that be?02:47
UmeaboyI've looked at launchpad.net02:48
mikubuntuglitsj16: omg, i think that's getting over my head -- think i'll just download the 64 bit ubuntu in 11 mins when the studio dl is complete -- then i'll just add the packages. at least i know that path, even if its a longer way around.02:48
UmeaboyNot using Ubuntu and I want to port this to my dist.02:48
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guest__________unreal-dude - what does the "-y" do?02:49
guest__________I tried searching on Google of the command but no go.02:50
unreal-dudetells it to answer yes to the question of whether to install, it assumes you know what you just asked it to install02:50
UmeaboyI think --auto would assume yes as well.02:51
glitsj16mikubuntu: not a bad idea, these GRUB things can get messy, and taking the long way home using familiar ground is a good idea actually02:51
africanNeed a UX/UI person to help me out. Can throw a crypto tip as good will :) Shoot me a PM02:51
SomeDamnBodywhat is the equivalent of windows C:\Python27\include for linux?02:51
unreal-dudeman apt-get shows '-y --yes --assume-yes' automatic yes to prompts02:51
SomeDamnBodyas well as C:\Python27\DLLs\?02:52
glitsj16mikubuntu: wait, didn't you say your machine doesn't support booting from USB?02:53
unreal-dudei would expect that to be /usr/lib/python2.7/02:54
jeffrey_fAlready asked at #vbox and waiting.   In virtual box, how do I make a physical USB port a virtual COMx port?02:54
RaptorJesusHey does anyone know if it's possible to block bittorrent with a dd-wrt router?02:55
Kornyunder access restrictions02:57
Umeaboyjeffrey_f: dkms solves alot. ;)02:57
Kornyblocked services02:57
SomeDamnBodyunreal-dude, that's not exactly right...02:58
SomeDamnBodyI need the exact shared object.02:58
SomeDamnBodyI can't find a python.so for the life of me...02:58
jeffrey_fUmeaboy: Please elaborate.02:58
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zedzdeadHello I have a quick question. Is anyone here able to answer?03:00
kostkon!anyone | zedzdead03:00
ubottuzedzdead: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.03:00
unreal-dudeSomeDamnBody im seeing the .so's in /usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/03:01
SomeDamnBodyah ok03:01
SomeDamnBodythanks... maybe that's it03:01
zedzdeadVery well. When I type the command "sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig" It returns that it cannot find the package. What do?03:01
mikubuntuglitsj16: yeah, but i'm03:01
SomeDamnBodyunreal-dude, that's definitely not it03:01
SomeDamnBodythat's got to be internal to python by the looks of the names03:02
Umeaboyjeffrey_f: You wanted to emulate the USB-port, right? :)03:02
UmeaboyCheck if dkms-vboxadditions is installed.03:02
jeffrey_fUmeaboy: want my physical USB port to be a COMx port in vbox03:03
NareikI'm trying to run linux through a USB drive on my older laptop and keep getting "could not mount /dev/loop0" which seems to be a common problem from using the CD/DVD disk..However i'm using a usb stick. Following the ubuntu website i used 'http://www.pendrivelinux.com' to make a usb installer. Are there any better ways to create this usb installer to fix this issue that anyone knows?03:03
UmeaboyIt might be named something else on Ubuntu.03:03
mikubuntuglitsj16: yeah, but i'm going to copy to a stick for use on other machines -- planning to go to costa rica as soon as i get a cheap flight, and i always do some rescues down there03:03
jeffrey_fUmeaboy: Yes it is03:03
UmeaboyHmmmmmmm. I think you should Google.03:03
mikubuntuglitsj16: from microsux03:03
zedzdeadE: Unable to locate package nvidia-xconfig03:03
jeffrey_fUmeaboy: doing that03:04
glitsj16mikubuntu: ow okay, just lost track a bit while exchanging ideas03:04
Umeaboyjeffrey_f: Might THIS be of any use? http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F5347962%2Fhow-to-connect-to-a-terminal-to-serial-usb-device-on-ubuntu-10-10&ei=rCnjUqTKFKuMyQO714CgAw&usg=AFQjCNG3pHqBjb6W7aldqzsPnU-upv_A5Q&sig2=b4ozQAk1jAMYJHPjkE6F4Q03:04
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UmeaboyNarik: Boot your computer using Gparted live-version (with another USB-key or a CD) & then empty it.03:06
UmeaboyFormat it to fat32. ;)03:06
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NareikI will look into that03:07
glitsj16zedzdead: nvidia-xconfig is a command, not an installable package as you found out .. what card do you have exactly? and on what version of ubuntu are you? (you can use .. lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A 2 .. to find out quickly)03:07
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NareikThank you03:07
UmeaboyNareik: Your welcome.03:08
zedzdeadglits I was able to do sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig while on mint 16 so why not ubuntu? My gard is a GTX 770 and I installed the nvidia-304 drivers via synaptic. I have also blacklisted noveau in the blacklist.conf file.  However I am still worried that when I reboot I will get the dreaded black screen.03:08
lotuspsychjemorning to all03:09
glitsj16zedzdead: i was able to run like lightning when i was 10, now it doesn't run that way anymore :) .. mint != ubuntu03:09
JuJuBeeI did  a fresh install earlier and could not get software-center to open.  SO, I re-downloaded 13.10 64bit and just completed a fresh install and same issue.  Software center will not load.03:10
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mikubuntuglitsj16: i'm putting this studio on a 16gb stick, and unet asking me how much space to preserve files across reboots can you advise?03:10
zedzdeadOk... so how can I make sure I don't get freaking black screen when I reboot. I blacklisted the stupid noveau drivers and installed the nvidia drivers. How can I guarantee I will not have to reinstall xubuntu after reboot...?03:10
glitsj16zedzdead: you should be fine, and if not, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and/or join the channel again for help03:11
glitsj16mikubuntu: you can't use more than 4GB for persistence iirc03:11
zedzdeadWhat exactly am I supposed to be looking for in that log file?03:11
glitsj16zedzdead: errors are marked with (EE) if they show up, should jump out03:12
JuJuBeetrying to run software-center from cli = http://paste.ubuntu.com/6812092/03:12
mikubuntuglitsj16: how much is that in megabytes? 400?03:12
glitsj16mikubuntu: 4x1024 MB03:13
mikubuntuglitsj16: so i should set at 4000 mbs?03:13
zedzdeadglits I didnt see any EE but I saw a lot of NOVEAU and that makes me nervous. How can I make sure I have purged noveau and How can I make sure that upon reboot the nvidia-304 drivers will be used?03:13
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: did you update your system?03:13
glitsj16mikubuntu: isn't there a slider you can use? if not use 409603:13
JuJuBeeapt-get upgrade? lotuspsychje03:14
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: no, i mean update to latest updates03:14
mikubuntuglitsj16: ok, processing03:14
glitsj16zedzdead: if you install the nvidia drivers from apt-get they take care of blacklisting nouveau automatically, it isn't usefull to uninstall nouveau03:15
JuJuBeeI thought apt-get update && apt-get upgrade = latest updates03:15
zedzdeadglitis: oh ok. But there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ should I be worried?03:15
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: sounds like this bug maybe https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/22141403:16
glitsj16zedzdead: that's the default yes, no xorg.conf these days .. but you can always make one if needed by using that earlier command you mentioned, nvidia-xconfig03:16
RaptorJesusor update03:16
zedzdeadglitsj16: well I tried running nvidia-xconfig and come back with this WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.03:17
zedzdeadERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.03:17
glitsj16zedzdead: needs sudo03:17
JuJuBeelotuspsychje: thanks for that.   They list a few different solutions.  I think I will try the one that purges software center03:18
zedzdeadI ran as sudo and it still came back with the same error. IS it because I have no xorg.conf file?03:18
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: yes, the end guy says tnx to the mark solution03:18
glitsj16zedzdead: yes03:19
zedzdeadok and what will this command do? sudo rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:19
glitsj16zedzdead: that will remove the file, -f is force03:20
glitsj16zedzdead: why not wait untill after reboot to see if you actually need an xorg.conf?03:21
zedzdeadI think ill just reboot and hope the nvidia-304 drivers get used. How can I make sure that they do though03:21
zedzdeadWell becasue I am afradi that if I do reboot the drivers will not be used thus causing a black screen03:21
glitsj16zedzdead: i can understand you want to make sure, but sooner or later you will have to reboot03:22
corp_droneh3ll0 h0w t0 us3 l1nux t0 h4ck03:22
zedzdeadok but how do I make sure the nvidia-304 drivers are used?.... that is all I need to know03:22
hitsujiTMO!text | zedzdead:  this should be enough to get you to the cli if it fails03:22
ubottuzedzdead:  this should be enough to get you to the cli if it fails: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode03:22
zedzdeadcorp_drone: sudo apt-get install gentoo03:22
glitsj16zedzdead: we can confirm the drivers are installed without problems .. did you get any errors when installing them?03:23
corp_droned0 1 typ3 1t in this ch4t?03:23
hitsujiTMO!ot | corp_drone03:23
ubottucorp_drone: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:23
zedzdeadno corp_drone you type shutdown -r now03:24
corp_dronehitsujiTMO, pl34s3 h0w to h4ck03:24
corp_droneshutdown -r now03:24
hitsujiTMOcorp_drone: enough, please take your trolling elsewhere03:24
corp_droneok :)03:24
corp_dronele epic trolling03:24
zedzdeadBe careful he might haxor u03:24
corp_dronezedzdead, 1 4m l34rn1ng03:25
lotuspsychjecan i set pan to force more then 4 threads somewhere?03:26
zedzdeadYes! I rebooted and the drivers were recognized! Le epic win XD03:27
lotuspsychje!es | manuel03:27
ubottumanuel: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:27
zedzdeadEnglish only please...03:28
manuel:/ sorry03:28
zedzdeadNo problem, manual03:28
zedzdeadAnyone else here have Steam running? Or use Steam?03:30
hitsujiTMOquite a few peeps do03:31
hitsujiTMOalso in #ubuntu-steam03:31
qinyup, zedzdead, i bet many people do03:32
zedzdeadOk well when you installed the .deb Did it prompt you to install extra packages? extra libs?03:32
hitsujiTMOzedzdead: yessum03:33
hitsujiTMOzedzdead: mainly 32bit packages03:33
qinzedzdead: cool nick btw, we have sing along pulp fiction tomorrow, yes it most likely ask for some packages03:33
qinwell, quote along*03:33
zedzdeadOh ok just making sure. I have  had bad experience in the past of Steam crashing upon start up03:34
glitsj16lotuspsychje: iirc 4 is the  maximum number of connections pan can have to the same server, but its been quite a while since i've used it03:35
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zedzdeadBut it looks like it is working now03:35
lotuspsychjeglitsj16: im using nntpgrab also, but pan downloads the fastest, so tryed to set more threads03:36
glitsj16lotuspsychje: i could be wrong though, after the lucid days i went with liferea03:37
mikubuntuomg. the ubuntu download server is oscillating between 1 and 2 hour eta for 708 mb ... lol. no, i'm not going to use the torrents.03:37
lotuspsychje!info liferea03:37
ubottuliferea (source: liferea): feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.15-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 172 kB, installed size 611 kB03:38
zedzdeadMaybe you are getting ddos?03:38
daftykinsmikubuntu: perhaps a better mirror is in order03:39
lotuspsychjeglitsj16: im using it for more then only txt reading :p03:39
glitsj16lotuspsychje: yeah i realise that now, after the fact useless help is my specialty03:40
lotuspsychjeglitsj16: if you like reading feeds, did you test google's feedindicator for ubuntu?03:41
mikubuntuglitsj16: (and) daftykins  --- cool beans, with the usb inserted, the target box bios letting me boot from the usb! yahooooo!03:42
glitsj16lotuspsychje: no it's the first time i hear about it03:42
Cheekioseems that despite being blacklisted, bad RTL drivers are loading anyway03:42
glitsj16mikubuntu: sweetness :)03:42
JuJuBeelotuspsychje: so I tried all of the suggestions on that bug report and none of them fixed it.03:42
CheekioI can't seem to force unload drivers for a realtek wireless card03:42
lotuspsychjeglitsj16: its for rss feeds in indicator03:42
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: did you reboot also?03:43
glitsj16lotuspsychje: i'll check it out, thanks for the info03:43
Cheekio"modprobe -r rtl8192cu" seems to have no effect on lshw03:43
mikubuntuglitsj16: i was not looking forward to waiting 2 hours for the cd ... thk god03:43
lotuspsychjeglitsj16: https://code.google.com/p/feedindicator/03:44
JuJuBeelotuspsychje: no, not yet.  quite honestly I am a bit afraid to, worried it wont start up at all...03:44
JuJuBeeI guess I will give it a try.  Here goes.  bbs03:44
goodkittenWhere post logs?03:48
lotuspsychje!paste | goodkitten03:48
ubottugoodkitten: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:48
JuJuBeelotuspsychje: so still crashes even after reboot03:51
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: not sure then mate, sorry03:51
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: if system is up to date, and purge/reinstall didnt work..03:52
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: did you have those issues on other ubuntu versions?03:52
mikubuntuglitsj16: i have a question, sort of for later. on this box that i'm passing on for mom i started with an ubuntu install. then i added Etudio, and Edubuntu, then LXDE Lubuntu,  and one of the quirks (to me) is that when i'm booting up it goes through a schizophrenic display of splash screens. How can i make just the Studio art persist?03:52
markovircHello Thor44603:53
mojtabaHi, Does anybody know how can I isolate bad sectors?03:53
markovircHello mojtaba03:53
mojtabamarkovirc: Hi03:53
lotuspsychjemojtaba: what do you mean by isolate?03:53
JuJuBeelotuspsychje: no03:53
Cheekioquestion: does modprobe affect drivers that are in use?03:53
Thor446Ive a few questions on Ubuntu, Ive never used it before03:53
lotuspsychjeJuJuBee: maybe a go back to lts?03:53
Thor446Im installing off wubi right now onto a partitioned E drive, and it gave me an error (forgot to read) and closed out; Im trying it again03:54
mojtabalotuspsychje: I just do not want the system mess with that bad sectors and make the scenario worse.03:54
Thor446Is it possible to install the files on the .iso directly onto my HDD without using a USB or CD?03:54
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | mojtaba03:54
ubottumojtaba: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.14-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 534 kB, installed size 1269 kB03:54
mojtabamarkovirc: Are you Miroslav?03:54
TheHackOpsIs it acceptable to ask for help with third party software in here running on ubuntu?03:55
glitsj16mikubuntu: the plymouth ones? those with the dots? if so, you have 2 options: either remove the ones you don't want or use the ubuntu alternatives system to set the one you want .. galternatives is a nice GUI to do the latter03:55
TheHackOpsSpecifically virtualbox03:55
mojtabalotuspsychje: My installation is encrypted, can I use that when booting?03:55
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: virtualbox is in ubuntu repos03:55
mikubuntuglitsj16: kool, galternatives i will check it out03:56
lotuspsychjemojtaba: no testdisk, is to test your hd, for health03:56
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: Yes, i am having some issues with it.03:56
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: I installed 2 virtual machines (Windows 7 64bit) and they were running smooth as day, i then restarted the host machine (Ubuntu Server 12.0.4 LTS) and when i then tried to start up the virtual machines again i get this on both of them "Could not open the medium /media/insertparthyayaya/example.vdi" VD: error VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND" Opening image file03:56
mojtabalotuspsychje: what do you mean by that?03:56
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: did you put the image to a removeable media perhaps?03:57
Thor446Wait does Wubi work on Windows 8?03:57
lotuspsychje!wubi | Thor03:57
ubottuThor: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug03:57
TheHackOpsTechnically yes, its on a hard disk that is mounted at /media/sdb103:58
Thor446Agh; can I install directly from the .iso into my hard drive without using a CD or USB?03:58
TheHackOpsHow ever that hard disk mounts before virtual box starts03:58
lotuspsychje!info unetbootin | Thor44603:58
ubottuThor446: unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 575-1ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 284 kB, installed size 830 kB03:58
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: Any ideas?03:58
mikubuntukool. mikey likes galternatives.03:58
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: doublecheck if your drive is mounted like you installed the image on03:59
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: seems like it cant find its location anymore03:59
TheHackOpsIt is mounted as i am accessing files off of it now03:59
mojtabaif I want to use badblocks, should I unmount the disk?03:59
mojtabaor can I use it with mounted partition?03:59
lotuspsychjemojtaba: what are you trying to do exactly?04:00
lotuspsychjemojtaba: bad sectors are bad sectors04:00
Thor446UNetbootin isn't letting me select my E:\ drive04:00
mojtabalotuspsychje: I want to find bad sectors on my hdd and avoid system touching them. not reading, nor writing.04:00
lotuspsychjemojtaba: your system cant use bad sectors..as they are dead04:01
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lotuspsychjeThor446: try replug your usb04:01
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Thor446Im installing directly into the hard drive, I dont have a USB or CD available04:01
mojtabalotuspsychje: I have read somewhere (unfortunately, I can not remember exactly where it was) that you can isolate bad sectors, and avoid more damage to hard dirs04:02
lotuspsychjemojtaba: try the ##hardware channel04:02
mojtabalotuspsychje: thank you very much04:02
Thor446My E:\ drive is NTFS, is that the problem?04:03
lotuspsychjeThor446: you cant install the iso directly to your hd04:03
lotuspsychjeThor446: you need a media somehow to burn it on, to install ubuntu on your system04:04
Jordan_Umojtaba: There are ways to tell a filesystem not to use certain blocks considered bad, but if your hard drive has unrecoverably bad blocks it's probably close to dying completely anyway.04:04
akimhi guys04:04
akimwhat font would you recommend for programming and terminaling?04:04
Thor446If I was able to use wubi, does that install it directly or I still require a USB?04:04
akimive tried source code pro but i dont like it :S04:04
Thor446I can boot on my other HDD from XP, if that'll make it work04:04
Jordan_UThor446: Don't use Wubi.04:05
lotuspsychjeThor446: you dont have a spare usb pen somewhere?04:05
Thor446Nothing at all04:05
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Thor446I have a bunch of CD-Rs, but I can't format them04:05
lotuspsychjeThor446: run to the store mate, and change your w8 nightmare to install ubuntu :p04:06
mojtabaJordan_U: Do you know how can I do that?04:06
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Thor446To amazon 1 day shipping I go!04:06
mojtabaJordan_U: I just want to make a backup (now the backup fails in the middle). Later I will switch to another hdd. (It is in my laptop)04:06
Thor446Ah, I have a radio shack up the street.  Anyway, thanks for the help, Ill probably be back once I get a USB04:08
Jordan_Umojtaba: If you're just looking to make a backup, then this is the wrong way to go about it (it will cause a lot of pointless reads to the disk, reducing its life). GNU ddrescue is probably what you want. Is the drive you're copying to large enough to hold a full image of the failing drive?04:08
lotuspsychjeThor446: i think unetbootin has also an option to install it on your hd, to boot the ubuntu setup04:09
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lotuspsychjeThor446: but never used it myself04:09
Thor446It does, but my E:\ drive isn't FAT3204:09
glitsj16akim: that's actually difficult to answer, why not try out a few and see what suits you .. i use inconsolata, just to name one04:09
lotuspsychjeThor446: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unetbootin/wiki/installmodes04:09
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: I fixed it, it was a big they logged in the bug-tracker and i just came up with a quickfix for it04:09
akimglitsj16, thanks, was just trying out that font :D04:10
lotuspsychje!yay | TheHackOps04:10
ubottuTheHackOps: Glad you made it! :-)04:10
Thor446Eh, Ill just run up to radioshack in the morning04:10
Thor446Once again, thanks for the help04:10
markovircHello richhoods04:11
richhoodsIm about to switch to ubuntu soon alittle nervous been rusty with programming lately04:11
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: If you were wondering its because their XML parser wich manages settings never checks if the two HDDs UUID's over lap04:11
TheHackOpsSo VirtualBox ends up trying to use both04:11
richhoodsany tips with the terminal i should know about?04:11
TheHackOpsat once04:11
lotuspsychjerichhoods: maybe the ##programming guys might point you in the right direction04:12
mojtabaJordan_U: Yes, I have a 1TB external disk04:13
richhoodswell w.e fuck it ill just learn as i go04:13
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: I am a programmer. richhoods feel free to pm me04:13
mojtabaJordan_U: The disk which has the OS is encrypted.04:13
James0rtrying to tweak this script i found to pastebin whatever i have selected. working alright except my text isn't word wrapping. someone help me out? http://dpaste.com/1568301/04:13
lotuspsychjeThor446: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59347/is-it-possible-to-install-ubuntu-without-a-cd-or-usb-drive04:13
mojtabaJordan_U: can I use this tool? I just wanted to make differential backups.04:14
Thor446Wubi, I have Win 804:14
mojtabaJordan_U: Can I prevent the system from reading those bad blocks?04:14
Thor446Is there a sort of virtual flash drive type thing I can create?04:15
TheHackOpsmojtaba: Pretty sure you can set a flag on that sector04:15
OerHekswubi does not work on win8, afaik04:15
lotuspsychjeThor446: unetbootin should be able to, not sure how04:15
mojtabaTheHackOps: How can I do that?04:15
Thor446UNetbootin can't install to my E:\ drive lel04:15
ubottuWubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug04:15
gr33n7007hThor446,  look up a little tool called rufus04:16
Thor446Should I boot into my E:\ drive on Windows XP, then install ubuntu onto the E:\ from there?04:16
TheHackOpsmojtaba: http://superuser.com/questions/627300/remove-bad-sectors-hard-disc04:17
TheHackOpsMaybe that would help04:17
ZCitrusHi. So, clearly new to ubuntu/linux, but ejected USB from nautilus through handy dandy icon. Removed usb. Plugged usb back in. USB no longer flashing, no apparent response from plugging it in whatsoever. Tried different USB ports, no change, absolutely nothing.04:17
markovircHello ZCitrus04:17
mojtabaTheHackOps: Thanks. I will check it now04:17
ZCitrusAm I a clear idiot somehow?04:18
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your device, see what errors you get04:19
TheHackOpsmojtaba: As people say its about to die probs so bin the disk04:19
lotuspsychjemojtaba: what brand is your hd?04:20
mojtabaTheHackOps: The problem is that, it is encrypted. (It is a laptop)04:20
mojtabalotuspsychje: I am not sure. How can I check that, (My computer is Dell Studio 1555)04:20
ZCitrusnot necessarily sure how to interpret it, but here: http://pastebin.com/BHVxDicg04:20
TheHackOpsmojtaba: Why is that an issue?04:20
ZCitruspresumably the not an MTB device?04:21
Thor446Wait, can Ubuntu be installed on a NTFS hard drive?04:21
mojtabaTheHackOps: I was doing backup and in the middle of doing that, the partition become read only04:21
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: maybe check your device out with gparted? (and format if needed)04:22
TheHackOpsmojtaba: thats very strange -.004:22
gr33n7007hZCitrus, have you just tried rebooting04:22
ZCitrusyes :(04:22
mojtabaTheHackOps: Yes, when I restart, it finds some errors at /home and /04:23
gr33n7007hZCitrus, what does lsusb say04:23
ZCitruslet's find out04:23
mojtabaTheHackOps: I have tried to force fixing it, but it is not working.04:23
TheHackOpsOh god well igot the vitual machines to boot up again but they are being very problematic now so i might as well just create new ones04:23
TheHackOpssince they were clean04:23
ZCitruslsusb results: http://pastebin.com/KKFT5EjH04:24
RaptorJesuswhen mantle from AMD?04:24
RaptorJesusi want BF4 on linux04:24
Jordan_Umojtaba: Please answer my question. Is the drive you're backing up to large enough to hold a full image of the failing drive?04:25
gr33n7007hZCitrus, not recognized at all weird04:25
gr33n7007hhow about fdisk -l04:25
gr33n7007hit shouldn't be listed but just incase04:25
mojtabaJordan_U: I guess you missed my answer. Yes, I have a 1TB external hard drive, and the bad disk is 512 GB04:26
ZCitrusuh nothing happened04:26
ZCitruslet me try changing ports and re-trying, just in case04:26
ZCitrusnew port, no changes on either lsusb or fdisk -l\04:27
gr33n7007hwhat make is it?04:27
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/118961/how-can-a-usb-be-detected-but-not-show-up-anywhere04:27
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ZCitrusit's some random emtec pos04:27
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: i would go for a gparted04:28
ZCitrusbut was working fine until i hit eject04:28
Thor446Is it safe to install Ubuntu to the hard drive Im currently using?04:28
ZCitrusit doesn't appear to be showing up in gparted04:28
mojtabaJordan_U: I guess you missed my answer. Yes, I have a 1TB external hard drive, and the bad disk is 512 GB04:28
Jordan_Umojtaba: Indeed, that was my fault. Sorry. I highly recommend using GNU ddrescue (not the similarly named but highly inferior dd_rescue) to make a full drive backup. GNU ddrescue is specifically designed to get as much data as possible off of a failing disk.04:28
ZCitrusi only show my hard drives04:28
lotuspsychjeThor446: you need to find a way to extract the iso somewhere to a media to install ubuntu setup first04:29
Thor446lotuspsychje If I used UNetbootin, I meant04:29
mojtabaJordan_U: The problem is that, the partition become read only in the middle of the process.04:29
lotuspsychjeThor446: i would go buy an usb device, they are cheap these days04:29
Thor446lotuspsychje If all fails, Ill just walk up to radioshack in the morning, I was too lazy to do that04:30
mojtabaJordan_U: Can I then restore it exactly on a new hdd on my laptop?04:30
lotuspsychjeThor446: a 2 gig usb pen will cost you almost nothing04:30
Jordan_Umojtaba: If you don't mind losing all of the data currenlty on the HD you're restoring to, yes.04:31
Thor446lotuspsychje Yeah, $3, Im just that lazy to walk half a block04:31
Jordan_Umojtaba: Have you confirmed that the problem is with bad sectors by checking the S.M.A.R.T. status of your drive?04:31
mojtabaJordan_U: I mean if I make a backup with that, and replace this hdd, with a new one.04:31
lotuspsychjeThor446: move your ** and go buy one, that will change your digital life to the ubuntu experience04:32
gr33n7007hZCitrus, try update-usbids && sudo update-pciids and try again04:32
mojtabaJordan_U: How can I do that?04:32
Thor446lotuspsychje B-b-but windows 8 master race!04:32
lotuspsychjeThor446: you mean nightmare?04:32
Thor446lotuspsychje It's not THAT bad, infact, it's the best OS I've ever used, but hopefully Ubuntu will prove me wrong04:33
ZCitrusgr33n7007h,  try which again?04:33
gr33n7007hdmesg see if it show up04:33
lotuspsychjeThor446: your badly wrong mate..ubuntu will ease up your life in every way04:33
ZCitruseh i mean lots of stuff appears when i dmesg but i dont have the faintest how to intepret it04:34
Thor446lotuspsychje Would wubi work if I booted up from XP right now? Im too impatient to wait for RS to open04:34
Jordan_Umojtaba: You can do it directly, but setting the new drive as the output for GNU ddrescue (with a third drive holding ddrescue's log file), or you have ddrescue save to an image file and later dd that image file to the new drive. (You can also mount the partitions on the image file while it's still a file, not need to copy it to a raw drive to be able to access your files).04:34
ZCitrusgr33n7007h,  dmesg results : http://pastebin.com/pN6YntiG04:34
Thor446lotuspsychje Before I even do that, can I even install Ubuntu to a NTFS hard drive? Should I transfer all my stuff to my secondary?04:34
lotuspsychjeThor: forget about wubi..04:34
gr33n7007hfdisk -l then04:34
ZCitrusabsolutely nothing04:35
gr33n7007hsome usb keys can only be unmounted not ejected04:35
ZCitruslet me try quick 2nd restart just in case...04:35
ZCitrusso if i hit eject on such a usb key, what would the result be?04:35
gr33n7007hMesses it up like not show again04:36
gr33n7007h*ing it04:36
mojtabaJordan_U: before you said that, I can put some flags on that sectors. Does this work for me?04:37
ZCitrusSo what can be done to repair it if we can't access it?04:37
gr33n7007hbut where's there's a will, there's a way04:37
ZCitrusthere is a will!04:37
ZCitrusoffice max is closed, and it's only 8:3004:37
Jordan_Umojtaba: That won't get you closer to making a backup, no.04:38
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mojtabaJordan_U: ok, thank you very much04:38
ZCitrusthe one weird part of this for me is that not even the red flashy light flashes. I had assumed it just did that on receiving power, but does it require a data transfer/read of some kind possibly?04:38
mikubuntuglitsj16: thanks for all your help -- system looks GREAT -- now i have to backup all my stuff from this other box and clean it up for mom -- g'nite and thx again04:39
gr33n7007hCould be just lying dormant from ejecting04:39
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Jordan_Umojtaba: You're welcome.04:40
glitsj16mikubuntu: you're welcome, enjoyed the meet .. take care and likewise04:40
ZCitrusalright let's try restart #2 for now, see if that helps04:40
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: you have this issue on all usb ports?04:40
ZCitrusyes, i do lotuspsychje04:40
ZCitruslet me try the restart, brb04:40
Thor446Brb, Im gonna try booting from XP04:41
ZCitrusOK, sadly, restart #2 did not help. My interpretation of events so far is something like the following: I ejected a drive which, for some reason, should not be ejected. It's understood that as some sort of request to be dormant, which it now is?04:44
jiridoHi. I try to compile and a .deb of libfm with debuild comand and when signfile wants to sign it dont get access to .gnupg. I know i can chown it to my user but it is not the right way.. http://pastebin.com/eaBqEMM004:44
markovircHello jirido04:44
jiridoHelo markovirc04:44
gr33n7007hZCitrus, try sync04:46
ZCitrusnot sure what you mean by that I'm afraid04:46
ZCitrusis that a terminal command?04:46
gr33n7007htype sync in terminal04:46
ZCitrusdidn't appear to do much04:46
jiridois there /j #gnupg04:47
gr33n7007hZCitrus, have you looked in /dev/disk/by-id/04:47
gr33n7007hto see if it really has gone04:47
ZCitrusresults: http://pastebin.com/cX3LPUVX04:48
ZCitrusi think those are hard drives and maybe a disk drive or two04:48
ZCitrusi dont think i see anything in here that would be the USB04:48
gr33n7007hNo, nothing04:49
gr33n7007hfile under b for bin, and get sandisk04:50
ZCitrusthe disk is straight trashed, really?04:51
gr33n7007hhave you got any other computers04:51
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: what brand is your device?04:51
ZCitrusand no, at least not today04:51
Thor446It appears you can't boot under another OS using Windows 804:52
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: well if gparted cant see it, might be bad news04:52
gr33n7007hanything that you can plug usb into04:52
ZCitrusnot tonight I'm afraid04:52
ZCitrusOther than a wall charter :x04:52
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: are your ports usb 2.0?04:52
ZCitrusbut I don't think that will help haha04:52
gr33n7007hjust to see if led comes on from power04:52
ZCitrusuh at least one of them is, just going off some of the earlier output04:52
ZCitrusyeah one of the lsusb results was : Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub04:53
lotuspsychjeThor446: dont be so stubborn, and buy an usb stick..04:53
Thor446lotuspsychje Like I said, I have to wait another 8 hours for radioshack to open so I tried to take the cheap way04:53
ZCitrusplugging the drive into a nook/phone charger's usb did not result in led turn-on04:54
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lotuspsychjeZCitrus: what ubuntu version are you on again?04:55
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: did you test other usb devices?04:56
gr33n7007hZCitrus, don't know what else to suggest really04:57
ZCitrusfair enough :(04:57
ZCitrusmy usb mouse/ipod working, I think I'm with gr33n7007h  on this one, the thing seems to be just straight trashed...04:57
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: could also be a libmtp problem04:57
ZCitruswhats that mean?04:57
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196419804:58
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: Here is a noob question. How can i keep a disk always mounted (At least mount at boot)04:58
ZCitrusthats a good point that guy raises actually, it would be interesting to see if my bios can see the drive04:58
TheHackOpsFor stability reasons i wish to do this04:58
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: and ntfs drive automount?04:59
TheHackOpsI think its ext3/4 i shal check04:59
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: Its ext405:00
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: hmm, is it an external device?05:00
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: No SATA internal05:00
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: strange that it doesnt automount..take a look in your fstab maybe?05:01
ZCitruslotuspsychje, to be clear, if I run tail prior to plugging the USB drive in, and then after plugging the drive in, no new output appears, does that mean I"m out of luck?05:01
Delta706I have Ubuntu 12.04 which is up-to-date.  Starting today, it gets the screen resolution wrong.  What can I do to investigate this?05:01
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: well the mtp error from the tail, is telling us something right05:02
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/QXFnB2tx05:02
TheHackOpsMy fstab05:02
Thorlotuspsychje: check your tabbing please <.<05:02
ZCitrusdidn't write the original command you gave me, but right now I'm running tail -f /var/log/syslog05:02
ZCitrusand then plugging the drive in05:03
ZCitrusand seeing absolutely nothing05:03
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: yes that was the command05:03
lotuspsychjeThor: sorry05:03
ZCitrusyeah, I'm not even seeing an MTP error anymore05:04
lotuspsychje!fstab | TheHackOps05:05
ubottuTheHackOps: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions05:05
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: how about a replug05:05
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: you sure you tryed sudo gparted correctly and checked the drives in right upper corner?05:06
ZCitrusthis prior to replug:  http://pastebin.com/0yxzHNfT , then replugged drive, and no change05:06
ZCitrusi launched gparted through dash, there were three drives in upper right corner, 250G, 500G, 1TB05:06
ZCitrusthe usb is not one of them05:07
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: ubuntu disktools doesnt see either i presume?05:07
ZCitrusis disktools equiv to disks?05:07
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: where you can see SMART options and becnhmark n such05:08
calikaffSo my VM doesn't have a /dev/sd*, /dev/hd*, or /dev/vd* and fdisk -l turns up nothing... Trying to do a disk test and can't find the device location05:08
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: what format is your device? fat? ntfs?05:09
TheHackOpscalikaff: What VM software?05:09
Jordan_Ucalikaff: What type of VM is this?05:09
ZCitrusI'm not sure if disks is equivalent to disktools, but disks only shows the HDs + cd bays05:09
ZCitruslotuspsychje, not sure if I remember the format of the device off the top of my head, and I can't exactly check. Its last use was to install ubuntu, if that's helpful05:09
calikaffLemme check05:10
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: ive seen weird mtp warnings on usb sticks before, after it was been plugged to MS Os05:10
ZCitrusHaven't had/used MS since I used it for the ubuntu install though, I'm afraid05:11
delinquentmewhats a tool that I could use to page through a big file?05:11
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: but i think testdisk wont be of use, as it doesnt recognize your device05:11
delinquentmesay like a database .sql file one page at a time?05:11
ZCitrusLet me BRB, I'm curious to see if BIOS will still register it as a bootable device05:11
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: kk05:11
TheHackOpscalikaff: Ok05:11
Jordan_Udelinquentme: less05:12
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: Never used anything besides ubuntu or centOS and this time around i am having quite a number of issues in a server environment05:12
TheHackOpsand i am using ubuntu server05:12
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: From last reboot it started doing strange things, and seems to be quite clunky at the moment05:13
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/252361/how-could-i-mount-an-ext4-partition-and-have-write-permission05:14
Jordan_Ucalikaff: An OpenVZ container is not a full VM, there is no emulated hard drive. It's more like a secure and robust chroot.05:14
ZCitrusYeah, no longer bootable either......05:15
gr33n7007hZCitrus, deffo dead05:16
ZCitrusIt really seems like the eject command instructed the USB to go dormant/turn off or whatever, never to awake again..05:16
lotuspsychjewell ive seen some uefi systems not recognizing usb (working) devices05:16
lotuspsychjenot yet a proof of death05:17
calikaffJordan_U: thanks! I am trying to decide which VM I should keep05:17
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: This server is about to go into a production environment today, Fingers crossed it does fall to shit05:17
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: retry the tail -f?05:17
ZCitrustail -f happens prior to re-plug, correct?05:17
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: first the tail then te plugin yes05:17
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: maybe doublecheck you syslog manually too, for usb warnings05:18
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: I am trying to put massive amounts of different operations on it now to see how rock solid it is05:18
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: hammering your own server :p?05:18
ZCitrusno input after plugging in the drive05:19
Jordan_Ucalikaff: Are you hosting these containers or is this something you've puchased from a VPS?05:19
TheHackOpslotuspsychje:  I am a server tech, And i am about to put in this new high performance server i have just built for some company05:19
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: Always go with ubuntu server as a am at home on linux and its normally rock solid05:19
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: well maybe gr33n7007h is right and time to go to a digital funeral :p05:19
TheHackOpsHow ever this time its being problematic05:20
calikaffPurchased vps servers on two diff host companies. Weloveservers and digitalocean05:20
gr33n7007hZCitrus, type this [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS05:20
lotuspsychjeTheHackOps: try phoronix test suite to hammer your system05:20
ZCitrusoh we're bios baby05:20
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: 120GB intel SSD, 8 Core 5Ghz, 2x1gbit Ethernet, 16Gb RAM so on05:21
calikaffDO is more $ per resource but is a real vps05:21
ZCitrusthis is not a new mobo :D05:21
TheHackOps1Tb 10,000 rpm Raptor05:21
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: dont forget doublecheck recent syslog errors05:21
gr33n7007hif bios is not showing it's ready for the knackered yard ;)05:21
Melly01hi hu c:05:22
Ronieare you IT professionals?05:23
Melly01we are happy ubuntuusers :DDD05:23
lotuspsychjeRonie: ubuntu supporters05:23
ZCitrushah this syslog thing is legit05:23
Roniei have a problem with opera browser.05:23
Ronieopera browser shows black screen sometimes05:24
ZCitrusgr33n7007h, lotuspsychje , thanks for the help dudes. Sad USB drive is sad, but worse things have happened05:24
lotuspsychjeRonie: on ubuntu?05:24
ZCitrusy'all have a good one05:24
Roniecompletely black and blank05:24
Ronieon puppy linux05:24
lotuspsychjeZCitrus: try every machine to connect it05:24
lotuspsychje!puppy | Ronie05:24
ZCitrushaha only got the one I'm afraid. I'll try it on something else tomorrow before it goes in the garbage heap05:25
Roniei requested on puppy channel, no one is helping. no response nothing ,so i am posting here.05:25
lotuspsychjeRonie: we cant support puppy neither sorry mate05:25
Melly01poor Citrus :D05:25
lotuspsychjeRonie: but we can strongly advice you to test ubuntu :p05:25
TheHackOpslotuspsychje: PM?05:25
ZCitrusit's ok! it was like $1205:25
ZCitrusand it is empty05:26
ZCitrusanyways, o/05:26
Jordan_URonie: This channel only supports Ubuntu. You can install Ubuntu or try a more generic channel like ##linux.05:26
Ronieok i wil try.05:26
Ronieanyways is it opera browser problem or os related problem?05:27
OerHeksor join ##opera for support05:27
Jordan_URonie: Please stop asking for support here unless you're actually using Ubuntu and having a problem with Ubuntu. Period.05:27
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Delta706does anyone have any thoughts on my screen resolution problem?05:30
TheHackOpsDelta706: What is the issue?05:30
cipherssonanyone set up etherpad on ubuntu?05:30
Delta706The size of the screen is wrong05:31
Ronieubuntus channel is a lot more populated and very active than puppy linux channel , that is for sure.05:31
Delta706It seems to be using 1024x768 4:305:32
dantuxdoes anyone know what hash-type is used for linux shadow file?05:33
gr33n7007hsha512 I think05:34
dantuxyes, seems like it, but do you know what number is for it in hashcat? (-m ???)05:35
gr33n7007h1 sec lemme check05:36
dantxoHello I'm adding a udev rule under /etc/udev/rules.d/25-name.video-devices.rules but it's not applying it, the rule is: SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", BUS=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="045e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0761", NAME="video10"05:37
dantuxthe hash_id python program tells me that the hash is sha256, but doesn't really work05:37
markovircHello vman411gamer05:39
RaptorJesushow does BF4 run on Ubuntu?05:39
vman411gamerIt doesn't05:39
RaptorJesusnot yet05:40
fwl73guys need help05:40
vman411gamerThey said they will most likely port to linux b/c of Steam boxes05:40
RaptorJesusbecause of SteamOS05:41
RaptorJesusi'm excited05:41
vman411gamerI have a question though05:41
fwl73need help05:41
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vman411gamerMy ubuntu recently broke (I am guessing b/c of drivers) and because it is so messy I want to do a clean install, but not without backing everything up first05:42
gr33n7007hfwl73, explain your problem so people can help you05:42
Roganderhi, I had a question about primitive values.05:42
markovircHello Rogander05:42
vman411gamerI am using the Disk image to use ubuntu and back everything up but I have run into a problem05:43
fwl73i have dell inspiron 15R 7520 laptop with amd radon 7730M 2GB gpu i want to permanently disable my amd gpu05:43
RoganderSo someone told me that there's downsides to using unsigned types over something like int64. Apart from not being able to access negative values, what is there?05:43
Roniehow to boot linux in uefi machine?05:44
vman411gamerI do not have access to my old files that are technically on a different disk and when I try to use "sudo -U myusername" it says it doesn't recognise it05:44
vman411gamerDoes anyone know how to gain access to root on another disk? (I have the password for it)05:44
fwl73fwl73@fwl73-Inspiron-7520:~$ lspci |grep VGA05:45
fwl7300:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)05:45
fwl7301:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Chelsea LP [Radeon HD 7730M]05:45
Rosbuntudo u know how to customize ur unbuntu05:46
Roniehow to boot linux on uefi machine?05:46
TheHackOpsRosbuntu: What do you mean customize?05:46
Roniei mean how to boot ubuntu on uefi machine?05:47
Beldarvman411gamer, what is it you need to do?05:47
RosbuntuTheHackOps,  i mean i want to change the position of the bar, change the theme of some of my programs05:47
vman411gamerBeldar, I need to gain acces to a root folder on another drive (I have the password)05:47
fwl73guys guys05:48
fwl73anybody there05:48
TheHackOpsRosbuntu: What version?, You can look at Compiz Manager or if you are using Unity check the unity manager05:48
gr33n7007hfwl73, what ubuntu version05:48
fwl73ubuntu 12.0405:48
markovircHello Ronie05:48
Roniecan anybody help me?05:48
RosbuntuTheHackOps,  im using 12.04 the french voyager05:48
Beldarvman411gamer, A chroot would be the general access.05:48
Roniehow can i boot ubuntu on a uefi machine?05:48
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Beldar!uefi | Ronie05:49
ubottuRonie: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI05:49
TheHackOpsRosbuntu: Compiz Manager might be what ou are looking for05:49
fwl73gr33n7007h, i try to use vgaswitchroo but getting error: no such directory05:50
gr33n7007hfwl73, sudo echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch if you want it persistent put in /etc/rc.local05:50
RosbuntuTheHackOps,  ok bud05:50
gr33n7007hmake the dir and file05:50
TheHackOpsRosbuntu: simple-ccsm is the package05:51
TheHackOpsRosbuntu: sudo apt-get install simple-cssm05:51
Jordan_Ugr33n7007h: "sudo echo foo > bar" runs /bin/echo as root, sending its output to the shell (which is running as your user), it's then the shell that redirects that output to the file. "echo foo | sudo tee bar" is generally the way this type of problem is solved.05:54
markovircHello fwl7305:57
fwl73fwl73@fwl73-Inspiron-7520:~$ sudo echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch05:57
fwl73bash: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: Permission denied05:57
fwl73iam tring to disable my amd gpu in ubuntu 12.0405:57
vman411gamerBeldar, where should I point the chroot to?05:57
fwl73need help05:58
gr33n7007hfwl73, sudo chown <yourusername> /sys/kernel/debug05:58
fwl73i have teamviewer05:58
fwl73can u pls tell me how05:59
fwl73cause switch vgaswitchroo is missing into my system05:59
Beldarvman411gamer, You might try to outline the end goal to the channel to get specific help.06:01
fwl73gr33n7007h ok now06:01
fwl73fwl73@fwl73-Inspiron-7520:~$ sudo echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch06:01
fwl73bash: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory06:01
fwl73getting this06:01
gr33n7007hlocate vgaswitcheroo06:01
gr33n7007hfwl73, is your processor intel or amd06:02
vman411gamerI am trying to get root permission on another installed ubuntu that will not boot so I can back it up before I wipe it06:02
gr33n7007htype `locate vgaswitcheroo` in termina;06:03
gr33n7007htype `locate vgaswitcheroo` in terminal06:03
gr33n7007hany output06:03
gr33n7007hseems your missing the header files06:04
fwl73so what to do06:04
gr33n7007hthus directories missing06:04
fwl73how to fix this06:04
Jordan_Ugr33n7007h: Please don't recommend that people change the ownership of important directories like /sys/kernel/debug, luckily in this particular case the permissions will be correct again after a reboot at least.06:05
gr33n7007hJordan_U, on the /sys dir always will do06:06
Jordan_Ugr33n7007h: I know.06:07
Jordan_Ugr33n7007h: Please be more careful when giving advice in the future.06:08
gr33n7007hJordan_U, no problem06:08
fwl73now what to do guys06:09
fwl73any direction06:09
gr33n7007hfwl73, can you not turn it off from bios06:11
markovircHello manikanta_06:11
manikanta_I need a help...06:12
fwl73i also think about this no option available even in latest bios06:12
greeterwhat do you need help with manikanta_?06:12
manikanta_I'm getting some error while installing  my lab project which is developed an year back ...I ll show you the error details 1 sec06:13
Roniegr33n7007h:how to know whether linux os is 64 bit or 2 bit?06:13
gr33n7007hRonie, arch06:13
Roniepuppy linux06:13
gr33n7007htype arch in termina;06:13
Roniepuppy linux06:13
* gr33n7007h can't type today06:14
manikanta_this is the error I'm getting....06:14
manikanta_/usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find -lpugixml06:14
manikanta_collect2: ld returned 1 exit status06:14
gr33n7007hRonie, type `arch` in the terminal06:15
greeteryou need to install the pugixml library for ld to be able to link the file(s) in question06:15
fwl73hello hello06:15
manikanta_I've installed it , how to link ld_library_path to pugixml ??06:15
Rosbuntumanikanta_,  r u a girl06:15
greeteroh you need to put it in your path. hmm i'm not sure to be honest06:15
manikanta_nope :? does it matter :D ...06:16
Roniegr33n7007h: its saying i68606:16
manikanta_girls are less in developer community I guess , not sure though :)06:16
gr33n7007hRonie, 32 bits06:16
Rosbuntugirls dont use ubuntu i guess06:16
manikanta_haha :D06:16
gr33n7007hor 4 bytes06:16
Roniegr33n7007h: u sure? i686 means 32 bit?06:17
casper_anyone know the audio drivers for a lt4004u06:17
manikanta_@greeter : help me how to link that :/06:17
treeprogramhi, what password do I enter to connect to a SSH server with PasswordAuthentication set to 'yes'?06:17
markovircHello treeprogram06:17
fwl73ronie its x3206:17
fwl73mean 32 bit06:17
greeterwell i understand there are at least two ways to add a directory to your path. i've never been very skilled at it but i can try to find a link which can help06:18
fwl73gr33n7007h hey hey06:18
fwl73what to do now06:18
manikanta_password to that account in that server....example : ssh <name>@web.x.com , you need to enter password linked with that account06:18
gr33n7007hfwl73, try google06:18
Roniefwl73:i typed getconf LONG_BIT in terminal and it returned with 32 bit06:18
BeldarRosbuntu, http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/06:18
fwl73oh come on i already google it but no sol. that why iam here06:19
treeprogramhow do I set the login password on an SSH server?06:19
manikanta_ /usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find -lpugixml06:19
manikanta_<manikanta_> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status06:19
RosbuntuBeldar,  lool06:19
greetermanikanta_: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path06:20
treeprogramhow do I set the login password on an SSH server?06:20
manikanta_greeter : thanks , will try and get back to you :)06:21
RosbuntuBeldar,  r u a woman in ubuntu :P06:21
fwl73pls pls p ls06:21
IdleOneRosbuntu: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?06:21
RosbuntuIdleOne,  yes06:21
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casper_anyone know the audio drivers for a lt4004u?06:22
EpaphusI wanted to know what essential packages I should get after installing ubuntu06:22
IdleOnethen ask it, and stop asking our users what their gender is.06:22
EpaphusSO? Anyone?06:23
RosbuntuEpaphus,  it depends06:23
greeterwell it's really a matter of preference Epaphus06:23
Rosbuntuwhat do u need to work in ubuntu06:23
zafarwho is expert for xubuntu06:23
Rosbuntulike if u a person with love and romance, then u must install a video and mp3 player06:23
greeteryour installation medium should come with everything needed, plus anything it downloaded during the install06:23
EpaphusI am currently learning to Program in java06:24
manikanta_install tasksel :D06:24
RosbuntuEpaphus,  then u should install programming language soft06:24
zafari really interested linux06:24
manikanta_it ll help you a lot installing other packages06:24
electricprismI need to know which brands of scanner are best supported in Ubuntu06:24
electricprismSo I dont buy one that deosnt work06:24
fwl73electricprism hp06:24
zafari want to learn server linux which book is the best to learn06:25
EpaphusI also wanted programs to keep my computer more safe and secure06:25
gr33n7007hfwl73, try adding modeset=1 to kernel params then checking for the directory06:26
greeterEpaphus: klamav might be a good choice if viruses are a concern for you06:26
Rosbuntui cant use my ubuntu hotspot in my android phone, it says obtaining ip adress and i cant use internet in my android phone, how do i solve that problem06:26
zafardoes anyone knows linux as a server06:26
fwl73u mean in grub06:26
markovircHello zafar06:27
fwl73by the way my output of06:27
fwl73checking for the directory06:27
fwl73<greeter> Epaphus: klamav might be a good choice06:27
fwl73fwl73@fwl73-Inspiron-7520:~$ sudo mount debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug06:27
fwl73[sudo] password for fwl73:06:27
fwl73Usage: mount -V                 : print version06:27
fwl73       mount -h                 : print this help06:27
fwl73       mount                    : list mounted filesystems06:27
FloodBot1fwl73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:27
fwl73       mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels06:27
casper_ anyone know the audio drivers for a lt4004u?06:28
manikanta_greeter : I understood that I've to do   @ export  LD_LIBRARY_PATH = /path/to/pugixml .....06:28
manikanta_how to get that path ?06:28
greyhatpythonzafar this is the book : https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/serverguide.pdf06:28
manikanta_thats the issue06:28
greetermanikanta_: try this command in a terminal window: locate *pugixml*06:29
manikanta_@greeter : I'm getting this way usr/share/doc/pugixml-doc/06:34
manikanta_there are lot of things in that folder ...06:34
electricprismfwl73: ok thx06:34
greeterhmm that's probably just documentation. are you sure you have the library installed?06:34
manikanta_is there any package for pugixml for ubuntu 12.04 ?06:35
greeterlet me look for one06:38
KI7MTmanikanta_, Looks like it starts in Saucy, 1.2.2 universe06:38
manikanta_so how to install it ?06:39
greeterhmm a google search didn't turn up anything useful to me about installing it with apt-get (i'm not very good at that though)06:40
KI7MTmanikanta_, enable backports, but you could en up pulling in allot of deps, or use checkinstall and built it from source.06:40
manikanta_hmm well I ll check that issue again....try to install it and get back to you :)06:42
wookienz_guys, just rebooted an ubuntu server and no grub entries show up. just memtest. Thoughts where to start?06:42
manikanta_this is the first time I'm using irc , it helped me a lot ...other googling the issues06:42
manikanta_thanks a lot @ greeter & KI7MT06:43
greetersorry i couldn't have been a bigger help. i'm still new to ubuntu and figuring things out for myself06:43
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Sounds like somehow update-grub was run when you didn't have any kernels in /boot/. Do you have a separate /boot/ partition?06:44
wookienz_Jordan_U, no should be all in one06:44
manikanta_its okay :)06:44
wookienz_i have a rescue cd booted. trying to fix it now06:44
Jordan_Uwookienz_: sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/ && ls /mnt/boot/ #please pastebin the output.06:45
wookienz_Jordan_U, /boot has grub dir and memtest.bin x 2 in it06:45
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Please pastebin your /mnt/etc/fstab.06:46
Jordan_Uwookienz_: I doubt that all the kernel packages were actually removed, because attempting to do that would cause apt-get to scream very loudly at you :)06:47
greetersounds like that would be an interesting experience06:47
wookienz_Jordan_U, unable to cut and paste, however... cat /etc/fstab only has /dev/pts, /run, /proc and /sys mount commands. no disk at all.06:48
wookienz_df -h06:49
wookienz_Jordan_U, I have booted to a ubuntu server rescue cd...i wonder if a livecd would be better.06:50
Jordan_Uwookienz_: df -h is very different from the contents of /etc/fstab.06:50
wookienz_i know df -h was in wrong window!06:50
Jordan_Uwookienz_: If you're connected to the internet then you can "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab"06:51
wookienz_ohhh cool06:51
wookienz_"apt-get" not found in my rescue environment...weird. maybe i need to boot to adifferent live cd06:51
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Indeed, a fully featured LiveCD environment sounds much better.06:53
wookienz_ok thats better...fstab looks fine with the UUID for the sda.06:58
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Could you please pastebin your complete /etc/fstab?07:00
wookienz_yup, just istalling it07:01
john_ramboHow do I delete a folder from the Ubuntu one app ? I have already removed it using the web interface but when I start the app it starts syncing that folder again07:02
Jordan_Uwookienz_: While you're waiting for pastebinit to install, you can start preparing to chroot into your installed system and re-install kernel packages. Where is your root partition mounted?07:11
markovircHello helmut_07:12
wookienz_Jordan_U, it cant seem to find the pastebinit package. im using a 12.04 desktop livedc07:13
wookienz_Jordan_U, /dev/sda1 mounted at /mnt07:15
Jordan_Uwookienz_: It's in universe. "sudo software-properties -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit"07:15
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Make that software-properties-gtk07:15
Jordan_Uwookienz_: for dir in /proc/ /sys/ /dev/ /dev/pts/ do sudo mount --bind "$dir" "/mnt${dir}"; done07:17
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Make that: for dir in /proc/ /sys/ /dev/ /dev/pts/; do sudo mount --bind "$dir" "/mnt${dir}"; done07:18
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jaywiretoo cool that one can iso to a bootable usb nowadays07:20
jaywireanyone here know about Mint?07:20
llutz!mint | jaywire07:20
ubottujaywire: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:20
jaywireo kay07:21
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wookienz_finally! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6812788/07:22
jaywireis there a way within Ubuntu to drop to a terminal that is at the monitor and not in x?07:22
JoshuaPubuntu ubiquity: WARNING:root:modinfo for fglrx failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module fglrx07:23
gr33n7007hjaywire, ctrl+alt+f107:23
Jordan_Ujaywire: You can switch to a tty with ctrl+alt+F1 (switch back to X with ctrl+alt+F7).07:23
jaywirethanks! has been long time07:23
wookienz_Jordan_U, done.07:24
JoshuaPcould someone tell me what that error means to my installation?07:25
wookienz_JoshuaP, got fglrx installed?07:25
JoshuaP wookienz_ it is during the install07:26
wookienz_ah. a bit above me sorry.07:26
wookienz_man chroot07:26
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Great. Now "sudo chroot /mnt/" should give you a root shell acting with your installed system's root.07:26
metulburrwould anyone have pointers on booting a live usb with secure boot? https://www.linuxdistrocommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=1873&pid=11473#pid1147307:26
manikantahow to add a user into sudoers file , like I have users , u1 u2 u3 ...u1 has the access to root , how to add u2 to that list ?? any help ?07:27
JoshuaPmanikanta: add the user to /etc/sudoers07:27
llutzmanikanta: sudo adduser u2 sudo07:27
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llutzmanikanta: same for u3, u4,...u12307:28
Jordan_Umanikanta: JoshuaP: Do *not* add users to /etc/sudoers.07:28
llutzmanikanta: that adds the users to the "sudo" group"07:28
manikantaso its same like adding normal users to the system ?07:28
nearstvisudo ?07:29
manikantayeah I was confused there ? Why should'nt we add users to that sudoers file ?07:29
JoshuaPmanikanta: then what is visudo for?07:29
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llutzmanikanta: JoshuaP there already is a group of users defined in sudoers, use it. it is easier to use the sudo-group, and avoids errors in sudoers file making sudo not working07:30
Jordan_UJoshuaP: For safely editing /etc/sudoers, but you shouldn't edit /etc/sudoers if you don't need to, and to give a user permission to use sudo you just need to add taht user to the sudo group.07:31
manikantacool :)07:31
manikantaso its the same thing happening ...07:31
manikantasudo adduser *x* sudo07:31
JoshuaPanyway, whilst i have your attention, could you help me with this error?07:31
manikantathis is writing into sudoers file only :)07:31
llutzmanikanta: from 12.04 it is the "sudo" group, former it was "admin" group07:32
manikantallutz : thnks :)07:32
Jordan_Umanikanta: adduser doesn't write to /etc/sudoers.07:33
llutzmanikanta: adding a user to sudo-group won't wrinte to sudoers at all07:33
wookienz_Jordan_U, what next?07:33
manikantathen ? :o07:33
llutzmanikanta: "sudo grep %sudo /etc/sudoers"  and then read what that line does07:34
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Within the chroot, "apt-cache policy linux-image-*"07:34
llutzman sudoers07:34
Jordan_Uwookienz_: And pastebin the output.07:34
manikanta%sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL  @ llutz07:35
manikantawhat does that mean exactly ?07:37
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llutzman sudoers07:37
manikantaIm new to ubuntu, help me out07:37
llutzmanikanta: "man sudoers" is a command, read the file and learn07:37
Jordan_Umanikanta: It means that any user that is a member of the "sudo" group is alloud to use sudo.07:37
Jordan_Ullutz: The manual for sudoers is among the more terse and technical manuals...07:38
manikantawhat exactly sudo group means , administrators ?07:38
Roniewhich is linux mint official channel?07:38
Jordan_U!mint | Ronie07:38
ubottuRonie: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:38
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llutzJordan_U: "man sudoers" explains all you need to know if you want to administrate a system and fiddle with sudo07:39
llutzand yes, it is complex because sudo is07:39
manikantafor beginners it ll be tough to understand by reading a man page :/07:40
llutzmanikanta: well, even beginners have to learn administration basics07:41
Rosbuntuwhat llutz  said is absolutely true07:41
manikantaso tell me this one thing ,  sudoers are kind of administrators ?07:41
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manikantaones who have access to root07:42
llutzmanikanta: yes, sudo empowers the user to use commands with root-rights07:42
k7jkzi tried to shutdown and was told i needed be root then my password was not accepted. puzzled me07:42
wookienz_Jordan_U, did a apt-get update, apt-get install linux-image, update-grub and it boots.07:42
KI7MTmanikanta, See Background Info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:42
Jordan_Uwookienz_: Congratulations.07:43
wookienz_many thanks. you certainly know your stuff.07:43
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k7jkzKI7MT: thanks for that community documentation link07:45
Maka___what is the difference between ~/local & ~/.local?07:46
aeon-ltdMaka___: one is hidden, hence the dot07:47
manikantaKI7MT : thanks for that link :)07:47
manikantaI could understand better now07:47
Maka___aeon-ltd: i have 2 guides for install Node.JS. In first .local and in second local. Which one will be correct? im novice in linux (07:49
aeon-ltdMaka___: i've never used node.js, but i'm guessing you'll have to reference it later in the javascript anyway. so i'm guessing the directory doesn't matter as long as the link works07:50
Maka___Thanks aeon-lts07:50
markovircHello vinay_07:51
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vinay_hi markovirc07:51
markovircHello vinay_07:51
manikantavinay talk something other than hello/hi :)07:52
vinay_iam trying to use some commands07:52
vinay_im using smuxi and iam new to it07:52
Jordan_Uvinay_: Please join ##test for such things.07:52
vinay_thank you07:53
vinay_will do07:53
Jordan_Uvinay_: You're welcome.07:53
manikantaclick /join07:53
Jordan_Uvinay_: "/join #test"07:53
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omdreams-homeanyone alive here ?08:28
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omdreams-homegood to know lol08:40
omdreams-homejsut getting my terminal irc  flex on08:40
omdreams-homeweechat.. having 1980's flashbacks now08:40
omdreams-homekinda missed this08:41
mobiesobaI had a boyfriend named ubuntu once.09:02
mobiesobaHe would "play the bongos" on my ass.09:02
mobiesobahe was a big nigger, with a big nigger dick to match09:02
mobiesobawhen he was inside me, it felt like my ass was a volcano of diarrhea09:02
piccamobiesoba: don't be racist09:02
mobiesobadon't be a nigger picca09:02
omdreams-homewait .. mobiesoba are you a guy or gal.. cause being in ass is diffrent in both instances09:06
omdreams-homeapologies if it was offensive to ask clarity09:07
heavyammoOn Xubuntu I have the following issue, have you guys had anything similar:     I have this issue with my Skype icon in the indicator plugin tray... I click on on it and instead of opening skype it shows the menu that you would see if you right clicked - Recent chats, all status changes etc. and  there is no way to open skype... I need to quit and reopen skype so it pops up again09:11
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aeon-ltdheavyammo: does this happen everytime? what happens when you do right click?09:12
omdreams-homeskype.. my nemisis..09:12
heavyammoaeon-ltd, I get the Indicator plugin menu Move, Remove, Panel09:13
heavyammoI tried using a desktop shortcut to Skype but it tries to open another instance, so it doesn't work09:15
Gallomimianevyn: are you still here? can you remind me the list of programs we discussed for use with raid and artificial hybrid SSD cache of platter drives? i neglected to write them down. i need to research them09:16
ezrhinohello. does anyone know the name of the default font Ubuntu uses for its boot screen when choosing the OS to boot into?09:26
markovircHello ezrhino09:26
ezrhinohi markovh09:26
ezrhinohi markovirc09:26
markovircHello ezrhino09:26
omdreams-homenot sure.. courier ?09:27
ezrhinoty i will try09:28
ezrhinoi am using Grub custmizer and i changed the font and the boot is al messed up, so im trying to find the original09:28
ezrhinookay i set it to Courier, reboot09:29
manikanta/usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find -lpugixml   :??09:30
manikantaI have the file in /usr/local/lib/libpugixml.a09:30
manikantaHow to resolve this , any help ?09:30
omdreams-homewaht is it09:30
manikantaI'm getting that error while installing from source09:31
omdreams-homeinstalllign what09:31
manikanta/usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find -lpugixml09:32
manikantacollect2: ld returned 1 exit status09:32
manikantaabove 2 lines is the error showing09:33
omdreams-homelooks like its looking for a build option thats not supplied but i am jsut geussing09:33
manikantaI have installed pugixml and its location is /usr/local/lib/libpugixml09:34
omdreams-homeao what is -lpugixml then  not -libpugixml ?09:35
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manikantaI dont know :/09:39
manikantadiff btw lpugixml & libpugixml09:39
nevynGallomimia: sure.09:42
* Gallomimia gets paper09:42
nevynGallomimia: they're not programs really... they're components of the disk subsystems.09:43
nevynso they're all bits of the kernel09:43
nevynthe major ones we discussed are md, cache and lvm09:43
Gallomimiapackages which i must google, i think?09:43
nevynso we discussed my prefered way to use ssd's and multiple disks in linux09:44
Gallomimiayes. a way to which i had no idea or inkling existed even! i'm happy to have heard about it09:44
nevynand how the particular characteristics of ssd's could be best utilised.09:44
Gallomimiai've heard raiding SSD's can be tricky... any foundation to that claim?09:45
nevynso I would not raid ssd's09:45
nevynI would use them with dm-cache09:45
omdreams-homeraiding ssd have inherent problems due to the limited nature of ssd read write  limitations.. ie every read write = wear to death  faster09:46
omdreams-homeraiding is for thruput and fast access - so theroy is faster to the death path09:46
HellooworldHI , could you please tell me whay's the difference between  wpa psk  ccmp and wpa  psk tkip ??09:46
markovircHello Hellooworld09:46
nevynomdreams-home: that's not true.09:47
Gallomimiaprobably the same speed to death, but more writes due to the bigger block/stripe size?09:48
nevynin particular the purpose and performance of "raid" varies with the raid level, device speed sand sizes.09:48
nevynGallomimia: no.. some raid levels (1, 4 and 5) write amplify. so a 512b write becomes 1.5kb written to actual disks.09:48
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Gallomimiai have a pair of SSD's. the plan was to raid0 them09:49
nevynyou could do that.09:49
nevynor you yould just tell dmcache about them09:49
Gallomimiabetter than single disks? or same?09:49
nevynit depends if you're planning to use dmcache or not.09:49
nevynso raid0 is just concatination09:50
Gallomimiai'm planning to "read all about it" then pick the best way. but i'll probably listen to your recommendations09:50
nevynif you're planning to use dmcache it's actually not a benefit because if one dies the other will go offline too.09:50
nevynso you raid the two ssd's then use that raid as a cache volume for dm-cache.09:50
nevynhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm-cache (btw)09:51
nevynif you do that (raid then use the raid device)09:51
artieIm trying to do an install from a livecd onto a usb flash drive in my system that i use everyday. I booted to the livecd and selected the 'do something else' option. But, the live cd isn't giving me a choice of doing anything to the usb drive. How do I install to the usb drive?09:51
nevynif a device dies the whole acceleration path dies because the raid will be OFFLINE09:51
Guest38007you wont really notice any difrence from using 1 ssd to using 2 in raid 009:51
nevynGuest38007: I'd notice.09:52
Gallomimiatheory says it should go twice as fast, yes/09:52
nevynthere'd be one filesystem to manage instead of two.09:52
Gallomimiaat this stage in the game, i'm really not worried about a disk failure. they're samsung SSD's and i expect decent life out of it09:53
Gallomimiaand, i would also expect that if one dies, the other should be right behind it09:53
nevynGallomimia: so my reccomendation is don't raid the ssd's just tell dm-cache about both of them.09:53
Gallomimiaalso they're still in the box09:53
Gallomimiak. but still run a 3x raid5 on the 2tb drives?09:54
nevynfor general unanalised workload this should give the best performance by being mostly self tuning.09:54
Gallomimiai generally just want it to load my games faster. most every other program runs fast as hell09:55
nevynso this would be my starting place.09:55
Guest38007you should have spent that ssd money on 1 really fast ssd insted of two and trying to do raid 009:56
nevynGuest38007: shush.09:56
Gallomimiadidn't know about this handy tool tho09:57
nevynGallomimia: you could. do other things...09:57
nevynyou should in any case.. put the games in a seperate lvm logical volume to other stuff...09:58
Guest38007your said for games, rinning windows 7 ?09:58
Gallomimiaof course not.09:58
Gallomimiawindows is illegal on my system >:(09:58
nevynGallomimia: so here's the thing. if you decide that dm-cache isn't adequate.09:59
Gallomimiabad enough i don't have an open source bios09:59
nevynyou could remove it.09:59
nevynadd the ssd's as additional Physical volumes in LVM  and move the logical volume containing the game data to the ssd's10:00
Guest38007lol ok, you should prob look into how linux handles TRIM for ssds, I'm not sure about that..10:01
Guest38007lol LVM dont use LVM wow linux 101 here10:02
nevynsigh. really?10:02
Gallomimia!nick | Guest3800710:02
ubottuGuest38007: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.10:02
Gallomimiauntil you get a real name, i'll presume you're a troll.10:02
Guest38007who me ?10:03
nevynno the guy who stole the cookie from the cookie jar.10:03
Gallomimiano the other one antagonizing a discussion between myself and nevyn10:03
nevynGallomimia: so the bits are...10:04
nevyn3x2gig in md raid5 -> dmcache using the 2xSSD -> multipath for failover (optional) -> LVM -> logical volumes10:05
GallomimiaGuest38007: i noticed you haven't given any reasons for your anti-recommendation yet... is this cause you don't have any?10:06
Guest38007no not trollin jest tryin to help you out becuse some guy was telling you to use LVM which is wrong10:07
Gallomimiaand yet you still haven't given reasons for that10:07
Gallomimianevyn: i'm thinking i'll perform a clean install of 13.10 on this new rig, and just abandon the install on this single 500g. at what stage will i run an installer?10:08
nevynGallomimia: I would do the md and lvm setup using the installer10:08
nevynthen setup dm-cache afterwards10:09
Gallomimiasounds pretty good to me.10:09
Gallomimiaand now it's 0210 here. time for some sleeping. thanks for repeating what you said a week ago10:10
nevynGuest38007: lvm is more complicated than simple partitions. but the gained flexibility is in my professional opinion worth it.10:10
Gallomimiait's an interesting concept. snapshot backups eh? very interesting10:11
Guest38007it's more for like a database server say, if you have 100 bg hd you can add to it make it biger, move lvm's around, stuff like that, you take a preformance hit by using it10:11
Gallomimiashould i map a few volumes, one for games, one for music/videos, and then the OS?10:11
Guest38007plus you cant backup LVM's with stuff like clonezilla10:11
Gallomimiaah, that's a discussion for another day10:11
nevynGuest38007: yes.10:11
nevynGuest38007: don't make things too big. 20gig for the os should be enough.10:13
nevynGuest38007: so for /10:13
Gallomimiai'm reading it can get moved around and stuff10:13
nevynGallomimia: ?10:14
Gallomimiai'm also wondering if i need to allocate swap at all :/10:14
Gallomimiamoved around... uh, i meant resized10:14
nevynthat's the point. so make it 20 and if you need to make it 30 worry about it when you've used 15.10:14
Gallomimiai've never actually liked partitions, except to run different operating systems on them10:15
Gallomimiaah, that's a good point really. could let me try a few other things eh? i've resolved to get used to ubuntu before bothering with different distro's10:15
nevynso this stack should boot with most linux's10:16
nevynyou will need grub210:16
nevynif you don't have a seperate /boot10:16
Gallomimiaanything worth caring about :P10:16
Guest38007Gallomimia think of it this way LVM is software RAID and your running raid 0, so your trying to run two raids at once = slow10:17
nevynGuest38007: that's just wrong.10:18
Gallomimiabut i'm not going to run raid 010:18
Gallomimianevyn just told me not to. you were there10:18
Gallomimiais dm-cache smart enough to try using them both to their fullest potential?10:19
solsTiCeI can't access the Public directory in my home of ubuntu laptop that I set to share from another ubuntu laptop. all I can see in the log is a permission denied on "stat of /var/lib/samba/usershares/public failed, Permisison denied"10:19
nevynGallomimia: it'll keep an index in ram of whats cached on each ssd and avoid doubling up10:20
Gallomimiabut will it spread the cache around and let me read it faster?10:20
Guest38007Ok ok no raid 0, yoae raid 0 and using lvm would jest be a mess, you mite as well install ubuntu  and make a big pile of mess10:20
Gallomimiai dunno if that's all that important10:20
GallomimiaGuest38007: i think you've had enough to drink. maybe you should go to sleep?10:21
Guest38007lol windows 8 users10:22
Gallomimianevyn: hah. this guy is funny. Guest38007 do you do children's parties also?10:24
nevynGallomimia: it's not magic it can make a guess about future access patterns but it doesn't know them.it's like the perfect memory manager (swapping strategy)10:25
nevynGallomimia: the perfect swap strategy is swap the memory page we'll never need again10:26
nevynGallomimia: failling that the one we need furthest into the future10:26
Gallomimiathe only way to come even remotely close to that is if your programs all tell your pager their plans10:27
nevynright. guess what doesn't happen10:27
nevynand they do it in a contract type way.. (ie.. we promise we won't need this for 30 seconds whatever...)10:28
Gallomimiabranching prediction goes awry and plans get scrapped :P10:28
Gallomimiaalso, it'd take more resources to do that than would ever be saved or freed or shared more efficiently10:29
Gallomimiaright. odd question now. mplayer used to work fine in fullscreen. now it goes in behind all my windows and behaves like a spoiled child. what can i do?10:32
nevynchange it's video output plugin?10:33
ezrhinohello. can someone please help me fix this font issue. please see this image of my computer http://imgur.com/ekTD0Ef10:33
markovircHello ezrhino10:33
ezrhinohi markovirc10:33
markovircHello ezrhino10:33
Gallomimiai didn't do anything... oh wait yes i did. i plugged in my monitor with dvi instead of vga10:34
Gallomimiashould do that again10:34
Gallomimiai'm sure it'll fix itself if i connect it properly and reboot10:34
nevynGallomimia: that shouldn't be necessary10:36
Gallomimiai agree. but that's when the trouble started now that i think about it10:36
Gallomimiasame monitor, different port10:36
manikantaIs there any package for GDAL in ubuntu 12.04  version 1.8 ??10:36
Gallomimiaseemed to dislike it10:37
berty12hi guys. synapsis touchpad here. i have the following problem, i want to adjust my touchpad that it recognizes my fingers better, like sensitivity. i dont know which value to change in synclient...any ideas? (yes.i read the wiki and the manpage. but its just my lack of english, i cant get an idea what the values exactly mean!)10:37
berty12its like i need fatter fingers to make it work problably. not the pressure is the problem. if i use my whole finger but very very carefully it works10:38
berty12just the tip of my finger (with a little pressure) wont work10:38
berty12i want it to work with just the tip of my tiny little finger ;)10:39
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ezrhinodoes anyone know the name of the default font used for the boot screen when you can choose your OS to boot into?10:41
ezrhinoi am having this ugly issue http://imgur.com/ekTD0Ef10:42
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FrogbarfCan someone tell me the current version of gdb that "ships" with Ubuntu 13.10 ?10:42
FrogbarfCan someone run the command $gdb -version to check?10:45
cfhowlettFrogbarf, I'm on UbuntuStudio 12.04 ... GNU gdb (Ubuntu/Linaro 7.4-2012.04-0ubuntu2.1) 7.4-2012.0410:51
Frogbarfthanks cfhowlett. The current version of Ubunto is 13.1 correct?10:52
kruxFrogbarf, 7.6.1-ubuntu10:52
cfhowlettFrogbarf, 13.10 is the current release.  Current Long Term Support release is 12.0410:53
Gallomimiathe numbers are year.month nothing to do with "versioning"10:53
FrogbarfI am having a gdb related problem under my distro, but I reproduced it in the office with the "current" version of gdb under 13.1 "out of the box", but I am not in the office right now so I am trying to figure out what version of gdb is on 13.1010:54
kruxFrogbarf, 7.6.1-ubuntu10:55
Gallomimiait stands to reason that if your system is up to date, you'll have the latest version of gdb packaged with ubuntu10:56
Frogbarfkrux:  that's the version of gdb under saucy salamader?10:56
cfhowlettFrogbarf, try this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     those commands will update 13.10 to the current packages10:57
FrogbarfGallomimia:  the problem I couldn get kdbg to work properly under the current versions of either suse or ubuntu. The bug appears reproducible under both distros10:58
FrogbarfI installed  Ubunto 9.1 last night and the problem doesn't exist. It seems to be an issue in more than one distro10:59
Frogbarfbut only newer versions11:00
bekksFrogbarf: 9.10 is end of life.11:00
bekks!eol | Frogbarf11:00
ubottuFrogbarf: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:00
Frogbarfbekks:  Yep, it's is end of live, but the Assembly Language Tutorial  book I am using requires Insight and a working kdbg11:01
bekksFrogbarf: That still doesnt make 9.10 being supported.11:01
bekksand kdbg isnt broken in newer versions afaik.11:01
Frogbarfbekks, I know it's not supported, but it works to follow along with the training exercises11:02
Frogbarfbekks:  I reproduced an issue with kdbg under both suse 13.1 and ubuntu 13.10. The green pointer in the source window does not appear when stepping though commands11:03
bekksFrogbarf: Did you try 12.04?11:04
whiskers75What's the best Ubuntu distro for Mactel (late 2009)?11:04
markovircHello anup_grind_11:05
AlphadudeHello markovirc.11:05
bekkswhiskers75: the supported versions are 12.04 to 13.1011:05
markovircHello Alphadude11:05
Alphadudeyou did not greet me, markoviric11:06
Alphadudenow you did.11:06
Alphadudethat is very nice of you.11:06
whiskers75bekks: 12.04 does not fit on a CD.11:06
Frogbarfbekks:  I have not. With all due respect, I am a  Suse user, but had to "fall back" on Ubuntu in order to follow along with the book  "Assembly Language Step by Step" by Jeff Duntemann11:06
Paxhey comrades11:06
Alphadudemarkoviric; now your main job is to greet people that arrive in this channel.11:06
Alphadudeyou are the greeter, markoviric.11:06
whiskers75bekks: and this Mac does not boot from USB.11:06
bekkswhiskers75: It does, for me.11:06
gordonjcpFrogbarf: that doesn't make a lot of sense11:06
whiskers75bekks: You have big CDs.11:06
AlphadudePax; and you...yes, you. you're the watcher.11:06
Alphadudesit back and watch bekks ridicule newcomers.11:06
anup_grind_this is the first time i am in a irc chat so just trying to learn'11:06
gordonjcpFrogbarf: why do you need to use Ubuntu to read a book on assembly language?11:06
whiskers75Alphadude: I am not a newcomer.11:06
Paxthe watcher?11:06
Alphadudewhiskers75: you are a newcomer in my eyes.11:06
Frogbarfgordonjcp:  ding ding ding..11:07
AlphadudePax; yes, the watcher.11:07
bekksAlphadude: Neithe I do ridicule someone in here, nor I did get personal towards you. So stop your ranting.11:07
FrogbarfThat is a very good question!11:07
AlphadudePax; you shall not help; but you shall watch.11:07
* whiskers75 noms Alphadude11:07
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines11:07
Alphadudebekks; shut your cryhole.11:07
Frogbarfwith a very good answer11:07
bekksAlphadude: Ignore set....11:07
ubottuAs our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.11:07
Alphadude!behelpful > bekks11:07
ubottubekks, please see my private message11:07
Paxwell ok then not even sure what I am missing out on helping11:07
FireStormsI am trying to determine the cause of a bug. To do this I must remove the package "libavahi-common3". But if I do remove it 268 other packages that depend on it will also be removed, basically I'll break my system. Is there any way to remove "libavahi-common3" without breaking my system?11:08
gordonjcpFrogbarf: and what is that answer?11:08
FrogbarfWhen the book was written, it relied on insight which was pulled from ubuntu just after the book was published11:08
AlphadudePax; when is Ubuntu 14.14 coming out?11:08
Paxcan i be the acid provider instead lel11:08
Alphadudeok enough11:08
cfhowlettFireStorms, this is your working system I assume.  Perhaps better to set up a virtual machine to fix/break?11:08
whiskers75ok, this support channel isn't really support, just !offtopic11:08
ubottuAlphadude,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes11:09
Frogbarfso i visited the errata website and foundthis11:09
HtfuHi guys. I have a problem with a boot-error: "Invalid signature detected." - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6813602/ for more info. Anyone care to take a look?11:09
Alphadudevery saucy indeed, cfhowlett.11:09
Alphadudewant sauce? get ubuntu 13.10!11:09
Alphadudeubuntu 13.10, the OS of 4chan11:09
FrogbarfThe second problem with which Jeff is currently dealing, is the fact that he was blindsided by the recent release of Linux Ubuntu 10.4. For unknown reasons, the Insight debugger, which Jeff uses throughout his book, was dropped from the Ubuntu 10.4 package. Further, an Insight package is not to be found on any of the standard repositories that Ubuntu 10.4 Synaptic knows about, and I haven't been able to get any Insight packages11:09
Frogbarffrom other sources to work. However, there are several work-arounds for this problem. In particular, see Solution Three below for a way to actually install Insight on Ubuntu 10.4:11:09
gordonjcpFrogbarf: insight is pretty old11:09
FireStormscfhowlett, yes it is my work system. I do not have the knowledge to clone my machine into a virtual box. So instead I am hoping there is a method of reverting package uninstillations?11:10
Alphadudewho even puts these names on ubuntu?11:10
whiskers75I'm leaving until some ops clean this place up.11:10
whiskers75oh wait, I can just ignore Alphadude11:10
gordonjcpFrogbarf: it hasn't been updated for four years, and uses a toolkit that hasn't been updated for over a decade11:10
AlphadudeUbuntu 13.04 (Hypnos) would be cooler11:10
Frogbarfgordonjcp:  yes it is very old, and a user can easily work with kdbg11:10
AlphadudeUbuntu Hypnos!11:10
cfhowlettFireStorms, over my head - sorry.11:10
bekkswhiskers75: I just looked it up: the 12.04 alternate ISO is 746M, which fits on 800M cd media.11:10
gordonjcpFrogbarf: yeah, I mean really if you're tying yourself to one specific tool you don't really understand the problem11:10
Alphadudewhiskers75: why do they have to clean? I am neither abusing or harassing the godmade law.11:10
Frogbarfbut for some unknown reason kdbg also does not work in the current versions of Ubuntu or suse :(11:11
AlphadudeI am just sitting here getting knowledge.11:11
AlphadudeI am a university student.11:11
gordonjcpFrogbarf: does gdb work?11:11
Alphadude!behelpful > whiskers7511:11
ubottuwhiskers75, please see my private message11:11
gordonjcpFrogbarf: (yes, it does)11:11
gordonjcpwhiskers75: the install images fit perfectly on any USB stick you're likely to be able to buy11:11
Frogbarfgordonjcp:  do you have it?11:11
gordonjcpFrogbarf: gdb?  Yes, I use it a lot11:11
Alphadudewhat is the lightest desktop environment but yet very appealing to the eye?11:11
whiskers75gordonjcp: Yes, but sadly this Mac can't boot from those11:11
gordonjcpwhiskers75: o_O11:12
gordonjcpwhiskers75: which model?11:12
Alphadudegordonjcp: o_011:12
Frogbarfmay I ask you to test it on the first example ?11:12
gordonjcpFrogbarf: pm me a link to it11:12
whiskers75gordonjcp: Mactel, late 200911:12
whiskers75gordonjcp: rEFIt just fails11:12
gordonjcpwhiskers75: works just fine on my 3,1 late 200711:12
Frogbarfsure, just a moment11:12
gordonjcpwhiskers75: I've done it on a late 200911:12
Alphadudejust a moment, gordonjcp.11:12
Alphadudefrogbarf will be right back.11:12
cfhowlettwhiskers75, refit is no longer supported.  refind is the suggested alternative11:12
gordonjcpAlphadude: if you've nothing to say, say nothing11:13
whiskers75cfhowlett: How do I upgrade to refind from refit, then?11:13
gordonjcpwhiskers75: download and run refind11:13
Gallomimiawhiskers75: should work just fine. hold option during boot11:13
whiskers75thanks ;)11:13
cfhowlettwhiskers75, not an upgrade - whole different program to install11:13
gordonjcpwhiskers75: have you still got OSX on?11:13
whiskers75gordonjcp: yes11:13
gordonjcprefind makes it *easy*11:13
Alphadudegordonjcp: I have billions of words to say; but I shall let only kind ones get out from my mouth.11:13
Alphaduderefind makes it very very easy11:13
* whiskers75 grabs a USB and unetbootin11:14
AlphadudeI still use DVDs.11:14
gordonjcpwhiskers75: don't use unetbootin11:14
gordonjcpwhiskers75: you've got dd11:14
Alphadudewhy not, gordonjcp?11:14
gordonjcpAlphadude: no need for it11:14
Alphadudedd is advanced and hard, gordonjcp11:14
Gallomimiayep. dd is best11:14
Gallomimianot that hard11:14
Alphadudedd screwed my partition up last time I tried11:14
Alphadudedd is a no-go for me11:14
gordonjcpAlphadude: it's far simpler than unetbootin11:14
Frogbarfgordonjcp:  Here is the listings archive.  http://www.copperwood.com/pub/asmsbs3e.zip  unzip it then in chapter5/eatsyscall assemble the program eatsystcall.asm in 32 bit mode then try to step though the executable in kdbg11:15
FrogbarfIn the source window it is not possible to click on the plus symbols on the left.11:15
Gallomimiait's easy to find out which device to use by listing devices before and after plugging in the usb, piping them to file and running diff on the results11:15
Alphadudeis it possible to boot windows XP from a USB that was added thru dd?11:15
Gallomimiafrom there you go dd if=myimage of=mydevice11:16
gordonjcpFrogbarf: I use gdb, not kgdb11:16
FrogbarfYou can enver a breakpoint, but he green pointer is missing so you cannot see which instruction the program is at11:16
whiskers75gordonjcp: no, dcfldd11:16
gordonjcpFrogbarf: I wouldn't touch KDE with a ten foot stick11:16
cfhowlettAlphadude, windows xp is not supported here on the #ubuntu channel - obviously11:16
gordonjcpwhiskers75: that'll work too11:16
FireStormsIs there a command to kill a processes that are using a particular package: "# apt-get remove libavahi-common3: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"11:16
Alphadudecfhowlett: I use Ubuntu; but I was thinking if it was possible to boot windows XP from a USB.11:16
FrogbarfI understand, but I am new, and would like to use this tool, that works just fine in older versions of suse and ubuntu11:16
gordonjcpFireStorms: that's not because something is using the package, that's because something is using the package manager11:17
GallomimiaFireStorms: lsof with a grep will probably help you find which process11:17
FireStormsgordonjcp, that makes sense I do have synaptic open, thank you11:17
Gallomimiabut thats probably just software center11:17
* whiskers75 axel http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso11:17
gordonjcpFrogbarf: works just great in normal command-line gdb11:19
gordonjcpFrogbarf: I know that's not the answer you're looking for11:19
gordonjcpFrogbarf: but give it a shot anyway11:19
whiskers75gordonjcp: so just dd if=(iso) of=/dev/sdc?11:19
gordonjcpwhiskers75: correct11:20
gordonjcpwhiskers75: assuming sdc is the right path11:20
whiskers75you can do that with ISOs?11:20
gordonjcpyou can do that with *some* ISOs11:20
FloodBot1Alphadude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:20
Alphadudegordonjcp: please teach us :O11:20
Frogbarfgordonjcp:  thanks, I'll look over it. meanwhile I'll hit up the kdbg people as well.  My intent is to learn a much as possible without being too distracted by differences in tool utilities11:21
whiskers75gordonjcp: writing..11:21
Alphadudehit em up, frogbarf.11:21
Alphadudehit em' up with a goddamn axe.11:21
whiskers75504Mb so far11:21
Alphadudehit em really good.11:21
gordonjcpFrogbarf: cool11:21
Alphadudei only have 1kb left11:21
MyrttiAlphadude: this is a support channel, can you keep to the support issues?11:21
gordonjcpFrogbarf: as a matter of interest, what are you writing in assembler?11:21
whiskers75there, 22528 blocks (704Mb) written.11:22
gordonjcpwhiskers75: quick!11:22
gordonjcpyou obviously have better USB sticks than me ;-)11:22
AlphadudeMyrtti: I am a university-student as I mentioned, while you were busy beating your Johnson as if it owes you money; I was busy harvesting some knowledge.11:22
gordonjcpwhiskers75: run "sync" before you eject it11:22
AlphadudeMyrtti: I am only here to get more insight on Linux.11:22
gordonjcppopcorn, anyone?11:22
AlphadudeMyrtti: is that allowed?11:22
MyrttiAlphadude: I don't really care if you're a plastic bag, what I do care about is that the channel is kept clear enough for the main purpose of the channel,  which is to help people with their problems and issues with their Ubuntu installations11:23
Frogbarfgordonjcp:  I just have the book and would like to learn  more about programming, so I wanted to start with that. But when the tools mentioned in the instruction manual are either broken or missing in the current distros that I am farmilar with11:23
HtfuHi guys. I have a problem with a boot-error: "Invalid signature detected." - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6813602/ for more info. Anyone care to take a look? Im using 13.10.11:23
AlphadudeMyrtti: I am a handbag.11:23
AlphadudeI'll just listen from now on, I guess.11:24
gordonjcpFrogbarf: we should take general discussion of programming to #ubuntu-offtopic11:24
Alphadudesince Myrtti is here is saying that I am breaking some kind of non-existent low.11:24
FloodBot1Alphadude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:24
Alphadudegordonjcp: yes, come there.11:24
Alphadudesince it's offtopic, Myrtti shall not abuse us.11:25
whiskers75gordonjcp: USB stick isn't showing when I hold Option11:27
whiskers75Lemme try another11:29
gordonjcpwhiskers75: is refind installed?  It should show up on the refind menu11:29
kkkkkkkkkhi all,. I am using UBuntu 12.04 and i burned a Data DVD using K3B, now the problem is that DVD burned successfully, and working in windows but not in Linux.  I know that in K3B, there were a option WINDOWS+Unix, but why the DVD is not working in Linux11:31
MonkeyDustkkkkkkkkk  "not working"?11:32
Myrttikkkkkkkkk: is it a data dvd?11:32
kkkkkkkkkfirst few hours, i thought there may be problem in DVD or DVD writer, but both are okay11:32
kkkkkkkkkMyrtti: yes11:32
kkkkkkkkki burned a image, but with other file and folders, not just only a image11:33
kkkkkkkkkI selected data project from K3B11:33
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kkkkkkkkkand file was more than 2gb , there were some message that enabled UDF extension for files larger than 2gb11:33
Alphadudemore than 2gb?11:34
Alphadudeholy fuck11:34
FloodBot1Alphadude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:34
AlphadudeI am not flooding, I type at the speed of light.11:34
MonkeyDustAlphadude  and mind your language11:34
whiskers75oh, is Alphadude spamming again11:35
kkkkkkkkkno error reported by K3B and disk is working well in Windows, i am wondering, a Linux application is not loading DVD's made by itself11:35
kkkkkkkkkI burned two DVD's in K3B and both of them are working in windows not in Linux, :(11:36
kkkkkkkkkdisk spins and stops11:36
kkkkkkkkkIn k3b, it detects , and its name appear in the top left pane11:36
kkkkkkkkkbut when i right click and try to mount11:37
kkkkkkkkknothing happens, and when i click load, it ejects DVD11:37
kkkkkkkkkwhat could be the problem??11:37
kkkkkkkkkI also installed Ubuntu Restricted extras11:37
bekkskkkkkkkkk: Try mounting it manually, not using k3b, but a terminal.11:37
kkkkkkkkkbut no luck11:37
kkkkkkkkkbekks: how to do that11:38
feldsparkkkkkkkkk: what kind of data are you burning to dvd?11:38
Ben64how big of files are you burning11:38
bekkskkkkkkkkk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount11:38
kkkkkkkkkfeldspar: one file of 2100 MB and other are small files, .exe softwares 2 MB, 5 Mb etc11:38
kkkkkkkkkit is a ISO file and i burned it because i need image on DVD instead of creating it again11:39
Ben64so try "sudo mount <dvd reader device here> -t udf <mount point here>"11:40
ezrhinohi, would someone take a look at my grub and tell me where to fix the font part?11:41
markovircHello ezrhino11:41
kkkkkkkkkYES, IT IS MOUNTED11:41
kkkkkkkkkAND FILE contents are visible11:41
FloodBot1Alphadude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:42
Alphadudep1ckle: IT'S MOUNTED11:42
bekksSomeone please can quiet that guy?11:42
AlphadudeWE ARE FULL OF JOY11:42
kkkkkkkkkbut why do i need command, i was expecting it to automount11:42
AlphadudeIT'S *GODDAMN* MOUNTED11:42
gordonjcpah good11:42
kkkkkkkkki would like to automount, when i insert it, not only that DVD, but every DVD should be mounted11:43
kkkkkkkkkand without command, please11:43
kkkkkkkkkis there any way??11:43
HtfuIm gonna post again, as i've had no responses. Im sorry for reposting.11:44
HtfuHi guys. I have a problem with a boot-error: "Invalid signature detected." - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6813602/ for more info. Anyone care to take a look? Im using 13.10.11:44
markovircHello Alphadude11:45
AlphadudeThank you, markoviric.11:45
Alphadudeyou are very kind.11:45
Alphadudemarkoviric: perhaps...you're the most kindest piece of meat I have communicated with.11:45
MyrttiAlphadude: if you can't control your language or behaviour, please leave.11:47
kkkkkkkkkWhy ubuntu is not stable, after so many years, with these old age CD/DVD standards?? and it is annoying to use commands for simple things, please help guys, how to mount dvd/cd without commands11:47
AlphadudeI can only control my cock.11:47
Alphadudeupon your mother's ugly face.11:48
kkkkkkkkkthings should work out of box, just like it detected blank DVD but after that11:48
Alphadudeand her 32bit personality.11:48
whiskers75gordonjcp: Your USB advice doesn't work11:48
Alphadudehey whiskers75: do you got mac?11:48
kkkkkkkkkafter burning, it is not detected by OS,11:48
whiskers75gordonjcp: The USB does not show under the option menu, and rEFIt fails to boot it11:48
ubottuAlphadude,: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!11:48
ezrhinowould someone mind looking at my grub pastebin?11:48
gordonjcpwhiskers75: strange11:48
gordonjcpah, wait11:48
whiskers75gordonjcp: with dd and unetbootin11:49
ezrhinoBen64, are you here sir?11:49
markovircHello MarkDavies11:49
* whiskers75 meows.11:49
markovircHello Myrtti11:49
gordonjcpwhiskers75: what exactly is the error you get when you try to boot off USB?11:49
MarkDaviesDoes somebody use mysqlhotcopy here? It doesn't seem to work well with Ubuntu11:50
kkkkkkkkkMyrtti: could you help me, mounting a DVD without using command line11:50
ezrhinoMyrtti, can you maybe help me and look at my grub on pastebin?11:50
whiskers75gordonjcp: with rEFIt?11:50
gordonjcpor refind rather than refit11:50
gordonjcpyou should be using refind these days11:50
Myrttithe fact that I'm an op means that I'm skilled at being an op, not necessarily that I'm skilled with fixing whatever problems you've got on your Ubuntu, sorry guys11:51
whiskers75gordonjcp: 'Starting legacy loader (\n) Using load options `USB` (\n) Error: Not Found returned from legacy loader (\n) Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath'11:51
kkkkkkkkkhmm, Myrtti thanks11:51
whiskers75where (\n) is a new line11:51
ezrhinoMyrtti, okay ty anyway11:51
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gordonjcpwhiskers75: odd11:52
gordonjcpwhiskers75: this is what I used -> http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/11:52
MarkDaviesWell, mysqlhotcopy works... but only if the password is given in a comandline, effectively enforcing me to show it to anybody who just happens to wish browse processes being run with "ps" command...11:52
ezrhinono one has helped on my forum post or in any ubuntu help chat. im willing t o paypal for support at this point11:52
MarkDavies*wish to11:52
whiskers75gordonjcp: Maybe use a GRUB disc?11:53
ezrhinowhiskers75, can we maybe speak next when you are done with that user?11:54
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whiskers75ezrhino: sure, go ahead11:55
whiskers75What I've tried so far: USB (dd/unetbootin) with rEFIt (failed to boot unetbootin, did not appear with dd) and Option key (neither appeared)11:56
ezrhinoi think i have a issue with font in the grub, perhaps the way its written. can you take a look at my grub in pastebin? I also have a screen-image to show the issue i am having11:56
whiskers75oh, I can't help there11:57
whiskers75gordonjcp: any ideas?11:57
ezrhinoi  dont know the defualt font name for the grub, do you?11:57
ezrhinoperhaps you know of a way to just reset grub back to what it was before i meddled ? whiskers7511:58
whiskers75ezrhino: reinstall it?11:59
Ben64ezrhino: why did you ping me?11:59
ezrhinohi Ben, you helped me before so i wondered if you were here. i am having truoble i thinkis simple fix for someone with knowledge Ben6412:00
Ben64well the best way to get help is to provide all details to the entire channel, and if someone knows they will respond12:00
ezrhinoi guess no one knows, they havnt responded unless i singled them out :/12:01
ezrhinowhiskers75, how would i reistall grub and not break my duel boot?12:01
Ben64scrolling back through the log, you have yet to provide any details12:01
whiskers75ezrhino: I DON'T KNOW!12:01
ubottuezrhino,: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub212:02
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ezrhinoty cfhowlett is this someone a total noob would find easy to do?12:03
ezrhinoty whiskers7512:03
ezrhinoty cfhowlett yes i had read that post and i couldnt find or didnt understand :/ ill keep trying12:04
xondkhey, I need a quick and simple way to get my files from my remote ubuntu server, preferably something I can install quickly get the files and then remove again since the server is getting shut down12:08
xondkany suggestions?12:08
bekksxondk: copy your files using scp12:09
whiskers75xondk: scp or ssh+rsync12:09
cfhowlettezrhino, bear in mind that even if you scrambe the grub, your ubuntu is installed.  do NOT think the fix is to reinstall.12:10
ezrhinocfhowlett, that makes me feel better. If i just delete the grub will it remake it like it was before i fiddled?12:10
cfhowlettezrhino, don't delete it.  reinstall it per the instructions12:10
xondkdoes scp work with windows? its from ubuntu to windows pc12:10
ezrhinookay im trying to understand them, any chance making a mistake ill get into more trouble and not be able to boot and come back here to chat?12:11
bekksxondk: "WinSCP".12:11
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cfhowlettezrhino, worst case: boot the live usb session and come back.12:11
ezrhinocfhowlett, crud, dont have usb12:11
cfhowlettezrhino, :)12:12
ezrhinocfhowlett, interesed in connecting via teamviewer for a tip? lol12:12
ezrhinocfhowlett, paypal lol12:12
ezrhinoi mean a gratuity lol12:12
DrGrovThis is perhaps a OT topic but I am running 13.10 on my dad's new computer.12:13
DrGrovI am trying with this, http://www.logilink.com/showproduct/AD0008.htm?seticlanguage=en, a bidirectional IDE/SATA converter to get my dad's old IDE to show up on the new computer since it does not have IDE connectors. Any ideas on how to connect it? Tested quite a few times but does not get the job done.12:13
xondkomg, simple, easy, thanks a ton guys12:14
jesiHello. I need help.12:15
DrGrovI do not know how to get the power to the USB it has. But I patiently waiting for any kind of help :)12:16
MonkeyDustjesi  let's hear it12:16
jesiI just freshly installed Ubuntu13.10 on an Asus and in the first boot it only shows a purple screen and it stays there forever.12:16
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jesiIm not a expert.12:17
jesiCan I post links here? I found a discussion with same problem but I dont know must of the terms used.12:18
ezrhinocfhowlett, this is in that link GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT but its not in the grub and that was the only thing on that page that even seemed like it would apply to my issue, any other ideas?12:20
mayankmadani just uninstalled nginx using sudo apt-get purge nginx12:21
mayankmadanthen installed it using sudo apt-get install nginx12:21
mayankmadanbut i cant get rid of the configurations and settings from the previously installed nginx12:21
mayankmadanany help?12:21
wotan147folks I have a desktop 12.04 and a notbeook 12.04 that I have upgrade to saucy. I can't ssh from one to another anymore now. Does anyone has an idea?12:22
bekksmayankmadan: Uninstall it, delete your modified configurations, install it.12:22
bekkswotan147: Check wether ssh is up and running on the target computer.12:22
wotan147bekks yes it is12:23
cfhowlettezrhino, I don't have enough expertise with grub to say - sorry12:23
wotan147(running on both computer and I can't ssh bothside anymore)12:25
bekkswotan147: Then clarify "I cant" please - what are you doing exactly, and which error message do you get?12:25
wotan147I launch : ssh -X max@
mayankmadan_bekks, how can i get default configuration file for nginx?12:27
wotan147and after a while I get a ssh: connect to host port 22: Connection timed out12:27
bekkswotan147: Then use ssh -v or -vv or -vvv to see whats wrong.12:27
MonkeyDustmayankmadan_  look for a hidden config folder in your home folder12:27
jesiHave this problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/371773/ubuntu-13-10-boots-into-blank-purple-screen-after-fresh-install but I dont know how to do the nomodeset part12:30
MonkeyDustjesi  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313212:31
HtfuAnyone encounterd a "Secure Boot Violation" before? It sais "Invalid signature detected. If this error presists, seek technical assistace."12:34
HtfuSo im seeking technical assistance :)12:34
MonkeyDust!details | Htfu12:34
ubottuHtfu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:34
cfhowlettHtfu, that error message is coming from Ubuntu?12:34
Htfu2 sec, ill make a pastebin, so i dont spam.12:35
shreddingHey all.12:35
Ben64if i had to guess, i'd say its from the uefi system he's trying to boot from, but secureboot isn't having it12:35
shreddingI have two servers and can login to both via ssh from my machine, but i cannot ssh from one server to another (want to do rsync).12:35
shreddingI can't as well ping the other server.12:35
shreddingAnd that's where my knowledge about networks end.12:35
shreddingWhat could be a possible cause?12:36
cfhowlettBen64, agreed12:36
ubottushredding,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server12:36
HtfuMonkeyDust, cfhowlett http://paste.ubuntu.com/6813602/12:36
shreddingcfhowlett: okay, thx12:37
cfhowlettHtfu, so it WAS working and now  - isn't.  Too strange.  I'd guess the windows recovery update scrambed your setup.  How to fix?  Hell, I don't know. install again?12:38
Htfuyeah, might just be. I belive it is a bios-update that fucked it up.12:39
HtfuJust seem like the "fast boot" option is stuck. I have disabled it, but i still cant boot choose a boot-from-usb option - witch should be enabled when the fast boot is disabled12:39
cfhowlettHtfu, that could do it.  uefi dual boot is a delicate environment...12:40
Htfutell me about it. A few more weeks on linux and my guess is there will be only one os on my machine.12:41
cloudgeeksudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 9392 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT12:41
cloudgeekit is not opening a port12:41
cloudgeekI also tried manually12:42
cloudgeekcan body help me in opening a port ubuntu12:42
Ampelbeincloudgeek: That command you posted looks good to me.12:45
Ampelbeincloudgeek: Do you actually have a program running that is listening on port 9392?12:46
ezrhinocfhowlett, solved the issue but ty for your help, ty to anyone else that helped as well. I chose the "delete font" from the GRUB Customizer and this inserted the default font and im fine now. Be well12:50
ezrhinoGRUB Customizer is confusing but so cool12:50
cfhowlettezrafree, so easy a caveman could do it.  Glad you worked it out.12:50
ezrhinoyep just needed fire to see the solution ;)12:52
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parapanhi everyone - is someone experienced with configuring tor as a relay ???13:05
wsp1Anyone tried installing a low-latency kernel for Mint?13:05
bekkswsp1: We dont know, ask the Mint support.13:05
k1l!mint | wsp113:06
ubottuwsp1: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org13:06
wsp1It's Ubuntu based, so most likely a ubuntu Kernel, no?13:06
bekkswsp1: No.13:07
antifaneed some help13:07
wsp1@ubottu thank!13:07
k1lwsp1: no need for discussion about that. mint uses another update system so please ask the mint guys13:07
Pessimist!ask | antifa13:07
ubottuantifa: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:07
antifaso why does ubuntu load my cd-s but not my dvd-s ?13:08
antifaI can read or wrighr cd-s just fine but I can't open or wright or read dvd's13:08
antifaso ?13:09
k1lantifa: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs13:10
guest9393Using Lubuntu 13.04.  Lubuntu Software Center aborted when downloading 1GB worth of packages.  The packages didn't install but I can see them in /var/cache/apt.  How to install them (I don't want to download them again if possible.)13:10
bekksguest9393: Which software did you try to install.13:11
parapanhi everyone - is someone experienced with configuring tor as a relay ???13:11
guest9393bekks, over 1GB of games.13:11
Pessimistguest9393, when you use apt-get again it shouldn't download everything all over again13:11
bekks!tor | parapan13:12
ubottuparapan: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl13:12
cfhowlettguest9393, download will check your cache and go after the missing components13:12
guest9393problem is, I downloaded 83 games, now I have to apt-get them all again?13:12
parapanbekks: so nice; I need some help configuring the relay anly ....I've already installed tor13:12
cfhowlettguest9393, if those games are in your download cache they will NOT download again.13:13
guest9393chrhowlett, I realize that, but I'll have to "apt-get" 83 games all over again which is going to take a while.   Is there a way to auto-configure the whole lot ?13:13
bekksguest9393: Nope.13:14
cfhowlettguest9393, inadvisable even if possible.13:14
bekksguest9393: you have to select your 83 games again.13:14
antifak1l i can't load blanks to wright to13:14
bekksantifa: You dont "load" or "mount" them, if they are blank.13:18
antifait dosen't sees them in any burning program it only says to load a dvd or cd13:19
bekksantifa: Did you try k3b?13:20
antifaI mea yes13:22
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rustuptwistif an older ubuntu distro is loaded on a computer can the latest version of another distro, e.g. Edubuntu be downloaded onto it so that the final result is the latest Edubuntu?13:26
jribrustuptwist: just upgrade your ubuntu.  You can install the edubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu.13:26
bekksrustuptwist: Which "older version"?13:26
rustuptwistjrib:  not sure what you mean 'just upgrade'  'on ubuntu'13:27
rustuptwistbekks:  Jaunty13:27
bekksrustuptwist: Which version (not codename) is that?13:27
cfhowlettrustuptwist, no13:27
cfhowlettrustuptwist, you'd have to upgrade to the latest distro AND add the other distro-desktop packages13:28
MonkeyDustjaunty was 9.0413:28
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.13:29
k1lrustuptwist: either you make a new install of edubuntu or you make all the upgrades that are betweeen jaunty and the actual latest supported ubuntu verison13:29
k1lrustuptwist: hint: new install is way faster13:29
cfhowlettk1l, WAY easier to just download the latest edubuntu and clean install13:29
jribrustuptwist: edubuntu is ubuntu with specific packages installed that aren't installed by default on "ubuntu" (i.e., the edubuntu-desktop package).  So you can upgrade your ubuntu jaunty to a later version (hopefully a supported version).  Then you can install the edubuntu-desktop package to get the packages from edubuntu.  As jaunty is really old, it will be faster for you to back up and do a reinstall13:29
jribrather than upgrade step by step13:29
k1lcfhowlett: yep13:29
MonkeyDustrustuptwist  http://ubuntuone.com/434GupdpZzDds9LCEcPyH513:30
bekksThe update path would be 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10. It will take ages.13:30
jribif he just wants to get to 12.04, it's not too bad13:30
jriband if you waited 4 years to consider upgrading it probably makes sense to stay on LTS releases :P13:31
{Civil}Trying to setup bind9 to use a NS for my site, seems to be taking ages/not working =\13:31
MasterRoot24Has anyone got any ideas why I would be getting the following errors logged? "Jan 25 13:25:15 Server1 afpd[446]: pam_winbind(netatalk:auth): request wbcLogonUser failed: WBC_ERR_AUTH_ERROR, PAM error: PAM_USER_UNKNOWN (10), NTSTATUS: NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER, Error message was: No such user"13:32
rustuptwistif always been a little behind the times, lol13:33
MasterRoot24The user does exist - I can SSH in as the user and if I retry the connection a few more times, it will allow login13:33
Myth_noobanyone had any experience on getting an IR remote control to work since the drivers were moved to the kernal?  I'm stuck.13:34
MasterRoot24pam_winbind debug doesn't shed much light on the issue, just tells me the user is not found.13:34
rustuptwistok. i thought the updgrade center would bypass all the others and upgrade to the latest, not go step by step through each one. Good to know. Thanks13:34
MonkeyDustMyth_noob  what's IR ?13:35
bekksinfrared remote control.13:35
OKeeHi is there any difference between  "isc-dhcp-server" and the old one  or it's  only a change in names ???13:36
OKeeand wich one should i use now ??13:37
MasterRoot24OKee: Not that I am aware - the old and isc* versions work just the same for me. I believe that it was simply renamed pre-12.04 LTS, but I may be mistaken there.13:42
rustuptwistso im using the 12.04.03 mad-desktop disc to install onto a compaq laptop (win7 64 bit 2-3yrs old) but it keeps rebooting during install back to windows, disc is clean. wondering if I should try a i386.iso disc instead?13:42
MasterRoot24rustuptwist: Check your RAM using the memcheck tool on the Ubuntu LiveCD13:43
MasterRoot24rustuptwist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest13:43
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rustuptwistMasterRoot24: the laptop is NOT currently running Ubuntu, just win713:46
MasterRoot24rustuptwist: Hence, I suggested running the memcheck from a *LiveCD* :)13:47
cfhowlettrustuptwist, mad-desktop?  NO idea what that is ...13:47
larry_1st time in chat, hope i 'm doing it correctly. i'm new t to linux had ubuntu12.04.4 working fine. a utility popup came up for cleaning unnecessary  files big mistake now i have no keyboard.i'm booting from hard drive and can't set boot to cd so i can wipe and reinstall.my typing is using 'onboard' keyboard will get any info u need if any1 has an idea.  thanks 4 any help13:47
rustuptwistcfhowlett:  AMD. it was a typo.13:48
cfhowlettrustuptwist, that makes sense now13:48
MasterRoot24larry_: Does your keyboard not respond in the PC's BIOS?13:50
larry_no responce at all13:50
MasterRoot24larry_:  That would suggest that the fault lies with the keyboard itself, and maybe not just Ubuntu. Do you have another keyboard to check this with, or maybe another PC to try the keyboard on?13:53
MonkeyDustlarry_  is a wireless keyboard?13:55
MonkeyDustis it*13:55
larry_yes i've tried two others that i know work. it hard wired13:55
Myth_noobdoes anyone in here have experience with ir-keytable and getting remote controls to work? really struggling here.14:00
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larry_MONKEYDUST all 3 are wired keyb'ds . no response from any of them14:01
cfhowlettMunster, greetigs14:06
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Munsterhi cfhowlett14:08
cfhowlettMunster, hey.  what's your ubuntu issue?14:09
MasterRoot24larry_ Are the keyboards that you have tried USB / PS/214:09
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: run the Mem test. the two options i have from LiveCD are Try Ubuntu and Install Ubuntu. I can run the Mem Test from which one?14:10
Munstercfhowlett, it seems to be a problem with 13.10 images not booting on usb , trying dd to see if that wiil work instead of unetbootin or disk creator. think problem lies with the actual image14:12
MasterRoot24larry_ So, you have tried the PS/2 keyboards on another PC and they work ok there, just not on this one PC?14:12
cfhowlettMunster, md5sum?14:12
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows14:12
Munstercfhowlett,  md5sum is correct14:13
OKeeHi can any one guide me  i want to install isc-dhcp-server i am following this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/isc-dhcp-server14:13
cfhowlettMunster, try a different USB.  they do fail14:14
marzHi, is there a way for me to send a message to a Windows client using his IP Address?14:14
MasterRoot24larry_ If that's the case, then I would check your HID settings in BIOS, but I suspect you can't access them either. Maybe try resetting motherboard CMOS, however this is way off-topic as the issue is not isolated to Ubuntu. Maybe try Google on how to reset motherboard settings, then try the keyboards again.14:15
MasterRoot24rustuptwist I'll try and check this for you now with a LiveCD14:15
Munstercfhowlett, tried a couple other distros with it already, the stick is fine14:15
cfhowlettMunster, own.  and the md5sum checks.  weird.  maybe try the mini ?14:16
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:16
hitsujiTMOmarz you used to be able to with older windows using net send: smbclient -M "Message"14:16
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: im booting from the LiveCD with the shift key down, hoping that will call up GRUB. its taking its time14:17
marzhitsujiTMO: what do you mean you used to? isn't it working now? "smbclient -M "Message" <<<< I was reading about this command but can't understand it, where do I put the IP address of the computer?14:17
larry_the keyboards work on other comp (wind 7 home ed.) also worked fine till i used that utility to clean unnecessary files. if i could just reboot from a cd i'd able to feinstall i tried to rdp wind7 to ubuntu xrdp but couldnt get conectioon ggoing14:18
MasterRoot24rustuptwist When you PC boots from the LiveCD , the first thing you should see is a little keyboard and a little person next to it (Implying accessibility options). Hit ESC at this point and you should see "Test Memory" as an option to choose.14:19
hkrMy xubuntu UI seems messed up. It looks like a windows classic theme. http://is.gd/0RFoae14:20
hkrHelp D:14:20
larry_sorry aboutmy typing - good thing i'm not ur secretary!14:21
cfhowletthkr, style icons fonts and settings - play around14:21
hitsujiTMOmarz: well, being able to send a text message that forcably created a dialog on the target machine is considered a vulnerability. to add an ip: smbclient -M "Message" -I ip.of.target.machine    I'm not sure if net send exists beyound win xp anymore tho14:21
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: that is not what happens with this CD 12.04.03 AMDdesktop.iso It goes to the UBUNtu background with languages on the left and Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu. I tried booting with shift key down as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest but GRUB did not appear.14:21
hkrcfhowlett: What?14:21
hkrThats not what I meant.14:21
hkrSee the theme configuration window?14:22
marzhitsujiTMO:  It gives me an error though "ERROR  NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL"14:22
hkrit has a different color background and buttos.14:22
hkrsome other windows like the update manager look the same. with old style windows14:22
rustuptwistanyway to do the MEMTest from Terminal?14:23
rustuptwistlaptop has been booted from LiveCD14:23
hitsujiTMOmarz: http://ubuntuswitch.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/nautilus-slow-network-or-network-does-not-work/14:23
MasterRoot24rustuptwist Take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/187573/memtest-with-ubuntu-12-04-live-cd14:24
manikantaHow to add repository ?14:29
manikantamy mentor said to add http://ppa.launchpad.net/georepublic/pgrouting/ubuntu as repo :? any idea ?14:30
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marzhitsujiTMO: Thanks, I was hoping there would be a built-in program for it. hehehe14:30
ubottumanikanta,: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:30
{Civil}I'm getting "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket /var/mysql/mysql.sock(2)"14:30
manikanta sudo add-apt-repository ppa:http://ppa.launchpad.net/georepublic/pgrouting/ubuntu is it correct way ?14:31
manikanta@ ubottu : help ?14:33
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: tried that doesnt want to work. Maybe I am doing something wrong...14:33
Merandushello, i have installed ubuntu 13.1 on a vm. i cant use service command at all. it says  start: unknown job: <service.   or,   stop: unknown job: <service>14:36
MasterRoot24rustuptwist Sadly, it seems that way :p - maybe try downloading a pure memtest LiveCD and burning it14:36
MasterRoot24Merandus Can you provide an example service command that's failing so we can check?14:37
MasterRoot24rustuptwist http://www.memtest.org/download/5.01/memtest86+-5.01.iso.zip14:38
MerandusMasterRoot24: service ssh restart14:38
MerandusMasterRoot24:  stop: unknown job: ssh14:38
MerandusMasterRoot24: start: unknown job: ssh14:38
larry_master root/monkey dust shouldd have mentioned during the  boot process  f+num lock llight blink14:39
manikantathere anyone ?14:39
hitsujiTMO{Civil}: looks like the wrong socket path. very unusual to have a /var/mysql dir. what are you using that gave that error?14:39
MasterRoot24Merandus I'm not up to date on 13.1, but maybe it's been renamed to something like openssh.14:40
hitsujiTMOMerandus: sshd14:40
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: here is what happens when I try to install. it loads (somethings) then spits out the disc saying "Remove installation media (if any) then press enter"    Well of course this kills the install because w/out the CD there is no install!14:40
MerandusMasterRoot24:  no it has not been renamed.  /etc/init.d/ssh exist14:40
MerandushitsujiTMO: no, it says service does not exist14:41
MasterRoot24Merandus Try `find /etc/init.d/ -name ssh`14:41
Merandusinitctl sounds broken.. i can't just   start/stop services at all14:41
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: Im referring to the 12.04.03 CD (yes I know i havent mem tested, yet, unable to so far14:41
MasterRoot24Merandus ok, not just isolated to SSH then?14:41
manikantahow to add this as repo in ubuntu http://ppa.launchpad.net/georepublic/pgrouting/ubuntu precise .....exact command please ?14:41
MerandusMasterRoot24: yeah,  having same problem with vmware tools service, and  pulseaudio, and more14:42
MasterRoot24rustuptwist I understand, but from the situation you described (system is 2-3 yrs old, random crash during install) my first port of call would be to check RAM14:42
hitsujiTMOmanikanta: ppa:georepublic/pgrouting    be careful, it replaces a core component (cmake)14:43
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: Wow stuff happens when 'you dont follow directions'  So instead of taking out disc and pushing enter, I pushed the disc back in and hit enter and lo and behold the menu came up :) odd So anyway mem test is happening now (finally!)14:43
MasterRoot24Merandus ouch. Agreed, service control seems to be messed up with your install there. I'm not sure what to try next - maybe someone else can chime in?14:44
MasterRoot24rustuptwist Great stuff...14:44
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MerandusMasterRoot24: yeah i hope so B(14:45
hitsujiTMOMerandus: try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall sysvinit-utils14:45
Psil0Cybinhey guys I am running a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Server, and when running the command free -m I see that my swap is 0, total, 0 used, 0 free.....clearly something is wrong right? Like my swap is not being used?14:46
MonkeyDustPsil0Cybin  try swapon -a14:47
llutzPsil0Cybin: check "swapon -s" if you have enabled any swap at all14:47
Psil0CybinDoes not look like it, llutz: swapon -s14:48
Psil0Cybindisplays nothing just that...14:48
Psil0CybinI did make a swap partition though when installing the system I am a tad confused.14:48
Psil0CybinIt was a raid hard drive system with a crap softmod, so i took it all off and made 3 equal partitions...one being a swap14:48
Psil0Cybinit was one big swap, but still...14:48
MasterRoot24Psil0Cybin Do you have the swap partition in /etc/fstab?14:48
llutzPsil0Cybin: check "sudo parted -l" for the swap, add it to /etc/fstab14:48
Psil0Cybinllutz: I got this when entered "sudo parted -l" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6814607/14:49
MerandushitsujiTMO:  i did. still the same thing.14:49
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: You don't have a swap partition it looks like.14:50
Psil0Cybinrypervenche: ......really, from what I understod when I set u pthe system is I made 3 partitions 1 being the swap...and tried to raid them together...as 1 Hard drive..14:51
Psil0Cybini guess I just made a big mess right?14:51
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: Not necessarily. Are you using LVM with your RAID?14:51
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: Probably not if it's showing ext4 though on md014:52
Psil0Cybinrypervenche: I am not going to lie, I am unsure..I know hitsujiTMO was one of the peopel who helped me set up my system, but eventually he had to go and someone else got frustrated and just told me to rush through the install, and get it over with to just stop dealing with it.14:52
Psil0Cybinrypervenche: is this something I can fix, and just alter a few lines and get a swap going? or would I need to completely repartition, what I did...14:52
Psil0Cybinusually I never have these problems, it was my first time dealing with a raid system (3 hard drives) trying to get them running as one.14:53
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: You can shrink your ext4 partition and create a swap on it, but you'll need to do it from a live cd14:53
llutzPsil0Cybin: workaround if the rest of the system runs ok: just create a swap-file and add that to your fstab. performanceloss is marginal14:53
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: Or yes, you could just use a swapfile.14:54
Psil0Cybinllutz: yea the rest of the system runs okay, do you perhaps have a guide so i can get this going :)14:54
Psil0CybinIts just for a work server, so I can fix it later..14:54
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: It's very easy to do :)14:54
FireStormsWhat tools, like rkhunter, would a paranoid sys admin run daily via cron?14:54
Psil0Cybinrypervenche: amazing!! thank you guys, you gave me so much hope...another question while we are on this topic so I learn, if I did not end up fixing this issue...what owuld be the downfall of not having a swap?14:54
llutzPsil0Cybin: like http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/14:54
llutzPsil0Cybin: without swap your system will kill processes if it runs out of memory14:55
Psil0Cybinllutz: but if I am close by, I would just restart the system and it would be fine again?14:56
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: You want swap.14:56
Psil0Cybinof course, yea14:56
tajamulsir i hav einstalled ubuntu 13.10 on my system but it is working very slowly as if in slow motion14:56
llutzPsil0Cybin: create some 500mb swapfile and you'll be fine14:56
llutzPsil0Cybin: if you see you need more swap, buy RAM14:56
tajamulearlier versions worked fine particularly 11.1014:56
Psil0Cybinokay another thing, I only found this out after I set up NGINX, PHP, Mysql, and a CRM :) LOL Would this cause any data loss? also looking at my partitions, could I not utalize one of the previous partitions i made as a swap.14:56
Psil0Cybinllutz: would I just exucute this command "# dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile1 bs=1024 count=524288" or do I need to double check, if it is accurate for my system?14:58
Psil0CybinI am just paranoid to cause data loss :( damage.14:58
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: There is no room on the disk for a new partition if you used it all for your ext4 partition. You would either need to shrink the partition to make room for another one, or create a swapfile which you can do on the fly.14:58
llutzPsil0Cybin: how much RAM do you have?14:58
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Meranduswell, i do not understand at all, but i found the reason why   it's not working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218144114:58
Meranduslike i said i didn't understand why sudo works, while being root does not work.14:59
Psil0Cybinsays "Mem:          8017 " llutz14:59
llutzPsil0Cybin: just start with that 512MB file and check swap-usage from time to time. you always can add more swap-files or create a bigger one14:59
Psil0Cybinalright so I would just follow that guide to a TEE type thing and I should be fine?14:59
tajamulIntel® Atom™ CPU D410 @ 1.66GHz × 214:59
Psil0CybinI think think its a waste of a 1 TB hard drive that is not going to be used :P15:00
HEOOHow to create a database with    isc-dhcp-server   in ubuntu   please help15:00
Psil0Cybinfor that useless swap i thought i setup15:00
tajamulVESA: Intel(r)PineView Graphics15:00
HEOOHow to create a database with    isc-dhcp-server   in ubuntu   please help15:00
llutzPsil0Cybin: most likeley, depends on the usage of your system. just monitor your memory-usage15:00
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: Check our private message too, btw.15:00
tajamul313.9 GB15:00
HEOOHow to create a database with    isc-dhcp-server   in ubuntu   please help15:00
tajamul992.8 MiB15:01
HEOOPLZ help15:01
hitsujiTMOtajamul: that apu isn't capable of rendering unity cleanly. try another desktop environment15:01
llutzHEOO: the lease-database will be created automatically15:01
tajamulbut ubuntu 13.10 hardly supports other environments other than unity15:02
hitsujiTMOtajamul: you can install xfce, lxde, or any other env15:02
tajamulis there any short cut or do i have to download all a freash15:03
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tajamulhow can i switch to xfce on already installed ubuntu 13.1015:04
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: that mem test sure is long On Test #7 now...15:04
MasterRoot24rustuptwist Any errors so far?15:05
Pessimisttajamul, install xubuntu-desktop15:05
tajamulhave i to download some paticular files or have i to download it a freash15:05
hitsujiTMOtajamul: install xfce. choose xfce as xsession in lightdm15:05
HEOOi have a tutorial of creating a database in backtrack  using dhcp3-server and i want to apply it in ubuntu  please help15:05
hitsujiTMOtajamul: in software center or with apt-get15:06
HEOOi have a tutorial of creating a database in backtrack  using dhcp3-server and i want to apply it in ubuntu  please help15:06
k1l!patience | HEOO15:06
ubottuHEOO: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/15:06
VLanXI have problems while monting partitions with correct rights, please can someone help me?   http://pastebin.com/jeFPPpLr15:08
rustuptwistMasterRoot24:  nope not a one. :)15:09
MasterRoot24rustuptwist How much RAM do you have installed?15:09
hitsujiTMOVLanX: what type of filesystem is on /dev/sdc1 ?15:09
HEOOi want to apply this in ubuntu please help http://how-tohackwifi.com/evil-twin.html15:09
tajamulwhen i search in software  manager for xfce or xubuntu i find nothing like installing those environments15:10
tajamuli remember in earlier ubuntu versions there was option to install other environments15:11
HEOOi want to apply this in ubuntu please help http://how-tohackwifi.com/evil-twin.html15:11
llutz!patience | HEOO: install mysql-server15:11
ubottuHEOO: install mysql-server: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/15:11
k1lHEOO: no help here on that topic. there is enough documentation on this that you can read if you really want to test your own setup. if you just want to quickly hack the neighbours wifi you wont get help in here15:11
HEOONO its mine15:12
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tajamulso is it sudo apt get install xfce15:12
k1lHEOO: then take the time and read the documentation of the programms you want to use15:12
hitsujiTMOtajamul: or xubuntu-desktop if you want the full xfce stack in xubuntu15:12
HEOOwhere can i find it , any useful liks please15:13
larry_thank you  for ur time + trouble -- i'll try again later15:13
VLanXhitsujiTMO: ext215:13
hitsujiTMOtajamul: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop15:14
darius93do anyone know why webgl works in chromuim but not chrome?15:14
VLanXhitsujiTMO: I've chowned and chmodded the folder, recursively, but the mount command overrides what I've set.15:14
jypiecheck the version perhaps? darius9315:14
darius93what do you mean jypie?  its the latest version of chrome15:15
bekksVLanX: first mount, then use chmod/chown.15:15
rustuptwistMasterRoot24:  not sure, its my sons. He wrote down 2.6 so its prob 4gb15:15
pikarenis rpm superior to deb?15:16
VLanXbekks: ok let me try that15:16
tajamulUnable to locate package xubuntu15:16
bekkspikaren: No.15:16
jypieo then nvm15:16
CapCraHi people! I have a little issue that Google can't solve, maybe you can. I (admin) want to block flash on all users (including: no videos like Youtube or similars, no games... I want all Flash out, not just ads). Any idea how?15:16
bekksCapCra: Uninstall flah player.15:17
darius93CapCra: uninstall flash15:17
darius93and youtube has html5 videos now15:17
CapCraYou must be kidding me. It is that simple?15:17
darius93with fallback being flash15:17
CapCraI feel stupid15:17
hitsujiTMOVLanX: try adding the option uid=gid=`id -u sysadmin`15:18
darius93flash is soon to be dead while html5 rise up15:18
pikarenbut some rpm based distributions are very successful in commercial use15:18
pikarendeb not so much15:18
k1lpikaren: that has nothing to do with deb or rpm15:18
llutzpikaren: not a matter of the package-system15:18
bekksdarius93: that will happen when either diaspora is actually being used. :P15:19
VLanXhitsujiTMO: if chmodding and chowning after mount as suggested by bekks it works, I will also try what you suggested in a second time cause I've a copy process going on at the moment. Thank you guys.15:19
theminorityHey,I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.0415:20
theminorityIt doesn't detect my graphics plate (82945g)15:20
theminorityCan anybody help me?15:21
pikarenso why do the successful distributions happen to choose rpm?15:22
llutzpikaren: redhat invented and used rpm and went the professional way. debian as community-driven project did different15:22
llutz!ot | pikaren but that is not to be discussed here15:23
ubottupikaren but that is not to be discussed here: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:23
ice9how to make video chat with Yahoo?15:23
ice9in empathy and kdeim video and audio call are inactive15:23
k1lpikaren: that has nothing to do with rpm.15:24
rustuptwist"A practical Guide to Ubuntu/Linux"  by mark G Sobell. is this still the go to book on Ubuntu/linux or is there a better/newer book?15:30
rustuptwistit was written/released around the time of Gusty Gibbon(7.10), lol15:31
jhutchinsrustuptwist: On-line sources tend to be more current.15:31
llutz!manual  | rustuptwist maybe this15:32
ubotturustuptwist maybe this: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/15:32
rustuptwistjhutchins:  agreed. just need somethng i can read offline and for my son 13yrs I try to get them off the net for some hours daily/weekly.15:32
rustuptwistMasterRoot24: Mem Test passed. Complete No errors! :)15:34
compdocrustuptwist, if youre having issues with your system, you need more than one pass. Overnight is best. But its also possible the ram is ok15:35
rustuptwistcompdoc:  not sure. it was suggested cause the laptop didnt want to install ubuntu from the disc. So there were no issues to speak of. its a compaq running win7 Trying to dual/install ubuntu onto it. Worked for my other sons hp pavilion dv2000 but not on this compaq presario CQ57 laptop (AMD 64 bit)15:38
Wiz_KeeDanyone have ANY idea why in startup disk creator I pick an image of ubuntu 13.10 and it doesn't change it stays to 12.04? :\15:40
seperoCan anyone help me find a ppa for fail2ban? Google sent me to the following page, but I don't see a ppa:xxxxx/xxx ?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fail2ban15:41
jhutchinsrustuptwist: What didn't work?15:41
jhutchinsrustuptwist: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?15:41
hitsujiTMOsepero: thats not a ppa, thats the source for fail3ban in the ubuntu repos15:41
k1lsepero: click on the bottom on other versions of fail2ban15:41
hitsujiTMOsepero: why do you want a ppa?15:41
seperohitsujiTMO: because the version in repos is broke for ssh15:42
MonkeyDust!info fail2ban | sepero15:42
ubottusepero: fail2ban (source: fail2ban): ban hosts that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.10-3 (saucy), package size 105 kB, installed size 489 kB15:42
rustuptwistjhutchins:  the thing is the dvd wont install for some reason . Whenever we try to install it goes through the motions then either restarts back into win7 or it spits out the disc saying "remove disc and restart' well w/out the disc in there will be no install.15:42
seperoMonkeyDust: I don't understand why you sent me that info.15:43
MonkeyDustsepero  to show that's in the repos, you don't need a ppa15:43
hitsujiTMOsepero: i doubt its broken. More likely you're not configuring it correctly15:43
seperoMonkeyDust: It has a bug for ssh. So I need the latest version15:44
rustuptwistso Live CD is loaded. i will choose 'install ubuntu' again and see what happens this time (5 or 6th attempt) Here goes...15:45
seperok1l: thanks for the tip. I'm checking it out15:45
hitsujiTMOsepero: do you have a link to the bug report?15:45
k1lrustuptwist: some ati setups need nomodeset to work properly15:46
k1l!nomodeset | rustuptwist15:46
ubotturustuptwist: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:46
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qtgmdlqz 有中文聊天吗15:46
k1lrustuptwist: and make sure the cd is not corrupted: md5sum15:46
k1l!cn | qtgmdlqz15:46
ubottuqtgmdlqz: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw15:46
seperohitsujiTMO: no, the bug was upstream15:47
hitsujiTMOsepero: upstream has a bug tracker15:48
rustuptwistk1l:  i guess it is possible that between the install on another laptop and moving to this one it could have been corrupted, I am downloading another .iso as we speak. but it loads then chokes in the middle. that is a sign of corruption?15:48
seperohitsujiTMO: thanks for the info15:48
k1lrustuptwist: its hard to guess what the problem is. we cant see what you see.15:49
hitsujiTMOsepero: i see no ssh related bugs http://sourceforge.net/p/fail2ban/bugs/15:50
OxymoronAnyone using Emacs Eshell in here, who can help me, or point me to another channel if needed? :)15:50
seperohitsujiTMO: I never filed a bug, because it's fixed upstream. I have another Ubuntu box running with the latest fail2ban. That's how I know it's fixed15:51
rustuptwistk1l:  i get to install screen: 'Preparing to insall Ubuntu, the three conditions are checked .connected to power source, connected to internet, have a t least 4.7 gb free, Now it has moved to "installation type screen" I am choosing 'Install Ubuntu inside Windows7"15:51
hitsujiTMOOxymoron:  #emacs maybe?15:51
jeeti wish to use ubuntu on my laptop (currently running windows) and i also want to still have the windows part of it working the same. is this what i need? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows15:52
jeetalso I want to use Xubuntu15:52
OxymoronhitsujiTMO: Thanks! Also I want to know, the Unity something. I dont know the name, the icon in the upper left corner. Do you know if the search result can be removed? For instance I do NOT want to have history tracking of files last used, how to remove?15:53
seperok1l: Much appreciated your help. Looks like this one will work for me. Cheers  https://launchpad.net/~thomas-creutz/+archive/webserver15:53
rustuptwistk1l:  goes to generic ubuntu screen with dots below ubuntu. It has spit out the disc saying "please remove installation media and close the tray (if any) and Press enter"  Now if I do this it will reboot into windows. so I am going to put the disc back in the tray and hit enter and this will bring up a Menu with options such as Mem Test, etc. Perhaps from there I can choose 'Alt install' or something? What say Ye15:54
TJ-rustuptwist: I'm suspicious of that wording "Install Ubuntu inside Windows7" since it infers it will use wubi15:54
Munsterrustuptwist, wubi is not real linux install15:54
hitsujiTMOOxymoron: thats the dash. you can change those preferences in system settings -> Security & Privacy15:55
k1lrustuptwist: urgs15:55
k1lrustuptwist: dont use wubi15:55
rustuptwistTJ-:  yeah cause on my other sons it said "alongside Windows' not inside15:55
k1lrustuptwist: install ubuntu native on real partitions and not into windows. that will break soon15:55
OxymoronhitsujiTMO: Thank you! I searched almost everywhere, but havent found it myself, quite embarassing as I am a experienced Linux user :D15:56
TJ-rustuptwist: which version of Ubuntu is that? I thought wubi had been dropped some time ago15:56
hitsujiTMOTJ-: wubis still bundled in the installer15:56
rustuptwistk1l:  how. i can only choose what the install disk offers. I am waiting now on the Menu (GRUB?) to come up. I'll let you know what options it gives.15:57
Oxymoronrustuptwist: Install Ubuntu and use VirtualBox with Windows 7, or make a dual boot. I experience a LOT of issues using Wubi, the performance sucks basicly.15:57
rustuptwistTJ-: it is 12.04.03 Desktop AMD 64.iso15:57
TJ-hitsujiTMO: thanks ... rustuptwist Ahhhh, OK15:57
rustuptwistOxymoron:  yeah I am trying to. the same disc did a dual/boot install on my sons hp pavilion dv2000 2 nights ago. not sure why it is differnt on this compaq (which is an HP anyway right?15:58
devalexhi all15:58
rustuptwistTJ-:  what do you mean. Should I be using a different disc?15:58
TJ-rustuptwist: Do you want to dual-boot both Windows and Ubuntu? In which case it might be better installing natively rather than "inside Windows" which is what 'wubi' does.15:59
cristian_cHow can I add a discussion group type account in Sylpheed?15:59
Oxymoronrustuptwist: Do you know if youre using Windows MBR or GRUB?15:59
cristian_cAny ideas?15:59
rustuptwistOxymoron:  I dont know15:59
Munsterrustuptwist, compaq is an old pc , perhaps there's a hardware recognition problem15:59
devalexhi all15:59
Oxymoronrustuptwist: Tip from coach, ALWAYS install Windows first and Ubuntu last. It is possible to reverse the order, but you will get headache.15:59
k1lrustuptwist: boot the usb and not boot windows and then run the usb15:59
rustuptwistTJ-:  I want a dual boot. this is what this same disc did for my sons hp 2 nights ago16:00
TJ-rustuptwist: When you run the installer you should do it from PC start-up, booting from USB device directly into the Ubuntu installer16:00
Oxymoronrustuptwist: The problem dualbooting, there is a software called NeoSoftware I think which FROM INSIDE Windows can overwrite MBR with proper dual boot with Ubuntu.16:00
TJ-rustuptwist: From what you are describing you're running the installer from inside a Windows sessions, which will automatically use "wubi".16:01
Oxymoronrustuptwist: EasyBCD its called and company is NeoSmart Technologies ;)16:01
OxymoronhitsujiTMO: Thank you very much for pointing out the search integrity and file history thingie. Now I can finally remove search on the web, which make Dash extremely slow.16:02
TJ-Oxymoron: I tried their software this past month, both EasyRA and EasyBCD, and they both are dangerous; making absolute changes without regard for what is already there. I emailed their support but not had a response in 3 weeks now16:02
devalexhey guys i like to ask you how can i start making a new distro of linux16:03
v10energyI am looking for an ftp server that will allow me to add custom users and point them to certain folders on the system16:03
rustuptwistTJ-:  we set it to boot from the CD Not sure why it wont. How can I force it you guys, oxymoron, k1l16:03
k1ldevalex: that is quite offtopic here. ask in ##linux please16:03
devalexthanks dude16:03
OxymoronTJ-: I NEVER experienced any problem at all. But yes its possible to overwrite MBR or GRUB "MBR".16:03
devalexI am new to irc16:03
TJ-rustuptwist: Is the Ubuntu installer on a CD? From what others were saying I thought you were using a USB16:03
rustuptwistwhether from USb or DVD it does the same thing, reboots back into windows16:04
TJ-Oxymoron: It wasn't that side, it was its over-writing of the BCD store without regard for what was in it.16:04
Oxymoronrustuptwist: What happens when you boot? Do you get any cursor or something, which it usually does when booting from CD.16:04
rustuptwistTJ-:  this time it is DVD, the other night we tried USB, was not working16:04
rustuptwistOxymoron:  yeah a cursor , then it starts up into Ubuntu16:05
TJ-rustuptwist: OK ... that suggests the PCs BIOS is ignoring the boot-order you're giving it... Try entering the BIOS set-up at power-on and ensuring that CD/DVD and USB are listed ahead of the hard disk, in the boot order options16:05
OxymoronTJ-: I dont recognize that problem. But yes I can imagine it causing problems if you dont know what youre doing.16:05
OxymoronTJ-: Also, Windows 8 has some weird BIOS thing, freaking up everything even more :D16:05
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TJ-Oxymoron: Ermm, I *do* know what I'm doing, which is why I was able to deduce and fix the EasyRA and EasyBCD issues.16:05
Oxymoronrustuptwist: Yes, that seems correct. THen when it starts Ubuntu, you can just go into live mode or directly install?16:06
TJ-Oxymoron: The other issue I have with them is I made a request for the source-code as per the GNU GPL and so far they've ignored it.16:06
rustuptwistOxymoron:  it acts as if it is but then it spits out the disc and says 'remove from tray and push enter" well if the disc is gone then there will be no install16:07
OxymoronTJ-: Hmm, thats a shame :/ Well I never use it anymore, I am using Linux straight through now, Windows sucks.16:08
ThoMehave a wifi card  Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 3x3 AGN and only 2 MB/sec in my interncal network.16:08
ThoMewith a other windows pc i have 20 mb/sek16:08
Oxymoronrustuptwist: Yes when installation is done, it always say remove disc from tray and press enter?16:08
TJ-Oxymoron: me too, but I was trying to fix a dual-boot with Win7 in EFI mode, where the Win7 install had been moved from one HDD to another, to make space :)16:08
TJ-Oxymoron: I eventually fixed the registry up manually, but I had been hoping that EasyRA would save me time :)16:09
TJ-rustuptwist: So, lets be clear on your situation. You boot from the DVD and get a menu, you choose either "Try Ubuntu" or "Install", and almost immediately, and without choosing installation options or spending 20 minutes waiting for it to install, you get the "Remove disk" message?16:10
OxymoronTJ-: Hehe yeah that sucks :P I only use Windows 7 in Virtualbox if I really need it. However really slow with 4 GB DDR3 ... which it shouldnt, but does anyway. My computer freezes when trying to use VisualStudiio in Virtualbox :D16:11
rustuptwistOxymoron:  THAT message comes way too soon and installation is not done16:11
rustuptwistTJ-:  no . i choose the inside windows option and only like 3 mins at most pass16:11
TJ-Oxymoron: that's why my partner needed the dual-boot; his Uni requires him to use Visual Studio 2012 for c++16:11
OxymoronTJ-: My tip is to wipe out Windows as fast as possible and have an alternative Windowscomputer, if you REALLT must have Windows sometimes, like Apple crappy shit do not have Itunes native for Linux ... seriously16:12
Oxymoronrustuptwist: Really? I guess your cd is corrupt then. I would install on a USB stick or burn a new CD or DVD.16:12
Oxymoronrustuptwist: use slow burning speed.16:13
tajamuli have recently installed xubuntu will it change my ubuntu experience in any way other than graphics16:13
TJ-rustuptwist: OK ... to be even clearer then, with your other son's PC that also installed "inside Windows". You can tell by whether when it boots the Window boot-loader lists Windows and Ubuntu (that's 'inside') or you get the GRUB boot menu with Ubuntu listed first and Windows usually last16:13
OxymoronTJ-: I was forced using VisualStudio for my work and for school. In the end I used my other Windows 8 computer (My girlfriend usually uses it) and runned VisualStudio there :D16:13
rustuptwistOxymoron:  ok I will try that, but like I said. we used the same CD 2 nights ago for my sons hp pavilion dv2000 which is older than this compaq (circa 2011)16:13
Oxymoronrustuptwist: Are you swedish btw? :P16:14
Rosbuntucan i get the source of kernel?16:14
Oxymoronrustuptwist: Which Ubuntu version on the CD?16:14
OxymoronRosbuntu: Yes, google it?16:15
TJ-rustuptwist: I'm trying to get a clear picture of what you did on the 'well behaved' PC so we can help you on this 'misbehaving' one16:15
rustuptwistTJ-:  on my other sons it was not 'inside' the option clearly said 'alongside' after the install it boots and gives a choice of what to run ubuntu, windows,16:15
RosbuntuOxymoron,  sure?16:15
TJ-rustuptwist: And that's what you want now?16:15
TJ-rustuptwist: OK... boot the CD again now, and choose "Try Ubuntu" from the boot menu. An Ubuntu Live session will start and eventually load a full graphical desktop... Once there, there is an icon on the desktop "Install Ubuntu" which will do what you want16:16
OxymoronRosbuntu: Yes I am sure, downloaded source code myself long time ago. It is open source.16:16
tajamuli have just now stitched to xubuntu will it change my experience of ubuntu in any way other than graphics16:16
MonkeyDustRosbuntu  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile16:16
RosbuntuOxymoron,  r u a good coder16:16
Rosbuntui mean i want to make drivers for my usb modem16:17
rustuptwist1sorry someone pulled the plug on the router16:17
Rosbuntuhow do i do that easily16:17
OxymoronRosbuntu: Yes, pretty good. ALmost done with engineer in computer science and programming since 15 years back :P16:17
Rosbuntuoh god16:17
Rosbuntuim a business gradute16:17
OxymoronRosbuntu: However I never been doing any drivers for linux kernel :P16:17
Rosbuntudont know programming16:17
rustuptwist1TJ-:  yeah. that's fine. is there another option?16:17
Rosbuntuohh thats demotivated16:17
rustuptwist1Oxymoron:  Not swedish, why do you ask?16:18
tajamuli just now switched to xubuntu because of problems with 13.10 will it change my experience of ubuntu in any way other than graphics16:18
OxymoronRosbuntu: You probably need some C and Assembly skills :P I can, but Linux kernel code is like millions of lines code :P16:18
* Rosbuntu is afraid16:18
rustuptwist1left the room I did not16:18
Oxymoronrustuptwist1: Many swedes using HP and Compaq. My advice, stay away from Sony, Dell, Compaq, HP and Samsung.16:18
Rosbuntuok how do i edit some one else´s code16:18
OxymoronRosbuntu: if youre not able to code I wouldnt touch any Linux kernel code. I am experienced programmer, and almost I is afraid doing anything in Linux kernel :P16:19
rustuptwist1Oxymoron:  whats left? lenovo, asus, MSI, alienware, anything else? btw i use an apple. these are my childrens computers16:20
OxymoronRosbuntu: Anyway, I would check #ubuntu-dev or #programming channels :P16:20
Rosbuntuhow about a linux usb driver16:20
MonkeyDustRosbuntu  or #ubuntu-kernel16:20
tgrebeI managed to get most of my files out of ecryptfs upon recovering my mount passphrase. Most of them are fine but some of them are still ECRYPTFS_FNEK folders and files, mostly unreadable.16:20
Oxymoronrustuptwist1: Build your own desktop computer, ALWAYS, never buy anything complete, except laptops ...16:20
TJ-rustuptwist: OK... boot the CD again now, and choose "Try Ubuntu" from the boot menu. An Ubuntu Live session will start and eventually load a full graphical desktop... Once there, there is an icon on the desktop "Install Ubuntu" which will do what you want16:21
Oxymoronrustuptwist1: If you want laptops, I would say Lenovo, Asus or Apple. Perhaps Samsung, not sure, they are quite new on laptops.16:21
Oxymoronrustuptwist1: But thats #ubuntu-offopic :P16:21
rustuptwist1im trying to train my 13yr to do that, hence moving them to Ubuntu, etc16:21
rustuptwist1i'll be back in about 20 mins….16:21
TJ-rustuptwist1: OK, good luck :)16:21
rustuptwist1hopefully by that time the new iso will be done downloading :)16:22
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jj995when building libcxx from source, is it a best to install under /usr, /usr/local, or /usr/local/libcxx ?16:32
jj995do I risk messing packages up by installing directly under /usr?  I normally install things from source under a dedicated directory (e.g. /usr/local/libcxx) so that it is easy to remove it, but it is a pain to use since it isn't a default search path16:34
llutzjj995: put it into /usr/local/lib, check and edit /etc/ld.so.conf{,.d} to contain that16:36
jj995llutz: thanks, that is so that compiled apps will find the libs to run, right?16:37
llutzjj995: yes16:37
Glitchjj995, i usualy create a link in /usr/bin for search function/tab complete16:38
llutz /usr/local/bin for binaries should be part of the $PATH, no need for symlinks16:38
Rosbuntuhey dont write chinese16:40
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw16:40
duelex /join #ubuntu-cn16:40
duelexanybody can tell me how to use it16:41
llutzduelex: remove the leading space before /join16:41
duelexlet me try16:42
llutz"/join #ubuntu-cn"  without quotes at the beginning of a new line duelex16:43
duelexjoin #ubuntu-cn16:43
Mike9863I am ssh'd into a computer that has a harddrive connected to the router. Is it possible for me to access this network drive from my computer through SSH?16:43
ThoMeis it posible to work with  Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 3x3 AGN  ? with n mode?16:43
ThoMewith n mode is slow, very slow :-(16:43
duelexi do it16:44
TJ-Mike9863: You can mount it remotely using "sshfs"16:44
LrdArcit seems my rhythmbox inhibit the power-manager so my screen did not dimmed after certain minute if the song is played. is there any way to disable it?16:44
llutzMike9863: yes, if you can access the drive on the host, using sshfs on your pc16:44
llutzMike9863: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS16:45
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia16:45
Mike9863Thanks I'll try this out16:45
duelexjoin #ubuntu-cn16:50
OerHeksduelex, "/join #ubuntu-cn"16:51
jj995is there a way to add paths to the default include/lib path so I don't need to include long paths like this? clang++ -std=c++11 -stdlib=libc++ -nostdinc++ -I/usr/local/libcxx/include/c++/v1 -L/usr/local/libcxx/lib test.cpp16:52
jj995I guess this is OK, since I don't want to override the default paths16:53
fl0wI'm getting a weird message everytime I use sudo. "sudo: unable to resolve host meg". Running "> hostname" returns "meg", and in my /etc/hosts I have as follows: https://dpaste.de/So5916:57
fl0wAny ideas of what I am doing wrong?16:57
llutzfl0w: add " meg" do /etc/hosts16:58
llutzfl0w: "meg" doesn't resolve to localhost now, thus the message16:58
RobDudeHi all16:59
fl0wI will, thanks. But what's going on? And why
llutzfl0w: use any 127.x.x.x you want, you might add meg to too.16:59
fl0wllutz: oh, so all 127.x.x.x are loopback? I thought only the full 0.0.1 was intended for that? :)17:00
llutzfl0w: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost17:00
Wiz-KeeDhey guys17:00
menehi, i want to ask a question17:00
Wiz-KeeDI have just made a fresh install and I need a bit of helpe with a few things17:00
bahamashello. anyone know how I can make ubuntu 12.04 see my sony xperia m dual sim?17:00
veduhello. which is the correct place to ask questions about operating a ubuntu server remotely17:01
fl0wllutz: Thanks man. Anyway, as promised, it fixed the problem! Much appreciated and thanks.17:01
RobDudeI'm not sure if this is the place to ask - but I'm having a heck of a time booting into Ubuntu after an install - it just keeps taking me into Windows.  Does anyone think they'd be able to help me?17:01
Wiz-KeeD1. I have a ssd freshly installed in the main bay and I did it while my hdd caddy was pulled out.Now I have placed the caddy in and I would like to format it so both Ubuntu and Windows see it (NTFS) does anyone know how I can do this? I installed gparted and it doesn't have the hard-drive there17:01
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meneI have installed cairo-dock and I want to add pidgin shortcut on it, what launching commad shoud i have to use?17:01
Wiz-KeeDwait sorry, it was there in the dropdown!17:02
fl0wllutz: Oh, i pretty much misunderstand the /8 part of I always thought that was a -> range.17:02
llutzfl0w: nope, CIDR notation, /8 ~ as netmask17:03
fl0wllutz: well, my pet peeve regarding unwanted notice messages resultet in a multipart learning session. Many thanks again!17:04
llutzfl0w: " A day spent without learning something is a day wasted." ;)17:06
Samuel_Where can I go to get help installing ubuntu?17:07
fl0wstackoverflow, google the error message - what type of help are you looking for Samuel_?17:07
Samuel_Windows 8 is making the install horrible17:08
Samuel_And my laptop can't boot from a usb, at least im doing it wrong if it can17:08
fl0wAh, I'm not a Windows user, can't help you :)17:08
Samuel_Soon, neither will I17:09
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alelerohola que tal17:16
TheProphetSHi all17:18
phil-nsSamuel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:18
phil-nsthat's probably your issue17:19
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LrdArcit seems my rhythmbox inhibit the power-manager so my screen did not dimmed after certain minute if the song is played. is there any way to disable it?17:22
cute_blondiehi :)17:24
phil-nsLrdArc: not sure if that's a rhythmbox thing, but maybe try clementine, I use it and my power-manager works fine.17:24
Guest95699can any one see my msg?17:26
DJonesGuest95699: Yes the channel can see you17:26
linuxearthi am new to linux, which linux do i install? some say kde is good for windows convertor, is it true? what i do?17:29
Precise-user2linuxearth: puppy linux is the best distro.17:29
linuxearthpuppy linux? oh where is it easy?17:30
linuxearthis it easy distro Precise-user217:30
Precise-user2linuxearth: its the most fastest linux.17:30
llutzand offtopic here17:31
linuxearthfastest means what?17:31
Precise-user2linuxearth: if u want the easiest one then u should go for linux mint. its like windows .17:31
Pessimistlinuxearth, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm17:32
khildintsss.... mint is like windows? then try Zorin....17:32
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linuxearthZorin is a distro?17:32
khildinVERY easy17:32
goldstarhow do I view package info on a repo ? i.e. apt-get info package17:32
morsnowskimissing the technical question17:33
khildinit's ubuntu based but with a windows desktop17:33
hitsujiTMO!ot | linuxearth Precise-user2 khildin ::: this is a convo better suited for ##linux17:33
ubottulinuxearth Precise-user2 khildin ::: this is a convo better suited for ##linux: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:33
llutzgoldstar: apt-cache show package17:33
goldstarllutz: thanks17:33
linuxearthi am going17:33
khildinsight hitsujiTMO ..... Zorin is ubuntu based17:33
llutzand offtopic here17:34
hitsujiTMOkhildin: and is not supported here and offtopic17:34
bt6I am trying to mount a network drive on my system with fstab, but I'm getting an error. Can anyone help? Here is my line and the error: http://pastebin.com/iYHq24t517:36
cristian_cbt6, ubuntu?17:36
llutzuse cifs not ntfs for networkdrives bt617:36
v10energyI am looking for an ftp server that will allow me to add custom users and point them to certain folders on the system17:37
bt6llutz: That did it. Thanks a lot.17:37
john32744Legalize and tax Cannabis on a federal level (we need your help )17:38
john32744Legalize and tax Cannabis on a federal level17:38
FloodBot1john32744: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:38
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manlinhi all, ssh connections from within LAN takes about 10 seconds but ssh through public IP is instant. any thoughts?17:41
b3knn17manlin: this might sound silly but are you getting to it from the LAN address ?17:45
manlinb3knn17: yeah when i use 192.168 i get the 10 sec delay17:46
manlinno problems accessing it from its public facing ip17:46
b3knn17i think it may be something to do  with DNS17:47
b3knn17whats in your /etc/resolve.cong17:47
manlinb3knn17: if DNS, what to check and how please?17:47
khildinmanlin, if you add the server to your hosts file, you still have that problem?17:47
manlinkhildin: its already in my host file17:48
khildinthen it should be resolved instantly17:48
manlinkhildin: that y i'm surprised17:48
manlinthis happens from all my client LAN machines to that server17:48
Precise-user2ubuntu channel is really always busy.17:49
manlinb3knn17: not worried about resolv.conf as i have server ip in hosts file17:49
llutzmanlin: try "ssh -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no host"17:49
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manlinllutz: the option is already set to no in my sshd_config.17:50
manlinwould it make any difference if i call it again from command line while sshing17:50
llutzmanlin: no. you might try "UseDNS no" in sshd_config on the server for a test17:51
manlinllutz: GSSAPIAuthentication=no doesn't make any difference. I will try UseDNS and let you know17:52
khildinI always thought hosts came before DNS if an address needs to be resolved?17:52
khildinso 'no-DNS' shouldn't be necessary?17:53
v10energyis it possible to create custom users in vsftpd and point them to a specific directory? For example, I have /home/ftp_folders/folder1 (2,3,4,5, etc...), so I want to create a user/pass for each one of the folders (folder1, folder2, etc...)17:53
khildin*'UseDNS no'17:53
llutzv10energy: this seems to be a similar setup http://howto.gumph.org/content/setup-virtual-users-and-directories-in-vsftpd/17:55
v10energyllutz: thank you!17:55
manlinllutz: khildin: this strange thing happened all of a sudden with no changes to ssh server. thats y worried.17:56
manlinanyways i just wanted to know why it is happening. but i can live with it :)17:57
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v10energyllutz: what if I don't use Apache? I use nginx...17:58
wiz_Guys, what tests can I run in ubuntu for my wireless card to check it's integrity, signal, health, speed etc?17:58
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Wiz_KeeDI have just had it from the warranty and they changed the module17:58
Wiz_KeeDand the signal strength seems to fluctuate from 2 bars to 3-417:59
llutzv10energy: the vsftpd-part should be the same, just adjust the pathes to your setup17:59
top-gun-dehello, I have an issue with Ubuntu in a virtual machine: I use Ubuntu 13.10 as a compiling-system for a multimedia-distro (Openelec). I have installed Ubuntu standard, and apt-installed the tools which are needed to build openelec. No other user-application is running. The git-repository lies in my user-folder, and building happens there as well. The machine eats up 2.5-3.5gb of Ram without anything running.17:59
top-gun-deWhat can I do to reduce the size?18:00
v10energyllutz: it requires me to have/use htpasswd to setup users which is part of apache18:00
Beldartop-gun-de, the vm should have a memory adjustment.18:01
llutzv10energy: htpasswd comes with a lot of packages18:01
llutzv10energy: or: http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?6,210155,21015518:02
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top-gun-deBeldar: Yes, that's true. It should have 2GB of Ram to build Openelec. However, from other reports, 2GB of Ram for the whole machine should be sufficient to build openelec. I have set mine to 1,2GB start-size, dynamically increasing to 3,5GB if needed. Linux eats up the whole 3.5GB after a few minutes, with no open window. This is causing shortage on the host-system. I believe it does excessive prefetching for the filesystem-cache18:11
top-gun-deoops, there is a repetition in the posting.18:12
top-gun-defwiw, I do now use Hyper-V 2012R2, but the same thing happened under virtualbox which I used before.18:12
top-gun-deafaik, the OS should be working with 512-1024MB of Ram. In my case, caching so much does not really help the build-process, but the high memoryconsumption is shortening the available ram for the compiler/linker.18:13
manlinllutz: khildin: i did ssh -vvv and got this http://paste.debian.net/78328/18:15
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga18:15
rustuptwistdamn. what the hell. I chose cd/dvd from the bios BUT THE  installer is still saying install 'inside windows' WTF18:15
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ubottuWubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug18:16
k1lrustuptwist: does it boot into windows?18:16
rustuptwistis there a way to install alternative or turn off WUBI before/during install. I dont want a WUBI install18:16
k1lor does it load the ubuntu-live system?18:17
rhalffwhat to install to get correct vendor id's for usb?18:17
top-gun-deFrom my understanding, if Ubuntu is installed in a hyper-v-environment with dynamic memory, "ballooning" should cause the system to reduce the memory-consumption if the ram is not needed.18:17
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rustuptwistk1l:  from what I can tell it loaded the live ubuntu system. we were given a menu choice and chose install ubuntu, as opposed to mem test or check disc for defects, etc18:17
k1lrustuptwist: you can go with the alternate install iso18:18
rustuptwistk1l:  mini iso?18:18
k1l!alternate | rustuptwist18:18
ubotturustuptwist: The alternate CD has been discontinued for the main Ubuntu distro, please use and report any bugs in the !LiveCD18:18
rustuptwist!Something else18:18
k1lno, for 12.04 there still is alternate cd without the live system or wubi18:19
rustuptwistk1l:  i can chose 'something else' i just have to know what i am doing in terms of which partition to chose to put the ubuntu, etc18:19
k1lrustuptwist: manual partitioning should not be a problem18:22
rustuptwistk1l:  for the alternative I will need to use the command line yes?18:22
k1lrustuptwist: no. that is like the old windows installer. just not a full live cd18:22
rustuptwistk1l:  i think not just need to be able to tell what is what. this is not my forte18:22
rustuptwistk1l:  not familiar with the 'old windows installer'18:23
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k1lrustuptwist: to make it short: its foolproof easy18:23
rustuptwistk1l:  i can either go back and choose alternate install on this CD or choose 'something else' and have you help me with the partition situation, if you are able18:24
rustuptwistk1l:  my net connection in this part of the world is a bit slow, so to download another .iso might be awhile18:25
k1lrustuptwist: if you have specific questions the channel can help.18:27
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loki_Hey guys.  is anyone around to help me out with rsync?  I am sure I am missing something small18:28
k1li am not always available18:28
compdochow is rsync not working?18:30
loki_I have setup rsync to copy some files to a network drive.  the task runs and creates the folders, but it doesn't copy the files18:30
compdocand if you run the same command in a terminal?18:31
loki_compdoc: same behavior18:31
loki_I get some errors, but I don't understand how to correct them.  rsync noob here.18:32
compdocis it a long command? maybe pastebin.com?18:32
loki_compdoc: the command or the output?18:32
rustuptwistk1l:  whats the difference between f4 modes and f6 other options during the installation process ( they are options i can choose)18:32
ubottuThere are many different channel and user modes on freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml18:32
loki_ok, let me gather the info18:32
k1lrustuptwist: see the options that are listed then. i dont know out of my head18:33
chezzypopWhat do you guys use to convert mkv to dvd's with?18:33
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: the modes are for different types of installs. such as minimal system vs standard base.18:33
loki_compdoc: it is going to take a few.18:34
rustuptwistim trying to install alongside win7 NOT inside. i assume OEM install or 'use driver update disc' will not help with that18:34
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: the options in f6 are kernel parameter options. they're common options that some may need to set in order to boot the system18:34
loki_but the command is: rsync --ignore-existing -raz --progress /source/folder /destination/folder18:34
Left_Turnmy wireless went down. it says "Wireless is disabled by hardware switch".. my wireless button doesnt turn it back on... what gives?18:34
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: nope, is this server install or desktop?18:35
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  desktop18:35
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: once you get into the installer itself, ubiquity, it will ask you if you want to install alongside windows18:36
hitsujiTMOLeft_Turn: can you pastebin the output of: rfkill list18:36
loki_compdoc: does anything look wrong with the command?18:36
BeldarLeft_Turn, There are handfuls of possibility's generally associated with the wifi hardware, run lspci in the terminal find that info and include it in your queries to the channel.18:36
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  it only asks for an install 'inside' windows NOT alongside as it did with my other sons hp18:37
ablestrange... trying to install ubuntu server on a laptop with an exisiting windows installation (gpt layout). for some reason the installer sees all the space as free18:37
k1lrustuptwist: btw, i suggest you first resize windows with the windows intern disk tool to make space for ubuntu18:37
thetaehas anyone been able to successfully connect via VNC from ubuntu 13.10 to a mac running OS X Mavericks?18:37
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hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: are you using wubi?18:37
ablefdisk -l /dev/sdX shows the existing parts (warns about gpt layout though)18:37
Beldarable, open gpafrted and count the partitions shown and tells us that info.18:37
compdocloki_, no, seems reasonable. Just a sec...18:38
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  not purposely. it seems the install disk is though18:38
Left_Turnok let me check thanks18:38
ableBeldar, no gparted on the install disk?18:38
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: did you boot the disk? or did you run it from within windows?18:38
Beldarable, there is.18:38
sayahHi everyone, does anyone know what the minimum hardware config that is necessary to run Compiz with the revolving cube?.18:38
Left_TurnhitsujiTMO, $ rfkill list18:39
Left_Turn0: phy0: Wireless LAN18:39
Left_TurnSoft blocked: no18:39
Left_TurnHard blocked: yes18:39
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  selected CD/dvd boot in the BIOS then booted from the disc18:39
Beldarable, This is what disc your using, sudo fdisk -l will tell us to.18:39
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k1lLeft_Turn: make sure the hardware switch is on and not off18:39
k1lLeft_Turn: as you see it says the hardware switch is turned off18:40
Beldarable, If this is a msdos partition table you can have a max of 4 primary partition.18:40
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: ok. then as k1l suggested, got back into windows, go to the administrative tools in the control panel, goto disk management and resize down the windows partition18:40
ableBeldar, its gpt18:40
ablefdisk says so too18:40
Beldarable, Ah good, not sure the server has a uefi install, others here will know better and what to do.18:41
ableBeldar, same with a debian install cd18:41
loki_compdoc: the strange thing about this is it looks like it is actually doing something.  it takes a while to do what it needs to do, but on the destination the files aren't there18:41
hitsujiTMOLeft_Turn: sudo rfkill unblock 018:42
Beldarable, If needed there is a #ubuntu-server channel.18:42
hitsujiTMOLeft_Turn: then once again pastebin the output of: rfkill list18:42
Left_Turnsame output as last time hitsujiTMO18:43
Beldarsayah, The minimal hard ware needed for ubuntu should cover that overall.18:44
loki_compdoc: this is rsync'ing to a network drive.  the drive is mounted to a mount point in the fstab so the rsync destination is that mount point.  I really am confused.  this is the first time I am using rsync, but it seems pretty straightforward.  I am sure I am missing something small is all.18:44
kostkonLeft_Turn, also try sudo rfkill unblock all18:44
hitsujiTMOLeft_Turn: pastebin the output of: lspci -knn | grep Network -A218:44
compdocloki_, I was trying to connect to a couple server where I run many rsync commands, but they are both down. try18:45
Left_Turnok 1 sec18:45
sayahBeldar: I tried everyting but Compiz doen´t run.  Everyting else works great.18:45
Left_TurnhitsujiTMO, http://bpaste.net/show/p4SAtmXb8c2Eqs1Ie1Hw/18:46
Beldarsayah, unity is a plugin in compiz, do you have the desktop working?18:46
compdocoops, *trying another18:46
hitsujiTMOLeft_Turn: whats the output of: uname -a18:47
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sayahBeldar: Yes, unity, gnome.18:47
loki_compdoc: ah.18:47
loki_compdoc: what is it you want me to try?18:47
Beldarsayah, unity, gnome? is a bit confusing, can you be more specific.18:48
Left_Turnhttp://bpaste.net/show/GjxR6sznJ2ykDstvK9kM/ hitsujiTMO18:48
PessimistBeldar, unity is a shell for gnome, you can consider it like a compiz plugin18:48
MonkeyDustsayah  unity is a compiz shell over gnome318:48
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  how do i know which one to resize D or E?18:48
BeldarPessimist, that is incorrect, and I'm not a noob18:48
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: whichever you think is more appropriate18:49
sayahBeldar: i can log into all the desktops, but no gnome3, just gnome218:49
llutzloki_: that rsync command itself is working fine, to local drive as fine as to a sshfs-location. must be something else18:49
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: depends on what you want18:49
loki_llutz: any ideas where I should look18:49
llutzloki_: no sorry18:49
MonkeyDustsayah  it looks like gnome2, but it's gnome3, it's called ubuntu classic18:49
Beldarsayah, Ah, do you mean the pseudo gnome 2 fallback? and are you trying to get the cube there or unity?18:50
sayahBeldar: I have that, and my hardware can display 3d effects on windows18:50
llutzloki_: can you pastebin the output of "ls -lRa /source/folder /target/folder" please?18:50
loki_llutz: let me have a look18:50
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  what will this do?18:50
sayahMonkeyDust: I can load classic. but no joy with any compiz stuff.18:51
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  just to understand whats going on a a bit more, thx18:51
Beldarsayah, It helps if you read the questions and answer them as is, so in unity you have the desktop, but no cube?18:51
sayahBeldar: yes.18:51
hitsujiTMOLeft_Turn: seems to be some sort of known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1080045 but has not been addressed. Updating to a later kernel stack may be an option18:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 1080045 in linux (Ubuntu) "168c:001c Wireless get stuck in Hard Blocked" [Medium,Expired]18:51
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Left_Turnoh i see hitsujiTMO .. thanks ill look into updating18:52
loki_llutz: there is a lot of data here.  could you tell me what we are looking for?18:52
Beldarsayah, Cool, be sure to address issue one at a time, not 3 desktop environments, I do not use unity, so others will be better help.18:52
llutz!paste | loki_ can you pastebin it here please18:53
ubottuloki_ can you pastebin it here please: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:53
Thor446I found a flash drive!  Do I put the .iso on the drive directly, or unpack it and put the contents in?18:53
loki_llutz: I know how to pastebin it, but there is a lot of personal info in the file.  trying to figure out what we are looking for.  it seems like you may be thinking permissions?18:53
kostkonLeft_Turn, just get the saucy stack, 12.04.4 will have that soon,  i.e. linux-generic-lts-saucy. instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack18:53
llutzloki_: ah ok18:53
BeldarThor446, There handfuls of usb loaders, unetbootin is one commonly used.18:54
MonkeyDustThor446  use a bootable usb creator, unetbootin or so18:54
ag74is there anybody how knows an good GTK+ Tutorial ?18:54
MonkeyDustBeldar  was faster :)18:54
Thor446Ah, forgot about that, thanks18:54
loki_llutz: is that what you were thinking?18:54
llutzloki_: "find source/folder -type f|wc -l"  "find source/folder -type f|wc -l"  2 anonymous numbers only .)18:54
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  ok i have 133gb unallocated. That should be fine?18:54
Left_Turnthanks kostkon18:54
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: basically, your windows partitions are taking up all the space, but the ubuntu install wont resize it. You need to downsize it in windows. Usually you'd downsize a partition that has the most free space and then move all partitions forward such that all free spaces is to the end of the drive/extended partition18:54
whiskers75I've installed Ubuntu onto a Mac; however, when selecting linux from refind, it boots into grub, and I cannot use the keyboard to select anything to boot.18:54
Thor446What's Space used to preserve files across reboots?18:54
loki_llutz: ok.  let me have a look18:54
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: thats more than enough for ubuntu18:54
llutzloki_: "find source/folder -type f|wc -l"  "find target /folder -type f|wc -l"  2 anonymous numbers only .)  sry18:54
hitsujiTMOLeft_Turn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack if you want to try an update18:55
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  just wanted to give ubuntu some big love, lol18:55
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  so the unallocated reading from left to right is at the end (last box on the right) that is correct?18:55
Left_Turnthanks hitsujiTMO .. kostkon also provided the link.. im reading it now.. thanks18:55
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: yup thats good18:56
ag74i used Xubuntu now, and I am very happy with it. by the way :)18:56
loki_llutz: 1509 for source, 3 for dest.18:56
hitsujiTMOLeft_Turn: ahh cool. just replace quantal with saucy in the first line given18:56
Left_TurnhitsujiTMO, ah ok.. will do18:57
rustuptwistag74:  is it that much different from ubuntu, assuming that is what you were using before?18:57
llutzloki_: really odd... "cp source/folder/onefile target/folder"  does it work?18:58
loki_llutz: ok.  let me try18:58
sh0thi guys! I am still having big problems installing Ubuntu 13.10 in dual boot with Windows 8 on my HP Envy because of issues related to UEFI/SecureBoot and all these things. Anyway I eventually installed it and now  it doesn't boot so i restarted the live ubuntu on my usb i installed boot-repair and now it gets stuck in the "scanning systems (os-prober)" initial phase18:59
loki_llutz: no18:59
ag74I used Ubuntu before, but there always came on error-message (CRASH), with XFCE is my life easier :), I dont like Unity19:00
sh0tany idea?19:00
llutzloki_: but 1st rsync run created the dirs? sounds like permission issue19:00
rustuptwistag74:  what kind of machine did you have it installed on? laptop, desktop, new, old?19:00
llutzloki_: "ls -ld target/folder"19:00
loki_llutz: yes.  created dirs.  I had to run that cp command as super user, but it didn't copy it still.19:00
loki_llutz: ok, hang on19:00
llutzloki_: "mount |grep target19:01
loki_llutz: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jan 25 10:58 /dest/folder19:01
loki_llutz: second command returned nothing19:02
ag74Its a Desktop PC with 4 GB RAM, Intel Q9300 and an Intel Onboard GfXchip19:02
llutzloki_: replace "target" by the real mountpointname19:02
loki_llutz: that's what I did.  mount | grep /dest/folder19:02
loki_llutz: correct syntax?19:02
llutzloki_: only mountpoint, not path ".... grep dest"19:03
loki_llutz: ah, ok.  mount | grep /media/ returns nothing.  as does mount | grep /media19:03
rustuptwistag74:  how old?19:04
loki_llutz: my issue is basically the same as this one: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/rsync-not-copying-files-no-error-shown-755605/19:05
loki_llutz: error code 23 I have seen.  my main.c and sender info was different IIRc19:05
hitsujiTMOloki_: get anything when you add the -v flag?19:06
llutzloki_: check the permissions of the mounted filesystem. for a test umount and mount it again, try to copy a single file19:07
loki_hitsujiTMO: add the -v flag to which command?19:07
hitsujiTMOloki_: rsync19:07
loki_hitsujiTMO: let me try19:07
loki_llutz: sec.19:07
hitsujiTMOloki_: -v is for increased verbosity. might give you a better idea of whats going on19:07
loki_hitsujiTMO: odd.  it looks like it completed, but the file isn't at the destination19:08
hitsujiTMOloki_: whats the exact command you're using? what is the target filesystem?19:09
loki_hitsujiTMO: this is the output19:09
loki_hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6815993/19:09
rustuptwist!gnome 2.x19:09
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity19:09
hitsujiTMOloki_: are you missing -r ?19:09
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.19:10
FloodBot1Wh4tTheFvk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:10
loki_hitsujiTMO: the exact command I used was "rsync --ignore-existing -raz --progress -v /mnt/samba/Docs/file /dest/dir"19:10
loki_llutz: is there a way I can test permissions without umounting and mounting again?  there are a lot of drives mounted to this box.19:11
loki_llutz: OOORRR....can I just amount that one mount point?19:11
loki_llutz: sorry for the noob question19:11
llutzloki_: ls -ld /dir/to/check          sudo umount /mnt/point19:11
hitsujiTMOloki_: why the ignore-existing?19:12
loki_llutz: /dir/to/check is on the remote system?19:12
llutzloki_: the destination/path19:12
loki_hitsujiTMO: I only want it to write files that have been changed or are new.  is that unnecessary?19:12
hitsujiTMOloki_: yes its unnecessary19:12
loki_hitsujiTMO: would it cause the copy to fail with it in there?19:12
hitsujiTMOloki_: if your trying to copy a file that differs then it will fail19:13
loki_llutz: ls -ld returns this "drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jan 25 10:58 /mount/point/"19:14
loki_hitsujiTMO: hmm.  let me try again without that in there and see what happens19:14
hitsujiTMOloki_: are you running the command as root?19:14
loki_hitsujiTMO: I have tried both ways19:14
loki_hitsujiTMO: just tried again without ignore-existing and it didn't work19:15
loki_llutz: let me amount and mount19:15
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konnoranyone know when Counter Strike Global Offence will come to linux?19:16
konnorit's made by valve19:16
rustuptwistthe 142gb free space is being defined as 'unusable' When I select it a message pops up saying "no root file system is defined" Please correct from the partitioning menu19:16
loki_llutz: very very strange indeed.  it wasn't mounted.19:16
DJoneskonnor: Probably best emailing valve, they're the only ones who will know19:16
konnorok i love valve!19:17
loki_llutz: after doing the umount/mount it successfully copied a file over.  any idea why, even though it is in the fstab and I ran mount -a after entering it in the fstab it wouldn't be there?19:17
llutzloki_: remote-fs timeout or something? i don't know19:18
loki_llutz: hmm.  possibly.  thanks, I am going to try to do the whole directory and see what happens19:19
llutzloki_: you may check dmesg or /var/log/syslog for info on that. maybe there's something in the logs19:19
loki_llutz: ok.  will have a look in a sec.19:19
DoctorCebollahi, anyone who speaks spanish? i'm new in ubuntu19:19
DJones!es | DoctorCebolla19:19
kostkon!es | DoctorCebolla19:19
ubottuDoctorCebolla: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:19
DoctorCebollamany thanks DJones19:19
rustuptwistthis is getting aggravating  >:(19:20
DJonesDoctorCebolla: You're welcome19:20
rustuptwistso the partition resize that i did is unusable in Ubuntu damn. cant just install ubuntu19:21
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: if there were 4 primary partitions and you resized down the last extended partition then you can just size the extended partition up again and install to the free spance in that19:22
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rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  but why is the partion unusable did the resize change it from ntfs to someting else. I dont understand, seems illogical a frustrating as Hell!19:23
llutz!info aiccu19:23
ubottuaiccu (source: aiccu): SixXS Automatic IPv6 Connectivity Client Utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 20070115-15.1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 49 kB, installed size 190 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)19:23
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rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  there are 4 and the 5th is what i created by resizing19:26
sh0thi guys i am trying to run boot-repair to fix the fact that on my new HP the ubuntu just installed doesnt boot19:26
sh0tbut boot-repair gets stuck19:26
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: dont create a partition. just leaveit as fre space19:26
sh0ton the initial phase *scaning systems*os-prober19:26
RarrikinsWhat's a high-quality HE-AAC encoder?19:26
darkangelcurious* What is QA Testing?19:26
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  that is what I thought I did. In the ubuntu installer it is identified as 'free space"19:27
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: can you pop into the live cd and pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l19:27
rustuptwistdamn it would probably be easier tu install OSX onto this win laptop then ubuntu so far, sheesh19:28
yalchin-38Привет всем !19:28
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rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  yeah give me a minute and I will do just that19:30
ubottu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes19:30
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yalchin-38Здравствуйте всем !19:33
Beldarsh0t, On the webpage for bootrepair is a link to the ubuntu forums thread of the apps developer, you might post there.19:34
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sh0tok Beldar thx for the info19:34
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  best i could do is this: cause its on a different machine than what i am using to access this channel: http://campl..us/jnZZQQGj8je19:35
Beldarsh0t, I suspect you have a uefi setup, there is excellent help on the forums for this, people focused on this specific area19:35
rustuptwistoops http://campl.us/jnZZQQGj8je19:35
sh0tBeldar, your suspects are correct! i do have that thing and i struggled allot to install ubuntu now i am trying to make it boot somehow...i'll give a look to that link19:36
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  or how do i access this channel via firefox then i can send you a cut and paste from the machine itself.19:36
hitsujiTMOcoming up with page not found :(19:37
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  otherwise here is the screen shot : http://campl.us/jnZZQQGj8je 19:37
hewhomustrustuptwist,  kiwiirc is  a nice web client19:37
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: use paste.ubuntu.com to paste to that.19:37
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  wait19:37
llutzrustuptwist: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu19:38
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816131/19:39
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: you have used the maximum number of partitions possible in your drive.19:40
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: when sda4 was created it should have been created in an extended partition, which would allow you to create more partitions19:41
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816153/19:43
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  HOW IS that? can you see it all better?19:43
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: but bad news19:44
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: you have used the maximum number of partitions possible in your drive.19:44
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: when sda4 was created it should have been created in an extended partition, which would allow you to create more partitions19:44
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  ok. so what should i do now? go back and..?19:44
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hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: the fix would be to image sda4 off the drive, create an extended partition in its place, then image it back to a logical partition within the extened partition19:45
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: you would need another drive to use that had more free space than the total size of the sda4 partition19:46
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  sounds complicated. any other options?19:46
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: afraid not19:46
TJ-hitsujiTMO: There is another way :)19:46
rustuptwistdamn this is crazy. all this just to install ubuntu on a laptop. i cant believe that19:46
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: well, whats on that partition?19:46
TJ-rustuptwist: You seen to be cursed; I don't know of anyone else had so many issues, and usually I'm the one that gets hit by all this kind of thing19:47
TJ-rustuptwist: Can you wait 5 minutes whilst I discuss a possible workaround with hitsujiTMO ?19:47
hitsujiTMOTJ-: well, actuall yeah, copying the contents off19:47
TJ-hitsujiTMO: No, better than that, if we want to avoid using another drive.19:47
rustuptwistTJ-:  yeah I can wait this is day 3 of this sh%8T19:48
rustuptwistno offense to you guys19:48
rustuptwistjust frustrating as hell19:48
hitsujiTMOTJ-: fire away19:48
TJ-hitsujiTMO: sda4 ends at sector 697833471. The drive ends at 976773167. We could simply 'dd' sda4 up into the unused space starting at some sector offset above the end of sda4.19:48
rustuptwistwhen i access the drives or partiions via the ubuntu home folder mechanism it shows 3 partions and the system reserve19:49
TJ-hitsujiTMO: We now have a bitwise copy of sda4. We can then delete the partition table entry for sda4, create an extended, create a logical of the same sector count as the current sda4, and the dd the backup sectors into the new sda519:49
rustuptwistwhat is weird is that 2 are 74gb each and one is 210gb19:49
hitsujiTMOTJ-: ahh yeah i get ya.19:49
TJ-hitsujiTMO: safe too .. as long as rustuptwist does nothing else with the drives except the explicit instructions we give19:50
hitsujiTMOTJ-: sounds like a plan19:50
tekkhey guys, I have a bunch of Late 2012 Mac Mini's, they use the BCM57765 chipset for Ethernet which is supported by newer versions of the tg3 driver from broadcom... on 12.10 and below (which is what i've tested) I have to manually compile and install this tg3 variant.... removing the stock one... does anyone know if support in newer ubuntu versions is better? i think it was even included in newer versions of the linux kernel.19:50
rigo88hi. the remote sends mce remote signals in 13.04@3.13kernel, and had sent keyboard signals with 12.04@3.6.3kernel. howsthat? how can i force the system to fetch keyboard presses instead of stupid mce remote signals?19:50
TJ-hitsujiTMO: The backup would start at 831899696 according to my calculation... want to check me on that before we start?19:51
TJ-hitsujiTMO:  I did echo "976773168-(72436736*2)"|bc19:52
hitsujiTMOTJ-: give me a few mins. just finishing my dinner19:52
rustuptwistas for the drives they do not seem to have much on them but folders with numbers, e.g. 1029, 1028 and in these folders is eula.rtf, localizedData.xml, and SetupResources.dll19:52
Beldartekk, Better is an opinion, you will have to decide that yourself really.19:52
rustuptwistas for important files, my son backed them all up to Dropbox a few days ago when we first started this process19:53
TJ-hitsujiTMO: OK ... I'm assuming fdisk is using 1K block suze, not 4K since sda1 looks to be the Windows System Reserved file-system which is usually 100MB19:53
tekkBeldar, more i'm asking, is BCM57765 supported in newer ubuntu versions?19:53
hitsujiTMOTJ-: block size is listed here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816153/19:53
TJ-rustuptwist: We've got a sneaky workaround for you, give us a few minutes19:53
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Using that as my base19:53
rustuptwistso we can use any of those drives as long  as they dont contain the win7 system resources, programs, etc. with me TJ– and hitsujiTMO ?19:53
rustuptwistTJ-:  cool btw system reserved is total of 104.9mb / 25.4 used 79.4 free according to properties box via Ubuntu19:55
TJ-rustuptwist: We're going one better, the plan is to make a backup of the current sda4 in *unused* space at the end of the drive. That then allows us to 'delete' sda4 entry, replace it with an Extended partition entry, and then create new partitions as we need to. The first will be sda5 and we'll then copy the back-up from the end of the drive back but into sda5... then we can allocate the unused space from the end of the drive for Ubuntu19:56
rustuptwistTJ-:  i dont have an extra drive' sitting around though it that is what is needed, meaning external HD19:56
Beldartekk, I know nothing about broadcom, however I have the feeing that most need drivers loaded and setup in general, I suspect few work out of the box, have you looked at the broadcom wiki?19:57
TJ-rustuptwist: As I said, we are going to use the unused space at the end of the drive to make a backup, no additional drive is required.19:57
TJ-rustuptwist: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid /dev/sda?"19:57
rustuptwistTJ-:  yeah just a sec19:58
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tekkstruggling to find up to date info on googler19:58
tekki know that the tg3 module in 13.04 and below even doesn't have it19:58
tekki think it was included in 3.5 of the linux kernel and above19:58
tekkdo you know what kernel version comes with 13.10 ?19:58
TJ-tekk: 3.1119:59
yeatstekk: 3.1119:59
rustuptwistTJ-:  nothing happend when i entered the command19:59
rustuptwistTJ-:  blkid?20:00
TJ-rustuptwist: that is unexpected. If there are Windows file-systems in those partitions, we should have seen information about them20:00
rustuptwistTJ-:  ah just a sec. left of the question mark at the end, sorry20:00
tekkthanks guys20:00
tekknext question :) has usb 3.0 support improved since 12.10 ?20:00
tekkon some systems i've suffered kernel panics by just plugging in a usb 3.0 device20:01
TJ-rustuptwist: *phew!20:01
tekkusb 3 mass-storage in particular20:01
Myrttiok, as you were20:02
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816267/20:02
TJ-rustuptwist: That looks better... it gives us confirmation of the file-systems in those partitions.20:02
hitsujiTMOTJ-: sonofrustuptwist right back20:02
TJ-rustuptwist: In the commands we are going to provide it is *vitally* important you check that you type exactly what we provide, especially as we'll be giving some numbers with lots of digits in.20:03
LinnakCan I ask why Ubuntu always based on the Testing version of Debian an not the Stable one?20:03
rustuptwistTJ-:  yeah it appears that one is basically empty, one of the 74gb partition and the 210gb are both pretty much empty of anything20:03
TJ-hitsujiTMO: OK, take your time20:03
rustuptwistTJ-:  ok then I will copy and paste if possible20:04
TJ-Linnak: To ensure we get the latest packages to stay in sync with Debian longer20:04
ubottuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!20:04
TJ-rustuptwist: That's good - I'll provide all commands inside double-quote marks precisely as they should be run20:04
rustuptwistTJ-:  ok sounds good20:04
LinnakWhy is the fresness is more important than stability?20:05
TJ-rustuptwist: whilst we're waiting for hitsujiTMO we may as well start the back-up of sda4, since that won't upset anything20:05
bekksLinnak: Because you can choose between LTS and non-LTS.20:05
rustuptwistTJ-:  ok20:05
Linnakbekks, What do you mean?20:05
bekks!lts | Linnak20:06
ubottuLinnak: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)20:06
MonkeyDustLinnak  discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic please20:06
LinnakI know, but that wasn't a queston20:06
BeldarLinnak, You would have to ask canonical or look on the web as to why they choose the testing version.20:06
YamakasY_is it possible to update my local repo with puppet 3.x instead of 2.7 when using 12.04 ?20:07
dorothyHey guys!20:07
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: can you pastebin the output of: sudo lsblk -b20:07
kostkon!info puppet precise20:07
ubottupuppet (source: puppet): Centralized configuration management - agent startup and compatibility scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.11-1ubuntu2.7 (precise), package size 19 kB, installed size 337 kB20:07
TJ-rustuptwist: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda4 of=/dev/sda bs=512 seek=831899696"20:07
kostkonYamakasY_, find a ppa that provides 3.x packages for 12.04?20:07
JanaK Hi.  I'm trying to understand using /etc/fstab correctly.  I want to resize /dev/shm on boot.  I understand systemd handles it for default, but that we override in /etc/fstab.  My question is about the right usage in /etc/fstab.20:08
dorothyI had Fedora installed on my HDD, and then using fedora I deleted a 30 GB Fat32 partition, but then when I restarted the computer nothing worked, after my bios screen there was just a blinking cursor, so I installed Fedora 20 from a USB onto the 30GB of now free space of my HDD, but the installation failed halfway through and now my HDD which previously had a 700 GB NTFS partition with windows and all my files on it just shows up as a 1000GB LVM2 PV, an20:08
dorothyd I can no longer access my files. So it seems half way through the installation it failed to partition the drive properly and now all my files are gone... My drive now has one single 1000GB partition which says Contents LVM2 Physical Volume, so its made this logical volume which has taken over my actual partitions!20:08
dorothySo, what I would really really love advice for is how I can go about removing or redirecting the LVM partition back to NTFS, or basically in any way possible just boot into windows, from which I can reformat a portion of my drive, install fedora on it, and live happily ever after20:08
FloodBot1dorothy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:08
JanaKSpecifically,  I see online examples of fstab entries for it with "shm /dev/shm ...", "none /dev/shm ..." and "tmpfs /dev/shm".20:08
bekkstl;dr :)20:08
JanaKWhat's the right usage?20:08
YamakasY_kostkon: puppet has their own puppet repo for it, but I need to have 3.x installed during my preseed install20:08
TJ-rustuptwist: This will take some time and you won't see *anything* reported back until it finished, so be patient20:08
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816323/20:08
kostkondorothy, this is a ubuntu support channel20:09
MonkeyDustshe's already gone20:09
kostkonYamakasY_, right. can't help you on that20:10
rustuptwistTJ-:  ok pasted it. waiting on results20:10
YamakasY_kostkon: ok20:11
TJ-rustuptwist: Could be 10 minutes plus... be *very* patient20:11
hitsujiTMOTJ-: i would have set a much larger bs and downsized the seek. the seek times are gonne take forever20:11
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I did it that way to be able to use identifiable sector offsets in the seek value20:12
rustuptwistTJ-:  this is day #3 on this ubuntu install so we are learning patience...20:12
TJ-hitsujiTMO: We could stop it and redo it with 100MB bs ?20:13
hitsujiTMOTJ-: its gonna be copying over 512 bytes at a time and loosing about 10ms between every read and write20:13
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yup we could20:13
TJ-hitsujiTMO: not entirely... the kernel reads ahead into its cache20:13
TJ-hitsujiTMO: but yeah, a big block would help20:13
TJ-hitsujiTMO: care to do the math? :p20:14
hitsujiTMOTJ-: will do. give me a min20:14
TJ-hitsujiTMO: hehehe as long as the offset is divisible by the block-size with no remainder :)20:14
TJ-rustuptwist: You may be able to tell, hitsujiTMO and I are discussing cancelling the current copy and redoing it with a more efficient set of numbers that'll speed it up considerably20:15
rustuptwistTJ-:  yes I am observing. hoping I can learn a bit by irc-osmosis, lol20:16
dorothyHey sorry I had to restart on someones advice, what I asked was:20:16
dorothyI had Fedora installed on my HDD, and then using fedora I deleted a 30 GB Fat32 partition, but then when I restarted the computer nothing worked, after my bios screen there was just a blinking cursor, so I installed Fedora 20 from a USB onto the 30GB of now free space of my HDD, but the installation failed halfway through and now my HDD which previously had a 700 GB NTFS partition with windows and all my files on it just shows up as a 1000GB LVM2 PV, an20:16
dorothyd I can no longer access my files. So it seems half way through the installation it failed to partition the drive properly and now all my files are gone... My drive now has one single 1000GB partition which says Contents LVM2 Physical Volume, so its made this logical volume which has taken over my actual partitions!20:16
dorothySo, what I would really really love advice for is how I can go about removing or redirecting the LVM partition back to NTFS, or basically in any way possible just boot into windows, from which I can reformat a portion of my drive, install fedora on it, and live happily ever after20:16
FloodBot1dorothy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:16
dorothyDoes anyone have any idea20:16
k1ldorothy: this is not a fedora support channel. please see their support20:16
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto20:16
hitsujiTMOTJ-: ok, if we go for a bs of 1MB and a seek of 406201 this should start the data at offset 83189964820:17
dorothyHi kll, i've tried that but they have no idea, I thought it might be a more standard linux issue,20:17
dorothyhow to go about fixing a LVM partition that has overwritten a NTFS one20:17
k1ldorothy: then ask in ##linux. but this is a ubuntu support channel20:17
bekksdorothy: Restore your backup, generally.20:18
hitsujiTMOTJ-: we can cat yes to there for a count of 1 for a quick test to make sure20:18
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I was looking at using a multiple of the physical sector size... and came up with  bs=10485760020:19
hitsujiTMOTJ-: thats 100M20:19
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Yes... it'd put the start at seek=73400320020:20
Hilikushey guys. i have a really annoying problem that i imagine it must be created by a configuration but i can't find the cause. when i create a playlist of more than one song, playback stops at the end of every song when using the html5 player, when using VLC what happens is that at the end of the song it jumps back 5 seconds, plays again, at the ends jumps back 5 seconds, etc in an infinite loop20:20
TJ-hitsujiTMO: sorry, it'd put the start at sector 73400320020:21
hitsujiTMOTJ-: that would be a seek of 4062 and end up at 83189760020:21
HilikusAmpache 3.6-alpha6+FUTURE20:21
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I reckon your math is doing better than mine tonight :)20:21
TJ-hitsujiTMO: show me the intended values and I'll recheck it to be sure :)20:21
hitsujiTMOTJ-: just using the original sector counts: echo $((831899696 / (2048 * 100)))20:22
hitsujiTMOTJ-: echo $((831899696 / (2048 * 100) * 2048 * 100))20:22
TJ-hitsujiTMO: careful... integer rounding errors!20:22
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yup integers round dowm20:23
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I/O is 4096 ... I infer you use 2048 as the I/O size?20:23
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yup integers round down. hence why i multiply up again to get the effected sector start20:23
millertiPerform all of your sums and products first, and divide last.20:23
hitsujiTMOTJ-: no. base block size is 512, 2048 blocks is 1M.20:23
TJ-hitsujiTMO: which ought to be an integer multiple fo 409620:24
millertiWell, unless you WANT the truncation in a particular place.20:24
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yes, it is20:24
TJ-hitsujiTMO: using 4096 I get: "echo $((831899696 / (4096 * 50) * 4096 * 50))"  = 83189760020:25
millertiOk, so what do you want to calculate now?20:25
millertiHow many blocks are required for X bytes?20:25
millertiHow big is a block?20:26
hitsujiTMOTJ-: verifyable by: echo $(((697833471 - 552960000 + 1) * 512))                 being the total size matching the size reported here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816323/20:26
millertiLet F be the file size and B be the block size.  The number of blocks you need is (F+B-1)/B20:26
TJ-hitsujiTMO: looks good. Do you want to go ahead and tell rustuptwist  to cancel the current 'dd' or shall we show him how to get a status update via a USR1 signal first... it might be almsot done!20:27
millertiYou can get the on-disk bytes by ((F+B-1)/B)*B20:27
hitsujiTMOTJ-: get the status first20:27
millertiAssuming integer math.20:27
TJ-rustuptwist: Are you using a GUI shell terminal in that Live session?20:27
TJ-rustuptwist: if so, we need you to open an additional tab with a fresh shell in it, by ensuring that the terminal window has focus and then pressing Ctrl+Shift+T.20:28
hitsujiTMOmillerti: were're moving a partition to free space so we can create an extended volume in place.20:28
TJ-rustuptwist: then, you can so "sudo kill -USR1 $(pidof dd)" .... and tab back to the shell running dd. Shortly, you should see a status update telling how much data has been transferred and at what speed20:29
rustuptwistTJ-:  not sure if I am using a 'GUI  shell.20:29
TJ-rustuptwist: tell us what those numbers are, and we can decide whether its worth cancelling it to do it the more efficient way20:30
TJ-rustuptwist: If it is a window with a title-bar that says "Terminal" it is the GUI terminal application20:30
rustuptwistTJ-:  ok back up a second. what do i do 'right now'20:30
TJ-rustuptwist: if so, we need you to open an additional tab with a fresh shell in it, by ensuring that the terminal window has focus and then pressing Ctrl+Shift+T.20:30
rustuptwistTJ-:  top left hand corner of the desktop says Terminal.20:31
TJ-rustuptwist: That's good :) press Ctrl+Shift+T and you should get a new tab open with a command prompt20:32
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: so just hit: ctrl + shift + t, this will create a new tab20:32
rustuptwistTJ-:  so I should enter sudo kill, etc20:32
TJ-rustuptwist: You should now have a fresh shell prompt and you can do "sudo kill -USR1 $(pidof dd)" .... and tab back to the shell running dd. Shortly, you should see a status update telling how much data has been transferred and at what speed20:32
TJ-hitsujiTMO: by now I bet its almost done :)20:33
hitsujiTMOTJ-: hopefully at least20:33
starrats I have been using the win7 partition and format screen from the control panel and wubi shows up to help, I follow all the instructions and when I get to the last window asking me to reboot now or reboot later or reboot with cd help I choose the last one i.e. reboot with cd help, I presume it means the livecd in the D drive and when I reboot I get the purple screen with the red dots doing their thing and then nothing happens,20:33
starrats[15:27] <starrats> this is my problem in a nutshell20:33
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Last time I did this it was 500GB to a clone drive over xmas, and it hit errors which turned out to be a bad memory module20:34
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816267/20:34
hitsujiTMOTJ-: ahh lol. RAM's one thing i've never had trouble with at least.20:34
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: 16561449+0 records in 16561449+0 records out 8479461888 bytes (8.5 GB) copied, 1387.93 s, 6.1 MB/s20:34
hitsujiTMOTJ-: ~11%done20:35
TJ-rustuptwist: OK, only 8.5GB copied of 72GB ... so we'll stop it. Press Ctrl+C to stop dd20:35
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816460/20:35
TJ-hitsujiTMO: You want to do a test run with "yes" to be sure?20:35
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hitsujiTMOTJ-: yeah. would be best so we can be absolutle sure we know whats going on20:36
poeticrpmIm at a hotel where I have to plug in to an ethernet port and put in an assigned username and password. What is this technically called? Im having issues with DD-WRT and I cant seem to even get the basic terminology to research how to get shit working20:36
TJ-hitsujiTMO: there is another way we could do this... use losetup -o XXXX /dev/loop0 /dev/sda :)20:37
TJ-hitsujiTMO: You go ahead give rustuptwist the commands then... I need to go sort out a couple of unruly huskies!20:37
hitsujiTMOTJ-: cool20:37
Sna4x81Here's a funny "bug".  I walk around my house for a bit, the sit down at my desk and touch my mouse.   That causes a static discharge (it's like the doorknob in Office Space).  The x-axis inverts.  WTF?  Happens like twice a day.20:38
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Beldarpoeticrpm, Please be careful with swear words here, I know it seems innocuous but it's not allowed is all.20:38
TJ-hitsujiTMO: we can use losetup after the copy to do an fsck on the file-system before we start changing the partition table20:38
starratsAnyone that help me with my problem would be much appreciated.  I logged it in here at the 15:33 time mark and this isconcerning ubuntu install.20:38
poeticrpmBeldar: sorry. frustrated and didnt realize it20:38
Beldar!language | Sna4x81 no acronyms20:38
ubottuSna4x81 no acronyms: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.20:38
MonkeyDustpoeticrpm  you mean use the light net for networking? i guess it's called powerlan (i'm using it too)20:40
BrainBugHello, I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 with Ati HD3400 series card. Dash is slow on opening (typing), and cpu cooler is making lot of noise. Probably due too default driver (Gallium 0.4 AMD RV620 - Mesa). So i tried installing Proprietary drivers to fix this, but x crashes (1.14 xorg) anyone?20:42
loki_llutz: just ran one of the rsyncs and it completed successfully.  thanks for your help20:42
rustuptwistTJ-:  did i miss something?20:42
loki_hitsujiTMO: thanks for your help as well20:42
GJS123Hi, i got and error Sorry, Ubuntu 13.10 has experienced an internal error? Where can i find the output of that (except my xwindow system)?20:42
poeticrpmMonkeyDust, Powerlan? I dont see any references to this online. What do you mean by light net? Let me try to be clear: I type- http://hotelimat.net/login. Then it brings up a page with a username and login and their logo. I cant seem to get my router to go to this place, but my computer will go straight away20:43
TJ-rustuptwist: sorry, dealing with some unruly huskies... I left hitsujiTMO to give you the revised instructions, I think he's still checking them20:44
rustuptwistTJ-:  ok20:44
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hitsujiTMOTJ-: ahh seems yes can't be used. will have to try with urandom + zero instad20:45
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok we're gonna start with a quick test: ""sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=$((512 * 2048)) seek=406201 count=1""20:45
starratsSorry to be a pain in the ass here, lol but is there someone here to help me with an install problem?20:46
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  type that in to the Terminal20:46
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: yes, whats inside the quotes "" ""20:46
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  the original window or the 2nd?20:46
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ashishi m using zte modem20:47
ashishmost of the time it is not detected by network manager20:47
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: either will do20:47
ashishsometimes its detected20:47
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: wait, did you cancel the original dd on the first window with ctrl + c?20:48
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  no20:48
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: do it20:49
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: then run that command i gave20:49
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: =406201 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1048576 bytes (1.0 MB) copied, 0.310227 s, 3.4 MB/s too late20:49
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: Are you using the PC we are working on?20:50
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo apt-get install pastebinit20:50
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  control C gave this: 16561449+0 records in 16561449+0 records out 8479461888 bytes (8.5 GB) copied, 1387.93 s, 6.1 MB/s ^C28311609+0 records in 28311609+0 records out 14495543808 bytes (14 GB) copied, 2375.77 s, 6.1 MB/s20:50
rustuptwistTJ-:  only to send you the results of the commands via Terminal20:51
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: thats ok.20:51
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=2 seek=831899647 | hexdump -C | pastebinit20:52
TJ-rustuptwist: It helps a great deal to see the actual output like that, especially when we're directing use of powerful commands20:52
starratsI guess everyone is busy with other nicks problems20:53
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: dd: `standard output': cannot seek: Illegal seek 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.0011683 s, 0.0 kB/s You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.20:53
rustuptwistTJ-:  I must say I am a bit confused but I hope it is going as expected20:54
TJ-rustuptwist: You're confused?!? You should try it from this end :D20:54
rustuptwistTJ-:  lol20:55
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: can you make sure you put in what i gave you exactly20:55
rustuptwistTJ-:  are we on the right track though, I feel left behind a bit as if I missed the train20:55
TJ-hitsujiTMO: It's "skip" not "seek" for reads20:55
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  sure did i not input what you gave me correctly?20:55
hitsujiTMOTJ-: doh20:56
imaginati0nI am trying to set a background in openbox but for some reason nitrogen wont open any of my pictures?20:56
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=2 skip=831899647 | hexdump -C | pastebinit20:56
TJ-rustuptwist: Yes, once we get going, you'll be able to return to the Ubuntu installer and there will be free space in the partition table for it to install itself.20:56
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: 2+0 records in 2+0 records out 1024 bytes (1.0 kB) copied, 0.273173 s, 3.7 kB/s http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816570/20:57
Beldarstarrats, Wubi is not really supported anymore and few here use it, the general recommendation would be to do a standard install, or use a virtual.20:58
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok now: ""sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=$((512 * 2048)) seek=406201 count=1""20:58
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then finally: sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=2 skip=831899647 | hexdump -C | pastebinit20:59
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: if all goes well, we should see the output differ from the half way mark20:59
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: 6201 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1048576 bytes (1.0 MB) copied, 0.00337199 s, 311 MB/s21:00
MartynKeigherhey all. have a redis-server issue. anyone able to help me in here?21:00
bekksMartynKeigher: Whats "redis-server" - is it Ubuntu?21:01
MartynKeigherim installing ON ubuntu yes.21:01
ashishhi i need help in network manager21:01
bekksMartynKeigher: So what is it?21:01
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: is there a pastebin output from that last command?21:01
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: 2+0 records in 2+0 records out 1024 bytes (1.0 kB) copied, 0.000338222 s, 3.0 MB/s http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816587/21:01
ashishzte make modem not detected in network manager21:01
Gandihey there, in my boot.log i found * Starting [164G[ OK ] (what is that?) - has no name!21:02
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: great, thats good21:02
rustuptwistTJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816587/21:02
MartynKeigherwell im trying to start the service using sudo /etc/init.d/redis-server start but its just returning "Starting redis-server: failed"21:02
k1lashish: how is the modem connected?21:02
TJ-rustuptwist: hitsujiTMO: looks like you're all set now21:02
MartynKeigheri know that doesnt too much... but all im trying to do is start something i just installed.21:02
hitsujiTMOTJ-: wait, bot 100% good. i was expecting it to change halway21:02
ashishi connected it with wvdial21:02
MartynKeigheran edit to the config was required (commenting out one line) and i did that.. and i just wont start21:02
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: can you run: sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=2 skip=831899646 | hexdump -C | pastebinit21:02
ashishno mobile broadband option is coming in netowrk manager21:03
TJ-hitsujiTMO: It did... first time around 0x0200 had random data ... now its all zeros21:03
MartynKeigherso i re-commented it and it still wouldnt start!?21:03
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  Ok just a sec21:03
k1lashish: which cable?21:03
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yup, but i was expecting it to read from 512 bits before the start of where it was writing to21:03
ashishk1|no its usb modem21:04
TJ-hitsujiTMO: ahhh, OK21:04
hitsujiTMOTJ-: so the first 512bits should have been still random21:04
k1lashish: so show the line in "lsusb" that is your modem21:04
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816596/21:04
ashishk1|YES ITS THERE21:04
hitsujiTMOTJ-: gonna have to revise my calcs21:04
k1lashish: we cant see it21:04
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  did you need the text before that pastebin?21:05
ashishk1| how to show here21:05
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: What are you and sonofrustuptwist attempting to do/test?21:05
kostkon!paste | ashish21:05
ubottuashish: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:05
k1ljust copy and paste the one line21:05
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: nope. 2 mins gonna revise calcs21:05
TJ-hitsujiTMO: OK :)21:05
ashishBus 003 Device 008: ID 19d2:ffe9 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM21:05
imaginati0nI was using openbox when it crashed and it sent me back to my login screen ,how do i stop openbox from crashing?21:06
TJ-hitsujiTMO: would it help if I create a 500GB layout here and do the tests?21:06
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hitsujiTMOTJ-: actually wait. dont need to. we can dd if=blah | dd of=blah     with 2 different block sizes :)21:06
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Yes :)21:06
rick_wat is dit voor een chat21:07
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k1lashish: see this thread, they solved the issue http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/193096-zte-ac682-modem-not-working-ubuntu-12-04-a.html21:08
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok, lets get this party started: ""sudo dd if=/dev/sda4 of=/dev/sda bs=$((512 * 2048 * 100)) seek=4061""21:08
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: What are you and sonofrustuptwist attempting to do/test?21:09
Gallomimiawhat? don't you think that will delete the input file as the output file is written?21:09
starratsBeldar, okay, I'm currently using VirtualBox and hav xubuntu install on that which is how I am here chatting with you, guess I stick to xubuntu after all but thank you for your response21:09
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  done. I imagine it will be a long wait for a response?21:10
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: create an extened partition in place of an existing partition, while dumping the existing partition to the unallocated free space21:10
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: it will, give it a few mins and then we'll see how fast its going21:10
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: And what is the end goal?21:11
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: And do you mean a logical partition (which is a partition inside an extended partition)?21:11
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: the user has a mbr partition with 4 partitions, none extended. creating an extended partition in place of the last partition. then creating a logical partition to house the old sda421:12
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: With the end goal of being able to have more than 4 partitions?21:15
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: yes21:15
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: So are you trying to conserve the contents of all of the original 4 partitions?21:16
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: yes. right now we're just writing the partition to free space. the user doesn't have a spare drive to use an an interim storage21:17
TJ-hitsujiTMO: back :)21:19
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok, in the other terminal tab can you run: sudo kill -USR1 $(pidof dd)21:19
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: we can then guestimate when the operation will be finished21:20
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  ok just a min21:20
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: fixparts can often convert a partition from primary to logical-within-extended in place.21:20
Thor446_I (finally!) have Ubuntu working! However, I can't seem to connect to wifi. It just loads for a minute then says Im offline, I was disconnected21:21
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: is the result i think: 248+0 records in 247+0 records out 25899827200 bytes (26 GB) copied, 690.886 s, 37.5 MB/s21:22
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: And gdisk can usually convert to GPT in place, which would solve the problem of being able to add more partitions very cleanly (though would be problematic if this is a dual boot with Windows senario).21:22
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: yes its a dual boot scenario21:23
jarainfI want to install OpenWRT on my Alice Modem WLAN 112121:24
jarainfHow would I go on about that?21:24
daftykinsjarainf: that is not an ubuntu support question i'm afraid21:26
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: seeing no info on man fixparts for doing such a thing. there's the "l" option to convert to logical but also states: This option will only work if the current partition layout supports such  a  change.     doesn't state what the layout requirements are21:27
DJonesjarainf: Maybe worth trying in #openwrt for that21:27
extorMy /bin and /boot directories are gone. I cannot launch a shell. I do have some gnome functionality. Is there any way I can use the software center to recover these files? A console proggy would be very useful21:28
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok, can you run it once again: sudo kill -USR1 $(pidof dd)21:29
Gallomimiaextor my number 1 suggestion is to pop the drive out and mount it on a functioning system to recover all the files you need, then reformat it21:30
extorGallomimia, I'd rather reinstall on the same drive21:31
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Jordan_U: fixparts is no good in the this scenario since the MBR is full, and there are no inter-partition gaps to slip an extended into.21:31
Gallomimiayes. but recover the files to something quick21:31
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: 465+0 records in 464+0 records out 48653926400 bytes (49 GB) copied, 1326.47 s, 36.7 MB/s21:32
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sweet another few mins and this bit is done21:32
TJ-rustuptwist: hitsujiTMO: That transfer rate looks more respectable21:32
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gnrlhello, looking for a script or program for cleaning up trash in my computer21:39
gnrlsay, when i delete something, it goes into those .trash1000 folders or something21:40
hitsujiTMOgnrl: are you using unity?21:40
kostkon!info bleachbit | gnrl, this this:21:40
ubottugnrl, this this:: bleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1 (saucy), package size 356 kB, installed size 1891 kB21:40
gnrlhitsujiTMO: i am on 12.04 ubuntu with gnome 221:41
gnrlkostkon ubottu ok i will take a look at bleachbit21:41
gnrlthank you21:41
harrishow can i just the alt shortcuts for spanish keys21:42
harrislike in windows21:42
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jirido__Hi does anyone know where clipit parcellite saves its history or if it is database?21:43
hitsujiTMOharris: setup your keyboard correctly in system settings -> text entry21:43
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: can you check if its finished21:43
hitsujiTMOharris: add the keyboard layout pertaining to your keyboard. then set that as the default layout21:44
millertiWow.  #ubuntu has the highest number of people of all channels on freenode.21:45
extorgksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator21:46
OerHeksjirido__, clipit asks when you run it 1st time, to save clips in a plain text file, with warning about passwords21:46
harrishitsujiTMO,  i want to use these http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/spanish-alt-codes.php21:46
jirido__OerHeks: Yes but when i look in this file i see only yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy and the strange sign :P21:47
Ben64harris: you can't use windows' alt codes in ubuntu. you can, however, use unicode21:47
hitsujiTMOharris: ahh, they're for use with the key pad. Not sure if they'll work with ubuntu. not familiar with such entry i'm afraid21:47
harrisBen64,  what is uinicode21:48
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: can you check if its finished21:48
* harris is away: I'm busy21:48
* harris is back (gone 00:00:00)21:48
extorhow can I add a launcher to gnome, so that it launches as another user rather than the current user?  Kind of like "run as" in windows for a shortcut.21:48
* harris is away: I'm busy21:48
* harris is back (gone 00:00:00)21:48
Ben64harris: don't do the away stuff here21:49
jirido__OerHeks: i just found its location on ggogle21:49
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  sorry was distracted21:49
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  what is the command the same as before sudo kill, etc21:49
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: just check the original tab21:50
Ampelbeinextor: You could use gksudo for that (gksudo -u OTHERUSER /usr/bin/someprogram)21:50
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: i'm guessing its done now21:50
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  yes. 74gb copied21:50
Minneni tried to drag&drop an icon to the destop and instead of appearing in the desktop it appeared in the top toolbar and i dont know how to remove it from there (specs - Ubuntu 13.10, Gnome 3 (session fallback no effects), Faenza icons, Ambiance theme.)  http://askubuntu.com/questions/410733/remove-icon-from-the-toolbar21:50
hitsujiTMOTJ-: ok, we're in busines21:50
TJ-hitsujiTMO: OK, lets set up a loop device and fsck the backup first21:51
extorAmpelbein, so "gksu -u <some su enabled account> /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator" would be all I need?21:51
TJ-hitsujiTMO: In all the fun I missed the actual seek offset... what was it, and what block size?21:51
harrisBen64, how21:51
phil-nsMinnen: try holding ALT while right clicking it.21:51
hitsujiTMOTJ-:  it was ""sudo dd if=/dev/sda4 of=/dev/sda bs=$((512 * 2048 * 100)) seek=4061""21:52
Ampelbeinextor: It doesn't have to be a su-enabled account, it just has to exist on the same machine.21:52
Ampelbeinextor: You own account must have su rights though.21:52
Minnenphil-ns > it launched the app, nothing else21:52
extorAmpelbein, my own account does NOT have su rights. The su user is another one21:52
Minnenphil-ns > correction, right-click displays the remove option21:53
extorthat must be why it's not launching21:53
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Minnenphil-ns > thank you21:53
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: IIRC, there needs to be enough space between the partitions since entries for logical partitions are held in a linked list rather than in the MBR.21:53
TJ-hitsujiTMO: So, the byte offset will be 42582671360021:53
Gallomimiasu != sudo21:53
phil-nsMinnen: I believe with gnome you need ALT right click for any changes you want.21:53
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: fixparts will tell you if it's possible or not.21:53
MonkeyDustextor  su means switch user21:53
TJ-rustuptwist: hitsujiTMO: Can you now do "sudo losetup -o 425826713600  /dev/loop1 /dev/sda"21:54
extorMonkeyDust, but gksu doesnt need the current gnome user to have su rights, does it21:54
rustuptwistTJ-:  ok just a min21:54
TJ-rustuptwist: If you don't get an error back from that, we now have the back-up data as a 'virtual' device called /dev/loop1, which we will now check21:54
Ampelbeinextor: It does.21:54
MonkeyDustextor  yes, but gksudo really means gksudo :)21:54
MonkeyDustextor  yes, but gksu really means gksudo :)21:55
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rustuptwistTJ-:  done21:55
Ampelbeinextor: Just run the command in a terminal and look what error message it gives.21:55
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: I dont have any mbr drives atm so no way for me to verify that. maybe TJ- can21:55
extorAmpelbein, so I am currently a non su enabled user running gnome. My /bin directory is kaput. How do I run a binary in /usr/bin from the gnome panel then from which I can try and repair stuff?21:55
TJ-rustuptwist: hitsujiTMO: lets ensure you have the tools required first: "sudo apt-get install dosfstools"21:55
extorAmpelbein, I dont have a terminal, I'm trying to GET a terminal21:55
rustuptwistTJ-:  no error message(s)21:56
Gallomimiatry alt-ctrl-f4?21:56
bekksextor: /usr/bin/terminal21:56
extorbekks, does that exist? :O21:56
TJ-rustuptwist: OK, lets first check there is something recognisable there: "sudo blkid /dev/loop1 | pastebinit"21:56
MonkeyDustextor  or gnome-terminal21:57
Ampelbeinextor: Either you use /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator (which should point to the terminal of your choice) or one of the virtual terminals that you can reach via "CTRL-ALT-F1 -> F4".21:57
OerHeksextor, you want to try to repair without root priv?21:58
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816878/21:58
extorAmpelbein, but /bin/bash is gone21:58
extorOerHeks, I can get root if I can su to the sudo user somehow, in a terminal21:58
jobriathEvening all. Are there any graphics tablet people around? I have a known-working Monoprice UC-Logic 5433:0781 that looks like it works---`xinput --test` even prints X and Y coordinates and pressure levels---but the pen doesn't move the cursor.21:59
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816890/21:59
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sweet.22:00
Ampelbeinextor: If /bin/ is gone, how do you plan on repairing the system at all? What without cp, mv, etc.22:00
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: looking good, now do "sudo dosfsck -n /dev/loop1 | pastebinit"22:00
extorAmpelbein, I'd copy those from somewhere after a reboot into a liveCD22:00
ZCitruso/ dudes. I was about to try to set up a dual boot of steamos, and I figured I should make sure that the drive I was about to overwrite was indeed empty. When I opened it up in gparted, under "Flags" it says boot....but I did not think that was the drive I was booting off of22:01
Ampelbeinextor: How do you copy without cp, mv etc?22:01
extorUnfortunately my ubuntu distro 10.04 is no longer supported22:01
bekksAmpelbein: A live cd has those tools.22:01
extorAmpelbein, I do it with filezilla to a temp place and then boot via a live CD22:01
bekksextor: Then take that chance and reinstall 12.0422:01
ZCitrusDoes the gparted "boot" flag indeed mean that's the drive I'm booting off of? If so, that's...weird.22:01
horsesCanFlyHello people, I have a doubt. I have hybrid graphics. Nvidia and integrated intel. And never use this before. There is any advantage on using intel over nvidia using bumblebee or like low temperatures on intel in comparation to nvdia or I shouldn't even bother with bumblebee and using the nvidia card?22:01
extorwell problem is it will be a live DVD22:02
Ampelbeinbekks, extor Then why don't you use the livecd to start and rebuild your system from there?22:02
bekksZCitrus: The boot flag is irrelevant for two decaded now.22:02
bekksAmpelbein: Thats what I just suggested.22:02
extorAmpelbein, because I don't have a cdrom installed, just usbs22:02
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816898/22:02
ZCitrusOK, so the fact that it only shows 7.5GB used in gparted would then be indicative that, basically, the only data being "used" is just whatever's lost due to formatting?22:02
bekksextor: You can install 12.04 from USB.22:03
extorbekks...what should I download then22:03
GallomimiahorsesCanFly: seems the nvidia drivers have better support than integrated intel. i think... all depends where you plug in the monitor. is that a laptop or desktop?22:03
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bekksZCitrus: Sorry, you sentence doesnt make any sense. Please rephrase it.22:03
bekksextor: The 12.04 installation cd iso.22:03
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: hmmm! lets hold up a minute ... looks like the pastebin didn't capture all the output, can you redo it for us with "sudo dosfsck -n 2>&1 | pastebinit"22:03
bekks!usb | extor22:04
ubottuextor: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent22:04
hitsujiTMOTJ-: so i'm thinking we create the logical partition with start:552960000 end:831488000 so there's no way of overwriting the current backup. He can resize it then after everything is completely converted22:04
rustuptwistTJ-: ok just a sec22:04
Ampelbeinextor: But I think you need root rights to write an iso to usb. I could be wrong.22:04
b1tgl0wAre there any websites where people share configuration files?22:05
extorAmpelbein, I will get root rights by booting my slax usb22:05
Gallomimiano. i think the user who mounts a usb can have full access to it22:05
horsesCanFlyGallomimia, it is a laptop. If there was an advantage on making the laptop cooler I would read more about the stuff22:05
hitsujiTMOb1tbkt: pastebin, paste.ubuntu.com, gist.github.com and about 1 million more22:05
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I was planning we'd delete sda4, create an extended to cover the entire disk, then create sda5 with the 'default' start and give it the size as an absolute number of sectors as +14487347222:06
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ZCitrusbekks, basically I'm just looking for a way to ensure that what I think is a blank drive is, in fact, blank22:06
TJ-hitsujiTMO: once we've zapped sda4, the extended will likely start close to the same place, and sda5 would start about 1MB further in from there22:06
jribb1tgl0w: dotshare.it, dotfiles.org, and github are good bets22:07
bekksZCitrus: Erase it, intentionally, to be sure.22:07
b1tgl0wjrib: ty22:07
rustuptwistTJ-:  im getting error message saying "you are trying to send an empty document, exiting"22:07
GallomimiahorsesCanFly: sounds like it might, in theory. i should say probably the only way to know is try it in several configurations. i've heard of people able to run both gpu's or just one. unfortunately i'm no expert in video drivers. they hurt my head :( maybe someone else can chime in... maybe they're all proper busy for the moment22:07
ZCitrusbut the point would be that if there was something on there i would want to keep it!22:07
TJ-rustuptwist: hmmm... let me recheck my typing22:07
ZCitrusbut i guess what it looks like i should do is figure out which drive corresponds to /sdb/, go on there, check to see22:07
SchrodingersScatZCitrus: maybe you mean space that ext4 leaves for root?22:07
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yeah, ok. I'm just worried in case the extended writes to the end of the partition aswell.22:07
ZCitrusprobably? that sounds reasonable22:08
TJ-rustuptwist: doh! I forgot to give the drive name! "sudo dosfsck -n /dev/loop1 2>&1 | pastebinit"22:08
ZCitrusI just know when I opened up gparted, I saw that 1) there was a flag of "boot" and 2) there were 7.5GB marked as "used"22:08
bekksZCitrus: How is that related to "I want to be sure wether the device is empty"?22:08
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I've never seen that happen, the extended is a single sector that looks like an MBR in layout, but only fills 2 slots, one for a logical, and a 2nd pointing to the next extended in the chain, which'll be put immediately after sda522:09
ZCitrusBecause I'm worried there is stuff on the device?22:09
ZCitrusSpecifically, stuff I wouldn't want to lose.\22:09
Gallomimiaif you're worried stuff is on the device, back it up?22:09
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yeah, i'b just thinking of gpt where it writes a back to the end of the drive22:09
bekksZCitrus: Then backup the device?22:09
horsesCanFlyGallomimia, I see a lot of people using the optimus technology and I was wondering if there was any good effects on doing that. The only reason I can remember is the temperature thing. Right now I'm using22:09
TJ-hitsujiTMO: We could start of by limiting the size of the extended itself so it ends before the start of the back-up, and then change that later to the entire drive?22:09
ZCitrusI think before I back up something that may or may not be on there, I should probably just figure out if there is anything on there.22:10
ZCitrusSo that's what I'm going to do22:10
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816931/22:10
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yeah, thats what i was suggesting with the above start and end points22:10
bekksZCitrus: And you dont need any boot flags for doing that.22:10
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I'm a bit concerned about dosfsck appearing to report 0 FATs !22:10
TJ-hitsujiTMO: ahhh, you said 'logical' which to me meant sda5, not the extended partition :)22:10
horsesCanFlyGallomimia, I just remember on asking here because there is a lot of people. Was hopping that someone knew :P22:10
hitsujiTMOTJ-: is it ntfs?22:10
ZCitrusYeah, the deal with the boot flag was simply, I saw the boot flag, and was worried that it means ubuntu (which I thought was installed ona  different drive) was installed on that drive, and that's what the boot flag meant22:10
ZCitrusApparently I was wrong22:10
TJ-hitsujiTMO: oh. my. god.!! My brain has gone22:11
hitsujiTMOTJ-: lol woops sorry, yeah meant extened22:11
TJ-rustuptwist: sorry, my fault, I was thinking it was a FAT32 partition, not NTFS!!!! let me get you the correct command!22:11
hitsujiTMOTJ-: happens after a long day22:11
GallomimiahorsesCanFly: i'm sure some of the people talking now can help you. seems exceedingly busy for the moment. i must take my leave tho. sorry, i've never heard of optimus. would like to sit around and learn22:11
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Yeah, but when doing this stuff got to be 100% correct all the time!22:11
hitsujiTMOTJ-: true22:12
SchrodingersScathorsesCanFly: I've been warned against using that transformer optimus prime stuff.22:12
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TJ-rustuptwist: Please check we have the NTFS tools installed, with "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"22:12
solsTiCehi. I have a philips tv 32 " but it shows up as 'vestel elektronik sanayi ve ticaret A.S. 7"' in display settings once i have plugged in the hdmi cable. wtf ! why is that ?who/what determines the named displayed there ?22:12
horsesCanFlyGallomimia, ah no problem man. I heard of it but I never had one. Is my first. I was using an ati before22:12
SailorRRRHi, I just made a bootable USB stick. How can I install ubuntu from within Win 8 secure boot HP 2000 series ?22:12
horsesCanFlySchrodingersScat, hum, why?22:13
GallomimiahorsesCanFly: i have an ati gpu, on an asus overclocked@factory board. the driver support is puke :(22:13
Gallomimianvidia is much better usually22:13
jhutchinshorsesCanFly: That's the dual GPU thing that's handled by things like bumblebee, right?22:13
phil-nsSailorRRR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:13
SchrodingersScathorsesCanFly: heard it was just a PITA and buggy, but if you're stuck with it then what you gonna do?22:13
hitsujiTMOjhutchins: bumblebee or nvidia-prime22:14
horsesCanFlyGallomimia, I never had problems with my ati :P. I was using the proprietary drivers22:14
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816945/22:14
horsesCanFlyjhutchins, yes it is. I was just asking arround if someone has experience with it. Not asking for instructions on configuring it22:14
GallomimiahorsesCanFly: i've heard the issue is that my board is jerry-rigged at the factory. overclocked and some other strange stuff. it gives me a lot of grief, but i have it working. when things don't crash, it runs fast :)22:15
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: now lets check the file-system: "sudo ntfsinfo -m /dev/loop1 2>&1 | pastebinit"22:16
longviewbitsIn terms of stability first, and maintainability second... if using something outside the repos is what you're going to do, is a PPA better, or is doing build-dep for $PACKAGE and building it from source better?22:17
horsesCanFlyGallomimia, nice :D22:17
sonofrustuptwistTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816959/22:18
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TJ-sonofrustuptwist: That looks good, I think we are in business22:19
TJ-hitsujiTMO: how do you want to do this? fdisk and we give directions?22:19
hitsujiTMOTJ-: fdisk would be best. gives the most control22:20
SailorRRRwow worked22:20
Wiz_KeeDI sent my notebook to warranty because the wireless adapter croaked, and now they said they replaced it but it's TOTALLY a different brand/manufacturer that's installed, and it looks limited to a certain speed, how can I test that before I go back yelling at them?22:20
hitsujiTMOTJ-: or cfdisk22:20
TJ-hitsujiTMO: You take over again... I need to rest my brain... am thinking we leave /dev/loop1 up it shouldn't interfere and we need it later for bringing the data back22:20
bekksWiz_KeeD: The replaced a defective part. The is no guarantee whatsoever that those replacements have to be the very same model.22:21
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: TJ-: ok. give me a min. gonna boot up a machine with an mbr partition so i can see whats happening22:21
Wiz_KeeDArn't they supposed to replace with the same module part the the notebook came with it?22:21
bekksWiz_KeeD: No.22:21
Wiz_KeeDI mean what the hell I think it's common sense22:21
gr8hi. whats currently the best open source text-to-speech (TTS) software for Linux?22:22
ekarlso/win 3722:22
Wiz_KeeDThen the drivers for this computer regarding wireless don't apply anymore22:22
bekksWiz_KeeD: Then replace the drivers. Thats common sense.22:22
Wiz_KeeDsorry but I don't agree22:22
Wiz_KeeDespecially if it's inferior in performance22:22
bekksWiz_KeeD: Then go yelling at them and wait for there answer :P22:22
Wiz_KeeDI see no reason why I should get an inferior part when I paid like everyone else and they get the better product22:23
Wiz_KeeDyep, will do22:23
bekksWiz_KeeD: lsusb / lspci are the commands needed to identify the hardware.22:23
bekksWiz_KeeD: Dont complain you havent been warned afterwards.22:23
Ketamine_Just getting into the game, anything greatly appreciated. Pweeese.22:24
Ketamine_Cryptsy: 912e35c2dc1316cd9eea19e31768ff27f20fddef22:24
Ketamine_BTC: 1MHPQCbkJ6uyD2kpZveNpXdjG396duaYVw22:24
Ketamine_LTC: LNtbFxtr1gEpPnvubT314HNSX2zAFpa37X22:24
Ketamine_DOGE: DJ1NXr9WLv2Wqda4mCTW5K71NRaUrNVdDX22:24
Ketamine_PP: o24@usa.com22:24
Ketamine_Thanks in advance, send a message if you want in on some profit sharing.22:24
hitsujiTMOwow peeps are begging for bitcoin now22:25
Wiz_KeeDHow can I test the wireless speed that the adapter can handle?22:25
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  really? how so22:25
bekksWiz_KeeD: By looking up the specifications of the make/model identified by lsusb/lspci22:26
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: look at ketamine_ above ^ :22:26
jobriathI don't know. "Pweeese" was a pretty persuasive argument...22:27
bekksjobriath: "Can I haz bitcoin pweeese?" :)22:27
Wiz_KeeDRT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe22:28
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  is that what that was. I was wondering about all that data typed in, ok22:28
jobriathWhy, of course you ca--- wait a minute...22:28
jobriathRepost in case any evdev/input/graphics tablet people have logged on: I have a known-working Monoprice UC-Logic 5433:0781 that looks like it works---`xinput --test` even prints X and Y coordinates and pressure levels---but the pen doesn't move the cursor. Any ideas?22:29
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: 2 more mins. just starting up a vm now22:30
TJ-hitsujiTMO: rustuptwist: Using fdisk I think all we need do is follow this sequence of command-key presses "d 4" "n e Enter Enter" "n l 5 Enter +144873472" "p" "w"22:30
TJ-rustuptwist: To make that clearer, we start 'fdisk /dev/sda'. It requires single key-presses as commands, we "delete partition 4" (d 4), "create an extended partition covering the entire remainder of the drive" (n e Enter enter), "create a new logical partition #5 of 72GB" (n l 5 Enter +144873472) "print the partition table" (p) and finally "write changes to disk" (w).22:32
rustuptwistTJ-:  enter all that?22:32
TJ-rustuptwist: don't do anything yet, I'm just briefing you on what to expect22:32
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: ok, im in: sudo fdisk /dev/sda22:32
rustuptwistTJ-:  ok22:32
rustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  enter the above22:33
TJ-rustuptwist: hitsujiTMO is going to give instructions, and is simulating it in a Virtual Machine now22:33
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: yup so open the terminal and run: sudo fdisk /dev/sda22:33
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  message: 'The device presents a logical sector size that is smaller than the physical sector size. Aligning to a physical sector (or optimal I/O) size boundary is recommended, or performance may be impacted.  Command (m for help): '22:35
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: just ignore that error.22:35
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok, so start with: d22:36
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then: 422:36
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: that will delete the sda422:36
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then: n      to create a new partition22:37
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: e            for extended22:37
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: it should suggest a first sector of: 552960000                  is this correct?22:38
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  something  happened on my macbook connection in the channel, just a second22:40
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: say when you're ready and let me know what stage you're at22:41
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: i'm PM'ing you do you see it?22:41
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: no22:41
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: your connection timed out. reconnect22:42
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sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: strange22:44
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: ok lets take it from the top22:44
hitsujiTMOrustuptwist: yup so open the terminal and run: sudo fdisk /dev/sda22:44
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  last thing i got from you was ignore that message22:44
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  did that once, do it again?22:45
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: no22:45
odie5533When I do `su <user>` is it supposed to automatically take me to that user's home directory?22:45
Wiz_KeeDI have made two ext4 partitions for ubuntu but I can see them in windows and the only option is to format them, how can I hide them so they are not visible in windows anymore?22:46
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: type "p"       this will list your currtent partitions22:46
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  when i did that i got that message that you told me to ignore22:46
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: meaning the previous command not 'P"22:46
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: yup. thats ok. you should have an interactive session now in fdisk still. hit "p" to list the table22:47
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  ok you need to see the output?22:47
Wiz_KeeDI thought windows could not see ext4 partitions22:47
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: nope. you should see your 4 partitions as of now22:47
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  yes sda1-422:48
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: now: d           <- delete a partition22:48
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  just 'd' ??22:48
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: yup22:48
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then: 4     to delete sda422:49
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: p              will show you the table without sda422:49
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: what?22:49
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  sda1 through sda/4 showed when i typed 'p'22:50
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: you hit d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>                 right?22:51
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: you there22:51
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  ok22:51
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: is it now showing 3 partitions?22:52
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  good to go so far just three sda's listed now22:52
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  yes 3 partitions22:52
DF3D2hey hitsujiTMO22:52
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok: n <enter> e <enter>                                       this should output a prompt  ending with: """default 552960000):"""    is that correct?22:53
monty_hallanybody know if ctrl+11 is used by kubuntu?22:53
hitsujiTMODF3D2: hey22:53
monty_hallcan't seem to see it in key mappings22:53
monty_hallit's used by eclipse22:53
monty_hallwas wondering if it was being intercepted22:53
monty_hallby kde22:53
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  yes22:53
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then hit <enter>   just once22:54
DF3D2hitsujiTMO, yesterday you helped me doing a chroot, Is this the correct order of the commands? I will need to do it on several more drives soon -- and I didn't know if I copied it all down correctly http://pastebin.com/GNfZ9gDu22:54
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  message: 'Using default value 552960000 Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (552960000-976773167, default 976773167): '22:54
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: for the last sector specify: 831488000 <enter>22:54
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  ok just a sec22:55
hitsujiTMODF3D2: /dev before /dev/pts22:55
DF3D2hitsujiTMO, ahh I knew there was something, thanks22:55
DF3D2so really I could make a shell script out of that22:57
DF3D2and automate it22:57
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6817121/22:57
hitsujiTMODF3D2: yes, but not directly like that , if you give me a bit I can tell you how22:57
bekks!anyone | gr822:57
ubottugr8: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.22:57
DF3D2hitsujiTMO, awesome, take your time22:57
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok: p <enter> and then copy over the line pertaining to sda4 here22:58
solsTiCeanybody tried the intel graphic installer ? https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0.3-linux22:58
hitsujiTMOsolsTiCe: intel grapics are built into the kernel22:58
fl0wI created a file, gave it 760 - I'm in the group and still I can't write to the file in question. What can I be doing wrong? The user and its group is a "system user" (dont remember the term). Think I used useradd -r -U22:59
solsTiCethis is to have the latest of the latest from intel souce22:59
solsTiCehitsujiTMO, ^22:59
hitsujiTMOsolsTiCe: its built into the kernel. thats no good22:59
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: /dev/sda4       552960000   976773167   211906584    5  Extended22:59
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ahh kk, you just hit enter onces too often, not a bother tho. we can fix it23:00
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>23:00
gr8bekks: I asked my question already. but *no one* (TM) answered23:00
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: vertify that there's 3 partitions23:00
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then: n <enter> e <enter> <enter> 831488000 <enter> p <enter>23:01
bekksgr8: Then "anyone" is the most useless repition of your question ;)23:01
gr8bekks: how do you think should I try to get attention then?23:02
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then copy over the line for sda423:02
bekksgr8: By repeating your actual question instead of asking "anyone?"23:02
gr8so. whats currently the best open source text-to-speech (TTS) software for Linux?23:02
bekks!best | gr823:02
ubottugr8: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.23:02
gr8whats currently a decent open source text-to-speech (TTS) software for Linux?23:03
DF3D2hitsujiTMO, wife has me doing some chores, pm me that info when you can. Thanks man23:03
aaa801how can i downgrade from 13.10 to 12.0423:03
hitsujiTMODF3D2: cool23:03
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  this is what i got after doing what you said: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6817151/23:03
k1laaa801: no downgrade23:04
aaa801k1l: =/,23:04
aaa801Ok 2nd question, How can i get plesk to install under 13.1023:04
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: you missed the extra <enter> not that theres 2 <enter>'s in a row. just hit enter now23:04
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: don't worry here, no damage done23:05
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: so again:23:05
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>23:05
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  what should it say now?23:05
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: once you hit enter there it sould just be the default menu23:06
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: vertify that there's 3 partitions23:06
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then: n <enter> e <enter> <enter> 831488000 <enter> p <enter>23:06
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  not sure, something is happenng after one of those commands. the screen is full and its like you cannot,visibly at least enter anymore commands, even though i did all you said23:06
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok 2 secs23:07
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  after the 'e' or the 83148800 something happens23:07
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok. hit: Ctrl + C23:07
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  i'll try again though. also should that 'Command (m for help) be there. It wasnt there before, earlier23:07
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: we can start from scratch23:08
fl0wDoesn't chmod 070 affect system accounts?23:08
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: ok now it looks like it should23:08
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  thanks for your patience23:08
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: no problems. so Ctrl + C will get you back to the terminal: then: sudo fdisk /dev/sda23:09
profligacyI keep getting this when I try to watch video on this page on ubuntu:23:09
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>23:09
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: vertify that there's 3 partitions23:09
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then: n <enter> e <enter> <enter> 831488000 <enter> p <enter>23:09
k1lprofligacy: could be a trap23:09
hitsujiTMOprofligacy: k1l http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE023:10
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: can you then copy the line pertaining to /dev/sda4 here23:11
fl0wSo I have "www-data:www-data" for mydomain directory, recursivly. I chmoded the folder recursivly to 760. I added myself to www-data, yet I cannot view or write to files without sudo within that directory? www-data is a system account, and I am in it (shows when I do groups my_account_name)23:12
profligacyhitsujiTMO: That wasn't really helpful, but thanks.23:12
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  how do i know which that is? the last line of text now starts by saying: 'last sector.....23:12
hitsujiTMOprofligacy: its trying to get you to download a plugin that prob contains spyware23:12
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  oh no sorry. the message before that says "value out of range"23:13
TJ-fl0w: you need +x on the directories23:13
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ahh, you never hit enter twice again :P23:13
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: <enter>23:13
Minnen[QUESTION] anyone experienced in Gnome Subtitles? https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnome-subtitles/23:13
fl0wTJ-: so 770?23:13
zsquarepluscI've just installed 13.10 on an SSD (i7 internal GFX), but when i boot i just get a black screen with a blinking cursor instead of GRUB. 12.04 also on a HD on this machine, works fine. I looked at the grub settings and at least the GUID of the root disk is correct.23:13
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: p <enter>23:14
Minneni want to modify the colors for substation alpha but i cant see any options in the gui23:14
TJ-fl0w: x7x is chmod g+rwx23:14
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  last line says: 'Using default value 976773167'23:14
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: yup ok. lets try again:23:14
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>23:15
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: oh god i feel like im in the Twilight Zone, lol23:15
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: vertify that there's 3 partitions23:15
fl0wTJ-: Still doesn't work.23:15
hitsujiTMOfl0w: did you relog after adding yourself to the group?23:15
fl0whitsujiTMO: no :/ hold on ..23:15
profligacyhitsujiTMO: so don't dl it? I hear the audio.23:16
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: yes 323:16
hitsujiTMOprofligacy: thats an add over the video23:16
profligacyyeah, what can i do about it23:16
TJ-fl0w: from the root to the destination will need to have +x on all directories for the groups your user is a member of23:16
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then: n <enter> e <enter>23:16
hitsujiTMOprofligacy: find a better site that doesn't have such annoying ads23:16
fl0whitsujiTMO: oh, that worked.23:17
fl0w(the relog)23:17
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: you me twice after 'e' ?23:17
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: what does the prompt say?23:17
profligacyhitsujiTMO: If I download the spyware, will it work?23:17
hitsujiTMOprofligacy: no23:18
hitsujiTMOprofligacy: the ad is from some other crowd23:18
profligacyhitsujiTMO: I don't mind the spyware, I don't watch much shameful porn.23:18
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: first sector (552960000-976773167, default 552960000): '23:18
profligacyalthough i have been watching icreasingly shameful ones23:18
hitsujiTMOprofligacy: you'd have to maybe edit the html and remove the ad that way with the developer tools for the browser23:18
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: <enter>23:18
profligacyi'm not that advanced23:19
profligacyhitsujiTMO: can you run me through it23:19
profligacyor is it hard23:19
zopsiHow would I go about removing a raid1 drive and making sure the data on the first drive is kept? e.g. md1 has /dev/sda1 and /devsdb123:19
hitsujiTMOprofligacy: its hard-ish23:19
profligacyhitsujiTMO: ok nvm, thanks though.23:19
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: 831488000 <enter> p <enter>23:19
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  now reads: last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G}...23:20
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then paste the line for sda423:20
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  there is no prompt to enter that, no empty space, rather23:20
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FevixI have an ISO image for Ubuntu 64-bit, how can I write this to a USB drive for install on a separate computer?23:20
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: just type that23:21
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  hold on i increased the window size23:21
k1lFevix: just dd it onto a usb stick23:21
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent23:22
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  something is wrong bro, im back to the beg again23:22
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: p <enter>23:22
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: whats the line for /dev/sda423:22
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  do me a favor list all the commands line by line cause soomething is up!23:22
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: /dev/sda4       552960000   976773167   211906584    5  Extended23:23
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok. it created it with the default again23:23
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  something is happening when its time to put in those numbers 83.....23:24
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: then: n <enter> e <enter>23:24
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: wait23:24
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: that should be: d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>23:24
brosonofrustuptwist: ?23:25
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  lets take it from the top. im getting command not found right now23:26
antifaso strange things hapen to my laptop :) ubuntu 13.10 can only see cd's when I enter a dvd nothing hapens, I tried it with blanks, writen dvd's dvd rom unit does not mount, any ideas ?23:26
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: Ctrl + C23:26
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo fdisk /dev/sda423:26
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo fdisk /dev/sda23:26
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: second line there not the first23:26
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: so, once you're in:          d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>23:27
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  message: Building a new sun disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable.23:27
FevixAm I correct in assuming that using 64-bit Ubuntu, even on a system with limited (2GB) RAM, will result in a performance increase?23:27
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ctrl + C23:27
Fevix(As opposed to 32-bt)23:27
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: ok done23:27
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo fdisk /dev/sda23:27
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: so, once you're in:          d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>23:28
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hitsujiTMOFevix: yes23:28
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  no not working, getting a logical size error message warning, not a prompt23:28
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: hurm. ctrl + C23:29
kapchiyalguien habla espanhol?23:29
sh0thi guys can please someone help me with all this thing UEFI/Secureboot wINDOWS 8 and Ubuntu? I have installed disabling secureboot ubuntu on a partition next to Windows 8. Now I need to make it boot so I restarted a live usb ubuntu and from there i am running boot-repair which gets stuck on the initial phase when it says: Scanning systems(os-prober)....23:29
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit23:29
kapchiyquiero hacer un kackintosh23:29
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  should it not be fscdisk or smething like that23:29
sonofrustuptwist!es | kapchiy23:30
ubottukapchiy: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:30
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: no23:30
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: fdisk: invalid option -- '1'23:31
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: small L not number 123:31
FevixOne last question: THe .iso is now on my Ubuntu desktop, the flash drive is inserted, and I have a terminal open. How do I dd the iso to the flash drive? THis should be the last question of mien23:32
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6817270/23:32
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: ok. its still unchanged. thats good23:32
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo fdisk /dev/sda23:33
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: d <enter> 4 <enter> p <enter>23:33
k1lFevix: use the usb-creator or dd23:33
k1lFevix: dd would be like sudo dd of=/dev/sdX if=/path/to/usb-stick.img bs=10M23:34
k1lFevix: adjust sdX and path/to/usb....23:35
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  3 partitions23:35
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: n <enter> e <enter>23:35
bpromptFevix:     sudo dd if=/PATHHERE/YOURISOFILEHERE.iso  of=/dev/YOURDEVICEHERE, <---- say your device is loaded as say "sdb" with say 1 partition of say "sdb1" or so, then you'd do say  -> dd if=MYFILE.iso of=/dev/sdb  <--- no partition number, just the raw device name23:35
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  done23:35
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: <enter>23:35
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: 831488000 <enter>23:35
antifaso no one knows anithing of my thing ?23:36
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: done23:36
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: p <enter>23:37
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: copy the line for /dev/sda423:37
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: /dev/sda4       552960000   831488000   139264000+   5  Extended23:38
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sweet.23:38
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: now to create the logical partition23:38
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  still here...23:39
odie5533I log in to an Ubuntu VPS. Should I be logging in as root and then doing su to drop to users to run programs, or should I not be logging in as root?23:39
k1lodie5533: log in as root is not a great idea23:39
k1l!sudo | odie553323:40
ubottuodie5533: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo23:40
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: just give me a sec23:40
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: ok23:40
odie5533k1l: I could never figure out how to get a user sudo access23:40
antifaso strange things hapen to my laptop :) ubuntu 13.10 can only see cd's when I enter a dvd nothing hapens, I tried it with blanks, writen dvd's dvd rom unit does not mount, any ideas ?23:40
k1lodie5533: put him into the sudo group23:41
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: n <enter>23:41
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: <enter>23:41
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: +144873471 <enter>23:42
odie5533k1l: Oh. I thought you had to edit config files. Thank you23:42
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: p <enter>23:43
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: copy over the line for /dev/sda523:43
antifaguys at least tell me to piss of !23:43
hitsujiTMO!patience | antifa23:43
ubottuantifa: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/23:43
rwwubottu: dvd23:44
ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:44
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  /dev/sda5       552962048   697835519    72436736   83  Linux23:44
rwwunless you meant data dvds, in which case no idea23:44
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: w <enter>23:45
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: crap forget to set the type :P23:45
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo fdisk /dev/sda23:46
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: WHAT should i do?23:46
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  i didnt enter w23:46
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: t <enter> 5 <enter>23:46
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: 7 <enter>23:47
antifasory thanks23:47
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  message: he code tupe L to list codes):23:47
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: p <enter>                 copy over the line for /dev/sda523:47
bpromptantifa:    yeah, you'd need libdvdcss2  to have the DVD playback, as shown above, is just a legal matter, no a deficiency, you can get libdvdcss2 from Medibuntu's repositories23:47
hitsujiTMObprompt: medibuntu doesn't exist anymore23:48
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  here: /dev/sda5       552962048   697835519    72436736    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT23:48
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: w <enter>23:48
bpromptholly !   .... really.. ohh man... anyhow, is where I got it from  =)23:48
* bprompt checking23:49
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OerHeksmedibuntu is dead, dvd css script is in ubuntu-restricted-extras now23:49
bpromptI see23:49
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: so you're back to the terminal prompt now right?23:50
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  yeah but there was an error message. you want to see it?23:50
sh0thi guys can please someone help me with all this thing UEFI/Secureboot wINDOWS 8 and Ubuntu? I have installed disabling secureboot ubuntu on a partition next to Windows 8. Now I need to make it boot so I restarted a live usb ubuntu and from there i am running boot-repair which gets stuck on the initial phase when it says: Scanning systems(os-prober)....23:51
bpromptantifa:    http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html23:51
antifait is the same with blanck dvds to23:51
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: Did it say something along the lines of the kernel is still using the old partition table?23:51
antifaI have the package installed23:52
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: hitsujiTMO: Did the partitions get unmounted from /media/ before this started? If not, sda4 is still mounted!23:53
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  yes. partition table failed with an error 16, etc.23:53
hitsujiTMOTJ-: doh23:53
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda23:53
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: OK, lets try to sort it out: "sudo umount /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}"23:53
hitsujiTMOTJ-: didn't realise he had mounted any23:53
TJ-hitsujiTMO: on-disk will be fine; we just need to release the devices and then we can do "partprobe /dev/sda"23:54
TJ-hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816323/23:54
octocodercatHow do I partition a 5" floppy disk?23:54
TJ-octocodercat: 5", or 5.25" ? 360K, 720K ?23:55
TJ-octocodercat: generally FDs don't have partition tables, only file-systems23:55
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  and TJ-  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6817375/23:55
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: OK, lets try to sort it out: "sudo umount /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}"23:56
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: cool. the tables written ok. "sudo umount /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}"23:56
sonofrustuptwistok just a sec I didnt see that you needed me to do something. that paste is before these latest commands23:56
TJ-sonofrustuptwist: it is fine, we're keeping up with you :)23:56
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  lets take it from the top. what now?23:57
FevixHow do I find the path to a drive for dd?23:57
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: "sudo umount /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}"23:57
sonofrustuptwisti havent done anything since that last past output23:57
DF3D2would something like this work for a chroot script? http://pastebin.com/5zdqtHn623:57
hitsujiTMODF3D2: no you need to supply commands to chroot in a script in a different manner23:58
DF3D2such as?23:58
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO: ??23:58
hitsujiTMOsonofrustuptwist: did you run: sudo umount /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}23:59
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  no I will right now, ok?23:59
sonofrustuptwisthitsujiTMO:  the last thing i did was23:59

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