| brainwash | andrzejr: got some new observations, the gtk3 indicator panel box turns transparent when another indicator is loaded later on | 00:22 |
|---|---|---|
| brainwash | andrzejr: and this only happens if the panel is set to have no background style -> 'none (use system style)' | 00:24 |
| brainwash | I cannot reproduce this glitch after defining a background color (panel settings) | 00:25 |
| brainwash | I'm currently trying to understand the recent transparency fix for xfce4-panel and wrapper-plug.c in general | 00:29 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Oh, in case you didn't notice, xfwm/xfdesktop built for Saucy and Trusty, no need to be on Trusty to test as long as you get a PPA for the greeter. | 02:17 |
| elfy | Unit193: saw that - must have picked it up last night, if it's supposed to get rid of the grey then it's masquerading as something else here | 08:36 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Versions for xfdesktop4, xfwm, and lightdm-gtk-greeter? | 08:37 |
| elfy | 4.11.2-2.1~14.04 and 4.11.1-1ubuntu2.1~14.04 and 201401231722~ubuntu14.04.1 | 08:38 |
| elfy | respectively | 08:38 |
| Unit193 | I'm calling dad on you... | 08:39 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Hey, see anything amiss? | 08:39 |
| Unit193 | elfy: So that all looks good to me, I don't have daily gtk-greeter and I have my packages, but nevertheless... | 08:40 |
| elfy | Unit193: so I guess it should be working with them then | 08:41 |
| Unit193 | Well, what's the source of xfwm, just to double check? | 08:41 |
| elfy | http://ppa.launchpad.net/unit193/xfce/ubuntu/ | 08:42 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, Do you want me to try the greeter merge tomorrow or do you think you'll get to it soon? | 08:50 |
| Noskcaj | (although i'll probably fail it) | 08:50 |
| Unit193 | elfy: And I'd presume you've restarted/restarted lightdm after getting the last of the packages? | 08:51 |
| elfy | updated xfwm last night - so that was here when I booted, last update for xfdesktop4 was on the 19th and greeter was 24th | 08:52 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: You testing this? | 08:52 |
| elfy | I was just looking at the when | 08:52 |
| Unit193 | Well then you should have had everything. | 08:52 |
| elfy | mmm | 08:52 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, I don't have time tonight, might try tomorrow | 08:54 |
| knome | bluesabre? | 09:00 |
| Noskcaj | knome, Don't disturb him, he's busy coding. ;) | 09:01 |
| Noskcaj | And probably will be for the next week | 09:01 |
| knome | Noskcaj, umm, yes i will disturb him | 09:02 |
| * Noskcaj really should go and do something else | 09:03 | |
| elfy | morning knome | 09:05 |
| knome | hello elfy | 09:05 |
| bluesabre | knome, Noskcaj: or sleeping | 11:46 |
| knome | bluesabre, debdiff | 11:47 |
| bluesabre | yup | 11:47 |
| bluesabre | I'll do that now | 11:47 |
| knome | ta | 11:47 |
| bluesabre | and then move on to the greeter merge | 11:47 |
| knome | :) | 11:47 |
| bluesabre | so, what needs to be inside of a deb, and what am I diffing against? | 11:47 |
| knome | lp:xubuntu-docs/precise what needs to be inside | 11:48 |
| knome | and diff against 11.10.0 or 12.04.0, whichever you please | 11:48 |
| bluesabre | alrighty then | 11:49 |
| bluesabre | knome: done, where do I need to upload this debdiff? | 12:06 |
| knome | the bug | 12:07 |
| knome | bug 1207493 | 12:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1207493 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] Documentation does not match shipped system version (11.10 shipped with 12.04)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1207493 | 12:07 |
| bluesabre | danke | 12:07 |
| bluesabre | uploaded | 12:13 |
| knome | ok, can you do one more thing? | 12:14 |
| bluesabre | whats up? | 12:14 |
| knome | poke seb128 in #ubuntu-devel and tell you've uploaded the new debdiff | 12:14 |
| bluesabre | ok | 12:14 |
| knome | ta | 12:14 |
| bluesabre | done | 12:16 |
| bluesabre | now, the waiting game | 12:16 |
| knome | ;)= | 12:17 |
| bluesabre | *chuckle* https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1272652 | 12:23 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1272652 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "lightdm-gtk-greeter-1.7.0: infobar for PAM has red background" [Undecided,New] | 12:23 |
| bluesabre | so, what should the severity of a bad password be? :) | 12:23 |
| elfy | polka dots | 12:23 |
| bluesabre | yes! | 12:23 |
| elfy | red background - red dots | 12:24 |
| elfy | wfm | 12:24 |
| knome | bluesabre, btw, did you check the package? :)) | 12:28 |
| knome | /test | 12:28 |
| bluesabre | no, I assumed that since it was all self-contained (debian and all) it had already been thoroughly tested and all changes were already there | 12:28 |
| knome | hahahahahah | 12:29 |
| knome | :P | 12:29 |
| bluesabre | don't let me down knome! | 12:29 |
| knome | if you upload the new package you created, i can test it (as i said) | 12:29 |
| bluesabre | I'll try to pbuilder it now | 12:29 |
| bluesabre | just a few minutes, hopefully I'll have a package then | 12:32 |
| bluesabre | knome: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rbfwdd90upfyv7j/QGV9kuZ6MZ/xubuntu | 12:42 |
| knome | lol | 12:42 |
| knome | can't see file names without js enabled | 12:42 |
| bluesabre | you disable js? craaaaaaazy | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | or you turn it off before clicking on a link from anybody in -team | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | probably a safe idea | 12:44 |
| knome | hah | 12:45 |
| knome | i use noscript | 12:45 |
| knome | so js is disabled by default | 12:45 |
| knome | i'll allow as needed | 12:45 |
| knome | bluesabre, worksforme, ta | 12:58 |
| bluesabre | fantastic | 12:58 |
| bluesabre | didn't even have to try that hard :) | 12:58 |
| knome | lol | 12:59 |
| knome | just wondering if we need a bigger version number than .0 | 13:00 |
| knome | but... that's solvabl | 13:00 |
| knome | e | 13:00 |
| bluesabre | again, just went with what you left me :) | 13:00 |
| knome | well i said you can debdiff to either 11.10.0 or 12.04.0, which implies that there is a 12.04.0 package | 13:01 |
| bluesabre | yeah, didn't see one though | 13:01 |
| bluesabre | the precise package is 11.10 | 13:01 |
| knome | precise-proposed is 12.04.0 | 13:01 |
| knome | that's the earlier SRU upload | 13:02 |
| bluesabre | ah | 13:02 |
| bluesabre | it takes too long for a package that only affects one single distro to make it back to the -updates repo | 13:03 |
| ochosi | hey folks | 13:24 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: do we have an ETA on the greeter landing in trusty btw? (i presume it'll go via debian?) | 13:26 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: well, if we consider it stable, let's fix any new bugs, make it 1.8.0, and push it to debian | 13:32 |
| bluesabre | in which case, I'll hold off on the debian merge for 1.6.1-5 | 13:32 |
| bluesabre | that will basically be our "feature freeze" | 13:32 |
| bluesabre | that will get us quite a bit more testing too | 13:33 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Every time I bring up the tabwin I get xfwm4-Message: (nil) in startxfce4.log | 13:35 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: also, let's make sure to merge the xfce4-display-settings branch we have this weekend | 13:36 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: sounds like a good plan, let's make a shortlist for 1.8.0 | 13:37 |
| ochosi | what did you think about my suggestion to include a settings-UI? | 13:37 |
| ochosi | Unit193: hmm, is that something you can also confirm with the last state of master there without the extra tabwin code? | 13:37 |
| Unit193 | 4.11.1 count? It's newer. | 13:38 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: (i mean one that also allows setting the light-locker stuff optionally) | 13:38 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: sounds like a good idea, but I'd like to get one together for light-locker | 13:38 |
| ochosi | light-locker has so little options, that i think a settings UI for the greeter that includes those makes more sense | 13:38 |
| bluesabre | yeah, but then every lightdm project that uses light-locker has to implement their own | 13:39 |
| bluesabre | which, maybe that's something we should discuss with robert ancell | 13:39 |
| bluesabre | slickymaster: are you around? | 13:42 |
| bluesabre | I'm going to upgrade my dokuwiki to the latest stable today, but don't want to interrupt your work | 13:42 |
| * bluesabre gives some time to respond | 13:44 | |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ubuntu doesn't need a settings UI | 13:44 |
| ochosi | they control everything with gnome-settings-daemon | 13:45 |
| ochosi | so they can easily include light-locker settings somewhere (the timed locking is done in ubuntu with g-s-d as well) | 13:45 |
| bluesabre | ok | 13:45 |
| ochosi | and there arent *that* many greeters... | 13:45 |
| ochosi | i think kde also has one | 13:46 |
| bluesabre | it might also be a good idea to make light-locker configurable via dbus | 13:46 |
| ochosi | but they would want a settings ui in qt | 13:46 |
| bluesabre | so that light-locker can worry about setting timeouts and whatnot | 13:46 |
| bluesabre | or maybe not | 13:46 |
| * bluesabre still doesn't know enough about x to make a good decision on that stuff | 13:47 | |
| ochosi | nah | 13:47 |
| ochosi | we didn't implement an extra ticker in light-locker and decided to rely on X11's screensaver extension signal instead | 13:47 |
| ochosi | so that's the crucial setting | 13:47 |
| bluesabre | got it | 13:48 |
| bluesabre | okay, so want to make a lightdm-gtk-greeter_1.8.0 wiki page? | 13:48 |
| bluesabre | or | 13:48 |
| bluesabre | a blueprint on the launchpad page | 13:48 |
| bluesabre | but I'd prefer the wiki myself | 13:48 |
| ochosi | yeah, the wiki is more responsive | 13:50 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: furthermore we already have a wiki page :) http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=greeter-roadmap | 13:53 |
| brainwash | ochosi: so no settings gui for light-locker? | 13:54 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: you gotta tell me these things :) | 13:54 |
| brainwash | basically a front-end for xset | 13:54 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: hehe, well i haven't used it for a while, but andrew got his inspiration on what to implement from there | 13:55 |
| * bluesabre still thinks xfce-power-man should handle that stuff | 13:56 | |
| ochosi | yeah, but we have more control over the greeter | 13:56 |
| ochosi | and getting a new powerman release will probably not happen for trusty | 13:56 |
| bluesabre | right | 13:56 |
| brainwash | already took some time to get full systemd support :D | 13:57 |
| ochosi | well there's a branch now where eric merged in all the stuff, but parts of it are still todo, so... | 13:57 |
| brainwash | but wait.. you can remove power manager and still use light-locker | 13:57 |
| ochosi | yeah | 13:57 |
| brainwash | power manager is optional | 13:58 |
| bluesabre | yeah, but power manager has options for screen timeout and whatnot | 13:58 |
| bluesabre | and they don't seem to actually do anything | 13:58 |
| brainwash | only dpms | 13:58 |
| brainwash | it does not change the screen saver timeout | 13:59 |
| brainwash | xscreensaver does/did | 13:59 |
| Migou | Hi people, I'm glad to tell you I'm ready for beta testing! I found time for resizing a partition, and succesfully installed a Xubuntu from a usb key using testdrive-gtk. | 14:00 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: how long do you think would it take you to set up a basic settings UI? | 14:00 |
| bluesabre | that's why I think light-locker needs a settings gui | 14:00 |
| bluesabre | since its made to replace xscreensaver | 14:00 |
| brainwash | bug 1193716 | 14:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1193716 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Xfce Power Manager does not override the screen saver timeout (X11 Screen Saver extension)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193716 | 14:00 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: yes, I think so too | 14:00 |
| brainwash | some basic gui, only few switches, nothing fancy | 14:01 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 14:01 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: dunno | 14:02 |
| bluesabre | ideally not long | 14:02 |
| bluesabre | but c/vala take 20x longer than a python gtk app | 14:02 |
| bluesabre | if we have any vala people in this channel, they could probably do it quickly | 14:02 |
| ochosi | yeah, i dunno, what settings would light-locker-settings even include? | 14:02 |
| bluesabre | timeout, enabled | 14:03 |
| ochosi | hmpf | 14:03 |
| bluesabre | lock on suspend/hibernate | 14:03 |
| bluesabre | y'know, the xscreensaver stuff, minus the screensaver | 14:03 |
| ochosi | well for light-locker it'd also mean adding a settings-file | 14:04 |
| bluesabre | right | 14:04 |
| bluesabre | or using gsettings or something, but the config file would be best | 14:05 |
| brainwash | you can enable locking on suspend via xfce4-session (it will call xflock4), and light-locker already does it automatically via dbus | 14:05 |
| brainwash | this might confuse the user | 14:05 |
| bluesabre | just things to consider | 14:06 |
| ochosi | yeah, i thought implementing one or two locker-settings in the greeter might mean less settings-duplication | 14:06 |
| ochosi | and it already has a settings-file, so.. | 14:06 |
| bluesabre | but that makes it a system-wide config | 14:09 |
| ochosi | hmmm, true :/ | 14:10 |
| bluesabre | maybe try to talk cavalier into it? | 14:11 |
| bluesabre | I'd do it, but obviously I've got a whole other list atm :) | 14:11 |
| ochosi | yeah, i knw | 14:11 |
| ochosi | humm humm | 14:12 |
| ochosi | what are you working on atm? | 14:12 |
| bluesabre | cleaning | 14:12 |
| bluesabre | :) | 14:12 |
| bluesabre | then menulibre2.1 and mugshot | 14:12 |
| bluesabre | then catfish | 14:12 |
| bluesabre | should also do a parole release today | 14:13 |
| bluesabre | but I can't compile it as is | 14:13 |
| bluesabre | need to find a way to not die on deprecation warnings | 14:13 |
| bluesabre | figure out where that flag is getting toggled | 14:13 |
| ochosi | hmm :/ | 14:16 |
| ochosi | i'd really hate to see 0.5 in another LTS release... | 14:17 |
| ochosi | don't wanna keep supporting that foreever | 14:17 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 14:18 |
| bluesabre | I'm ready to make it 0.6 any time | 14:18 |
| ochosi | yeah, i think we should really consider that | 14:19 |
| bluesabre | ok | 14:19 |
| ochosi | i mean, doing a stable release soon | 14:19 |
| bluesabre | I think we're done adding features anyway | 14:19 |
| ochosi | but it doesn't help if it doesn't build with gtk3.10 :/ | 14:19 |
| ochosi | yeah | 14:19 |
| bluesabre | I'll try to work on that today too | 14:19 |
| ochosi | well mostly wanting to add that menuitem | 14:20 |
| ochosi | for the docs | 14:20 |
| ochosi | and then it's release-ready i'd say | 14:20 |
| bluesabre | oh | 14:20 |
| bluesabre | since you're not on trusty | 14:20 |
| bluesabre | please try both commands: | 14:20 |
| bluesabre | ./autogen.sh --enable-debug=full --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-gtk-doc --with-gstreamer=0.10 | 14:21 |
| bluesabre | ./autogen.sh --enable-debug=full --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-gtk-doc --with-gstreamer=1.0 | 14:21 |
| bluesabre | and make them both | 14:21 |
| bluesabre | to see if there are any build issues | 14:21 |
| bluesabre | you can also 'make distcheck' too after that | 14:22 |
| bluesabre | if there are any issues, let's resolve those | 14:22 |
| bluesabre | otherwise, not quite release-ready :) | 14:25 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: with-0.10 works fine, only docs warnings (which we already know about) | 14:41 |
| ochosi | same with 1.0 | 14:44 |
| ochosi | so on saucy / gtk3.8 everything is fine | 14:44 |
| bluesabre | great, thanks | 14:44 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: ok, it builds in trusty | 14:55 |
| ochosi | sweet! | 14:55 |
| bluesabre | just not with enable-debug=full | 14:55 |
| ochosi | hmkay | 14:55 |
| ochosi | we've had that one before... | 14:55 |
| bluesabre | but since distcheck works, thats fine by me | 14:55 |
| bluesabre | I'll do a release tonight | 14:55 |
| ochosi | yup, we can fix that in 0.6.1 | 14:55 |
| bluesabre | 0.6 | 14:55 |
| bluesabre | get any fixes you want in now :) | 14:55 |
| ochosi | but don't forget to add the menuitem ;) | 14:55 |
| ochosi | hehe, ok | 14:55 |
| bluesabre | if you can, please do ;) | 14:55 |
| ochosi | gotta go to shop, bbiab | 14:56 |
| bluesabre | k | 15:00 |
| bluesabre | still cleaning around here | 15:00 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: so wait, the problem with compiling with enable-debug=full comes from the deprecated stuff and gtk3.10? | 15:19 |
| brainwash | ochosi: what color does the selection rectangle have in thunar? | 15:23 |
| ochosi | not sure anymore | 15:23 |
| ochosi | nothing we set in the theme though | 15:23 |
| ochosi | bbiab | 15:23 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: yes | 15:24 |
| bluesabre | enable-debug=full turns on the fail on warning | 15:24 |
| brainwash | ochosi: it's grey here, but blue in every other app | 15:25 |
| bluesabre | yeah, confirmed grey here too | 15:26 |
| bluesabre | didn't use to be that way :\ | 15:26 |
| brainwash | thunar seems to ignore the color specified by the theme | 15:29 |
| brainwash | bug report time again | 15:30 |
| bluesabre | slickymaster: upgraded my wiki, you can use it without any concerns again :) | 15:43 |
| sergio-br2 | hey ochosi, take a look at my elementary branch | 16:13 |
| ochosi | hey sergio-br2 | 16:13 |
| ochosi | what will i see when i look there? | 16:13 |
| sergio-br2 | i changed calculator and transmission icon, and initial 96 px release, and others stuff | 16:14 |
| ochosi | okeydokey, currently i'm re-setting up my laptop (new ssd, install trusty...) so it might take a bit | 16:15 |
| ochosi | but sounds great | 16:15 |
| sergio-br2 | but it not ready yet, i'm doing revision in each thing i commit. | 16:15 |
| ochosi | ok | 16:16 |
| sergio-br2 | ochosi, will you change trash icon? I remember that you talk of it. If not, i will put in places/96 | 16:16 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: yeah, i'm still considering it, but haven't had the time to finish it | 16:22 |
| ochosi | i mean i have a local proposal for it | 16:22 |
| sergio-br2 | hum, ok, then i will wait | 16:23 |
| ochosi | yeah, no rush with that | 16:23 |
| ochosi | the trash is hardly ever visible in 96px ;) | 16:23 |
| sergio-br2 | yeah | 16:23 |
| ochosi | (hardly anyone puts their sidebar to that size i guess) | 16:23 |
| ochosi | ok, gotta try to install trusty now, bbiab | 16:23 |
| sergio-br2 | anyone, whisker-menu will be at trusty? | 16:24 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: yeah, it's planned | 16:49 |
| ochosi | ok, installation of trusty daily went smoothly i have to admit | 16:50 |
| bluesabre | bah, merges are no fun | 17:00 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: in bzr? | 17:00 |
| bluesabre | debian -> ubuntu | 17:00 |
| ochosi | oh, mh | 17:01 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: let's wait on that sync, we'll be pushing 1.8 in a few days, which will get rid of some of the debian patches | 17:05 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: let me know when you've added the menuitem to parole | 17:07 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: still working on the migration to trusty.. | 17:07 |
| bluesabre | no hurry :) | 17:07 |
| ochosi | but yeah, i'll try to look into it asap | 17:07 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: contents-item added to the menu and pushed | 17:39 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: great, thanks! | 17:39 |
| ochosi | np, wasn't too hard or time-consuming | 17:40 |
| bluesabre | I'll do the release today | 17:40 |
| ochosi | nice | 17:40 |
| bluesabre | 0.6.0, right? | 17:40 |
| ochosi | yeah, i'd say we go for it | 17:40 |
| ochosi | unless there are bugs you wanna fix first | 17:40 |
| bluesabre | out of bugs that are easy to fix | 17:40 |
| ochosi | :> | 17:41 |
| bluesabre | we'll get plenty of bug reports once this hits sid/trusty | 17:41 |
| ochosi | i guess so | 17:41 |
| ochosi | i think it's ready to go stable, we might have to do a 0.6.1 soon anyway ;) | 17:41 |
| bluesabre | or once an arch user picks it up :) | 17:41 |
| ochosi | and this way we at least get more testing | 17:41 |
| bluesabre | agreed | 17:41 |
| sergio-br2 | ochosi, there is a pull request from Noskcaj in elementary, is somethin missing in his branch? | 17:49 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: can't remember to be frank :/ | 17:50 |
| ochosi | it's been a long time since he submitted that | 17:51 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: feel free to check whether the icons are ok and work as expected | 17:54 |
| ochosi | if so, we can merge it | 17:54 |
| sergio-br2 | hum, ok | 17:55 |
| sergio-br2 | i will see | 17:55 |
| ochosi | time to switch back to trusty... | 17:57 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: parole 0.6.0 released | 18:12 |
| bluesabre | want to ping Corsac about getting it into debian? | 18:12 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: thanks, and done | 18:16 |
| ochosi | and i'm on trusty now, finally | 18:16 |
| ochosi | still gotta set up my dev-env, but i think i'll get there | 18:16 |
| bluesabre | thanks ochosi | 18:16 |
| ochosi | np | 18:17 |
| ochosi | thanks for doing the releases | 18:17 |
| bluesabre | yup, releases are easy so np | 18:17 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: started to look at your branch now. i think the calculator change can be fine, but i'd tone down the color of the number a bit. it's ok that it's readable, but it's not important, so it shouldn't be too much in the foreground | 19:01 |
| ochosi | transmission also looks good, the changes seem very subtle to me, so i think you can pursue that | 19:06 |
| ochosi | apps/128/preferences-desktop-sound looks a bit too small for being in that folder :) | 19:08 |
| bluesabre | 09:05 bluesabre: Noskcaj: let's wait on that sync, we'll be pushing 1.8 in a few days, which will get rid of some of the debian patches | 19:10 |
| Noskcaj | ok, sounds good | 19:10 |
| Noskcaj | plus that will be put in unstable rather than exp | 19:10 |
| Noskcaj | FYI: gmusicbrowser's new version is now in unstable | 19:11 |
| Noskcaj | and gthumb is in exp | 19:11 |
| ochosi | nice, so gmb will hopefully be synced to ubuntu soon | 19:12 |
| Noskcaj | yeah | 19:12 |
| brainwash | Unit193: new xfwm4 package from your PPA works fine here, according to elfy's feedback there might a problem with nvidia + open source driver | 19:25 |
| Unit193 | Oh bah, always a problem with that. drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) (though it's tad older.) | 19:26 |
| brainwash | I cannot test it with the nouveau driver, because I got no nvidia card at home :) | 19:27 |
| brainwash | Unit193: new patch for xfdesktop available https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10605 | 19:29 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10605 in General "Desktop icons/labels are not properly themed after login" [Normal,New] | 19:29 |
| brainwash | this time I'll test it locally, no need to abuse your PPA | 19:31 |
| Unit193 | I'm planning on making a package, but not in PPA. | 19:32 |
| brainwash | for your own use? | 19:33 |
| Unit193 | Test it, yeah. Whoever else might want to. :P | 19:33 |
| brainwash | sounds good | 19:34 |
| Unit193 | https://unit193.net/dump/ | 19:41 |
| sergio-br2 | ochosi, you mean, in what size of calculator? | 19:48 |
| sergio-br2 | i forgot to resize the preferences-desktop-sound in 128... my bad | 19:49 |
| sergio-br2 | i think i changed the calculator button color only in the small icons | 19:55 |
| sergio-br2 | indeed, i have the right preferences-desktop-sound 128 icon... but forgot to commit | 19:56 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, Were there any dependency changes from parole 0.5.91 to 0.6.0? | 19:57 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: pretty sure there were not | 19:59 |
| Noskcaj | then i should be up to the nagging corsac for uploads stage of packageing in half an hour | 19:59 |
| bluesabre | oh, don't we already bugged him :) | 20:01 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 20:01 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, As in, i just committed the packaging, it's in need of upload | 20:25 |
| bluesabre | do we sync parole from debian? | 20:26 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, We would if corsac wasn't quite so against autoreconf. Or did you update the macros with this release? | 20:30 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: i looked mainly at the 48px version of the calculator when comparing current/proposed | 20:30 |
| bluesabre | didn't touch any of that | 20:30 |
| Noskcaj | The merge i guess | 20:30 |
| Noskcaj | *then | 20:31 |
| ochosi | meh, annoying bug in gtk3.10 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710909 | 20:49 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 710909 in .General "Buttons are cut in some windows" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 20:49 |
| ochosi | (just in case anyone thinks of reporting this as a bug against greybird) | 20:49 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: btw, for your 96px icons to be actually used, the index.theme file has to be updated | 20:57 |
| Noskcaj | When can we expect 512x icons? They are now part of hicolor ;) | 20:59 |
| sergio-br2 | 1 or 2 icons in 512 px :D | 20:59 |
| sergio-br2 | i will fix this ochosi, thanks | 21:01 |
| ochosi | thing is, as long as icons aren't used anywhere in that size, it makes no sense to draw them | 21:01 |
| ochosi | other than that, i think your merge-request looks ok | 21:02 |
| ochosi | gotta look at it a bit more, but then we can merge it in | 21:03 |
| sergio-br2 | i will fix somethings, then you can merge | 21:04 |
| sergio-br2 | elementary has a new package-x-generic mime, you saw? | 21:06 |
| sergio-br2 | btw, i put labels to this package mime in 64 and 96 (zip, tar.gz...) | 21:06 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: yeah, saw it, maybe we should also do that for 128px then... | 21:16 |
| ochosi | mimes are lots of work, because there are so many icons | 21:17 |
| sergio-br2 | yeah | 21:17 |
| ochosi | took me a while to do all the 64px ones | 21:17 |
| sergio-br2 | but i think i will merge this package update from elementary | 21:17 |
| sergio-br2 | then i change it in 128. A lot of work... | 21:17 |
| McLovin | I just use gimp and then resize and save in the proper folders | 21:17 |
| sergio-br2 | ? | 21:18 |
| McLovin | for doing icons? | 21:19 |
| ochosi | yeah, but we work with svg | 21:19 |
| McLovin | there has to be a way to do a batch job to take care of it | 21:19 |
| Noskcaj | McLovin, not really | 21:20 |
| McLovin | oh, svg you really don't have to change the size, as it resizes itself auto | 21:20 |
| sergio-br2 | actually, it is not only resize... each size, is a different icon. You have to change many things, and see if it fits well in png | 21:22 |
| McLovin | well, yeah, some icons do change depending on what it is | 21:23 |
| McLovin | but I use png for icons that have to change with size | 21:23 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: weird, the package icon in elementary looks the same: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-01-25-222332.php | 21:24 |
| McLovin | for anything that is uniform in all sizes, I just set an svg, and I'm done with it | 21:24 |
| sergio-br2 | no, there is a little change | 21:24 |
| sergio-br2 | i get from launchpad, using bzr | 21:25 |
| ochosi | me too | 21:25 |
| sergio-br2 | strange | 21:26 |
| sergio-br2 | you get the svg? | 21:26 |
| sergio-br2 | in 48, it is a little different | 21:26 |
| ochosi | ok, yeah, very subtle change | 21:29 |
| ochosi | they also have a new photoshop mime icon amongst others | 21:29 |
| sergio-br2 | photoshop? | 21:30 |
| ochosi | image-vnd.adobe.photoshop.svg | 21:31 |
| sergio-br2 | yeah, can see here | 21:31 |
| ochosi | (we don't even have that, i guess we could symlink it) | 21:31 |
| sergio-br2 | you will merge this? | 21:31 |
| sergio-br2 | btw, gimp opens photoshop files? | 21:32 |
| ochosi | not sure yet, if i have time, maybe | 21:32 |
| ochosi | yeah, gimp opens them | 21:32 |
| sergio-br2 | the package mime, you like the color? I think we can merge the others detail, but stay with old color | 21:33 |
| ochosi | i like that the shadow is less pronounced in the new version | 21:34 |
| ochosi | i'm fine with staying with the old colors | 21:34 |
| ochosi | although i don't think that ppl on average monitors will see much difference | 21:34 |
| sergio-br2 | :D | 21:36 |
| knome | doing really minor changes for downstream is a bit meh in general. | 21:37 |
| ochosi | yeah, i usually never do it | 21:38 |
| ochosi | the terminal icon was a bit of an exception | 21:38 |
| ochosi | knome, pleia2: since you both seem to be around, when would be good for you to do the wallpaper voting? or would you wanna do it now? | 21:38 |
| knome | i have time to do it today | 21:39 |
| pleia2 | sure, now is fine | 21:39 |
| ochosi | cool | 21:39 |
| knome | ok, so give me some time | 21:39 |
| knome | in 20 mins? | 21:39 |
| ochosi | sounds good | 21:39 |
| knome | ok, brb | 21:40 |
| pleia2 | I need to look at them anyway :) | 21:40 |
| ochosi | hehe | 21:40 |
| pleia2 | omg there are like 4000 of them | 21:41 |
| ochosi | hehe, not really | 21:41 |
| brainwash | ochosi: you were right, trying to fix visual glitches in usc is really a waste of time :D | 21:41 |
| pleia2 | ok, 165 :) | 21:41 |
| ochosi | knome took down the tarball of his server already... | 21:41 |
| pleia2 | I gave you the link, if you need | 21:42 |
| pleia2 | ah, this file includes the little ones too | 21:45 |
| knome | my server? :) | 21:46 |
| ochosi | yup, you need to rm *250* | 21:46 |
| knome | it was on pleia2's server! | 21:46 |
| ochosi | ah | 21:47 |
| ochosi | well, anyhoo, i migrated to a new ssd and havent pulled everything along yet | 21:47 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, it is... well unless you get in touch with upstream and make them fix it or submit patches | 21:48 |
| * pleia2 votes for all the pink ones | 21:50 | |
| knome | shall we flood the channel, or create a temporary one? | 21:52 |
| ochosi | create a temp i guess | 21:58 |
| ochosi | since i presume there might also be some casual discussion in between | 21:58 |
| knome | my proposal is another channel, then pastebin the log (or create a new meeting minutes page) and paste the link to this channel | 21:58 |
| knome | #xubuntu-community-wallpapers | 21:59 |
| knome | (everybody is free to join of course) | 21:59 |
| knome | pleia2! | 22:14 |
| pleia2 | ohi | 22:15 |
| knome | :P | 22:15 |
| knome | see your invite, or the backlog | 22:15 |
| sergio-br2 | ochosi, why places type in index.theme are fixed? The others like apps are scalable | 22:37 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: i'll get to it once the voting is over | 22:37 |
| sergio-br2 | ok | 22:37 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: yeah, agreed, the index.theme should be revisited | 22:58 |
| sergio-br2 | ok, i will do that | 22:59 |
| ochosi | would be good to test how that affects apps | 22:59 |
| ochosi | best way to test is xfdesktop | 22:59 |
| ochosi | because you can set the icon-size manually in 1px steps | 23:00 |
| sergio-br2 | small icons are fixed type... | 23:03 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's ok | 23:03 |
| ochosi | you can also check gnome | 23:03 |
| ochosi | we don't want apps to scale e.g. toolbar icons | 23:04 |
| ochosi | (which they do, which is why they are fuzzy when you use the same theme in svg) | 23:04 |
| ochosi | (prominent example: inkscape) | 23:04 |
| sergio-br2 | humm, ok | 23:04 |
| sergio-br2 | but places 48, 64, 96, 128, are fixed too? | 23:05 |
| ochosi | i know, that is something we can change i think | 23:06 |
| ochosi | but i'd like to test it | 23:06 |
| ochosi | usually apps don't use random icon-sizes | 23:06 |
| ochosi | so setting all to scalable isn't a great idea | 23:06 |
| ochosi | you can also control icon-sizes with xsettings | 23:06 |
| ochosi | and if you just set them to some random size, you'll end up with fuzzy icons | 23:07 |
| sergio-br2 | i included only 96 things. | 23:10 |
| ochosi | sergio-br2: what do you mean exactly? | 23:18 |
| sergio-br2 | included only 96 things in index.theme. Better not change the others :) | 23:18 |
| ochosi | :) | 23:19 |
| ochosi | ok, i'll test how the desktop handles them and will update the index.theme | 23:19 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: what does mugshot 0.2 do that 0.1 didn't? | 23:51 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: gets accepted into debian is really the main feature | 23:52 |
| ochosi | :> | 23:52 |
| ochosi | why didn't 0.1? | 23:52 |
| bluesabre | other than than, python3 by default, help goes to url, etc | 23:52 |
| bluesabre | basically the person that reviewed it hated the packaging | 23:52 |
| ochosi | ok, i see | 23:53 |
| bluesabre | so, I've upgraded the packaging | 23:53 |
| bluesabre | and Noskcaj can now help :) | 23:53 |
| Noskcaj | Will do | 23:53 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:53 |
| ochosi | nice | 23:53 |
| bluesabre | I'll have that release probably tonight | 23:54 |
| bluesabre | and menulibre-2.0.1 tomorrow | 23:54 |
| Noskcaj | yay. | 23:54 |
| bluesabre | catfish sometime this week | 23:54 |
| bluesabre | going to be a productive time for me :) | 23:54 |
| Noskcaj | And 14.04 will be a great release | 23:54 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 23:54 |
| knome | it was always going to be! | 23:55 |
| ochosi | what's needed for catfish? | 23:55 |
| bluesabre | just some minor updates to appease the debian folks | 23:55 |
| knome | an aquarium, and some food | 23:55 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: do you have the link to the debian issues? | 23:55 |
| Noskcaj | one sec | 23:55 |
| Noskcaj | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=catfish | 23:55 |
| bluesabre | thanks! | 23:55 |
| Noskcaj | plus https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/catfish | 23:56 |
| Noskcaj | pexpect is a fairly big issue really | 23:56 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 23:57 |
| bluesabre | and now that python3-pexpect is available, we're in pretty good shape | 23:57 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: xfwm 4.11.1 doesn't do it. | 23:58 |
| * Unit193 back to tabwin. | 23:58 | |
| Noskcaj | yep, although i think i have some work to do on pexpect in debian | 23:58 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: they all sound manageable, what icon-name are you using now btw? | 23:58 |
| ochosi | Unit193: :) | 23:58 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: ? | 23:58 |
| ochosi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/catfish/+bug/1258713 | 23:59 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1258713 in catfish (Ubuntu) "Catfish crashing with gi._glib.GError: Icon 'camera-photo' not present in theme" [Undecided,New] | 23:59 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: So you borked stuff? | 23:59 |
| bluesabre | yeah, thats fixed in trunk | 23:59 |
| ochosi | Unit193: what where who? | 23:59 |
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