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| meebey | how can I start juju with full debug logging? juju -vvv seems to be deprecated and doesnt show all log calls either | 15:39 |
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| meebey | found it: --show-log --debug | 15:41 |
| meebey | "verbose is deprecated with the current meaning, use show-log" that was a bit confusing, I thought show-log is a subcommand of juju instead of parameter | 15:41 |
| hazmat | meebey, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2013-September/002998.html | 19:04 |
| hazmat | meebey, debug-log is a the subcommand | 19:04 |
| hazmat | meebey, the link has the config to enable verbose agent logging | 19:04 |
| hazmat | meebey, for cli.. --debug does detailed looging, else -v for verbose | 19:05 |
| meebey | thanks | 19:05 |
| thumper | hazmat: please stop using -v for verbose | 19:34 |
| thumper | hazmat: the meaning of verbose is changing | 19:34 |
| thumper | hazmat: verbose will (RSN) mean 'show more output' and not be related to logging | 19:34 |
| thumper | user output and developer logging are two different things | 19:35 |
| hazmat | thumper, -v for what then? | 19:42 |
| hazmat | thumper, yes dev log and user log distinction understood, how is that not embodied by --debug vs -v ? | 19:43 |
| hazmat | and if its not.. then that's a ux bug imo | 19:43 |
| thumper | hazmat: --debug says "show me the debug log and set logging to DEBUG" | 19:45 |
| thumper | hazmat: -v should mean "show me more user output" | 19:45 |
| thumper | -q should be "show me no user output" | 19:45 |
| thumper | should, but isn't yet | 19:45 |
| thumper | it has been one of those annoying things I keep meaning to get around to fixing properly | 19:45 |
| hazmat | thumper, and that's exactly what i meant to convey | 19:46 |
| hazmat | re -v vs. --debug | 19:46 |
| thumper | hazmat: perhaps we should just file it as a bug :-) | 19:46 |
| thumper | at least it would then be tracked | 19:46 |
| thumper | hazmat: also, Hai! | 19:46 |
| hazmat | thumper, chairs on the deck imo. | 19:46 |
| * thumper looks confused | 19:47 | |
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| hazmat | thedac, also, Mauri ora! Kia ora! :-) | 19:50 |
| hazmat | argh.. thumper ^ | 19:50 |
| thumper | :) | 19:51 |
| rick_h_ | is there any hack/way to trick juju into letting me deploy a local charm without creating the directory structure for series? I git clone the charm and just want to deploy it, but it really wants that series directory. | 21:08 |
| lazypower | rick_h_, i've tried that myself and have been unsuccessful | 22:24 |
| lazypower | rick_h_, the workflow i've adopted is to to keep a "in dev" and a "production" series of directories to islate what i'm checking vs what i'm deploying - and alias those | 22:24 |
| rick_h_ | lazypower: cool, guess as long as I'm not the only one that thinks it should work a bit differently | 22:27 |
| lazypower | I've heard talks of the series going in metadata.yaml instead of being a forced portion of the dir structure | 22:28 |
| lazypower | but its not there yet | 22:28 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that'll be a bit to settle out | 22:28 |
| marcoceppi | rick_h_: symlinks | 22:48 |
| marcoceppi | otherwise, no | 22:48 |
| rick_h_ | marcoceppi: yea, but it rejects symlinks because you're trying to reach something outside the dir | 22:50 |
| rick_h_ | marcoceppi: is there a symlink pattern that does work? | 22:50 |
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