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[02:13] <attrapereves> Hi, when downloading a torrent, my networking seems to die after a few minutes. I am unable to ping my router.
[02:13] <attrapereves> Although ifconfig shows an ip address
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:59] <penguin42> Hey BK
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hi penguin42
[14:26] <Fily> Dear friends, i'd liko to launch ubuntu 14.04 second alpha versio, as suggested in the mail written by Jonathan Riddel. Do you think it's better to download it on USB or to launch it from a virtual machine??
[14:26] <penguin42> well trying it in a virtual machine does no harm
[14:29] <Fily> penguin42, I would like to launch one of this ISO on an old laptop which I don't use anymore
[14:29] <penguin42> Fily: Oh sure - then try it on a USB stick
[14:30] <Fily> penguin42, I vave never saved an ISO un a USB. I don't know the process
[14:31] <penguin42> ah
[14:31] <penguin42> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[17:23] <luca> Why when I launch the ISO 14.04 I use QEMU and not VIRTUAL MACHINE as Nicholas Skaggs suggested to us?
[17:26] <Beldar> luca, You have to set up a virtual to use one.
[17:27] <penguin42> luca: qemu is one part of the virtual-machine system qemu/kvm
[17:27] <Beldar> depends I guess on what virtual you want to use
[17:28] <luca> Beldar, the problem is that instead of opening Virtual Machine my laptop opens QEMU
[17:29] <Beldar> luca, My virtual experience is in using virtualbox is all.
[17:29] <luca> penguin42, now QEMU tells to me BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s!
[17:30] <penguin42> luca: Yeh I've seen that a few times - it shouldn't generally happen
[17:30] <luca> Beldar, the problem is that i cannot launch the ISO on Virtual Machine but only on QEMU and I cannot uninstall QEMU
[17:31] <Beldar> luca, I have no knowledge of Virtual Machine, so not sure of the issue. I use vbox and launch the iso or install from it.
[17:31] <luca> penguin42: now on QEMU I see "Code: a lot of numbers and letters"
[17:32] <luca> Beldar: How can I use only vbox and not QEMU
[17:32] <Beldar> luca, Download it make a machine and use it, pretty straight forward.
[17:33] <penguin42> luca: vbox is just a different virtual machine system
[17:34] <luca> Beldar: I downloaded it and I am able to open virtual machine but when I launch the ISO my laptop opens QEMU
[17:35] <luca> penguin42, the problem is that i cannot follow the video of nicholas
[17:36] <Beldar> luca, downloaded what, this is not vbox right? if it is I can help, otherwise not really. Virtual environments are in some sense similar, learning how to use any one takes a bit of effort, so trying vbox will have the same learning time as any other.
[17:36] <luca> Beldar, I downloaded VirtualBox and installed it
[17:37] <Beldar> luca, Did you make a machine and link the iso to it, and launch the iso from the vbox gui?
[17:37] <luca> Beldar, I'd like to unistall and QEMU but I cannot because I don't know how to uninstall it
[17:38] <luca> Beldar, I'm using TestDrive as Nicholas sussested in his video
[17:39] <luca> Beldar, I clicked on Ubuntu Desktop - (Trusty)
[17:39] <Beldar> luca, I would not just uninstall it as a response to it being defaulted to at the moment, but figure out what the correct use of whatever virtual you want.
[17:40] <luca> Beldar, Nicholas clicked on Launch button on the testdrive
[17:40] <Beldar> luca, Can you give us the link to that video.
[17:40] <luca> Beldar, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGZF6UHhl4I
[17:42] <Beldar> luca, So what is your end goal here?
[17:44] <luca> Beldar, I want to ask you why my laptop opens QEMU and not virtual box as in that video. Are you seeing the video?
[17:46] <Beldar> luca, I have never used testdisk so I have no idea, personally I just do a full install of the development and run it. Looks kinda complex, I would would suggest you ask yourself what is the final goal as is this the easiest methodology.
[17:46] <Beldar> and is*
[17:47] <luca> Beldar, it' snot testdisk but testdrive. How can you do a full install of the development? Do you install on USB?
[17:48] <luca> Beldar, I want to test ISO of Ubuntu and contribute to the tester group
[17:48] <Beldar> luca, Yeah I use a usb, I have 3 versions of ubuntu and W8.1 on my SSD, I'm a longterm multibooter
[17:49] <luca> Beldar. so you think that it's better to use USB than QEMU or virtualbox?
[17:50] <Beldar> luca, Sure, contributing is a noble cause, again I would suggest you ask yourself do you have the actual skills to be effective. Myself a user of about 7 years, I started on open source don;t feel I have the skills to really contribute much to be honest, I just do support here on the areas I know.
[17:51] <luca> Beldar, I only want to reproduce the video of nicholas but i cannot
[17:52] <Beldar> I can't really help there I have not used all the tools is all luca
[17:52] <luca> Beldar, thanks anyway
[17:53] <Beldar> luca, No problem, you will figure it out. ;)
[17:53] <luca> Beldar, Carla Sella suggested to me this video
[17:54] <Beldar> luca, no prb.
[18:17] <luca> Dear friends, could you give to me some advices to test ubuntu ISO for the first time? It is better to launch from DVD? Or from USB?
[18:23] <penguin42> USB
[18:27] <luca> penguin42, which kind of USB? How many GB?
[18:28] <penguin42> luca: USB thumb drive, at least a bit bigger than the ISO you use
[18:34] <luca> penguin42, the iso i want to launch are instable, like 14.04 i find them herehttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/61829/testcases/1300/results
[18:35] <luca> penguin42, i want to give my contribute to ubuntu testing new isos
[18:36] <bekks> 14.04 is considered to be unstable, yet.
[18:37] <bekks> erm, still.
[18:37] <luca> bekks, the iso I want to launch is Alpha Second, do you know it?
[18:37] <bekks> 14.04?
[18:42] <luca> bekks, yes 14.04
[18:43] <luca> bekks, did you receive the mail by Jonathan Riddel??
[18:44] <bekks> If I did, it went into my spam folder, since I dont know him.
[18:48] <luca> bekks, he is an important ubuntu developer http://jriddell.org/
[18:50] <bekks> I know he doesnt know me - why should he email me?
[18:51] <bekks> And what would he mail me? :)
[19:20] <blocky> are 'daily' images actually produced daily?
[19:20] <blocky> or just weekdays?
[19:20] <bekks> daily :)
[19:21] <bekks> Otherwise they would be named "workdays" :)
[19:21] <blocky> lol
[19:21] <blocky> these ones haven't been updated since friday http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[19:21] <bekks> Which isnt that tragically, isnt it?
[19:22] <blocky> hmm? I'm not complaining, just asking about process
[19:26] <bekks> Normally, they are built daily - but there always may be circumstances which do not allow building, seeding, etc.
[19:27] <blocky> okay thanks
[19:28] <blocky> is there an updated list of bugs or is that basically the mailing list?
[19:30] <bekks> I only use a current daily to install - and just used apt-get update / dist-upgrade, instead of reinstalling.
[19:31] <blocky> I'm going to attempt to install the jan24 amd64 iso on my laptop
[19:37] <attrapereves> Has anyone had problems with their network connection dying randomly?
[19:37]  * penguin421 couldn't say today - I've been screwing around with my router
[19:39] <attrapereves> Sometimes my wired connection will randomly die. Pinging anthing on the internet or on my local network does not work. Unplugging and replugging the ethernet cable does not work either.
[19:39] <penguin421> attrapereves: OK, so check whether you can ping your cable/dsl router by IP address
[19:40] <attrapereves> Doesn't work either. The only thing that fixes it is rebooting the computer.
[19:40] <penguin421> attrapereves: hmm ok, so I'd check with ifconfig or ip addr   to see whether the interface is up and has the right IP address
[19:41] <penguin421> wired or wireless?
[19:41] <attrapereves> wired
[19:41] <attrapereves> when I check ifconfig, an ip address still shows beside the device.
[19:43] <attrapereves> Also, when I click Disconnect in the notification area, nothing happens.
[19:44] <penguin421> attrapereves: difficult to know what to suggest, personally I'd get out tcpdump to see what's going on on the wire and check the logs for anything log
[19:44] <penguin421> odd
[19:50] <attrapereves> going through /var/log/syslog right now.
[19:53] <attrapereves> Any idea what this error message means?
[19:53] <attrapereves> NetworkManager[693]: <warn> nl_recvmsgs() error: (-33) Dump inconsistency detected, interrupted
[19:55] <penguin421> no, never seen that
[19:56] <penguin421> but it doesn't sound like actually network device
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[20:00] <attrapereves> Those of you who backup offsite, which service do you use?
[20:00] <attrapereves> I've been using Amazon S3, but might try something else.
[20:18] <tim`> is there something you need to do in 14.04 to make all the fonts not look horrendous in gnome?
[20:23] <Beldar> tim`, Have you modified them already, mine look fine in the shell.
[20:23] <tim`> no, actually i can only launch flashback gnome- im not sure whats going on with shell
[20:25] <Beldar> tim`, How did you instal the flashback the commands for this and the shell have changed at times?
[20:26] <tim`> i had it on an older install - and used do-release-upgrade -d
[20:26] <tim`> flashback does work - it isnt pretty
[20:26] <Beldar> tim`, So this is an upgrade from 13.10?
[20:27] <tim`> i think it was actually from 12.04
[20:27] <tim`> not sure though
[20:28] <Beldar> tim`, Ah, I never upgrade so not sure, you might check that the upgrade installed all packages no errors, maybe run sudo apt-get -f install to check, did you modify the fonts in 12.04?
[20:29] <tim`> i had to run that a few times to get it to finish but apt-get is happy now - i dont think i modified fonts at all in 12.04
[20:29] <blocky> is this a problem?
[20:30] <tim`> its wierd its not like a font issue i guess - the background for all menus is just white which is very strange
[20:30] <tim`> and im not sure why shell wont start
[20:30] <blocky> (ubiquity:6846): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/root/.cache/dconf': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly.
[20:30] <Beldar> tim`, You might try the guest account and see if this is the same there or make a new user in users and check there as well to confirm whether it may be this account only
[20:30] <tim`> yeah thats a good idea lets see here
[20:31] <Beldar> blocky, Context?
[20:31] <Beldar> tim`, If you loaded a graphic driver it will not follow a upgrade.
[20:32] <tim`> yeah i already fixed that
[20:32] <tim`> glxgears runs fine
[20:32] <tim`> and xv rendering
[20:32] <blocky> Beldar: just happened to notice it in the small terminal embedded in the installer while installing from livecd session
[20:32] <tim`> guest account behavior appears to be the same
[20:35] <Beldar> blocky, with a quick search I found this bug report, not sure if it is an answer though. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/989968
[20:35] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 989968 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer error: Unable to create '/root/cache/dconf'; dconf will not work properly." [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:35] <tim`> ahhhhg - ok i think maybe i needed to add a apt gpg key and dist-upgrade another 1988 packages :}
[20:36] <tim`> do-release-upgrade did not add the 3B4FE6A.... key
[20:36] <Beldar> tim`, These PPA's
[20:39] <blocky> Beldar: thanks, installation did not complain and seems to have booted correctly, so I won't worry too much
[20:41] <tim`> im kind of supprised i can launch gnome at all in this clusterfuck of a state lol
[20:50] <luca> What do you need for testing ISO?
[20:50] <bekks> "testing" what exactly?
[20:51] <luca> ISO release of ubuntu
[20:52] <luca> for instance 14.04
[20:52] <bekks> Define "testing".
[20:52] <bekks> What do you want to "test"?
[20:53] <luca> bekks, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGZF6UHhl4I
[20:53] <bekks> I'm not going to watch a video.
[20:53] <luca> I want to reproduce this
[20:53] <bekks> Then describe "this" in one sentence please :)
[20:54] <luca> He is testing ubuntu release with testdrive and virtualbox
[20:54] <bekks> Then your question is answered. You need Virtualbox, you need to create a vm, and you need to install your vm using the ISO.
[20:54] <luca> I installed testdrive and also virtualbox but my laptop open QEMU instead of vbox
[20:55] <bekks> Then start vbox, and not qemu and not testdrive.
[20:56] <luca> bekks, you can start vbox but when you launch the iso my laptop opens QEMU
[20:56] <Beldar> blocky, Yeah I would treat it the same.
[20:56] <bekks> luca: You never "launch an ISO".
[20:56] <bekks> luca: You start Virtualbox, you create a vm, you attach the ISO to your VM, and then you start the VM. No qemu or testdrive involved at all.
[20:57] <luca> beeks, i clicked on button Launch on testdrive
[20:57] <bekks> luca: Did you read what I just wrote?
[20:58] <luca> bekks, where can i find how virtualbox works
[20:59] <bekks> luca: In the virtualbox documentation on www.virtualbox.org