[05:58] slangasek: 3.13.0-4-generic is known to be buggy in a few ways. -1 or -5 are all fixed. [06:08] if im going to compile a custom kernel, should i use the ubuntu kernel's instead of kernel.orgs? [12:06] jarkko_, "hard patching" assuming you mean "is every ubuntu kernel patched relative to its mainline equivalent" then that is a yes [12:07] what those patches usually are? fixes or drivers? [12:07] jarkko_, and we use ufw by default (for network security) which uses a simple "DENY everything EXCEPT" framework using iptables at the kernel level [12:07] jarkko_, fixes which arn't yet upstream yet, extra drivers not yet upstream, that is about it, plus our own configs [12:19] xnox: yah, that's what rtg tells me === zz_mwhudson is now known as mwhudson