[00:13] <moreati> maps|work: also the channel is logged, see the /topic for the url
[00:32] <maps|work> ahh thanks moreati
[00:32] <maps|work> didnt even think of that, cheers
[00:32] <maps|work> :)
[02:42] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: IPv6 is now functional \o/
[02:59] <Azelphur> anyone awake to help me with network-manager not working?
[02:59] <Azelphur> this ones a longstanding issue, it won't ever connect, always used dhclient eth0 as a workaround, but that doesn't work for IPv6 :(
[03:15] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wgcBK8Y7 looks like it might shed some light on the issue
[03:19] <daftykins> those logs read like both v4 and v6 are failing to get a timely response from your DHCP server for both
[03:21] <Azelphur> daftykins, really? to me it looks like apparmor is denying the machine to even make a DHCP request
[03:21] <Azelphur> if I dhclient eth0 it comes straight up, so the routers DHCP is fine
[03:21] <daftykins> oh yeah, i mean as a result potentially
[03:22] <daftykins> i thought as you're here you'd have v4 working at least, do you run static instead?
[03:22] <daftykins> you and your setups ;) how can even DHCP be quirky XD
[03:22] <Azelphur> I'm on my laptop at the moment, my PC has had this problem for a while
[03:23] <Azelphur> but dhclient eth0 works as a workaround, although no IPv6, and also annoying
[03:23] <daftykins> ah
[03:23] <daftykins> no extra switches or what not with dhclient to query for both?
[03:23] <daftykins> i've still had pretty much zero exposure to v6 sadly
[03:23] <Azelphur> not that I know of, would prefer to fix it properly anyway
[03:24] <Azelphur> running dhclient every boot gets old
[03:24] <daftykins> indeed!
[03:24] <daftykins> i take it the interfaces file is clean of eth0 references so as to not ruin NM's day?
[03:25] <Azelphur> yup, only loopback in there
[03:25] <daftykins> hrmmph
[03:25] <daftykins> desktop always did it across clean installs, so trying a fresh user wouldn't help?
[03:26] <Azelphur> nah I imagine a clean install would help
[03:27] <daftykins> or find the NM config and nuke it as a test i guess
[03:27] <daftykins> anywho, must sleep :D
[03:27] <daftykins> semi crazy o'clock reached
[03:27] <daftykins> gl with it!
[03:28] <Azelphur> \o/
[03:43] <ali1234> i thought you weren't supposed to use dhcp with ipv6?
[04:20] <Azelphur> ali1234: seems to work now, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Jan/2014-01-26-041110_972x765_scrot.png
[04:20] <Azelphur> it was apparmor.
[08:07] <mapps> hey
[08:07] <mapps> i had trouble getting ipv6 working..using a he.net tunnel..i could acces ipv6 www sites but not ipv6 irc
[08:07] <mapps> ;(
[08:10] <mapps> anyone got any ideas?
[08:16] <mapps> ?:(
[09:57] <MartijnVdS> mapps: does ping6 work?
[09:58] <MartijnVdS> mapps: which IRC server are you using? is it up?
[10:10] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:11] <TwistedLucidity> Unpaid overtime. What's good about it? :-(
[10:14] <MartijnVdS> TwistedLucidity: for the employer? Free labour!
[10:45] <knightwise> popey: you awake ?
[10:45] <knightwise> morning everyone :)
[10:46]  * knightwise is looking for a minecraft player to write a guestblogpost on knightwise.com
[10:46]  * brobostigon is a minecraft newbie.
[10:50] <knightwise> brobostigon: its cross platform right ? i mean you can play it on mac/pc/linux
[10:50] <brobostigon> its java, yes.
[10:50] <MartijnVdS> it is
[11:07]  * TwistedLucidity is wonderiny why the Lenovo support site doesn't work in FF on Kubuntu
[11:10] <knightwise> anyone feeling interested to do a blogpost on it ?
[11:10] <knightwise> because I don't know anything about the game , it would be kinda idiotic for me to do a writeup
[11:11] <knightwise> and I would hate to leave it out of our "game week" series
[11:16] <TwistedLucidity> knightwise: Minetest is a F/OSS version of Minecraft http://www.minetest.net/ I really can't comment much further as I've never played Minecraft.
[11:18] <knightwise> thanx TwistedLucidity i'll look at the link ! :)
[11:20] <brobostigon> i used to run a minetest server also.
[11:33]  * TwistedLucidity has discovered that Lenovo uses Google Analytics for *every mouse click*. That explains why their site does not work here.
[11:33]  * TwistedLucidity thinks Lenovo are idiots for doing this
[11:49] <MartijnVdS> TwistedLucidity: probably management wanted more/spiffier graphs
[11:50] <TwistedLucidity> Probably, but they'll get mor sales the easier I can get at the parts list!
[11:50] <TwistedLucidity> And get this, genuine Lenovo screw & take kit is ~£30 from resellers but ~£5 direct from Lenovo.
[11:50] <TwistedLucidity> Madness
[11:50] <MartijnVdS> see, they're not making money on that
[11:50] <popey> morning
[11:51] <MartijnVdS> they're making sure you use the resellers
[11:51] <MartijnVdS> \o popey
[11:51] <popey> i am now knightwise
[11:51] <MartijnVdS> popey: hi knightwise!
[11:51] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, but I intend to buy more.
[11:59] <Myrtti> popey: did you order the herb salt?
[11:59] <popey> not yet
[12:00] <Myrtti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNLcwqUOXfQ <--
[12:00] <Myrtti> (not related)
[12:00] <Myrtti> (a lot)
[12:45]  * popey wonders what whenever he visits a steam page it's in spanish
[12:45] <popey> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=218631926
[12:45] <popey> http://imgur.com/vQRiUrx
[12:47] <MartijnVdS> popey: do you have cookies for their domain? Maybe it's set to spanish in there
[12:48] <MartijnVdS> popey: maybe you can select the language in a preference screen and store it in your profile somehow?
[13:08] <ali1234> that happened to me before
[13:08] <ali1234> you just have to switch language back to en and it remembers
[13:09] <ali1234> happens if you follow a google search result that happens to link to another language page
[13:25] <popey> ahh
[13:25] <popey> problem is, how do you change language when you're in a language you can't read ☻
[13:26] <popey> in fact i see no option in http://steamcommunity.com/id/popeydc/edit
[13:27] <popey> aha, found it under the top right menu
[14:25] <foobarry> is nemo the fish meant to be disabled? one fin seems stunted
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: yes, it's mentioned in the movie several times
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> he has a weird fin
[14:31] <foobarry> http://www.breaknenter.org/projects/inception/
[14:32] <foobarry> You can also use Inception to elevate privileges on (almost) any machine you have physical access to.
[14:35] <Seeker`> popey: why are you looking at a unicomp keyboard specifically
[14:54]  * penguin42 removes a very clean 5p piece from the drier
[14:55] <Laney> probably worth about 10p now
[14:55] <TwistedLucidity> penguin42: Has it shrunk, maybe it 10p before it went in the drier?
[14:55] <penguin42> haha cold have been
[14:55]  * Laney knows someone who bought 10p for £1 because it was extremely shiny
[14:55] <penguin42> Laney: Please introduce me to them
[15:02] <foobarry> i have some snake oil for them
[15:03] <popey> Seeker`: i want a keyboard which is clacky like the model m, but has a super key and a nipple
[15:03] <penguin42> 'Excuse me, but can I buy your nipple?'
[15:03] <popey> as I'm off to florida next week I may order one and get it shipped to co-worker who lives there
[15:04] <penguin42> popey: wth would you want a full size keyboard with a nipple?
[15:04] <popey> why would i not?
[15:04] <Seeker`> because you'd use a mouse instead? :P
[15:04] <penguin42> well the only point in nipples seems to be to provide a very compact pointing device on laptops where you don't have the room for a mouse
[15:04] <popey> mice are for losers
[15:04] <popey> and gamers
[15:04] <popey> that is not the case
[15:05] <popey> there are multiple reasons why nipple > mouse
[15:05] <popey> (and some cases where mouse > nipple)
[15:05]  * penguin42 has never liked nipples; always prefer the trackpads
[15:05] <foobarry> dell inverted ones are nice
[15:05] <popey> I do have a mouse on both desktop and laptop but almost never use them
[15:05] <popey> only use mice for gaming, and even then rarely
[15:05] <Seeker`> I'm using a "Das Keyboard" which I love, but it does'nt have the nipple
[15:06] <popey> having a middle button on a thinkpad keyboard also is a winner for scrolling
[15:06] <penguin42> (Note, don't bother phoning Lloyds at the moment - it's >10min wait for an adviser)
[15:10] <shauno> interesting read foobarry.  I gotta admit to a little smugness reading that OSX already mitigates it
[15:11] <penguin42> it's odd, this story was doing the rounds a few years ago - I'd thought there was some basic fix that went in back then
[15:11] <penguin42> but fundamentally the only fix is to need user confirm of any hot plug
[15:12] <shauno> it seems apple's fix is to disable the functionality while the screen's locked, which seems like a sane compromise to me
[15:14] <penguin42> nod
[15:16] <foobarry> even thru display port?
[15:17] <foobarry> id like to try this when i get well again/have time
[15:17] <penguin42> I think you mean thunderbolt not display port
[15:18] <foobarry> either or
[15:18] <penguin42> in which case I suspect they'll disable firewire interface on it, but I doubt they'll stop a dma attack via pci-e
[15:18] <penguin42> foobarry: I don't think there's much nasty you can do on display prot
[15:18] <penguin42> port
[15:21] <shauno> it seems the CVE specifically addresses the firewire dma, so fw over tb should be the same; but no idea about pci-e dma
[15:22] <penguin42> I suspect the thunderbolt interfaces to have an iommu or the like, but not sure - e.g. if you hot plugged say something that pretended to be a SATA controller or a video card onto the thunderbolt port it might be able to DMA from anywhere
[15:22] <penguin42> but firewire is just so much easier because you can mount the attack from a laptop with firewire
[15:23] <foobarry> what about powered on machines with a boot loader password like truecypt?
[15:23] <penguin42> make no difference
[15:23] <foobarry> its pre boot
[15:23] <penguin42> preboot it's harder
[15:24] <penguin42> but I'd insert some extra code at that point that stores the passphrase entered and transmits it to the evil person
[15:24] <penguin42> then walk away and wait for the user to type their passphrase
[15:24] <shauno> on mine it seems it's not available at that stage because I have a firmware password
[15:24] <penguin42> yeh that's a good thing to have
[15:26] <shauno> I think on most machines there's little concern at that stage because there's no drivers loaded yet.  although efi can make that a bit murky (eg, I do have firewire drivers at efi)
[15:26] <penguin42> shauno: Still, an interesting question if it has enabled expresscard/thunderbolt/firewire at that point - I wouldn't be too surprised if it's initialised expresscard at that point
[15:29] <shauno> it seems it's mostly interesting that you can use it to hit a system that's up, and leave it up.  that's quite sneaky
[15:29] <penguin42> nod
[15:30] <penguin42> machine left at screensaver or in powersave
[15:30] <shauno> right - you open my laptop, you get a lock screen
[15:37] <shauno> hm, that civclicker .. zombies are kinda overpowered
[15:39] <penguin42> haha you must have gone on for a bit longer - after about 5 hours yesterday I got my life back
[15:39] <shauno> 12 hour shifts beg for such distractions
[15:40] <shauno> but as soon as I figured out that the 'underworld' religion lets you raise the dead and use them as regular workers - but they don't count towards housing or food costs
[15:40] <shauno> I starved every last worker.  I now have a population of zero, with nearly 7 million zombies
[15:41] <penguin42> haha
[15:41] <penguin42> much more useful than cats
[15:43] <shauno> whenever you need more workers, just send them to war against anyone.  win or lose, you'll still end up with enough corpses to make a net gain
[15:43] <penguin42> you might want to report that as a bug :-)
[15:45] <shauno> the other catch that makes them overpowered is that the cost doesn't scale.  living workers get more expensive every time you buy them.  zombies are fixed at 100 piety
[15:48] <shauno> it doesn't seem to count zombies against population though.  so I peaked at 'small town', and now have a 'thorp' (the smallest settlement size) with 7 million residents
[15:49] <penguin42> but are you 'overcrowded'?
[15:49] <shauno> nowhere close, that's buildings vs land size, not population
[15:50] <shauno> and I have a whole tonne of land acquired from raiding
[15:51] <shauno> the only downside I've found from this tactic, is that there's no such thing as a happy zombie, so you're capped at 'content'
[15:51] <penguin42> but does anything bad happen when your population is content?
[15:51] <penguin42> and I guess your zombies don't get ill so you don't need apothecaries
[15:52] <shauno> doesn't seem so.  I think there's a production bonus for being happier?  but I pretty much have a chinese labour market, I don't need production bonuses
[15:52] <penguin42> can you use zombies as clerics?
[15:53] <shauno> yes.  I pretty much have to, since piety is required to raise more dead
[15:53] <penguin42> yeh that's what I was thinking
[15:53] <shauno> (although they also gain piety from deaths, so mass-murder is also a valid tactic)
[16:01] <penguin42> you should be a Daily Mail headline righter
[16:01] <penguin42> writer
[16:02] <shauno> that actually crossed my mind during an attack.  the status log had "barbarians killed an unemployed"
[16:20] <Myrtti> I wonder if it's possible that my laptop wifi interferes with the wifi of my Nexus 5?
[16:40] <foobarry> run wifi analyser
[16:41] <foobarry> to check how busy the channels are
[16:41] <foobarry> and have your neighbours had a baby recently?
[16:46] <foobarry> Bletchley is currently in the throes of a bitter dispute, between owners who want to create a brand new visitors centre, and volunteers who have been working on the site for years.'
[16:48] <penguin42> who are the owners?
[16:49] <foobarry> dunno, haven't watched the bbc report
[16:49] <foobarry> the people who raised 4M moneys
[16:49] <foobarry> to save it
[16:49] <foobarry> btw... http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/evil-maid-goes-after-truecrypt.html
[16:53] <mapps> ah MartijnVdS i went to sleep sorry
 mapps: does ping6 work?
 mapps: which IRC server are you using? is it up?
[16:53] <mapps> but no and no but i can nslookup an ipv6 host
[16:55] <shauno> so if you, eg, "ping -c 1 2a03:2880:2110:df07:face:b00c:0:1" computer says no?
[16:55] <mapps> yea it says no
[16:55] <mapps> but i can do like nslookup iov6.google.com ?
[16:55] <mapps> and it returns the ipv6
[16:56] <mapps> this is using an he.net ipv6 tunnel
[16:56] <shauno> it sounds like you don't have v6 but your nameserver does
[16:56] <mapps> ahh
[16:56] <mapps> of course
[16:56] <mapps> because im using the google ns
[16:56] <mapps> hmm
[16:57] <mapps> this was on windows7 too...and now its a bit of a mess not sure how to remove the tunnel etc and readd
[16:57] <mapps> maybe i should leave that and try setting it up on my ubuntumachine
[16:57] <brobostigon> if i have 'hg clone' a repo, how do i update said clone for any changes?
[17:00] <mapps> no idea:D
[17:01] <brobostigon> git i know, but mercurial, not a clue.
[17:01] <mapps> hey shauno  just remebered i can reach ipv6.google and the ipv6 test says im ipv6 enabled?
[17:02] <mapps> geez how can people pay these rents..house few doors down £1725 a month
[17:04] <penguin42> mapps: For what size house?
[17:05] <mapps> 4bed
[17:07] <mapps> feels like a lot to me
[17:07] <mapps> i d struggle to pay it on my own
[17:07] <shauno> I honestly wouldn't know where to start on windows.  especially since I think 7 should try to do toredo out-of-the-box, which will confuse me hugely
[17:09] <penguin42> mapps: a 1 bed flat is about 700 here I think, so a few people sharing would be cheaper than 3 of those - but probably less space than 3 1 bed flats?
[17:09] <mapps> im not sure its 4 bed with a dining room/lounge/kitchen and a really big garden
[17:09] <mapps> wheres here
[17:10] <mapps> and i was on about paying it alone i dont wanna rent with others!
[17:15] <mapps> anyone watch Helix?
[18:49] <an0n432O> hi
[18:50] <mapps> hi an0key_
[18:50] <mapps> an0n432O,
[18:56] <an0n432O> hi mapps
[19:07] <mapps> pretty cold outside brrr!
[19:07] <penguin421> stay in this nice warm channel
[19:09] <mapps> ;]
[19:09] <an0n432O> yeah
[19:09] <an0n432O> def
[19:10] <daftykins> it's going down to the nippy lows of 4 deg C on the island tonight!
[19:10] <daftykins> :)
[19:11] <an0n432O> i thought iy would never get cold
[19:11] <an0n432O> it
[19:11] <mapps> heh
[19:11] <mapps> well id rather it was a tad warme
[19:11] <mapps> going from inside-> outsides not nice
[19:11] <mapps> :(
[19:11] <an0n432O> it has been though, unusually
[19:11] <mapps> the walk to work || walk to gym ==  walk as fast as possible
[19:11] <mapps> :D
[19:11] <an0n432O> u n/s?
[19:12] <an0n432O> i had to get up at 6 and walk a mile
[19:13] <mapps> n/s?
[19:13] <an0n432O> north/south uk?
[19:13] <mapps> ahh
[19:13] <mapps> midlands now
[19:13] <mapps> from south originally
[19:14] <an0n432O> 1/2 and 1/2 then but colder than here
[19:14] <mapps> often get told how i sound 'posh' or 'gay' as some say one fool even said i put my accent on
[19:14] <mapps> :D
[19:14] <daftykins> i have my Guernsey voice and my England voice ;)
[19:15] <mapps> i just have my normal voice
[19:15] <mapps> lol
[19:15] <an0n432O> whats wrong with being gay? its 2014
[19:15] <mapps> i couldnt manage to put on a fake accent and maintain it 24/7..thatd be pretty tough no?
[19:15] <mapps> to keep it up and not slip up
[19:15] <an0n432O> yeah gurnsey is a bit posh
[19:15] <an0n432O> yeah
[19:15] <mapps> didnt say there was an0n432O  but im not :)
[19:15] <an0n432O> i know
[19:15] <daftykins> lol Guernsey's not posh
[19:15] <directhex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuR5YMyfeNI
[19:16] <an0n432O> i mean whoever says your gay
[19:16] <an0n432O> the accent is i mean
[19:16] <an0n432O> whats that?
[19:18] <Myrtti> daftykins: oi
[19:18] <Myrtti> daftykins: recommend me a reputable webshop for the blue jumpers
[19:19] <Myrtti> something that sells products not knitted by tiny hands in Bangladesh
[19:20] <an0n432O> directhex, u a hex programmer? i just discovered i hate machine code and assembler
[19:20] <directhex> no. i like c# though
[19:20] <an0n432O> ok
[19:20] <an0n432O> i can cope with c. i just tried assembler, fuckin nasty
[19:21] <mapps> c/c++ is ok
[19:21] <bigcalm> !ohmy | an0n432O
[19:21] <mapps> assembler..hm i never find decent assembler guides/references
[19:21] <an0n432O> yeah its ok
[19:22] <an0n432O> its not really used anymore is it?
[19:22] <mapps> well uhh i guess not mainstream but sometimes itd be useful
[19:22] <an0n432O> yeah
[19:22] <directhex> inline assembly is used in plenty of c projects
[19:22] <an0n432O> a happy medium between basic and assembler
[19:23] <an0n432O> there just too much maths in it
[19:23] <mapps> whats that mean directhex  asm in c?!
[19:23] <directhex> mapps, yeah. C source with scraps of asm inside
[19:23] <an0n432O> c is a higher level language than assembler
[19:23] <directhex> pretty common, especially in JITters and interpreters
[19:24] <mapps> yea
[19:24] <mapps> asm is lower level of coz
[19:25] <daftykins> Myrtti: err, me? not familiar with any i'm afraid :( unless i shipped you a true 'Guernsey' :D
[19:25] <Myrtti> awwwww
[19:26] <an0n432O> its a horrible language. adding/dividing,etc in 2's,4's and eights,etc
[19:26] <mapps> ;]
[19:27] <an0n432O> using registers for everything, writing lines of code just to add up 10 and 5
[19:27] <an0n432O> evil
[19:29] <mapps> tvs so rubbish
[19:29] <an0n432O> ill stick to c and basic
[19:29] <an0n432O> yeah, do c4 or bbc ever make any new programmes?
[19:30] <mapps> rubbish ones
[19:30] <mapps> like Miranda
[19:30] <mapps> ugh
[19:30] <an0n432O> i reckon theyve gone skint cos no one pays a tv licence anymore, they just watch over the internet
[19:33] <SuperEngineer> bigcalm: just got out the bath [fwiw] - well done for the interception earlier on
[19:36] <penguin421> directhex: Although most JITs don't bother with the asm - they just spit machine code direct into memory
[19:36] <daftykins> Myrtti: oh wait you actually did mean a real Guernsey
[19:36] <daftykins> Myrtti: they're only locally made as it's a high skill job afaik
[19:36] <daftykins> there was a news item the other day about how high in demand they are, but so few people locally can make them
[19:38] <mapps> whats this?
[19:38] <daftykins> a Guernsey
[19:38] <an0n432O> could anyone here recommend a super fast, super quiet server?
[19:38] <MartijnVdS> an0n432O: a CPS somewhere
[19:38] <daftykins> any PC can be a server, depends what you want to run
[19:38] <MartijnVdS> VPS*
[19:38] <penguin421> yeh, a server somewhere else is always the quietest :-)
[19:38] <MartijnVdS> well, the host it runs on is probably *LOUD*, but you won't hear it from home ;)
[19:39] <mapps> lol
[19:40] <an0n432O> its for my room
[19:40] <an0n432O> so i need to get some sleep
[19:40] <an0n432O> i want a proper deicated server
[19:40] <an0n432O> webhosting, etc
[19:40] <MartijnVdS> an0n432O: how powerful do you want it?
[19:40] <an0n432O> sick
[19:40] <MartijnVdS> because fanless ones exist
[19:41] <an0n432O> yes thats it
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> an0n432O: http://linitx.com/product/jetway-jbc362f362600-intel-atom-16ghz-barebone-system/13607
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> an0n432O: just add an SSD and some memory
[19:41] <an0n432O> cool
[19:41] <an0n432O> how much?
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> it's an 1.6GHz atom, so it's not a speed monster.. but it should be fine for most home-server purposes
[19:42] <MartijnVdS> an0n432O: you can buy it on that site, or maybe you can find it cheaper somewhere lese
[19:42]  * MartijnVdS hasn't checked
[19:42] <penguin421> an0n432O: I got an MSI C847MS  motherboard and put it in an old chassis; it's a dual core 1.1GHz celeron
[19:43] <Myrtti> daftykins: well, I suppose an article like this doesn't make it any easier ;-) http://www.taloussanomat.fi/harrastukset/2014/01/26/ma-seuduilla-nailla-oon-tunnettu-kalamiesneule/20141168/139
[19:43] <penguin421> an0n432O: It's fanless, and I put it in a case with a PSU that's got a temperature controlled fan that hardly ever goes around, and with an SSD it's almost always silent
[19:43] <penguin421> an0n432O: But, in the end it's only a 1.1GHz celeron
[19:44] <brobostigon> anyone built apache wave before?
[19:45] <an0n432O> looks noisy
[19:45] <an0n432O> id like a blade server
[19:45] <SuperEngineer> while every body's on the hardware part of their brain stores... anyone know if DDR2 RAM can still be got obtained [from a *reliable* source?]
[19:45] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: sure
[19:45] <penguin421> an0n432O: Yeh but blade servers are normally only slightly quieter than a 747 engine
[19:45] <SuperEngineer> oooh!
[19:45] <penguin421> SuperEngineer: Yeh
[19:45] <an0n432O> no good then
[19:46] <penguin421> SuperEngineer: crucial.com has it
[19:46] <an0n432O> id rather not build one
[19:46] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: http://tweakers.net/categorie/545/geheugen-intern/producten/#filter:q1YqSExPDc6sSlWyMjQw0FEqKMpMTvXNzFOyAnKKC1KT3TJzSlKLipWsqpUMjc1BVFlijpJVtJKpUmxtbS0A
[19:46] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: ;)
[19:46] <an0n432O> that jetway looks noisy
[19:46] <MartijnVdS> an0n432O: it's fanless.
[19:46] <an0n432O> ok
[19:46] <an0n432O> cool
[19:46]  * SuperEngineer checks out various links...
[19:46] <an0n432O> id like something a bit more powerful though
[19:46] <penguin421> SuperEngineer: http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listmodule/DDR2/list.html   or go to their motherboard/model checker thing
[19:47] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: you need something like that tweakers.net/pricewatch for the UK ;)
[19:47] <daftykins> Myrtti: seriously though do you want to buy one? :>
[19:47] <Myrtti> daftykins: mabbe
[19:47] <SuperEngineer> thanks MartijnVdS
[19:47] <Myrtti> but before anything I need pizza
[19:47] <SuperEngineer> & penguin421
[19:47]  * Myrtti goes to microwave
[19:47]  * penguin421 reckons a gehugen-intern is RAM
[19:48] <MartijnVdS> penguin421: memory-internal
[19:48] <MartijnVdS> but it lists mostly Dutch online stores
[19:48] <penguin421> MartijnVdS: The picture was better :-)
[19:49] <penguin421> MartijnVdS: There is a sight like that which lists many EU sites - but I can't remember it's name - it had 3 or 4 UK ones on but mostly German
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> penguin421: http://uk.hardware.info/pricecomparer ?
[19:52] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: I *do* like the way way crucial works.... thanks a mil
[19:56] <SuperEngineer> ...though surprised at price... [£53 tax incl.]
[19:56] <SuperEngineer> [for 4GB]
[19:57] <penguin421> SuperEngineer: DDR2 is now more expensive
[19:57] <SuperEngineer> penguin421: yup... just found out!  ;)
[19:59] <SuperEngineer> ... if only the "don't waste the planet" part of my brain would let me a new pooter :)
[19:59] <SuperEngineer> *let me buy
[20:10] <SuperEngineer> [still that + graphics card upgrade is still a cheap option.... especially as current pooter only has a prob with *1* Steam game - rest of my pooter's world is a good 1]
[20:49] <maps|work> hello
[20:51] <shauno> ugh, try buying ecc ddr2.  that'll make you sadface.
[21:02] <daftykins> ECC D:
[21:02] <daftykins> madness!
[21:04] <maps|work> http://gizmodo.com/meth-in-london-heroin-in-zagreb-the-answer-is-found-i-1508209127
[21:27] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)
[21:36] <popey> yo
[21:36] <popey>  3283 root      20   0 8539064 5.377g 243172 S  12.9 34.6 326:31.88 Xorg
[21:37] <popey> grrr
[21:49] <diplo> Still having xorg issues then popey  :(
[21:50] <maps|work> ;[
[21:56] <popey> yeah, luckily it's reproduced by others so no just me
[22:24] <popey> Seems April 5 2010 was the last time my viglen was booted
[22:24] <webpigeon> o.O
[22:30] <brobostigon> ello webpigeon
[22:31] <webpigeon> Hello brobostigon :)
[22:31] <bigcalm> popey: you got it booted, cor
[22:31] <bigcalm> popey: now what? :P
[22:31] <brobostigon> webpigeon: didnt know you hung out here, :)
[22:31] <webpigeon> brobostigon: I'm about, I just don't talk much
[22:31] <brobostigon> webpigeon: ah.
[22:34] <maps|work> ello
[22:44] <popey> bigcalm: reformat
[22:52] <bigcalm> popey: ah, and then skip?
[23:00] <popey> no, but it's not well.