[04:51] morning all [06:35] hi hekkwan [06:42] hmm... [06:42] morning superfly [07:19] hi Xethron [07:29] join #critterding [07:29] oops. [07:29] Hi [07:29] hi theblazehen [07:29] hehe [07:29] hey Kilos [07:45] good morning all [07:53] hey magespawn [07:53] hi theblazehen [07:53] how are things/ [07:53] ? [07:53] hi there magespawn [07:54] hey Kilos [07:57] magespawn, good and you? [07:58] good thanks [08:01] magespawn, what you been up to lately? How's that wifi rollout going? [08:02] good got the one tower up and running about 2km away from our main camp [08:03] now i need to move a rocket m5 up to the other hill to connect the back gate and the reserve managers house [08:03] nice :) [08:03] then to cover the lalapanzi camp in wifi [08:04] hey Golynx [08:04] Hi theblazehen [08:06] hi Golynx [08:06] hey Kilos [08:22] forgot what i wanted to tell you [08:22] hmm... [08:22] another trick ? [08:23] another? [08:23] what was the last one? [08:24] hey magespawn i saw something new today [08:24] the boot password popup thing [08:24] what about that? [08:24] ive forgotten [08:25] was it for something that wasnt working? [08:26] nope, it was something that broke your side and gave to me just incase it happens to me [08:27] magespawn, got a m/board that i can get starting from the on off button. but after lotsa googling found this model actually has a start/stop and reset button on the m/board [08:28] oh ya Golynx the gdm thing. it came up here after installing and trying to use wine [08:28] Your words were "Sooner or later your gonna enter password when booting and it will keep going back to that popup..." [08:28] haha [08:28] ya installing gdm fixes that [08:28] lol [08:29] are you settling into ubuntu? [08:29] good to know though [08:29] yeah [08:30] Ya the lappy is cool and quiet, that was my main issue [08:30] but love ubunut :) [08:30] ubuntu* [08:30] if you need it and can wait coupla months ill send you an xp cd [08:30] thats good to hear [08:31] There are some things i still wana do in windows. Can i go online with that xp ? [08:34] ya [08:35] good , will cross those bridges when i get there [08:36] just need to catch up first. been saving for pc stuff first and not getting meds [08:37] Your life is more important than pc hardware though [08:38] it wasnt till now. now i got a faster pc so can worry about meds again [08:38] hehe [08:39] ah thats good [08:48] Kilos do you mean a reset button on the board itself? [08:50] hi Golynx [08:52] yeah magespawn weird hey the start stop one too [08:53] never seen that before [08:53] tiny little things though. look like pc board components [08:55] cool beans [08:55] yeah [08:55] now got a core2 quad running [08:55] going offline for a bit brb [08:56] Hi magespawn [08:56] basically a dual with 4 threads [09:00] hehe, I probably have the weirdest configuration here.. [09:00] tell [09:01] Got OS running on a VM, HDD on a virtual disk on a NAS, with me accessing it with a thin client program on my netbook [09:03] lol [09:04] wb hekkwan [09:06] hey all [09:06] wb magespawn [09:06] wb Maaz [09:07] wb magespawn * [09:07] haha [09:07] I need a better IRC client.. [09:08] busy testing one of these http://www.engeniustech.com/business-networking/outdoor-access-points-client-bridges/9339-enh202- [09:10] snazzy [09:12] wb magespawn [09:12] i want to see what the real world conditions are when i connect to is from my tablet [09:12] going out side brb [09:14] I like doing almost everything in one program. Opening just one app to use irc makes no sense to me [09:14] thats your choice [09:15] Golynx, yeah, that's why I just open an xterm :) [09:15] oops.. [09:15] lol [09:16] ah thats good theblazehen :) [09:16] Golynx, what'd you use? [09:18] Opera browser , got irc, email, fb chat, alot of stuff [09:19] Ah, yeah [09:19] used that like 5 years ago [09:19] But its the older 12.04 version . The new versions use webkit engine and dot have some of those features anymore [09:19] But it's not FOSS :( [09:19] oh yeah, the opera blink or whatever [09:20] too much vim.. ^W wont delete a word in IRC client.. :( [09:21] :( [09:21] again.. [09:22] need recommendations: irssi vs weechat? [09:22] Golynx, i think it would be safe to upgrade to the later opera [09:23] used weechat , not bad [09:23] xchat better [09:23] oh my [09:24] not free sucks [09:24] I'm on xchat :( [09:24] i love xchat [09:24] best irc client [09:24] then comes konversation [09:25] Yeah, I slightly prefer quassel, but Qt libs :( [09:25] and it has a GUI [09:26] gui's are lekker for me [09:27] Kilos, yeah, nice for some people [09:27] quassel sound alerts suck [09:27] I use a GUI for my web browser, and IRC client atm [09:27] oh and my terminals [09:27] quassel is good if you use the client and can then connect from fones and other pcs thereby [09:28] Kilos, yeah, why I used to like it [09:30] Not now Kilos, Opera uses the webkit rendering engine now. That uses extra background processes like chrome. Cant be wasting data like that. Maybe in a few months [09:31] aha [09:31] well keep designing, maybe ill want a site sorted sometime [09:33] will do. I'm working on my portfolio site. Gona put lots of demo's there, plus wordpress,joomla templates i made. Maybe you will find something for your site. [09:36] will look when im ready to publish it. too much other stuff now [09:36] Golynx, got a small data cap? [09:38] np Kilos take your time [09:38] theblazehen yes something like that [09:39] Golynx, if you can afford $11/year then I have an idea.. [09:39] Rent a cheap VPS, then set up a compressed SOCKS proxy [09:40] still gonna use data [09:40] 3g eats data [09:40] Kilos, but will be reduced a LOT [09:41] how [09:41] hmm i dunno how that works [09:41] the isp still uses the data [09:41] It's probably system processes using some data, so send it all compressed to remote server , and recieve compressed data [09:41] so up to 50% less data used [09:42] ah [09:42] For things like browsing, IRC, etc [09:42] jnettop may help find out what's using data too [09:42] so everything goes through there first? [09:43] I think opera already does that theblazehen [09:43] Kilos, yeah || Golynx yeah, but only old version [09:43] It goes through there compression server then get sent to the browser and uncompressed [09:44] I am using the old version [09:44] kk [09:44] np thanks anyway :0 [09:44] :) [09:47] Most of the time i work offline anyway. just when i need to upload to a server that i have to use alot of data [09:47] But i zip those then unzip on server [09:48] yeah, btw xz is more efficient [09:48] fscking xchat.. [09:49] I <3 vim... [10:07] Hey all [10:07] haha it works [10:08] I am now about 600m away from my office with trees and buildings in the way [10:08] cool [10:09] 800m [10:09] Now it getting very flaky [10:09] Is [10:10] At about 65 mbps and -86 dbi on signal strength [10:10] how high up do you have that extender thing? [10:11] 2m off the ground [10:11] That is were the clearest line of sight is [10:11] higher will go further [10:12] radio is tricky hey [10:12] interesting though [10:13] Yes for point to point but i am trying to cover as much area in 2.4ghz as possible, so people can connect anywhere in the main lodge area [10:13] then hight is important magespawn [10:14] does that thing use a cable? [10:14] or also wifi in and out [10:14] You see the people are on the ground, [10:14] you only want to cover the lodge area? [10:14] Wifi for people to and then cable to the main network [10:15] As much as possible [10:15] then lift it 2 metres and see [10:15] im sure it will go further [10:17] No then the trees start getting in the way [10:18] 2m and under the tress are trimed up to that height [10:20] aha [10:21] how big is the lodge area anyway [10:21] 600 metres is far [10:22] Not sure going to gps from the main hall to the rooms just now [10:31] This equipment works quite lekker [10:31] Later all [11:15] good day all [11:15] anybody know of any good network monitoring tools? [11:15] looking for one for use with windows as well and hopefully works with ubuntu as well [11:16] I am trying to figure out which software maybe using bandwidth [11:19] hi Kilos [11:19] Hi Kilos :) [11:20] hi Xethron [11:20] hi inetpro [11:20] hi nuvolari [11:20] hi highvoltage [11:20] hi somaunn [11:20] hi All [11:20] hi Squirm [11:20] what's on the desk [11:21] hi somaunn, Xethron [11:21] hi Kilos [11:21] busy trying to sort a switch on prob [11:21] hi Private_User [11:21] hi Private_User [11:22] Kilos: put the case on the desk [11:22] will be pleased to help [11:22] i have it open [11:22] moving wires around and gonna clear cmos [11:22] seems it is a common prob with this board [11:23] made by ? [11:25] ecs [11:25] on the front panel connector must the writing go to the outside? [11:26] i have the manual open online and its a common thing in the troubleshooting section [11:26] especialy on new builds [11:26] Kilos: Just sent the email :) [11:27] cool Xethron [11:27] Private_User, what are you trying to track on the network? [11:27] ill see if its there now now [11:27] Hi all active members o/ [11:27] hi Golynx [11:27] hi Golynx [11:28] yip Xethron got it [11:28] great :D Lets see if it gets a reply [11:28] lets hope ya [11:29] brb [11:29] maybe you should mail the ptalug as well [11:29] but dont ask me the addy [11:29] no jhblug [11:29] hi magespawn, trying to figure out what software is using data cause sometimes I feel like there is more than usual network traffic but I do not have anything more running than I usually do [11:30] os Private_User ? [11:30] i see, might you not be able to track that using task manager [11:30] ? [11:30] for windows vista cause the ubuntu machine is switched off [11:30] ah [11:32] task manager in windows will tell how much each program and process is using of system resources, and you can get general network graph as well [11:32] I used network indicator thing in task manager on windows, to kill of the data hungry run32.dll process [11:32] there is a microsoft network scanner as well [11:33] http://www.microsoft.com/en-za/download/details.aspx?id=4865 [11:34] ok is free the ms network scanner preferable open source [11:34] thanks magespawn let me check it out [11:35] also Nagios and this lot http://www.gfi.com/blog/the-top-20-free-network-monitoring-and-analysis-tools-for-sys-admins/ [11:38] the issue I have is so many processes just state svchost and sometimes to check each one is a very long process and sometimes not very helpful cause it gives me no information and I also I have an issue with memory being used up [11:38] not even sure which application is suddenly eating the memory [11:38] cause I am running the applications I used to run with no issues previously so not sure if something new was suddenly installed [11:39] tried looking but cannot find anything that was nit installed by me [11:39] *not [11:40] sometimes updates can cause problems, but you can try switching off the programs one by one [11:42] You can also look at which processes are using the cpu while the system is at idle [11:44] thanks guys have tried that and found that its just the normal applications that was there when there were no issues like anti-virus etc but many svchost and not sure what each one is [11:45] I am wondering if maybe an update may have cause memory leaks on any of the software, you guys think that could also cause high memory usage? [11:46] I used to get alot of svchost processes , but just left it and went away after a while. Its an imortant windows process i think [11:47] run32.dll process usually caused the most problems, just kept downloading stuff, but its safe to end that process [12:03] nuvolari, ping [12:19] sigh [12:32] why would a motherboard have 2 pcie slots? [12:33] and 2 pcie16x? [12:33] sjoe [12:37] to use two pcie cards? [12:38] for 2 screen magespawn ? [12:38] and whats them pcie16x ones for [12:39] they small slots [12:40] pcie is not just for screens they take other cards [12:40] oh ty [12:40] will investigate them sometime [12:40] need to rest now [12:40] bally time [12:44] cool beans [12:52] hmm... tara came online in mxit and my pc hung [12:52] cant take women anywhere [12:52] sorry ladies [12:53] lol [12:53] Private_User, maybe this will help, not sure though http://is.gd/0vHbEe [13:00] Okay I am off home later all. [13:49] Hi jhb_hacker [13:50] Hi maiatoday [13:52] hiya maiatoday [13:52] wb [13:52] hi Kilos [13:52] dont forget meeting on tuesday at 20.30 hey [13:52] and everyone else [13:53] :) I have it on my calendar [13:53] good girl. we missed you [13:55] Kilos , so its maiatoday that i would've probably got a ubuntu disk from [13:56] thats it Golynx [13:56] ah cool, i like her art [13:56] she used to do all the ordering and importing and customs hassles for us [13:56] then life grabbed hold of her [13:57] wb somaunn [13:57] she also was one of those that helped me when i was more noob than you [13:57] Nice , so it was great having maiatoday around back then [13:57] hey somaunn [13:57] yeah im happy [13:58] Thats good , alot of helpful people here [13:59] yeah [14:03] yeah sorry Golynx, I should have sent that parcel to you [14:04] i sent him one maiatoday [14:04] remastersys version [14:05] unity is a bit heavy for his old lappy but he added xubuntu-desktop [14:05] ok great [14:05] Thanks maiatoday. I got one from Kilos works great :) [14:06] the official disks are only the unity ones [14:06] so you need xubuntu loaded after anyway if that's what you want to run [14:07] hi smile [14:07] :DD === smile is now known as Guest26658 === Guest26658 is now known as smile4 [14:08] Hi Kilos :D === smile4 is now known as smile [14:08] ;) [14:08] Hey smile [14:10] maiatoday is one busy bee lol [14:10] How're you, Golynx ? :) [14:10] yeah she is a tireless worker [14:10] Good and you smile [14:10] :o [14:10] I'm fine too :) [14:10] did lotsa organizing in ct area [14:10] Don't let her work too much, Golynx :p [14:10] lol Kilos tireless ? [14:11] dont get tired [14:11] Sorry that sounded a bit like car tire :) [14:11] i forget spelling sometimes [14:11] lol smile :) [14:12] Ya Kilos she seems great in the organizing area of things [14:12] yeah did major work in spreading ubuntu in za [14:13] hi captine [14:13] Hi Kilos [14:13] she used to work at the labs in stellenbosch if im not mistaken [14:13] hi Kilos [14:13] hi Golynx [14:14] Kilos why not sell ubuntu dvd's aswell ? [14:14] hi smile [14:14] hu captine [14:14] hi captine [14:14] its against the policy to sell ubuntu [14:14] hi Golynx and somaunn [14:14] oh ok [14:14] Maaz, google mark shuttleworth and ubuntu [14:14] Kilos: "Mark Shuttleworth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth :: "Mark Shuttleworth" http://www.markshuttleworth.com/ :: "About Ubuntu | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu :: "Ubuntu and founder Mark Shuttleworth win new awards | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/news/newmedia :: "Mark Shuttleworth interview: [14:14] Taking Ubuntu beyond desktops - PC Pro" http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/interviews/386080/ma… [14:15] I created copyright file today to state the license of my program, WikiList :) http://hugsmile.eu/en/wikilist/ :p [14:15] I'm trying to reduce the warning messages to zero :) [14:15] ubuntu will always be free [14:15] you just supply lotsa data [14:16] but 2g data is much cheaper than win7 [14:17] i go fetch sheep [14:18] Kilos: good night ;) [14:20] modem light flashed green :) [14:20] no its back to solid green [14:21] ai [14:23] night smile sleep tight [14:23] Golynx, install minicom [14:24] then run it and setup modem [14:24] speed 115 something and then save [14:24] Kilos: I thought you were going to sleep [14:24] :) [14:24] seems to make things more stable [14:24] no man fetch sheep [14:24] you know the things that go baaaa [14:24] Its ok Kilos, dont wana tweak my primary weapon :) [14:24] lol smile [14:25] make lekker chops [14:26] Kilos: lol :D I read sleep [14:26] love them beef jerky [14:27] lol [14:28] smile, you need glasses [14:28] i wear 2 pairs at times [14:28] just a bit tired :) [14:29] go sleep then or you make messups [14:29] Not doing something important :) [14:30] And I don't plan to drive :) [14:30] (not today) [14:31] lol [14:36] Can you drive, Kilos ? :p [14:36] yes [14:37] bikes and cars [14:38] * Golynx needs a license - how much ? :P [14:38] hehe [14:38] the legal way is cheaper [14:39] Ya 5Grand is too much [14:39] + jail time when caught [14:45] yesterday I drove on very small roads :p [14:45] for one car [14:45] with two cars :DD [14:45] that was somewhat inconvenient ;) [14:47] oh you guys have roads there? [14:47] i thought you used canoes [14:48] we have (not so very dry) roads :p [14:50] haha [14:56] Where is that Finland [14:58] where the dykes are [15:00] hmm, dyke is slang for lesbian :/ [15:02] Oh Singapore. [15:04] Anyway this is the kinda interface i want http://thefearlesspenguin.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/screenshot-voyager.jpg [15:08] You need Docky, Conky, Adwaita, Xfce and a beautiful wallpaper for that :) [15:08] no man Golynx holland [15:09] Oh ok Kilos [15:09] Ya smile a guy in xubuntu channel told me to use nthe voyager theme [15:10] I like that alot , and so much you can configure :) [15:10]