[00:53] <tc1100> Im relatively new to linux in general and ive never used xubuntu before
[00:54] <tc1100> i have a pretty basic question here
[00:54] <tc1100> my wifi is protected by wpa2-psk[AES] with a 15 character passphrase
[00:55] <tc1100> in the password dialogue in xubuntu for the wifi, the "connect" button becomes unavailable after i type out the whole password, though it becomes available at various points throughout it
[00:55] <tc1100> im assuming that xubuntu believes my password shouldnt be that length, but it works fine with my windows computers
[00:56] <tc1100> so how do i get xubuntu to accept the 15 character password
[00:56] <tc1100> ?
[00:56] <bazhang> sounds like you are mistyping it. check the kb repeat rate
[00:57] <knome> or that networkmanager is expecting a hex value
[03:14] <Azelphur> Hey folks, ethernets not working on my PC, hasn't been for a while. dhclient eth0 works as a workaround, heres my syslog for networkmanager http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wgcBK8Y7 any ideas?
[03:16] <ethermonk> does your ISP support ipv6?
[03:17] <ethermonk> dhcp is enabled in the router? not static address?
[03:17] <Azelphur> ethermonk, everything router side is working. I'm talking to you through my laptop, connected to the router, which is on ethernet.
[03:18] <Azelphur> also, yes my ISP supports ipv6 and that works on the laptop too :)
[03:19] <Azelphur> that's actually why I'm not just continuing to dhclient, I want my IPv6 to work on my PC :)
[03:20] <Azelphur> ethermonk, from that log it seems like network manager is failing to send a DHCP request
[06:42] <ncom0pl> My network and sound applets are gone from the panel after a kernel upgrade, how do I add them back?
[06:49] <TheSheep> ncom0pl: add the indicator applet back to your panel
[06:51] <ncom0pl> ncom0pl: Couldn't find it in the add menu.
[06:51] <ncom0pl> TheSheep: Couldn't find it in the add menu.
[06:52] <ncom0pl> I've installed network-manager-gnome and got network back.
[06:52] <TheSheep> then make sure the xfce4-indicator-plugin is installed
[07:00] <ncom0pl> TheSheep: Okay, it wasn't there. I installed it, but now when I add it, it kinda adds a thin, empty applet to the panel.
[07:02] <TheSheep> I don't use it myself, but I think that the idea is that it displays only the icons that are not already displayed by other means
[07:03] <TheSheep> personally I prefer to use the xfce4-mixer for the speaker icon
[07:04] <TheSheep> by the way, how could a kernel upgrade have uninstalled the indicator plugin?
[07:05] <TheSheep> maybe you also uninstalled some other important things :9
[07:05] <TheSheep> :(
[07:06] <Unit193> I am using volumeicon right now as pulse gives such a fit right now on a computer.
[07:06] <ncom0pl> TheSheep: I have no idea how that could happen, weird to me too.
[09:54] <ethermonk> just installed unity-greeter and cinnamon.  reboot and not seeing any way to choose sessions in Unity greeter login. how to loginto Cinnamon without making it my default?
[09:55] <Sysi> ethermonk: there should be a logo of the default session on top of the passwd box, click it
[09:56] <ethermonk> i see a round circle that is grey, click and nothing happens
[09:58] <ncom0pl> ethermonk: Maybe try lightdm if you're ok with that.
[09:58] <Sysi> unity-greeter is a theme (engine) for lightdm
[09:58] <ethermonk> blah.  nah i wanted to pair it with unity-greeter
[09:58] <ethermonk> oh
[09:59] <ncom0pl> Sorry I wanted to say MDM :).
[09:59] <ethermonk> well lighdm is what xubu uses by default, im just looking to have a pretty login screen like ubuntu
[09:59] <ethermonk> oh
[10:00] <ethermonk> just going for eye candy  :P
[10:02] <Sysi> ethermonk: you should probably ask from cinnamon or mainbuntu gyus, because xubuntu has neither parts of your problem setup
[10:03] <ethermonk> got no response in #ubuntu. ill ask again later
[10:04] <Sysi> yeah, stick around here too in case somebody uses it and responds later
[10:51] <xubuntu140> buongiorno qualcuno sa spiegarmi come far funzionare playonlinux
[10:53] <knome> !it | xubuntu140
[10:54] <xubuntu140> ok
[12:51] <xubuntu555> Hi there...
[12:51] <xubuntu555> Any help from any Voyager 13.10 expert?
[12:52] <Myrtti> well, since this is a Xubuntu IRC channel...
[12:52] <Myrtti> have you tried their channels?
[12:53] <xubuntu555> Get that, but Voyager 13.10 has xubuntu as the whole base...
[12:53] <xubuntu555> They have inside their own links this channel for support...
[12:54] <brainwash> your issue might be voyager specific, so tell us your problem and lets pretend you are using xubuntu
[12:57] <Sysi> I've seen several vouager users here with problems that don't exist on xubuntu, but you can try
[12:59] <xubuntu555> Thanks... The only problem I got is that I am able to work with a dual monitor... When I tried my system is broken... Can't not use it only as the recovery mode. Like I am using it now (with recovery mode)
[12:59] <xubuntu555> Sorry... " ... I am not able to work with dual monitor......"
[13:00] <koegs> and what did you try?
[13:00] <xubuntu555> And I do need to work with dual monitor...
[13:01] <xubuntu555> To work through the system settings...
[13:01] <Sysi> and how is it broken?
[13:02] <xubuntu555> Also tried ARandR but also is not possible....
[13:02] <xubuntu555> The thing is that this only has happened to me with this distro...
[13:03] <xubuntu555> It goes to blank.....
[13:03] <xubuntu555> And I can do nothing....
[13:03] <koegs> xubuntu555: what exactly did you do and what happened?
[13:03] <Sysi> (what I said about voyager)
[13:04] <xubuntu555> The only thing I did was to connect my dual monitor... then tried to configure it and it goes blank.... it was totally blank and nothing I was able to do...
[13:06] <xubuntu555> then I reinstall it all and tried to work with dual monitor through ARandR... but also it was broken too... The same error... It goes blank... Nothing was able to do... Only was able to get into the system through the recovery mode again.
[13:12] <xubuntuser> hello, someone can try this ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1272869
[13:14] <xubuntu555> koegs, Sysi? still around?
[13:15] <brainwash> xubuntu555: is this your report? sadly I don't quite understand the problem
[13:16] <brainwash> meh
[13:16] <brainwash> xubuntuser: ^
[13:16] <xubuntuser> Perhaps I fail to explain it well. The menu option for exchange user stops of work if you made some log out
[13:17] <xubuntu555> brainwash, thanks... Yep.... Tried to use dual monitor (on Voyager 13.10, it is built completely with xubuntu 13.10) and it broken my system.
[13:17] <xubuntuser> brainwash ^
[13:18] <xubuntu555> brainwash, can only get it back, shutting it down and then only through the recovery mode and nothing more.
[13:19] <brainwash> xubuntu555: usually you can check the system log files and look for error messages
[13:19] <xubuntuser> I log out for test again
[13:19] <xubuntuser> and the bug appears
[13:20] <brainwash> xubuntuser: ok, but xubuntu-default-settings is not the correct package to file the report against
[13:20] <xubuntuser> xfce-panel perhaps?
[13:20] <brainwash> more likely
[13:21] <Sysi> I normally recommend people to install xubuntu and set it up with voyager themes if they want
[13:21] <brainwash> does "dm-tool switch-to-greeter" redirect you to the login greeter screen?
[13:21] <brainwash> open a terminal window and run this command please
[13:22] <xubuntuser> brainwash its to me ? for me not do nothing
[13:22] <brainwash> no error message?
[13:22] <xubuntuser> no, in any way
[13:23] <brainwash> and is this a clean xubuntu 13.10 installation? or an upgrade from 13.04?
[13:23] <brainwash> oh, it's an upgrade according to the bug report
[13:23] <xubuntuser> its an upgrade from 13.04, yes, but I remember happen on a clean install also ,from 13.10
[13:24] <xubuntuser> nobody use xubuntu here? in reality is easy bug to test
[13:25] <xubuntuser> but always, from every install i made ( i had xubuntu on several pcs, hds, usb sticks, etc) happen the same on every of them
[13:25] <brainwash> login, logout and then try to switch the user via the panel menu?
[13:26] <brainwash> oh, missed a login after the logut :)
[13:26] <xubuntuser> its like follows : log out , log in, then try to switch user
[13:27] <xubuntuser> if you found the same problem, there is another fact about :
[13:27] <brainwash> most likely it's something caused by lightdm and/or logind
[13:27] <brainwash> and not directly by Xfce
[13:28] <xubuntuser> i think the same
[13:28] <xubuntuser> now try this :
[13:28] <xubuntuser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1272902
[13:28] <xubuntuser> is related, of course
[13:29] <brainwash> yes, it is
[13:30] <xubuntuser> lubuntu uses the same login than xubuntu ?
[13:30] <xubuntuser> I remember this bug also using lubuntu and installing the xubuntu desktop later
[13:30] <xubuntuser> but the login screen was from lubuntu
[13:31] <brainwash> it does, lightdm + logind for seat/session management
[13:31] <brainwash> some log files might be helpful here
[13:32] <xubuntuser> omg so fun about that ... yesterday my /var/log/kernel goes gigasize yesterday
[13:33] <xubuntuser> but that is another thing, i will search thats logs, thanks you
[13:33] <brainwash> try ~/.cache/upstart
[13:33] <brainwash> and /var/log/lightdm
[13:35] <xubuntu555> Ooopssss.... I am totally lost about your conversation (brainwash and xubuntuser)....
[13:36] <xubuntu555> Sysi, thanks for the advise... about installing xubuntu and then trying Voyager Themes.
[13:36] <xubuntuser> brb
[13:37] <brainwash> xubuntu555: by changing the screen setup via arandr you are not able to get to the login screen anymore?
[13:39] <xubuntu555> Yep... also not able... it also goes blank too... and can do nothing at all, just shutting it down and then login only by the recovery mode.
[14:14] <xubuntu555> Seems you are too busy. Thanks brainwash. Have to leave for domestic stuff.
[17:14] <starrats> What is the best way to partition a hard drive that has windows 7 and I want to incorporate xubuntu 13-10 on to the HD, I have tried numersous times and just would like a simple answer to my predicament.  Thank you in adavance.  Oh by the way I have been using the win7 partitioning app.he
[17:14] <starrats> just app at the end no .he
[17:21] <elfy> starrats: really depends on what the drive is set up like already, but if you want to use the win disk tool to shrink it - then when you boot the live dvd/usb - use something else in the partitioner and set / and swap up in there in the unallocated space
[17:21] <elfy> the win tool won't format it in any useful way
[17:22] <starrats> ah okay elfy will be working on that
[18:59] <z4nD4R> Hi all, any tip to tune XFCE?
[19:00] <Myrtti> "don't add too many apps to autostart"
[19:01] <z4nD4R> I don't have problem with apps in autostart.. I thought something .. different.. coupled with look :)
[19:14] <blocky> is the xubuntu iso just regular ubuntu with xfce packages included and xfce set as default wm?
[19:14] <koegs> blocky: basically yes
[19:14] <Myrtti> blocky: and without Unity and Ubuntu Desktop default apps that aren't the same as Xubuntus, yes
[19:15] <blocky> Myrtti: those apps are not set as default or not included at all?
[19:15] <Myrtti> not included
[19:15] <blocky> ah ok
[19:15] <Myrtti> ie. firefox is included in both
[19:15] <Myrtti> if I'm not mistaken
[19:15] <blocky> i am thinking of installing the 14.04 alpha for fun
[19:15] <Myrtti> LibreOffice or Abiword is not
[19:16] <Myrtti> (ie Libre is in Ubuntu, Abi is in Xubuntu) again if I'm not mistaken
[19:17] <blocky> if i install the xubuntu alpha 1 can I just do apt-get update to make it essentially alpha 2?
[19:17] <Myrtti> yup
[19:21] <z4nD4R> does XFCE has some roadmap?
[19:23] <brainwash> z4nD4R: http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.12/roadmap (slightly outdated)
[19:24] <brainwash> and here is Xubuntu's roadmap for 14.04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap
[19:25] <z4nD4R> brainwash: I suppose the xubu roadmap ist the same like ubu roadmap.. I was wondering about news in 4.12 :)
[19:26] <brainwash> the xubuntu roadmap is xubuntu specific
[19:26] <brainwash> sadly no new information regarding Xfce 4.12
[19:27] <z4nD4R> brainwash: but basicaly is the same like.. Ubu.. 14.04 will be LTS to, won't be? .. .. that's realy sad.
[19:28] <brainwash> did you actually take a look at the roadmap?
[19:28] <z4nD4R> brainwash: no .. didn't .. w8
[19:43] <z4nD4R> brainwash: I've done it already..the page links on Ubu roadmap.. however.. My qusetion is more coupled to XFCE, tune XFCE .. etc..
[19:44] <brainwash> z4nD4R: well, this is the #xubuntu channel, try asking in #xfce then
[19:46] <z4nD4R> brainwash: yes yes I know, but maybe you have some tip&tricks :) ie. some nice looking conky .. or..
[19:49] <Sysi> whatever you think looks nice and suits your needs
[19:49] <brainwash> this is a support channel, talking about non related topics like customizations should be done in #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:50] <z4nD4R> Sysi: such a nice diplomatic answer.. :P
[19:50] <z4nD4R> brainwash: o sry .. I hope I didn't make such a OT
[19:50] <brainwash> don't worry :)
[20:25] <r0b-> anyone running Xubuntu 13.10 with a newer ATI Graphics card?
[20:25] <r0b-> like HD5xxx or newer.
[20:27]  * r0b- cant seem to get the Proprietary driver to work properly.
[20:40] <r0b-> it has to do with me running an Xorg version newer than 1.13
[20:50] <TheSheep> r0b-: well, report a bug to ATI, I guess
[20:50] <TheSheep> r0b-: be sure to ask them to finally open up their drivers too
[20:50] <r0b-> sigh that probably wont work.
[20:51] <TheSheep> alternatively, don't buy from producers who don't provide open source drivers, maybe that message will be cleaner
[20:52] <r0b-> well i found this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Saucy_Installation_Guide
[20:53] <rww> TheSheep: never heard of the 'radeon' driver :P?
[20:55] <r0b-> Or i will go back to Xubuntu 12.04.
[20:58] <r0b-> but i think xubuntu 12.04.3 is the same problem
[23:13] <aphtk> Hi...new Ubuntu user here!
[23:14] <aphtk> would like to backup personal DVDs using acid rip ... but having region problems
[23:14] <aphtk> used to be libdvdcss was available
[23:14] <aphtk> is it still here?
[23:16] <aphtk> any help here ppl?