[07:50] <lars_> test
[07:52] <lars_> testing kubuntu chat room
[07:53] <valorie> hi lars_
[07:53] <valorie> not exactly a "chat room" but close
[07:54] <valorie> irc has channels, and this one is for Kubuntu support
[07:54] <valorie> welcome
[07:58] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:06] <astro> I'm having a hellacious time with my wireless router
[08:06] <astro> I can't seem to get my wireless working
[08:06] <astro> Can someone help me ?
[08:07] <valorie> astro: can you tell us about your system, what trouble you are having, and what you have already tried?
[08:07] <valorie> !wireless
[08:09] <astro> I'm a little confused , I think I identified I need the b43
[08:12] <lordievader> astro: Have you followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[10:29] <jarkko_> i have kubuntu, is it safe to install xfce on it?
[10:35] <tsimpson> jarkko_: sure
[10:44] <jarkko_> where does xfce install itself?
[10:50] <jarkko_> i seem to get some programs that i dont need
[10:52] <jarkko_> http://pastebin.com/zN2VuEMM
[11:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:37] <gsedej_work> Does anyone know why "Alt+1" does not work in browsers, while "Alt+2", "Alt+3", ... works? Does work for anyone?
[13:27] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> Morning just started for me.
[13:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> o/
[13:29] <lordievader> Poisoned_Dragon: The nice (or not so nice) thing about time zones, eh.
[13:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh, tell me about it.
[14:12] <cillo551> is it safe to use kubuntu trusty tahr as everyday computer use
[14:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> System:    Host ROL-PD-D505 Kernel 3.2.0-58-generic-pae i686 (32 bit)
[14:14] <Poisoned_Dragon>            Desktop KDE 4.12.1 Distro Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[14:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> cillo551, does that answer your question?
[14:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just be prepared to file a bug report, now and then.
[14:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> It is in alpha.
[14:15] <cillo551> Poisoned_Dragon:  have your system crashed or have it been stable
[14:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> The only issues I have, on this laptop, is that I can't use a kernel higher than 3.5. So, I just use the kernel from precise.
[14:18] <shadeslayer> cillo551: nope
[14:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> Otherwise, it's stable
[14:20] <cillo551> ok, thanks for the info
[14:31] <lordievader> It is never recommended to run a development release. Especially not on production machines.
[14:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> True. But, we're adventurers that way.
[14:32] <lordievader> Poisoned_Dragon: Jup, same here ;)
[14:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> Plus, given the quirkiness of this laptop, I'm willing to do crazy things on it.
[14:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Like running an older kernel on a newer release.
[15:00] <Walex> gsedej_work: it may be that it is bound to something else...
[15:00] <Walex> gsedej_work: try 'kcmshell5 khotkeys' and 'kcmshell4 keys'
[15:01] <Walex> Poisoned_Dragon: it is not so much "adventurers", but able to investigate issues and willing to report them.
[15:01] <Walex> gsedej_work: try 'kcmshell4 khotkeys' and 'kcmshell4 keys'
[15:01] <Walex> Poisoned_Dragon: it is *very* unusual that newer kernel release does not work and an older one does.
[15:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> Walex, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1254131
[15:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's marked as an issue with the xorg driver. But, I believe it to be a kernel regression. However, given how old the chipset is, I don't see it being resolved in the future.
[15:04] <Walex> Poisoned_Dragon: just a typical bug.
[15:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's been a bug since kernel 3.7
[15:05] <Walex> Poisoned_Dragon: they come and go as workarounds for firmware bugs are added/changed/remove from the relevant kernel module or scripts.
[15:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> Which would be raring ringtail.
[15:05] <Walex> Poisoned_Dragon: the obvious solution is to disable the lid-close button...
[15:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> I've tried that. It doesn't work.
[15:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> I've set the DE to ignore it. I've set the system to ignore it. The result is the same. The switch causes the system to freeze.
[15:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just easier to use the precise kernel.
[15:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> I would use the quantal kernel but, support for security fixes ends this year.
[15:24] <teo_icKs> Hi at all, I need help about oxigen-gtk theme engine: I'm using kubuntu 13.10 and in my system give me the following error: Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "oxygen-gtk"
[15:24] <teo_icKs> Hi at all, I need help about oxigen-gtk theme engine: I'm using kubuntu 13.10 and my system give me the following error: Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "oxygen-gtk"
[15:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> ok, ok... please no question flooding.
[15:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> patience is a virtue.
[15:26] <teo_icKs> I'm sorry.... I have a problem in my keyboard...
[15:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> is this a fresh install, teo_icKs?
[15:27] <teo_icKs> yes
[15:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> Shouldn't kick out that warning right out of the box.
[15:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> How is the hard drive?
[15:31] <teo_icKs> I don't understand your question...
[15:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, if it were me, a fresh install kicking out an error like that would cause be to wonder about the condition of the hard drive.
[15:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> If the Hard drive is fine, maybe the install was mucked up by a bad DVD.
[15:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Did you install with a DVD or a USB stick?
[15:35] <teo_icKs> My hard drive works as well, I'm sure... but I can't exclude a DVD bad installation... is there a way to reinstall only this bad module?
[15:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hmm... I suppose there is. But, I've never had to do it. Also, this may not be the only error on the system. It just might be the only critical one you've found.
[15:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> A clean install would be best, instead of hunting down packages to help chase down individual errors.
[15:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you can't trust the dvd drive, consider putting the iso on a usb stick and installing it from there.
[15:42] <teo_icKs> ok, thanx... bad news but if I have to reinstall all system, better make it soon is possible :-) , thank you again, bye
[15:43] <RahulAN> raghav990: hiii
[15:44] <RahulAN> raghav990: Are you getting me?
[15:44] <raghav990> yep
[15:44] <RahulAN> raghav990: so you got it
[15:45] <RahulAN> ?
[15:49] <raghav990> REGISTER
[16:05] <jbwiv> guys, with 13.10, if I change an interface ip through "Network Management settings" it doesn't seem to apply. Then, what used to work "$ sudo service networking restart" seems to kill a number of network related things (firefox) and then says NetworkManager is no longer running. What's the appropriate way to apply a new IP?
[17:10] <bogfrog_> Hello
[17:12] <bogfrog_> I am having a problem with plasma on my desktop.  Plasma crashes everytime I start the package manager for plasma widgets in the panel menu.  Can anyone help?
[17:23] <bruno> test
[17:50] <bogfrog_> test recieved bruno
[17:51] <bogfrog_> to repeat my earlier question does anyone know why plasma would crash handling my request for new wdgets>
[18:08] <jussi> hrm, what is an alternative for kubuntu for the "totem-mediaviewer" plugin for firefox/chrome?
[19:02] <cpd> ...
[19:04] <BluesKaj> how to enable F keys without needing the Fn to make some of them work like launching yakuake with F12?
[19:06] <dbrom> hello have a question about my wireles card.  The card is working but only able to see 802.11 nothing else
[19:11] <Daniel2> ...
[19:12] <Daniel2> join #Fateci
[19:12] <dbrom> cant connect to any networks with my wireles card. I set it up and it still doesnt connect
[19:13] <BluesKaj> dbrom, which wifi card/chip ?
[19:13] <dbrom> intel
[19:13] <genii> BluesKaj: I just set one up here that seems to work for starting Konsole. I used System Settings...Shortcuts and Gestures... Custom Shortcuts
[19:15] <dbrom> when i do a iwconfig it says No wireless extensions
[19:16] <BluesKaj> dbrom, lspci -k|grep -A2 Network
[19:17] <dbrom> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 (rev 67)
[19:17] <dbrom>         Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 BGN
[19:17] <dbrom>         Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
[19:19] <BluesKaj> dbrom, Bring Up the Interface: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up, then, Find WiFi Networks : sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[19:21] <BluesKaj> Cnada Post in the driveway, bbiab
[19:21] <dbrom> after sudo ifconfig wlan0 up i get SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[19:28] <dbrom> ill be right back...
[19:30] <dbrom> anyone know what im missing
[19:32] <dbrom> i get SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[19:32] <lordievader> dbrom: Then you have either a hardware switch killing the wifi or a software switch. You can check with "sudo rfkill list"
[19:33] <dbrom> 0: ideapad_wlan: Wireless LAN
[19:33] <dbrom>         Soft blocked: no
[19:33] <dbrom>         Hard blocked: no
[19:33] <dbrom> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[19:33] <dbrom>         Soft blocked: no
[19:33] <dbrom>         Hard blocked: yes
[19:33] <FloodBotK1> dbrom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <dbrom> ok
[19:34] <Jacky> dbrom: please use a pasting service next time :/
[19:34] <Jacky> it's in the /topic
[19:34] <lordievader> !paste | dbrom
[19:35] <lordievader> dbrom: Your wifi is hardblock.
[19:35] <lordievader> blocked*
[19:35] <dbrom> how do i turn on the Hard blocked: yes to No
[19:37] <lordievader> dbrom: Find the physical switch and flip it ;)
[19:38] <dbrom> i did that it switch the Hard block to no from yes  but the phy0:wireless Lan Hard block is set to yes no
[19:39] <dbrom> now
[19:39] <dbrom> need it to be no correct
[19:39] <lordievader> dbrom: Try: sudo rfkill unblock all
[19:40] <dbrom> same results
[19:41] <dbrom> bbiab
[19:46] <dbrom> back
[19:50] <dbrom> rfkill unblock all opens everything but the har block on phy0
[19:51] <genii> dbrom: Most likely this is on some laptop which has a key combo or dedicated extra key which physically turns the wifi on/off.
[19:51] <dbrom> fn+F5
[19:52] <dbrom> all that does is bring up the wireless network panel
[20:00] <RodNICE> Need help :-(
[20:01] <lordievader> !ask
[20:02] <RodNICE> Wasn't sure I was connected. just reinstalled everything
[20:02] <dbrom> if the switch is turned on what do i do next
[20:02] <RodNICE> Anyhow... trying to get my bottom left corner icon app launcher back
[20:03] <RodNICE> I remember you all helped me last time and it was a simple thing but I'm not sure what it's called and how to get my icon app launcher back :-(
[20:05] <BluesKaj> RodNICE, quicklaunch widget
[20:05] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:10] <RodNICE> BluesKaj: thanx!!!
[20:10] <dbrom> anyone know how to turn off the phy0: Hard block
[20:12] <lordievader> dbrom: Do you have a dual boot with windows?
[20:12] <dbrom> no, i ont, dont like Windows at all
[20:13] <lordievader> dbrom: I ask because my laptop has the strange behaviour that if I disable the wifi in Windows I cannot enable it again in Linux.
[20:14] <dbrom> thats f***ed
[20:20] <RodNICE> Question: What would I need to do to get Firefox to handle (magnet) links? I have Ktorrent installed on Kubuntu
[20:24] <bprompt> RodNICE:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=magnet+links&appver=&platform=
[20:26] <RodNICE> Hm... seems to lead to nothing
[20:29] <bprompt> RodNICE:   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ez-magnetz/?src=search   or maybe https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/magrent/  I"d think ?
[20:30] <RodNICE> OK
[20:30] <RodNICE> oh and I forgot how to have my responses highlighted to a user in IRC
[20:36] <RodNICE> Does the latest version of Kubuntu come with java or some equivalent for Firefox?
[20:37] <bprompt> RodNICE:    ahemm... I'm using 12.04.... and you can always intall java anyway
[20:37] <altin> всем привет
[20:37] <RodNICE> OK
[20:39] <bprompt> `ru @ altin
[20:43] <genii> !ru | altin
[22:20] <Jacky> So like with Trusty Alpha 2, I could do a dist-upgrade?
[22:20] <Jacky> I never did remember this
[22:21] <lordievader> Jacky: It is not recommended to upgrade to development releases.
[22:21] <Jacky> D:
[22:21] <Jacky> but I am what they call a badass
[22:21] <Jacky> I'll spin it up in a VM then
[22:21] <lordievader> Jacky: Ofcourse this all changes when you want to become a tester ;)
[22:22] <Jacky> I'll see how funky it is
[22:22] <Jacky> then I'll switch over
[22:23] <bprompt> a tester [22:23] <Jacky> downgrading is tricky but it's mostly a sed in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:23] <Jacky> bprompt: you cracked the code lol
[22:24] <bprompt> ahemm..
[22:24] <bprompt> so you just want to test Trusty alpha release?
[22:24] <lordievader> Hmm, that means I'm a badass... Didn't think I would be one.
[22:24] <Jacky> test/use
[22:25] <Jacky> If things break; I'd wiggle my way around it
[22:25] <Jacky> I tend to
[22:25] <lordievader> Jacky: If you are interested read: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters
[22:26] <bprompt> "use" is a general term, "test" is a more specific type of use, I don't think they're quite interchangable at face value
[22:26] <lordievader> Anyhow time for bed, see you all tomorrow.
[22:26] <Jacky> bprompt: they aren't
[22:26] <Jacky> I'd initially just test apps I use every day, KDE and non-KDE ones
[22:26] <Jacky> any issues I try to see if there's a simple fix, otherwise I report
[22:26] <Jacky> if it's not too bothersome of an experience, I stick with it
[22:27] <bprompt> well... don't we all do the same?
[22:27] <Jacky> Not every user's a tester! ;)
[22:29] <bprompt> ahemm
[22:29] <bprompt> I mean, anyone downloading an app and using it, sticks with it if it works for what they want, and it's not too bothersome
[22:30]  * bprompt is not testing his underwear, he's actually "using" it, it tested good, so I stuck with it