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Kilosmorning you minority04:51
Kiloswbb04:53
mazalMorning everyone06:02
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:15
Squirmmorning06:19
Kiloshi Squirm 06:19
superflymorning folks06:34
ThatGraemeGuymornings :)06:46
inetprogood morning07:06
Kilosmorning superfly inetpro bduk1 07:07
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:07
KilosVince-0, can you get a message to una, i dont know if she is on our mailing list here07:08
Kilosthere is a job going but in jhb07:11
bduk1More more everyone07:11
Kiloshi Xethron 07:16
Vince-0Sup!07:20
Vince-0Kilos, I'll do so07:21
Kilosty07:21
Vince-0done07:21
SmilyBorgMorning folks07:23
Vince-0sup!07:24
Kilosohi SmilyBorg 07:28
Kilosare you on our mailing list girl?07:29
Kiloshi Golynx 07:29
GolynxMorning Kilos07:29
GolynxHi SmileyBorg07:29
GolynxKilos does your icons freeze up sometimes in quicklaunch07:32
Kiloswhats quicklaunch07:32
Golynxthe dash quicklaunch 07:33
Golynxwhen i used python for a while the python icons became none tickable07:34
SmilyBorgKilos: Not sure. Are the details on the website?07:35
Kilosthe man is here07:35
Kilosoh wait ill give07:35
KilosSmilyBorg,  http://bit.ly/MCOujZ 07:36
Kilosgive your cv link here then he can look when time allows07:37
Golynxwhat man is here? :/07:38
KilosXethron, 07:38
Golynxoh07:38
XethronKilos07:38
KilosXethron, here is SmilyBorg 07:38
Kilosshe is looking for work07:39
Xethronoh, yes, you told me about her07:39
GolynxHey Xethron07:40
Xethronheya Golynx07:42
XethronL(07:42
Xethron:)07:42
SmilyBorgThanks Kilos07:43
Kilosyyw SmilyBorg 07:43
GolynxAnother success story :)07:46
Kilosi hope so07:46
Kilosshe is very clever. cv longer than my leg07:46
Golynxthats great! the more skilled the better the results 07:48
Kilosi just dont remember if i see web dev on it07:48
Kilosand didnt save the link07:48
GolynxI'm sure she'll do great07:50
Kilossee Golynx this is how your setup should have worked07:50
Kilosi have a drive with xp on07:51
Kilosjust squeezed xd smaller and installed 12.04 alongside07:51
Kiloss/xd/xp07:51
GolynxI got a extra drive aswell, but a few pins broken on it 07:52
Golynxi see07:52
Golynxso what is that partition unlock trick07:52
Kilossometimes you can buy that control board07:53
Kilosoh you have to go in as admin07:53
Kilosnot as the user07:53
Golynxsudo ?07:53
Kilosi dunno how but ian did it here for me07:53
Kilosno man win7 admin07:54
Golynxoh ok07:54
Kilosthen unlock everything07:54
Kilosthen install linux alongside07:54
Golynxi guess that partition is unlocked now, since i erased the whole disk07:55
SmilyBorgKilos: CV link https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7095021/CV/UAK%20CV%202013-12-06.pdf07:55
Kiloslol07:55
Golynx:p07:55
KilosXethron, cv link above ^^07:55
Golynxso now install windows alongside ubuntu with no issues07:56
KilosGolynx, im sorry it happened that way but ian only came here after you had installed07:56
Kilosno07:56
Kilosalways win first07:56
Kilosotherwise windows messes up the boot07:57
Kilosgrub07:57
Golynxah so new drive then07:57
Kilosit can be fixed with boot-repair from the live cd07:58
Kilosand must be online07:58
GolynxIts ok , aslong as i can use all the tools i did on windows in linux aswell , i'm cool beans!07:58
Kilosif you are very good with a soldering iron you can sometimes replace broken pins on drives07:59
Kilosjust to find the right pins to replace them with08:00
Kiloscopper wire wont last long i think08:00
Kilosmind you it could if you dont unplug the drive daily08:01
GolynxI had a soldering iron back in Paarl, but gave it away.08:02
Golynxactually a filing cabinet fell on the drive when i was trying to fix my old desktop pc08:03
Kiloswhat size drive is it08:03
Golynx640GB08:03
Kilosworth trying to save then08:04
Kilosmake?08:04
Golynxi guess08:04
Kilosseagate08:04
Golynxseagate08:04
Kilosor send it here dont throw in trash08:04
Golynxif i cant fix it you can have it :)08:05
Kiloscool08:05
Kilosill pay the postage08:07
Kilosin coupla months time08:07
Golynxi will cross those bridges when i get there08:08
Kilosso try fix it before then but dont mess up too much08:08
Golynxhaha, luckily i know alot about electronics 08:08
Kiloslappy connections are ver tiny and close together, hard to work on08:10
Kiloseven desktop drives is difficult if they sata08:11
Golynxits scsi i think not sure08:11
Kilosyou need good eyes steady hand and very thin point soldering iron like weller makes08:11
GolynxYa when i used to solder the pins of cmos chips, the bubbles from the flux was the major problem08:13
Golynxgot a steady hand though08:14
Kilosflux you clean off after with alcohol if i remember right08:16
Kilosdid that kinda work 40 years ago08:18
Golynxlol ya i was a kid aswell when i did that, building cb radios and stuff 08:20
Kilosi was 2508:20
Kiloshehe08:20
Kilos2308:21
Kiloshi charl 08:22
Golynxalways been interested in artificial intelligence, made a robot that picked up my jellytots when i threw it next to it lol08:22
Golynxhey charl08:22
Kiloslol08:22
Golynxthat was with infrared sensors, today people use miniature cameras and specific robotics software to achieve the same resuly08:24
Golynxresult*08:24
charlhi Golynx 08:41
charlhi Kilos 08:41
charlMaaz: coffee on08:41
* Maaz washes some mugs08:41
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!08:45
charlMaaz: thanks08:45
Maazcharl: Sure08:45
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Kiloshiya drussell 11:39
Kiloshi psyatw 11:39
psyatwhi Kilos11:40
psyatwhi drussell11:40
drussellKilos / psyatw : hey all!11:44
magespawngood day11:49
psyatwhello magespawn11:50
Kiloshi magespawn 11:50
Hyperthreadoh13:52
inetproHyperthread: hi14:27
inetproKilos: I suddenly hear rain falling on the roof14:27
* inetpro loves the sound of rain14:28
Kilosinetpro, it dripped here for a bit while i was sewing some grass seed then i gave up and came inside and now its sun shine again14:28
Kilosand the birds are eating what i sewed14:30
Kilossigh14:30
magespawnhey Kilos 14:30
inetproai!14:30
magespawnhi inetpro Hyperthread 14:30
nlsthznHello cloudy and slightly wet South Africa14:57
Hyperthreadno thats the PTA weather report14:57
Hyperthreaddont generalise :D14:57
nlsthzn:)14:58
SilverCodeyeah, it is hot as hell here in the western cape14:58
SilverCodewould love some cold wet weather right about now actually14:58
Hyperthreadya you and me both14:58
Kiloshiya nlsthzn SilverCode Hyperthread magespawn 14:59
Kiloshi oupateddie 14:59
Hyperthreadgreeting kilos asl ?14:59
SilverCodeHi Kilos 14:59
Hyperthreadgreetings kilos asl ?14:59
Kiloswhats broken14:59
Hyperthread:D14:59
oupateddiehi Kilos14:59
Hyperthreadjust kidding ;)14:59
SilverCodeI wonder if people still ask asl on IRC14:59
SilverCodeI would assume nowadays IRC has been watered down to a generic pool of middle aged men15:00
Hyperthreadonly ask asl to anoy sombody :D15:00
SilverCodeand by midle aged, between 25 - 6515:00
nlsthznhi uncle Kilos15:01
Kiloseek i fit there15:01
oupateddieguys what can I do to download You-tube which are on google videos?15:01
Kilosty nlsthzn mobo runs kiff15:01
nlsthznasking asl is seen as rude as it was mostly used for peeps to chat to girls :p15:02
Kilosthere is a youtube ripper15:02
nlsthznKilos: awesome... 15:02
nlsthznas long as it isn't running to hot :)15:02
Kilosjust the start button dont work15:02
Kilosbut first time i see a start button on the mobo15:03
nlsthznthat is weird15:03
oupateddieI've been using downloadhelper but suddenly some of the videos do not download.15:03
nlsthznI forgot to add any cables :/15:03
Kilosoupateddie, one of the guys will help you there15:03
Kilosnp nlsthzn i have lots15:03
oupateddieThe you tubes housed by googlevideos15:03
nlsthznif the video is blocked in your country downloadhelper cant cache it to download it :/15:03
Kilosty so much nlsthzn 15:03
oupateddieOK but what can I use to get it, or is there no way?15:04
nlsthznit is older CPU but still pretty powerful15:04
* nlsthzn isn't sure except if that is the problem then you need something like TOR etc... but that is a pita just to download videos which is against the terms of service in any case15:05
Kilosits not older compared to what i had nlsthzn 15:05
nlsthznand you can add more memory too15:06
oupateddienlsthzn I tried a number of download helpers in Thunderbird as well as Chrome but none seems to work on these specific videos. They all create the file but then crash and reply with "failed to convert"15:07
nlsthznsorry oupateddie I am not sure...15:07
oupateddieOK15:08
Kilosyeah i see it can take 16g nlsthzn 15:10
nlsthzn4gb is a nice start, expecially for linux...15:11
nlsthznimo 8gb is the sweet spot then again more is always better :p15:11
Kilosyeah15:12
Kiloslol15:12
* nlsthzn will be back in a day or two15:19
charlthe meeting is tomorrow night?15:25
charlok i'll try to be here tomorrow15:25
charlhave a good evening all !15:26
theblazehenhi all15:35
Kiloshi theblazehen 15:36
theblazehenhey Kilos 15:36
theblazehenKilos, whats new?15:37
Kilosnothing yet15:37
Kiloseverything older than yesterday15:37
magespawnlater all home time15:39
theblazehencya magespawn 15:40
Kiloshi Private_User 16:03
Private_Userhi Kilos 16:04
theblazehenhi Private_User 16:04
Private_Userhi theblazehen 16:05
Private_Userany reason why my machine would have issues booting up when the network cable is plugged in?16:56
Private_Userit gave many stack errors and other stuff I do not remember now and then would suddenly just switch off16:58
Kiloswhew16:59
Private_Usernever got it to the login screen how ever did get it to recovery mode once and performed chkdsk and seemed to be fine however could not get it to boot again into recovery mode or to the login screen17:00
Kiloswhat os?17:00
Kilosi go eat17:00
Private_Userthen all I did was remove the network cable and it booted in fine17:00
Private_Userlubuntu17:00
Private_UserI now have the cable plugged in and it even connected to the internet17:00
theblazehenPrivate_User, no PXE server on network?17:01
Private_Userits just my Laptop which is a Windows Vista machine and my Desktop (lubuntu machine) connected to each other using a direct cable connection17:03
Private_UserI am sharing the internet on my laptop with the desktop17:04
theblazehenhmm.. dunno17:04
theblazehenCable IS crossover right?17:04
Private_Usernope normal cable17:04
Private_Userand yes it is working fine with the normal cable17:05
Private_Usermany people tell me its impossible but depends when your network card I guess17:06
theblazehenPrivate_User, NIC doing weird stuff I think then.. 17:06
theblazehenPrivate_User, think driver not properly loaded in early boot maybe17:07
Private_Userdo you know if there any logs for me to look at and where I can find them?17:07
theblazehenPrivate_User, try dmesg, and /var/log/syslog17:07
Private_Userthanks theblazehen but what is dmesg?17:11
theblazehenPrivate_User, kernel log17:11
Private_Userok how would I view that, remember I am a newbie when it comes to ubuntu/linux17:12
theblazehengo to terminal then do 'sudo dmesg '17:13
Private_Userthanks17:14
Private_Userbut now it seems to be frozen17:15
Private_UserI can move the mouse cursor on the screen but noting else is working17:15
superflyit's not frozen17:15
superflyif you press ctrl+c, what happens?17:15
Private_Usernothing17:16
theblazehenxterm? Might be too much output17:16
theblazehenhey superfly 17:17
superflyhi theblazehen17:18
superflytheblazehen: is your nick "The Blaze Hen"?17:18
theblazehensuperfly, yeah17:18
superflyI've *always* wanted to know...17:18
theblazehenhehe :)17:18
superfly:-D17:19
theblazehenUsed to be theblaze because of some game I played, lost password so added hen as its 3 letters of surname17:19
superflyah17:20
Private_Userok how long should I wait cause I open the syslog file and used the mouse scroller once and it is now not responding to mouse clicks or keyboard?17:21
theblazehenPrivate_User, try another tty? ctrl-alt-f317:22
Private_Userstill nothing17:23
theblazehenreboot then17:23
Private_Userok hard reboot it is then17:24
Private_Userthis time no issues booting with network cable plugged in but I now have an error on the screen after logging in17:25
Kiloswait17:26
Kilostype in sudo touch /forcefsck then reboot17:26
Kiloslet that try sort errors17:26
Kiloswhat error17:28
Private_Userok rebooted now but the screen is blank17:30
Kilosctrl+alt+f317:31
Kilosshould show terminal17:31
Private_Usernot doing anything17:31
Kilosf217:31
Private_Usernothing gonna hard reboot again17:32
Kilosdo you see text when its booting 17:32
Kilosext4 can handle hard boots17:32
Private_Userit did its usual thing but when it came the part to get into lubuntu its just blank17:33
Kilosremove the network cable and boot17:33
Kiloshi Xethron 17:34
Private_Userok its now doing it17:34
Kilosyou must look hey so you can fix yours one day17:34
Kiloshehe17:34
Kilosdoing what Private_User 17:34
Private_Userwell booting and performing the fschk17:35
Private_Usernow at login screen17:35
Kilosaha17:35
Kilossome bug came from windows17:36
Private_Userok this time no errors17:36
Private_Userlet me try internet17:36
Kilosoh you are sharing the lappys internet17:38
Private_Useropened chrome went into google fine17:39
Private_Usernow open xchat and it seems to have logged in to freenode but now the machine is frozen now mouse response or keyboard response17:40
Kiloshow up to date is the system there?17:40
Kiloseish17:40
Kilosyou using 3g?17:41
Private_UserI am seriously thinking of reinstalling the OS but then all the previous updates I performed I have to do them all over again and that means data usage17:41
Kiloslets try fix it first17:42
Kilosplug the modem into lubuntu17:42
Private_Usercause it was fine when I first installed it17:42
Kilosand reboot but do the sudo touch /forcefsck again17:43
Private_Useroh you it just switched itself off17:43
Private_Useryou know while it was frozen17:43
Kilossjoe17:43
Kilossuperfly, ideas?17:43
Kilossomething got corrupted there17:43
superflysounds like the machine is overheating17:44
theblazehenPrivate_User, it's fine without network?17:44
Private_Userok let me bring this screen and keyboard closer to my laptop so we can try it again17:44
theblazehensuperfly, or bad RAM maybe?17:44
superflythat too17:44
superflyPrivate_User: and you're sure it's the machine that's freezing, and not just the USB controller or something?17:45
Private_Userits a PS2 mouse and keyboard17:45
theblazehenYeah, see if you can SSH from other machine?17:45
theblazehenHey, anyone got a good web tool for network diagrams?17:51
KilosPrivate_User, try unplugging ram and pluging back again]17:54
Kiloshi smile17:55
theblazehenhey smile 17:55
smilehi :D17:55
Kiloswbb need modem for a bit17:57
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inetprotheblazehen: try www.draw.io18:08
theblazeheninetpro, ty, using it18:08
inetprotheblazehen: draw.io can be a bit tricky with a few bugs and so but quite responsive and easy to use18:09
theblazeheninetpro, ty.18:10
theblazehenAlso mind looking over it when I'm done?18:10
inetprosure18:10
inetprowhat is it for?18:10
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theblazeheninetpro, just my setup at home18:11
inetproahh18:11
Private_Userok just got my desktop screen and keyboard closer to me18:12
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theblazeheninetpro, it's done, now pls tell me why its shit? http://imgur.com/bip0ydh18:21
inetproyikes!18:23
theblazehen:(18:23
inetprowhat is proxmox VE?18:23
theblazehenKVM virtualisation program18:24
smile:p18:24
theblazeheninetpro, why is it bad?18:24
inetprono, just trying to picture this in my mind18:24
inetprolooks rather busy18:25
inetproand interesting18:25
theblazehenso not nececerraly bad?18:25
inetpronice in fact18:26
theblazehenooh yay :)18:26
inetproyou duplicated 192.168.0.3 ?18:27
theblazehenoh shit, just used copy-paste..18:27
theblazehenforgot to change18:27
theblazehenpretend the last .03 is .04, and the rest are all 1 higher..18:28
theblazehenGoing to use DNS on pfsense to access the machines anyway18:28
inetpronp18:28
theblazehenhey magespawn 18:28
magespawngood evening18:28
inetprohi magespawn18:28
magespawnhey theblazehen 18:29
magespawnhowdy inetpro 18:29
magespawnmeeting tonight?18:30
theblazehenmagespawn, nope18:30
inetpromagespawn: tomorrow18:30
magespawnah tuesday, funny really thought it was tonight18:31
theblazeheninetpro, was it a bit confusing?18:31
theblazehenmaking a v218:32
inetprotheblazehen: no just a bit much to take in at first glance 18:32
inetprox2go looks interesting as well18:33
inetpronever used it18:33
theblazeheninetpro, kk. New version almost done btw18:33
magespawnthe hluhluwe hotel had a pfsense box running the guest internet18:33
inetprotheblazehen: what do you use RAdius for?18:37
theblazeheninetpro, auth with VPN18:37
magespawndid not have a web interface though only a cli that i saw18:37
inetprointeresting18:38
inetproand what does your email setup look like, what do you use?18:38
theblazeheninetpro, still need to decide. this is what I want to do, not whats currently running18:39
inetproahh18:39
magespawntheblazehen, do you own the machine or is it a vps?18:40
theblazehenFFS, can't export good png. stuff gets cut off18:40
theblazehenmagespawn, I own machine18:40
inetprotheblazehen: why arch?18:41
theblazeheninetpro, it's just what I use. It's a P2V of my current machine18:41
theblazehenhttp://imgur.com/lBgSDn2 fuck it, heres a screenshot of draw.io18:42
Golynxhey theblazehen18:43
magespawncool beans, to run a vpn with radius do you need a hectic machine or something basic?18:43
theblazehenhey Golynx 18:43
magespawnhi georgl 18:43
magespawnhi Golynx 18:43
theblazehenmagespawn, for approx. 10mbit you need approx 400MHz CPU, 512MB RAM18:43
Golynxhi magespawn18:43
theblazehenIIRC18:43
inetprotheblazehen: cool, now that explains puppetmaster18:44
inetprolooks like you're having fun18:44
magespawnokay does that increase by the same factor, so 100mbit and so on?18:45
theblazeheninetpro, yeah :) magespawn not sure, will need to check pfsense page18:45
theblazehenhey Kilos 18:46
inetprowb Kilos18:46
Kilosty gennlemense18:46
Kiloshad to fight e220 with sakis3g to get connnected18:46
inetprohmm... 18:47
* inetpro getting tired 18:47
Kiloswhile using modem on other pc got an sms saying you have 100m voda data so tried it here in the e22018:47
Kilosgrrr18:47
magespawnhi Kilos 18:47
Golynxwb Kilos18:47
Kiloshiya magespawn 18:47
Golynxhi inetpro18:47
Kilosto Golynx 18:47
Kilosinetpro, go sleep old man18:48
inetprohope to be awake tomorrow evening, so gonna sleep early tonight18:48
inetprogood night18:48
Kilosyeah18:48
Golynxtake care inetpro18:49
Golynxi dunno why Xfce session is using the same memory as unity 2D :/18:50
Kiloshaha18:50
Kilosthere we go18:50
Kiloscore2 quad is running18:51
GolynxKilos you know why Xfce session is using the same memory as unity 2D :/18:51
Kilos-heehee18:51
Kiloshow much memory18:51
Kilosmemory or cpu18:51
Kilosim sure you worry about funny things18:52
GolynxRAM18:52
Kilosif everything is working leave well enough alone18:52
Kiloshow you see how much ram its using18:53
GolynxNo i dont , i thought Xfce supposed to use far less memory though'18:53
Golynxi use "top" in terminal18:53
Kilosless cpu because of lighter gui18:53
Kiloswhat all you have running?18:54
GolynxYa cpu usage is less18:54
Kilosim   sure top also uses ram18:54
Kilosall the funny stuff you run is using the ram18:54
GolynxOpera, j2me emulator, terminal, 18:55
Kilosopera also uses lots of ram18:55
GolynxIts not much , its very little things open though18:55
Kilosive seen opera using 80%18:55
Kilosthat same top command18:55
Kilosdid private user come right guys18:56
Kiloshe shoulda saved his archives before a reinstall18:56
Kilosthen save lotsa data18:57
GolynxBut its using the same amount of ram with the same apps open as it was in Unity 2D18:57
Kilosim sure its opera18:57
Kilosclose it and the other funnies and watch top18:58
Kiloshow much ram you got again?18:58
Golynxlol , without opera there is no pc for me18:58
theblazehenGolynx, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/18:58
GolynxIts ok i will live with it18:59
Kilos-told you use xchat for here then you can check opera using lotsa stuffs18:59
Golynxtheblazehen i will check that link18:59
Kilos-ok i got off here now19:00
Kilos-toods19:00
Kilosati grahics working kiff there19:00
Golynxlol  thanks for that theblazehen :)19:01
theblazehennp Golynx :)19:01
magespawnhey back again19:06
smilemagespawn: welcome back :)19:06
magespawnhi there smile, long time no chat19:08
smilemagespawn: yes :D19:08
smileI've been busy19:08
smileI passed all my exams :)19:08
magespawnawesome19:09
smileYeah :D19:09
magespawntheblazehen, radius or freeradius?19:10
theblazehenmagespawn, whatever is available with serevr 2012? Not 100% sure of specifics yet19:10
theblazehenmagespawn, https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/OpenVPN_with_RADIUS_via_Active_Directory19:11
magespawnty theblazehen 19:13
theblazehennp. why you wanna know magespawn ?19:14
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:15
magespawnmy current job is looking after a game reserves network with several ap for guests and the company has several hotels and the head office dotted about the country side19:15
magespawngood night Kilos 19:15
magespawntheblazehen, you running a windows server?19:16
theblazehenmagespawn, ah kk. gonna run it19:16
theblazehenSaw something the otherday with openvpn on ubiquiti wireless mesh or something. might be usefull?19:16
magespawnvery19:17
theblazehenhttp://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1w05ba/coworker_is_too_lazy_to_configure_openvpn_mesh_on/19:17
magespawni want to also keep the guests out of our part of the network19:18
theblazehenHmm. vlan it?19:18
theblazehenthat openvpn mesh useful for you?19:19
magespawni will check it out theblazehen 19:22
theblazehenkk, well cya magespawn, all. going to bed19:22
magespawngood night theblazehen 19:22
theblazeheninetpro, trender was allowed on again?19:25
theblazehensuperfly,^19:26
theblazehenHyperthread = trender if you didn't know19:26
magespawngood night all20:05
smilebye :)20:37
superflytheblazehen: i had wondered, but he changed his tack21:33

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