[04:51] <Kilos> morning you minority
[04:53] <Kilos> wbb
[06:02] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:15] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:19] <Squirm> morning
[06:19] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:34] <superfly> morning folks
[06:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings :)
[07:06] <inetpro> good morning
[07:07] <Kilos> morning superfly inetpro bduk1 
[07:07] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:08] <Kilos> Vince-0, can you get a message to una, i dont know if she is on our mailing list here
[07:11] <Kilos> there is a job going but in jhb
[07:11] <bduk1> More more everyone
[07:16] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[07:20] <Vince-0> Sup!
[07:21] <Vince-0> Kilos, I'll do so
[07:21] <Kilos> ty
[07:21] <Vince-0> done
[07:23] <SmilyBorg> Morning folks
[07:24] <Vince-0> sup!
[07:28] <Kilos> ohi SmilyBorg 
[07:29] <Kilos> are you on our mailing list girl?
[07:29] <Kilos> hi Golynx 
[07:29] <Golynx> Morning Kilos
[07:29] <Golynx> Hi SmileyBorg
[07:32] <Golynx> Kilos does your icons freeze up sometimes in quicklaunch
[07:32] <Kilos> whats quicklaunch
[07:33] <Golynx> the dash quicklaunch 
[07:34] <Golynx> when i used python for a while the python icons became none tickable
[07:35] <SmilyBorg> Kilos: Not sure. Are the details on the website?
[07:35] <Kilos> the man is here
[07:35] <Kilos> oh wait ill give
[07:36] <Kilos> SmilyBorg,  http://bit.ly/MCOujZ 
[07:37] <Kilos> give your cv link here then he can look when time allows
[07:38] <Golynx> what man is here? :/
[07:38] <Kilos> Xethron, 
[07:38] <Golynx> oh
[07:38] <Xethron> Kilos
[07:38] <Kilos> Xethron, here is SmilyBorg 
[07:39] <Kilos> she is looking for work
[07:39] <Xethron> oh, yes, you told me about her
[07:40] <Golynx> Hey Xethron
[07:42] <Xethron> heya Golynx
[07:42] <Xethron> L(
[07:42] <Xethron> :)
[07:43] <SmilyBorg> Thanks Kilos
[07:43] <Kilos> yyw SmilyBorg 
[07:46] <Golynx> Another success story :)
[07:46] <Kilos> i hope so
[07:46] <Kilos> she is very clever. cv longer than my leg
[07:48] <Golynx> thats great! the more skilled the better the results 
[07:48] <Kilos> i just dont remember if i see web dev on it
[07:48] <Kilos> and didnt save the link
[07:50] <Golynx> I'm sure she'll do great
[07:50] <Kilos> see Golynx this is how your setup should have worked
[07:51] <Kilos> i have a drive with xp on
[07:51] <Kilos> just squeezed xd smaller and installed 12.04 alongside
[07:51] <Kilos> s/xd/xp
[07:52] <Golynx> I got a extra drive aswell, but a few pins broken on it 
[07:52] <Golynx> i see
[07:52] <Golynx> so what is that partition unlock trick
[07:53] <Kilos> sometimes you can buy that control board
[07:53] <Kilos> oh you have to go in as admin
[07:53] <Kilos> not as the user
[07:53] <Golynx> sudo ?
[07:53] <Kilos> i dunno how but ian did it here for me
[07:54] <Kilos> no man win7 admin
[07:54] <Golynx> oh ok
[07:54] <Kilos> then unlock everything
[07:54] <Kilos> then install linux alongside
[07:55] <Golynx> i guess that partition is unlocked now, since i erased the whole disk
[07:55] <SmilyBorg> Kilos: CV link https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7095021/CV/UAK%20CV%202013-12-06.pdf
[07:55] <Kilos> lol
[07:55] <Golynx> :p
[07:55] <Kilos> Xethron, cv link above ^^
[07:56] <Golynx> so now install windows alongside ubuntu with no issues
[07:56] <Kilos> Golynx, im sorry it happened that way but ian only came here after you had installed
[07:56] <Kilos> no
[07:56] <Kilos> always win first
[07:57] <Kilos> otherwise windows messes up the boot
[07:57] <Kilos> grub
[07:57] <Golynx> ah so new drive then
[07:58] <Kilos> it can be fixed with boot-repair from the live cd
[07:58] <Kilos> and must be online
[07:58] <Golynx> Its ok , aslong as i can use all the tools i did on windows in linux aswell , i'm cool beans!
[07:59] <Kilos> if you are very good with a soldering iron you can sometimes replace broken pins on drives
[08:00] <Kilos> just to find the right pins to replace them with
[08:00] <Kilos> copper wire wont last long i think
[08:01] <Kilos> mind you it could if you dont unplug the drive daily
[08:02] <Golynx> I had a soldering iron back in Paarl, but gave it away.
[08:03] <Golynx> actually a filing cabinet fell on the drive when i was trying to fix my old desktop pc
[08:03] <Kilos> what size drive is it
[08:03] <Golynx> 640GB
[08:04] <Kilos> worth trying to save then
[08:04] <Kilos> make?
[08:04] <Golynx> i guess
[08:04] <Kilos> seagate
[08:04] <Golynx> seagate
[08:04] <Kilos> or send it here dont throw in trash
[08:05] <Golynx> if i cant fix it you can have it :)
[08:05] <Kilos> cool
[08:07] <Kilos> ill pay the postage
[08:07] <Kilos> in coupla months time
[08:08] <Golynx> i will cross those bridges when i get there
[08:08] <Kilos> so try fix it before then but dont mess up too much
[08:08] <Golynx> haha, luckily i know alot about electronics 
[08:10] <Kilos> lappy connections are ver tiny and close together, hard to work on
[08:11] <Kilos> even desktop drives is difficult if they sata
[08:11] <Golynx> its scsi i think not sure
[08:11] <Kilos> you need good eyes steady hand and very thin point soldering iron like weller makes
[08:13] <Golynx> Ya when i used to solder the pins of cmos chips, the bubbles from the flux was the major problem
[08:14] <Golynx> got a steady hand though
[08:16] <Kilos> flux you clean off after with alcohol if i remember right
[08:18] <Kilos> did that kinda work 40 years ago
[08:20] <Golynx> lol ya i was a kid aswell when i did that, building cb radios and stuff 
[08:20] <Kilos> i was 25
[08:20] <Kilos> hehe
[08:21] <Kilos> 23
[08:22] <Kilos> hi charl 
[08:22] <Golynx> always been interested in artificial intelligence, made a robot that picked up my jellytots when i threw it next to it lol
[08:22] <Golynx> hey charl
[08:22] <Kilos> lol
[08:24] <Golynx> that was with infrared sensors, today people use miniature cameras and specific robotics software to achieve the same resuly
[08:24] <Golynx> result*
[08:41] <charl> hi Golynx 
[08:41] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:41] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:41]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:45] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:45] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[08:45] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[11:39] <Kilos> hiya drussell 
[11:39] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[11:40] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[11:40] <psyatw> hi drussell
[11:44] <drussell> Kilos / psyatw : hey all!
[11:49] <magespawn> good day
[11:50] <psyatw> hello magespawn
[11:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[13:52] <Hyperthread> oh
[14:27] <inetpro> Hyperthread: hi
[14:27] <inetpro> Kilos: I suddenly hear rain falling on the roof
[14:28]  * inetpro loves the sound of rain
[14:28] <Kilos> inetpro, it dripped here for a bit while i was sewing some grass seed then i gave up and came inside and now its sun shine again
[14:30] <Kilos> and the birds are eating what i sewed
[14:30] <Kilos> sigh
[14:30] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[14:30] <inetpro> ai!
[14:30] <magespawn> hi inetpro Hyperthread 
[14:57] <nlsthzn> Hello cloudy and slightly wet South Africa
[14:57] <Hyperthread> no thats the PTA weather report
[14:57] <Hyperthread> dont generalise :D
[14:58] <nlsthzn> :)
[14:58] <SilverCode> yeah, it is hot as hell here in the western cape
[14:58] <SilverCode> would love some cold wet weather right about now actually
[14:58] <Hyperthread> ya you and me both
[14:59] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn SilverCode Hyperthread magespawn 
[14:59] <Kilos> hi oupateddie 
[14:59] <Hyperthread> greeting kilos asl ?
[14:59] <SilverCode> Hi Kilos 
[14:59] <Hyperthread> greetings kilos asl ?
[14:59] <Kilos> whats broken
[14:59] <Hyperthread> :D
[14:59] <oupateddie> hi Kilos
[14:59] <Hyperthread> just kidding ;)
[14:59] <SilverCode> I wonder if people still ask asl on IRC
[15:00] <SilverCode> I would assume nowadays IRC has been watered down to a generic pool of middle aged men
[15:00] <Hyperthread> only ask asl to anoy sombody :D
[15:00] <SilverCode> and by midle aged, between 25 - 65
[15:01] <nlsthzn> hi uncle Kilos
[15:01] <Kilos> eek i fit there
[15:01] <oupateddie> guys what can I do to download You-tube which are on google videos?
[15:01] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn mobo runs kiff
[15:02] <nlsthzn> asking asl is seen as rude as it was mostly used for peeps to chat to girls :p
[15:02] <Kilos> there is a youtube ripper
[15:02] <nlsthzn> Kilos: awesome... 
[15:02] <nlsthzn> as long as it isn't running to hot :)
[15:02] <Kilos> just the start button dont work
[15:03] <Kilos> but first time i see a start button on the mobo
[15:03] <nlsthzn> that is weird
[15:03] <oupateddie> I've been using downloadhelper but suddenly some of the videos do not download.
[15:03] <nlsthzn> I forgot to add any cables :/
[15:03] <Kilos> oupateddie, one of the guys will help you there
[15:03] <Kilos> np nlsthzn i have lots
[15:03] <oupateddie> The you tubes housed by googlevideos
[15:03] <nlsthzn> if the video is blocked in your country downloadhelper cant cache it to download it :/
[15:03] <Kilos> ty so much nlsthzn 
[15:04] <oupateddie> OK but what can I use to get it, or is there no way?
[15:04] <nlsthzn> it is older CPU but still pretty powerful
[15:05]  * nlsthzn isn't sure except if that is the problem then you need something like TOR etc... but that is a pita just to download videos which is against the terms of service in any case
[15:05] <Kilos> its not older compared to what i had nlsthzn 
[15:06] <nlsthzn> and you can add more memory too
[15:07] <oupateddie> nlsthzn I tried a number of download helpers in Thunderbird as well as Chrome but none seems to work on these specific videos. They all create the file but then crash and reply with "failed to convert"
[15:07] <nlsthzn> sorry oupateddie I am not sure...
[15:08] <oupateddie> OK
[15:10] <Kilos> yeah i see it can take 16g nlsthzn 
[15:11] <nlsthzn> 4gb is a nice start, expecially for linux...
[15:11] <nlsthzn> imo 8gb is the sweet spot then again more is always better :p
[15:12] <Kilos> yeah
[15:12] <Kilos> lol
[15:19]  * nlsthzn will be back in a day or two
[15:25] <charl> the meeting is tomorrow night?
[15:25] <charl> ok i'll try to be here tomorrow
[15:26] <charl> have a good evening all !
[15:35] <theblazehen> hi all
[15:36] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[15:36] <theblazehen> hey Kilos 
[15:37] <theblazehen> Kilos, whats new?
[15:37] <Kilos> nothing yet
[15:37] <Kilos> everything older than yesterday
[15:39] <magespawn> later all home time
[15:40] <theblazehen> cya magespawn 
[16:03] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[16:04] <Private_User> hi Kilos 
[16:04] <theblazehen> hi Private_User 
[16:05] <Private_User> hi theblazehen 
[16:56] <Private_User> any reason why my machine would have issues booting up when the network cable is plugged in?
[16:58] <Private_User> it gave many stack errors and other stuff I do not remember now and then would suddenly just switch off
[16:59] <Kilos> whew
[17:00] <Private_User> never got it to the login screen how ever did get it to recovery mode once and performed chkdsk and seemed to be fine however could not get it to boot again into recovery mode or to the login screen
[17:00] <Kilos> what os?
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:00] <Private_User> then all I did was remove the network cable and it booted in fine
[17:00] <Private_User> lubuntu
[17:00] <Private_User> I now have the cable plugged in and it even connected to the internet
[17:01] <theblazehen> Private_User, no PXE server on network?
[17:03] <Private_User> its just my Laptop which is a Windows Vista machine and my Desktop (lubuntu machine) connected to each other using a direct cable connection
[17:04] <Private_User> I am sharing the internet on my laptop with the desktop
[17:04] <theblazehen> hmm.. dunno
[17:04] <theblazehen> Cable IS crossover right?
[17:04] <Private_User> nope normal cable
[17:05] <Private_User> and yes it is working fine with the normal cable
[17:06] <Private_User> many people tell me its impossible but depends when your network card I guess
[17:06] <theblazehen> Private_User, NIC doing weird stuff I think then.. 
[17:07] <theblazehen> Private_User, think driver not properly loaded in early boot maybe
[17:07] <Private_User> do you know if there any logs for me to look at and where I can find them?
[17:07] <theblazehen> Private_User, try dmesg, and /var/log/syslog
[17:11] <Private_User> thanks theblazehen but what is dmesg?
[17:11] <theblazehen> Private_User, kernel log
[17:12] <Private_User> ok how would I view that, remember I am a newbie when it comes to ubuntu/linux
[17:13] <theblazehen> go to terminal then do 'sudo dmesg '
[17:14] <Private_User> thanks
[17:15] <Private_User> but now it seems to be frozen
[17:15] <Private_User> I can move the mouse cursor on the screen but noting else is working
[17:15] <superfly> it's not frozen
[17:15] <superfly> if you press ctrl+c, what happens?
[17:16] <Private_User> nothing
[17:16] <theblazehen> xterm? Might be too much output
[17:17] <theblazehen> hey superfly 
[17:18] <superfly> hi theblazehen
[17:18] <superfly> theblazehen: is your nick "The Blaze Hen"?
[17:18] <theblazehen> superfly, yeah
[17:18] <superfly> I've *always* wanted to know...
[17:18] <theblazehen> hehe :)
[17:19] <superfly> :-D
[17:19] <theblazehen> Used to be theblaze because of some game I played, lost password so added hen as its 3 letters of surname
[17:20] <superfly> ah
[17:21] <Private_User> ok how long should I wait cause I open the syslog file and used the mouse scroller once and it is now not responding to mouse clicks or keyboard?
[17:22] <theblazehen> Private_User, try another tty? ctrl-alt-f3
[17:23] <Private_User> still nothing
[17:23] <theblazehen> reboot then
[17:24] <Private_User> ok hard reboot it is then
[17:25] <Private_User> this time no issues booting with network cable plugged in but I now have an error on the screen after logging in
[17:26] <Kilos> wait
[17:26] <Kilos> type in sudo touch /forcefsck then reboot
[17:26] <Kilos> let that try sort errors
[17:28] <Kilos> what error
[17:30] <Private_User> ok rebooted now but the screen is blank
[17:31] <Kilos> ctrl+alt+f3
[17:31] <Kilos> should show terminal
[17:31] <Private_User> not doing anything
[17:31] <Kilos> f2
[17:32] <Private_User> nothing gonna hard reboot again
[17:32] <Kilos> do you see text when its booting 
[17:32] <Kilos> ext4 can handle hard boots
[17:33] <Private_User> it did its usual thing but when it came the part to get into lubuntu its just blank
[17:33] <Kilos> remove the network cable and boot
[17:34] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[17:34] <Private_User> ok its now doing it
[17:34] <Kilos> you must look hey so you can fix yours one day
[17:34] <Kilos> hehe
[17:34] <Kilos> doing what Private_User 
[17:35] <Private_User> well booting and performing the fschk
[17:35] <Private_User> now at login screen
[17:35] <Kilos> aha
[17:36] <Kilos> some bug came from windows
[17:36] <Private_User> ok this time no errors
[17:36] <Private_User> let me try internet
[17:38] <Kilos> oh you are sharing the lappys internet
[17:39] <Private_User> opened chrome went into google fine
[17:40] <Private_User> now open xchat and it seems to have logged in to freenode but now the machine is frozen now mouse response or keyboard response
[17:40] <Kilos> how up to date is the system there?
[17:40] <Kilos> eish
[17:41] <Kilos> you using 3g?
[17:41] <Private_User> I am seriously thinking of reinstalling the OS but then all the previous updates I performed I have to do them all over again and that means data usage
[17:42] <Kilos> lets try fix it first
[17:42] <Kilos> plug the modem into lubuntu
[17:42] <Private_User> cause it was fine when I first installed it
[17:43] <Kilos> and reboot but do the sudo touch /forcefsck again
[17:43] <Private_User> oh you it just switched itself off
[17:43] <Private_User> you know while it was frozen
[17:43] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:43] <Kilos> superfly, ideas?
[17:43] <Kilos> something got corrupted there
[17:44] <superfly> sounds like the machine is overheating
[17:44] <theblazehen> Private_User, it's fine without network?
[17:44] <Private_User> ok let me bring this screen and keyboard closer to my laptop so we can try it again
[17:44] <theblazehen> superfly, or bad RAM maybe?
[17:44] <superfly> that too
[17:45] <superfly> Private_User: and you're sure it's the machine that's freezing, and not just the USB controller or something?
[17:45] <Private_User> its a PS2 mouse and keyboard
[17:45] <theblazehen> Yeah, see if you can SSH from other machine?
[17:51] <theblazehen> Hey, anyone got a good web tool for network diagrams?
[17:54] <Kilos> Private_User, try unplugging ram and pluging back again]
[17:55] <Kilos> hi smile
[17:55] <theblazehen> hey smile 
[17:55] <smile> hi :D
[17:57] <Kilos> wbb need modem for a bit
[18:08] <inetpro> theblazehen: try www.draw.io
[18:08] <theblazehen> inetpro, ty, using it
[18:09] <inetpro> theblazehen: draw.io can be a bit tricky with a few bugs and so but quite responsive and easy to use
[18:10] <theblazehen> inetpro, ty.
[18:10] <theblazehen> Also mind looking over it when I'm done?
[18:10] <inetpro> sure
[18:10] <inetpro> what is it for?
[18:11] <theblazehen> inetpro, just my setup at home
[18:11] <inetpro> ahh
[18:12] <Private_User> ok just got my desktop screen and keyboard closer to me
[18:21] <theblazehen> inetpro, it's done, now pls tell me why its shit? http://imgur.com/bip0ydh
[18:23] <inetpro> yikes!
[18:23] <theblazehen> :(
[18:23] <inetpro> what is proxmox VE?
[18:24] <theblazehen> KVM virtualisation program
[18:24] <smile> :p
[18:24] <theblazehen> inetpro, why is it bad?
[18:24] <inetpro> no, just trying to picture this in my mind
[18:25] <inetpro> looks rather busy
[18:25] <inetpro> and interesting
[18:25] <theblazehen> so not nececerraly bad?
[18:26] <inetpro> nice in fact
[18:26] <theblazehen> ooh yay :)
[18:27] <inetpro> you duplicated 192.168.0.3 ?
[18:27] <theblazehen> oh shit, just used copy-paste..
[18:27] <theblazehen> forgot to change
[18:28] <theblazehen> pretend the last .03 is .04, and the rest are all 1 higher..
[18:28] <theblazehen> Going to use DNS on pfsense to access the machines anyway
[18:28] <inetpro> np
[18:28] <theblazehen> hey magespawn 
[18:28] <magespawn> good evening
[18:28] <inetpro> hi magespawn
[18:29] <magespawn> hey theblazehen 
[18:29] <magespawn> howdy inetpro 
[18:30] <magespawn> meeting tonight?
[18:30] <theblazehen> magespawn, nope
[18:30] <inetpro> magespawn: tomorrow
[18:31] <magespawn> ah tuesday, funny really thought it was tonight
[18:31] <theblazehen> inetpro, was it a bit confusing?
[18:32] <theblazehen> making a v2
[18:32] <inetpro> theblazehen: no just a bit much to take in at first glance 
[18:33] <inetpro> x2go looks interesting as well
[18:33] <inetpro> never used it
[18:33] <theblazehen> inetpro, kk. New version almost done btw
[18:33] <magespawn> the hluhluwe hotel had a pfsense box running the guest internet
[18:37] <inetpro> theblazehen: what do you use RAdius for?
[18:37] <theblazehen> inetpro, auth with VPN
[18:37] <magespawn> did not have a web interface though only a cli that i saw
[18:38] <inetpro> interesting
[18:38] <inetpro> and what does your email setup look like, what do you use?
[18:39] <theblazehen> inetpro, still need to decide. this is what I want to do, not whats currently running
[18:39] <inetpro> ahh
[18:40] <magespawn> theblazehen, do you own the machine or is it a vps?
[18:40] <theblazehen> FFS, can't export good png. stuff gets cut off
[18:40] <theblazehen> magespawn, I own machine
[18:41] <inetpro> theblazehen: why arch?
[18:41] <theblazehen> inetpro, it's just what I use. It's a P2V of my current machine
[18:42] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/lBgSDn2 fuck it, heres a screenshot of draw.io
[18:43] <Golynx> hey theblazehen
[18:43] <magespawn> cool beans, to run a vpn with radius do you need a hectic machine or something basic?
[18:43] <theblazehen> hey Golynx 
[18:43] <magespawn> hi georgl 
[18:43] <magespawn> hi Golynx 
[18:43] <theblazehen> magespawn, for approx. 10mbit you need approx 400MHz CPU, 512MB RAM
[18:43] <Golynx> hi magespawn
[18:43] <theblazehen> IIRC
[18:44] <inetpro> theblazehen: cool, now that explains puppetmaster
[18:44] <inetpro> looks like you're having fun
[18:45] <magespawn> okay does that increase by the same factor, so 100mbit and so on?
[18:45] <theblazehen> inetpro, yeah :) magespawn not sure, will need to check pfsense page
[18:46] <theblazehen> hey Kilos 
[18:46] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[18:46] <Kilos> ty gennlemense
[18:46] <Kilos> had to fight e220 with sakis3g to get connnected
[18:47] <inetpro> hmm... 
[18:47]  * inetpro getting tired 
[18:47] <Kilos> while using modem on other pc got an sms saying you have 100m voda data so tried it here in the e220
[18:47] <Kilos> grrr
[18:47] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[18:47] <Golynx> wb Kilos
[18:47] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[18:47] <Golynx> hi inetpro
[18:47] <Kilos> to Golynx 
[18:48] <Kilos> inetpro, go sleep old man
[18:48] <inetpro> hope to be awake tomorrow evening, so gonna sleep early tonight
[18:48] <inetpro> good night
[18:48] <Kilos> yeah
[18:49] <Golynx> take care inetpro
[18:50] <Golynx> i dunno why Xfce session is using the same memory as unity 2D :/
[18:50] <Kilos> haha
[18:50] <Kilos> there we go
[18:51] <Kilos> core2 quad is running
[18:51] <Golynx> Kilos you know why Xfce session is using the same memory as unity 2D :/
[18:51] <Kilos-> heehee
[18:51] <Kilos> how much memory
[18:51] <Kilos> memory or cpu
[18:52] <Kilos> im sure you worry about funny things
[18:52] <Golynx> RAM
[18:52] <Kilos> if everything is working leave well enough alone
[18:53] <Kilos> how you see how much ram its using
[18:53] <Golynx> No i dont , i thought Xfce supposed to use far less memory though'
[18:53] <Golynx> i use "top" in terminal
[18:53] <Kilos> less cpu because of lighter gui
[18:54] <Kilos> what all you have running?
[18:54] <Golynx> Ya cpu usage is less
[18:54] <Kilos> im   sure top also uses ram
[18:54] <Kilos> all the funny stuff you run is using the ram
[18:55] <Golynx> Opera, j2me emulator, terminal, 
[18:55] <Kilos> opera also uses lots of ram
[18:55] <Golynx> Its not much , its very little things open though
[18:55] <Kilos> ive seen opera using 80%
[18:55] <Kilos> that same top command
[18:56] <Kilos> did private user come right guys
[18:56] <Kilos> he shoulda saved his archives before a reinstall
[18:57] <Kilos> then save lotsa data
[18:57] <Golynx> But its using the same amount of ram with the same apps open as it was in Unity 2D
[18:57] <Kilos> im sure its opera
[18:58] <Kilos> close it and the other funnies and watch top
[18:58] <Kilos> how much ram you got again?
[18:58] <Golynx> lol , without opera there is no pc for me
[18:58] <theblazehen> Golynx, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[18:59] <Golynx> Its ok i will live with it
[18:59] <Kilos-> told you use xchat for here then you can check opera using lotsa stuffs
[18:59] <Golynx> theblazehen i will check that link
[19:00] <Kilos-> ok i got off here now
[19:00] <Kilos-> toods
[19:00] <Kilos> ati grahics working kiff there
[19:01] <Golynx> lol  thanks for that theblazehen :)
[19:01] <theblazehen> np Golynx :)
[19:06] <magespawn> hey back again
[19:06] <smile> magespawn: welcome back :)
[19:08] <magespawn> hi there smile, long time no chat
[19:08] <smile> magespawn: yes :D
[19:08] <smile> I've been busy
[19:08] <smile> I passed all my exams :)
[19:09] <magespawn> awesome
[19:09] <smile> Yeah :D
[19:10] <magespawn> theblazehen, radius or freeradius?
[19:10] <theblazehen> magespawn, whatever is available with serevr 2012? Not 100% sure of specifics yet
[19:11] <theblazehen> magespawn, https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/OpenVPN_with_RADIUS_via_Active_Directory
[19:13] <magespawn> ty theblazehen 
[19:14] <theblazehen> np. why you wanna know magespawn ?
[19:15] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:15] <magespawn> my current job is looking after a game reserves network with several ap for guests and the company has several hotels and the head office dotted about the country side
[19:15] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[19:16] <magespawn> theblazehen, you running a windows server?
[19:16] <theblazehen> magespawn, ah kk. gonna run it
[19:16] <theblazehen> Saw something the otherday with openvpn on ubiquiti wireless mesh or something. might be usefull?
[19:17] <magespawn> very
[19:17] <theblazehen> http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1w05ba/coworker_is_too_lazy_to_configure_openvpn_mesh_on/
[19:18] <magespawn> i want to also keep the guests out of our part of the network
[19:18] <theblazehen> Hmm. vlan it?
[19:19] <theblazehen> that openvpn mesh useful for you?
[19:22] <magespawn> i will check it out theblazehen 
[19:22] <theblazehen> kk, well cya magespawn, all. going to bed
[19:22] <magespawn> good night theblazehen 
[19:25] <theblazehen> inetpro, trender was allowed on again?
[19:26] <theblazehen> superfly,^
[19:26] <theblazehen> Hyperthread = trender if you didn't know
[20:05] <magespawn> good night all
[20:37] <smile> bye :)
[21:33] <superfly> theblazehen: i had wondered, but he changed his tack