[00:00] <pvl1> onlty: and to be honest i couldnt even get it to work properly on windows
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: can yiu pastebin the full output of: ./configure
[00:00] <ejuan> ya
[00:00] <onlty> pvl1, OpenGL set to Intel Ivybride blah blah blah
[00:00] <Phosie> Hi guys, hoping you could help me. I'm wanting to do some SPICE simulation, but using input from a text file (rather than GUI of LTSpice + wine) but I cannot seem to find software that could do that. Any advice?
[00:00] <onlty> i am not able to switch to discrete card
[00:00] <onlty> even vgaswitcheroo mising
[00:00] <Phosie> I tried to simply install "spice" but it has no installation candidate
[00:00] <pvl1> onlty: set the xorg.conf, kill x and try to xinit
[00:01] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6823439/
[00:01] <demophobia> thanks
[00:02] <demophobia> erm, seems http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/10/17/howto-suspend-ubuntu-from-terminal-or-keyboard-shortcuts/ is incorrect, that suspend-comp is not a command recognized by ubuntu 12.04
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: have a look at the answers here: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/14296/cgminer-opencl-detection-overrided-autogen-error
[00:02]  * demophobia reads http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line
[00:04] <demophobia> I found pm-suspend; it appears suspending a computer is not such a simple task ...?...
[00:05] <demophobia> ubuntu 12.04 doesn't use gnome, right?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: ubuntu is built on top of gnome
[00:07] <pvl1> onlty yt
[00:08] <onlty> pvl1, i tried, and xrandr lists only intel
[00:08] <Maytag> Heeelp http://i.imgur.com/0QlNqVz.jpg
[00:09] <smartcion> ubuntu is no longer built on top of gnome. that was several years ago. it's now unity/wayland
[00:09] <demophobia> thanks hitsujiTMO -- why am i mistaken in thinking that unity replaced gnome?
[00:09] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, got it to configure properly with ./configure --enable-opencl --enable-scrypt
[00:09] <demophobia> oh, smartcion so i am correct?
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | ejuan
[00:09] <demophobia> that unity has replaced gnome?
[00:09] <ejuan> also did sudo apt-get install opencl-headers
[00:09] <Maytag> Installing 12.04 seemed to finish, asked for a reboot, now it will only load to that. I can get to root but cannot connect to my network
[00:09] <ejuan> not sure if it was needed
[00:09] <Maytag> Tried installing 13.04 but the boot disk only goes to that screen too
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: sorry unity is built on top of gnome
[00:10] <onlty> pvl1, i tried and not working
[00:10] <k1l> demophobia: unity is the new standard desktop since gnome stopped gnome2. they now go with gnome3
[00:10] <ejuan> awe frig ya it compiled
[00:11] <raspberry_squirt> Maytag: have you tried any other dirtibutions?
[00:11] <AndroidLoverInSF> i have avidemux 2.5.6 but it doesnt have the option to encode to x264. i had the newer version that had x264 as an option, but it always hanged at the beginning of the render.  why cant avidemux 2.5.6 use my x264 codec?
[00:11] <k1l> Maytag: does the bios work properly?
[00:11] <Maytag> Just 12.04 and 13.04
[00:11] <AndroidLoverInSF> it only has x263 as an option
[00:11] <ejuan> thanks hitsujiTMO
[00:11] <Maytag> Dell Inspiron 1501 so it's an older laptop. Sorta older
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> Maytag: is that the one with the x1300?
[00:11] <demophobia> erm, okay, thank you.
[00:11] <Maytag> Unsure what x1300 is
[00:12] <demophobia> I am scared to try http://askubuntu.com/a/131022 because I don't understand the command and don't want to break something.
[00:12] <pvl1> onlty error messages or what
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> mayday: radeon gpu
[00:12] <demophobia> Is http://askubuntu.com/a/131022 the best way to assign a keyboard shortcut to suspend in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:12] <Maytag> I believe it is a radeon gpu
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> mayday: how far into the boot does that happen?
[00:13] <onlty> pvl1, xrandr not enabled on radeon card
[00:13] <Maytag> I get to choose boot mode (recovery, or memory test, etc) and then it hits that
[00:13] <demophobia> i'm looking at man dbus-send now
[00:13] <Maytag> Tried installing 13.04 and it immediately hits that screen
[00:13] <k1l> !nomodeset | Maytag
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> mayday: try editing the grub entry and remove the quiet and splash from the linux command
[00:13] <DrGrov> Hello everyone
[00:14] <demophobia> Is \ in http://askubuntu.com/a/131022 used to split one command across multiple lines? ...
[00:14] <DrGrov> Is there any full feathered info package on 14.04 LTS out there somewhere?
[00:14] <Maytag> Sorry I don't know how to edit a grub entry, I'm pretty new to this
[00:14] <demophobia> would http://askubuntu.com/a/131022 work for unity? ...
[00:15] <pvl1> onlty enable randr in xirg.conf
[00:15] <k1l> Maytag: read the bots message. it includes a howto
[00:15] <Maytag> Thanks I'll go give that a shot
[00:16] <onlty> pvl1, how?
[00:16] <onlty> RADEON(0): No modes.
[00:18] <pvl1> h.o
[00:18] <pvl1> !randr
[00:18] <pvl1> !xrandr
[00:18] <glitsj16> demophobia: if you're refering to the dbus method from that link, yes the \ is used exactly for that purpose, might be easier to put it all on one line for using it as a shortcut command
[00:19] <Beldar> DrGrov, You might ask in #ubuntu+1 the development channel
[00:20] <DrGrov> Beldar: Thank you, will head on over there for those questions :)
[00:21] <loki_> hmm.  this is strange.  when I send a test message using "echo test | mail -v -s "testing ssmtp setup" username@somedomain.com" the display name is what I would like it to be, however when the nagios alert comes it doesn't use that display name.  you guys have any thoughts?
[00:21] <shadow431> looking for help with mdadm on 13.10, I want to create a 6 disk raid 10 but it doesn't seem to do more the 4
[00:23] <knightshade> hi
[00:24] <gukgk> I run multiple computers, all with 12.04 LTS....they ALL have system crashes although the systems all run without any bad 'symptoms' or other loss of usefulness. I just realized however that an unupdated fresh install doesn't have the system crashes. Does anyone know what update might be causing the system crashes???
[00:24] <pvl1> onlty  xrandr reports what
[00:24] <pvl1> onlty and what does the log say
[00:25] <onlty> pvl1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6823554/
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> shadow431: why not create a raid 0+1 ?
[00:25] <noideas> How to i enable my second NIC?
[00:25] <Maytag> nomodeset didn't work, same screen
[00:26] <loki_> hitsujiTMO: can you help me out with this nagios/ssmtp issue?  it's not a huge deal, really, but I would like to get it figured out.
[00:26] <Maytag> There was one parameter after quiet splash, $vthandoff, I put nomodeset after that, is that correct?
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: i know nothing of either i'm afraid
[00:27] <loki_> hitsujiTMO: darn.  no worries :D
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> Maytag: thats ok
[00:28] <Maytag> Dang. Same messy screen
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> mayday: try instead to remove quiet and splash                 that may give you a more verbose description of whats going wrong
[00:29] <kseifried> I assume for Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS if glusterfs is at major version 3.2 it will never be bumped to version 3.4?
[00:29] <Maytag> Leave nomodeset?
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> Maytag: ^
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> mayday: remove nomodeset too. well it wont be there
[00:29] <Maytag> k
[00:29] <Maytag> and $vt handoff?
[00:29] <noideas> nevermind i had a typo
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> kseifried: no, it will not be updated
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> !latest | kseifried this should explain why
[00:31] <kseifried> hitsujiTMO, so will they be back porting security fixes/etc? also since it's not compatible with GLusterFS 3.4 is there like a collection of up to date packages that can be added in optionally?
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> kseifried: maybe in the future. atm glusterfs is on 3.2 even on 13.10
[00:31] <kseifried> hitsujiTMO, gluster only commits to compatibility of N-1, so right now 3.2/3.4 don't play nice with each other :P
[00:32] <kseifried> hitsujiTMO, : oh heck. that's a problem :p
[00:32] <kseifried> grrr.
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> kseifried: its 3.4 in trusty tho
[00:33] <thom_r> Just as a reminder. Ubuntu 13.04 support officially ends today.
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> Maytag: sorry, keep $tv_handoff
[00:34] <loki_> thom_r: wow, that was fast :D
[00:34] <Maytag> Ahhhhhh
[00:34] <Maytag> Haha
[00:34] <Maytag> http://i.imgur.com/7o21f6M.jpg
[00:34] <Maytag> All that, ending with $vt_handoff but no quiet splash
[00:34] <Maytag> ?
[00:34] <thom_r> *is confused
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> Maytag: yup
[00:35] <Maytag> And vt needs the underscore
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> Maytag: yup
[00:35] <Maytag> Haha thanks, will try again
[00:37] <pvl1> onlty: can u try blacklisting the intel driver
[00:37] <pvl1> u can find it in lsmod
[00:37] <pvl1> onlty: but, i would still dig in the bios as well
[00:37] <Maytag> No dice, immediately went to same screen
[00:38] <onlty> pvl1: too bad my bios doesnt have many options D:
[00:38] <kseifried> hitsujiTMO, anyways thanks
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> Maytag: dang. out of ideas right now
[00:39] <utusan> Maytag: late here, what exactly is your issue here
[00:39] <Maytag> Sure
[00:39] <Maytag> http://i.imgur.com/0QlNqVz.jpg
[00:39] <Maytag> That, after a seemingly successful 12.04 install, it asked for a restart, I can choose my...kernel? then it goes to that
[00:39] <loki_> I may have tracked down the issue.  maybe.  going to have to force another alert to see.
[00:39] <pvl1> onlty: is kms enabled or disabled
[00:40] <onlty> KMS modesetting enabled.
[00:40] <Maytag> Tried to load a 13.04 install disk but it wouldn't, went right to that screen
[00:40] <Maytag> Tried nomodeset, still goes to that screen
[00:40] <utusan> what is your card?
[00:40] <pvl1> Maytag: can you go back to grub, and hit e to edit, and remove splash
[00:40] <Maytag> I can load to root, cannot connect to my network
[00:41] <Maytag> I did remove quiet splash
[00:41] <Maytag> I believe it's a radeon card, but Windows is wiped at this point. Dell Inspiron 1501
[00:41] <pvl1> at what point does that happen
[00:41] <Maytag> Right after grub
[00:41] <Maytag> If grub means where I can choose normal or recovery mode or memory test
[00:42] <Maytag> Or it goes right there after the bios screen when trying to load the 13.04 disk
[00:42] <utusan> this could be silly, but when you edit the vmlinuz line and just leave nomodeset param, then control+x to boot?
[00:43] <Maytag> http://i.imgur.com/7o21f6M.jpg I did that but with $vt_handoff, and nomodeset
[00:43] <Maytag> No messages
[00:45] <AndroidLoverInSF> avidemux is buggy as heck, on ubuntu and even windows
[00:45] <Maytag> I was getting atmi in Windows Event Viewer, so who knows what's going on with the video card, but it got through the 12.04 install and asked for a reboot
[00:46] <AndroidLoverInSF> is there a stable version besides 2.6.7 or 2.5.6. something in between?
[00:46] <glitsj16> loki_: have you tested by adding a "From: ... " header to the mail command yet?
[00:47] <noideas> Would anyone happen to know why my wireless router would identify 2 NIC with the same MAC address if they are not? (Ubuntu Server 12.04)
[00:49] <loki_> glitsj16: it's working now.  the issue was that I didn't do this : chfn -f 'root at myhost' root for the nagios user.  once I did it and set the display name to what I wanted it to be everything worked fine.
[00:49] <loki_> glitsj16: I have OCD like that sometimes :D
[00:50] <glitsj16> loki_: okay :à
[00:50] <loki_> glitsj16: thanks for the follow up though :D
[00:55] <Maytag> irc://freenode/utusan,isnick Do you mean delete a whole bunch of that line?
[00:55] <Maytag> Man how do I drop down one of your user names
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: is there a virtual machine involved there at all?
[00:56] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: no
[00:56] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: Actually i think it is the router.... everything is being recognized correctly on ubuntu
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: i presume both nics are on the one device or are they on seperate devices?
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> !tab | Maytag
[00:58] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: Same motherboard. I finally decided to configure the second...but my router show the same hardware address :(
[00:58] <Maytag> !ubottu Thanks
[00:58] <Maytag> Haha
[00:58] <Maytag> Clientzilla
[00:58] <uronu> hello guys, do you have an idea on active replicating HD in ubuntu
[00:58] <uronu> ?
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: can you pastebin the output of: ifconfig
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: and: iproute             and: arp                      the arp one may take a bit before it completes
[01:00] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/zZ5gUmpr
[01:02] <Maytag> Okay I have to blow up some stuff on GTA:O thanks for the tries tonight, I may be back!
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: no need to hide the private ips. anyone knowing isn't going to be able to cause problems for you and actually makes it harder to diagnore the issue
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: are both interfaces being supplied by dhcp?
[01:03] <noideas> One is static and plan to make the other static
[01:04] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/KBVE1cdR
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: oh wait. they public ips.
[01:04] <noideas> no
[01:04] <noideas> private
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> so you're using public adress ranges on a private network?
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> 192.96 <- public range
[01:05] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: yes
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: you should change that as that will cause problems for you
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: should be 192.168.X.X
[01:06] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: I have been using this setup for a while, and i provide some simple service that seem to work well.
[01:06] <AndreeeCZ> hello. How do i set up ubuntu to run jack in realtime? I have modified the /etc/security/limits.conf, added realtime lines
[01:07] <AndreeeCZ> added myself to realtime group
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: yes, for the most part it will work. its just if you ever try to connect to an external network that uses 192.96.X.X then you wont be able to make the connection
[01:07] <AndreeeCZ> jack still says operation not permitted
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: can you also pastebin the output of: ip route
[01:08] <OerHeks> noideas, sounds like you have a prof dsl with 8 IP adresses :-D
[01:08] <OerHeks> or 16
[01:08] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/yb1vNvQg
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: ok. and which network is static and which is dynamically assigned?
[01:10] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: 192.96.48.210 <--static
[01:11] <noideas> what to make 192.96.48.206 static but router not seeing the mac correctly
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: and you set a default gateway on that right?
[01:12] <noideas> OerHeks: just curious, what do you mean by prof dsl?
[01:12] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: yes
[01:12] <groovestix> hey folks. I managed to set up vncserver, and I can properly connect to it with VNC Viewer. I notice though that I am not seeing the same screen as Ubuntu, so I am wondering if there's a way to change that?
[01:13] <OerHeks> noideas, business internet
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: which would suggest that right now you have 2 interfaces assigned with a default gateway (to the same default gateway tho) as eth1 would be assigned a default gateway via dhcp
[01:13] <noideas> OerHeks: Actually it is not. :/
[01:14] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: So having the router act as a DHCP is not working
[01:14] <hd> why does this gives result 1? It should be 2. echo "zz" | grep -c "z"
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: its having 2 default gateways could be the problem, as well as having 2 nics on the same lan segment
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: try statically assigning eth1 with no gateway and see if the issue persists. it could also be cause by requests to eth1 being answered by eth0 as its on the same network as was originally assigned as the gateway interface
[01:16] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: that does make sence. I have another machine connected to the same router and that is identified correctly. The only that is the same on my ubuntu server is the name of the system
[01:17] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: oh i get it
[01:17] <advx> Hi all Good Morning
[01:17] <whoever> hi all, need some help, using rhythmbox 3, equalizer is avalible in pugins but how do i get it to show up so that i can chage values
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: what do you want 2 interfaces on the same segment?
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: are you testing some sort of binding or something?
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> derp enough with the nick spam please
[01:18] <hd> :q
[01:19] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: well i would like them to work independently. I was going to use one for a web server and the other for internal file server
[01:21] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: ahh kk.
[01:21] <skinux> I've got menus back now. Thanks to whoever sent me link to classicmenu indicator
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: i'd certain reserve the "non gateway" for the fileserver at least
[01:22] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: hmm... address changed on Ubuntu but now i can not see it on the router
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: its not interacting with the router, which is a good thing.
[01:24] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: oh i see what you did there..i didn't know i could do that
[01:24] <whoever> found it, it took a couple restarts of rhythmbox for it to show up, compont menu item, is now tools
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: the router will only pick up NICs that have interacted with it. it may show up after some broadcasts when you get your services set up
[01:25] <Bray90820> So every time i start ubuntu i get an error with "/sbin/plymouthd"
[01:26] <tiblock> Hi. I try to manage partitions true gparted so i booted from LiveCD ubuntu 12 and he using mine swap partition and i cant delete it. How i can boot without swap?
[01:27] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: hmm...yes i currently have them broadcast on the static route. But it seems like a may be easier to switch some to the new ip address. Cool. Thanks for the help. Still confused about the router not reading the hardware address correctly, but this will work
[01:28] <fabio123> if are u using ubuntu on a intel hd laptop get rid of sna
[01:30] <tiblock> Oh, solved.
[01:31] <Bray90820> Can someone tell me where i can access the archives of this chat
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[01:35] <AndroidLoverInSF> any ideas or blog posts on how to use ffmpeg to both split/cut/merge videos? it seems easy to cut, but i need a way to easily clip out and combine parts of a video, an easy workflow. from what i read.
[01:37] <Minnen> http://askubuntu.com/q/411068/110936
[01:38] <Minnen> oops wrong chan
[01:41] <Roland-> on my server, ubuntu boots with some kind of gui or frame buffer device because the resolution is at max can I disable that ?
[01:42] <whoever> Roland-: so you want to boot tty not gui ?
[01:42] <Bray90820> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[01:53] <Bray90820> So every time i start ubuntu i get an error with "/sbin/plymouthd"
[01:55] <Roland-> whoever sorry for late delay
[01:56] <Roland-> yes boot some text , this gui doesn't work anyway
[01:56] <Roland-> but I have no gui at all
[01:56] <Roland-> so it's a kind of boot animation ?
[01:58] <MK`> Where is invoke-rc.d supposed to be located?
[02:02] <Bray90820> Is there any way i can get a bash script to run on mouse click
[02:09] <MK`> ok I need some help; I'm trying to fix a broken package (grub-common) but when I do I get this slew of errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6823931/
[02:15] <silvea12> maybe try removing avahi-daemon first? I don't know if this is a good idea, or if you will bork your system though...
[02:15] <dominiquenf> good evening everyone
[02:15] <silvea12> night dominiquenf
[02:16] <dominiquenf> can anyone help me with a scprit? I'm trying to fix some issues on my touchpad and I want to run the script while the computer starts, but somehow it's not working properly
[02:16] <dominiquenf> it didn't change the values on my synclient after starting
[02:17] <MK`> silvea12: nvm I managed to fix it. Somehow initrc.d vanished, but I was able to copy the distribution version back to /usr/sbin
[02:17] <silvea12> ok then. Good job!
[02:17] <silvea12> oh wait, it was evening, not night. :P
[02:17] <MK`> first time I've used sudo cp in my life I think.
[02:17] <silvea12> heh
[02:18] <silvea12> I use sudo all the time. I try not to, but I can't avoid it. The amount I mess with my system is nuts... (I don't use it for things that aren't needed though)
[02:18] <MK`> I'm pretty sure it was from a few months ago when I mistyped a command to fix something else
[02:18] <silvea12> sudo cp, mv, chmod, chown, dd, other stuff
[02:19] <silvea12> heh... That'll do it!
[02:26] <mojtaba> Hi, I have encrypted my ubuntu. Does anybody know how can I remove it?
[02:27] <somsip> mojtaba: did you encrypt the whole disk or just the user home?
[02:28] <mojtaba> somsip: The whole disk
[02:28] <somsip> mojtaba: not good news then http://askubuntu.com/questions/245112/can-i-disable-full-disk-encryption
[02:29] <mojtaba> somsip: The problem is that, my hard drive has some bad sectors and I want to replace it. and before that I want to make a disk backup with clone zilla. I am not sure if I can backup an encrypted disk and then restore it on the new one.
[02:30] <somsip> mojtaba: I know nothing about encryption except that there are plenty of people who come here with problems because of using it
[02:30] <mojtaba> somsip: You mean, it is not a good idea to use it?!
[02:31] <tiblock> Is that possible to do dist-upgrade and not killing system and do reinstall. It died on notebook while upgrade from 10 to 12. Then died with 13.04 to 13.10. Died on VMware from 12 to 13 different 4 systems. In VirtualBox died 3 times. Last die is 10 mins ago. It was clean kubuntu just for look at KDE. Upgraded for fun and now its black screen. Anybody in universe succeed at upgrade any version
[02:31] <tiblock> of ubuntu?
[02:31] <dominiquenf> can anyone help? i'm trying to run a script on startup, I've googled it and it appears that i'm doing everything right
[02:32] <advx> bye for now...
 I think you need specify what script and where you start it?
[02:34] <dominiquenf> i've saved it to /etc/init.d, i've chmod 755 it and i've updated-rc.d
[02:34] <dominiquenf> am i missing something:
[02:34] <dominiquenf> am i missing something?
[02:34] <dominiquenf> i've also tried chmod +x
[02:35] <dominiquenf> the script runs ok, but it doesn't run when i start the OS
[02:37] <somsip> dominiquenf: put the script on paste.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <OerHeks> dominiquenf, change owner to root > sudo chown root:root /etc/init.d/<scriptname>
[02:39] <OerHeks> dominiquenf, then set your script to load wint init.d > sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults && sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> enable
[02:39] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/335242/how-to-install-an-init-d-script-in-ubuntu
[02:39] <dominiquenf> it's a very simple script.. it only changes synclient opptions
[02:39] <dominiquenf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6824034/
[02:40] <fun> how I can switch the SSHd listening port to http 80?
[02:40] <somsip> fun: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:40] <fun> ty
[02:40] <silvea12> Why would you want to set it to port 80?
[02:40] <silvea12> just wondering
[02:40] <daftykins> yeah that's kinda... weird.
[02:41] <Guest61578> So, on my plugins for Mozilla Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04, I see that I have Shockwave 12 something. What is the difference between Shockwave and Adobe Flashplayer?
[02:41] <somsip> dominiquenf: I was wondering if you had an ENV or bad path in there, but as long as synclient is in the path for root that should be ok
[02:41] <silvea12> I believe they are made by different companies, and do different things
[02:41] <silvea12> I think it was that anyway
[02:42] <silvea12> That may have not been much help...
[02:42] <fun> will both http and ssh work if they run on same port?
[02:42] <Guest61578> It has the same logo as Adobe Flash Player.
[02:42] <silvea12> nope
[02:42] <fun> ok
[02:43] <tiblock> Guys, where is located file that describes what partitions to mount? You need specify there IDs from "blkid". I dont remember name of file.
[02:43] <Osmodivs> Hello. How do I open the GUI "users and groups" from the Terminal?
[02:43] <somsip> !fstab | tiblock
[02:43] <tiblock> somsip, thank you very much
[02:44] <silvea12> Osmodivs: not sure if you can, but what do you want to do exactly? You can do all the operations just from terminal
[02:45] <tiblock> Osmodivs, i think you need google API for your DE. What DE you use?
[02:45] <fun> but how do I restart ssh when I loged via putty?
[02:45] <fun> :D
[02:45] <Osmodivs> silvea12, for some reason I can't do stuff as an administrator, like, connecto to a WiFi, or instal programs feom a GUI (Synaptic or the LSC) I remember I had the adm box checked, but I want to check, but can't acces via GUI
[02:45] <fun> as it cant do it?
[02:46] <Osmodivs> tiblock, DE?
[02:46] <somsip> fun: sudo service sshd restart. This will disconnect you
[02:46] <Osmodivs> I don't know what that means
[02:46] <silvea12> ok... I think you want to add yourself to the sudo group, or add yourself to the sudoers file...
[02:46] <tiblock> Osmodivs, desktop enviroment. Unity/KDE?
[02:46] <silvea12> Are you able to access an account that can run sudo?
[02:47] <fun> sudo service sshd restart sshd: unrecognized service
[02:47] <fun> yes
[02:47] <fun> sudo service ssh restart ssh stop/waiting ssh start/running, process 1759
[02:47] <dominiquenf> I did enable it with update-rc.d <...> enable, but the script still doesn`t starts with the computer
[02:47] <tiblock> Osmodivs, is that Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Xubuntu or ... ?
[02:47] <Osmodivs> tiblock, Sorry, I thought I was in the Lubuntu channel :P
[02:47] <Osmodivs> but, hey, silvea12 How do I know what are my groups?
[02:48] <silvea12> groups
[02:48] <silvea12> in terminal
[02:48] <silvea12> no sudo
[02:48] <Osmodivs> silvea12, osmodivs adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin netdev sambashare
[02:49] <silvea12> You are in the sudo group... so it's not an access rights issue
[02:49] <Osmodivs> silvea12, You see, theres gotta be something else, a corrupt file perhaps?
[02:49] <Osmodivs> oh.
[02:49] <tiblock> Osmodivs, google says Lubuntu (LXDE) doesnt have GUI for that. Google "lxde users and groups" and chose your solution.
[02:50] <fun> I fcked it
[02:50] <fun> now it wont connect at all
[02:50] <fun> :d
[02:50] <fun> on new port 222
[02:50] <FloodBot1> fun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <joshlegs> so im having several really frustrating issues after doing an aptitude update/safe-upgrade. none of my hotkeys/custom shortcuts work and when searching for programs, the icons dont show up. also wifi doesnt work. ive searched a bit online but cant find a solution. helps?
[02:50] <AlecTaylor> hi
[02:51] <silvea12> fun - if you can get physical access, try sudo iptables --flush
[02:51] <tiblock> Osmodivs, http://askubuntu.com/questions/156838/how-to-change-user-account-settings-with-lxde
[02:51] <Osmodivs> tiblock, Well, I already have gnome-system-tools. I just want to open it via Terminal, to see if I can fix some groups in my accpont
[02:51] <AlecTaylor> My computer is crashing with no warning (from logged-in and working to power off in ~1 second). How do I troubleshoot?
[02:52] <fun> I am using ec2 silvea12
[02:52] <fun> whole idea was to change default ssh port as they filter upload speeds on it
[02:52] <kcah> hello every one~
[02:52] <silvea12> yeah... well now ya borked it... :P
[02:52] <somsip> fun: then you have to recreate the instance from the snapshot you created, or from the AMI if you have no snapshot
[02:52] <Osmodivs> It is: sudo users-admin
[02:52] <silvea12> Useful thing to try for a failsafe next time: before you do, have a script on a timer in a screen to reset the settings
[02:53] <kcah> i have a noob questions here about ssh... can any one help me?
[02:53] <silvea12> if it works, kill the process
[02:53] <somsip> !ask | kcah
[02:53] <silvea12> if it doesn't, itll fix it
[02:53] <fun> somsip:  but why I just changed port
[02:53] <silvea12> but... too late for that now
[02:53] <fun> what have I done wrong?
[02:53] <somsip> fun: you did it wrong. Or you just haven't poked a hole to the new port in your securty group...
[02:53] <fun> somsip:  I did 100% what people said there
[02:53] <fun> changed port to 222 and open firewall
[02:54] <somsip> fun: don't whinge. Fix your security group
[02:54] <kcah> i have a jump server on my network... it does not have X server... can i still use the jump server to do a X session on other machines on that network?
[02:54] <joshlegs> my problem is similar to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183110  but also my built-in volume buttons dont work
[02:54] <joshlegs> and i cant seem to reinstall from usb (goes right to desktop)
[02:54] <fun> somsip: its done
[02:54] <glitsj16> dominiquenf: a question .. being synclient commands, why not run them in an autostart .desktop file? or do you need them in the login screen?
[02:54] <fun> so what else can I try?
[02:54] <silvea12> AlecTaylor: Try booting a live CD, chroot into your HDD, and checking dmesg output
[02:54] <silvea12> check for kernal errors
[02:54] <somsip> fun: recreate the instance from your backup or from the AMI.
[02:54] <silvea12> and fix it from the live CD
[02:55] <fun> somsip: but then I simply do same mistake lol
[02:55] <fun> thats why its better I find a way to fix it now
[02:55] <Osmodivs> I am in the sudo group and still can't connect to a WiFi: (32) Not authorized to control networking.
[02:55] <somsip> fun: I can't help you any more.
[02:55] <dominiquenf> glitsj16, how i do that?
[02:55] <Beldar> joshlegs, Similar to is not a good start here, you want to be exact, and explain the usb reinstall in details.
[02:55] <fun> somsip: ok ty
[02:56] <glitsj16> dominiquenf: which option exactly?
[02:56] <dominiquenf> glitsj16, how do i do that?
[02:56] <silvea12> Osmodivs: try adding yourself to the netdev group
[02:56] <dominiquenf> the one you said about autostart.desktop
[02:56] <joshlegs> Beldar: none of my default hotkeys work (vlume up, down) and my custom shortcuts dont either (ctrl-alt-t for terminal, meta-up for maximize)
[02:56] <dominiquenf> glitsj16,  the one you said about autostart.desktop
[02:56] <endofcake> Hey, how do I open ports on Ubuntu?
[02:56] <fun> endofcake:  use aws
[02:57] <fun> they got nice firewall there
[02:57] <Osmodivs> silvea12, I am aalready in the netdev group
[02:57] <silvea12> oh right
[02:57] <fun> endofcake:  by default all ports are open
[02:57] <Osmodivs> silvea12, I tell you, must be a Linux virus
[02:57] <glitsj16> dominiquenf: okay, you use the "startup applications" app, once you're in there it will show a few fields where you enter name and location of the script
[02:57] <fun> u need to edit silly text file by hand
[02:57] <fun> or use aws
[02:57] <silvea12> Osmodivs: I don't know about that...
[02:57] <Beldar> joshlegs, Cool, to the channel I can't really help, I was just concerned you are not lost in here. State the usb relation top this if there is one.
[02:57] <Beldar> to*
[02:57] <somsip> fun: if you are going to stay in here and offer advice, please try to be helpful
[02:57] <Osmodivs> silvea12, Badware, then.
[02:58] <joshlegs> ok thanks Beldar. no the usb isnt related. i think im just having a crapton of problems right now :(
[02:58] <silvea12> Osmodivs: I think it may just be a wierd perms issue
[02:58] <endofcake> Thanks fun. I did nmap on my install, and it only shows a handful of open ports, which may be a cause of Couchbase not working properly.
[02:58] <Ziber> So, my computer forgot how to interact with my mouse. I can move it just fine, but can't click on anything. Any thoughts on why?
[02:58] <fun> somsip: I have him excellent advice that works 100%
[02:58] <fun> ;)
[02:58] <silvea12> Is this in a log, or when you run it?
[02:58] <silvea12> and what do you run?
[02:58] <Beldar> joshlegs, Cool just be careful to approach one at a time within reason is all. ;)
[02:58] <fun> endofcake: all rules as to which ports open or closed are in 1 file
[02:58] <fun> iptables
[02:58] <somsip> !joke | SunTsu
[02:58] <Ziber> In Chrome and terminal, so far. I can click to switch back and forth between these apps, but nothing within them.
[02:58] <fun> somsip: thats u
[02:58] <fun> gave me advice that does not work
[02:58] <fun> ;)
[02:59] <somsip> SunTsu: clearly not meant for you
[02:59] <endofcake> nmap localhost (or my IP)
[02:59] <fun> one sec endofcake
[02:59] <fun> some many geeks dont understand that not all humans are geeks
[02:59] <glitsj16> dominiquenf: i forgot you need to press the "add" button first, but you got that by now probably :)
[03:00] <fun> endofcake: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-a-firewall-using-ip-tables-on-ubuntu-12-04
[03:00] <fun> here
[03:00] <fun> see if it makes sense
[03:00] <somsip> fun: confirm to me again that you have allowed access to the new port in the security group that is associated with the instance you've just changed
[03:00] <fun> yes I did
[03:00] <fun> well ok I create new instance and see whats in sshd config
[03:01] <fun> I tried reboot same
[03:01] <endofcake> Ok, I don't exactly need I firewall, I just need to make sure that certain ports are open. Is there a way to check this?
[03:01] <somsip> fun: if you edit sshd_config correctly and have allowed access through the security group, there is no reason why it should not work. I do this on my AWS instances. So you have to accept the possibility of your error.
[03:01] <somsip> endofcake: for what service?
[03:02] <endofcake> I'm guessing nmap doesn't show me the whole story. i just want to eliminate ports as the source of my problem and move on
[03:02] <fun> :P
[03:02] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[03:02] <fun> lol somsip u are some geek
[03:02] <fun> who cares whose error is it
[03:02] <fun> main thing it works lol
[03:02] <somsip> !ignore | fun
[03:02] <endofcake> For Couchbase. It needs ports 11211, 11210, 11209, 4369,8091, 8092 and from 21100 to 21299
[03:03] <carrera> can anyone tell me as of which version did Ubuntu changed the init process and WHY?
[03:03] <glitsj16> dominiquenf: if you want the synclient commands to be active in the login screen there's a way to do that too, isn't much work but i don't know if you want/need it there as well
[03:03] <somsip> endofcake: and what it preventing these from being accessed?
[03:04] <endofcake> I'm not sure anything is, I'm just trying to add another server to my cluster and it fails. So I need to eliminate networking issues as the source of this problem
[03:04] <rcw2> what do the three numbers at the end of this linerepresent in xinput --set-prop [device number] "Synaptics Finger" 50 80 257
[03:05] <Beldar> carrera, Are you aware this is support, and not actually tied to canonical and it's decisions on ubuntu?
[03:05] <fun> endofcake: simply edit text tile and add new ports
[03:05] <fun> type sudo iptables -L
[03:05] <fun> and see rules
[03:06] <somsip> endofcake: output of netstat -lnptu show anything helpful?
[03:06] <fun> u can set rules to default means all ports open by sudo iptables -F
[03:06] <fun> :)
[03:06] <pietro10> Hi. I have a late 2006 intel iMac; I have tried, and I am trying to at least get the LiveUSB to work. I got as far as setting up an installed system and attempting to boot it with rEFIt, but the EFI firmware threw a fit and wouldn't boot in legacy mode. I tried EFI boot ,but rEFInd wouldn't start. Now: is there a way I can boot the LiveCD image over the network with an ethernet cable? I have no way to burn discs at the present time. Thanks.
[03:06] <somsip> !upstart | carrera (may have some leads for you to follow up)
[03:06] <carrera> Beldar, kind of... thanks.  My question was purely technical
[03:06] <OerHeks> carrera, @ 9.10 >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[03:08] <carrera> somsip, OerHeks, thanks!  :)
[03:08] <endofcake> Ok, thanks, no rules in iptables, moving on.
[03:08] <somsip> endofcake: might it be limited by your host company in any way?
[03:09] <kcah> Hello cannot do ssh x to a host with a jump server without x server?
[03:13] <LinuxAtSchool_> i <3 ubuntu && apache2 && virtualhost!! :D goodnight
[03:18] <NictraSavios> Hello, I can't seem to get Ubuntu to find my network printer. The printer is configured correctly, and is on 192.168.1.21, but Ubuntu does not find it.
[03:19] <eric> hi all
[03:20] <b0x> NictraSavios: can you ping it?
[03:22] <NictraSavios> b0x, Hmm, no ... but, this is weird. I ping 1.21, but get a response from 1.24.  "PING 192.168.1.21 (192.168.1.21) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:22] <NictraSavios> From 192.168.1.24 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable" and then "From 192.168.1.24 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable"
[03:22] <b0x> whats .24
[03:22] <NictraSavios> 192.168.1.24 - And should be nothing. I'll nmap and see
[03:23] <b0x> if u cant ping the printer then its pretty obvious why ubuntu cant find ur printer though ;)
[03:23] <iFlip> NictraSavios: 1.24 should be you
[03:23] <NictraSavios> iFlip, Ahh, really? Thank you.
[03:24] <b0x> you running a firewall
[03:24] <b0x> or something
[03:24] <iFlip> NictraSavios: sarcasm ... :)
[03:24] <iFlip> lol
[03:24] <Guest69148> Guys, I have exact problem for an older machine. I don't see the answer for it. Will you help me? kubuntu.com/questions/372584/i-cant-get-online-video-to-work-correctly-see-screen-caps#comment476238_372584
[03:25] <NictraSavios> b0x, No firewall, haven't set one up yet.
[03:25] <dominiquenf> 16
[03:26] <dominiquenf> thanks for the idea about using the command on startup application... it worked
[03:26] <iFlip> its like watching two blind mice humping in a sock
[03:26] <codepython7771> E: Package 'python-qt4-gl' has no installation candidate -sources.list = deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main universe
[03:26] <codepython7771> what am i doing wrong?
[03:27] <daftykins> Guest69148: what's the graphics hardware?
[03:27] <Guest69148> what do you mean by that?
[03:28] <fun> helo
[03:28] <fun> # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for Port 22
[03:28] <Guest69148> I don't have that machine hooked up right now.
[03:28] <fun> is that the line to change ssh port?
[03:28] <NictraSavios> fun, SSH
[03:28] <fun> ssh yes
[03:29] <fun> what about it?
[03:29] <daftykins> Guest69148: intel, nvidia, AMD - the make of graphics hardware
[03:29] <fun> I want to switch sshd listening port
[03:29] <Guest69148> hummm    don't know. the machine was given to me. How do i found that info?
[03:29] <daftykins> fun: no, a line with # at the start is a comment
[03:30] <daftykins> Guest69148: run "lspci" from a terminal and pastebin it here ideally
[03:30] <fun> blah
[03:30] <fun> #/etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:30] <fun> there is port 22 last time I changed it and restarted I could not log in
[03:30] <fun> even do firewall allows for new port
[03:30] <fun> ok I got it
[03:31] <Guest69148> o.k. I'll do that later. I just was looking online for help. I don't have that desktop hooked to a monitor and internet right now. I'll get back with you guys with that.
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> codepython7771: enable universe branch
[03:31] <Guest69148> I forget how to pastebin. Is there a command for that?
[03:32] <somsip> !paste | Guest69148
[03:32] <codepython7771> hitsujiTMO:  i was just missing a apt-get update
[03:35] <Guest69148> so do I put in the terminal      paste | lspci           ?
[03:35] <zcat[1]> using ubuntu studio. Every time I boot all the sounds devices come up in order. Only solution I've found so fat that works is just keep rebooting and rebooting until I fluke them the right way around for how all the software is set up. Or reconfigure everything for the new random order every time I reboot.
[03:35] <zcat[1]> *far
[03:37] <zcat[1]> I did try to follow a howto about udev, but it doesn't seem to be that. I also found a howto for alsa. It seems that ubuntu allows for devices to be randomly reassinged at every possible layer of abstraction.
[03:37] <zcat[1]> I'm fast coming to the conclusion that someone in the development chain is just doing this to fuck with everyone
[03:37] <somsip> !language | zcat[1]
[03:38] <zcat[1]> I'm frustrated.
[03:38] <zcat[1]> I've been using linux since 1997, and this is about as close as I've ever got to just giving up and switching to Windows
[03:38] <zcat[1]> and nobody seems the least bit ineterestif in helping
[03:39] <Noskcaj> !patience
[03:39] <zcat[1]> yeah, nobody knows
[03:39] <Noskcaj> perhaps try asking on askubuntu or #ubuntustudio
[03:40] <zcat[1]> no answers ther etieher
[03:41] <Noskcaj> remember this is the time most people are asleep, so maybe try again later?
[03:41] <Beldar> zcat[1], I think we all understand frustration, but this is a no swearing channel please.
[03:41] <zcat[1]> it doesn't really matter when I ask, I've been trying to figure this out for months now
[03:41] <zcat[1]> I've mssed ub ubuntu studio and just reinstalled three times so far
[03:42] <zcat[1]> next time I just give up and switch to windows
[03:42] <zcat[1]> and I will write a very long blog about how utterly Linux is failing
[03:42] <zcat[1]> from the perspective of someone who's used linux their entire life and finally been driven to use Windows
[03:43] <zcat[1]> I really don't want to do that
[03:43] <whoever> trying to set a keyboard shortcut , under keyboard , and the command is /usr/bin/top . and when i hit the shortcutkey i set top is not executing , but top will execute if i type it in term
[03:43] <daftykins> zcat[1]: surely there's SOMEONE out there that uses it for the same things as you do
[03:43] <zcat[1]> apparently nobody else in the entire world uses ubuntu studio with more than one sound device
[03:43] <zcat[1]> or they all just reconfigure it every time the reboot? who knows ...
[03:44] <daftykins> i take it studio comes without pulseaudio?
[03:44] <zcat[1]> It uses everything layer after layer and every layer seems to like randomly assigning the order of devices
[03:44] <zcat[1]> udev does, alsa does, pulse does, and then jack sits on top and has no idea what is what
[03:45] <zcat[1]> it's a complete mess
[03:45] <Minnen> [question] how can i change my wireless protocol from IEEE 802.11 b/g/n to IEEE 802.11 b/g using the terminal?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> zcat[1]: You can probably assign a device name with a udev rule.
[03:46] <zcat[1]> Jordan_U, did that
[03:46] <idaniel> http://askubuntu.com/questions/372584/i-cant-get-online-video-to-work-correctly-see-screen-caps#comment476238_372584                                 *This is exactly my problem on another desktop that I can't hook up right now. I just want to find the answer to this question, being it's exactly my problem.
[03:46] <daftykins> zcat[1]: well, i don't understand enough to help sadly. but i'd imagine an askubuntu.com post or a forum thread describing your situation would be better than being here complaining (with my respect)
[03:46] <Jordan_U> zcat[1]: So what is your current problem?
[03:46] <glitsj16> whoever: you'll need to give a command to the shortcut that will open a terminal window and executes the top command
[03:47] <daftykins> idaniel: yeah you asked that before, you've not pasted the requested info yet though
[03:47] <zcat[1]> Jordan_U, every time I boot ubuntu studio all the sound devices are in a different random order from last time so nothing ever works
[03:48] <idaniel> daftykins, I can't get to that desktop right now.  Maybe I should wait until I get it all hooked up. I guess it's not fair if you don't know it's inards. I'll get back to you guys maybe tomorrow when I can get it up and running. Sorry.
[03:48] <daftykins> idaniel: it does make problem solving somewhat tougher ;)
[03:49] <idaniel> k     I'll get to you later when I can hook the thing up. thanks anyway.
[03:49] <zcat[1]> and it seems to be a layer above udev ... I think I managed to get it to assign them stattically at that later
[03:49] <zcat[1]> I also found a howto for making alsa assign devices in a particular order which also didn't make any difference\
[03:49] <zcat[1]> and now it's just really making me angry
[03:51] <zcat[1]> every time I start up I just keep rebooting until the devices all come up how jack wants to work with them but this is just stupid!
[03:51] <zcat[1]> and it's so damn slow to boot too
[03:52] <zcat[1]> at the moment I don't have a 'pulseaudio sink' so I can't play stuff in the browser and record from it or mix it at all
[03:53] <greeter> zcat[1] i've found that audacity can do that if you set the input channel properly, and i don't have pulseaudio installed
[03:54] <zcat[1]> greeter, when it's working properly I can record to ardour, mixer on one track, qsynth (midi keyboard) on another track, music from the web on a third ...
[03:54] <zcat[1]> can I do that in audacity ..
[03:54] <zcat[1]> ?
[03:55] <greeter> hmm that i've never tried to tell you the truth :-S
[03:55] <zcat[1]> Well it works fine here, I just have to reboot eight times unti all the sound devices fluke the right order
[03:56] <zcat[1]> and then try not to boot again for as long as possible
[03:56] <zcat[1]> when it works it's really good.. I just want it to come up working on every reboot
[03:56] <nobody08> battery indicator missing from 'Indicator plugin' Ubuntu 12.04... please help
[03:58] <greeter> ah i see
[03:58] <NictraSavios> nobody08, I had this issue with an ex's computer,  I found the solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148971/battery-indicator-missing-ubuntu-12-04
[03:59] <greeter> i don't know much about using sound on linux. i like to set it and forget it. it's why i usually uninstall pulseaudio
[03:59] <enneract> Is there a way to install a package from a previous release? For example, I need the package libglew1.8 on trusty, but it does not exist yet - can I force apt-get to grab the saucy version~
[03:59] <somsip> enneract: trusty is in beta. Support in #ubuntu+1, but the answer is no
 thanks.. let me try
[04:01] <enneract> somsip: it isn't a trusty-specific question, I could as well be asking how to get a quantal package on saucy :D Either way... there really isn't a way to do this? I was able to do it to an entire PPA by editing the .list file, there is no way for a single package?
[04:01] <nobody08> NictraSavios, tried that already... no luck..
[04:01] <diuneigh> can anyone help me with Xchat for ubuntu?
[04:02] <somsip> enneract: if you were using a non-beta release, it might have all of the missing files you need. PPAs are different from official packages, and end answer is still "no" AFAIK
[04:03] <enneract> sadly, the non-beta release doesn't work with my hardware.
[04:07] <Ronie> diuneigh: what's the problem with xchat in ubuntu?
[04:08] <diuneigh> Ronie: I'm trying to set it up like Mirc in Windows.  I need to do a dccserver command and open up a port.  I don't know how to do it in xchat.  Any ideas?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> enneract: Ask in #ubuntu+1 for problems with a beta release, or install a stable release and ask here about how to solve the hardware support problems you're having.
[04:09] <NictraSavios> nobody08, Sorry, I'm not sure how to help you then. Maybe someone else will
[04:09] <Ronie> diuneigh: Mirc and xchat are little different than each other. some features of mirc may be not in xchat.
[04:10] <diuneigh> Ronie:  yes, I know that.  I need to open a port in xchat like I did previously in mirc.  Any ideas?
[04:11] <nobody08> the battery indicator missing from the 'Indicator Plugin' on my Ubuntu 12.10LTS, after i configured it to Xfce Desktop...
[04:11] <nobody08> NictraSavios ... thanks though.
[04:12] <Jef91> are .conf files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d loaded automatically in 12.04?
[04:12] <Ronie> diuneigh:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115061
[04:12] <nobody08> Xfce looks great... just made it look like Windows 7
[04:12] <Ronie> it can help ypu.
[04:12] <Ronie> you
[04:13] <diuneigh> Ronie,  I'll read that.  Thanks!
[04:13] <Ronie> no problem
[04:14] <oots_> Glass windows
[04:16] <Beldar> I've fallen and my linux looks like windows
[04:17] <nobody08> can anyone help to fix the missing battery indicator ... Ubuntu 12.10 with Xfce .
[04:19] <Ronie> Beldar: in lxde u can have icons like my documents and my computer, like u have in windows
[04:19] <diuneigh> Ronie:  didn't solve the problem.  I need to set it to 6060 so I can access an Fserve
[04:19] <glitsj16> nobody08: just a question .. are you using the xfce panel or the unity panel?
[04:20] <Beldar> Ronie, Hmm if I want windows icons I boot my W8.1
[04:21] <nobody08> xfce4-panel 4.8.6 panel..
[04:21] <nobody08> glitsj16: any idea?
[04:22] <Beldar> Ronie, I'm not a hard core linux user, I started on open source however every OS has a use, bragging here on making your ubuntu look like windows is well a bit strange is all.
[04:22] <glitsj16> nobody08: okay, i think most people who read your question probably assumed the unity panel, might be different packages involved .. you have the xfce4-battery-plugin installed?
[04:23] <lucasredsn0w> nobody08: Have you installed all plugins?
[04:23] <nobody08> let me check...
[04:23] <lucasredsn0w> nobody08: Using XChat 2.8.8 on Ubuntu?
[04:24] <nobody08> yeah ... using xchat.
[04:25] <lucasredsn0w> nobody08: I use Quassel IRC, compiled by myself
[04:25] <lucasredsn0w> nobody08: I love "making" softwares (./configure && make && make install)
[04:25] <nobody08> i am a linux newbei..
[04:26] <lucasredsn0w> nobody08: I've used linux for nearly 2 years, but I'm still not very good  at it.
[04:26] <lucasredsn0w> I just simply "use" linux
[04:26] <nobody08> can you show me how to find out  ... if  xfce4-battery-plugin  is installed.
[04:27] <darin> Where is the proper place to inquire about a technical issue with Ubuntu
[04:27] <lucasredsn0w> Use "Software Center"
[04:27] <Beldar> darin, This is support
[04:27] <glitsj16> nobody08: apt-cache policy xfce4-battery-plugin  .. will tell you
[04:27] <lucasredsn0w> I need to restart X
[04:27]  * lucasredsn0w restarting
[04:27] <nobody08> thanks
[04:28] <darin> Cool, I have a few questions , I wanted to test the new KDE Ubuntu but can't seem to access the wireless drivers. I'm hoping that I can work through a linux version with proper wireless drivers
[04:28] <nobody08> nope ....
[04:29] <nobody08> not installed
[04:29] <Beldar> darin, run in the terminal lspci and find the wifi info and share it with the channel.
[04:29] <glitsj16> nobody08: so let's hope the issue will be fixed once you install that and add it to the panel
[04:29] <darin> cool
[04:30] <lucasredsn0w> nobody08, I'm back
[04:30] <Beldar> darin, Are you in a live session as of now?
[04:30] <nobody08> glistsj16: is that using "sudo apt-get install  xfce4-battery-plugin " command?
[04:31] <darin> darin@darin-Inspiron-1520:~$ lspci
[04:31] <darin> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
[04:31] <darin> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 0c)
[04:31] <darin> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
[04:31] <darin> 00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
[04:31] <FloodBot1> darin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <darin> 00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
[04:31] <glitsj16> nobody08: exactly
[04:31] <cowtoe> eggsactly & bacon
[04:31] <cowtoe> cos breakfast
[04:31] <cowtoe> but i aint gotno bacon
[04:31] <cowtoe> :(
[04:31] <FloodBot1> cowtoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <rww> cowtoe: something we can help you with?
[04:31] <Beldar> darin, just the wifi, you can pastbin all of it.
[04:31] <nobody08> thanks
[04:31] <cowtoe> no
[04:31] <cowtoe> i will fade away
[04:31]  * cowtoe disappears
[04:32] <rww> cowtoe: then please leave the channel clear for support, thanks :)
[04:32] <darin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6824371/
[04:33] <darin> I'm running elementary OS but have Kubuntu 13 installed without wireless on a different partition
[04:33] <nobody08> just done that... do i have to reboot the system?
[04:34] <Beldar> darin, You on a live session, broadcom is supported, however elementary OS is not here.
[04:34] <glitsj16> nobody08: no reboot needed .. if i remember you might need to right-click on the panel and there should appear a menu entree to add a plugin
[04:34] <nobody08> thanks.
[04:35] <kcah> http://serverfault.com/questions/53080/how-to-enable-ssh-x11-forwarding-through-additional-server
[04:35] <darin> Yes, I'm hoping to port the drivers somehow since I was able to hardwire the drivers with ethernet / sudo commands earlier
[04:37] <Roland-> how can I configure startup scripts on latest ubuntu ?
[04:37] <somsip> !upstart | Roland-
[04:37] <darin> I'm trying to configure the wireless from a working kernal and am wanting to load the wifi drivers **somehow** to a newly installed Kubuntu on a different partition
[04:38] <nobody08> glistsj16:  Thank you so much... it works.
[04:38] <glitsj16> nobody08: you're welcome :)
[04:39] <Roland-> The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart
[04:39] <Roland-> job, but disable is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[04:40] <Roland-> I cannot disable services as I can see
[04:41] <Roland-> damn
[04:41] <diuneigh> can anyone help me set up xchat to open port 6060?
[04:41] <glitsj16> Roland-: too disable services from autostarting you need an override file .. sudo sh -c "echo 'manual' > /etc/init/SERVICE.override" (exchange SERVICE with the correct name of what you need)
[04:43] <Roland-> sound complicated
[04:43] <Roland-> better leave it bloatware full.
[04:43] <darin> Ok, I used this process to install drivers on this currently working (with wireless kernal). I'd like to somehow port these to a disk and install the wifi drivers
[04:43] <darin> Look here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/Broadcom_bcm43xx
[04:43] <glitsj16> Roland-: it's one command, just use the name of the service you want to stop from starting at boot
[04:44] <Roland-> ok
[04:44] <darin> hmmm
[04:46] <Beldar> !broadcom | darin for the kubuntu
[04:46] <Roland-> ok, let's see how it works
[04:47] <Beldar> darin, Heh,  missed you posted that link.
[04:47] <glitsj16> Roland-: example .. sudo sh -c "echo 'manual' > /etc/init/mysql.override" will stop mysql from starting .. you can use GUI too: gksudo gedit .. make a new file with only the word 'manual' and save it in the correct location (/etc/init/mysql.override to stay with the example)
[04:48] <Roland-> yep
[04:48] <Roland-> seems to work
[04:48] <Roland-> but how can i get a list of services configured to start at boot?
[04:49] <glitsj16> Roland-: nice, if you want to enable the service again later, just remove the override file
[04:52] <glitsj16> Roland-: use "sudo initctl list"
[04:53] <nobody08> wallpaper slide-show on Xfce .... any suggestion?
[04:53] <nobody08> Wallch wouldn't work on Xfce..
[04:56] <pankomax> hi gays....
[04:57] <darin> My wireless issue can be solved using the following terminal commands  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/Broadcom_bcm43xx
[04:59] <darin> How can I install the drivers with a USB Drive and port them over to do a manual install (since I don't have wireless  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/Broadcom_bcm43xx
[05:02] <glitsj16> nobody08: have you tried wally yet?
[05:02] <Jordan_U> darin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[05:03] <nobody08> let me try... thanks
[05:08] <brewmaster619> Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting why my system will entirely freeze (except the mouse) about once a week?
[05:08] <brewmaster619> I'm a semi-n00b
[05:10] <glitsj16> brewmaster619: when it happens, looking at the logs would be a starting point
[05:12] <brewmaster619> not seeing anythign in the logs that lloks unusual so far, but dont' know exactly which to concentrate on, and don't necessarily know what is "good" or "bad" when I look at it.
[05:12] <glitsj16> first thing i thought when i read the question was a big cronjob, like a backup job or something, just a thought
[05:13] <glitsj16> but that would be repeating on a very stable pattern i suppose, it's not every week? :)
[05:15] <diuneigh> how to do a "plug and play" with MyBook in ubuntu 12.04?
[05:16] <brewmaster619> no, it's not consistent; have had it happen twice in one day, but that was about a month ago.  Just happenend about 10 minutes agao.
[05:16] <glitsj16> brewmaster619: when it happens you can try 'top' or 'htop' to find what processes are possible culprits ..
[05:18] <ryan_turner|MTW> Having trouble where ubuntu desktop 13.10 is not adding default route for my eth1... how can I troubleshoot that?
[05:18] <ryan_turner|MTW> Network operates fine for all other machines on network, including an ubuntu 12.04 server and numerous windows 8/7 machines
[05:19] <ryan_turner|MTW> (AKA every reboot I have to do sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.254)
[05:19] <brewmaster619> can't run anything, I don't think even if a terminal is open.  So far, the only thing that's continued to operate is the mouse, and it moves fine; just can't actually click on anything
[05:20] <glitsj16> brewmaster619: yeah, difficult to track down i guess .. probably swapping like crazy
[05:21] <brewmaster619> I dunno, I have 8 GB ram, and the HD isn't super quit...I didn't notice swapping, though I'm not ruling it out.
[05:30] <ryan_turner|MTW> Any ideas for my 13.10 desktop that for some reason isn't getting network settings properly? It adds an internal route fine, but does not add a route for internets. I have to manually add one via  sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.254
[05:42] <adrian> hi
[05:44] <Ronie> adrian: hello
[05:44] <Guest16490> i have a PC with dual monitor(one DVI and Display Port) , but one of it ( on Display Port ) don't come up , any fix to that? ATI HD7650 / ubuntu 13.10
[05:45] <Adrian0079> i have a PC with dual monitor(one DVI and Display Port) , but one of it ( on Display Port ) don't come up , any fix to that? ATI HD7650 / ubuntu 13.10
[05:46] <Adrian0079> i have a PC with dual monitor(one DVI and Display Port) , but one of it ( on Display Port ) don't come up , any fix to that? ATI HD7650 / ubuntu 13.10, also i can see both monitors on ubuntu "Display" setting .
[05:47] <hateball> !repeat | Adrian0079
[05:52] <navneet> #mysql
[05:53] <navneet> how do find channel list
[05:53] <frank604_> how to copy url from urlgrab in weechat?
[05:55] <somsip> !alis | navneet
[05:56] <karven> Anybody online?
[05:58] <babinlonston> Hi All, Is there any open source proxy or firewall to restrict some website in our office ? Except Squid
[06:01] <Tuck_C_Dough> is there a better dock than cairo?
[06:02] <gr33n7007h> Tuck_C_Dough, Docky
[06:02] <Tuck_C_Dough> benefits?
[06:02] <navneet> !alis
[06:02] <gr33n7007h> better interface, customisation etc
[06:03] <gr33n7007h> My opinion
[06:03] <Tuck_C_Dough> kk. ty
[06:03] <gr33n7007h> puts cairo to shame
[06:30] <zer0s> http://pastebin.com/QWKntzC0
[06:30] <zer0s>  i think there's something wrong with my ddclient conf because i was able to CNAME an old dns address i was using
[06:31] <phatso> I was looking for an ubuntu 10.04 liveCD and only found a live DVD. Then I found a liveCD for 10.04 SERVER. Does one for a desktop exist? I'm trying to recover a system that has lost the boot and bin directories.
[06:32] <phatso> All I see are server CDs here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[06:33] <SonikkuAmerica> phatso: Why can't you use a 12.04 image?
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> phatso: 10.04 desktop is end of life and no longer supported so you wont find a cd around
[06:35] <phatso> SonikkuAmerica: would the 12.04 CD be compatible with my remaining lucid binaries?
[06:35] <phatso> hitsujiTMO: all I need to do is recover the files in /bin and /boot
[06:36] <SonikkuAmerica> phatso: You could see if it would upgrade the whole SYSTEM while you're at it...
[06:36] <phatso> I don't want to upgrade the system, I already installed a new system and wanted to run that old disk drive inside virtualbox
[06:37] <phatso> but would the serv server CD have the /bin binaries and the correct kernels to repair my crashed system?
[06:40] <SonikkuAmerica> phatso: If you really need a 10.04 CD, <<NOTE: THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED AT ALL!>> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/
[06:41] <rww> lolwat
[06:41] <rww> you people, i swear
[06:41] <rww> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/
[06:42] <SonikkuAmerica> rww: Ah, that's where it is.
[06:42] <phatso> SonikkuAmerica: I don;t see any iso images there
[06:42] <SonikkuAmerica> phatso: See rww's link
[06:43] <SonikkuAmerica> rww: Also, I am a sworn person. Thanks for reaffirming that. :)
[06:43] <Kartagis> how do I disable the status notification applet?
[06:43] <phatso> Oh yes there it is. I don't know why I was told I wouldn't find it
[06:44] <Rosbuntu> can not send or recieve files from my android phone in ubuntu
[06:44] <Rosbuntu> im using blueman
[06:44] <Rosbuntu> can anyone help me with this
[06:47] <phatso> Judging by the "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release i386 (20100427.1" in my sources.lst it seems I must have installed from the alternate CD
[06:48] <Rosbuntu> can not send or recieve files from my android phone in ubuntu
[06:51] <SonikkuAmerica> phatso: So? Use the live image to fix it
[06:51] <phatso> So if I install using that lucid CD, during the install would it find and install the latest kernels or would I have to do that later
[06:52] <phatso> I suppose that alternate-install CD has a liveCD option
[06:52] <phatso> and I boot that in rescue mode?
[06:56] <phatso> ok so I used the mini.iso to boot into a rescue environment, I mounted /target and populated /target/bin with the binaries from /bin
[06:56] <phatso> how can I use apt to populate /boot and /boot/grub with a working kernel, any ideas?
[06:57] <Ben64> phatso: this is not the correct location to be seeking help with an outdated version of ubuntu
[06:58] <aegisx> Is there a Linux alternative to Microsoft OneNote, by any chance?
[06:58] <phatso> Ben64: this could be a valid question for any distro. I guess I need the apt- command that repairs packages. First order of business is to restore bash
[06:59] <Kartagis> how do I disable the status notification applet?
[06:59] <nobody08>  /msg NickServ identify adaedward
[07:00] <Ben64> phatso: the bottom line is, if you want support here, you have to be using a supported release. 12.04 or 13.10 is suggested, as 13.04 is losing support very soon
[07:01] <Tuck_C_Dough> i thought 12.04 LTS was being supported until 2017
[07:01] <phatso> ok...so if I download a mini.iso for 12.04 would I be able to repair the kernels?
[07:01] <BlackDalek> This isn't strictly an Ubuntu question - it's a Wine for linux question... but can anyone remind me... how do I launch Steam in Wine from the command line so that it opens in a virtual desktop environment?
[07:01] <Tuck_C_Dough> Blackdalek - i use playonlinux for the GUI behind wine
[07:02] <Ben64> Tuck_C_Dough: 12.04 is supported until 2017
[07:03] <Tuck_C_Dough> but you are saying 13.04 is losing support?
[07:03] <Ben64> 13.04 isn't 12.04...
[07:03] <rww> 12.04 *Server* is supported until 2017 because it's an LTS
[07:03] <rww> 13.04 is not an LTS
[07:03] <Tuck_C_Dough> kk
[07:03] <Tuck_C_Dough> just making sure
[07:03] <Ben64> 12.04 *everything* is supported until 2017
[07:04] <kop> "13.04 is losing support very soon..."
[07:04] <rww> oh, 12.04 not 10.04. i'm smrt
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> like today soon
[07:04] <Ben64> or tomorrow, depending on your time zone
[07:05] <SonikkuAmerica> phatso: No, no, no! The 12.04 mini.iso is NOT a repair disc.
[07:05] <Tuck_C_Dough> is it worth it going to 14 yet? like when would be a good date to aim for a stable pre copy of 14?
[07:05] <SwedeMike> rww: all 12.04 has support until 2017, not only server. They changed that in 12.04.
[07:05] <rww> SwedeMike: Ben64 already said this, yes
[07:06] <Ben64> Tuck_C_Dough: would be a better question for #ubuntu+1
[07:06] <SwedeMike> Tuck_C_Dough: what problem are you trying to solve by going for 14.04 ?
[07:06] <kop> Ben64, okay now I'm confused ... <Ben64> phatso: the bottom line is, if you want support here, you have to be using a supported release. 12.04 or 13.10 is suggested, as 13.04 is losing support very soon...
[07:06] <SonikkuAmerica> So how long is the circle of telephone going to continue? 12.04 == LTS, supported until 2017 | 13.04 != LTS, support ends TODAY
[07:07] <kop> of course confusing me doesn't take much
[07:07] <SonikkuAmerica> kop: Also, avocado is made of guacamole :)
[07:07] <Thete> why is it that people always question running beta versions of linux distros?  Isn't that the whole point?
[07:08] <kop> SonikkuAmerica, gnorph ? drool... :-P~
[07:09] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[07:09] <Thete> Do that many people not understand that alpha/beta == no support?
[07:09] <rww> Thete: yes
[07:09] <Thete> oh
[07:09] <Thete> freenode has changed quite a bit over the years I guess then
[07:10] <Tuck_C_Dough> @swedemike no problem to solve. just curious.
[07:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Thete: No mainline support anyway... here we have #ubuntu+1
[07:10] <kop> I still have a 10.04 that I can't upgrade to 12.xx because the 11.xx repos vanished
[07:10] <Ben64> 10.04 upgrades directly to 12.04
[07:10] <hitsujiTMO> kop you can upgrade lts to lts
[07:10] <SonikkuAmerica> kop: In Software Sources, ensure that "Long-term releases only" is selected."
[07:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Iha Shacks... never heard of 'em
[07:11] <kop> Ben64, tried that it broke "everything" thank finagle for huge spare volumes and dd
[07:12] <phatso> Is there any way to tell if I inadvertently did upgrade to 12? Supposing I pastebinned my sources.lst would that be enough? I see lucid in all the repo urls so it must still be lucid, right?
[07:12] <SonikkuAmerica> kop: "Everything"? Even the "quotes" you used to enclose everything in?
[07:13] <Ben64> phatso: cat /etc/issue
[07:13] <kop> SonikkuAmerica, would not boot from any previously viable boot partition
[07:13] <phatso> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l
[07:13] <phatso> Not sure why the newline and linefeed characters show up literally
[07:14] <SonikkuAmerica> kop: Did you try upgrading using a Live image?
[07:14] <kop> yup
[07:14] <kop> <-- not new just dangerous
[07:15] <phatso> I had the same problem as kop, luckily I had a 2nd hard drive handy so I installed wheezy on that drive and am now going to run my repaired lucid install in virtualbox. Once I figure out how to repair /bin, /dev and /boot
[07:15] <SonikkuAmerica> kop: Did you backupallyourdataandtheninstallfromscratchandplaceyourdataonthefreshinstall ?
[07:16] <phatso> I like how people throw the b word around so casually thinking everyone has a half gig to terrabyte spare capacity to rsynch everythng into
[07:16] <Thete> storage is cheap
[07:17] <kop> SonikkuAmerica, I suppose I could but this is what is bothering me . It worked fine in VM but on hardware it borks
[07:17] <SonikkuAmerica> kop: Maybe a better question is - did you try a fresh install, period?
[07:17] <SonikkuAmerica> (As in, before?)
[07:18] <SonikkuAmerica> phatso: Probably the only thing worth backing up is the /home folder, any config scripts you have, and probably a list of installed software (and definitely sources.list and sources.list.d)
[07:19] <phatso> You're forgetting all the /root data which may have cached ssh keys and what not
[07:19] <kop> actually not an option as I have so much config/3rd party crap/software/thirbligs (wtfever) that I really needed 10-11-then 12 and missed my window
[07:19] <kop> the box ian
[07:20] <kop> the box isn't critical so I'm not too worried
[07:20] <kop> just a puzzle
[07:24] <anandj> hi am trying to test syncookie functionality on a ubuntu 11.04 server.
[07:25] <anandj> I am using scapy to send a tcp packet, but receiving TCPError in the reply. I followed this to send the TCP syn packet. http://samsclass.info/124/proj11/proj10-123-scapy-tcp.html
[07:25] <anandj> The server is still functional and running.
[07:25] <anandj> though netstat -atn prints out too much syn_recv connections..
[07:26] <anandj> Any suggestions how to fix this? we get some high latency during peak load because of this.
[07:27] <xangua> !11.04
[07:29] <anandjeyahar> @xangua: I know we need to upgrade, we are planning for it in a couple of days time..
[07:40] <xxx> hi
[07:54] <Ronie> hello
[07:59] <helmut_> hi
[08:02] <Ronie> .
[08:16] <Gotolei> anyone able to help with a laptop brightness problem
[08:25] <Bear10> I have a vm with a bunch of programs installed and configured in ubuntu, is it possible to create an installer of sorts so I can install it as is on a host?
[08:25] <OmnIcK> Hi! How can I reinstall a package AND ALL deps for it? Ubuntu 12.04... Thanks! :-)
[08:27] <Gotolei> well this is a nice ghost town
[08:28] <Bear10> yes it is lol, i think everyone is in PST
[08:28] <Gotolei> heh
[08:28] <Gotolei> thought ubuntu was uk-based but oh well
[08:28]  * Gotolei is in PST :P
[08:29] <k1l_> Gotolei: Bear10 we have #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. this is the ubuntu support channel
[08:29] <Gotolei> yeah i came here looking for support
[08:29] <Bear10> oh
[08:29] <Bear10> k1l_ so did i hah
[08:29] <Gotolei> all i found was a wall of joins/quits
[08:30] <Gotolei> prolly better luck on the forums or something..
[08:30] <k1l_> Bear10: remastersys or uck might what you are looking for
[08:30] <Supaplex> I started nautilus manually because i'm not getting usb sticks to automount. What else should I look into?
[08:31] <Bear10> k1l, thanks
[08:31] <k1l_> Gotolei: with out a specific question the motivation to answer is quite low
[08:31] <Gotolei> i'm terrible with descriptions so http://videobin.org/+7aw/9k6.html
[08:31] <Gotolei> it doesn't zero out properly
[08:31] <k1l_> Supaplex: what ubuntu exaclty are you using? and what does dmesg tell you after you stick the usb in
[08:32] <Gotolei> what's weird is that it works properly in plymouth and lightdm
[08:32] <Gotolei> only after login it behaves like that
[08:33] <Gotolei> no matter what de i use
[08:33] <Bear10> thanks k1l, remastersys is perfect
[08:33] <Gotolei> (sorry for terrible vid quality btw)
[08:34] <Supaplex> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6825049/   I switched to tty1+2+3 a day or two ago (was logged out of gnome) backedup /home and with lvm, recreated it (as I was borrowing extra space from another physical harddisk, and this seemed faster than playing with resize2fs to reduce the size)
[08:35] <VLanX> anyone has a clue on what happens there?  http://pastebin.com/8PQifWbE
[08:35] <rf5> hi im not sure about what to do in this situation: http://pastie.org/8671212
[08:36] <supauli> VLanX: you copy from dev zero to somewhere, what are you trying to do?
[08:36] <VLanX> supauli: I was supposed to specify the output but I hit enter by mystake and I was surprised it was actually "transferring" data?
[08:36] <VLanX> not sure what happened
[08:36] <Supaplex> VLanX: /dev/zero is full of ascii #000 (never ending stream) but it appears you're missing of= (are you trying to blank something or create an empty image file?)
[08:37] <Supaplex> VLanX: no harm done. of= implies stdout (or the terminal)
[08:37] <VLanX> oh ok
[08:37] <OmnIcK> Hi! How can I reinstall a package AND ALL deps for it? Ubuntu 12.04... Thanks! :-)
[08:37] <VLanX> thanks guys
[08:37] <supauli> VLanX: oh, ok. The IF defaults to STDOUT according to manpage, and printing 0 does nothing to stdout
[08:38] <VLanX> great. I was starting to worry :D
[08:38] <rf5> Hello, im trying to install libpam0g-dev thru apt-get but im getting this: http://pastie.org/8671212 what should i do?
[08:38] <Supaplex> VLanX: supauli means if= implies STDIN (also the terminal, what you type into it) - but you gave dd if= so that's okay.
[08:43] <rf5> anyone please?
[08:45] <rf5> Hello, im trying to install libpam0g-dev thru apt-get but im getting this: http://pastie.org/8671212 what should i do?
[08:45] <Supaplex> rf5: try an apt-get update, and retry the install. otherwise, dpkg -l \*libpam0g\*  into pastebin
[08:46] <rf5> ye i did the update and retried, same error
[08:46] <rf5> http://pastie.org/8671236
[08:46] <Bray90820> Is there anyway to have a 25 or 20 minute screen turnoff
[08:46] <Bray90820> 15 not 25
[08:47] <Supaplex> dunno rf5. :-/ unless you can find the same versions of both and install them with dpkg -i (eg, manually download the packages)
[08:48] <rf5> sucks ay :(
[08:48] <rf5> thanks anyway bro
[08:49] <Bray90820> Is there anyway to have a 15 or 20 minute screen turnoff
[08:51] <pcya911> Hi guys, I have problem with nfs file sharing, I have one nfs server (NAS - BusyBox, 1.16.1) and 3 servers with Ubuntu, on 2 servers with older version of Ubuntu sharing works correctly, but I have problem after upgrade one of servers (Ubuntu 13.10), when I try mount remote partition manually, then mount command hangs forever...
[09:08] <prx> Hi, cant find the exact words to explain google my problem
[09:09] <LongCatTH> my audio source is mono, but it show stereo "Name: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo", when I record a sound.. no sound on the right of my speaker
[09:09] <prx> but my chromium URL bar decided to replace letters (if i am writing in the middle of the address) instead of showing them
[09:09] <prx> sorry *adding them
[09:09] <LongCatTH> u press "insert" button ?
[09:10] <prx> cheers :)
[09:10] <prx> i forgot what this button is for :)
[09:10] <prx> ok now my second issue
[09:10] <prx> just happened moments ago
[09:10] <Drakonslayor> hi, sorta new to ubuntu (though i use to use it a few years ago)...
[09:10] <prx> nevermind
[09:11] <Drakonslayor> having problems with steam
[09:11] <Drakonslayor> won't connect to the steam network
[09:11] <Drakonslayor> any suggestions
[09:13] <Ronie> what are the benefits of newer kernel?
[09:16] <owen__> Hello all. Just updated my Ubuntu 12.04LTS and now I have no wifi, no mouse pad. But first I wan't to sort out my Firefox flash plugin problem. I have installed the 'flash-plugin installer' from the deb repos. How, where do I activate it, so that it installs the flash plugin?
[09:18] <Bento> I have a weird issue with my Ubuntu machine. It says rootfs filled up but I cannot find more than 4 GB worth of data on there. And rootfs is 20 GB large.
[09:18] <Bento> See config here: http://mibpaste.com/a0cljb and here http://mibpaste.com/XX0Gu5
[09:18] <Bento> Any ideas?
[09:22] <Ben64> Bento:  rootfs 20G 18G 508M 98% / <--- see, it's almost full
[09:23] <Bento> Yeah thats the point
[09:23] <Bento> There no more than a few GBs of data in there
[09:23] <owen__> Hello all. Just updated my Ubuntu 12.04LTS and now I have no wifi, no mouse pad. But first I wan't to sort out my Firefox flash plugin problem. I have installed the 'flash-plugin installer' from the deb repos. How, where do I activate it, so that it installs the flash plugin?
[09:24] <Bento> du -h shows about 4 GBs
[09:25] <Ben64> Bento: pastebin that
[09:26] <Ben64> owen__: how exactly did you get "flash-plugin installer"
[09:27] <Bento> Ben64: Just deleted a 3 Gbs of data but it still says theres alot of data in it. Heres the output http://pastebin.com/kHRYMtJR
[09:28] <Ben64> Bento: you're just listing what is in ~
[09:28] <owen__> Ben64: I can't remember exactly. It's been a while, but I see it as installed in the deb installer. After updating, it no longer works in Firefox
[09:29] <Ben64> Bento: and you shouldn't be doing stuff as root, you should use sudo when necessary
[09:29] <Bento> Ben64: What do u need
[09:29] <Ben64> owen__: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep -i flash"
[09:30] <Ben64> Bento: pastebin "du -xh --max-depth 1 /"
[09:31] <Bento> http://pastebin.com/aYeJ2Tn5
[09:33] <owen__> Ben64: dpkg -l | grep -i flash = flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.335ubuntu0.12.04.1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[09:35] <owen__> Ben64: Not sure it should automatically install or if I have to do anything. It's been working nicely for a while until I ran the update.
[09:36] <Ben64> owen__: try reinstalling that package
[09:37] <owen__> Ben64: Just done that
[09:37] <Ben64> Bento: sudo lsof | grep "(deleted)"                   <--- will show you all the files that are deleted, but still open. that will add to the used drive space but not show up in du
[09:37] <Ben64> owen__: then it should be installed
[09:38] <Ben64> owen__: it puts the plugin in here ---> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[09:38] <Bento> Ben64: It's finding a crapload of files
[09:38] <Bento> mostly in /tmp and /root.cache/
[09:39] <Bento> .cache is used by duplicity for my backups
[09:39] <owen__> Ben64: This update I just did borked my flash on Firefox, mouspad and my wifi :(
[09:44] <Bento> I restarted mysql and now theres 17 GB free again lol
[09:45] <Installer> Hello everyone, I had Debian 7.3 installed and I decided to change to ubuntu desktop 13.10
[09:45] <Installer> The installation is going fine
[09:45] <Installer> But I get no boot after that
[09:45] <Installer> I tried to reinstall a few more times
[09:46] <Installer> Same result
[09:46] <Installer> And the installer does recognize I have ubuntu 13.10 installed
[09:46] <Installer> How can I fix this?
[09:49] <k1l_> Installer: do you see grub? what is the last you see?
[09:51] <Installer> I tried to fix the grub
[09:51] <Installer> It fixed it
[09:51] <Installer> But I still get no boot
[09:56] <Installer> Anyone?
[09:56] <k1l_> Installer: more details?
[09:57] <Installer> I get no grub menu and no options
[09:57] <Installer> Boot is simply saying that no operating system exist
[09:57] <Installer> If I click to try ubuntu
[09:58] <Installer> I can see everything is installed on the hdf
[09:58] <Installer> Anything else that may help you?
[09:58] <TJ-> Installer: How many hard disks, USB storage devices, and CD/DVDs are attached at that point?
[09:59] <Installer> 1 USB
[09:59] <Installer> 1 hdd
[09:59] <Installer> No cd/DVD
[09:59] <pixxel> Hello. I could use some help, tried to google this problem but could not find a solution: I can't move stuff in my GUI(unity) and i can't click on certain buttons.
[09:59] <TJ-> Installer: It sounds like a pretty typical mistake where the BIOS/firmware boot order doesn't include the device the OS is installed on. Have you confirmed in BIOS/firmware that the HDD is in the boot device order?
[10:00] <Installer> It's in the boot order
[10:00] <TJ-> Installer: When it boots with just the HDD connected, are you able to get to the GRUB menu by holding down the Shift key as the BIOS POST sequence ends?
[10:00] <Installer> I even tried manually to point the boot there
[10:01] <Installer> Trying now
[10:02] <Installer> Nope, no go
[10:02] <MAD_51> morning!
[10:02] <TJ-> Installer: OK, that sounds strange. You say that Debian was installed previously, was it starting using GRUB?
[10:03] <Installer> Yes it was
[10:03] <TJ-> Installer: Even if the Ubuntu installer managed to put the GRUB boot files on, say, the USB device, the previous GRUB from Debian would still be loaded
[10:03] <owen__> After an update, many things wouldn't work with my Ubuntu 12.04 I read somewhere that if I run 'dpkg --configure -a' however I get this output. http://pastebin.com/LCNsk4Gw What should I do?
[10:04] <TJ-> Installer: I think you'll need to start the Live ISO image and from that do some detective work to identify what is wrong, and how to fix it
[10:04] <mikemousek> hi
[10:04] <Installer> I tried to rebuild the entire disk with a fresh boot partition (efi)
[10:05] <Installer> Still no go
[10:05] <mikemousek> the best now is XUBUNTU fantastic speed and performance
[10:05] <mikemousek> thanks linux
[10:06] <TJ-> owen__: What does this report? "cat /etc/sysctl.d/*.conf /etc/sysctl.conf | sudo sysctl -p -"
[10:07] <TJ-> Installer: hang on, this is on a UEFI system? Is the installation on an MBR or GPT partition layout?
[10:07] <mikemousek> xfce4 is better now ,fantastic job brothers
[10:08] <TJ-> Installer: And, have you disabled SecureBoot and enabled Compatibility System Module (Legacy support) ?
[10:08] <Installer> I can disable the UEFI and reinstall
[10:08] <pixxel> Not to flood this channel but again; I'm unable to click on anything using my GUI in linux(tried mint with cinnamon, did not work, tried installing xfce on mint still unable to use gui, and now ubuntu with unity) Tried to google the problem but could not find a solution.
[10:09] <TJ-> Installer: That shouldn't be necessary. What partition layout is on the disk, MBR or GPT?
[10:10] <mikemousek> unity  doesn 't very  good  hot system ever
[10:10] <owen__> TJ-: I get this http://pastebin.com/2y6WFGBd
[10:10] <mikemousek> the best is xfce4-desktop
[10:10] <Drakonslayor> hi, just started using ubuntu again (first time in a long time). wondering if there is any way to get my logitech g35 headset working on surround or atleast get the bass working in them... they sound super tinny
[10:11] <Installer> I have no idea
[10:11] <Installer> How can I check?
[10:11] <TJ-> owen__: There's your problem then "error: "Invalid argument" setting key "fs.inotify.max_user_watches" " ... so identify which file that is in, and comment it out for now: "grep -n 'fs\.inotify\.max_user_watches' /etc/sysctl.d*.conf /etc/sysctl.conf
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Drakonslayor: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[10:12] <owen__> TJ-: Thanks for showing me... :)
[10:12] <TJ-> Installer: If you start the Live ISO "Try Ubuntu", at a Terminal you can do "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda" (assuming the hard disk is sda) and that will report on MBR and/or GPT status
[10:13] <TJ-> owen__: After making that change you can re-run your reconfigure command
[10:14] <Installer> It's gpt
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[10:16] <Wiz_KeeD> Two questions is I may: 1. I used synclient to make certain areas of my touchpad dead so I don't accidentaly start it, how do I make it permanent so it loads on boot?
[10:16] <TJ-> Installer: OK ...  can you pastebin the output of that 'gdisk' command, we need to ensure there's a valid EFI system partition
[10:17] <owen__> TJ-: When I run that command "grep -n 'fs\.inotify\.max_user_watches' /etc/sysctl.d*.conf /etc/sysctl.conf" I get "grep: /etc/sysctl.d*.conf: No such file or directory"
[10:17] <Wiz_KeeD> and two, I have a hdd caddy with ntfs to be used by both operating systems, how do I have it mounted permanently because if I download torrents or have my dropbox configured on it errors out when I boot the device and the programs automatically try to find the source
[10:17] <Wiz_KeeD> it's like it has a different name or path and they can't find it:(
[10:18] <TJ-> owen__: oops! Typo ... there is a "/" missing between "/etc/sysctl.d" and "*.conf"
[10:19] <installer2> TJ-: maybe this will help
[10:19] <installer2> boot-repair output
[10:19] <installer2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6825397/
[10:20] <owen__> TJ-: OK now it works. :) So I comment out those entries that I
[10:20] <owen__> TJ-: OK now it works. :) So I comment out those entries that I'm seeing from grep?
[10:20] <TJ-> owen__: I'm not sure why that stopped your system working... is it a low-memory system? Because that line you commented out is pretty standard
[10:21] <TJ-> owen__: You should only need to comment out the lines that are reported as errors
[10:21] <totesmuhgoats> hey pals
[10:21] <installer2> TJ-: 'gdisk' output
[10:21] <installer2> http://pastebin.com/wf7zCPg0
[10:21] <TJ-> installer2: That looks like sda is messed up... is the drive failing!? Check "/var/log/kern.log" for signs of I/O errors reading sda
[10:22] <totesmuhgoats> if a box has no keyboard / mouse and will be controlled with synergy, is there a way to login to the lightdm login screen over ssh?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> totesmuhgoats: you can configure lightdm to autologin...
[10:23] <totesmuhgoats> ActionParsnip: i was hoping to avoid that, but i'm keeping it as a last resport
[10:23] <totesmuhgoats> resort even*
[10:23] <installer2> TJ-: nope, no errors or failuers there
[10:25] <thom_r> is it possible to remove Unity and install Cairo dock?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: just disable Unity plugin in ccsm, why would you need to uninstall it?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: it uses very little space.
[10:25] <thom_r> just curious
[10:26] <thom_r> what is ccsm
[10:27] <TJ-> installer2: The boot-repair output is conflicting, in that it starts off reporting problems with even mounting sda1 sda2 but then goes on to report on them, and what it reports on the face of it looks correct
[10:27] <installer2> TJ-: ok, and what about the gdisk output I've sent you? is that ok?
[10:28] <TJ-> installer2: The only thing I can imagine is your PC's UEFI firmware didn't accept the addition of a boot menu entry
[10:28] <installer2> What should I do in such a case?
[10:29] <TJ-> installer2: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr"
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: its a config app for compiz
[10:31] <installer2> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/cVbg4gfi
[10:34] <TJ-> installer2: It looks like the BootOrder is putting "ubuntu" too far down the order
[10:35] <installer2> OK... is there a way to fix it?
[10:35] <TJ-> installer2: If you notice, "ubuntu" is 'Boot0005' and BootOrder doesn't list it first.
[10:35] <installer2> I see
[10:37] <TJ-> installer2: "sudo efibootmgr --bootorder 0005,0007,0000,0001,0002,0006"
[10:37] <installer2> it gave me an output
[10:38] <installer2> And I see that it's still in the same order
[10:38] <TJ-> installer2: pastebin the output
[10:38] <Dureiken> Hi there, is that normal that I have no shutdown/restart/logout button in Ubuntu 13.10 taskbar (right of calendar as 12.04) ?? Thanks
[10:38] <Muneeb> any one can see this msg
[10:38] <Muneeb> ?
[10:38] <installer2> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/gua30zwV
[10:39] <TJ-> installer2: That is correct. Look at the "BootOrder" line 0005 is now first in the list
[10:39] <installer2> oh yeah I can see the boot order..
[10:39] <installer2> OK, trying to reboot.. god I hope it works
[10:39] <TJ-> installer2: let's check the GRUB boot files are there as well
[10:39] <installer2> oh ok
[10:39] <installer2> lol
[10:39] <installer2> please explain
[10:39] <TJ-> installer2: check that /dev/sda1 is mounted with "mount | grep sda1"
[10:40] <TJ-> installer2: If it is, tell me where, if not do "sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/tmp"
[10:40] <onlty> TJ-, /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
[10:40] <installer2> TJ-: Should I get any output? because I get nothing
[10:41] <TJ-> installer2: when there's no output it means it isn't mounted right now, so go ahead with the command I just gave you, which will mount it
[10:42] <TJ-> installer2: After you've mounted it you should see a listing of files when you do "find /mnt/tmp -type f"   ... if you see files listed, pastebin the list
[10:43] <installer2> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/FQaYu7QA
[10:44] <foofoobar> Hi. Can someone suggest a good cloud backup solution which I can use with ubuntu? I thought of packing all by myself and putting it to glacier, but maybe there is some easier way to do this?
[10:44] <TJ-> installer2: that looks good, "EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi" is the first file the PC's UEFI firmware should load now the boot-order is set correctly
[10:45] <TJ-> installer2: go ahead and try a reboot
[10:45] <foofoobar> Idealy I want to define a folder list which should be backup'd every X days automatically
[10:45] <installer2> ok.. brb
[10:48] <Installer> TJ-: no go
[10:49] <Installer> end the efibootmgr order changed for some reason when I just checked now
[10:49] <Installer> http://pastebin.com/BLw0tViY
[10:49] <Installer> *and
[10:49] <humbolt> do you guys use ceph and openstack?
[10:51] <TJ-> Installer: if the firmware of the PC is changing the boot order, change it manually yourself to make "ubuntu" first in the list
[10:51] <Installer> TJ-: how?
[10:52] <TJ-> Installer: when the PC boots, press the key to enter "Setup" and then find the boot-order menu and alter it
[10:52] <TJ-> Installer: The "Save settings" and continue (re)booting
[10:52] <Installer> But I don't believe I will see an "ubuntu" entry in the boot-order there
[10:52] <Installer> Right?
[10:52] <TJ-> Installer: If that doesn't stick, then the PC's firmware has a bug
[10:52] <TJ-> Installer: Yes, you will, efibootmgr showed it in the list
[10:53] <Installer> Alright, trying now
[10:53] <TJ-> Installer: On UEFI systems the boot menu is managed by the motherboard's UEFI firmware and it stores the boot entries in its own Non-Volatile RAM
[10:55] <TJ-> Installer: For it to work, the UEFI firmware expects to find an EFI System Partition on the disk, formatted as FAT12,16, or 32, with an "EFI/" directory containing boot files. The boot menu entries saved in NV-RAM point to those files.
[11:00] <kibogol> When making a purchase through Amazon how can one make sure Ubuntu gets affiliate program money?
[11:12] <SrRaven-work> Anyone got an easy guide how I would set up a domain to work with a webserver ? It currently always is IP/blabla/ but I want to change it so its always Domain/blabla/
[11:12] <SrRaven-work> something with apache2,but thats about where my knowledge ends
[11:16] <black_angel> hey, guys, i installed nvidia_331 driver, but it always say: This driver is activated but not currently in use.
[11:16] <Installer> TJ-: Well..
[11:16] <Installer> As It seems
[11:16] <Installer> there is a bug in the Firmware
[11:17] <Installer> I disabled the uefi in the bios, reinstalled, and the system is up and running
[11:17] <black_angel> is there any suggestion?
[11:19] <efren> hola
[11:19] <efren> hijos de puta
[11:20] <gordonjcp> !language | efren
[11:20] <SrRaven-work> now my spanish is bad but even I know that isnt nice :P
[11:20] <efren> perdona
[11:20] <gordonjcp> !ops | efren
[11:21] <efren> ubuntu rules
[11:21] <monkey_man> black-angel, is there perhaps a nvidia-xconf configuration tool or similar. I know when I used NVIDIA a long time ago, I would have to install the drivers, run the configuration tool and restart gnome.
[11:24] <bittyx> Hiya. I'm having trouble with updating a package from the Ubuntu repositories. I'm on Linux Mint Olivia (based on Ubuntu Raring), but this package is installed from Ubuntu's repositories. See this link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git-cola
[11:25] <bittyx> I'm currently on version 1.8.1 which is consistent with that page, as that's the latest release for Raring.
[11:25] <bittyx> However, I'd like to update git-cola to 1.9.3 (the current version).
[11:25] <bittyx> How can I do this?
[11:25] <TJ-> Installer: What is the make/model of the PC/motherboard?
[11:27] <TJ-> bittyx: As it shows, 1.9.3-1 is only released for Trusty, so you'd need to either use the Trusty archive or directly download the .deb packages (and any dependencies) and install them using "dpkg -i"
[11:28] <bittyx> TJ-: https://launchpad.net/~eraserix/+archive/git-cola <-- I've just found this repository which is meant for precise. Can I use that somehow?
[11:28] <bittyx> To be honest, I have absolutely no idea how package repositories work for debian-based systems.
[11:28] <TJ-> bittyx: Then you'd probably best not do it, else you'll risk messing up your system
[11:29] <somsip> bittyx: you're asking about mixing ubuntu PPAs with Mint. Neither of these are supported here...
[11:29] <bittyx> somsip: That's not true. I've explicitly stated that git-cola is pulled from Ubuntu's repositories.
[11:29] <bittyx> somsip: Mint doesn't have git-cola in their repositories.
[11:29] <somsip> bittyx:  https://launchpad.net/~eraserix/+archive/git-cola is a PPA
[11:30] <bittyx> somsip: So if I add that to my software sources, and do "apt-get install git-cola", I'll get the (newer) version from that PPA?
[11:30] <bittyx> somsip: How does apt decide where to get git-cola from, if multiple sources have it?
[11:30] <somsip> bittyx: no idea. We don't support mint here. Really. I'm not just being difficult, we just don't know
[11:32] <bittyx> somsip: Are you saying that Mint uses a different apt program than Ubuntu does? Don't they handle packages pretty much exactly the same?
[11:32] <bittyx> This is really a more general question that *can* be answered without regards to Mint.
[11:32] <somsip> bittyx: I've had nothing to do with mint, so I don't know.
[11:33] <bittyx> I have a package "git-cola" installed from *Ubuntu's* raring repository. It's an old version. I want a newer one. How do I get it?
[11:33] <gordonjcp> I'd be more inclined to help with mint if they had an irc channel on freenode
[11:33] <somsip> bittyx: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will bring in all latest version from official repos
[11:33] <gordonjcp> also I'd give mint a shot if it had unity
[11:34] <bittyx> somsip: The official repo for raring has git-cola 1.8.1. The trusty repo has 1.9.3 (the current stable).
[11:34] <bittyx> somsip: So sudo apt-get update won't make my git-cola upgrade to 1.9.3.
[11:34] <somsip> bittyx: if you have raring installed, you can install raring packages. If you are using trusty, you need to be in #ubuntu+1 as it's still in beta and not supported here...
[11:35] <bittyx> gordonjcp: One of the reasons I'm using Mint is specifically *because* it doesn't have Unity (though I'm sure it can be installed one way or another).
[11:35] <somsip> bittyx: EOT for me. I know you want answers, but this really isn't the place to ask
[11:35] <mikubuntu> ok, no doubt about it now -- there is some (probably) hardware problem with this laptop. when i put the boot cd in, it spins up, some processing occurs onscreen, it goes to the language selection screen, and then goes blank/black and silent. no spinning, no blinking, just the power indicator light and the wireless indicator light showing.
[11:35] <bittyx> somsip: So if the Ubuntu raring repository doesn't update git-cola to a newer version, I can't update it through the software manager?
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> bittyx  better ask in the mint channel
[11:36] <puppylinux2> MonkeyDust: hello
[11:36] <mikubuntu> it was working fine yesterday right up until i backed up/copied all my files off onto a usb
[11:36] <ivan88> !banner
[11:36] <bittyx> Gah. This is obviously not a Mint-specific question, but you guys always refuse to touch anything Mint-related with a 10 foot pole. Even though I'm specifically asking about Ubuntu's software repositories, and Ubuntu's package update system.
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> hi puppylinux2
[11:37] <bittyx> I get that you don't want to take responsibility for a different system (and that's fine), but this is really *not* a Mint question.
[11:37] <puppylinux2> MonkeyDust: which is official linuxmint channel?
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[11:38] <k1l_> bittyx: just to make it clear. there are tons of desktops available for ubuntu. so no need to not use ubuntu just because you dont like unity.
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> bittyx  puppylinux2 or surf to linuxmint.com > Community > chatbox
[11:39] <puppylinux2> thans
[11:39] <puppylinux2> thanks
[11:39] <bittyx> k1l_: I'm aware; I just never felt like putting that much energy into something I can have by default (ie. an efficient user interface).
[11:39] <k1l_> bittyx: and yes, mint handles the repositories differently than ubuntu. they need to do this that ubuntu updates dont break their setup. so please ask them for mint topics
[11:39] <bittyx> k1l_: (Efficient for me personally, of course.)
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> bittyx  if mint were the same as ubuntu, it would be called "ubuntu"
[11:40] <ivan88> come si fa x avere la lista
[11:40] <ivan88> ??
[11:40] <ikonia> no
[11:41] <bittyx> Okay, so if I rephrase the question to be Ubuntu-specific, can I get an answer? Imagine I'm using raring, and "sudo apt-get install git-cola" installs version 1.8.1 of the package. The newest git-cola version, however, is 1.9.3. How can I install the newest version?
[11:41] <Installer> TJ-:
[11:41] <DJones> ivan88: This is an operating system support channel
[11:41] <Installer> TJ-: It's a lenovo ThinkCentre M91p
[11:41] <ikonia> bittyx: but you're not using ubuntu
[11:42] <ikonia> bittyx: imagine you get an answer, in the same way I imagine you're using ubuntu
[11:42] <bittyx> ikonia: But how would I do it, if I was?
[11:42] <ikonia> bittyx: you wouldn't do it
[11:42] <bittyx> ikonia: Why not?
[11:43] <TJ-> Installer: ensure it has the latest firmware release:  http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS018245
[11:43] <ikonia> bittyx: because it's not in the stable repos, and as you're not using ubuntu, answering how you'd do it on another distro would be a different response
[11:44] <mikubuntu> it was working fine yesterday right up until i backed up/copied all my files off onto a usb
[11:44] <bittyx> ikonia: Okay, but what about this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~eraserix/+archive/git-cola <--- can I install it from there?
[11:44] <ikonia> bittyx: depends, what distribution are you using (honeslty)
[11:45] <bittyx> ikonia: I'm using Linux Mint Olivia which is built on Ubuntu Raring. I'm being honest from the start, I didn't lie about that.
[11:45] <ikonia> bittyx: and take it to the mint channels and they can clarify that
[11:45] <k1l_> bittyx: ask the mint guys if that is compatible
[11:45] <ikonia> bittyx: then "no"
[11:45] <bittyx> ikonia: I realize I can add that PPA; my original question was actually how "apt-get install" decides where to install the package from, if it's available in multiple added software sources.
[11:45] <ikonia> bittyx: "no" is the answer to your question
[11:46] <k1l_> bittyx: and exactly that is different on mint. like i told they need do because of they dont want ubuntu updates break their stuff
[11:46] <k1l_> bittyx: so stop making a drama and ask the mint guys about how they handle the stuff
[11:47] <TJ-> Installer: Also, try the Lenovo bootable diagnostics for UEFI: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=LENV-DIAGS#uefi
[11:47] <bittyx> Okay, I'm honestly not trying to be a pain in the ass here - I'm asking in this channel because you people have always been more helpful.
[11:48] <ikonia> bittyx: and you're losing that help and good faith by asking us to support mint, so please stop and taking it to the mint channel you've not even asked there yet
[11:48] <bittyx> Both before, when I was actually using Ubuntu, and a few times when I asked question about Mint here. And to be honest, I've asked questions here, and gotten answers which *solved* my problems, but I wouldn't have gotten those answers if I mentioned I was on Mint.
[11:49] <bittyx> And that's what I don't get - I've gotten useful advice (which I think could be applied to most debian-based distros) by not mentioning I'm not using Ubuntu specifically.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> bittyx, and if mint doesn't give you the support you want, maybe the universe is trying to tell you something ...
[11:49] <cfhowlett> ... never mind ...
[11:50] <ikonia> cfhowlett: it would give him the support if he took the time to ask...as he's not even asked there......
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> bittyx  tip: you coul've use your wasted time here, to ask support in the mint channel
[11:51] <k1l_> enough of that mint talk. i explained 2 times now why that is not a question for this channel. if mint support is that bad, that they dont answer you that questions it is not our duty. so please choose your distro according to their  support if support is important to you.
[11:55] <sh0t> hey guys i am still getting problems with RT3290 wireless card on UBuntu 13.10 (it disconnects after a while of networking) i am running kernel 3.12 any ideas?
[11:56] <ikonia> you shouldnt be running 3.12
[11:56] <ikonia> that is not the stable kernel for 13.10
[11:57] <sh0t> yeah i know ikonia but i tried other fixes which didn't work then on many askubuntu and ubuntu forum i read many thread which suggested to try that kernel so i did it and it seemd to work yesterday but it seems i was wrong
[11:58] <Layke> I've been trying to install kcachegrind, but after constantly chasing down dependencies, I'm like 7 deep, and just confused, as to what this means..
[11:58] <Layke> I've been
[11:59] <ikonia> the package should automatically meet dependencies
[11:59] <ikonia> if it's not doing so it's probably coming from an external repo that's a mess
[11:59] <Layke> Yeah it's not. I started on kcachegrind, then it asked for kde-runtime, then asked for kdelibs, then qt4-support
[11:59] <Layke> Then xyz, etc...
[11:59] <Elico> is this the place for ubuntu-server?
[12:00] <mikubuntu> please, can someone help -- i'm at wit's end with this box
[12:00] <ikonia> Layke: are you building it from source or installing a package
[12:00] <Layke> ikonia, Attempting from package
[12:00] <Layke> apt-get install kcachegrind
[12:00] <Layke> This is the reqs page: http://kcachegrind.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/show.cgi/KcacheGrindInstallation
[12:00] <ikonia> Layke: then ask that repo to fix it's dependencies
[12:01] <mikubuntu> don't know if some hardware actually fried, very coincidentally at the same time i was trying to install new system
[12:01] <Elico> mikubuntu: what is the issue?
[12:01] <mikubuntu> ok, no doubt about it now -- there is some (probably) hardware problem with this laptop. when i put the boot cd in, it spins up, some processing occurs onscreen, it goes to the language selection screen, and then goes blank/black and silent. no spinning, no blinking, just the power indicator light and the wireless indicator light showing.
[12:02] <mikubuntu> Elico: see post i just repeated
[12:02] <Elico> I do not have the post... just got here..
[12:03] <mikubuntu> Elico: I just repeated after you asked
[12:03] <Elico> It can be just a simple resulution..
[12:03] <Elico> resolution*
[12:04] <Elico> the power lamp is on?
[12:04] <TJ-> sh0t: according to bug #1049466 (which I'm guessing you're aware of!) it looks like it still hasn't bee fixed, even upstream
[12:04] <mikubuntu> Elico: yes
[12:04] <Elico> OK then the PC is OK.
[12:04] <Elico> server or PC?
[12:04] <mikubuntu> pc, gateway laptop
[12:05] <Elico> What is the model?
[12:05] <sh0t> TJ-, yeah i am aware of that but I read in some threads where some people actually had it working just using kernel 3.12
[12:07] <TJ-> sh0t: The latest comments I've just read suggest 3.12 also fails after a while
[12:07] <Elico> mikubuntu: ?
[12:07] <mikubuntu> Elico: i just closed the laptop, to read model number on back (N214), and when i opened the screen, it is lit up again
[12:08] <Elico> I will look on the model...
[12:08] <ArmokGoB> Stuff is opening in 32 bit instead of 64 bit java for some unfantomable reason. I suck at gogling and didnt find anything usefull. Also I couldnt find my bookmark so I'm not even sure this is the right chanel for this
[12:08] <sh0t> yeah TJ- that's what i am getting too...it's been more than 1 year now when is this going to be fixed!? Could it be that it's a faulty hardware?
[12:08] <sh0t> (well on win8 i am not getting problems so i guess no)
[12:08] <mikubuntu> Elico: but it has a lubuntu disk in it -- i really wanted to install ubuntustudio, which i have on usb -- going to restart install with usb and see if it works
[12:09] <Elico> sec...
[12:09] <TJ-> sh0t: For so many users to be affected, I doubt that. Looks like Realtek haven't provided the driver or technical information for the maintainers to fix it
[12:09] <Elico> is it a M214 or N214?
[12:10] <mikubuntu> Elico: N
[12:11] <sh0t> TJ-, ok...
[12:11] <Elico> it's probably Canada model.
[12:11] <sh0t> anyway the fact that many users have it not functional should imply more a faulty hw  no? But let's hope  it's just sw problems
[12:11] <mikubuntu> Elico: never had any prob with it until now
[12:12] <Elico> well ubuntu requires couple things from the PC..
[12:12] <ArmokGoB> is this chat program working? is this the rigth chanel for getign help with random stuff?
[12:12] <mikubuntu> Elico: but its true, i'm not canadian
[12:12] <TJ-> sh0t: Linux bug 61621 seems to show the problem is with MSIs, and patching their use out appears to be a potential solution: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61621
[12:12] <irgendwer4711> hi, howto setup a simple fileserver with samba4. I dont get running it.
[12:12] <Elico> try to run it using finnix...
[12:12] <Elico> have you ever used finnix?
[12:13] <TJ-> sh0t: ignore ubutto, too sensitive to bug references, and always shows Launchpad bugs matching a number!
[12:13] <irgendwer4711> Elico: me?
[12:13] <Elico> mikubuntu: ..
[12:13] <mikubuntu> Elico: never heard of finnux
[12:13] <sh0t> ok TJ-
[12:14] <Elico> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=finnix
[12:14] <Elico> irgendwer4711: I would try in a sec to write..
[12:14] <Elico> irgendwer4711: samba4 as far as I can tell is not at the stable stages of the software
[12:14] <k1l_> irgendwer4711: instead of using other distros what is you exact issue?
[12:14] <irgendwer4711> Elico: I do not want a DC
[12:15] <Elico> just a share?
[12:15] <k1l_> !details | irgendwer4711
[12:15] <Elico> k1l_: it is a very simple distro that had tools to check a PC.. and a Server.
[12:15] <irgendwer4711> Elico: samba4 doesnt start: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwbclient.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libauth4.so)
[12:16] <k1l_> Elico: i dont think that helps in this case.
[12:16] <Elico> k1l_: I would not tell you to believe me...
[12:16] <k1l_> irgendwer4711: what ubuntu is it exactly and how did you install that?
[12:16] <irgendwer4711> Elico: 13.10, with apt-get install samba4
[12:16] <mikubuntu> Elico: give me a couple mins to burn
[12:16] <Elico> use a usb mikubuntu ...
[12:17] <TJ-> irgendwer4711: see bug #1244031
[12:17] <TeraJL> i'm editing a file in lib/udev/keymaps/... but how can i add multikeys? like ctrl+s to a scan code?
[12:17] <mikubuntu> Elico: ok --- i took out the lubuntu disk, and tried booting with the usb ubuntustudio -- but it is stuck at the splash screen
[12:17] <Elico> irgendwer4711: well I do see that it is in the tree but I have never used it.. it should be similar to samba3
[12:18] <Elico> mikubuntu: it happens on some PCs
[12:18] <irgendwer4711> TJ-: how could this bug append. its a stable version
[12:18] <Elico> I myself prefer DVD or CD.
[12:18] <Elico> irgendwer4711: I can install a server version of 13.10 and see how it goes. What do you think?
[12:19] <TLoFP> hi, in a comand line only install. Is it possible to switch between one or more terminals?
[12:19] <irgendwer4711> afk
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> TLoFP  to do what?
[12:20] <Elico> "afk" ? what does it means?
[12:20] <TLoFP> just have more then one session open at a time
[12:20] <TLoFP> Elico, away from keyboard
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> Elico  away from keyboard
[12:20] <fidel_> TLoFP: tty or inside a single session consider using screen
[12:20] <Layke> Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to install KDE?
[12:20] <Layke> http://pastie.org/private/17xkgf9ng0gpwwkx3mp9w
[12:21] <ikonia> Layke: you have screwed up the dependencies
[12:21] <ikonia> Layke: I suspect this is coming from the external repo you added earlier
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> Layke  try kubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <Layke> MonkeyDust, I did
[12:21] <Layke> Same results.
[12:21] <Layke> Slightly different dependency issue
[12:21] <ikonia> why would the meta package fix dependecies ???
[12:21] <ikonia> Layke: you've screwed your machine with that external repo
[12:22] <Layke> ikonia, So, I essentially would need to remove a package that was previously installed
[12:22] <Layke> But no way of knowing what?
[12:22] <ikonia> Layke: you'd need to remove that package and EVERY dependency you installed (and sub depenencies) to meet that
[12:23] <Elico> irgendwer4711: let me know if you need me to install it.
[12:24] <TeraJL> i'm creating a keymap, for a device, if got the scan code, and i want KEY_KEY_LEFTMETA+w , how can i set both of them on one keycode?
[12:24] <TeraJL> *i got the scan code
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Layke: or kde-standard
[12:26] <Layke> Still the same issue...  http://pastie.org/8671738
[12:26] <Layke> ikonia, Is right I'm sure
[12:26] <Layke> I must have broken my install by installed something from an external repo..?
[12:26] <Layke> These are all my packages
[12:26] <Layke> https://gist.github.com/Kalyse/8b2193215fad089c1450/raw/64efdb4eaaafd1f07dd39cffd82e482b36f5c758/file.txt
[12:26] <Layke> Not sure how I can find out what I need to remove though?
[12:26] <TJ-> sh0t: The fix of removing the MSIs is in 3.12, so not sure why you're still getting it: "git describe --contains dfb6b7c: v3.12-rc7~20^2~20^2^2~11"
[12:27] <mikubuntu> Elico: i just dragged and dropped finnux file onto the usb, when i put it into the target machine, says no bootable device
[12:28] <mikubuntu> Elico: must it be copied to usb via unetbootin?
[12:28] <Elico> I have used "dd" form the iso file into the USB..
[12:28] <TJ-> Layke: You could try looking in "/var/log/apt/history*". If you can find the package you originally installed from the external repo you should also see a list of all the packages and versions it pulled in, which would allow you to manually remove the same
[12:28] <Elico> but it will erase the usb conetent..
[12:28] <sh0t> TJ-,  I am still here yeah
[12:29] <sh0t> TJ-,  i didn't remove MSIs yet
[12:29] <sh0t> i mean from grub option
[12:29] <TJ-> sh0t: If you're using v3.12 then its already done, as I just showed. The commit was "fb6b7c Mon Sep 30 16:19:28 2013 -0400 Stanislaw Gruszka Revert "rt2x00pci: Use PCI MSIs whenever possible""
[12:30] <mikubuntu> Elico: downloading unetbootin
[12:30] <TJ-> sh0t: oops, sorry, the commit ID got truncated, it is "dfb6b7c"
[12:30] <Elico> ok
[12:30] <irgendwer4711> re
[12:30] <sh0t> TJ-, sorry I don't really know what I should be supposed to do with that ID
[12:31] <irgendwer4711> Elico: you want to try a test installation oaf samb4?
[12:31] <Elico> I will install it using apt-get..
[12:31] <TJ-> sh0t: So, you need to be looking in the log-files ("/var/log/syslog" and "/var/log/kern.log") and reporting any problems reported by the WPA, Network-Manager, or rt2x driver. Be a good idea to add those to the launchpad bug report I pointed you to earlier.
[12:32] <TJ-> sh0t: The ID is information for you, showing that the v3.12 kernel includes the fix of removing MSI usage
[12:32] <irgendwer4711> Elico: just try and select standallone
[12:32] <neoromantique> http://storage9.static.itmages.com/i/14/0126/h_1390765119_5754057_f09cf525d2.png
[12:32] <neoromantique> Guys, I'm completely lost
[12:33] <neoromantique> How do I make sound work in Rakarrack and Jack>
[12:33] <sh0t> ok TJ- by "reporting" you mean reporting to kernel developers
[12:33] <sh0t> ?
[12:33] <mikubuntu> Elico: how do i clear this usb?
[12:33] <Walex> neoromantique: carefully and deliberately :-)
[12:33] <Layke> ikonia, ActionParsnip Was advised to remove libqt and doing so has fixed the issue
[12:34] <Layke> I reinstalling it and the dependencies are correct now
[12:34] <Elico> mikubuntu: clear in what level?
[12:34] <neoromantique> Walex, I'd be rather pleased if you'd bump me into right direction. P.S Output works, aka I can listen to music through Jack sink
[12:34] <Elico> dd can wipe the drive very fast..
[12:35] <TJ-> sh0t: Add that information to the Ubuntu bug #1049466
[12:36] <mikubuntu> Elico: i think i need to clear usb as when i added unetbootin image the target says invalid or corrupt kernel image
[12:36] <Elico> it seems a bit weird..
[12:37] <sh0t> TJ- ok i'll do it even though now it's a bit of a problem since I have not internet on the netbootk with this issue i have to go back home to do that with ethernet
[12:37] <Elico> HO you need to reformat the usb to have a fat32 partition..
[12:37] <Elico> unetbootin is windows..
[12:38] <TJ-> sh0t: that's fine... you need to extract just the relevant failure entries from those logs anyhow, to make it easier to focus on by the developers
[12:40] <quem> good afternoon. installed 12.04.3 on a HP microserver. put in a 3tb drive (gpt, ext4) i've had attached to my laptop through usb2.
[12:40] <quem> and i can't find its partition.
[12:42] <TJ-> quem: what is "it"? The BIOS/UEFI, GRUB ?
[12:42] <mikubuntu> Elico: installing gparted
[12:42] <quem> TJ-: the harddrive.
[12:43] <Elico> mikubuntu: what?
[12:43] <__raven> xsane crash on 13.10: http://pastebin.com/3ua58Fy3 - ideas?
[12:43] <Elico> on what?
[12:43] <quem> TJ-: when i launch parted, it says it has a GPT partition table, but that it's 100% free space
[12:43] <quem> 100% unpartitioned space, i mean.
[12:44] <Elico> irgendwer4711: I have tried to install it on ubuntu server 12.04 but it wont run..
[12:44] <irgendwer4711> Elico: running?
[12:44] <mikubuntu> Elico: i need to format the usb to fat32 you said
[12:45] <Elico> mikubuntu: yes as far as I can tell.. windows has a partition manager for the with a gui..
[12:45] <Elico> irgendwer4711: it will not install properly on my 12.04 so I cannot even test it to run..
[12:45] <Elico> I can reinstall the server with 13.10
[12:46] <Han_nibal> hey, what command line can i use it to know my HDD buffsize (cache)
[12:46] <TJ-> quem: So, the micro-server now has 2 hard drives?
[12:47] <mikubuntu> Elico: why is gparted not recognizing usb drive?
[12:47] <quem> TJ-: it has three harddrives, two 2tb and one 3tb. they were directly connected through usb to my laptop before.. got the HP microserver to use as they made my laptop rather.. unportable.
[12:47] <Elico> it is probably recognizing but not sure what was done until now.
[12:47] <Elico> are you using windows?
[12:48] <Installer> Hi Guys, is it safe to replace unity with Gnome?
[12:48] <mikubuntu> Elico: oh, god no -- doing this from a ubuntustudio i just installed the other day -- thats why i don't have tools like gparted on it yet
[12:49] <TJ-> quem: Sounds as if the boot order is incorrect, assuming you correctly installed GRUB. Is the micro-server BIOS or UEFI, if BIOS, did GRUB install in legacy mode in the GPT with an EF02 boot partition?
[12:49] <Elico> HO then I was sure you were using windows :\
[12:50] <irgendwer4711> Elico: you can do an upgrade, if you want
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Installer  unity is a shell over gnome, i guess you mean gnome-shell
[12:50] <Installer> MonkeyDust: That's correct
[12:50] <quem> TJ-: good question. I think it's UEFI, and I did the "normal" install as I had grown tired of trying to install with a fawlty usb drive for three hours before it struck me.
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Installer  i'm using it myself, works like a charm
[12:50] <quem> so I'm not sure how GRUB was installed.
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Installer  12.04, that is
[12:51] <Installer> I got 13.10
[12:51] <Elico> NO NO I will install it from 0
[12:51] <quem> TJ-: i run the OS off a 16gb USB memory i have connected to its internal usb port.
[12:51] <Elico> quem: usb 1.1 ?
[12:51] <quem> the three SATA drives are strictly for storage.
[12:51] <TJ-> quem: Is the laptop UEFI too? If not, I'd guess GRUB would install in legacy mode, which would mean the micro-server needs to boot using the CSM in legacy mode
[12:51] <quem> Elico: usb 2
[12:51] <Elico> quem: what 16 GB memory?
[12:52] <TJ-> quem: then that definitely sounds like a boot order issue... it's looking at the HDDs first... correct that and it should be fine
[12:52] <mikubuntu> Elico: ok, i found the device partition for the usb in gparted -- how do i erase, reformat?
[12:52] <Elico> mikubuntu: make sure that there is no important data on it... if there is back it up...
[12:52] <quem> TJ-: the laptop is UEFI, but i enabled legacy mode or soemthing like that as I had trouble installing GRUB on it when I installed ubuntu two months ago.
[12:53] <quem> TJ-: i'll try that.
[12:53] <Elico> mikubuntu: if you use dd you dont need to partition..
[12:54] <mikubuntu> Elico: don't know how to use dd
[12:54] <Elico> it's a bit risky but you do have a linux system running so you would not have any troubles later bringing the USB back to place..
[12:54] <Elico> mikubuntu: I will help you if you need some help with it..
[12:55] <mikubuntu> no i just had finnux on it, now i'm going to use unet to replace finnux on the stick (unless you want to walk me thru dd)
[12:55] <Elico> if you want and when you want I'm here
[12:55] <Elico> dd is a pretty simple tool to use
[12:56] <Elico> just make sure you add a "-" at the start of the line before you are sure that the line is ready to be commited..
[12:57] <mikubuntu> Elico: is dd an app? or a commandline process?
[12:57] <Elico> command line tool
[12:57] <pvl1>  after I dd, I mess up my super block, and editing it via hexedit doesn't fix it
[12:57] <Elico> it should be present on any linux system
[12:58] <mikubuntu> Elico: i don't mind trying it
[12:58] <Elico> OK so it's a great tool
[12:58] <mikubuntu> Elico: just open a term, right?
[12:58] <Elico> yes
[12:58] <pvl1> Elico is there a way to edit super block
[12:58] <Elico> what device is the usb at?
[12:58] <Elico> pvl1: superblock for what?
[12:59] <pvl1> ext4 partition
[12:59] <Elico> pvl1: you need more then just to know superblock...
[12:59] <Elico> or to edit..
[12:59] <pvl1> I thought it begins after the first 1024 bytes of a partition
[12:59] <Elico> you better take it out of the drive and see what you can do with it manually and later on edit it..
[13:00] <Elico> pvl1: in most cases it is..
[13:00] <Elico> you can manually override it..
[13:00] <quem> TJ-: the usb flash drive is already set as 1st in the boot priority list.
[13:00] <pvl1> Elico the situation is that im dd'ing a partion larger than the target, but the actual data in source will fit in target
[13:01] <pvl1> doing a dd, errors the superblock
[13:01] <pvl1> on target
[13:01] <Elico> well it's not that important...
[13:01] <Ben64> you can't dd to something that is smaller
[13:01] <Elico> the basic thing to look is to first make sure that the usb and the iso fits each other in all parameters..
[13:01] <TJ-> pvl1: Can you not use "e2fsck -b XXX ..." to specify an alternate superblock?
[13:02] <pvl1> TJ- the problem is that I earlier accidentally did /dev/sdb to sdc rather than sdb1 to sdc1
[13:02] <TJ-> pvl1: ahh, if the target is smaller, you've truncated the file-system
[13:03] <pvl1> yup
[13:03] <Elico> pvl1: this is where it is important to make sure couple things before doing them...
[13:03] <Ben64> yeah, you can go to a larger target, but not smaller. it won't work
[13:03] <pvl1> but iknow that data will fiy
[13:03] <Ben64> just because it "will fit" doesn't mean it will work how you're doing it
[13:03] <pvl1> ugh so should I just shrink partition
[13:03] <Ben64> why not use something like rsync
[13:04] <pvl1> need grub
[13:04] <anuvrat> hi ... I need some help setting up a dhcp server
[13:04] <pvl1> I plan to boot from this
[13:05] <Ben64> yeah so resize the source to be able to fit
[13:05] <MorpHuis> Has any one successfully install ubuntu 13.10 with windows 8.1.
[13:06] <Ben64> !anyone | MorpHuis
[13:06] <pvl1> Ben64 alright thanks
[13:06] <pvl1> can parted shrink?
[13:06] <pvl1> I can only ssh atm
[13:07] <Ben64> yes parted can
[13:07] <pvl1> thanks
[13:08] <quem> TJ-: what do you think of using a later version of ubuntu?
[13:08] <MorpHuis> i tried all the tipes of installation that ubuntu forum offered and are now using it on windows 8.1 via virtual machine
[13:08] <quem> so weird that i can see the drive as 3tb in parted, but it appears as unpartitioned.. sigh.
[13:10] <TJ-> quem: I can't see the version making a difference. It sounds like a boot-order issue, complicated by the system being UEFI and the installation being Legacy. You need to investigate the micro-server configuration tools for that. It should have the option to boot a Legacy install using its Compatibility Support Module
[13:11] <quem> TJ-: i discovered the microserver isn't UEFI. my laptop is though.
[13:12] <TJ-> quem: Well that would make a difference, if you installed GRUB in EFI mode!
[13:12] <quem> how do i check in which manner grub was installed? as i let the installation program do that choice for me.
[13:13] <mikubuntu> Elico: i burned disc of finnux, set boot to cd -- but the machine says no bootable device, just as it did witht he usb
[13:14] <nolka> mother of god! O_o
[13:14] <MorpHuis> list
[13:14] <Elico> then it's something elese
[13:14] <Elico> turn off the machine and eject the battery for about 1 minute..
[13:14] <mikubuntu> ok
[13:15] <TJ-> quem: If you mount the USB device in a PC, and it has an EFI system partition (FAT/vfat with an EFI/ directory with sub-dirs, one of which contains grubx64.efi and similar boot files, it is EFI mode.)
[13:15] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys something bad happened, this is what comes out when I do $PATH
[13:15] <Wiz_KeeD> bash: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games: No such file or directory
[13:15] <Wiz_KeeD> what the hell is wrong with it? :(
[13:15] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: nothing at all
[13:16] <mikubuntu> Elico: unplug ac power also?
[13:16] <Elico> yes
[13:16] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD:  You're asking the shell to execute a path :)
[13:16] <Elico> before the battery..
[13:16] <quem> TJ-: ah, let me check that..
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> how  do I print my $PATH?
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> with echo right?
[13:16] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: "echo $PATH"
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> phew
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Got scared there for a sec
[13:17] <TJ-> "wiz keed" indeed! :D
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> do not make fun
[13:17]  * Wiz_KeeD sobs
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> XD
[13:18] <Wiz_KeeD> PATH="$_OLD_VIRTUAL_PATH:/opt/dir/bin"  I tried placing this inside the activate file of the python virtual enviroment to no avail
[13:19] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: try changing the order, put the inserted path first, if some process other than the one you expect, is being run.
[13:20]  * TJ- has to go ... 2 Huskies want to drag me around the farm!
[13:21] <Wiz_KeeD> haha, nice huskies are awesome
[13:21] <Wiz_KeeD> can you send a pic TJ- ? XD
[13:21] <Wiz_KeeD> lost those critters
[13:22] <sh0t> TJ-, I found an USB WiFi adapater which I'd like to use now instead of my RT3290...it is workign fine but the problem is that now at the boot also wlan0 (RT3290) is set up how do i disble that? (just for now)
[13:23] <mikubuntu> Elico: now should i plug it back in AND put the battery back in?
[13:27] <quem> TJ-: ugh. just connected it through usb to the laptop and it doesn't automount..
[13:28] <quem> anxiety attack.
[13:28]  * quem breathes
[13:28] <Mattias> On ubuntu 13.10, when I install phpunit it also fetche apache2 and starts it. This messes with nginx in an automatic installation and will cause nginx to fail to start when the nginx installation runs. Can you somehow tell the package manager to not pull in apache2 & co? And why would you need that when you use phpunit? What's wrong with php-fpm and php-cli?
[13:28] <Mattias> fetches*
[13:30] <mikubuntu> Elico: u still with me?
[13:35] <mikubuntu> if ever i am on life support, and not responding to treatment -- unplug me. then plug me back in. see if that works.
[13:36] <somsip> Mattias: OT recommendation would be to install phpunit with composer and run it from vendors/bin/phpunit
[13:40] <Mattias> I might just do that if I can't get vagrant to install phpunit with pear.
[13:40] <Kartagis> how do I disable the status notification applet?
[13:40] <repozitor> can define some specific command for specific user in ubuntu?
[13:40] <repozitor> can i*
[13:41] <soryy708> Last time I tried sending to this channel, it said that I cannot send to the channel.
[13:41] <soryy708> I wonder why is that so.
[13:41] <somsip> soryy708: well that just worked ok
[13:41] <soryy708> I can see that. Thanks for confirming, somsip
[13:41] <repozitor> i want to deny all accessing to ping ssh and ...
[13:41] <repozitor> for a specific user
[13:43] <soryy708> I have a problem with KDE-plasma that is in the Ubuntu repository (not kubuntu). Should I ask on #kde or can I ask here?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: like an alias of one command (or more) to a single command?
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> !ask | soryy708
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> soryy708: did you install plasma on a default ubuntu install?
[13:44] <soryy708> ActionParsnip: I believe so.
[13:45] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, in my linux, i have group names students, and i would like, student just can use gcc and cat and vim
[13:45] <repozitor> but i don't know how do it!
[13:45] <repozitor> named*
[13:45] <Elico> mikubuntu: here
[13:46] <soryy708> Well, another (possibly related?) issue is with Skype. I don't remember wether I got it from the repository or not though.  Basically, the "remember log in" feature doesn't work (even though the tickbox is ticked, I'm asked to log in again after a reboot). The problem with KDE-plasma is that it seems to forget that I've closed certain windows after I reboot.
[13:47] <TeraJL> i want to install ubuntu LTS, but the new TLS is almost out... should i install ubuntu 13.10 or 12.04 , if i want a more straightforward upgrade to the new LTS? or is the same? should i always do i clean install?
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> TeraJL  choose 12.04
[13:48] <cfhowlett> TeraJL, LTS to LTS install is quite easy.  clean install is recommended but not required.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: just generally, or using sudo?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: use 12.04 and you can upgrade directly to Trusty which is also LTS, in April 2014
[13:49] <TeraJL> thanks :)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> soryy708: then it is supported by the Ubuntu community :)
[13:49] <Walex> soryy708: you may need to explicitly save the session...
[13:50] <soryy708> Walex: a: How do I do that? b: Why doesn't it do that implicitly?
[13:50] <Walex> TeraJL: I agree, LTS is usually the best choice. With some backports for desktop stuff it is even better.
[13:50] <Walex> soryy708: it may do that implicitly, but session management is not always a reliable thing. It relies on a slightly hairy protocol.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> TeraJL, LTS only means WAY fewer headaches ... unless you truly need the latest, greatest shiny version
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> TeraJL  where "latest" not always means "greatest"
[13:51] <Walex> TeraJL: I personally upgrade LTS with the latest Xorg and KDE from the relevant PPAs, and little else.
[13:53] <soryy708> Ok, short googling seems to have found me a method to explicitly save the session
[13:53] <ddssc> need some help mounitng a samba share on ubuntu computer. tried this http://blog.ubuntulinuxguide.com/2013/07/mount-samba-smb-shared-folder-ubuntu.html failed. halp?
[13:54] <tomixxx> hi, plz help me ^^
[13:54] <tomixxx> i have two network cards
[13:54] <tomixxx> in one computer
[13:54] <somsip> !enter | tomixxx
[13:55] <Wilkim> Hello
[13:55] <tomixxx> it seems, that one of the network cards does not work because i observed the following: if i connect eth0 (onbard) with the university network, i get an IP and can surfe in the internet, but if i connect eth1 (pci) to the university network, i get NO ip and i CANNOT surf in the internet
[13:56] <Wilkim> I am a noob so I am still new to linux.
[13:56] <tomixxx> so do i simply have sth to configure or is a card broken?
[13:56] <tomixxx> when i hit ifconfig, i can see both ethernet cards
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> tomixxx: what chip does the PCI Ethernet care use?
[13:57] <tomixxx> dunno, where can i see this?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> tomixxx: sudo lshw -C network
[13:57] <Wilkim> If I install Ubuntu Desktop without any desktop gui packages is that the same install as ubuntu server with only ssh-server selected during install. Or does the server include extra packages? (Not talking about packages you can select during install like apache, mysql, etc.)
[13:57] <gregf_> hello, i've got install of ubuntu using virtualbox. my local machine is messed up(as i installed php5.3.x from source)
[13:58] <gregf_> now i needed to install 5.3.x with all deps( mysql/apache/ etc)
[13:58] <somsip> Wilkim: server has some additional packages as standard, like postgresql
[13:58] <tomixxx> ActionParnsnip: terminal says: lshw: command not found
[13:58] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, i need hint,
[13:58] <repozitor> i want to establish a system, which be able to accessed for 40 users,
[13:58] <repozitor> every user need to use vim, gcc, g++, cat, less commands
[13:58] <repozitor> which one is better?
[13:58] <repozitor> ubuntu-desktop
[13:58] <repozitor> or ubuntu-server
[13:58] <gregf_> s/(5\.3\.x)/php 5.3.x/
[13:58] <Wilkim> somsip thank you, I just always wondered.
[13:59] <somsip> ubottu: I'd put minimal desktop on if I were you. No strong reason except it's clean
[13:59] <Wilkim> Do you or anyone know where I can get a torrent or alterantive download for the latest ubuntu-server as the site is going way to slow for me atm =/
[13:59] <somsip> repozitor: I'd put minimal desktop on if I were you. No strong reason except it's clean
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: just generally, or using sudo?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: desktop is good if you want a desktop OS
[13:59] <gregf_> somsip: please if you could suggest some solution(s) :/. i've googled for this and i should've been up and running a week ago
[13:59] <gregf_> s/i/it/
[14:00] <soryy708> I tried saving the session manually, but that didn't quite work. It still loads an older session.
[14:00] <somsip> gregf_: I think we covered this a few days ago. You did an ugly thing, and you will have problems correcting it. so much so, that reinstalling maybe the only way to go.
[14:00] <Wilkim> nevermind, found a torrent :)
[14:01] <gregf_> somsip: well i've got a new install in virtualbox. and i wanted to repeat the steps on this new install ;)
[14:01] <somsip> gregf_: repeat what steps?
[14:02] <gregf_> installing php5.3.x
[14:02] <tomixxx> ActionParnsnip: i have done this now http://askubuntu.com/questions/296152/how-to-check-what-is-my-network-card-on-ubuntu and the info is: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co, Ltd. RTL 8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev02), Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. M3a78-eh motherboard
[14:02] <somsip> gregf_: what version of ubuntu have you installed?
[14:02] <gregf_> 12.10
[14:02] <somsip> !info php5 quantal
[14:03] <Wiz_KeeD> How does one change ALL locale settings to en_US.utf-8
[14:03] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[14:03] <gregf_> somsip: sorry 12.04
[14:03] <somsip> !info php5 precise
[14:03] <somsip> gregf_: so you're on 5.3.X already
[14:03] <gregf_> somsip: well i dont know. is it installed by default?
[14:04] <somsip> gregf_: if you install/update php5 on 12.04 using official repos, you will be on 5.3.10
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[14:04] <gregf_> somsip: let me try
[14:04] <iptable> Wiz_KeeD: apt-get --force-yes -y install language-pack-en
[14:04] <iptable> locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
[14:04] <iptable> update-locale LANG="en_US.UTF-8" LANGUAGE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" LC_CTYPE="C"
[14:05] <gregf_> sompsip: and if i install ubuntu 13.x?
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> are you sure I ned to install the language back if it's allready there and re-genrate?
[14:05] <somsip> gregf_: fo !info php5 {version}
[14:05] <somsip> *do
[14:05] <iptable> Wiz_KeeD: I gave you the instructions in full. Do adapt to your own needs and requirements.
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you iptable
[14:06] <iptable> Wiz_KeeD: also some debian/ubuntu specific stuff on locale: sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[14:07] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, hhhm, yes, i like to users access to the other command instead of these with sudo password
[14:07] <gregf_> somsip: well should i try and install php5 and see what version gets installed?
[14:07] <iptable> Wiz_KeeD: and this one from ubuntu website: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup. Although note I always used the update-locale and it worked for me
[14:07] <Layke> Another fun issue... after fixing my previous dependency issue by removing some bad libqtcore, after a restart, I can't boot into ubuntu/ubuntu-2d. I've tried install unity-2d, but get http://pastie.org/8671997
[14:07] <Layke> Is there something that I can do? Would like to get unity session back
[14:08] <somsip> gregf_: no, do "!info php5 {version}" and see what it gets you and then you will know what will be installed. But hey, go for it your way
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: then you ill need command groups and users in groups to make them be a
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> able to run those with sudo
[14:08] <gregf_> somsip: well does it print to the stdout?
[14:08] <somsip> gregf_: in IRC
[14:08] <iptable> Layke: try aptitude install unity-2d as opposed to apt-get. it might tell you what it thinks about the dependencies
[14:08] <gregf_> :/
[14:09] <gregf_> !info php5 {version}
[14:09] <tomixxx> ActionParnsksnfkwora
[14:09] <tomixxx> sorry
[14:10] <tomixxx> ActionParnsnip: it always popup "wired network: disconnected"
[14:10] <tomixxx> maybe i need to adjust the bandwidht?
[14:11] <dika> hello all ! :)
[14:11] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, can you get me proper link to do that?
[14:11] <Layke> iptable, It suggested I do stuff. I'm not quite sure what it wants from me: http://pastie.org/8672011
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/sudo-command-examples/
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: no idea what a 'proper link' is
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: but there is a link...
[14:12] <repozitor> i mean tutorial
[14:12] <irgendwer4711> Elico: success with 13.10?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/246455/how-to-give-nopasswd-access-to-multiple-commands-via-sudoers
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[14:13] <Elico> still testing other things so it waits but the installation was finished if I am right..
[14:14] <iptable> Layke: read the output. It's saying that unity-2d needs version of common 5.10.0 but you got 5.14.0 installed. that's why it cannot install. it's proposed action is not to install unity-2d. it asks if you are happy with this solution. Press n and see if it proposes a downgrade-and-make-it-work solution
[14:14] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, so my student must enter a sudo password, if their cmd are out of their valid command pool, right?
[14:15] <Wilkim> Just wondering, how much more RAM (estimated) does Ubuntu Server x64 (v13) use out of the box with an identical equivalent of debian (without the desktop experience), with no packages selected, as in no ssh-server, no lamp, etc.
[14:15] <iptable> repozitor: if the user is not root and the application can only be run as root, the 'student' will need to sudo application, yes.
[14:15] <iptable> repozitor: that is the correct way and people using linux should learn to use sudo when needed.
[14:16] <iptable> Wilkim: why do you say "more"?
[14:17] <iptable> Wilkim: ubuntu server naked install on ext4 on my system with nothing added uses about 60mb of RAM. That includes me being logged in and executing the free -m. I'm sure if you blacklist the modules you don't need, you will use even less.
[14:17] <iptable> Wilkim: not sure about debian, never tried to see how much RAM it needs.
[14:17] <shreezbot> I had to install Ubuntu on my server using the alternate install disk is there a good way to convert this to the server install?
[14:17] <Wilkim> well, when it comes to vmware Workstation, if I select Ubuntu x64, it defaults to 1GB ram, but thats probably because its expecting a full blown desktop experiance and all, debian 7 x64 defaults to 512MB, so it got me wondering.
[14:18] <iptable> shreezbot: what did an alternate disk install?
[14:18] <soryy708> Hi. I think that KDE (plasma and others) don't have proper permissions. How do I verify that and (if required) give them the permissions they require to operate properly?
[14:18] <Wilkim> If I had to guess debian installs less, as you have to do apt-get install sudo to even have sudo without the desktop experiance, and in ubuntu-server it comes default so I assume more comes with debian than ubuntu-server
[14:18] <iptable> shreezbot: if you got nothing installed on that alternate disk, and running standard ubuntu kernel, you already have a "server install". install the stuff you need and done.
[14:19] <shreezbot> iptable, Why did I do the alternate install?  I had issues with the installer on the server disk locking up on me.
[14:19] <iptable> Wilkim: sudo is not loaded into RAM until you run it, so no. That's got nothing to do with it. A system running empty is kernel+modules+soem libraries+whatever starts from init.
[14:20] <shreezbot> iptable, Doesn't the server exclude a bunch of "desktop stuff" you don't need, like Unity?
[14:20] <iptable> Wilkim: if you disable stuff you don't need to not start on both, and blacklist the modules you don't need on both, you end up having the same system. It's a matter of which kernel is bigger
[14:20] <ansrster> Whenever I boot from a livedisc on my laptop (win 8 pre installed) even with safeboot off it just loads up without the GUI, does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  server doenst come with a GUI at all
[14:20] <iptable> shreezbot: so I am asking what you have installed with alternate install?
[14:21] <iptable> shreezbot: there is a way to boot the server installer btw in a way it will allow you to complete installation using ssh from a remote machine ;) but I guess the problem is more complicated.
[14:21] <gregf_> somsip: thanks
[14:21] <Wilkim> iptable I figured, I was just wondering, thank you for the information :)
[14:21] <tomixxx> how do i find out which LINUX kernel driver is nunning behind my ubuntu?
[14:21] <iptable> shreezbot: I would say aptitude purge unity unity-2d etc... to make it a "server" install. compare what is and isn't installed on ubuntu server and remove it using aptitude purge from current install.
[14:21] <iptable> Wilkim: no problem.
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> tomixxx  uname -r
[14:21] <tomixxx> tx
[14:21] <somsip> tomixxx: uname -r
[14:22] <iptable> tomixxx: are you connecting from a mobile to IRC?
[14:22] <ansrster> anyone?
[14:22] <shreezbot> iptable, Oh wow, that would have been super good to know!  If I didn't alread have my server configured with the applications I'm running, I would go back and redo it...
[14:22] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[14:22] <tomixxx> iptable: no, from my laptop via wlan
[14:22] <ansrster>  Whenever I boot from a livedisc on my laptop (win 8 pre installed) even with safeboot off it just loads up without the GUI, does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:22] <iptable> tomixxx: use full sentences please
[14:22] <shreezbot> iptable, I think Unity is probably the only thing that I really dont' need quite frankly.
[14:23] <iptable> ansrster: I would say install a GUI... need more infor please. what have you tried, distro, what is the GUI, etc
[14:23] <ikonia> errr it's a "livecd"
[14:23] <ikonia> so "install a gui" doesn't seem a good fix
[14:23] <iptable> shreezbot: pretty much I would say. aptitude purge unity unity-2d should fix that
[14:23] <ansrster> Yeah
[14:23] <jeet> are xubuntu and ubuntu the same thing except for the desktop environment?
[14:23] <iptable> oh, missed the livecd thingie. still, what distro and what DE?
[14:23] <ikonia> it's probably droping to the busy box shell due to lack of disk being avilable, or not loading the X11 session due to the video card
[14:24] <ansrster> ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <bgardner> jeet: Yes
[14:24] <jeet> thanks
[14:24] <iptable> ansrster: what's the prompt you are getting?
[14:24] <ansrster> Deault DE so unity, but i've had the same issue with Gnome
[14:24] <ansrster> not sure what you mean by prompt, it's just booting up from the command line
[14:25] <ikonia> that is a prompt
[14:25] <ikonia> the command line is a prompt
[14:25] <ansrster> then that
[14:25] <jeet> which version should i go with? i see 13.10 is the newest, is that good?
[14:25] <iptable> what is the line you are getting in the command prompt? I need that to know if you are in busybox/shell etc
[14:25] <k1l_> jeet: yes, that is good
[14:25] <jeet> thanks
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> jeet  12.04 if you want long support, 13.10 if you want the latest stuff
[14:26] <jeet> i just want to learn
[14:26] <jeet> so is 13.10 okay?
[14:26] <jeet> i guess so?
[14:26] <ansrster> erm, it's just showing up with $home there is a welcome message too
[14:27] <iptable> ansrster: ok, run dmesg. see if it gives you any errors regarding your graphics card. what is your machine btw?
[14:28] <ansrster> c50d-a-13v
[14:28] <irgendwer4711> Elico: ok...
[14:28] <ansrster> toshiba I'll get back on the result
[14:28] <ansrster> need to reboot
[14:32] <ansrster> iptable: dumped a lot of stuff, what should I look for specifically
[14:33] <soryy708> I'd like to formally remind you about my last query.
[14:33] <TriBeCa99> I just finished intializing a Raid 6 on an Areca hardware controller, can someone tell me how to figure out which /dev/ is the array?
[14:33] <greys> mdadm --detail /dev/md127
[14:33] <iptable> ansrster: anything that would say error or something similar on the issue of graphics card. alternately, you can pastebinit (it's a tool you can install) for us to see
[14:34] <iptable> ansrster: out of couriosity, what IS the laptop? saying toshiba doesn't say a lot.
[14:34] <ansrster>  c50d-a-13v
[14:35] <ansrster> how would I go about that pastebin
[14:35] <TriBeCa99> greys: if that was directed at me, "no such file or directory"
[14:35] <iptable> ansrster: does it have internet connection (the laptop) right now? try dig google.com +short
[14:37] <ansrster> no connection right now, can I do that from cl?
[14:37] <ansrster> or will I need an ethernet
[14:39] <kiwi_> hi ... how can i download or capture *embedded* flash videos?
[14:39] <iptable> ansrster: have you tried later ubuntu by the way? 13.10 etc?
[14:39] <kiwi_> any ubuntu tools?
[14:40] <ansrster> mhm
[14:40] <ansrster> not just ubuntu, when I try Elementary it can't load up at all
[14:40] <greys> TriBeCa99: well the same command with /dev/md0 or /dev/md1 may also work - in different distros default number is different
[14:40] <iptable> ansrster: you will have tyo go through dmesg and /var/log/X.org... etc to find an error
[14:40] <Beast_> I had a problem with a toshiba too, a satallite L350D. It'd get really hot to the point where it'd power it self off
[14:41] <iptable> ansrster: or try /etc/init.d/gdm start or /etc/init.d/lightdm start - see if they produce an error
[14:41] <TriBeCa99> greys: md0 is the softRaid 1 ubuntu is installed on. I just set up the hardware (not fake) Raid 6, but I'm not seeing it in /dev/
[14:43] <Beast_> apparently some kernel module (for a netbook model) would have worked but no longer available
[14:43] <TriBeCa99> any chance the raid 6 is showing up as /dev/sda for some reason? My 3 raid 1 disks appear to be sdb, sdc, and sdd--no idea what sda would be otherwise
[14:43] <greys> TriBeCa99: I see. So you configured in on the RAID controller or in your BIOS. Then check dmesg, it should show a new device registering upon reboot (probably /dev/sd*)
[14:44] <ansrster> given me this error message
[14:44] <TriBeCa99> greys: Yes--I'm not seeing where in dmsg it defines the dev/sd*
[14:46] <vlad_starkov> Guys, recommend me please a tiny Linux distributive that will let me boot from USB flash and to make some recovery procedures in bash (I'll need dm-crypt, mdadm and mc). Thanks.
[14:46] <ansrster> rejected send message, 1 matched rules: type="method_call", sender=":1.22" (uid=999 pid=3343 comm="start lightdm ") interface="com.ubuntu.upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" request_reply="0" destinatiom="com.ubuntu.upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init") iptable
[14:47] <tomixxx> sudo ifup eth1 takes a few minutes then it stop and starts the process. it this normal?
[14:47] <tomixxx> however, i get no ip assigned to the eth1 device from the dhcp server
[14:47] <greys> TriBeCa99: do this then, to identify all the /dev/sd* disks - should be possible to see which ones are single HDDs vs the RAID6 array you've just created. hdparm -i /dev/sd*
[14:48] <Wilkim> jw, when linux boots up, of any sort, I always notice [ #.########## ] starting from like 0.0###### to 11.#######, is that like the percentage booted or somthing?
[14:48] <iptable> ansrster: did you do that with sudo / as root?
[14:48] <TriBeCa99> nm, got it--it's sda as I thought
[14:48] <TriBeCa99> thanks for your help
[14:49] <TriBeCa99> 24 TB Raid 6 woooooo
[14:49] <ansrster> no, I'll do it as root
[14:49] <greys> TriBeCa99: wow! :)
[14:50] <ansrster> starting some stuff up now
[14:50] <pwaleczek> hey guys, I don't know if it's related to ubuntu specifically, but that's my vps os. I'm in a picke with processes which are spawning multiple sub-processes, I'm confused why's that happening.
[14:53] <pwaleczek> to be more specific, lte's say I start my mongodb instance, it spawnd multiple sub-processes with their ow pids, and then I run my node server, it has got ~4 sub-processes although I'm not clustering it and I've got oly one logical cpu in my vm
[14:54] <ansrster> any idea how long this should take
[14:55] <iptable> ansrster: a few seconds up to a minute if you have no correct driver
[14:56] <Enfo> Hello all. I've set up a NFSv4 server according to the wiki and I have a problem. I need to create a hard link between two sub-folders (/export/client1/dir1/ and /export/client1/dir2/) on the pseudo filesystem, but this apparently isnt possible because the two directories (which are mounted with mount --bind) are in practice two different file systems. Is there any way around this?
[14:57] <tomixxx> i can see eth1 care but it does not get any ip from dhcp server. "interfaces" file is edited already: auto eth1 \\ iface eth1 inet dhcp
[14:57] <tomixxx> -care,
[14:57] <tomixxx> +card
[14:58] <tomixxx> does anyone know what the problem could be?
[14:58] <iptable> tomixxx: do you have the isc-dhcp-client package installed?
[14:59] <iptable> tomixxx: run `which dhclient` to see if you have dhcp client
[14:59] <ansrster> the last thing it said is * Stoping system V runlevel compatalibilty [OK] and nothing since
[14:59] <tomixxx> iptable: if i try it with my other etherncard, card, i get an ip over dhcp
[14:59] <solofight> i am installing ubuntu on my laptop - i read the tutorial that i need to create a root (similar to c: on windows) and swap (which should be equal to ram size and for higher size disk, double the ram size)...... Now i have a 500 GB disk on which 250 GB i am allocating for ubuntu... so should i leave 8gb swap or 16 gb swap ?? (my ram is 8Gb)
[14:59] <tomixxx> iptable: terminal says /sbin/dhclient
[15:00] <iptable> tomixxx: so it's only an issue for one interface? cable faulty?
[15:00] <dyu> how do i let an ssh-dss key login to my machine? ssh-rsa keys work fine. 12.04
[15:00] <tomixxx> iptable: yes, only one interface
[15:01] <tomixxx> iptable and it is not the cable
[15:01] <iptable> tomixxx: if eth0 is disabled, does eth1 get dhcp address by any chance?
[15:01] <tomixxx> iptable: so i should run "sudo ifdown eth0" ?
[15:02] <iptable> tomixxx: did you service networking restart once you changed interfaces file?
[15:02] <tomixxx> whenever i change "interfaces" file, i do ifdown or ifup on the edited ethernet card
[15:03] <iptable> tomixxx: that doesn't necessarily work.
[15:03] <tomixxx> iptable: ok, so what could i do?
[15:04] <FireStorms> Is dual booting linux and windows a security threat to linux when logged into the windows os?
[15:04] <iptable> tomixxx: service networking restart
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: no because Windows cannot access Ext4
[15:05] <FireStorms> ActionParsnip, support for etx4 can be gotten for windows
[15:05] <tomixxx> iptable: what is the command for this and is it the same if i simply reboot the computer?
[15:05] <iptable> tomixxx: service networking restart
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  still, windows malware wouldnt work in linux
[15:06] <iptable> tomixxx: and yes, if you just reboot, it will have the same effect
[15:06] <tomixxx> iptable: k, because i have rebooted but it does not help
[15:06] <FireStorms> MonkeyDust, but could files be accessed?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  i've never read anywhere that it could, so no
[15:06] <fer755> MonkeyDust dont worry only malware related to nic's and so are minimal
[15:07] <tomixxx> if i do "sudo service networking restart" it says : "stop: unknown instance: networking stop/waiting"
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> fer755  i'm not worrying, better tell it to FireStorms
[15:07] <iptable> tomixxx: put only eth1 declaration into /etc/network/interfaces, no eth0. Then reboot. Just for the sake of it. If that doesn't fix it, it will be 1. network driver or 2. cable or 3. the switch/port it's plugged into
[15:08] <fer755> routers, isp servers etc etc
[15:08] <FireStorms> The answer is yes anyway, it's possible to access a linux partion on windows http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[15:08] <tomixxx> iptable: ok, i will try
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  what is your actual issue?
[15:10] <iptable> FireStorms: no, it's impossible unless you install a 3rd party driver as administrative user
[15:10] <NastyNaz> i have a .conf in /etc/init that starts genericdaemon on system start. genericdaemon is now running, how do I stop it?
[15:10] <FireStorms> MonkeyDust, No issue, just concerned about security; I use linux for work, but would like to use windows for 'play' without adding any security risks.
[15:11] <iptable> FireStorms: "security" of what? Linux cannot get windows viruses. Your only concern would be some virus which will remove all files after installing ext2 driver...
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> !av | FireStorms do some reading here
[15:11] <tomixxx> iptable: i reboot now and ubuntu splash screen says "waitinng for network configuration..."
[15:12] <FireStorms> iptable, I know, but I don't want anyone getting access to my projects on linux whilst on windows
[15:12] <iptable> tomixxx: I would say 1. cable or 2. network card driver or 3. switch/port that the cable is plugged into
[15:12] <tomixxx> iptable: it is not the cable!!! ^^
[15:12] <iptable> FireStorms: you should use encryption for your /home in that case
[15:12] <iptable> tomixxx: tried with another cable I'm guessing.
[15:13] <tomixxx> iptable: y, i have 3k cables here :D
[15:13] <iptable> tomixxx: ok, 2 options left. are you sure it's not a switch/port? Switch could be allowing dhcp only for a particular mac (mac locking), etc...
[15:14] <tomixxx> iptable: i dont know, i have no access to the switch which connects me to the university-network
[15:14] <tomixxx> iptable: maybe i have the wrong network driver installed
[15:15] <tomixxx> hmm
[15:15] <iptable> tomixxx: I would guess it could be switch blocking. contact the network admin.
[15:15] <tomixxx> iptable: good idea, because some time ago, i had to give them the MAC address of my laptop too
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  look at the big title http://www.ubuntu.com/
[15:16] <FireStorms> MonkeyDust, haha cool, would this apply to linux mint too?
[15:16] <iptable> tomixxx: :/ right. that would be why. It's mac-locking. they need to add another mac to it.
[15:17] <iptable> FireStorms: yes. linux mint is ubuntu with another GUI
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> more or less
[15:17] <shreezbot> Ok, so I removed Unity and now when I do a "sudo reboot" it doesn't reboot.  If I do "sudo reboot now" it will reboot, but when it comes up, it comes up to the GRUB menu where I have to select an option before it will boot Ubuntu, then I don't seem to be able to do anything from there...  :(
[15:17] <fer755> iptable> cinnamon?
[15:18] <iptable> yes
[15:19] <repozitor> iptable, in /etc/sudoers
[15:19] <repozitor> %programmers indicate a group filtering?
[15:19] <Xuisce1> hi all
[15:19] <tomixxx> iptable: thank you so far. i have already contacted a network admin. :-)
[15:20] <repozitor> let me please to describe what i need.
[15:20] <repozitor> there are 40 users, and this users MUST use only 3 commands -> gcc, g++, vim
[15:20] <repozitor> i move these 40 users into a group named std.
[15:21] <repozitor> but they now have access to ping, but i like to deny them!
[15:22] <trijntje> repozitor: even if you get that, can't they just compile ping themselves and run it?
[15:23] <Dureiken> Hi there, could someone help me : I can't boot to Ubuntu (13.10 and 12.04) with 3 AMD GPU, it worked with 2, 3 days I'm on it without success. Thanks a lot
[15:23] <repozitor> trijntje, no can't
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> Dureiken  what happens when you try?
[15:24] <Dureiken> Monkeydust : xorg don't initialize, stuck on UBUNTU or black screen
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | Dureiken try this
[15:24] <Dureiken> I can access via ssh, tried aticonfig --initial --adapter=all without success
[15:26] <repozitor> trijntje, i like to create this system,
[15:26] <repozitor> every users of std group, can login with their ssh account
[15:26] <repozitor> and in terminal, they can run only 3 command (gcc, g++, vim)
[15:26] <repozitor> so tell me how to do it?
[15:27] <trijntje> repozitor: I dont know how to do this, but you don't want users to be able to run the programs they compile?
[15:28] <llutz> repozitor: you have to create a jail/chroot-env containing only the commands and all libs etc they need.
[15:28] <repozitor> trijntje, they can run the program they compiled by gcc or g+=
[15:28] <repozitor> g++
[15:29] <llutz> repozitor: like http://allanfeid.com/content/creating-chroot-jail-ssh-access
[15:29] <trijntje> repozitor: so that won't work, because evil users will just download the source code for 'ping', compile it and run it anyway
[15:29] <solofight> is 20 gb enough for /     ?? am installing ubuntu 12
[15:30] <trijntje> solofight: yes, but unless you have a separate /home you'll only have ~15G available
[15:30] <fer755> unless u create a group net and negate the acces to all not it to net things
[15:30] <solofight> trijntje: yes i am planning to put home of 230gb
[15:30] <solofight> thank you
[15:30] <repozitor> trijntje, hhmm propably, but users are nobew!
[15:31] <llutz> repozitor: mount their homes noexec
[15:33] <repozitor> llutz, can you explain more about what you mean?
[15:34] <llutz> repozitor: jail your users, let them write only into their homes, mount those with noexec option. then they shouldn't be able to compile/run stuff you don't want. but they also won't be able to the stuff they need g++/gcc for
[15:35] <llutz> compile+run*
[15:35] <repozitor> llutz, and you link tell how to that, right?
[15:36] <repozitor> your*
[15:36] <repozitor> to do*
[15:36] <llutz> repozitor: no its just the basic chroot/jail setup
[15:36] <repozitor> oh my god!
[15:36] <solofight> when i select install now option after creating a / /home and /swap -- it says the parition table format in use on your disks mormally RedDeatquires you to create a seperate partition for boot loader code. this partition should be marked for use as "Reserved BIOS boot area................ if you dont go back to paritioning menu and correct this error ...." how do i correct this message ?
[15:36] <repozitor> hhhmm, i need something like jail for them
[15:37] <solofight> should i press continue or go back ?
[15:37] <computer> hello
[15:37] <computer> i got ubuntu12.04.03 but no sound
[15:38] <oaulakh> hello you all
[15:38] <oaulakh> i'm using ubuntu studio,but dont know how to decrease brightness
[15:39] <iptable> solofight: as per the message, go back to partitioner and create a small (10MB will do) partition at the beginning, called "Reserved BIOS boot area". Partition the rest as required.
[15:40] <iptable> solofight: you need to go back. without that partition you cannot boot. I'm guessing your HDD is over 2TB in size.
[15:40] <shreezbot> This is strange...  The GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT option doesn't seem to be working at all...  My machine just sits at the GRUB menu forever...
[15:41] <iptable> computer: lspci/lsusb output please (please run as root and put to pastebin).
[15:41] <iptable> shreezbot: that's not HIDDEN_TIMEOUT. That's TIMEOUT
[15:41] <iptable> shreezbot: HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is when you enable hidden option
[15:42] <fer755> shreezbot> its 0 change to 1 or so
[15:43] <Touhou11> oaulakh: Adjust colour profiles, or use the buttons on your monitor
[15:43] <gregf_> hi, is there a way to resolve this: sudo apt-get install -f openssh-server (The following packages have unmet dependencies. openssh-server : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.16) but 2.15-0ubuntu20.2 is to be installed
[15:43] <computer> iptable> hi thx for your help, how to do lspici lsub?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> gregf_  what ubuntu version?
[15:43] <shreezbot> iptable, I have GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 and it still sits there forever.
[15:43] <gregf_> monkeyDust:12.10
[15:44] <iptable> gregf_: when was the last time you ran apt-get update?
[15:44] <hggdh> shreezbot: this may happen when the previous boot failed
[15:44] <llutz> gregf_: sudo apt-get update
[15:44] <gregf_> well i've run it how many times i've lost count :/
[15:44] <Touhou11> gregf_: Update
[15:44] <iptable> computer: just run: sudo lspci; sudo lsusb
[15:44] <oaulakh> not working
[15:44] <oaulakh> already done thats why i'm come here
[15:44] <shreezbot> hggdh, Well, I'm having a strange issue with the use of reboot.  When I use reboot, it won't reboot the machine.  I have to use "reboot now"
[15:45] <shreezbot> Just a straight "sudo reboot" seems to do nothing.
[15:45] <gregf_> is there a way to fix : E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  your question being?
[15:45] <computer> iptable http://pastebin.com/FqEZRhVe
[15:45] <llutz> gregf_: apt-mark unhold <package-in-question>
[15:46] <shreezbot> MonkeyDust, Well, I'd love to know how in the world to figure out why "sudo reboot" isn't working...
[15:46] <gregf_> llutz: would that not install the said package?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  "now" is a parameter for reboot, you can also delay the reboot command, that's all
[15:46] <spartacurse> so err... I just did a # shutdown now on a machine 47 metric miles from here, nobody is on the site, any rescue or should I migrate to venus?
[15:46] <solofight> iptable: the hdd is 520 gb..... if i do that it wont affect my win8 partition boots right ?
[15:46] <llutz> gregf_: sure, but if you want to fix the packages, you'll need to
[15:46] <sona> hi
[15:47] <iptable> computer: Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device aac0
[15:47] <solofight> iptable: forgot to tell that i am trying to do a dual boot where the ubuntu by default did not detect the win8 os in hdd
[15:47] <solofight> iptable: so now by creation this bios 10mb partition - it wont affect right ?
[15:47] <iptable> computer: does AMD have a linux driver for your motherboard?
[15:47] <whoever> hi all i am tring to assign a shortcut key under setttings> keyboard> shortcuts  and the setting don't appear to be working can someone assist
[15:48] <repozitor> during install jailkit i see this error
[15:48] <repozitor> undefined reference to `pthread_create'
[15:48] <repozitor> how to install pthread libs?
 hi I don't know lol, will check google
[15:48] <gregf_> llutz: i get the message : package was already not hold.
[15:48] <iptable> solofight: it will. you cannot createa a partition on the start without removing your win8 partition. Using EFI?
[15:48] <gregf_> llutz: i'm really confused. is there a way to get a clean apt?
[15:48] <llutz> gregf_: maybe your mirror isn't synced completely atm and it holds back updates. wait a while if possible and try again
[15:49] <computer> iptable what is my motherboard lol
[15:49] <iptable> gregf_: or change mirror
[15:49] <whoever> i have clicked custom shorcuts > plus sign, given a name to the shortcut, in the command i put firefox , clicked apply, set the shortcut to ctrl+F9 and nothing happens when i hit ctrl+F9
[15:49] <Layke> I'm trying to fix my repo issues. I still can't install certain packages. This time I'm trying to install wine... http://pastie.org/8672271
[15:49] <gregf_> llutz: how could i change mirror? is it by changing the sources list?
[15:49] <solofight> iptable: ou cannot createa a partition on the start without removing your win8 partition ?
[15:49] <solofight> EFI ?
[15:49] <iptable> computer: please check with your hardware manufacturer. Check the model/make of your laptop and try on the manufacturer website
[15:49] <Layke> Getting an unmet dependency : wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-amd64 (= 1:1.7.11-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[15:50] <gregf_> llutz: /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[15:50] <computer> iptable ok, I will be back
[15:50] <shreezbot> MonkeyDust, Yes, but the problem that I'm having is that I should be able to just do a "sudo reboot" and it should reboot the machine.  I don't understand why it isn't rebooting when I do that...
[15:50] <llutz> spartacurse: no remote control over the machine, no wakeonlan possible, nothing? saturn or venus would be fine then
[15:50] <Layke> Learning from my previous issues, I think it's because I have installed something previously that is conflicting? So am I suposed to remove that package? And then try?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Layke: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[15:50] <iptable> solofight: I'm guessing you will have to remove all partitions and start over to get this working. sorry.
[15:50] <Layke> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> !info wine1.7 precise
[15:50] <solofight> iptable: including win8 ?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Layke: are you using a PPA?
[15:51] <Layke> ActionParsnip, Originally no. That was failing. Then I added the wine PPA
[15:51] <Layke> It was failing for 1.4
[15:51] <iptable> solofight: you already have a partition on the start where you need reserved bios boot area to dual-boot. therefore you would need to remove it.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Layke: we cannot support PPAs here
[15:51] <Layke> !info wine1.4 precise
[15:51] <llutz> gregf_: yes /etc/apt/sources.list and the files in sources.list.d/*
[15:51] <Layke> That's what I was trying
[15:51] <Layke> I'll remove the PPA
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  yes, this says so too, lemme try on other machine http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shutdown-ubuntu-linux-computer/
[15:52] <gregf_> llutz: should i clear everything from there?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Layke: once you remove it, run the command in step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:52] <solofight> iptable: in the partition screen amongst various partitions,,, when i scroll to the far left it says free space 1.0mb and the same on the far right.... both the beginning and ending of the disk is free space with 1mb
[15:52] <iptable> whoever: did you specify full path for the shortcut, or just "firefox"?
[15:52] <llutz> gregf_: just replace the main-ubuntu-mirrors if you really want that
[15:52] <llutz> gregf_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[15:53] <solofight> iptable: are you saying that win8 has already created the bios boot area and i need to remove that and create a new for the ubuntu ? if yes how to identify which partition to remove ?
[15:53] <iptable> solofight: you need slightly more for BIOS boot area from what I remember. you can try to create it at the start on the 1MB, but I doubt it will work.give it a shot.
[15:53] <gregf_> llutz: other than the mirrors, would it be possible to also fix the unmet dependencies error please?
[15:53] <iptable> solofight: no. you have windows as first partition, right?
[15:53] <llutz> gregf_: maybe your mirror isn't synced completely atm and it holds back updates. wait a while if possible and try again
[15:53] <solofight> iptable: yes
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  sudo reboot reboots on 12.04, ok, i wondre what's wrong on your pc
[15:54] <gregf_> llutz: well i've been trying for hours altogether and i am where i was 4 hours back :/
[15:54] <llutz> gregf_: "a while" might take days
[15:54] <shreezbot> MonkeyDust, Yea, that's what I'm having trouble figuring out...  It is very strange...
[15:54] <gregf_> is it possible to restore my file system to a previous state :/
[15:55] <iptable> solofight: in that case, linux needs some space at the beginning, before windows, in order to put some boot code. It cannot since windows is already there. you do need to remove windows partition and createa that boot area and windows behind it. you *could* try shrinking the windows partition, but if it fails, you lost it
[15:55] <shreezbot> MonkeyDust, It actually tells me the system is going down for reboot NOW, but then does nothing...
[15:55] <llutz> gregf_: apt-get remove openssh-server
[15:55] <jhutchins> iptable: That is not correct.
[15:55] <alloxrinfo> Hi
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> gregf_: use your backups
[15:55] <demophobia> Is Ubuntu One free?
[15:55] <demophobia> e.g. backups?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: yes, and no
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: you get some storage free, you can pay for more
[15:56] <jhutchins> solofight: iptable is wrong, the space (for the mbr) is already available on a Windows system.
[15:56] <solofight> iptable: but what happens if i create the bios boot space in between ?
[15:56] <solofight> jhutchins: how to correct this ?
[15:56] <iptable> jhutchins: we already know windows works. it's linux that won't install as it wants "bios reserved boot area" at the beginning of the HDD, where currently windows sits.
[15:56] <jhutchins> solofight: This is true of GPT/UEFI as well, Windows has already allocated the space.
[15:57] <jhutchins> !efi
[15:57] <demophobia> Is it 5 GB of free backup storage? https://one.ubuntu.com/services/free/
[15:58] <solofight> jhutchins: yes you are right - i saw something like UEFi in the bios
[15:58] <solofight> will read that link and get back
[15:58] <alloxrinfo> Long time i did not scipted anything. I need a little help from someone kind enough. What would be the best way for me to get a script or a function that would replace some text (with variables given when executing the script) in a based text ? Do i need to be more clear ? Like my text is Hey hello $1 do you want some $2, and the script would be function hello  { echo "Hello $1 do you want some $2 ?" } The problem is that i hav
[15:58] <alloxrinfo> e 5 variables at least and the thing i need to Echo or write in a document is some Html Code
[15:58] <iptable> jhutchins: ooh, interesting. didn't realise there was a whole manual for that. we live and learn
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> alloxrinfo  better ask in #bash, i guess
[15:59] <alloxrinfo> or in #php ;)
[15:59] <alloxrinfo> ok thanks  MonkeyDust
[15:59] <Layke> ActionParsnip, This: https://gist.github.com/62b93c0bfd6f029d24ef
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Layke: ok, run:  sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install wine
[16:00] <Layke> ActionParsnip, From fixing previous repo/dependency issues today, most of this has been caused by some bad PPA package I think I might have installed.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Layke: thats why PPAs are not advised
[16:01] <Layke> http://pastie.org/private/wswb7cha2ctilcjgzq6gw
[16:02] <Layke> Yeah. I've learnt from this mistake definitely..
[16:02] <Layke> I can't even imagine what PPA it could be. It's not like I go adding every PPA under the sun
[16:03] <Layke> Just things like dropbox/spotify/google/steam for installing their products. But I guess.. that's where I went wrong at some point
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Layke: run:  sudo apt-get -f install    does it sort the packages?
[16:04] <Layke> No? http://pastie.org/8672308
[16:04] <fellayaboy> hey can ubuntu act as a pxe server and deploy windows images
[16:05] <Touhou11> Layke: Be careful installing proprietary software, it could be damaging your system
[16:05] <demophobia> adobe flash web plugin keeps crashing every time i try to mouseover a particular application of it
[16:05] <Layke> Touhou11, It's definitely damaging :) It's borked up massively
[16:05] <demophobia> i've already reported it once via the 'send crash report' thing it has; should i just let it go?
[16:05] <kevlar555> Hi from Argentina!
[16:06] <Touhou11> Richard Stallman summarizes the issues with proprietary software nicely here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html
[16:07] <Layke> ActionParsnip, Link above btw. http://pastie.org/8672308
[16:07] <whoever> iptable:  i specified full path
[16:10] <hexitus> 10
[16:10] <ddssc> tried to install this likewise-open thing and it hanged. now my apt is all fubar'd. "nable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" how do I fix apt?
[16:10] <whoever> iptable: brb, logout and back in
[16:11] <iptable> ddssc: lsof |grep dpkg
[16:12] <ddssc> dpkg refuses to cooperate says http://paste.ubuntu.com/6826925/
[16:13] <ddssc> iptable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6826934/
[16:13] <ddssc> i tried remove --purge likewise-open , won't work either
[16:13] <iptable> ddssc: first lsof |grep dpkg - find what uses dpkg. you *could* pkill -9 dpkg
[16:13] <Elico> mikubuntu: here?
[16:14] <iptable> ddssc: kill -9 dpkg should make it usable again. then use dpkg/apt to finish installation
[16:14] <iptable> ddssc: pkill -9 dpkg, not kill, sorry
[16:14] <ddssc> iptable according to lsof the likewise- process is using it
[16:14] <ddssc> ?
[16:15] <iptable> ddssc: no, dpkg is using it. pkill -9 dpkg
[16:15] <iptable> ddssc: as root/sudo
[16:15] <ddssc> done
[16:15] <ddssc> now only this is displayed
[16:15] <ddssc> likewise- 13309             root   10r      REG                8,6         6563    2628491 /var/lib/dpkg/info/likewise-open.postinst
[16:15] <iptable> ddssc: when done, apt-get -f install OR dpkg-reconfigure likewise-open
[16:15] <ddssc> iptable: which one?
[16:16] <iptable> ddssc: run first one. errors out, try second one.
[16:16] <ddssc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6826954/
[16:17] <ddssc> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[16:17] <ddssc> neither works.
[16:17] <ddssc> god damn it..
[16:17] <iptable> ddssc: looks like postinstall script hung as well, so you could kill -9 13309 first as well.
[16:18] <Elico> irgendwer4711
[16:18] <iptable> ddssc: you need to kill the likewise postinstall script, dpkg and apt, then try again to configure it. and it looks like you are missing lwsmd, which is from likewise-optn. I would 1. kill all apt, likewise postinstalls, dpkg. 2. aptitude purge likewise-open. 3. aptitude install likewise-open
[16:18] <vearva> hello, I got ubuntu 12.04.03 and it freeze totally sometimes
[16:19] <Elico> there is a basic issue with samba4 which is stated as the password complexity.
[16:19] <TeraJL> on phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_ups&num=2 , i see some low FPS vs 12.10... was it an update that eventually got to LTS, or is it not as significative as it looks, (i will use this machine for gamming)
[16:19] <vearva> keyboard, mouse not working+monitor freeze, can't do anything
[16:19] <iptable> vearva: tried CTRL+ALT+F1 when it's frozen?
[16:19] <Morgan_Freeman> http://i.imgur.com/KPM7Jkv.jpg
[16:20] <iptable> vearva: if so, and if that doesn't respond: install lm-sensors and xsensors. Monitor temperature. See if it's temperature related (overheating).
[16:21] <ddssc> iptable: how do I kill that script?
[16:21] <repozitor> iptable, for example when i login to my sourceforcge account, i can't ping any site.
[16:21] <vearva> iptable, hi, I tried your command once but impossible, keyboard not working when the freeze occur; temperature is fine also
[16:21] <repozitor> let me see how they do this
[16:21] <iptable> vearva: you could also, after rebooting, check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg* if you have one, in order to find out if there are any useful lines there.
[16:21] <repozitor> do you know how they do this?
[16:22] <repozitor> i have ssh access on my sourceforge account
[16:22] <iptable> vearva: "temperature is fine", but did you have it monitored when this happened?
[16:22] <vearva> iptable, my fan didn't make so much noise
[16:23] <vearva> iptable oh
[16:23] <iptable> vearva: hah. ok. now, did you know a CPU temperature may jump from 60 degrees to 110 in 3 seconds? Did you know your sensors might not even figure out to turn the fan up by the time it's overheating?
[16:23] <vearva> I found interesting thing in the log!
[16:23] <iptable> repozitor: you got me lost. what's the issue?
[16:24] <iptable> vearva: you can share the interesting thing via pastebin ;)
[16:24] <vearva> iptable, nop, but I found some error in the log from your directory; drivers seems to be the culprit
[16:24] <repozitor> iptable, i can't create a group with my limitation rules!
[16:24] <vearva> damn amd lol
[16:24] <repozitor> i need to block some specific CMD's like apt-get and ping and etc
[16:25] <ddssc> ip: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[16:25] <iptable> repozitor: I don't think I worked on your issue. first time I heard. Block globally, or what? Also, users without root access cannot apt-get install anyways and ping is not a hacker command, whatever they tell you
[16:26] <iptable> ddssc: I already told you. lsof |grep dpkg. Then kill -9 PID or pkill -9 NAME
[16:26] <iptable> vearva: hah, welcome to AMD world. what's the error anyways?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> repozitor  is this usefeul http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908933
[16:26] <repozitor> iptable, i want to block some CMD's like axel wget and.
[16:26] <ddssc> iptable: done all that. I breaks when I try to apt purge likewise
[16:26] <repozitor> because network limitations
[16:27] <iptable> vearva: also, AMD do *some* drivers to their cards for linux. you could check if it's there
[16:27] <Layke> Does this aptitude output mean anything to anyone? I am not sure how to proceed with install wine. http://pastie.org/8672385
[16:27] <vearva> iptable, thx for your help, I appreciate http://pastebin.com/x8y2QDzv
[16:27] <repozitor> MonkeyDust, no
[16:27] <iptable> repozitor: I still don't understand why you would block wget and ping. Do you want to block all internet?
[16:27] <repozitor> iptable, yes,
[16:28] <iptable> ddssc: no, when you try to purge, it says debconf is used. lsof |grep debconf
[16:28] <repozitor> please note that users login to ubuntu using ssh!
[16:28] <iptable> repozitor: there are better methods to blocking internet than blocking particular network tools
[16:28] <iptable> repozitor: so you want users to ssh into the box but not access internet outgoing?
[16:28] <repozitor> hhhmm, yes
[16:29] <repozitor> also blocking something like apt-get and ....
[16:29] <fego> 12
[16:29] <ddssc> iptable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6827021/
[16:29] <iptable> repozitor: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -j drop
[16:29] <iptable> repozitor: apt-get will get blocked, as internet outgoing access will be blocked
[16:30] <iptable> repozitor: if using ufw: ufw default deny outgoing
[16:30] <repozitor> is there possible in linux to define access level for groups?
[16:30] <repozitor> in my mind access level is some users in group X, can't use apt-get
[16:31] <iptable> repozitor: to block outgoing connections for a specific user: sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT
[16:31] <vearva> iptable, do you how to backport saucy kernel to 12.04.
[16:31] <llutz> repozitor: using apt-get would need root-rights/sudo, make sure your users cannot
[16:32] <iptable> vearva: I don't know the official method, but I would add the saucy repo, aptitude update; aptitude install {whatever kernel you want}, remove saucy repo
[16:32] <repozitor> iptable, ok, that's very good
[16:32] <repozitor> what about blocking installing .deb offilne?
[16:32] <iptable> repozitor: to install .deb, users need root access. you should NEVER give them root access, then they cannot install .deb
[16:33] <vearva> iptable, k thx man
[16:33] <ddssc> iptable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6827021/
[16:33] <iptable> vearva: no probs.
[16:34] <iptable> ddssc: I would now propose to you to reboot, then aptitude purge likewise-open, then aptitude install likewise-open
[16:34] <repozitor> ok, thanks,
[16:34] <repozitor> i will ask if i hit to an issue
[16:34] <iptable> repozitor: no prob. just run the iptables rule as root/sudo. don't give users sudo access, problem solved. they got no internet access when on the box.
[16:35] <ddssc> iptable: i think I managed to kill it, somehow  /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /usr/sbin/pam-auth-update --package refused to die with pkill. kill did kill it tho
[16:36] <iptable> ddssc: right, now try purge and then install
[16:37] <ddssc> iptable: nah thanks. I'll steer clear of that thing. I couldn't install anything else while I had this problem. thanks for your help man!
[16:37] <demophobia> So can Ubuntu 12.04 not handle Mac office files? Must they be converted to Windows Office? http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features/office-applications
[16:37] <iptable> ddssc: no problem.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: arent they the same thing?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> demophobia  what happens when you try with libre office?
[16:38] <iptable> demophobia: please tell me what "Mac office file" is. I always believed mac used open document format.
[16:38] <demophobia> default response at the moment is to view the .numbers as a zip archive and try to open with archive manager; i'm trying to 'open with other application' now ...
[16:38] <demophobia> Apple spreadsheet is called Numbers and file extension is .numbers
[16:38] <demophobia> Apple word is called Pages and file extension is .pages
[16:38] <iptable> demophobia: that is just an extension association issue, which would exist. Try to open it with libreoffice, should work.
[16:38] <demophobia> apple presentation is called Keynote and I think uses .keynote, but i've rarely used it
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: what does the 'file' command say it is>
[16:40] <demophobia> i opened libreoffice calc and tried to open this file but it's wanting me to select some filter
[16:40] <demophobia> "Filter Selection" window with options, but i don't know which i should select
[16:40] <demophobia> or what a filter even is
[16:40] <iptable> demophobia: see ActionParsnip response. run: file /the/file.numbers
[16:41] <iptable> demophobia: also, when it opens the file with archive manager, you can see files inside? i.e. it's an archive.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: have you considered using a more portable file type than something proprietary like Mac nonesense....
[16:42] <demophobia> okay, i just did 'file' and the output: information for applications.numbers: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: try extracting it with unp
[16:42] <iptable> demophobia: then the numbers file is archive. extract and see what is inside. I would propose to save files using a more known format then proprietary and problem solved.
[16:43] <demophobia> yeah, seems it *is* a zip file -- has an XML file and other things ... seems easier for me at this point to try converting to XLSX and try again
[16:44] <mikubuntu> how do i install screenshot utility in lubuntu -- software center doesn't have one
[16:44] <iptable> demophobia: yes. Apple apparently uses iWork format, which is based on ODF, but different :/ Save in MAC using a .doc or .xls - more universal
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> !info lxscreenshot | mikubuntu
[16:44] <demophobia> ok thank you
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-screenshot
[16:45] <iptable> !info gnome-screenshot | mikubuntu
[16:45] <demophobia> iptable, wait, Open Document Format is "less universal" than a windows format?!
[16:45] <iptable> damn. ActionParsnip you are too fast :D
[16:45] <mikubuntu> ok guys thank yous
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> thought lxscreenshot was a thing
[16:46] <iptable> demophobia: well, long story of cos. but kinda
[16:46] <demophobia> cos = course?
[16:47] <iptable> demophobia: yes. stop laughing at my speech impediment :P
[16:47] <mikubuntu> iptable -- didn't appear in software center but i got it in synaptic
[16:48] <gennaro> Salve a tutti
[16:50] <demophobia> ;) okay, XLS works, thank you. LibreOffice Calc isn't as pretty as Apple Numbers '09 though. :(
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: why would you want pretty?
[16:52] <demophobia> ActionParsnip, I mean information is easier to find when my tables are listed in a column on the left side of the screen, rather than in a row of tabs at the bottom. easier to find = more efficient
[16:52] <demophobia> *names of tables
[16:53] <iptable> demophobia: I could say it the other way around. It's a matter of what you are used to.
[16:54] <iptable> demophobia: I believe Ms Office also has row of tabs at the bottom ;)
[16:55] <demophobia> yeah, which is why i started to like apple numbers '09 better ... but anyway, /offtopic i guess
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: i see what you mean
[16:55] <Minnen> hello, can someone guide me through the installation of a .tar.gz using the terminal
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: you can have each in a window, then use the grid plugin (like in Mac OS) to show all windows running
[16:56] <ddssc> Minnen: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-open-a-tar-gz-file-in-linux-unix/
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: what is in the archive, stating the file extension means nothing
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: how do you install a .zip in Window? It's meaningless
[16:57] <Minnen> e1000e-2.5.4.tar.gz
[16:57] <Minnen> thats the file
[16:57] <Minnen> lemme explain what i did so far and the error i had
[16:57] <Minnen> 1 - Run tar -xzf e1000e-2.5.4.tar.gz
[16:57] <user000> I want to make simple reminder todo breaks :) I use cron for timing and zenity for popup box. I also need some sound, like "beep" or something. Is there any installed program that can do this ? I not really want use vlc...
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: the e1000e is in the default install
[16:58] <Minnen> Browse the path cd e1000e-2.5.4
[16:58] <ddssc> altho nobody has really mastered the art of tar completely. it is prophesied that a nerd will come along who will understand how to use tar without having to google it every time.
[16:58] <Minnen> then  ./configure and this output "command not found"
[16:58] <iptable> ddssc: I have. man tar
[16:58] <Minnen> then make and told me "no makefile found"
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> user000: aplay will play an audio track
[16:59] <Minnen> thats it
[16:59] <user000> thanks Action ;)
[16:59] <Minnen> i think the problem originated in the cd part
[16:59] <iptable> Minnen: what IS in the tarball? also did you CD to the directory that got unzipped before executing those commands? also, e1000e driver is included in ubuntu I thought
[17:00] <domnic> hello
[17:00] <iptable> Minnen: you are not trying to install, but *compile" a package. why do you want to do that anyways?
[17:00] <Minnen> iptable > no i didnt not cd to the directory, in which step should i have done that
[17:01] <Minnen> iptable > to be able to install the pkg with make and make install after ./configure
[17:01] <iptable> Minnen: why are you trying to install that file?
[17:01] <iptable> Minnen: to achieve what that is?
[17:01] <Minnen> its my Ethernet driver
[17:02] <iptable> Minnen: e1000e driver is included in ubuntu. no need to install it.
[17:02] <demophobia> ActionParsnip, you mean like Spaces?
[17:03] <mikubuntu> i was having a huge problem with a black screen and unable to install -- imghost helped me with that, but had to leave and i still have this prob with resolution -- http://imagebin.org/289328 -- the monitor settings are at 1024 x 768 but as you can see it isn't rendering that way
[17:04] <iptable> Minnen: compiling packages is quite advanced, and you need to first understand basic tools, like ls, cd, ./configure, make, etc. Otherwise, use packages from repositories instead.
[17:05] <VLanX> I am stuck with an annoing graphic bug, like I cannot press most of the icons in the UNITY sidebar. Is there anything I can do other than unity --replace?
[17:07] <srsaam> buenaaaas
[17:07] <manny0080> hi
[17:07] <srsaam> hi
[17:07] <srsaam> any spanish ?
[17:08] <manny0080> no
[17:10] <iuga1> Hi all !
[17:10] <iptable> 'ello
[17:11] <_iuga_> Hi !
[17:11] <iptable> 'ello again
[17:13] <demophobia> is there a keyboard shortcut to increase volume? are all keyboard shortcuts listed in the keyboard shortcuts window under preferences?
[17:13] <Ziber> I have function keys for that...
[17:14] <iptable> demophobia: yes. on my keyboard, it's FN+F7, on my other, it's VolUp key.
[17:14] <demophobia> mine says only "Audio lower volume" and "Audio raise volume" for the keyboard shortcut ... I don't know what that implies.
[17:15] <JustSomeGuy> hi uh is it normal that when you login with lightdm the user wont appear in users?
[17:15] <demophobia> how do i reset a keyboard shortcut to its default setting?
[17:15] <iptable> demophobia: as buttons? dedicated buttons. see on your keyboard. No idea re reset, sorry
[17:15] <iptable> JustSomeGuy: won't appear in users where?
[17:16] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, in the cli
[17:16] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, when i run users
[17:16] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, i just get the user i used to login via ssh
[17:16] <demophobia> I've set it to my function keys analogous to Mac. Thank you.
[17:17] <mikubuntu> knock knock. who's there. low. low who. low resolution :: http://imagebin.org/289328
[17:18] <iptable> JustSomeGuy: no, it shows me the user logged in. shows my user twice even.
[17:19] <iptable> mikubuntu: why do you say it's low?
[17:19] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, do you have a terminal open? because if you have the user will show that session
[17:19] <JustSomeGuy> argh
[17:19] <iptable> JustSomeGuy: yes, hence it shows twice. Once for the terminal
[17:19] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, very strange if i use gdm the user is listed :/
[17:20] <WACOMalt> can someone help me? I cant cd into /var/log/apache2/ even with sudo it says permission denied
[17:20] <iptable> WACOMalt: does /var/log/apache2 exist? if so, ls -l /var/log please
[17:20] <iptable> WACOMalt: you cannot sudo cd there. you would have to sudo -i (to go to root), and then cd in there.
[17:21] <iptable> WACOMalt: also, the directory itself needs execute bit set. otherwise you cannot enter it
[17:21] <WACOMalt> O_o
[17:21] <iptable> JustSomeGuy: works here
[17:21] <WACOMalt> why would a folder need execute?
[17:21] <WACOMalt> to even view it
[17:21] <WACOMalt> I dont get this...
[17:21] <llutz> WACOMalt: ls -ld /var/log/apache2
[17:21] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, is there any way to debug something like that with lightdm?
[17:22] <iptable> WACOMalt: you cannot "view" a folder. you need to ENTER a directory to read it's contents. it's called "executing a directory". Without that bit, you cannot enter the dir.
[17:22] <WACOMalt> llutz, drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 2014-01-26 06:46 /var/log/apache2
[17:22] <WACOMalt> ah
[17:22] <WACOMalt> I never knew that
[17:22] <iptable> WACOMalt: so root user and adm group can both enter the dir. no one else can. you can do it as root
[17:22] <llutz> WACOMalt: so sudo less /var/log/apache2/file.you.want.to.see.log
[17:22] <WACOMalt> so why does sudo cd not work?
[17:23] <iptable> WACOMalt: you cannot do it as non-root user who is not part of adm group either. sudo cd would try to enter the dir as root and stay inside it as non-root
[17:23] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! I am unble to run Clonezilla from inside a  virtual machine [VBox]; I tried all 5 version [both Debian and Ubuntu kinds] all I cannot get past the first screen that merely starts Clonezilla; I md5sum-checked the iso files and they seem ok; any similar experiences?
[17:23] <iptable> WACOMalt: see the issue?
[17:23] <llutz> WACOMalt: sudo cd   will return right back to your users $PWD, so you don't see the "cd"
[17:23] <WACOMalt> I do
[17:23] <WACOMalt> [Sun Jan 26 06:46:06 2014] [error] (2)No such file or directory: could not open transfer log file /$
[17:23] <WACOMalt> Unable to open logs
[17:23] <WACOMalt> opps sorry for two line :X
[17:24] <iptable> WACOMalt: sudo -i (or sudo su -) and go to that dir as root
[17:24] <jhutchins> cyclist_2: What kind of VM?
[17:24] <iptable> WACOMalt: or add your user to adm group, logout and login again
[17:24] <WACOMalt> I just did. I'm in the folder already
[17:24] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, i will just submit a bugreport and use gdm for now :/ thx for your help
[17:24] <iptable> WACOMalt: now ls
[17:24] <WACOMalt> now I just dont understand the error, or how it came about
[17:24] <WACOMalt> yeah I see a ton of access error logs and regular error logs
[17:25] <iptable> WACOMalt: oh, so in the error log you got an error saying cannot open transfer log file?
[17:25] <WACOMalt> could not open transfer log file /$ unable to open Logs
[17:25] <WACOMalt> yes
[17:25] <cyclist_2> jhutchins: it's Oracle VM VirtualBox version 4.1 [I think]; but it runs other iso files ok; it is just Clonezilla that gives this problem
[17:25] <mikubuntu> iptable: sorry, had to run to the other room ... res is set at 1024 x 768 but not rendering such
[17:26] <solofight> i have a dell machine which came with win8 UEFI... kindly help me in installing ubuntu 12 in it... when i put the ubuntu live disc in it,,, the laptop never boots from the cd..so i disabled the UEFI boot and selected legacy boot and selected the cd drive... after which the disc loads and the ubuntu desktop shows up... when i select install ubuntu - - it never identified win8 ! !
[17:26] <iptable> WACOMalt: looks like your apache is misconfigured. look at config
[17:26] <mikubuntu> but hold on the damn dog is barking .. brb
[17:27] <iptable> mikubuntu: what do you mean "not rendering such". taskbar looks such
[17:27] <iptable> solofight: yeah. win8 wants uefi to boot btw. problem 1.
[17:28] <WACOMalt> iptable, apache2/apache2.conf says: ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
[17:28] <WACOMalt> I'm suspecting EHCP is fudging something up here. God how I hate that software
[17:28] <solofight> iptable: so how should i handle it ?
[17:28] <jhutchins> cyclist_2: I think the issue is probably that clonezilla attempts to deal directly with storage hardware, and you don't have any in a VM.
[17:29] <iptable> WACOMalt: first, you got /etc/apache2/ - with a lot more stuff in there than just apache2.conf. Second, it not only errorlog you need, there are others defined. especially in sites-enabled
[17:29] <iptable> solofight: install ubuntu in UEFI mode. Install latest ubuntu desktop, try that.
[17:30] <iptable> solofight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:30] <MuttleyBlack> Hi guys i want to do a test. you can read me?
[17:30] <SonikkuAmerica> MuttleyBlack: If you can read this, you're not a book.
[17:30] <iptable> MuttleyBlack: no, we cannot read you.
[17:31] <MuttleyBlack> hehe
[17:31] <cyclist_2> jhutchins: but I have seen video tutorials on YouTube [I can get the links here if you wish to take a look for yourself; do let me know], where the user does exactly that; and he is also using Ubuntu
[17:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Just a friendly reminder to all - today is the absolute last day that Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring) is supported. Tomorrow, we will tell you to upgrade to 13.10 (Saucy).
[17:32] <k-joseph> hi every one, i was reading some where that sudo passwd -l username is used to temporarily lock or unlock a user account using sudo passwd -u username, i run the first command and now when i run sudo su, my previous pasword fails and i fear to reboot thinking i may fail to login, any advise!!!
[17:33] <iptable> cyclist_2: does clonezilla have support to run under virtualbox?
[17:33] <daftykins> k-joseph: so you locked your only user account besides root on the system?
[17:34] <iptable> cyclist_2: clonezilla is in ubuntu repositories. why not start ubuntu desktop ISO and sudo aptitude install clonezilla
[17:34] <llutz> k-joseph: so you issued that command as the only sudo-user on the system without having a root shell opened? what did you expect to happen?
[17:35] <k-joseph> daftykins: but root also also fails to login with the previous password, llutz, what then is the way out?
[17:35] <iptable> k-joseph: boot into livecd, then all as root: mount your HDD root partition to /mnt/somewhere, then chroot /mnt/somewhere, then passwd youruser
[17:35] <llutz> k-joseph: boot into recovery mode and try to fix your useraccount or boot from live-media and chroot
[17:35] <daftykins> k-joseph: root doesn't have a password, unless you've overriden one...
[17:36] <WACOMalt> man, I should probably upgrade from 10.04...
[17:36] <Beldar> iptable, I use clonezilla with a bootable ISO on a usb it works when booted in vbox and any OS and partition type that it's website declares clone able
[17:36] <SonikkuAmerica> WACOMalt: Yeah, you should.
[17:36] <daftykins> WACOMalt: yes, it's unsupported on the desktop
[17:36] <WACOMalt> < server :)
[17:36] <Michael5> Is there anything like Windows Movie Maker? I have a video, and I want to add credits-like things to it at the start, like show text saying "MADE BY" ...etc, I tried Pitvi but there's no option like that to it. Anything else, please?
[17:36] <daftykins> meh, i'm typing from a 10.04 server right now ;)
[17:36] <iptable> Beldar: so it's user-error ;)
[17:37] <iptable> WACOMalt: upgrade to 12.04 or 14.04 soon. problem solved.
[17:37] <Beldar> iptable, Ah yes, has been for me.
[17:37] <k-joseph> iptable: llutz: daftykins: thanks for your suggestions, but am not sure how to do these suggested procedures, any help in form of links would help
[17:37] <iptable> Michael5: openshot
[17:38] <daftykins> !chroot | k-joseph
[17:38] <WACOMalt> iptable, nah, the problem is EHCP
[17:38] <WACOMalt> it'd still be broken
[17:38] <cyclist_2> iptable: I have never read all documentation,  but since it is just an iso it should, at least load and work until it encounters a problem; but all it does is an error message from VBox about some 'critical error'; I am not even trying to really run it [since I have not the interest at the moment], but I would like to see it working, say, until it is time to choose the repository and the source devices; but never went beyond the first scree
[17:39] <iptable> k-joseph: boot from live cd, then sudo mkdir /mnt/dir; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/dir; sudo chroot /mnt/dir - then passwd youruser
[17:39] <cyclist_2> iptable: I had not read you second comment; I will check the repository now!
[17:39] <iptable> k-joseph: this assumes /dev/sda1 is your root partition
[17:39] <iptable> cyclist_2: what IS your virtualbox version?
[17:41] <cyclist_2> iptable: 4.1.30
[17:42] <Beldar> cyclist_2, Does the vbox machine running work as of now, if so the .vdi the OS itself is insert-able in any vbox, a clone would only be needed when wanting ti increase the machines size really.
[17:42] <iptable> that is quite acceptable. and you booting it as an installer ISO mounted on the CD drive, right? like if you were going to install a distro?
[17:42] <cyclist_2> iptable: I do not have Clonezilla in my repository [Synaptic]; at least, not with that name...
[17:43] <iptable> cyclist_2: what is your ubuntu version? aptitude show clonezilla
[17:43] <iptable> Package: clonezilla
[17:43] <iptable> State: not installed
[17:43] <Beldar> !find clonezilla
[17:43] <Beldar> !info clonezilla
[17:44] <iptable> cyclist_2: though I am on 14.04.
[17:44] <iptable> cyclist_2: why DO you want clonezilla anyways? what's the purpose of running it in a VM?
[17:45] <cyclist_2> Beldar: yes, the VBov machines all work correctly; I even ran a Xubuntu 12.04 as 'live CD' and although a bit slow at start, then go to work really well; I even played a quick game to see it working;; but the Clonezillas iso [all 5 of them] make the virtual machine [and I have 4 installed and performing well] crash
[17:45] <kali_denali> Hi
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !info virtualbox saucy
[17:46] <cyclist_2> iptable: Ubuntu 10.04
[17:46] <iptable> cyclist_2: you could try to update your virtualbox. but WHY do you want clonezilla in a VM?
[17:46] <iptable> cyclist_2: ubuntu 10.04 is not longer supported
[17:46] <Beldar> cyclist_2, Do you understand that the .vdi the OS installed is an image that can be put in any vbox setup.
[17:46] <iptable> cyclist_2: maybe with new ubuntu and newer kernel, virtualbox will work correctly with clonezilla. But why do you need clonezilla, please tell!
[17:46] <cyclist_2> iptable: I really want it to clone my PC's internal hard drive, but I want to see it working like on those tutorials
[17:47] <rostam> Hi I have a quesion on debminor. I have used this tool to locally mirror ubuntu 12.04.  However,  one particular package, python-pip, is not in the local mirror and I am not sure why? thx
[17:47] <iptable> cyclist_2: your real PC's, or virtual PC's?
[17:47] <cyclist_2> iptable: my real PC
[17:48] <iptable> cyclist_2: you want to use a clonezilla in a VM to clone your real full HDD?
[17:48] <iptable> cyclist_2: I don't see how you can do it. clonezilla has no access to your real HDD from a VM. even giving it access manually would be scary...
[17:49] <Beldar> cyclist_2, I had clonezilla work once with vbox a couple of years ago, not since have I been able to get it to work, so I just save the .vdi You might ask in #vbox as well.
[17:49] <cyclist_2> iptable: the Clonezilla iso **should** work like it was my real PC [although I would have stopped and aborted Clonezilla before any cloning took place -- I just do no understand why I crashes everytime]
[17:49] <iptable> cyclist_2: to clone your real PC, boot from clonezilla on your real PC, not from VM... you are constantly making changes to that drive and trying to clone it - bad idea.
[17:50] <iptable> cyclist_2: you cannot clone real HDD with clonezilla in VM. VM has no access to real hardware. also, you are running old ubuntu (10.04)
[17:50] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible?
[17:50] <cyclist_2> iptable: you misundertood me: I do not want to clone my real hard drive from a VM
 cyclist_2: your real PC's, or virtual PC's?
 iptable: my real PC
[17:51] <iptable> cyclist_2: to "clone" a VM, just copy the .vdi file, which is a drive image already. use the right tool for the right job.
[17:52] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible?
[17:52] <cyclist_2> I just want to see it working on a VM because I do not want to reboot my PC [and also because I hava some issues at the moment with my CD ROM drive and I cannot burn the iso image to a real CD -- so running Clonezilla from a VM becomes the next best thing and it should work like any other iso]
[17:52] <razor_> testing
[17:52] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:52] <llutz> !patience | govbnst
[17:52] <razor_> hi everyone
[17:52] <razor_> i am new
[17:53] <wollie88> @govbnst that is posible
[17:53] <razor_> any1 dere??
[17:53] <k-joseph> daftykins: by the way, i have another account and so there are two accounts running now, though i locked guest account, i still have two
[17:53] <wollie88> its gona be a bitch to configure tho
[17:53] <iptable> cyclist_2: what are you talking about? if you are cloning a VM, just use virtualbox clone capabilities. for your real PC clone, you need to boot normal. I give up
[17:53] <iptable> cyclist_2: if you just want to "see" clonezilla in a VM, upgrade your ubuntu to supported please
[17:54] <solofight> if i encrypt my home folder - later when i connect my hard disk as a external to another machine - can i decrypt the home folder with my password ??? or do i need a running ubuntu os to do it ?
[17:54] <daftykins> k-joseph: right but you can't "sudo -s" from the first created account?
[17:54] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:55] <iptable> solofight: you will need a running linux to do it. or at least some kind of softwaer that understands the encryption you will be using.
[17:55] <daftykins> k-joseph: also, never run "sudo su" it's not correct practice
[17:55] <razor_> how 2 exit the chalnel
[17:55] <phunyguy> razor_: /part
[17:55] <razor_> somebdy please ttell me
[17:55] <solofight> iptable: so which software understands ecryptfs ?
[17:55] <razor_> ty phunyguy
[17:55] <iptable> solofight: well, ecryptfs.
[17:55] <k-joseph> daftykins: oh, i never knew that before, what is the danger of that
[17:56] <cyclist_2> iptable: so that I make double clear: my aim is not to clone any of my virtual machines; I use them to run the Clonezilla iso as a live CD for testing purpposes **only**; if at leat Clonezilla worked, I would done the next step and attempted to clone my real hard drive with a live CD or a live USB; but until I see Clonezilla working in my Vmachines likee in those videos, I am uncertain to try to do the "real" thing: It would take a long tim
[17:56] <Beldar> cyclist_2, I believe this live disc has clonezilla on it. http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/
[17:56] <iptable> solofight: http://superuser.com/questions/667902/mount-ecryptfs-volume-on-windows
[17:56] <addiks> hi, i have a question about this: [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/kernel]. What is meant with "latest mainline kernel"? The latest branch (v3.13) or daily?
[17:56] <daftykins> k-joseph: just have a read of sudo's man page regarding -s sometime
[17:57] <iptable> cyclist_2: install a newer version of ubuntu, one that is supported. that's that.
[17:57] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:57] <Beldar> cyclist_2, One of the rescue discs does, and it runs in ram.
[17:57] <iptable> cyclist_2: or use dd to clone.
[17:57] <k-joseph> daftykins: thanks, i will do that
[17:57] <solofight> ok thank you iptable
[17:57] <cyclist_2> Beldar: I already downloaded all 5 variants from Clonezilla own website; if those do not work, I doubt any other would...
[17:58] <Beldar> cyclist_2, You have a black and white thinking process, you are coming to conclusions without and real empirical data, just saying. ;)
[17:59] <Beldar> any*
[17:59] <rostam> iptable, cyclist_2  I am also interested to clone an installed image for production. Is Clonezilla good enough to do this? please advise, thansks
[17:59] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:59] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:59] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:59] <FloodBot1> govbnst: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <iptable> rostam: clonezilla does a reasonable job. dd does a proper low-level job
[18:00] <Beldar> cyclist_2, You are convinced clonezilla should run, has not obviously, you might consider it will not for example.
[18:00] <cyclist_2> Beldar: all right! I will give it a try; but I am not holding my breath; this will take a while, but I will be back
[18:00] <Beldar> ;)
[18:00]  * iptable goes get a life
[18:00] <worm`> Hi, I want to run a graphical application from the command line, here is the script I wrote: https://paste8.com/4XQiHrXZ - it's Ubuntu Server 12.04 + Unity. What I get is an error from xhost "unable to open display :0" and from the graphical application I want to use (Sikuli) "Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.". I've tried using DISPLAY:=1 as I use this number when connecting with a VNC client but it doesn't wo
[18:00] <worm`> rk either...
[18:01]  * Beldar thinks the scientific method is needed
[18:02] <whoever> iptable: ok, figured out why shotcyt keys wort working. in 13.04 before releaseing they made a quick fix that requred a logou/login every time you added a custom keyboard shortcut for it to take effect
[18:02] <cyclist_2> rostam: based on what I saw in those video tutorials, the program is really good; my problem is that it's not working on my VBox [when it should], so I cannot say more than "watch the video tutorials and decide for yourself"; hope it helps; by the way: do you like the links to those video tutorials? just ask me
[18:03] <rostam> cyclist_2,  iptable,  my understanding is the installed image has mac address specific to that system. So how dd or clonezilla could avoid this issue?
[18:04] <linziyi> hi!
[18:05] <linziyi> just want to ask a question
[18:05] <linziyi> how to install ubuntu without CD or USB?
[18:05] <wollie88> you dont
[18:05] <Beldar> linziyi, If you have grub you can boot an iso from the grub menu.
[18:06] <linziyi> I don't have grub2
[18:06] <glitsj16> worm`: is X running?
[18:06] <linziyi> I suppose grub does not support that feature?
[18:06] <Beldar> linziyi, grub legacy? What OS's are there now?
[18:07] <linziyi> gentoo
[18:07] <linziyi> and that's it
[18:07] <Beldar> linziyi, I have only seen wiki's for a grub2 iso boot, also be sure to use nicks here you can tab complete them.
[18:07] <cyclist_2> rostam: from what I have seen, Clonezilla works with all major OSs, including Macs
[18:08] <addiks__> linziyi: is it an EFI computer? If so, you could try installing rEFInd, writing the iso in its own partition (as data, not as file) and boot that partition using rEFInd.
[18:08] <linziyi> Beldar: I used to do it with simply
[18:08] <linziyi> kernel /vmlinuz
[18:08] <linziyi> initrd /initrd.xz
[18:09] <linziyi> that seemed to work until the newer versions of ubuntu
[18:09] <llutz> linziyi: use debootstrap
[18:09] <worm`> glitsj16, I think so: https://paste8.com/HvhlT6vO
[18:10] <Beldar> linziyi, Do you have any tools like a live disc of something to fix any problems that might arise?
[18:10] <linziyi> i have puppy linux
[18:11] <linziyi> thanks llutz I am looking into it!
[18:11] <WACOMalt> found my issue. ehcp had a config for a domain, the log folder for it was missing
[18:11] <Beldar> linziyi, Cool, puppy could fix any grub issue that happen.
[18:11] <worm`> glitsj16, maybe you prefer this check: https://paste8.com/0OhcBmfB
[18:12] <linziyi> I am installing ubuntu just for the android adb...
[18:12] <glitsj16> worm`: these days you use lightdm (or gdm, kdm) to start X, so i'd try to kill what's there but unreachable with "sudo killall X" and then "sudo service lightdm start"
[18:12] <Beldar> linziyi, Could you use a virtual maybe?
[18:13] <linziyi> too much of a mess trying to do that in gentoo I afraid
[18:13] <linziyi> The emulator things get everying scramble up (espcially the dependencies) in gentoo Beldar
[18:14] <Beldar> linziyi, Heh, understandable, I assume you built the gentoo, so you would know.
[18:15] <linziyi> so how do people install ubuntu nowadays, use unetbootin in windows?
[18:15] <Beldar> linziyi, Some do, there are handfulls of usb loaders that are windows and or linux compatible.
[18:16] <Beldar> and apple
[18:18] <worm`> glitsj16, what do I kill precisely? because it says "X: no such process"
[18:18] <craigbass1976> In XP, I can set some Java options in Control Panel.  Where is something that looks anything like that in Ubuntu?  I'm using Sun java, not open java
[18:19] <daftykins> craigbass1976: there's probably some documentation on Oracle's site about that
[18:19] <glitsj16> worm`: nothing, X wasn't running if you get that, proceed with "sudo service lightdm start" and then test your script
[18:20] <worm`> glitsj16, alright but "start: Job is already running: lightdm"
[18:20] <esgone> Hi
[18:20] <hesiodo> hi
[18:20] <glitsj16> worm´: try restart
[18:20] <hesiodo> and Hi
[18:23] <craigbass1976> daftykins, nope -- google was easier.  I didn't know what it was called though.
[18:24] <daftykins> craigbass1976: what was the answer in the end? web-based config tools alone, or?
[18:24] <worm`> glitsj16, I did but I get "No protocol specified
[18:24] <worm`> " followed by "xhost: unable to open display :0" when executing my script (i.e. https://paste8.com/4XQiHrXZ)
[18:26] <worm`> does it matter I run everything from a root tty? because that's what I do
[18:27] <glitsj16> worm`: ahh, not a good idea to try to start X as root no
[18:28] <glitsj16> worm`: now your regular users ~/.Xauthority file is probably owned by root, check that
[18:29] <amed> i can't mount automatically a ext4 partition, I use 13.10
[18:29] <evilbug> if i shove in an extra gb of ram (for a total of 2gb) and an ssd in my eeepc1000 how much more responsive do you think it'll be?
[18:29] <WeirdEnthusiast> I'm trying to set up a rails server.
[18:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> How's ubuntu for my virtual machine?
[18:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> Presently, I use an Arch based distro.
[18:30] <evilbug> ubuntu's dope.
[18:30] <glitsj16> worm`: what does "ls -la ~/.Xauthority" give you?
[18:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> I love it. Not too sure bout using arch as a web server..
[18:30] <amed> anybody?
[18:30] <gregf_> hello, is there someway to fix this issue manually please: openssh-server : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.16) but 2.15-0ubuntu20.2 is to be installed
[18:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, Yes. I've heard a lot bout it. But it's just hearsay..
[18:31] <cyclist_2> Beldar: I am back; here it is: the Ubuntu Rescue Remix iso ***does*** load [unlike Clonezilla] and ***does*** work; alas, it is command line only and I would have to learn to use those tools first; another thing is that Clonezilla is not included; here is their list: GNU ddrescue, Photorec, The Sleuth Kit and Gnu-fdisk.  Packages new to  the Rescue Remix include aoetools, array-info, ext3-grep, gptsync,  kpartx, and scrounge-ntfs. But your 
[18:31] <gregf_> i can fix the deps manually rather than depending on the repo's :/
[18:31] <worm`> glitsj16, yes I got /root/.Xauthority I need to append an entry for my regular user right?
[18:31] <WeirdEnthusiast> So I'm here to ask y'all. Cuz you guys use it day in and day out!
[18:31] <WeirdEnthusiast> :3
[18:32] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, So ubuntu or some light weight derivative of it? o.o
[18:32] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: i actually don't use it in and out but i'm looking to set up a dedicated dev computer with ubuntu as the main os. since it's one of the most popular distros you're pretty safe in terms of software and hardware compatibility.
[18:32] <glitsj16> worm`: check if your regular user still owns his .Xauthority file and remove the one for root
[18:32] <conroe> sooo, anyone done a clean install of xorg/gnome/lightdm on -server *without* the spyware-ridden parts of unity and *-accounts?
[18:32] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: yeah. i prefer xubuntu myself since it's still a full featured de but much lighter than unity (which i f-ing hate).
[18:33] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, Interesting. I won't get arch only cuz it's way too bleeding edge for my needs. As a server which is..
[18:33] <worm`> glitsj16, there is no .Xauthority for my regular user I'm afraid
[18:33] <Beldar> cyclist_2, Ah, I forget all of the repair discs out there but there is one that has clonezilla on board this one as I remember runs in ram, you can remove the boot media
[18:33] <WeirdEnthusiast> Haha. Word.
[18:33] <WeirdEnthusiast> I did not like it too.
[18:33] <WeirdEnthusiast> ;D
[18:33] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: you can't go wrong with ubuntu. some people prefer fedora as well since it's spawned from red hat.
[18:34] <glitsj16> worm`: well, copy the one from root to the user /home and make him own it, use the chown command
[18:34] <cpd> ???
[18:34] <cpd> ???
[18:35] <glitsj16> worm`: sudo chown $USER:$USER $HOME/.Xauthority
[18:36] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: my only gripe with linux (or any other oss for that matter) is that the look isn't as polished as mac os :D
[18:36] <rcrobot> Hey guys. I'm having a really frustrating time getting Dota 2 to work. Every time I try to load the second tutorial level, the game freezes up on the loading screen and I can't click anything.
[18:36] <cyclist_2> Beldar: that's my intention now: to find another rescue program like Clonezilla, be it on its own or included with others; I will still poke around for a more technical answer as to why Clonezilla has been the only iso file I could not make work with VBox; thank you, again; bye!
[18:37] <bugtraq_> e ae tem mulher ai?:3  shauhsuhs
[18:37] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, Haha
[18:37] <WeirdEnthusiast> Try the Cairo dock.
[18:37] <WeirdEnthusiast> I love it.
[18:37] <worm`> glitsj16, done, but running $sudo service lightdm start; returns "Sorry, user <myuser> is not allowed to execute '/usr/sbin/service lightdm start' as root on <myhost>."
[18:38] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: i know what you're talking about but there's still not that polish i'm talking about.
[18:38] <glitsj16> worm`: is the regular user in the sudoers?
[18:38] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: i was thinking in the meantime before i actually get a new machine i'll design a whole gui.
[18:38] <WeirdEnthusiast> No sir. On my arch I have custom themes of Gnome from deviant art.
[18:39] <WeirdEnthusiast> I LOVE IT OMG <3
[18:39] <WeirdEnthusiast> The cairo dock makes it look like a mac. :3
[18:39] <WeirdEnthusiast> Oh
[18:39] <WeirdEnthusiast> Too much work, in my opinion.
[18:39] <WeirdEnthusiast> :l
[18:39] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: well i also do graphic design so it's good practice, keep my chops up :)
[18:40] <WeirdEnthusiast> Not to mention my designing skills be like shitty :P
[18:40] <wollie88> why would you make your beautifus linux machine look like a mac ?
[18:40] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, Heh. I'm sure you'll make a smexy looking desktop D:
[18:40] <WeirdEnthusiast> wollie88, Why do you put posters in your room?
[18:40] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[18:41] <wollie88> i dont
[18:41] <WeirdEnthusiast> You're too perfect to understand then.
[18:41] <WeirdEnthusiast> :l
[18:41] <worm`> glitsj16, no, I believe I have to create a file in /etc/sudoers.d but I don't know the syntax yet
[18:41] <wollie88> it was a joke
[18:41] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: i'll try. i need to test out some concepts since linux renders the gui a bit different as well.
[18:41] <Wiz_KeeD> If I have a separate hard-drive that's ntfs format, and I download torrents or set dropbox on it in Ubuntu, when I first boot it doesn't find the location, almost like it's mounted by a different name
[18:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Does anyone know about that and workarounds?
[18:41] <evilbug> wollie88: hater!
[18:41] <wollie88> i dont hate apple
[18:41] <Wiz_KeeD> My main hdd is ssd and I don't want to store big stuff on my ssd
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> wollie88 has moral boners for macs?
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> :l
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> There there..
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> :P
[18:42] <wollie88> i just think their macs are overpriced thats all
[18:42] <glitsj16> worm`: are you still running in root terminal? if so, try from a non-root one.. i've got to go prepare dinner so i'll be afk .. ask the channel for help on that, hope you get things up
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> wollie88, Well.
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> I like apple.
[18:43] <wollie88> i use an iphone
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Red. Fresh. And tasty.
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> D:
[18:43] <wollie88> so im not a complete apple hater
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Heh. I got a 4s too..
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Speaking of which.
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Did you update to iOS 7?
[18:43] <wollie88> yes
[18:43] <FiremanEd> !ot
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Wow. me too..
[18:43] <evilbug> wollie88: maybe not overpriced, personally i feel the premium one pays is overall better than getting a windows machine for some tasks.
[18:43] <wollie88> and its working perfect
[18:44] <WeirdEnthusiast> FiremanEd, Sure. ^_^
[18:44] <worm`> glitsj16, alright, thank you
[18:44] <wollie88> everything is better than windows
[18:44] <glitsj16> worm`: you'll need to use visudo--> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[18:44] <WeirdEnthusiast> Haha agreed.
[18:45] <WeirdEnthusiast> Trying to play with open source on Windows, is like having yourself raped by an 8 year old.
[18:45] <wollie88> osx is nice but it just doesnt give me the freedom i want
[18:45] <WeirdEnthusiast> lol
[18:45] <wollie88> :D
[18:45] <evilbug> wollie88: for a better example i'd rather get a mac for working with audio since so many audio cards and devices are instantly recognized and coreaudio is a much better engine than asio or whatever else windows does.
[18:45] <WeirdEnthusiast> Brb.
[18:45] <glitsj16> worm`: no trouble, the channel is here if you get into any roadblocks, goodluck
[18:45] <wollie88> for audio i say mac all the way
[18:46] <craigbass1976> daftykins, it was called java control panel.  Something that comes with java and it appears to work better on 6 than 7...  The 7 config tool doesn't seem to know what to do...
[18:46] <Beldar> wollie88, Could you use #ubuntu-offtopic for non support conversations?
[18:46] <evilbug> wollie88: but i'm looking to set up an ubuntu tower for development and a bit of windows on the side for gaming and ie testing.
[18:47] <jam_rock> recently installed ubuntu 13.10 which went ok except the wireless. its says connected but i cant connect to the wi-fi. i welcome all suggestions
[18:49] <Beldar> jam_rock, Details rule here, run lspci in the terminal, identify the wifi hardware and include this at the least in your inquiries and any other pertinent infos
[18:50] <bugtraq_> :3
[18:50] <conroe> will btrfs work as root fs?
[18:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone has this issue?
[18:51] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: which issue is that? :)
[18:51] <Wiz_KeeD> If I have a separate hard-drive that's ntfs format, and I download torrents or set dropbox on it in Ubuntu, when I first boot it doesn't find the location, almost like it's mounted by a different name
[18:51] <Doug__> uhuuu vem ni mim delicia :3
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> My main hdd is ssd and I don't want to store big stuff on my ssd
[18:52] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: how are you mounting this NTFS drive?
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Does anyone know about that and workarounds?
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> daftykins, it's automatically detected by the OS
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> IT's a separate hard-drive in a hdd-caddy (I am so proud of that :X)
[18:52] <Doug__> print "hello world :3"
[18:52] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: ok well i'd first like to say it's nasty writing to an NTFS drive, second, permanently mounting it within the /etc/fstab file based on the disk's UUID would probably be saner
[18:53] <Wiz_KeeD> ok now we're geting somehwere, I had no idea
[18:53] <Beldar> Doug__, This is support, do you need that?
[18:53] <Wiz_KeeD> So what is the best way to proceed, format to ext4 and use win ext4 drivers to access the partition?
[18:53] <Wiz_KeeD> and mount it permanently? I never knew you can do that
[18:53] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: what's the scenario? you reboot into Windows or take the drive to another system that's Windows to read from?
[18:54] <vlad_starkov> Question: How to disable udev upstart script in Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[18:56] <rcrobot> Can someone please help me get Dota 2 running smoothly in 12.04?
[18:56] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: basically, is this NTFS drive *always* attached when you boot the OS?
[18:56] <sere> []=]]
[18:57] <Wiz_KeeD> daftykins, yes it is, it's in the hdd-caddy and boots everytime
[18:57] <Wiz_KeeD> And the only reason I formatted it to NTFS was that I could use it for storage from Ubuntu as well as Windows
[18:58] <MraMaria> hi. what's the name of the ppa to connect PDAs to Ubuntu?
[18:58] <oconnore> hey, does anyone here use an apple keyboard with their laptop? I want to swap alt <-> command but preserve my laptop keyboard layout.
[18:58] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: if you run "sudo blkid" in a terminal it'll give you the UUIDs of your disks. if you edit /etc/fstab to permanently mount your caddy disk to say /media/caddy it'll always be at that path on boot
[18:58] <oconnore> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard#Correcting_swapped_keys_and_wrong_keymaps_for_international_.28non-US.29_keyboards
[18:58] <oconnore> ^ I have applied the fn-key fix here
[18:59] <Wiz_KeeD> so my initial hunch was correct, it has a different path when booting
[18:59] <Wiz_KeeD> let me check
[18:59] <bekks> Dont use /media for fstab mounts, since /media is used by the automounter.
[18:59] <oconnore> but the alt <-> command swap is still bugging me.
[18:59] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: well i'm only guessing that might be what's happening
[18:59] <Wiz_KeeD> /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Caddy" UUID="51DDB6994E6674F0" TYPE="ntfs"
[19:00] <Wiz_KeeD> ok now I put the UUID
[19:00] <conroe> anyone using btrfs?
[19:00] <Wiz_KeeD> without quotes
[19:00] <daftykins> bekks: roger that, what's the alternate best practice? any standards emerging?
[19:01] <Wiz_KeeD> options, dump, pass?
[19:01] <bekks> daftykins: Just use /mnt/yourchoice for manual mounts.
[19:01] <daftykins> i was aware of that part but i don't consider it to have any downsides if you name it differently enough
[19:01] <demophobia> is it already known that libreoffice doesn't work with HUD?
[19:01] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: so put it in /mnt/caddy instead (make sure you create the folder /mnt/caddy too), you can put "0 0" in, no need for those 3 parameters
[19:02] <JaneDoe> Hello what is ? (found in boot log)
[19:02] <bekks> demophobia: What do you mean by "doesnt work"?
[19:02] <xangua> demophobia: what ubuntu release¿
[19:02] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: actually silly me, you will need some options hang on
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> create first, got it, root permission i assume
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> there's nothing in mnt
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> right now
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> strange
[19:02] <demophobia> 12.04, i tapped alt to open it up and typed 'close' anticipating pulling up the 'close' option from the file menu; instead it went to Messages, some other program
[19:03] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: no that's normal, it'll be empty
[19:03] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Then create a directory in /mnt/ and mount your ntfs filesystem at that mountpoint.
[19:03] <Wiz_KeeD> never done this before, so taking it slow
[19:03] <xangua> demophobia: in precise you need to install the lo-menubar package, notice that if you have the libreoffice PPA this packages won't be compatible with it
[19:03] <Wiz_KeeD> created a new dir with sudo named caddy
[19:03] <xangua> !info lo-menubar precise | demophobia
[19:03] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: so the line may appear as "UUID=blah /mnt/caddy ntfs rw,user 0 0"
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> now back to fstab UUID=51DDB6994E6674F0 /mnt/caddy ntfs
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> rw user 0 0?
[19:04] <worm`> how do I specify a service command in /etc/sudoers? I always get syntax error with something like this: myuser  ALL = NOPASSWD: service lightdm *
[19:04] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: yep, with the comma though
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> how so? nothing in fstab has comma
[19:04] <bekks> worm`: you cant specify a command with options. All that sudo is applied on is the command itself.
[19:04] <daftykins> yes it does
[19:04] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: it's because we want multiple options in the options field
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> ahh okay okay makes sense
[19:05] <bekks> worm`: You could create a workaround: create a root script which executes the service lightdm * stuff, and create a sudo permission for that single script.
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> no space between comma I see
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> so what are those options more exactly daftykins ?
[19:05] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: yep, i'd read up on them with the man pages for fstab as they'll explain better
[19:06] <daftykins> ultimately read+write permissions, allow 'user' to mount
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ahhh yes I see now
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ok, great!
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> save and reboot?
[19:07] <worm`> bekks, ok then which one should I specify /usr/bin/service or /usr/sbin/service or /usr/bin/X11/service
[19:07] <bekks> worm`: run "which service" to see which "service" executable is being called.
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo mount -a
[19:08] <dbrom> hello all
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[19:10] <worm`> bekks, thank you it worked
[19:10] <Rallias> How would I go about converting an h265 video file to h264?
[19:12] <Wiz_KeeD> daftykins, I think it has worked! :D
[19:13] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll reboot after Dropbox does the sync and see but it looks really good
[19:13] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you very much daftykins!
[19:13] <dbrom> have a question on getting my wireless card working.... kubuntu isnt able to answer
[19:13] <MraMaria> What is the package name that makes possible to recognize a PDA (in this case a Win Mobile) and handle its data?
[19:14] <MraMaria> ppa.launchpad.net/synce/ seems a bit outdated
[19:15] <worm`> My initial problem isn't solved though : https://paste8.com/6CNQgS0V, even when I run "sudo service lightdm start" under my non-root user.
[19:19] <k-joseph> hi guys,
[19:20] <oddeofreq> i am having trouble opening Firefox
[19:20] <Beldar> dbrom, Let the channel know the wifi hardware, it will show if you run lspci in the terminal.
[19:21] <oddeofreq> when i open it, it will not do anything
[19:21] <oddeofreq> i also cannot download software from the software center.
[19:21] <Beldar> oddeofreq, run it from the terminal firefox and look for errors.
[19:21] <anew> ip route add yourhomeip/32 via 153.130.133.1 sometimes this route is getting deleted from  my server, i have no idea why
[19:21] <anew> anyway to prevent this
[19:21] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: glad i could help :)
[19:22] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Try to keep to one issue at at time.
[19:22] <Wiz_KeeD> I can't believe it was so easy, and now torrents won't say they "cannot find source" when I download to the caddy
[19:22] <Beldar> a*
[19:22] <Wiz_KeeD> just reboot and they start back from where they left off :X
[19:22] <Wiz_KeeD> YAY!
[19:23] <k-joseph> am back, i previously run $sudo passwd -l username on my pc which locked my main account, am now trying to recover this and am not yet successful, i have tried booting into recovery mode and falling into the root shell, run sudo mkdir /mnt/dir and failed with a read only error
[19:23] <oddeofreq> ok.   it says no room
[19:23] <Beldar> !details | oddeofreq
[19:24] <k-joseph> however am now on a live cd of minti
[19:24] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Two issues here that are very important, details and using the nick of who you are talking to, you can tab complete nicks.
[19:24] <sruz25> I'm trying to wget urls in file, one per line, but when I do cat file | while read x; do wget $x;done it always tries to download url%0D instead of just url, when I replace whet with echo, there is nothing odd to bee seen, just my url. Any ideas?
[19:25] <oddeofreq> Beldar i have a problem with runining my Firefox.  I am running Ubuntu studio 13.10.  wheni run it nothing happens.  when i run it in terminal i get a few warnings.
[19:25] <dbrom> Beldr: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 (rev 67)
[19:25] <dbrom>         Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 BGN
[19:25] <dbrom>         Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
[19:26] <oddeofreq> i am also running this off a live USB
[19:26] <Wiz_KeeD> daftykins, you said that it's not a good idea to have the drive ntfs so both OS's can access it?
[19:27] <Beldar> dbrom, You can tab complete nicks so there are correct, so to the channel not me include that info with your problem is all.
[19:27] <Wiz_KeeD> Purely for storage purposes as I said
[19:27] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: well it's probably the best scenario for what you want to do
[19:27] <Wiz_KeeD> that's what I wanted to hear :X
[19:28] <Wiz_KeeD> Allthough I could make it ext4 and use the win dirvers to access it
[19:28] <Wiz_KeeD> But I don't know the speed or stability from windows
[19:28] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: exFAT might also be an option
[19:28] <sruz25> nevermind
[19:28] <yebyen> any gnome/trustytahr users?  my ctrl+alt+t stopped working (to bring up a terminal) but it's apparently still bound, and the gnome-terminal app does still work
[19:28] <yebyen> not sure where to look next
[19:28] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: i think how you have it now is better than Windows and ext drivers
[19:28] <Beldar> oddeofreq, You would want to pastebin the errors, is this a persistent usb or just the live session?
[19:28] <Wiz_KeeD> probably, glad I made a good choice
[19:29] <rustuptwist> TJ- You available? got a question about gParted
[19:29] <Wiz_KeeD> next annoying question...anyone knows how I can permanently have my synclient settings set on boot time?
[19:30] <oddeofreq> beldar how do i pastebin if i cant get on the internet.  i also dont know which i am running on.   my goal is to be able to run this version of linux on whatever machine i am on whether it be at home or at work.
[19:30] <yebyen> I think I better create a fresh trustytahr install
[19:31] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Right, however a limited use setup. Do you know what persistent means with the iso load to the usb?
[19:32] <oddeofreq> beldar,  it has been too long for me.  i thought persistant means that i can make changes on the USB while i am live on it.
[19:34] <thoonai> virtualbox-guest-x11 can't be installed due it has unmet dependencies ... any idea how im geetign around that?
[19:34] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Yeah thats right and they will save, however that persistent file can fill up and is not easily cleanable basically. You posted "it says no room" can you give the context of that?
[19:36] <oddeofreq> firefox:6455): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory: No space left on device
[19:36] <oddeofreq> Could not create per-user gnome configuration directory `/home/ubuntu-studio/.gnome2/': No space left on device
[19:37] <Seveas> oddeofreq: so, clean up :)
[19:37] <Wiz_KeeD> in order to have  a "shortcut" for /mnt/caddy/Dropbox and have it in /home/wiz/Dropbox, I need to create a symlink?
[19:37] <oddeofreq> Seveas, How do i clean up?
[19:38] <Beldar> oddeofreq, How big is the usb flash, how many gigs?
[19:38] <oddeofreq> 4
[19:38] <Seveas> oddeofreq: by deleting files...
[19:38] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Use nicks every time, is it persistent?
[19:39] <oddeofreq> beldari thought i set it up to be for up to 518mb
[19:39] <oddeofreq> beldar i thought i did for up to 518 MB
[19:40] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Not really enough, I would reload it and use all of the usb
[19:40] <oddeofreq> cant i partition the rest of the usb and use it?>
[19:40] <oddeofreq> Beldar cant i partition the rest of the usb and use it?
[19:41] <Beldar> oddeofreq, You can have a persistent file or partition yes.
[19:41] <oddeofreq> oh i think i know what you are saying.    in that case i will just remake the usb for the whole size of the dribe
[19:41] <oddeofreq> *drive
[19:42] <oddeofreq> see you all on the other side!
[19:50] <thoonai> i found the solution: apt-get install xserver-xorg-core removed my desktop :/
[19:50] <thoonai> sometimes I just suck
[19:50] <thoonai> so I leave it for today
[19:54] <cyclist_2> Beldar: I had to be back again just to let you know how well your advice worked for me; while searching for alternatives to Clonezilla at http://alternativeto.net/software/clonezilla/ I found this ***free*** gem of software: Redo Backup and Recovery at http://alternativeto.net/software/redo-backup-and-recovery/about/. The file size is almost double of that of Clonezilla, but at 250 MB it is not too large; I used it exactly how I was ***tryi
[19:54] <Beldar> cyclist_2, Cool.
[19:55] <k-joseph> hi guys, fixed the problem., i mean ressolving from after running sudo passwd -l username,
[19:55] <k-joseph> :)
[19:56] <daftykins> good good, what did you do? chroot?
[19:56] <xxx123> has anyone got guild wars 2 to run on ubuntu?
[19:58] <k-joseph> daftykins: that is right, i did that on a liveCd
[19:59] <k-joseph> hey, this is a cool platform of mess up and fix whether intended or unintended
[20:04] <worm`> Has anyone ever managed to start a GUI app from a tty outside X? Here are the details of my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/411728/starting-a-x11-gui-application-sikuli-from-command-line
[20:05] <yebyen> sure, works for me
[20:05] <yebyen> i don't think you need xhost +localhost:
[20:06] <yebyen> you don't have permission to access lightdm's x server anyway
[20:06] <yebyen> so xhost + will fail
[20:06] <yebyen> you could startx -- :1 to get your own x server
[20:06] <yebyen> then xhost + would be unnecessary, just DISPLAY=:1
[20:07] <yebyen> worm`: you can see xhost: unable to open
[20:07] <yebyen> it's not getting permissions because it doesn't have permissions (to begin with)
[20:09] <worm`> yebyen, I tried with DISPLAY:=1 and startx -- :1 in the script but I get X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[20:09] <worm`> and some other errors messages referring to MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE
[20:11] <yebyen> worm`: your cron script won't be able to startx
[20:12] <yebyen> unless you decrease some of the restrictions on that stuff
[20:13] <yebyen> i don't remember which package needs to be dpkg-reconfigured
[20:13] <yebyen> but something has an option for three levels of restrictedness
[20:13] <yebyen> and the one you currently have set is probably "anyone with a real tty"
[20:13] <yebyen> which excludes cron user, etc
[20:14] <worm`> yebyen, I just remember having installed the ubuntu-desktop package
[20:14] <yebyen> so, start with a real tty, logged in from getty
[20:14] <yebyen> do startx :1
[20:15] <yebyen> and work backwards from there, once your script works from cron as that user
[20:15] <yebyen> (with the x server already running)
[20:15] <yebyen> it might be xserver-xorg or xserver-xorg-core
[20:15] <yebyen> could be xinit
[20:15] <holmser> I have a bit of an issue here, and I was hoping to get some input.  I have a "root" account that I need to secure.  Currently we are using ssh cert based authentication
[20:16] <worm`> I'm not familiar with getty, I connect to my server using ssh or a VNC client if I want the GUI
[20:16] <yebyen> doesn't seem to be any of those
[20:16] <yebyen> when you ctrl+alt+f1, you're at a getty login
[20:16] <yebyen> from the actual physical console
[20:16] <yebyen> if you don't have console access, there's a setting you need to change to enable you to start an x server
[20:17] <holmser> Basically our password policy dictates that passwords need to change every 60 days, so they want me to change the key every 60 days.
[20:17] <worm`> yes I remember from the days I used ubuntu on my personal desktop but this is a VM
[20:17] <worm`> which I can only reach using ssh/vnc
[20:17] <yebyen> so, you need to find that setting, first
[20:17] <holmser> what are the best practices for rotating ssh keys?
[20:18] <_spm_Draget> Is there some release-plan for 14.04? I.e. when the kernel is settled, when the last features-patches may be subitted etc.?
[20:18] <daftykins> _spm_Draget: #ubuntu+1 for future release talk
[20:19] <yebyen> worm`: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[20:20] <worm`> yebyen, I can get the physical console access through VMWare I suppose, would that be easier?
[20:20] <yebyen> worm`: nope, just change it to "Anybody" from "Console Users Only"
[20:20] <worm`> how is it different from logging in through ssh?
[20:20] <rustuptwist> ANYthoughts on who this machine would run with Ubuntu installed Acer Aspire 3000 (http://www.engadget.com/products/acer/aspire/3000/specs/)
[20:20] <worm`> alright I'm trying
[20:20] <yebyen> worm`: that should help... at least you'll be able to startx
[20:21] <karolus1> buenas noches
[20:22] <yebyen> I don't know how it knows if you're logged in from console or not, presumably you have TTY=/dev/pts/* rather than /dev/ttyS* when you come in from ssh
[20:27] <worm`> yebyen, the script is able to use startx now but that's it: https://paste8.com/kwqBqeCJ
[20:28] <manny0080> hey i need installing mac os  in windows in Vbox
[20:28] <manny0080> i need help
[20:29] <worm`> yebyen, ah I might get it: I'm not supposed to see the Sikuli launching messages anymore
[20:29] <yebyen> so it does launch OK, you mean?
[20:29] <manny0080> can somebody please help
[20:29] <yebyen> manny0080: you're in #ubuntu, what does this have to do with macos or windows
[20:30] <manny0080> im using windows 7
[20:30] <yebyen> and you want to run MacOS in a VM... so you come to #ubuntu?
[20:30] <manny0080> n i have ubuntu
[20:30] <mnemon> manny0080: so go to #windows ?
[20:30] <manny0080> yea in virtualbox
[20:31] <yebyen> worm`: hope it works for you
[20:31] <holmser> manny0080: google is your friend
[20:31] <manny0080> i did that n im getting an error
[20:32] <rustuptwist> i have what appears to me to be 4 partitions on the win7 laptop that I want to install Ubuntu. How can i prepare/modify for Ubuntu?
[20:33] <mnemon> rustuptwist: you want dualboot?
[20:33] <rustuptwist> mnemon: yes
[20:33] <mnemon> rustuptwist: shrink one of the partitions to make space for ubuntu
[20:33] <worm`> yebyen, my last c/p was what I got before I try to hit CTRL+C
[20:34] <rustuptwist> mnemon:  i need help in doing it correctly. the last time i tried i caused some problems, making more than 4 partitions. Can you help direct me a bit?
[20:34] <worm`> yebyen, and when I do hit CTRL+C here's what I get https://paste8.com/CJd1RJyZ so I suppose it's not working yet :/
[20:35] <sudonoob> Hi can someone please help? I have installed 13.1 and have blank dash. Tried suggestions online to no avail. Can I get assistance please? Thanks
[20:35] <worm`> by the way I had set the DISPLAY on :2 because :1 is used for xVNC
[20:36] <mnemon> rustuptwist: are all of the paritions primary?
[20:36] <mnemon> rustuptwist: if they are, you need to format one of those for ubuntu or use a different hdd :P
[20:37] <rustuptwist> mnemon:  not to sure im more experieced with macs. i have the following: system 198mb ntfs, C: 279.37GB ntfs, Recovery D: 14.56gb ntfs, HP TOOLS E:
[20:37] <rustuptwist> *HP Tools 3.97gb FAT
[20:38] <mnemon> rustuptwist: doesn't really tell if they're primary or ot but it's likely that you will need to use one of those partitions
[20:39] <zykotick9> mnemon: they're primary ;)  this is the OEM method to prevent gnu/linux installs...  rustuptwist best of luck.
[20:40] <mnemon> rustuptwist: if you have the windows install/recovery disks you could probably delete the recovery partition, shrink the C and use the free space for ubuntu
[20:40] <sudonoob> I have tried install compiz settings, dist-upgrade, update reset-f/org and also tried to use ccsm, but it doesn't allow me to enable Unity Plugin
[20:40] <mnemon> that is, deleting the recovery partition will prevent you from reinstalling windows unless you have the recovery and/or install  disks
[20:41] <rustuptwist> mnemon: i dont have any 'HP branded' recovery discs. I made some kind of service disc the other day via the computer itself. NOt sure if that will suffice
[20:42] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Hiya ... you want me to deal with it? I seem to have some experience :)
[20:42] <mnemon> guess they'd rather have you buy a new pc than burn a few install discs to go with the pc these days when your hdd pops :/
[20:42] <rustuptwist> mnemon: recovery disc is marked (D:) 14.56gb
[20:43] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  yeah that might help. Especially since i did something way wrong the last time. :)
[20:43] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Is this the same laptop we converted last week, re-imaged from scratch?
[20:43] <mnemon> rustuptwist: yes, so you could delete it, shrink the C to make some more room(installing ubuntu in 15GB ain't prolly a good idea ..)
[20:43] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  NO Way! that one is up and running Ubuntu (edubuntu) 12.04.03 as we speak
[20:44] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Yay! So how many are you converting!? As I recall you'd already done one for son #1, and the one we did was for son #2 ... I hope you haven't got 10 sons!
[20:44] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  I do have 8 children but, no this is for my daughter. This will be the last since my ex-wife has the other 4 with her :(
[20:45] <mnemon> well, i'm off but TJ- seems to have the things in hand :) Best of luck with the project rustuptwist
[20:45] <rustuptwist> mnemon: thanks though
[20:45] <sudonoob> Anyone?
[20:45] <sudonoob> :)
[20:45] <jcrza> Hey guys. Is there an easy way to set up a RAID with the ubuntu installer?
[20:45] <TJ-> mnemon: We had to do a complicated dance saving the contents of 1 primary to the top of unused space on the drive, in order to convert to Extended :)
[20:45] <jcrza> I'm not super tech savvy when it comes to this stuff, I just know I want to ahve one drive mirror the other in-case something crashes.
[20:45] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  this is an HP Pavilion 2000 running win7. I have not touched any of the drives/partitions
[20:46] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  trying to avoid that dance again, lol
[20:46] <TJ-> rustuptwist: OK ... Have you got the PC started using the Live ISO image in the "Try Ubuntu" mode?
[20:46] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Let's hope we can do it in 30 minutes not 30 hours :)
[20:47] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  no it is still in Windows. When we put the LIveCD in it does pretty much what the other (compaq) did. Only offer Ubuntu 'inside' windows.
[20:47] <Guest7143> salve
[20:47] <Guest7143> !list
[20:49] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  should I boot it from the LiveCD now?
[20:53] <rustuptwist> TJ-: ???
[20:53] <sudonoob> Anyone free to help me at all?
[20:54] <phunyguy> sudonoob: just ask your question, bud
[20:54] <phunyguy> :)
[20:54] <sudonoob> I have the dreaded blank dash in 13.1 and have tried all suggestions
[20:55] <TJ-> rustuptwist: sorry, was just getting in some provisions :) Yes ... boot from the LiveCD
[20:55] <demophobia> xangua, but i don't remember installing any PPAs -- am i not using default installation software?
[20:55] <demophobia> why is it not installed if libreoffice is installed?
[20:55] <xangua> demophobia: sudo apt-get install lo-menubar
[20:56] <sudonoob> I have tried install compiz settings, dist-upgrade, update reset-f/org and also tried to use ccsm, but it doesn't allow me to enable Unity Plugin
[20:56] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Is there anything in the C: Windows 279GB partition needs to be kept?
[20:57] <demophobia> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/enable-global-menu-for-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ is it because displacing the menu bar from libreoffice would've upset too many newbies?
[20:57] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  you mean beyond normal win7 stuff? I told my daughter to back all her stuff up to Dropbox. she says she did so...
[20:59] <TJ-> rustuptwist: OK ... Because on this one we have to take a slightly different strategy. Because there are 2 recovery partitions following on from the Windows partition, we have to shrink the current Windows partition to make space, so it makes the dance we did last week a little more complicated (if that is possible) since we can't just make a back-up at the end of the drive
[21:00] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Once you've got it started in "Try Ubuntu" mode, and got to the desktop, please start a Terminal window so we have a command-line shell to work from.
[21:00] <TJ-> rustuptwist: And, tell me if that Ubuntu live environment has Internet connectivity by trying to web-browse to some site
[21:00] <demophobia> well, thanks, xangua
[21:01] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  so are you saying that this will be more complicated (read: a longer process) than the other night/morning?
[21:02] <rcrobot> Hi, can someone help me update my Gigabyte mobo's BIOS?
[21:02] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  so at the Ubuntu screen choose: Try ubuntu or install, or F4 or f6?
[21:02] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Not longer, since you're now practised and know what to expect, but the maths needs to be very accurate to avoid over-writing the pre-installed contents of the disk
[21:03] <TJ-> rustuptwist: "Try Ubuntu"
[21:03] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  so not 30 mins but much longer
[21:04] <TJ-> rustuptwist: If Ubuntu will have Internet connectivity then we can have you use the 'xchat' program directly from the PC, which would make the operation more streamlined since you can copy/paste the instructions
[21:05] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  it can at the very least from my phone, but I am concerned. Why do these web pages make it seem so easy to partition and install Ubuntu? is it because the lpatop in question was manf by HP to thwart Ubuntu installs?
[21:06] <Alu> heya
[21:06] <rcrobot> I need help updating my Gigabyte BIOS. Help?
[21:06] <icewalker> iam try to match as many starting with par1=val&par2=2val2&par3=val3&other=one with regex  ^(.+&)other=one  but doesn't seem to work, any ideas?
[21:07] <TJ-> rustuptwist: The problem is the way HP have partitioned the drives. The Master Boot Record can only hold 4 partitions, and HP have filled all 4 slots, so we have to shuffle things around to make it possible to create an Extended partition on one of those 4 slots
[21:14] <shreezbot> How do I change applications that startup when my machine starts up from the command line?
[21:20] <TJ-> shreezbot: If you mean system services, you'd use "update-rc.d" ... "man update-rc.d"
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  is this useful http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-how-to-add-a-program-as-startup-application-from-terminal-178567.html
[21:22] <kieppie> I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 (fairly experienced user), Gnome Shell 3. I'd like some recommendations for a great alternative file manager. mc is so-so
[21:23] <kieppie> not so keen on nautilus
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> kieppie  here's a fewhttp://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/20-file-managers-for-ubuntu/
[21:24] <kieppie> thanks MonkeyDust:
[21:26] <shreezbot> TJ-, Yea, when I do update-rc.d on this application, it tells me "System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/<application> already exist."
[21:26] <Fily> Dear friends, I have a problem. I downloaded Virtual Box and Ubuntu 14.04 ISO AMD 64 and attached it on vbox. My laptop cannot support that release. I cannot install it. So I think I cannot test new version... I bought my laptop in 2007. What do you think about?
[21:27] <TJ-> shreezbot: Are you trying to remove a link?
[21:27] <kieppie> MonkeyDust: still nothing there that blows my hair back. Gnome commander looks to be best of the crop
[21:27] <shreezbot> TJ-, No, just add one
[21:27] <Rory> Fily: Try the 32 bit version =)
[21:27] <shreezbot> TJ-, Well, I just want the application to start up when I reboot.
[21:28] <TJ-> shreezbot: The "update-rc.d enable $SERVICE" should be sufficient, if the script already exists in "/etc/init.d/"
[21:38] <demophobia> I have encountered a problem since installing lo-menubar for libreoffice: Whereas in other programs I can hold down the alt key to bring up the menu for hotkeys, this appears to not function for Libreoffice
[21:38] <da_police> hi guys, how to recover a reiserfs file remotely? i deleted a file by mistaken.. how to recover it?
[21:38] <demophobia> How can I get the menu bar hotkeys working for LibreOffice while still using the HUD?
[21:38] <demophobia> i wish to use both, not to disable one for the other
[21:39] <da_police> is that possible to do reiserfsck without umount the partition?
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> da_police  not sure if reiserfs is supported here
[21:40] <TJ-> da_police: don't do anything!! ....
[21:40] <da_police> TJ: why?
[21:40] <TJ-> da_police: Was the file you are trying to recover opened by any process at the time you deleted it, and if so, is that process still running?
[21:40] <Azrael84> Hi, anyone know how I can change the driver options for intel when using fglrx? (i.e. AccelMethod)
[21:41] <ct85711> I'm getting a strange error saying destination is read-only on random files, when trying to copy them to a disk within the file manager; even though the mounts is setup for rw;  and moving the file via  command line transfers without an issue
[21:41] <da_police> TJ- no, its gone already, no service using it nor replace it
[21:43] <TJ-> da_police: I was hoping you could grab it from /proc/*/fd/* before it was fully unlinked
[21:44] <TJ-> da_police: just in case, you should do "sudo ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep $FILENAME" where FILENAME="<part-of-name-of-deleted-file>"
[21:44] <Hakala> fak
[21:45] <da_police> yes tj, the file is totally deleted already
[21:46] <TJ-> da_police: hmmm, not sure how to proceed then. I'd recommend unmounting the file-system or at least remounting it read-only, and you could investigate whether "photorec" can recover deleted reiserfs files
[21:47] <TJ-> da_police: have you read this? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/ReiserFS_File_Undelete_HOWTO
[21:48] <da_police> i did tj, the thing is, it said i have to do  single-user.. which i only able to do it remotely (since it need to umount), and it need a big space to mirror the "/var"
[21:48] <Fily> Rory, I tried with the i386 release but i obtained the same result
[21:49] <TJ-> da_police: Well yes, that is generally a requirement, you can't go about recovering lost data from free blocks if the file-system is being written to, those blocks may well get reused
[21:49] <TJ-> da_police: do you not have remote console access via net-KVM or IPMI, or some other console provision ?
[21:49] <jhutchins> Fily: It's not entirely clear what you're trying to do - what OS is on the laptop now?
[21:50] <da_police> TJ: only remote ssh
[21:50] <TJ-> da_police: not much you can do then, if you don't have back-ups
[21:50] <Fily> jhutchins, Ubuntu 11.10. It is supported on my laptop but more dodern release no
[21:51] <jhutchins> /ctc/ da_police version
[21:52] <jhutchins> Fily: Ok, were you able to get vbox installed?
[21:53] <sudonoob> Hi All, anyone free to help now?  Sorry im inpatient, but i did log in at 20.34
[21:53] <jhutchins> sudonoob: It is now 15:53
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> :)
[21:54] <sudonoob> ah so 1.5hrs ago lol
[21:54] <user82> does anyone use intel+nvida gpus which are not in a hybrid mode, but rather in a desktop where you have to change them in the uefi. my 3d graphics breaks with nvidia drivers installed and intel activated
[21:54] <Fily> jhutchins, yes vbox is installed without problem on my laptop
[21:55] <jhutchins> sudonoob: I think your question was unclear.
[21:55] <jhutchins> sudonoob: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:55] <sudonoob> fairenough, my apologies
[21:55] <da_police> jhutchins: its a remote server
[21:55] <sudonoob> No dash  - how do I fix?
[21:55] <sudonoob> I have tried install compiz settings, dist-upgrade, update reset-f/org and also tried to use ccsm, but it doesn't allow me to enable Unity Plugin
[21:56] <da_police> jhutchins: the server is 400miles from me, and im in my hometown now
[21:57] <sudonoob> I am in shell now and tried to Run the suggested actions in shell and terminal. i.e. install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:58] <jcrza> Hey guys. So I just installed my new server and selected Mail server as part of the installation. Can you point me to a good guide on exactly where I need to begin with installing/configuring my own mail server from there?
[21:58] <jcrza> I assume there's still lots to do.
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> jcrza  there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:59] <jcrza> Ah, nice
[21:59] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: What version is this ? show cat /etc/issue .
[22:00] <sudonoob> I have just installed 13.10 over windows, rebooted then no desktop
[22:02] <sudonoob> I downloaded the iso from ubuntu, so must be the correct one. I ran sudo apt-get update, install compizconfig-settings-manager too. I also install unity-scope-home all with a reboot
[22:02] <lowenea> How do I inspect encoding quality of an ogg file? Some files are bad encoded even if they have high bitrate at youtube.
[22:03] <sudonoob> how do i select the person i responded to? thanks
[22:03] <bekks> !tab | sudonoob
[22:03] <ct85711> anyone know why you'd get a "destination read-only" error for random files when transfering them to a different mount
[22:05] <sudonoob> ct85711: as above if you can see it, text moves quick in this room
[22:06] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Look at: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[22:07] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: thanks trying that now... back in a sec
[22:08] <Jordan_U> ct85711: What is the source path? What is the destination path? Please post a screenshot of the error message.
[22:08] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | ct85711
[22:10] <Fily> Dear friends, i'd like to install Xubuntu 13.10 on Virtual Box could you tell me where to download ISO? Thanks
[22:11] <k1l> !xubuntu | Fily
[22:13] <sudonoob> Bashinh-om: I get error: plugin ' 'opengl' not loaded
[22:15] <fyksen_> Hey! I have installed ubuntu 12.04 with xbmc/plex home theater. To get 5.1 surround and DTS support, I had to uninstall pulseaudio, and use alsa. I get sound from plex (with dts and 5.1) but not from browser/spotify. Any tips? :)
[22:15] <jhutchins> Fily: So you have the vbox environment working?
[22:16] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: I get error: plugin ' 'opengl' not loaded (sorry trying out the name responder)
[22:18] <Bashing-om>  sudonoo
[22:18] <Fily> jhutchins, yes it works on my laptop
[22:19] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Pastebin that command and it's return, let me see it in context and maybe I can suggest something.
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> fyksen_  #ubuntu-studio is multimedia dedicated, i guess people there can help better
[22:20] <fyksen_> MonkeyDust, ty! Will try!
[22:20] <jcrza> Is there anything like SquirrelMail that doesn't look like it was created in 1995?
[22:22] <ct85711> ubottu: here's the error message, just a regular attempt to move a file http://imagebin.org/289384, the second file is the attempt via command line http://imagebin.org/289385
[22:23] <ct85711> here's the error message, just a regular attempt to move a file (within the file manager) http://imagebin.org/289384, the second file is the attempt via command line http://imagebin.org/289385
[22:24] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: I get Fatal: Root visual is not a Gl visual
[22:25] <SterniLuigi> ciao
[22:25] <SterniLuigi> !list
[22:25] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | sudonoob
[22:26] <Moyel> anyone who can help with this? I think is involves a problem with X
[22:26] <Moyel> http://dpaste.com/hold/1571956/
[22:30] <sudonoob> I am happy to use the above, but i have nothing other than access to terminal lol
[22:31] <Moyel> there are terminal webbrowsers :)
[22:32] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: I am using laptop for messaging in here, so am copying the commands like for like
[22:32] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Code:sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; example: Code:cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ;Copy and paste the URL from the last command into your next post.
[22:32] <jcrza> I'm looking at replacements for squirrelmail, do any of you use either horde or atmail? Are they secure?
[22:33] <ks> Can I monitor ubuntu system events like CPU, RAM, Network and get notification if load goes up and down. I don't need top, nagios, munin etc, just looking for simple lightweight tool that can be used to report potential overload and report that.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> sudonoob:  For me to assist I must see the command used and the complete return - including the errors. Context.
[22:34] <ks> I want to write system service to report changes in 4 metrics: cpu, ram, disk, net
[22:35] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: I am trying so hopefully i can get you whats needed :)
[22:35] <sudonoob> I appreciate the help
[22:35] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Roger, no sweat, Millions do it, you can too.
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> ks  a tool like conky, maybe?
[22:37] <ks> MonkeyDust: more like libstat + custom logic (thresholds and reporting destination)
[22:38] <ks> MonkeyDust: i don't need front-end for GUI, rather pure data
[22:39] <lowenea> How do I convert a .m4a file to .ogg?
[22:39] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Hint; Simple usage: command | pastebinit <- once pastebinit is installed.
[22:41] <demophobia> last.fm doesn't seem to work well with rhythmbox; e.g. i can't get last.fm radio stations to play, or delete them once created ...
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> lowenea  winff is a nice ffmpeg frontend
[22:42] <lowenea> MonkeyDust: I need a command line program. Can I use it for that?
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> lowenea  if you're skilled enough: avconv or ffmpeg
[22:43] <lowenea> How do I do it with avconv?
[22:44] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: http://pastebin/iC8NghH6
[22:44] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: gone to look, brb
[22:45] <sudonoob> pastebin.com/iC8NghH6
[22:45] <sudonoob> bashing-om: http:// pastebin.com/iC8NghH6
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> lowenea  try to learn soem new things from this page https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/help-transcoding-video-with-avconv-4175452069/
[22:46] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: nope, I get my ISP's search page not pastebin .. try again.
[22:47] <schultza> how do i get a saucy ppa to load/update packages on a precise ubuntu?
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> lowenea  or simply       man avconv
[22:49] <k1l> schultza: use a PPA for precise
[22:49] <sudonoooob2> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/iC8NghH6
[22:49] <schultza> ppa for precise doesnt have the latest version of something that is needed
[22:49] <lowenea> MonkeyDust: Thnx
[22:49] <sudonoooob2> try that one
[22:50] <k1l> then look out for another PPA.
[22:50] <Bashing-om> sudonoooob2: still not working for you, my example to show it works ! -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6828924/ ..
[22:51] <sudonoooob2> Bashing-om: http://tinyurl.com/o9g7vun  - I created the tinyurl version
[22:51] <Bashing-om> sudonoooob2: will try again that last, I got pastebin with a server busy notice.
[22:53] <Bashing-om> sudonoooob2:  Yepper, got it ->chris@chris-D1740:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit !
[22:54] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: excellent. hopefully it helps
[22:55] <Bashing-om> sudonoob:  This ->chris@chris-D1740:~$ dconf reset -f org/compiz/ <- does not look proper at all .. I will be back.
[22:57] <Bashing-om> sudonoob:  The leading slash was missing from yoour command ->dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ <-, try again.
[22:57] <bob876> Hello. I'm having trouble with my T61 thinkpad with Ubuntu 13.10 (new install). It randomly freezes and reboots.
[22:57] <TJ-> Bashing-om: if you read further you'll see he did
[22:58] <PoolShark_> hi all... I have a question.. what I'm looking to do is build an Ubuntu server as a dual-WAN router, where one WAN is a slow but reliable DSL connection, and the other is fast but expensive mobile broadband connection. Is there a way I can route traffic based on content to one or the other interface? eg having windows updates, apt-get, youtube streams, and other stuff go over DSL, and regular web browsing go over the mobil
[22:58] <mlody> Hi some one can helo me? I hibernate windows 7 and run grub update now grub doesn't see my windows. How add grub to windows now?
[22:58] <fer755> dunno what is metric 202 param on route command anyone know?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> TJ-: THANKS, haste makes waste.
[22:58] <TJ-> PoolShark_: Yes, there is a way using alternative routing tables in combination with packet marks, but it is not easy
[22:59] <PoolShark_> TJ-: do you know of any place where it is explained how to do it?
[22:59] <H1FuelCell> hey folks
[22:59] <H1FuelCell> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04; I have python 2.7.3 right now, can I install python 2.6.6 near it, is it fraught with danger?
[23:01] <TJ-> PoolShark_: The key phrase is "Linux policy-based routing"
[23:01] <PoolShark_> thanks... let me go try my google-fu
[23:01] <sudonoooob2> Bashing-om: I did it agin, just in case, but you will see i used it (i think)...
[23:01] <sudonoooob2> http://pastebin.com/WtWb5aMq
[23:02] <TJ-> PoolShark_: If you want to make it easier I'd recommend installing Shorewall ... see for example http://www.shorewall.net/MultiISP.html
[23:03] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Do you know for sure your grahics did work ? .. Do you know for sure that you have the appropriate grahics driver for you graphics card ?
[23:03] <TJ-> sudonoooob2: Are you using 13.10? Are you using nvidia drivers?
[23:03] <nicko_94> hi guys, I want to do something quite simple with a bash script: Find the extension of any file. Can you help me with it?
[23:04] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: not completely sure. They were installed when I uninstalled windows
[23:04] <bob876> Is there anything I can do to help solve my computer's problem?
[23:05] <nicko_94> bob876: what's it?
[23:05] <bob876> It's a fresh install of 13,10 on my T61. It randomly reboots :\
[23:06] <TJ-> nicko_94: something like this? " F="/usr/share/doc/apport/symptoms.txt" B=${F##*.}; echo $B "
[23:07] <nicko_94> bob876: have you seen a log of the boot process?
[23:07] <b00md> I am running a server on EC2 and I am trying to get a subdomain to work. I've modified my apache config to point dashboard2.mvp-interactive.com to /var/www/dashboardv2 but for some reason it keeps looking for /var/www - any ideas? here is the pastebin - http://pastebin.com/0SEzFCen  -- the main DNS is hosted with go GoDaddy and dashboardv2.mvp-interactive.com points to my linux server at
[23:07] <b00md> 50.19.234.248
[23:08] <sudonoob> TJ: I am running the OEM disc from Ubuntu and have not installed any drivers.. its a Pentium4 process
[23:08] <TJ-> bob876: random reboots are often caused by overheating or memory module issues. Checking "/var/log/kern.log" *may* reveal some clues but sudden reboots generally mean the log won't be updated with any useful info.
[23:08] <bob876> Thank you, I will look
[23:08] <TJ-> sudonoob: Can you do "lspci -knn | pastebinit"
[23:09] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: let's check, give me a few tics to verify what I have in mind.
[23:09] <nicko_94> TJ-: That's it, man, thank you
[23:09] <Oobii> Question,
[23:10] <H1FuelCell> p
[23:10] <Oobii> The more stuff you have on your laptop (music, pictures, documents) does it make your laptop heavier?
[23:10] <Oobii> ??
[23:10] <PoolShark_> TJ-: Shorewall looks cool... but I need to get deeper than just an IP or an application's port number... I need to get into the application code and break up an HTML transaction across the multiple WANs... for example load all youtube code through the fast interface except for hte video stream itself - send that request out the DSL
[23:10] <PoolShark_> if you get my meaning
[23:10] <PoolShark_> and, just as an example
[23:11] <Oobii> I'm wondering because I want to carry my laptop somewhere
[23:11] <Oobii> but i'm worried if I install too much stuff on it, i won't be able to carry it anmyore
[23:11] <TJ-> PoolShark_: That's why you use poilcy-based routing, Shorewall makes it easier to tie the requirements together and manage them
[23:11] <sudonoooob2> TJ: http://pastebin.com/6B9nt80M
[23:11] <elmer1> :DDd
[23:11] <sudonoooob2> Bashing-om:
[23:11] <Oobii> The more stuff you have on your laptop (music, pictures, documents) does it make your laptop heavier??
[23:11] <PoolShark_> TJ-: oka... well I need to dig into the documentation, but the cursory summary doesn't seem to indicate it can do policies based on HTML content... we'll see
[23:11] <Oobii> help
[23:12] <mlody> I hibernate my windows 7 and enter to Xubuntu. I edit grub using Grub Customizer after restart i dont have windows 7 on grub. I was try grub update but not not see my windows but osprobe see
[23:12] <TJ-> PoolShark_: You can mark packets as they enter netfilters from a process and then use a routing policy later to send them out over the required interface
[23:12] <Oobii> t
[23:12] <mlody> some one now how to add windows i need enter documents
[23:12] <bob876> I'm going to try reproducing the reboot event
[23:13] <TJ-> PoolShark_: You'll need to do deep packet inspection if the router isn't the originator of the traffic, or else route based on destination hosts
[23:13] <Bashing-om> sudonoooob2: pastebin ->sudo lshw -C display, then pastebin ->lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ....
[23:13] <ff29> so i have a few questions about installing amd graphics drivers anyone able to help?
[23:14] <KurtKraut> I've purchased a Asus Vivobook notebook with Windows 8. I'm struggling to make it boot to Ubuntu I've managed to install. All instructions I find online tells to set to off any UEFI or 'secure boot' or 'fast boot' option. But in the BIOS there is no option related to that. Did I purchased a computer that is impossible to use Linux with it?
[23:14] <skinux> Are applications under /opt/ supposed to be owned by root specifically?
[23:15] <TJ-> sudonoob: Your system is using the Intel i915 video driver, so OpenGL support can be problematic at best
[23:16] <sudonoooob2> http://pastebin.com/9NpkDuvk for the first
[23:16] <fulanito> hi
[23:16] <fulanito> can anyone help me to add a route in linux 10.04?
[23:16] <nicko_94> KurtKraut: It depends on the version you installed. It has to be the last one. If not, you'll need to configure your bios to legacy mode (not UEFI one)
[23:16] <Bashing-om> KurtKraut: I think I have seen where ASus is tough.. might take a search on ubuntuforums on some hints to get ubuntu installed.
[23:17] <genii> skinux: Not necessarily. If you had /opt/new-email-server /file.bin   for instance, the dir "new-email-server" could be owned by whatever user might be allowed to be one which runs the binaries under that
[23:17] <fulanito>  route add -host 7.1.4.42 gw 172.16.2.5 dev eth0
[23:17] <KurtKraut> nicko_94, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.10
[23:17] <fulanito> root@ws1:~#  route add -host 7.1.4.42 gw 172.16.2.5 dev eth0
[23:17] <fulanito> SIOCADDRT: No such process
[23:17] <fulanito> any idea why I get this reponse?
[23:17] <sudonoooob2> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/4D0AYY7Q
[23:17] <Bashing-om> sudonoooob2: looking
[23:18] <TJ-> fulanito: Try prefixing the command with "sudo "
[23:18] <fulanito> I am as a root
[23:18] <fulanito> user
[23:18] <PoolShark_> actually I might be able to do this much more easily with squid
[23:18] <genii> TJ-: I thought you would have seen the hashmark prompt ;)
[23:18] <PoolShark_> send everything from squid out the fast WAN, and just tell squid not to proxy the mime types of the content I want going out the DSL
 root@ws1:~# sudo route add -host 7.1.4.42 gw 172.16.2.5 dev eth0
[23:19] <fulanito> SIOCADDRT: No such process
[23:19] <TJ-> PoolShark_: Yes, for HTTP not HTTPS, you could. HTTPS is a bit more complicated
[23:19] <fulanito> I still get no response
[23:19] <nicko_94> KurtKraut: do you know how to get to the bios settings? There should be an option to boot csm mode only. It is a different name for the legacy mode.
[23:19] <TJ-> fulanito: genii: yeah, not reading closely enough
[23:19] <PoolShark_> what's the issue with HTTPS?
[23:20] <KurtKraut> nicko_94, Yes, I do know how to get to the BIOS settings and there is no mention to CSM at all. It is driving me crazy :/
[23:20] <TJ-> fulanito: the reason is, 7.1.4.42 isn't in the 172.16.2.5 network
[23:20] <bob876> I'm back. I can reproduce the reboot issue at will. I can't find anything interesting in the logs but if you would like to look, here is /var/log/dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829034/ and /var/log/kern.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829036/
[23:20] <TJ-> PoolShark_: errr... its encrypted, so you can't cache it, can't even see what host it is requesting, you can only see the destination IP
[23:21] <PoolShark_> TJ-: true point there...
[23:21] <TJ-> bob876: "mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged" MCE == Machine Check Event"
[23:22] <nicko_94> KurtKraut: it is, but it's not as easy as it should. I did this some tome ago. Let me check a few things and I'll tell you how to find it
[23:23] <KurtKraut> nicko_94, thank you in advance!
[23:23] <TJ-> bob876: Run the mcelog daemon and then trigger the event, "sudo mcelog --daemon --syslog" ... you *should* get some more useful output in "/var/log/syslog" or "/var/log/kern.log"
[23:24] <bob876> Ok, here I go!
[23:24] <PoolShark_> hrmm
[23:25] <mlody> Can some one help me?
[23:25] <nicko_94> mlody: be more specific, pls
[23:25] <jhutchins> mlody: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[23:26] <fulanito> where are the ip routes stored in linux/
[23:26] <fulanito> ??
[23:27] <Bashing-om> sudonoooob2: I "think" the Brookdale driver should support unity, we'll try to get the desktop back the quick and easy way:
[23:27] <TJ-> fulanito: In the routing tables
[23:28] <Bashing-om> sudonoooob2: Code:sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop ; re-install the desktop.
[23:28] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: Excellent, just let me know what to do
[23:28] <nicko_94> KurtKraut: You have to go to the bios settings, find the "boot" tab, and enable the Launch CSM option. Please try that and, if it doesn't work, come back
[23:28] <mlody> I was try change default kernel run on grub using Grub Customizer. After save change restart pc on grub i can't see windows i was try this http://pastebin.com/WLfnaM8h . How to add windows again? Now my windows is Hibernate
[23:28] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Code:sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:30] <ff29> so if i am having issues with installing amd drivers, i now have no screen
[23:30] <nicko_94> mlody: did you try the SuperGRUB2 Disk?
[23:30] <ff29> and it appearst fglrx is all sorts of screwed
[23:30] <ff29> i try to do a apt-get install -f which fails and points me to
[23:31] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: and now reboot and let's see what there is.
[23:31] <ff29> .fglrx_2%3a13.101-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[23:31] <KurtKraut> nicko_94, There is a boot tab but doesn't have anything mentioning 'CSM'
[23:31] <sudonoob> bashing-om: Done that and says setting up ununtu
[23:31] <sudonoob> rebooting
[23:31] <ff29> saying theres an error... would it be bad to delete said file?
[23:31] <mlody> nicko_94 no i dont have flash data and clear CD but i need take documents from windows
[23:31] <sammy> what's everyone's favorite mirror for the southwestern US? I can't find anything giving me more than 100-200kpbs :(
[23:32] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: Still no dash...
[23:32] <nicko_94> mlody: you don't really need it. You can use uNetbootin to install it to a partition in your HDD
[23:33] <sammy> maybe its just daytime and everything is innundated but univ of utah, uc davis, kernel.org, a few others were just so slooooooow and the saucy upgrade has 1.2gb to download
[23:33] <kev999> anyone online who can help with ubuntu 12.04lts setup for dns - I used to put entried in resolv.conf - but this has changed
[23:34] <nicko_94> KurtKraut: mmm...can you take a pic of the options that it shows? It's really difficult to help with so less information
[23:34] <TJ-> sammy: that sounds more like you have a local router being overwhelmed
[23:34] <mlody> nicko_94 uNetbootin dont need cd or USB?
[23:34] <kev999> I want my server to resolve requests from other computers on my lan
[23:35] <sammy> TJ-: I can consistently snag 600k from speedtest.net and torrents rn. I am out in the boonies, but I should be able to average 500k+, where the mirrors Ive chosen so far were topping out around 100
[23:35] <nicko_94> mlody: Nope. It can be installed in USB or HDD. Just be sure to select the right iso image, and the right HDD partition.
[23:36] <sammy> maybe I just need to keep going through the list. I'm tempted to try the mirrors.ubuntu.com which does some geolocation based on the requesting IP to do round robin DNS or some sort?
[23:36] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: not looking good, let's try ->sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ; sudo apt-get install unity .
[23:37] <TJ-> sammy: that might help, unless you've got an ISP doing some kind of traffic-shaping for such things
[23:37] <bob876> Ok, I ran the daemon for logging and reproduced the crash. Here is /var/log/syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829109/ and /var/log/dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829111/
[23:38] <sammy> TJ-: i sure hope not. let's see how the mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt deb line works...
[23:38] <sudonoob> Unity is already the newest version
[23:38] <JaneDoe> where can i set the "focus follows mouse" in gnome-shell 3.8.4?
[23:39] <skinux> What is the right way to convert a PNG to an XPM icon?
[23:39] <kev999> bye
[23:39] <kev999> quit
[23:39] <TJ-> bob876: Unfortunately, the MCE is too severe so mcelog isn't able to write to a log before the system resets
[23:39] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: and still no launcher on let of screen, even when slamming the mouse against that lft edge ??
[23:39] <skinux> I thought simply exporting to XPM format would be sufficient. However, that only seems to be exporting a black gradient background.
[23:40] <TJ-> bob876: what do you do, to reproduce the issue?
[23:40] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: Nothing mate. Not even the clock
[23:40] <Bashing-om> sudonoob:  *left
[23:41] <TJ-> sudonoob: Have you tried using the Guest log-in, or creating a new user profile?
[23:41] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: tried that too. I have an untitled folder on desktop. Let me log in as guest
[23:42] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Now that aint making a lot of sense to me for that outcome, let's see what -> sudo dkpg-reconfigure unity <- does.
[23:42] <bob876> TJ: I visit this website http://cardsagainsthumanity.com/holidaystats/ and scroll down to around 1/5th of the page. Then it reboots.
[23:43] <Boreeas> Is there a way to pass compiler flags to make via the command line?
[23:43] <TJ-> bob876: I do notice in the log "pci 0000:00:1f.0: address space collision: [io  0x1000-0x107f] conflicts with ACPI CPU throttle [??? 0x00001010-0x00001015 flags 0x80000000]" ... if the CPU throttle control is inactive, then I can imagine that any processor intensive task could cause the CPU to overheat
[23:44] <fulanito> is there a file where all the routes are stored?
[23:45] <fulanito> ip routes*
[23:46] <sammy> :( that set it to archive.cannonical.com which was suuuuper slow :P I'll just go with uc davis and wait the few hours extra.
[23:47] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: logged into guest session and tried the other bits on main - nothing
[23:47] <a_> i have an issue with block ios and high cpu usage can anyone point me on debugging the issue? i'm using deadline elevator and it seems operating better than cfq, i5 with 1 tb hd as temp disk, raid 10 4 disc array with lvm with 4tb of space as my storage, system is on ssd 8gb of ram, can it be too much for the fakeraid chip?
[23:47] <gustavo> teamviewer works ony 64bit on linux ?
[23:47] <TJ-> bob876: It looks as if there is a more recent BIOS update available for the T61... its worth checking and updating that first
[23:47] <a_> gustavo, yep
[23:48] <gustavo> a_, 32bit not worked ?
[23:48] <a_> gustavo, get the debian pkg for your ubuntu version
[23:48] <MonkeyDust> skinux  GIMP can handle png and xpm
[23:48] <Gorash_> yay serversplit
[23:48] <gustavo> a_, ok, but my ubuntu is 32bit
[23:49] <TJ-> sudonoob: Bashing-om: It's worth using ccsm to check if the unity plug-in has somehow been disabled
[23:49] <fulanito> why I get this ?
[23:49] <fulanito> root@ws1:~# route add -host 7.1.4.42 gw  172.16.2.5 dev eth0
[23:49] <fulanito> SIOCADDRT: No such process
[23:49] <jhutchins> skinux: Generally imagemagick is the best way to convert image files.
[23:49] <jhutchins> fulanito: Your subnet is invalid.
[23:50] <TJ-> fulanito: Because the host cannot gateway through another network, I told you
[23:50] <jhutchins> fulanito: The gateway has to be on the same subnet.
[23:50] <sudonoob> Tj: I tried doing ccsm and when i checked the utility it unticks it when i leave it, even though i enabled all the options
[23:50] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Well, does youe system meet the minimum specs to run unity ?
[23:50] <TJ-> sudonoob: Hmmm, that's not good!
[23:50] <a_> fulanito, jhutchins is right unless specified by iptables
[23:51] <a_> i have an issue with block ios and high cpu usage can anyone point me on debugging the issue? i'm using deadline elevator and it seems operating better than cfq, i5 with 1 tb hd as temp disk, raid 10 4 disc array with lvm with 4tb of space as my storage, system is on ssd 8gb of ram, can it be too much for the fakeraid chip?
[23:53] <sudonoob> TJ: Just checked the min req... I make it
[23:54] <a_> i have an issue with block ios and high cpu usage can anyone point me on debugging the issue? i'm using deadline elevator and it seems operating better than cfq, i5 with 1 tb hd as temp disk, raid 10 4 disc array with lvm with 4tb of space as my storage, system is on ssd 8gb of ram, can it be too much for the fakeraid chip?
[23:55] <TJ-> sudonoob: Are you able to pastebin "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[23:55] <bob876> TJ: Here is something important I just remembered, I DO NOT have this reboot issue when I have nvidia proprietary drivers installed.  But when I have those drivers installed, X crashes (I don't think it left a record in Xorg.0.log) after I return my computer from sleep mode in a number of times (I haven't tried reproducing it but it happens more than once).
[23:55] <mlody> nicko_94 boot/ubenkern not found when i trying use bot unetbootin
[23:55] <viderbit> sry about this question, but is there anyone that can connect to this irc server - efnet.xs4all.nl
[23:55] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: ubuntu/unity likes 2 gigs of ram,, how much are you sporting ?
[23:56] <TJ-> bob876: That might correlate with my thought the CPU has to shutdown ... without the nvidia driver more of the graphics rendering will be done in the CPU, making it hotter.
[23:58] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: It has 1.5gb ram - os type is 32 bit
[23:58] <funky> heya
[23:58] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: should work !
[23:58] <funky> how I can mass search and replace in linux?
[23:58] <sudormrf> hey guys!  was wondering if any of you have any recommendations for decent hosted email services.  looking for something where I can just setup something like 2 users.
[23:58] <funky> search for string in file and replace
[23:58] <sudormrf> this is for private email, not enterprise.
[23:59] <funky> decent means?
[23:59] <ff29> gmail...
[23:59] <TJ-> bob876: This may help to capture more information: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[23:59] <funky> gmail reads all mails
[23:59] <bob876> TJ: Yup. Good reasoning! I'll try reproducing the issue from the nvidia driver. Is there anything I should to prepare for the crash or what I should look at after it?
[23:59] <sudormrf> funky, something that doesn't go down all the time.  gmail is a no go.  thought about icloud, but I wouldn't want them to obsolete the site in a couple of years and have to deal with a mail address change and what not.