[11:19] <ChristW> Anyone here who can help w/ a video driver that seems to be stuck on software rendering?
[11:20] <ChristW> Here's some info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831410/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831414/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831424/
[11:25] <ChristW> Whoops.
[11:25] <ChristW> Don't know if someone seen my question, so here goes again:
[11:26] <ChristW> I have a problem with a video card stuck at software rendering mode. Here's some info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831414/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831424/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831410/
[11:28] <MAD_51> morning
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:41] <kblin> hey folks
[12:42] <kblin> I've got trouble authenticating with my WPA2 enterprise wifi. is there anywhere I can get a proper error log why the connection is failing?
[12:44] <kblin> ah, syslog
[12:44] <kblin> it's a self-signed certificate, but I've told network manager to ignore this
[12:45] <kblin> I still get " OpenSSL: openssl_handshake - SSL_connect error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed"
[12:45] <kblin> connecting to the same wifi in 12.04 works
[12:47] <kblin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1104476 there we go
[13:49] <philinux> Should we be using trusty or devel in our sources.list
[13:50] <ikonia> devel isn't a release
[13:51] <kblin> hm, seems like the icedtea-plugin is buggy :/
[13:51] <philinux> ikonia;~ yeah I know but there was some talk last year about using devel
[13:53] <philinux> ikonia;~ trying to find the info is proving difficult as searching trusty and devel gets a load a hits related to trusty development and changes only
[13:53] <k1l> there was some talk about making a devel "rolling release" when the general ubuntu rolling release an release support timeframes was discussed
[13:59] <philinux> k1l;~ yeah I was wanting to find a citation on that
[14:16] <kblin> ah, no. it just refuses to show a splash screen that asks me if I want to run a webapp with an untrusted cert :/
[16:02] <Ampelbein> philinux, ikonia: devel is a codename that always points to the latest development release (i.e. currently trusty). It was decided by the technical board in July, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2013-July/001052.html
[17:32] <utusan> wtf is this bogus msg - Setting up grub-pc (2.02~beta2-5) ...Installing for i386-pc platform. this is an amd64 architecture installation
[17:35] <TJ-> utusan: All x86 systems start in real-mode
[17:37] <utusan> TJ-: it's already running, and just got an upgrade to grub-pc. that's the msg during the upgrade
[17:37] <TJ-> utusan: The PC starts in real-mode (32-bit) and GRUB doesn't switch into protected mode when booting linux, it lets linux do that
[20:33] <wolfzrat>  is there an ubuntu 14.04 utilty version prerelease out to try out?
[20:34] <genii> !daily
[20:34] <bazhang> wolfzrat, ^
[20:35] <wolfzrat> yes bazhang
[20:35] <wolfzrat> ?
[20:35] <bazhang>  Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ wolfzrat
[20:36] <wolfzrat> ubottu, this link is not the GNOME version is it because i d/l tha one already
[20:37] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[20:37] <bazhang> for 64bit from that link
[20:38] <wolfzrat> ok i unserstand that is the link but, all i want to know if that is the untility version or GNOME
[20:39] <rww> wolfzrat: do you mean Unity?
[20:39] <rww> bazhang: s/+mac// ?
[20:39] <wolfzrat> rwm yes i do
[20:39] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:40] <bazhang> you can install gnome-shell
[20:40] <bazhang> if by gnome you mean that
[20:40] <bazhang> unity is gnome3 shell just not gnome-shell shell
[20:41] <wolfzrat> ok i just wanted the unity version, and taht link you provided is for 32 bit right
[20:41] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-i386.iso
[20:42] <bazhang> amd64 is 64bit i386 is 32
[20:42] <wolfzrat> oh so its not GNOME Desktop evironment? lastnight i downloaded the GNOME Ubuntu 14.04 and when I installed it in my VM it was a complete GNOME desktop environment, and bazhang thanks for the link
[20:43] <bazhang> gnome-shell?
[20:43] <wolfzrat> gimme a sec ill show you bazhang
[20:43] <bazhang> unity is standard, so you'd sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:44] <wolfzrat> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/ubuntu-14-04-flavours-hit-alpha-2-release
[20:44] <bazhang> !find fallback
[20:44] <wolfzrat> i downloaded the "get Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 Alpha 2
[20:44] <bazhang> !info gnome-session-fallback
[20:45] <wolfzrat> i thought it was going to look like 13.10
[20:45] <bazhang> if you want the looks more like gnome "classic" ^
[20:45] <wolfzrat> no bazhang lol let me show you what im talking about
[20:45] <elfy> wolfzrat: there wasn't an Ubuntu Alpha 2 - they didn't do that - so the Ubuntu Daily is what you will find
[20:46] <elfy> only flavours did alpha 2
[20:46] <wolfzrat> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Elh34zFygpA/UXaUrjdsWYI/AAAAAAAAPCo/kUj-cFjs3xw/s1600/ubuntu13.04-raring-ringtail.png
[20:46] <elfy> so the link to the iso bazhang gave above is what you want for Ubuntu
[20:46] <wolfzrat> elfy oh so thats not out yet then?
[20:47] <elfy> they don't do alpha's lately only betas
[20:47] <wolfzrat> the picture above shows what i was talking about
[20:47] <elfy> yes - unity
[20:47] <elfy> there will be no Alpha
[20:47] <wolfzrat> i guess the official release will have it then
[20:48] <elfy> have what?
[20:48] <elfy> unity?
[20:48] <wolfzrat> yes elfy
[20:49] <elfy> the daily ^^ there is the normal ubuntu version
[20:49] <wolfzrat> let me try the iso bazhang_ gave me
[20:49] <bazhang_> ok
[20:49] <elfy> that will be it
[20:49] <wolfzrat> elfy ill put it in my VM
[20:49] <wolfzrat> ok thanks
[20:50] <elfy> wolfzrat: when the Beta 1 comes out it will be the same - no Ubuntu just flavours
[20:50] <wolfzrat> i guess that since i d/l the GNOME one i thought the unity one was not out yet but you say it is and i got the iso d/l so ill try it out
[20:50] <wolfzrat> elfy right
[20:50] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[20:52] <wolfzrat> thank you elfy this is much helpful
[20:52] <elfy> welcome
[21:56] <roothorick> who broke UEFI boot?
[22:07] <bekks> Shaggy says: "Wasnt me..." :P
[22:08] <Pici> 2001 called...
[22:11] <roothorick> efibootmgr is reporting an "Ubuntu" entry
[22:12] <roothorick> it's not there in the setup
[22:13] <roothorick> oh and now it's missing. Strange.
[22:17] <roothorick> well what the hell
[22:30] <roothorick> grub-efi-amd64 appears to be generating the .efi files correctly and putting them in the right place but the firmware doesn't see them at all
[22:44] <roothorick> what the
[22:44] <roothorick> WHY
[22:44] <roothorick> okay look
[22:44] <roothorick> it's an alpha, I get that
[22:44] <roothorick> but's that's precisely why you SHOULD keep old versions in the apt database
[22:45] <roothorick> now I have to manually type in a whole bunch of URLs and screw around with dpkg to get my system bootable again
[22:45] <roothorick> NOT. COOL.
[23:16] <roothorick> oh what the hell
[23:20] <genii> !schedule
[23:23] <roothorick> okay so what else changed
[23:23] <roothorick> why does my system suddenly refuse to boot
[23:31] <roothorick> I'm completely at a loss
[23:31] <roothorick> did a dist-upgrade today, rendered my perfectly fine system unbootable
[23:31] <roothorick> tried reverting to old GRUB
[23:31] <roothorick> no change
[23:31] <roothorick> what the hell happened