| rostam | HI how could I preseed two nic interface one configured with dhcp (i.e. eth0) and one with static ip address (i.e. eth1)? thx | 00:27 |
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| JayF | What package creates the "netdev" group in ubuntu server? | 00:47 |
| sarnold | JayF: looks like it might be avahi: http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=netdev | 00:54 |
| JayF | Ugh. I do not want to install avahi, or network manager, on a cloud server image | 00:54 |
| JayF | but I'm getting knocked by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1054035 | 00:55 |
| sarnold | JayF: ooh, ifupdown also appears to: http://codesearch.debian.net/search?prev=0.206.264&q=netdev&skip=345 | 00:55 |
| JayF | I guess I could just manually create the group in the kick. | 00:55 |
| JayF | hmm | 00:55 |
| JayF | ifupdown is installed | 00:55 |
| JayF | but no such group | 00:55 |
| JayF | let me try a reinstall. | 00:56 |
| JayF | yeah ifupdown does not create a netdev group on saucy | 00:56 |
| JayF | although TIL about codesearch.debian.net | 00:56 |
| JayF | that's pretty sweet | 00:57 |
| sarnold | it's wonderful :) | 00:57 |
| JayF | hah! Powered by Rackspace. | 00:57 |
| JayF | How did I not know aobut this | 00:58 |
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| Wilkim_ | Hello | 02:30 |
| Wilkim_ | I have a unused laptop with ubuntu-server on it | 02:30 |
| MavKen | same here | 02:31 |
| Wilkim_ | When I close the laptop it goes to sleep and turns off in some capcity, and turns on instantly when i reopen it | 02:31 |
| MavKen | i run my company's crm off of a laptop server | 02:31 |
| Wilkim_ | any idea how to prevent it from going to sleep when it closes as i store it under my entertainment center | 02:31 |
| Wilkim_ | nice lol! | 02:32 |
| Wilkim_ | I plan on using it for a developmentp-server | 02:32 |
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| MavKen | goodluck with that, I have to keep screen up and turn off all the power related settings so it doesnt go to sleep | 02:33 |
| Wilkim_ | so you have the same issue? | 02:34 |
| MavKen | yep | 02:34 |
| MavKen | im going to pick up one of those small dell desktop boxes on craigslist for 100 and install ubuntu server | 02:35 |
| Wilkim_ | http://askubuntu.com/questions/360615/ubuntu-server-13-10-now-goes-to-sleep-when-closing-laptop-lid | 02:35 |
| Wilkim_ | that fixes it :) | 02:35 |
| MavKen | no way...wow | 02:36 |
| Wilkim_ | lol, if it wasnt for the internet i would have given up on linux :P | 02:36 |
| MavKen | also, you may want to check out digitalocean.com - I am in the process of moving a lot of my sites over to there | 02:36 |
| MavKen | its a pretty sweet setup | 02:36 |
| MavKen | haha | 02:37 |
| MavKen | yeah | 02:37 |
| MavKen | they have ubuntu images | 02:39 |
| Wilkim_ | that sounds nice ty, but im looking for just make use of my 4 unused laptops lol | 02:40 |
| Wilkim_ | dual cores to quad cores | 02:40 |
| Wilkim_ | decent hardware not being utilizedd | 02:40 |
| Wilkim_ | ones now a development server | 02:41 |
| Wilkim_ | 3 laptops * | 02:41 |
| Wilkim_ | n im giving one to my brother n father lol | 02:41 |
| MavKen | nice | 02:41 |
| Wilkim_ | btw I dont know what you do MavKen but I work for an advertisment company, if you would like to advertise at all let me know | 02:42 |
| Wilkim_ | I dont deal with selling the services at all, but if I could help out a fellow friend then why not recommend it to them? :) | 02:42 |
| Wilkim_ | http://www.yashi.com | 02:42 |
| MavKen | i provide consulting services to small businesses, but have a hobby business for web design/hosting | 02:43 |
| Wilkim_ | Well if you would like to advertise let me know :) or goto that site, then the contact page and send a message | 02:44 |
| MavKen | ok | 02:45 |
| Wilkim_ | we also provide advertisments to people at well if your looking to host ads too | 02:45 |
| rostam | Hi is it possible to disable network manager? thx | 04:50 |
| hitsujiTMO | rostam: uninstall it | 04:53 |
| rostam | hitsujiTMO, would that have any side effect, I guess I want to know is it good to have or not to have network manager? thx | 04:54 |
| hitsujiTMO | rostam: nothing relies on network manager and its safe to remove. just means you need to have an alternative way of configuring your network interfaces | 04:55 |
| MavKen | any recommendations on building a login system? | 04:56 |
| hitsujiTMO | MavKen: what exactly do you mean? | 04:57 |
| MavKen | im creating a lightweight crm from scratch, needing a login system...ive hacked together login systems in the past but wanting to find a different way | 04:58 |
| MavKen | im using php/mysql | 04:58 |
| MavKen | i wish the major frameworks had something built in... i just dont like spending time on the login side of things | 04:59 |
| hitsujiTMO | MavKen: such a question would be more appropriate for #php then | 04:59 |
| MavKen | ok | 04:59 |
| hitsujiTMO | MavKen: one thing tho, use bcrypt/blowfish | 04:59 |
| MavKen | ok thanks, will check it out | 05:00 |
| crass | anyone know how/where/when local-premount initrd script get run from init? | 06:03 |
| Sling | having some weird issues with my apache httpd package all of a sudden, nothing out of the ordinary is appearing in logs but this is what happens: http://apaste.info/knE6 | 08:43 |
| Sling | ah forgot to include in the paste that before the start command there are no apache processes running | 08:44 |
| Sling | this is ubuntu 13.10 with Apache/2.4.6 | 08:45 |
| Sling | also, when I create a config file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ it should be enable-able by a2ensite right? | 08:51 |
| Sling | or hmm does it need the .conf extension.. | 08:51 |
| Sling | so it does, anyway previous issue not yet fixed, any input would be appreciated | 08:54 |
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| hitsujiTMO | Sling: looks like apache2 is being called started impropperly at another point | 09:27 |
| hitsujiTMO | Sling: that or its majorly misconfigured. | 09:27 |
| hitsujiTMO | Sling: have you looked at the error logs? | 09:28 |
| Sling | hitsujiTMO: yup as stated there is nothing out of the ordinary in the apache errorlog | 09:28 |
| Sling | also it actually is started and working fine, but not controllable by service apache2 <action> properly | 09:29 |
| hitsujiTMO | Sling: if you disable all the sites in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ does it still occor? | 09:29 |
| Sling | the httpd starts | 09:29 |
| Sling | its just the interaction between the upstart script and the actual httpd that is borked it seems | 09:30 |
| hitsujiTMO | Sling: apache2 is configured by sysv not upstart atm | 09:30 |
| Sling | okay that then :) | 09:30 |
| hitsujiTMO | have you tried disabling all sites, killing all apache processes and then starting again to see if you get the same hehaviour? | 09:31 |
| Sling | hitsujiTMO: yup, same behaviour | 09:34 |
| hitsujiTMO | Sling: has someone modified the apache sysv init script at some point? | 09:35 |
| Sling | very unlikely, not me at least | 09:35 |
| hitsujiTMO | Sling: if they haven't then the culprit would be the apache config. But don't think that can spawn new processes. | 09:36 |
| Sling | if the apache config would be broken, it wouldn't start | 09:36 |
| hitsujiTMO | Sling: not broken, just misconfigured | 09:38 |
| hitsujiTMO | you can have a misconfigured config that still works but doesn't do what its supposed to do | 09:39 |
| Sling | the httpd does what its supposed to do though.. | 09:39 |
| Sling | it works perfectly fine | 09:39 |
| Sling | but for some reason, the processes that are launched, are not matching some pid file | 09:40 |
| Sling | /etc/apache2/envvars:export APACHE_PID_FILE=/var/run/apache2/apache2$SUFFIX.pid | 09:41 |
| Sling | that file doesn't exist, but /var/run/apache2.pid does | 09:42 |
| hitsujiTMO | $SUFFIX is a var. if its empty then the APACHE_PID_FILE produced is /var/run/apache2.pid | 09:43 |
| Sling | why not /var/run/apache2/apache2.pid ? | 09:43 |
| hitsujiTMO | ahh i see what you mean. you'd have to route thru the init script to see whats going on | 09:43 |
| hitsujiTMO | goes back to the question on if the init script has been modified or not | 09:44 |
| Sling | this fixes it; ln -s /var/run/apache2.pid /var/run/apache2/apache2.pid | 09:44 |
| Sling | but yeah, not proper solution | 09:44 |
| Sling | im guessing that some other package has fiddled with the init script | 09:45 |
| hitsujiTMO | that should not happen. are you using a ppa? | 09:45 |
| Sling | nope | 09:46 |
| Sling | although, there is a dl.google.com_linux_mod-spdy_deb_dists_stable_ in /var/lib/apt/lists/ | 09:47 |
| Sling | hmm | 09:47 |
| hitsujiTMO | Sling: check the init script. maybe the server has been compromised | 09:48 |
| Sling | hitsujiTMO: last modified date was >6 months ago, and dpkg -S shows that only the apache2 package is doing something with that file | 09:54 |
| Sling | anyway, ill investigate further, some time :) | 09:54 |
| hitsujiTMO | tis a wee bit odd of an error | 09:55 |
| hallyn | smb: are you looking at bugs 1180281 and 915954 ? | 10:10 |
| smb | hallyn, Hm, since the bot is on holiday, give me a sec to look what they are | 10:15 |
| smb | hallyn, Ok, replied there but I would think those should be good in Trusty after libvirt 1.2.1 at least | 10:29 |
| hallyn | smb: i haven't actually look in detail; was just wondering if you wer ehandling them. | 10:30 |
| hallyn | smb: yo're saying there are patches attached to the bug reports and those should go into our package? | 10:31 |
| hallyn | smb: if so, I'm currently getting ready to push libvirt to trusty with a new aarch64 patch pushed anyway... | 10:31 |
| rostam | HI how could I configure static IP address with nmcli ? thx | 10:35 |
| smb | hallyn, Now I am not sure you commented before I talked to you. Current code for libvirt1.2.1 should be working | 10:55 |
| hallyn | smb: i commented? | 11:04 |
| hallyn | oh, here you mean :) thought you meant in the bug | 11:04 |
| hallyn | smb: yeah that was before we talked | 11:04 |
| hallyn | thx | 11:04 |
| smb | hallyn, Yeah, sorry for the confusion. :) | 11:04 |
| hallyn | adam_g: hi, for bug 1244694, could you test one more time, and report whether the new package works for you (no regressions) | 11:13 |
| hallyn | adam_g: it woudl be great if you could still reproduce it with the old version, but at least if the new package doesn't regress that's a good data point | 11:14 |
| shwaiil | Hi | 11:52 |
| shwaiil | wondering when is the next LTS version coming up ? | 11:52 |
| cfhowlett | !lts|shwaiil, | 11:53 |
| ubottu | shwaiil,: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) | 11:53 |
| cfhowlett | !trusty | 11:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1 | 11:53 |
| shwaiil | cfhowlett: thanks for looking. looks like a long read | 11:53 |
| shwaiil | just wondering if I should stick with 12.04 for a new server I'm assembling here | 11:54 |
| shwaiil | when I did research someone mentioned to maybe just wait for 14.04, so I wasn't sure if is around or not: ) | 11:54 |
| cfhowlett | shwaiil, new LTS in 3 months - direct uprgrade from current lts to 14.04 | 11:54 |
| shwaiil | cfhowlett: 3 months, cool :) | 11:54 |
| shwaiil | Thank you | 11:54 |
| cfhowlett | shwaiil, no problem | 11:54 |
| DenBeiren | Hey all,.. i'm having some issues with cron not running as it should,.. anyone here to help out? | 12:03 |
| ltlbeaver | DenBeiren, what problem does your cron have? | 12:24 |
| DenBeiren | i addes a line to shutdown at a certain time | 12:26 |
| DenBeiren | it doesn't shutdown at the asked time :-) | 12:26 |
| DenBeiren | i used shutdown -h now | 12:26 |
| DenBeiren | sudo shutdown -h now | 12:27 |
| DenBeiren | tried as user, tried as root | 12:27 |
| ikonia | errr how are you doing that as cron | 12:28 |
| ikonia | sudo requires user access unless you've changes the sudo rules | 12:28 |
| ikonia | and the root account should be locked | 12:28 |
| DenBeiren | i made a cron using crontab -e as my default user, and added the line shutdown -h now | 12:29 |
| DenBeiren | since that didn't work, i tried using sudo | 12:29 |
| ikonia | ok - so thats not going to work | 12:29 |
| ikonia | sudo isn't going to work as it needs user input | 12:30 |
| DenBeiren | since that didn't work i tried the same two things logged in as root | 12:30 |
| ikonia | so again the root account should be locked so you shouldn't be logging as root | 12:30 |
| ikonia | and I suggest you show the EXACT cron line you are using | 12:30 |
| DenBeiren | uhu | 12:30 |
| DenBeiren | what would be the way to go then? :-) | 12:30 |
| ikonia | you could look at a specific sudo no password line for you | 12:31 |
| ikonia | but lets see the exact line you're using | 12:31 |
| DenBeiren | after searching on google i added this line now | 12:31 |
| DenBeiren | 00 07 * * * /sbin/shutdown -p now | 12:32 |
| ikonia | -p is an invalid flag | 12:32 |
| DenBeiren | ok | 12:32 |
| ikonia | it appears you are just copying things blind rather than actually thinking about things/checking them | 12:33 |
| ikonia | I suggest you stop that | 12:33 |
| ikonia | actually research the things you need, eg: man shutdown | 12:33 |
| DenBeiren | i try to do so, but even the manpages are not always that easy for novice users i'm afraid | 12:34 |
| ikonia | ok - but looking if -p is a flag should be basic for if you want to use -p | 12:34 |
| ikonia | it varies from distro/provider | 12:34 |
| ikonia | also try the command manually to get better output, once you know it works you can look at setting it up in cron | 12:34 |
| DenBeiren | shutdown -h works normally as default user | 12:35 |
| ikonia | "default user" ? | 12:35 |
| DenBeiren | i looked at this: http://www.ipaste.eu/view.php?id=1186 | 12:35 |
| DenBeiren | well,.. denbeiren is the normal user i always use | 12:35 |
| DenBeiren | so default user = denbeiren | 12:35 |
| ikonia | ok, so that shouldn't work | 12:36 |
| ikonia | unless you use sudo or have setuid set | 12:36 |
| DenBeiren | it asks for a sudo password when i enter that command | 12:36 |
| ikonia | right, so cron can't do that as it's not interactive | 12:38 |
| ikonia | apply some thought | 12:38 |
| DenBeiren | figure out how to make user a sudouser? | 12:38 |
| ikonia | no, your user is already a sudo user | 12:39 |
| DenBeiren | then i'm afraid i don't know | 12:40 |
| ikonia | ok, so first of all test the sudo command you want to use, make sure it works | 12:40 |
| ikonia | then understand the limitations, eg: sudo | 12:40 |
| ikonia | then update your sudo rules to make the command "shutdown" not require a sudo password | 12:41 |
| zul | jamespage: the dependencies got promoted im just un depwaiting things today | 12:42 |
| DenBeiren | the commands that i would like to run all work | 12:44 |
| ikonia | DenBeiren: ok, so go to the next step | 12:44 |
| DenBeiren | so i need to be checking out changing sudo rules probably? | 12:44 |
| mardraum | how about edit root's crontab? :p | 12:45 |
| DenBeiren | mardraum: seems like that would be a big nono :-) | 12:47 |
| ikonia | depends how you look at it | 12:47 |
| mardraum | there is nothing wrong with using root | 12:50 |
| mardraum | for administration and elevated privs | 12:51 |
| makara | hi. How do I restart sshd on 13.04? | 13:02 |
| makara | remotely | 13:02 |
| makara | `sudo restart sshd` gives `restart: Unknown job: sshd` | 13:02 |
| mardraum | service ssh restart, or old way /etc/init.d/ssh restart | 13:03 |
| mardraum | makara if you are used to BSDs, note that ubuntu tends to drop the "d" | 13:04 |
| DenBeiren | ikonia: thanks for the help so far,.. have to go to work, i will look into it | 13:04 |
| mardraum | eg services like "ssh" "ntp" etc | 13:04 |
| mardraum | though I note that the BSDs don't have a "restart" command I am aware with, so perhaps some other linux distro instead. | 13:05 |
| makara | mardraum, thx | 13:10 |
| ttx | zul, jamespage: was the 12.04 kernel namespace bug brought to your attention ? The one that blocks neutron gating ? | 13:53 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1273386 | 13:53 |
| ttx | probably the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1252508/ | 13:53 |
| jamespage | ttx, yes it has - mark pinged me last night about it | 13:54 |
| ttx | ok, cool | 13:54 |
| jamespage | sarnold, smb: could bug 1273386 have a bit of kernel team attention please | 13:55 |
| jamespage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1273386 | 13:55 |
| smb | jamespage, we will have a look | 14:21 |
| jamespage | smb, ta | 14:26 |
| jamespage | smb, also pinged arges | 14:26 |
| smb | jamespage, So he told me (sitting two seats down the table) | 14:27 |
| jamespage | smb, \o/ | 14:27 |
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| jamespage | smb, any chance you could join openstack-dev? | 15:05 |
| jamespage | smb, probably a regression - "so far we've isolated that happens with 3.2.0-58 and did not happen with 3.2.0-57" | 15:07 |
| smb | jamespage, I can join. That info is good to have | 15:16 |
| jamespage | smb, thanks - it was really just to open up the channel between the neutron dev looking at this and your team | 15:16 |
| shwaiil | Q: I was questioning about user management for my samba file shares, if I can inherit the system users and groups, etc. Someone mentioned that I should use an intermediate access protocol like LDAP. I never did something like that, is that too complicated ? Thanks | 15:44 |
| atpa8a | hello | 15:58 |
| huttan | shwaiil: that is correct. If you setup a ldap server and add the samba schema, you can manage it centrally | 15:59 |
| shwaiil | huttan: Thanks so much for looking! I've got no experience with it but I'm ok about reading and trying. I just wonder if it's too complicated to setup ? | 16:00 |
| huttan | shwaiil: it depends on your experience with servers I guess. I personally found it pretty easy the first time i tried | 16:00 |
| olsonea | Hi #ubuntu-server! I've got a noobish question that I've tried to resolve on my own. I am working with a Wordpress site installed at /var/www. My user is in the www-data group, and everything under /var/www is owned by www-data:www-data. The problem is to modify anything, create a new dir, etc, I still have to sudo foocmd. What am I missing? | 16:00 |
| huttan | shwaiil: and now Ubuntu also provides you with some great documentation | 16:00 |
| huttan | shwaiil: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-ldap.html | 16:01 |
| shwaiil | huttan: thanks, I'll try it then. have you ever found problems with mac osx clients ? | 16:01 |
| shwaiil | most people here use mac books :T a bit worried | 16:01 |
| huttan | shwaiil: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html | 16:01 |
| atpa8a | should update-grub work for efi boot?.. | 16:01 |
| atpa8a | cause mine doesn't | 16:01 |
| huttan | shwaiil: it works great with them too | 16:02 |
| atpa8a | expert mode installation | 16:02 |
| shwaiil | huttan: ok cool :) | 16:02 |
| huttan | shwaiil: if u want to centralize all, might also wanna look into kerberos | 16:02 |
| huttan | shwaiil: just a tip | 16:02 |
| shwaiil | huttan: so, for example, let's say I've got a developer group and I invite a developer here, I connect to LDAP and I can create a new user and he's going to have his own home directory and all that stuff ?! | 16:02 |
| shwaiil | kerberos... oh ok | 16:03 |
| huttan | shwaiil: yepp, as long as the server he logs on is configured to pull login info from ldap | 16:03 |
| huttan | shwaiil: u can also manage sudo rights etc. from ldap | 16:03 |
| shwaiil | huttan: not sure if I'm understanding everything. | 16:04 |
| shwaiil | so my project under /var/www/myProject owned by group "developers" at 192.168.0.77 | 16:04 |
| shwaiil | the developers would authenticate to a LDAP server and | 16:04 |
| shwaiil | ehh... | 16:04 |
| huttan | shwaiil: sure, u can setup apache to auth through ldap | 16:05 |
| shwaiil | hum, so what's kerberos ? | 16:05 |
| huttan | shwaiil: centralized passwords | 16:05 |
| huttan | shwaiil: in a secure way | 16:05 |
| shwaiil | but I can just work with LDAP without kerberos right ? | 16:05 |
| huttan | shwaiil: yeah | 16:06 |
| shwaiil | otherwise it's too much stuff for me to handle, to start with | 16:06 |
| huttan | shwaiil: its not requirement | 16:06 |
| shwaiil | huttan: just one thing, I usually provide a user and password to access a file share | 16:06 |
| shwaiil | with LDAP, it's exactly the same ? | 16:06 |
| huttan | shwaiil: yepp | 16:07 |
| olsonea | huttan: did shwaiil ask the same question I did before I entered? | 16:07 |
| huttan | olsonea: sorry i did not see your question | 16:08 |
| olsonea | about users with group permissions on /var/www? | 16:08 |
| olsonea | Hi #ubuntu! I've got a noobish question that I've tried to resolve on my own. I am working with a Wordpress site installed at /var/www. My user is in the www-data group, and everything under /var/www is owned by www-data:www-data. The problem is to modify anything, create a new dir, etc, I still have to sudo foocmd. What am I missing? | 16:08 |
| olsonea | s/#ubuntu/#ubuntu-server/g | 16:08 |
| huttan | olsonea: i assume ur trying to create it as the www-data user and not ur regular home user? | 16:09 |
| olsonea | ah, let's call my home user olsonea. that's who i am authenticates as, yes. | 16:10 |
| huttan | olsonea: ok then | 16:11 |
| huttan | olsonea: So heres your problem, its owned by www-data so that has to be the one making dirs | 16:11 |
| huttan | olsonea: however, u can add urself to the group and give group write permission on /var/www | 16:12 |
| huttan | olsonea: then u could also make it w/o sudo | 16:12 |
| olsonea | ok, so when i issue the groups command, i am in the www-data group | 16:12 |
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| olsonea | oh | 16:12 |
| olsonea | but it looks like the group only has read perms | 16:13 |
| olsonea | so i probably need to chmod 755 /var/www? | 16:13 |
| olsonea | err, less open, 751? | 16:13 |
| huttan | olsonea: no | 16:14 |
| huttan | olsonea: just do chmod g+w /var/www | 16:14 |
| huttan | olsonea: im not gonna specify recursive, if u need that do it | 16:15 |
| olsonea | gotcha | 16:15 |
| olsonea | huttan: superb, thanks for educating me | 16:15 |
| huttan | olsonea: sure, no problem | 16:16 |
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| shwaiil | huttan: you still around ? I'm wondering, if LDAP have a GUI or a Web interface to allow any one to easily manage the user control access, etc ? | 16:44 |
| shwaiil | I'm trying to avoid creating any dependences | 16:44 |
| shwaiil | I don't want to be asked to manage new users or current users all the time by the command line | 16:44 |
| shwaiil | so just wondering if openLDAP provides that | 16:45 |
| shwaiil | I'm also doing research, maybe I'll find something about it meanwhile | 16:45 |
| pmatulis | shwaiil: openldap does not provide that, no | 16:46 |
| shwaiil | pmatulis: thanks for looking | 16:46 |
| shwaiil | if I'd like to have something like that, is it possible ? | 16:46 |
| pmatulis | shwaiil: i didn't look, i just know | 16:46 |
| pmatulis | shwaiil: it depends what kind of users you're talking about | 16:47 |
| shwaiil | pmatulis: sorry, what I mean with looking, is thanks for answering or thanks for taking your time to answer me, sorry not my native language | 16:47 |
| pmatulis | shwaiil: simple users or administrators | 16:47 |
| shwaiil | pmatulis: let's say any user with admin control be able to manage users | 16:47 |
| pmatulis | http://directory.apache.org/studio/ | 16:48 |
| shwaiil | pmatulis: oh thanks | 16:48 |
| shwaiil | I'll have a look | 16:48 |
| pmatulis | but beware of relying too much on the gui. i recommend learning the basics. 'cause you often need that to be able to debug/troubleshoot anything | 16:49 |
| shwaiil | pmatulis: sure. it's just to ensure that my managers and stuff have a way to manage simpler stuff | 16:50 |
| pmatulis | yep | 16:50 |
| shwaiil | without having to rely on me all the time, I'm just a developer anyway | 16:50 |
| shwaiil | let's say if I'm on vacations and stuff. We are a very small creative studio / agency | 16:50 |
| shwaiil | I do a bit of everything but. | 16:50 |
| pmatulis | for the basics, see the ubuntu server guide --> authentication --> openldap | 16:50 |
| tgm4883 | What causes the screen to blank in ubuntu server? | 16:51 |
| shwaiil | tgm4883: are you running it under a VM ? | 16:51 |
| tgm4883 | shwaiil, no, on an imac | 16:51 |
| shwaiil | tgm4883: happened to me when running on a VM, running in a mini mac | 16:52 |
| shwaiil | but I can still ssh to it etc | 16:52 |
| shwaiil | pmatulis: thanks | 16:52 |
| tgm4883 | shwaiil, and you have to restart it afterwards? | 16:52 |
| conroe | Any suggestions package-wise at installing minimal lighdtm/xorg on -server? | 16:54 |
| conroe | I dont need accounts* and some of the other bloat ;) | 16:55 |
| pmatulis | conroe: openbox/lxde/lightdm | 17:01 |
| conroe | apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommend should do it | 17:25 |
| conroe | figures ;) | 17:25 |
| atpa8a | any clues why upgrade-grub/efi doesn't work? Getting 'Couldn't find physical volume `(null)'. Some modules may be missing from core image..' | 18:38 |
| _atpa8a_ | ... | 18:41 |
| TJ- | atpa8a: Have you got a degraded array? | 18:43 |
| atpa8a | TJ-: yup! | 18:43 |
| atpa8a | a fix? | 18:43 |
| atpa8a | is there? | 18:44 |
| atpa8a | testing efi, /boot on usb flash and / and friends on raid/lvm | 18:44 |
| TJ- | atpa8a: See http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?39527 | 18:44 |
| TJ- | atpa8a: Do you still get "Installation finished. No error reported. " after "update-grub" | 18:45 |
| atpa8a | i think so | 18:45 |
| _atpa8a_ | let me switch to this web interface so i can test | 18:46 |
| TJ- | Well, if so, there's no problem. Grub is warning about the missing device | 18:46 |
| _atpa8a_ | hmm | 18:47 |
| _atpa8a_ | retesting | 18:47 |
| _atpa8a_ | actually want to add "bootdegraded=true" to grub | 18:47 |
| TJ- | Yes, although often it doesn't stop initrd scripts from stopping! | 18:48 |
| InfoIRCNET | Info about IRC http://p.pw/DLV | 19:08 |
| _atpa8a_ | TJ-: thanks man! it worked | 19:27 |
| _atpa8a_ | cool | 19:40 |
| _atpa8a_ | now to trow openstack on it... :) | 19:40 |
| melter | if i run "apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork", why does "apachectl -V" show the MPM as "event" and not "prefork"? | 20:47 |
| sarnold | melter: is the event mpm still installed? | 20:48 |
| sarnold | I would expect it to be preferred if it is installed | 20:48 |
| melter | sarnold: it was never installed | 20:48 |
| sarnold | melter: hrm. odd. | 20:48 |
| melter | sarnold: i just did a fresh install to verify. apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; reboot; apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork | 20:49 |
| === huats_ is now known as huats | ||
| NewInformator | Info about IRC at http://p.pw/DLV | 21:11 |
| genii | Spam. | 21:13 |
| hadifarn_ | I want to change my Virtual Hosts directives in order to stop listening for 127.0.0.1 | 21:48 |
| hadifarn_ | none of the tutorials I read tells me where the hell is that file | 21:48 |
| hadifarn_ | sites-enabled and stuff | 21:48 |
| teward | hadifarn_: you haven't said which webserver you're using | 21:51 |
| teward | since there's many in the repos | 21:51 |
| hadifarn_ | teward: sorry. apache2 on ubuntu | 21:51 |
| hadifarn_ | I changed <VirtualHost *:80> to <VirtualHost 172.20.30.40:80> | 21:53 |
| hadifarn_ | that should do it. right? | 21:53 |
| teward | hadifarn_: i'm going to wait for an apache person to answer, i.e. someone who uses apache (I use nginx) | 21:54 |
| teward | but yes, now that you said it's apache someone can actually help :) | 21:54 |
| hadifarn_ | ok. cheers teward | 21:54 |
| Pici | hadifarn_: If you haven't made any other configuration changes to apache's config, that should be it. Make sure to restart apache afterwards. | 21:55 |
| hadifarn_ | cool Pici. now my status mod should work | 21:56 |
| hadifarn_ | yep. it works fine. thanks | 21:56 |
| rostam | Hi here is my /etc/network/interfaces http://paste.ubuntu.com/6834522/ I like eth0 to be default gateway but it does not, how can I change that. | 21:59 |
| === gary_poster is now known as gary_poster|away | ||
| byprdct | Under what circumstance would the me using the arrow keys cause the terminal to populate stuff like ^[[A instead of showing my most recent commands? | 23:13 |
| sarnold | byprdct: incorrect TERM environment variable, incorrect or missing terminfo for your terminal, maybe incorrect stty settings, maybe incorrect settings in your shell.. | 23:15 |
| byprdct | hmm number of things sarnold | 23:15 |
| byprdct | not happy | 23:16 |
| sarnold | normally when I see that sort of behavior, running 'stty -sane' or 'reset' is enough to fix it, but if it is busted on login, it can be miserable to debug these things.. | 23:16 |
| byprdct | thanks sarnold | 23:16 |
| byprdct | sweet | 23:16 |
| byprdct | going to try that now | 23:16 |
| byprdct | I | 23:16 |
| byprdct | I'm hoping it's not this time | 23:16 |
| byprdct | sarnold are you saying run sudo stty -sane | 23:17 |
| byprdct | or sudo reset | 23:17 |
| sarnold | byprdct: no 'sudo' necessary | 23:18 |
| byprdct | ok | 23:18 |
| byprdct | sarnold I get usage: stty [-a|-e|-g] [-f file] [options] | 23:18 |
| sarnold | byprdct: sorry, 'stty sane'. | 23:18 |
| byprdct | nevermind Im a moron | 23:18 |
| sarnold | wonder how long I've been handing out wrong advice.. | 23:18 |
| byprdct | lol | 23:19 |
| sarnold | it's obviously been ages since I've had similar problems, longer than I thought. | 23:19 |
| byprdct | nope still doing it | 23:19 |
| byprdct | thats a good thing | 23:19 |
| byprdct | it doesn't do it when Im logged in as root | 23:20 |
| sarnold | byprdct: are you using 'sh' or 'bash' for your shell? I just confirmed that 'sh' still gives the ^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[B^[[B results | 23:21 |
| byprdct | I'm not sure how can I tell | 23:21 |
| byprdct | I sshd in | 23:21 |
| sarnold | byprdct: ps auxw | grep $$ ought to do it | 23:22 |
| byprdct | rep: to: No such file or directory | 23:23 |
| byprdct | all three are no such files or directory | 23:23 |
| pmatulis | how do i apply password strength checking on newly-created users? that is, on the adduser/useradd commands | 23:26 |
| sarnold | pmatulis: check out libpam-pwquality | 23:27 |
| pmatulis | sarnold: thanks, will look | 23:27 |
| pmatulis | sarnold: this seems the same as libpam-cracklib | 23:29 |
| pmatulis | sarnold: so applied in common-password , which is for changing of passwords, not creating the initial one | 23:30 |
| sarnold | pmatulis: ah yes, I knew there was another one I couldn't recall.. sigh :) | 23:30 |
| pmatulis | is it possible to enforce 'user must change password after first login'? then i could use the above modules | 23:31 |
| sarnold | pmatulis: does /etc/pam.d/newusers work for this case? | 23:31 |
| pmatulis | right now it points to common-password | 23:31 |
| pmatulis | ldd tells me /usr/sbin/useradd is not pam-aware | 23:33 |
| === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying | ||
| === david is now known as Guest98397 | ||
| Guest98397 | hi running software raid 1. I added the new devices and mdadm did a recovery. So I now have 4 identical drives. I set the boot flag on the new drives on the first partition. Do I have to copy the mbr to the new disks? Is there anything else I need to do to boot the new drives? | 23:46 |
| Guest98397 | I think I'll try dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, that will probably make it boot. | 23:46 |
| sarnold | pmatulis: sorry, back; shadow(5) describes a password expiry that can be used for that, but it's been long enough since I've tried it I'm not sure how it works :) | 23:49 |
| pmatulis | sarnold: i found the chage command, it might do the same. 'chage -d 0 username' | 23:50 |
| sarnold | pmatulis: nice | 23:51 |
| Guest98397 | I used grow to remove the old hard drives | 23:58 |
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