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surgemcgeeHey, does the touch framework support HTTS/SSL? Is it wise?..00:16
spkay31anybody online01:06
spkay31looking to get started porting UT to LG G2 and LG G Pad 8.301:07
spkay31I'm reading up on the porting guide info - i'm experienced developer but new to ubuntu development01:08
RAOFspkay31: Probably plenty of people online; generally IRC works by asking a specific question and then waiting (possibly a while, as timezones exist :))01:12
spkay31Haven't been IRC'ing for many years ;-) Kind of forgot the time lag in the communication protocol - heheh....01:14
Kinnyogreetings01:18
spkay31Hi Kinnyo - newb here01:19
Kinnyoflo/razor is not supported yet? i've been looking everywhere but i cannot find a specific answer about it01:19
spkay31Kinnyo - look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices, Moto Droid RAZR is listed under working but not under cdimage.ubuntu.com01:43
spkay31not sure if that's what you are looking for with flo/razor?01:44
spkay31FILES01:44
spkay31\FILES01:44
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Christianhi02:08
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Guest67888excuse me, I got a question about Ubuntu Phone02:08
spkay31shoot02:09
Guest67888is possible install Ubuntu Phone on Samsung Galaxy S4?02:09
Guest67888cause' I can't find any info about it02:09
spkay31Go to the home url and follow the info. S4 is supported and available for d/l02:10
spkay31https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i950502:11
spkay31your welcome ;-)02:11
Guest67888Thanks dudes02:11
Guest67888kind regards02:11
spkay31Np Christian02:11
spkay31Hope you get installed and help out with QA!02:12
Guest67888Ok, I'll try02:14
spkay31!Files02:15
ubot5An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier02:15
Shaberuhas anyone started on a port of ubuntu for the htc one?02:26
spkay31HTC One = https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/m7spr02:27
spkay31check it out02:27
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ubot5spkay31[A], please see my private message04:35
ajbrandt1the music app still shows songs/albums that i've deleted from the phone. is there a way to clear this cache?05:26
ajbrandt1nobody has a suggestion?05:30
tehsu__Anyone know if CDMA functionality has been added to latest builds, as I can make phone calls just fine on Sprint.05:33
ajbrandt1the music app still shows songs/albums that i've deleted from the phone. is there a way to clear this cache?05:39
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dholbachgood morning08:11
aryxessomeone here?08:43
aryxes??08:43
aryxesif is someone here please say something08:43
aryxes_someone is here?08:45
aryxes_tvoss?08:45
aryxes_you her?E08:45
aryxes_ ?????????????????????????????????08:46
tvossaryxes_, yup, what's up?08:47
aryxes_ehm08:47
aryxes_its ubuntu channel yes?08:47
aryxes_guys i get question08:48
tvossaryxes_, yup, shoot :)08:48
aryxes_i installed ubuntu touch on my tablet (ASUS tf300t)08:48
aryxes_it works perfect08:48
aryxes_but i cant findterminal08:48
aryxes_:D08:48
aryxes_??08:49
aryxes_o-O08:49
aryxes_is anyone here?08:49
aryxes_some1 herE?08:49
dpmaryxes_, swipe to the Applications screen (it's called the Applications Scope), and then08:50
aryxes_ok08:50
aryxes_there is "Applications room" but there is not terminal ^(08:50
dpmyou can use the Search bar at the top to type 'terminal' (without the quotes) and the terminal app will appear in the search results08:50
aryxes_search not responding08:51
aryxes_im thinking about ubuntu desktop08:51
aryxes_not touch08:51
aryxes_just desktop08:51
aryxes_can i install that from TWRP???08:51
dpmaryxes_, in that case, if you want to launch the terminal from the desktop, you can just press Ctrl+Alt+T and a new terminal will be launched08:52
aryxes_im using tablet (asus tf300t) there is not Ctrl + Alt buttons08:52
aryxes_i have doc station but there is not Alt button08:53
aryxes_may i ask something else, can i install ubuntu desktop version on my tablet?08:56
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MirvQt 5.2 status update https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06168.html09:07
davmor2Morning all09:08
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timppaHi! Yesterday I read from voices.canonical.com about the mozilla location project. Are there any plans for UT to use mozilla location database for aGPS=10:11
timppa?10:11
cyphermoxdavmor2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/127362910:33
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1273629 in bluez (Ubuntu) "HSP fails on Ubuntu Touch" [Undecided,New]10:33
davmor2cyphermox: thanks dude10:33
cyphermoxI'm thinking I'll get back to the maguro to hack on it some more, at least to understand why all it does is a loop, but it really also should work on mako10:34
cyphermoxI just don't know how to convince... hci_qcomm_init, I guess, to poke the device just right for the SCO transport to not fail10:35
cyphermoxmy other option is to flash android back on it and look hard10:36
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Laneyhmm11:25
Laneympt: advice required!11:26
LaneyI'm implementing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brightness#Phone ... it turns out that "Adjust automatically" might not always be available11:26
Laneyin that case, should I hide that item or the entire panel? The brightness slider is also available in "Battery" and the indicator11:26
seb128Laney, mpt is on holidays this week (just for info so you don't block waiting on a reply)11:30
Laneyokay11:30
LaneyI've currently got it hidden if powerd isn't running11:30
LaneyI'll MP it like that11:30
seb128Laney, in the past he said that this panel is supposed to become a "screen" one over time11:30
seb128but in the current form hidding is probably fine11:31
Laneythat bit doesn't check if auto brightness is available, just if powerd is running11:33
Laneyho hum!11:33
sforsheeseb128, Laney: fyi powerd has a getBrightnessParams method which tells whether autobrightness is supported, and also the min and max brightness levels11:40
Laneyya11:40
Laneythat's what I'm talking about11:40
sforsheeokay, just making sure :-)11:41
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robjhso. how awsome are things in relation to about a month ago?12:12
ogra_super awwesome :)12:12
ogra_at least awesome +3 ... if not +412:13
robjhthats good. android is getting progressively worse.12:13
robjhgonna want to switch over as soon as ubuntu is viable12:13
om26erhow do I get the running status of an *app* started with upstart ?12:16
om26ermessaging-app in this case12:16
om26ernote: its not a click app yet12:16
ogra_om26er, the init session of the pahblet user should have that info ... initctl should be able to give you the status12:18
mandelbarry, do you remember the bug number for that dict issue with dbus?12:18
mandelbarry, gatox does not remember it :-/12:18
barrysec...12:18
barrymandel, gatox: LP: #121558612:19
om26erogra_, I do:  initctl status application-legacy APP_ID="dialer-app"12:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 1215586 in ubuntu-system-settings "The u/i cannot handle the array-of-dictionaries update descriptions" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121558612:19
om26erit says initctl: Unknown parameter: INSTANCE_ID12:19
ogra_om26er,12:20
ogra_phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ initctl list|grep dialer12:20
ogra_application-legacy (dialer-app-) start/running, process 945912:20
om26erogra_, cool, I can use the result from that in my code12:21
loolpitti: Hey!  I remember you recently wrote a quite simple test for whether one is on 3G or on WiFi, but I cant put my hand on it12:21
loolpitti: would you remember what / where it was?12:21
pittilool: err, did I?12:21
loolpitti: I think so, as part of some testsuite or such12:22
loolpitti: I remember reading a diff you wrote and thinking that it was relatively short and elegant way of checking12:22
pittilool: hm, not really; I created tests for dialer and messaging-app, and for the sensors12:22
ogra_om26er, you want the grep a little mmore fine grained though ... upstart shows "stop/killed" for a while after the app was closed12:22
ogra_so make sure to check for "start/runnning" too12:22
loolpitti: well I must be misremembering then  :-)12:23
loolpitti: thanks anyway12:23
loolor was it evan12:23
pittilool: I haven't really thought about it, but my first knee-jerk idea would be to check "ip route | grep ^default" and see to which interface that goes12:23
looloh yes, whoopsie not apport12:23
pittiand wlan/eth would be ok, ippp etc. not12:23
ogra_well12:23
ogra_you would want to ping the gateway perhaps12:24
ogra_the route pointing there doesnt mean it works :)12:24
loolok, it's whoopsie/src/connectivity.c12:24
loolsergiusens: ^12:25
loolpitti: ^ found what I rememberd, but was from ev, sorry  :-)12:26
pittilool: ah, nice12:26
gatoxbarry, do you have several UpdateAvailableStatus signals or something?? because right now, the signature of the signal that is being connected in system settings is: UpdateAvailableStatus(bool, bool, QString, int, QString, QString) and that doesn't include the descriptions data12:26
barrygatox: right.  it's commented out right now everywhere.  since this is a signature changing feature, i'll have to add it back in a backward compatible way12:28
gatoxbarry, ah ok12:28
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dednickboiko: ping12:36
boikodednick: pong12:38
dednickboiko: hi, I'm working on the active call hint in unity8; ie. https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/125989612:40
dednickIt requires we get notification when a call is in progress so we can show a bar at top of panel. Not sure if I should be going in directly to telepathy for this info, or by going throught the telephony-service-handler.12:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1259896 in Unity 8 "[indicators] add active call hint in indicators" [Medium,Triaged]12:40
dednickboiko: is the telephony-service supposed to handle all active calls, being either voice or voip (eg skype, sip, etc)12:41
boikodednick: so, one way it could be done would be more or less the same way it was done for the messaging menu: unity8 would provide an API to place such notifications, and then the telephony-service would make use of it12:41
boikodednick: right now it is only for real calls, but I think the idea is (or at least the initial idea was) to use that for other voice backends12:42
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boikodednick: but it can be done as a telepathy observer too if you want, I just think that if there is a dedicated APi for that, maybe other 3rdparty apps can use that, even if they are not telepathy based12:47
dednickboiko: hmm.. I don't think we have any public unity8 apis...sounds a bit mad considering it's the shell. Should we not export libtelephonyservice classes for unity8 to use rather? (like the telephony-service-indicator does)12:48
mardyMirv: hi! Do you think we can backport the fix for https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-36491 as a debian patch?12:48
boikodednick: well, it doesn't need to be a unity8 API, it could be something like libmessaging-menu, a DBUS-based API that has its UI implemented in unity812:49
boikodednick: but anyway, I can provide some DBUS properties and signals in telephony-service-handler that you can use to detect whether there is an active call12:52
dednickboiko: yeah, that's maybe a better idea12:54
dednickboiko: but will need things like call time + number/contact as well.12:55
boikodednick: yep, only for the active call, right? you don't care about calls in background12:56
dednickboiko: hm. not actually sure. is background call a "held" call?12:57
boikodednick: yep, but if you have a single held call, that info will be provided to you12:57
dednicki'm thinking probably if there is no active call, but there is one on hold, we would want that one.12:57
dednickok. yup12:57
boikodednick: ok, I will schedule to work on that12:58
dednickboiko: ta12:58
Mirvmardy: certainly13:01
cwaynesergiusens, cyphermox hi guys, this look better? https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/ubuntu/trusty/lxc-android-config/pretty-hostname/+merge/20340013:05
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cyphermoxcwayne: nice!13:06
cyphermoxcwayne: perhaps you don't need the started dbus though, it should be started already if you're at starting bluetooth13:06
cwaynecyphermox, well, hostnamectl does explicitly need dbus to be running though13:07
cyphermoxyes13:07
cwayneso it seems better safe than sorry IMHO13:07
cyphermoxbut I'm saying it will be, otherwise bluetooth will never be starting either13:07
cwayneright, but it can't hurt to be explicit about needing dbus, can it?13:08
cyphermoxno, I guess it can't13:09
cyphermoxI'd just not have it to keep things simple13:10
cyphermoxI'm ok with the merge, let's see what sergiusens says13:10
shiggitayrsalveti, wherefore art thou? lol13:17
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Mirvmardy: I bookmarked the qtbug report but if you can please file a bug against https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src I can refer to from changelog13:36
mardyMirv: sure, thanks13:37
Mirvthanks13:37
sergiusenscwayne, cyphermox Can we just change the description and comment on first line (remove bluetooth ref)13:39
mardyMirv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/+bug/127368413:39
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1273684 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Qt 5.2: JS Array.push() doesn't work on QStringList" [Undecided,New]13:39
cwaynesergiusens, pushed13:41
sergiusenscwayne, I think you missed the 'description' stanza; sorry for not being clear13:44
zsombiricmm: ping13:45
cwaynesergiusens, oops, completely missed that, pushed now13:48
ricmmzsombi: hi13:51
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sergiusenscyphermox, ready to merge cwayne 's MR14:02
cyphermoxgo for it14:02
* cwayne doesnt have the proper permissions to do it i don't think14:05
zsombiricmm: clarification: when an app goe sto background, it is not closed, right?14:07
zsombiricmm: trying to get the StateSaver defaults to be sorted...14:08
loolcyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd-shim/+bug/118426214:38
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1184262 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu Trusty) "times out too early, stuck in PrepareForSleep, causing network and other services to not resume" [High,Fix released]14:38
loolcyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd-shim/+bug/125212114:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1252121 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu Saucy) "missing PrepareForSleep signal after resuming, causing networking to stay disabled" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:41
loolpitti: I'm hit by something which looks like LP #1184262 and LP #1252121 here  :-)14:42
ubot5Launchpad bug 1184262 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu Trusty) "times out too early, stuck in PrepareForSleep, causing network and other services to not resume" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118426214:42
Saviqbfiller, hey, could you please take a minute and answer the four questions in https://code.launchpad.net/~bfiller/unity8/disable-predictive-text/+merge/203390 description?14:43
bfillerSaviq: sure14:43
bfillerSaviq: done14:46
Saviqbfiller, awesome, thanks14:46
Saviqbfiller, can you remind me how to enable predictive text please?14:46
bfillerSaviq: there is a setting in the Language and Text settings panel for word prediction14:47
bfillerthat will toggle it14:47
Saviqbfiller, ah14:47
mterryelopio, hello!  I remember you were working on an AP test for installing a click package from scratch.  (Fallout from the nested landing + regressions)  Is there an MP I can track for that?14:48
elopiomterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/unity-scope-click/install_with_account/+merge/20340414:48
elopiomterry: all done, except the download. I need to figure out a way to get a valid click file.14:49
mterryelopio, OK, thanks!  And thanks for working on it  :)14:49
pittilool: oh - it's been some time since I met anyone (that I can potentially get physical hold of) who still has this problem14:50
elopiomterry: no problem.14:53
elopioit was just a coincidence that you needed it when I was working on it :)14:53
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akitoruHello! Im new to porting etc. Actually I haven't done it before. Is there anyone who can teach me how to port Touch to my Ace 2?15:12
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loolpitti: it's well reproducible here on a new install, and I've seen other people with the bug on forums15:42
loolpitti: it seems to hit retina macbooks with the new broadcom chip15:42
loolpitti: (bcmwl-kernel-source DKMS driver)15:42
loolpitti: I did some debugging with cyphermox but he is out of ideas15:43
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loolpitti: he suggested turning to you for debug  :-)15:43
pittilool: did you look at a D-BUS debug log? Do you get the PrepareForSleep=false signal?15:43
cyphermoxwell, we still have the idea that the JobRemove signal/method for whatever that needs to happen on resume, doesn't15:43
loolpitti: so what happens is that NM is properly notified that it should go to sleep state (PrepareForSleep true), but then never back to wake up15:43
pittithat's the root cause for the NM behaviour15:43
loolissuing nmcli nm sleep true fixes the problem after resume15:44
pittiand there were like 3 different bugs why it was missing15:44
loolpitti: So I have not yet captured DBus traffic, need to do this now15:44
loolpitti: what we have tried is adding #undef IS_GDBUS_UNIXFD_AVAILABLE t top of network-manager/src/nm-sleep-monitor-systemd.c15:45
looldidn't help15:45
cyphermoxlool: dbus-monitor --system --monitor | grep -A 5 -B 5 Prepare15:45
pitti(note that you need to enable this first, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingDBus)15:45
loolpitti: we've also seen that only one place seems to send the PrepareForSleep false, and that would be systemd-logind, but it seems to filter the dbus traffic to match a job finished signal or something like that, which sounded like systemd-init related15:46
cyphermoxwell, it's a signal anyway15:46
cyphermoxI do get it, but my system has a lot of shit running. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6832639/15:46
cyphermox(and it actually immediately resumes for now, not sure why, but could be related to all the messing I did with android so far15:47
cyphermoxoh, and the usb driver connected, oops15:47
loolpitti, cyphermox: Ok, did the dbus-monitor thing and I'm only getting the PrepareForSleep true15:51
loolexactly one call15:51
pittilool: that's bug 1252121 then15:52
ubot5bug 1252121 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu Saucy) "missing PrepareForSleep signal after resuming, causing networking to stay disabled" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125212115:52
loolhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6832671/15:52
loolpitti: Yes, that's the one I found as best matching my symptoms15:52
loolpitti: so it was missing a dbus log; is the above grep sufficient?15:53
pittilool: it's sufficient to confirm that it's that bug15:53
pittibut I have NFC why it would be missing :/15:53
pittilool: did you already try running system-shim in the foreground, as in the bug trail? I suppose that doesn't give any errors any more15:54
pittiif it does, that would be a surprise and something to get a handle on15:54
pittisorry, need to disappear for some 30 mins15:54
loolpitti: I did not, just reading this in the bug log15:54
loolpitti: ok15:54
loolpitti: attached log to bug report16:03
cwaynecyphermox, hey, do you have permissions to top-approve that MR?16:04
cyphermoxyeah, should, hold on16:04
cyphermoxcwayne: I think you still someone to merge that to lxc-android-config manually16:06
cwayneah, no autolanding.. hmm16:06
frecelpopey: Either the HTML5 template in the SDK is broken or ubuntu-html5-lanuncher is broken on the latest proposed16:06
popeyhi frecel16:07
popeydpm_: who knows about html5? ^^16:07
frecelpopey: hi16:07
cwayneogra_, hi, any chance you could merge https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/ubuntu/trusty/lxc-android-config/pretty-hostname/+merge/203400 for us?  I don't think I have the proper permissions :)16:07
dpmpopey, frecel, that'd be knitzsche, alex-abreu or daker ^^16:08
dakerfrecel: ?16:08
ogra_cwayne, you dont need permissions, you need upload rights ;)16:08
alex-abreufrecel, what does it say?16:08
cwaynewell, you know what i mean :P16:08
ogra_cwayne, hmm, that will run on each boot16:09
frecelgive me a second I'll run it again16:09
cwayneogra_, is there an easy way to make it only run once?16:09
frecel/usr/bin/ubuntu-html5-launcher: cannot execute binary file16:09
frecelso it looks like it's the launcher16:09
cwayneotherwise, it just bails out because ! -s /etc/machine-info will be false16:09
alex-abreufrecel, /usr/bin/ubuntu-html5-launcher: exists ?16:10
ogra_cwayne, have a look at /etc/init/boot-hooks-emit.conf16:10
frecelalex-abreu: yes16:11
ogra_cwayne, i think stgraber designed it so that you can have boot hooks that only run once16:11
alex-abreufrecel, there is a fix for that one that is pending, will be released soon,16:11
alex-abreufrecel, there was a packaging issue16:12
frecelalex-abreu: oh, ok16:12
cwayneogra_, but doesnt it still do every boot?16:12
cwayne    initctl emit boot-hooks WHEN=every-boot16:12
ogra_cwayne, that script just emits the event, the job in the subdir should then react to either "every-boot" or "new-version"16:14
ogra_that way you would at least only run it on upgrades16:14
ogra_iirc we had first boot stuff in lxc-android-config as well somewhere, let me lok16:15
ogra_*look16:15
ogra_cwayne, add it to /etc/init/lxc-android-boot.conf ... (above the -d android stuff, then it applies to both container models16:16
ogra_)16:16
ogra_oh, hmm, rsalveti changed that to also run on every boot :(16:17
ybonI've flashed my UT on Nexus4 running a Android 4.4, no wifi nor phone call was working, then I've downgraded image radio following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation#Android4.4Radio and wifi or phone call started to work, but still no 3G data available. Any hint or clue how to debug that? :)16:17
cwayneits also not in lxc-android-config ogra_16:17
ogra_root@ubuntu-phablet:/# dpkg -S /etc/init/lxc-android-boot.conf16:18
ogra_lxc-android-config: /etc/init/lxc-android-boot.conf16:18
ogra_it is here16:18
cwaynenot in lp:ubuntu/lxc-android-config etc/init...16:19
ogra_no idea what that is16:19
cwaynethe actual branch16:19
cwayneah16:19
cwaynethat's weird16:19
cwayneit's in debian/16:19
ogra_we dont maintain that in bzr :)16:19
ogra_ah, k16:19
ogra_hmm16:20
ogra_we really need a run-once mechanism ...16:20
seb128mardy, hey, do you know what's the status of supporting unity-control-center in gnome-control-center-signon?16:20
ogra_adding job over job to our bootprocess will in the end make our boot reallly slow16:20
pittilool: thanks; I followed up with some hints as to how debug it efficiently, but at this point I'm afraid it needs to be debugged on an actually affected machine16:21
ogra_hmmm ...16:22
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ogra_cwayne, i wonder if the upstart-file-bridge couldnt help here16:23
ogra_so that the job only fires if the file doesnt exist16:23
cwayneit exists, but it's empty16:23
ogra_having a job isnt to costly ... whgat is costly here is that the script block spawns a shell (even just to test if the file is non empty)16:24
ogra_jodh, does the upstart-file-bridge allow firing based on "file exists but is 0 byte" ?16:25
* ogra_ guesses not ... since there wouldnt be an inotify event for that16:26
cwaynebfiller, hey, do you have a link to those test plans for telephony/address-book apps?16:32
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bfillercwayne: from the status report you mean?16:35
cwayneya16:35
bfillercwayne: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiE68jdtyfBcdHJkNFpFZEdHVGduSjl5UjFyNlpDcWc#gid=016:36
cwaynebfiller, awesome, thanks man16:37
bfillercwayne: as I said, sure thing16:37
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Tassadarcwayne: hi again, I just realized I asked you to send me dmesg from my N5, but didn't actually tell you what my e-mail address it's - well, it's vbocek@gmail.com16:54
frecelWhy when submiting a click package all I can choose is PC Only for hardware?16:57
beunofrecel, historical reasons, it'll be fixed  :)17:01
frecelbeuno: but my app will still be avaliable for touch right?17:01
beunofrecel, it will17:02
frecelbeuno: alright, that's what I wanted to know17:02
Saviqjodh, hey, I just had bug #1222705 again, it only retraces to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6833113/ though17:12
ubot5bug 1222705 in upstart (Ubuntu) "init assert failure: alloc.c:633: Assertion failed in nih_unref: ref != NULL" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122270517:12
Saviqjodh, anywhere I could get you more info? like the actual abort message?17:13
Laneyboiko: can you tell me how to reproduce that problem you found please?17:29
boikoLaney: yep, so, I restarted the phone, changed the ringtone in settings and made a call, this works17:31
boikoLaney: then I went to ubuntu-system-settings again and changed the ringtone and made a second call to the phone, the previous ringtone was still used17:32
boikoLaney: btw, using the packages you gave me there was still the dependency problem but I used --force to install them17:32
Laneyah, so maybe you aren't using the system-settings which writes to AS still17:34
Laneydo this: gdbus call -y -d org.freedesktop.Accounts -o /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 -m org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get com.ubuntu.touch.AccountsService.Sound IncomingCallSound17:34
Laneyand see if it shows your new one17:34
boikoLaney: let me see17:34
Laneyumm, http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-system-settings-trusty-armhf-ci/87/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip is 40417:35
Laneyso I guess you can't have installed that :P17:35
boikoLaney: yeah, I built that manually17:35
boikoLaney: it points to the correct file17:36
Laneyhmm!17:36
boikoLaney: if I kill telephony-service and restart it, it gets the correct ringtone17:37
boikoLaney: but if I change things on-the-fly, it doesn't17:38
Laneyit's supposed to receive a change signal17:38
Laneythat bit must be busted17:38
boikoLaney: yep, I see that in the code, not sure why it is not working17:38
boikoLaney: did you reproduce the problem there?17:38
Laneynot yet, I don't have the right system-settings installed atm17:39
boikoLaney: ah ok,17:41
Laneywell, it'd be good if I could figure out how to do it with gdbus call17:41
* Laney fails at being able to specify variants there17:41
Laneyah, got it17:44
Laneyboiko: yes indeed, it happens here17:44
boikoLaney: ok, nice it is not just me :)17:45
Laneyi'll look into it17:45
boikoLaney: nice! thanks17:46
Laneyboiko: For my reference, how can I run telephony-service in the foreground to get debugging out of this code?17:50
boikoLaney: well, it is just running telephony-service-approver by hand on a terminal17:50
Laneyokay17:50
boikoLaney: it doesn't have much debug print though17:50
LaneyI guess I'll be adding some17:51
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om26eris mako image broken ?18:21
om26erI see phone signals but no calls since yesterday18:21
kenvandinewoot!18:22
kenvandinetedg, i got multiple instance management working in the hub18:22
popeyom26er: works for me18:22
popeyom26er: both directions18:22
popeyom26er: sms too18:23
om26erpopey, i wonder its something to do with my sim18:24
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seb128does anyone know offhand how to switch the channel from a touch install from trusty to trusty-proposed?18:45
seb128ogra_, ^? ;-)18:45
ogra_system-image-cli --channel trusty-proposed -b 018:46
seb128ogra_, is that going to download or anything for me, or just change the channel?18:46
* seb128 tries18:47
ogra_it will flash a new image18:47
seb128no no no18:47
ogra_(it has to, you cant just switch channels)18:47
seb128not what I want ;-)18:47
seb128shrug18:48
ogra_well, the only option to switch18:48
seb128I guess I'm just going to wait for the next image promotion then18:48
seb128didrocks, when is that happening? ;-)18:48
didrocksseb128: I think you have to ask ricmm :p18:49
seb128shrug18:49
ogra_once it works18:49
seb128didrocks, ogra_: I'm going to land the system update setting refactoring without actual device testing I think then18:49
* seb128 crosses fingers that works without issues18:49
seb128I need an update to test that the update still works18:49
seb128but seems like that's not happening any time soon18:50
didrocksseb128: we can create an image in the proposed channel if you need one18:50
ogra_seb128, that will make many people really really angry if it breaks18:50
didrocks(or you can flash an older channel)18:50
seb128ogra_, well, give me a way to test then?18:50
didrocksolder revision*18:50
seb128so I need to redo the whole circle to change from trusty to trusty-proposed?18:50
seb128how do we migrate users from e.g saucy to trusty?18:51
seb128we ask them to reset their device?18:51
didrocksseb128: hum, you don't need to do that18:51
didrocksyou can flash trusty-proposed with rev -218:51
seb128didrocks, I was hopping to not have to download a full image again18:51
didrocksand then, you should get an update18:51
seb128it feels weird to me that I can update for e.g image 41 to 43 while 43 is in proposed18:52
seb128but I could do the same update with the same images once the image is promoted18:52
seb128*can't*18:52
seb128we only generate the diff when the image is flagged?18:52
seb128stgraber, ^18:53
didrocksnormally, for every images from what I know18:53
seb128ogra_, editing /etc/system-image/channel.ini to change the channel seems to be enough...19:01
Saviqis emulator supported on nvidia drivers these days?19:30
tedgkenvandine, Sweet, did you see I put that up for review last night?19:59
kenvandineyup19:59
tedgkenvandine, Has observers and all that jazz.19:59
kenvandinecool20:00
kenvandinebfiller_afk, do you have a branch of gallery-app that builds a click?20:00
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bfillerkenvandine: yes, one sec20:01
bfillerkenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~bfiller/gallery-app/click-support/+merge/20123820:02
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kenvandinebfiller, woot... my branch works with your gallery click20:22
bfillerkenvandine: nice!20:22
kenvandinethis all blocks on tedg's ual branch landing :)20:22
cwayneBIBS20:23
bfillertedg: land that please :)20:23
kenvandinebfiller, are you waiting for anything else for that?20:23
kenvandinei saw a comment about the camera as click needs to land too20:23
bfillerkenvandine: yup that too20:23
kenvandineis that ready?20:23
tedgkenvandine, The whole untrusted-helper thing or just the triplet API?20:24
kenvandineand anything else?20:24
kenvandinetedg, both20:24
tedgAh, we'll need a silo!20:24
tedg:-)20:24
bfillerkenvandine: although camera doesn't use content-hub so it's not blocked on the ual thing20:24
kenvandineyeah, but it blocks gallery20:24
bfilleryup20:24
kenvandinebfiller, i also want to go through my code a bit more before i propose it20:25
kenvandinei rewrote quite a bit of stuff20:25
bfillerkenvandine: sure20:25
kenvandinemultiple times :)20:25
kenvandinebut now with the untrusted-helpers branch of ual... i can do this sanely20:26
* kenvandine goes for lunch20:27
bfillerkenvandine: so for the new landing process each component needs a test plan to be run before releasing, I started it for content-hub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/content-hub20:35
bfillerkenvandine: please update as you see fit20:35
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cwaynestgraber, ping20:42
NewInformatorInfo about IRC at http://p.pw/DLV21:15
FuLgOrEcould somebody please show me what is in '/persist/wifi/.macaddr' because the path /persist doesn't exist on my N521:20
TassadarFuLgOrE: partition /dev/mmcblk0p16 is supposed to be mounted there. It is mounted inside of the Android container, but not in Ubuntu's root21:24
Tassadarby the way, are you using some kind of multiboot or not?21:24
FuLgOrEno, I just have ubuntu installed21:24
Tassadargood, it's a bug then, rsalveti already knows about it21:26
Tassadaron completely unrelated note, can you get send me dmesg from ubuntu touch? I'm trying to find out if some bug is present only in my multiboot thingy or if it is normal installation too (and report that bug if that's the case)21:26
FuLgOrETassadar: I tried to send you my dmesg21:30
FuLgOrEanother try?21:30
Tassadaryeah, I didn't have those ports enabled in my firewall, I think21:31
FuLgOrEdo you still have the mails from mailing-list?21:31
FuLgOrEI put my files inside there21:31
pmcgowanrobru, I can reproduce that accounts thing, I just close it in running apps in the dash and it will never reopen21:32
pmcgowanrobru, but thats a day one bug afaik21:32
TassadarFuLgOrE: I'm not subscribed to that mailing list, maybe I should be)21:32
TassadarFuLgOrE: try to send them over IRC again, I'm curious if it'll work now21:34
FuLgOrEhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6834376/21:34
FuLgOrEtry that one21:34
FuLgOrEshould be easier21:35
Tassadaryeah)21:35
Tassadarthanks21:35
Tassadaryeah, the same problem, theres like 30s freeze between 3 and 33 seconds since boot21:36
pmcgowanrobru, updated the bug, pretty sure thats what davmor2 was doing21:36
FuLgOrEbooting takes long21:36
FuLgOrEtime21:36
robrupmcgowan, the online accounts delay?21:36
pmcgowanrobru, not being able to open it again21:37
pmcgowannot sure why it seems to get slower21:37
robrupmcgowan, bah, do you have teh bug link?21:37
pmcgowanhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/127378121:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1273781 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "If you open the accounts page in the settings app and close it you can't reopen it" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:37
robrupmcgowan, thanks21:37
pmcgowanrobru, I think its a bug for mardy, I pinged him with an email21:38
pmcgowanhe needs to rework that into a plugin21:38
pmcgowanor something21:38
TassadarFuLgOrE: yeah, that's the reason - it just stops and does nothing for 30s21:38
robrupmcgowan, dunno. i'll try reflashing 150 to see if i can reproduce it21:38
pmcgowanrobru, I really think its always been like that21:38
pmcgowanI complained some months back it worked differently21:39
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kaimastis there any documentation on GVariant in python? cannot find that much about it :/21:39
robrupmcgowan, oh i see, if I specifically long-press-close the online accounts app, then settings app can't launch it again. true.21:45
robrujust pressing back and launching it again is fine though21:45
popeypmcgowan: i saw the online-accounts bug today too21:48
popeywas with davmor2 when he filed it, we saw it on mako and maguro21:48
pmcgowanpopey, I was saying I do not think its new21:49
robrupopey, do you have to long-press-close to trigger it? or are you seeing it just by hitting back within settings?21:50
popeyi didnt long prese close21:50
popeyjust settings -> online accounts, then swipe launcher out to open something else21:50
popeythen go back to system settings, can't get to online accounts21:50
popeyseems online accounts appears as a second app in addition to settings21:51
pmcgowanthat scenario works for me21:51
pmcgowanpopey, thats the real issue21:51
popeyyeah21:51
pmcgowanpopey, it runs as a new app, not part of settings21:52
pmcgowanbut it always has21:52
pmcgowanand needs to get fixed21:52
popeyi only recently noticed it, and davmor2 reminded me of it today21:52
popeyi dont use online accounts frequently21:52
pmcgowanyep, but not a regression21:52
popeyright21:52
popeysure, not arguing it is. ☻21:53
pmcgowanpopey, I mean it should not block promoting an image21:53
popeyagree21:53
pmcgowanI asked mardy and seb about it, will see if its already planned which I suspect21:54
robrupopey, ok, just reproduced with image 14821:54
FuLgOrETassadar: you told me, that /dev/mmcblk0p16 should be mounted on /persist. do you have that in your fstab? I only have 5 entries there. /, /system, swap, /data and /vendor21:57
Tassadarno, it's not there - it is a bug21:58
Tassadaryou can try to add it21:58
FuLgOrEI will :)21:58
TassadarFuLgOrE: if you know how to change kernel command line in boot.img, you can also speed up the boot - replace "console=ttyHS0something" with "console=tty0"22:05
FuLgOrEI don't know how that works. Is it important or does it only fix the 30s delay?22:08
Tassadarit just fixes that delay22:08
FuLgOrEok, than I wait with that :)22:08
FuLgOrEat first I try to get my wlan-device stable :)22:11
FuLgOrETassadar: I guess the 30s bug will be fixed sooner or later, right?22:12
TassadarI'll try to get it fixed, I'd write to the mailing list, but I wasn't subscribed at the time that "call for testing" message was sent22:12
FuLgOrEI found another two little problems on my N5. the terminal app is just a white screen and the welcome-screen don't show information (function is switched on in settings)22:14
Tassadaryou mean the circle on the "lockscreen"?22:15
TassadarI don't think that's implemented yet22:15
FuLgOrEright22:15
FuLgOrEhmm, I still get new wifi devices after rebooting... could you please show me what you have in /persist/wifi/.macaddr? I just see freaky signs inside...22:16
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Tassadarit's probably the mac address in some binary format22:16
Tassadarit may be mounted after the driver tries to read it, do you still have messages about it missing in your dmesg?22:17
FuLgOrEI didn't check it. I will do that now22:17
FuLgOrE[    1.798620] bcm_wifi_get_mac_addr: Failed to get information from file /persist/wifi/.macaddr (-2)22:20
FuLgOrEbut it exists22:20
FuLgOrEmaybe mounted to late?22:20
Tassadaryeah22:21
FuLgOrEmy dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6834616/22:21
Tassadarit fails the first time, but the second time it get's the address (search for "wifi_get_mac_addr")22:23
FuLgOrEdo you also use a N5?22:25
Tassadaryes22:26
FuLgOrEeach time I reboot I get a new wlanX with a new mac address22:27
Tassadaryeah, me too22:27
FuLgOrEhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6834632/22:28
FuLgOrEthis is my /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persisent-net.rules22:28
FuLgOrETassadar: how is your terminal app working on N5? Also just a white screen?22:34
FuLgOrEI also saw something else strange: when the battery is fully charged and the charger is still plugged, I see the symbol of an empty battery22:35
Tassadarthat battery thing happens to me too22:35
TassadarI'll check the terminal, let me reboot to ubuntu touch22:35
Tassadarterminal works for me22:37
Tassadarit takes a while until it shows though, like 3-4s22:37
Tassadar(and I'm using MIR)22:37
FuLgOrEoh, really?22:37
FuLgOrEI will try that, too :)22:38
FuLgOrEI touched the /home/hablet.display-mir and rebooted. it works22:45
FuLgOrEdo you know how to check if it is really working?22:45
Tassadarpidof surfaceflinger22:46
Tassadarif it doesn't return anything, then it's running mir22:46
FuLgOrEok, thanks. it doesn't return anything22:46
FuLgOrEI didn't try mir until now because I thought it don't works22:47
FuLgOrEsome hours before I made some updates via apt-get. now the symbols are bigger and locking more nice22:49
Tassadaryeah, the DPI is set correctly now22:49
FuLgOrEwith mir, the terminal app is working now22:50
cwayneyeah, no more shenanigans side-stage either :)22:54
newhi23:08
ubuntuhi23:11
ubuntusome there?23:11
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tablethi23:12
tabletis someone there?23:13
FuLgOrEyes23:13
tabletis there already an new release date for ubuntu touch?23:14
FuLgOrEI would guess someday in april23:15
tabletThats what I read lately23:16
geniitablet: The current plan as far as I am aware, is to follow the main Trusty release schedule. So that would put it on ( traditionally) last Thursday of April23:17
tabletSo do you know what devices will be supported23:17
geniiOr the third Thurs23:17
tabletthanks23:18
spkay31[A]Tablet - you should look at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices to determine what is likely to be in the release23:19
genii!schedule23:19
ubot5A schedule of Raring Ringtail (13.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule23:19
* genii smacks ubot523:19
spkay31[A]stupid bots23:19
tabletgreate this helps23:20
spkay31[A]NP23:20
tabletso have a nice day23:21
tabletbye23:21
phunyguyubot5: hi23:21
geniiA schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule23:21
spkay31[A]quiet down ubot523:22
geniiubot5: !schedule is <reply> A schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule23:22
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harrisI want ubuntu touch pn nexus 7 201323:29
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geniiThe bot should be synced now, hopefully23:30
genii!schedule23:30
ubot5A schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule23:30
* genii slides tsimpson a coffee23:30
spkay31chop_liver see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices - Nexus 7 is there already23:30
chop_liverThat is the 2012 model23:31
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spkay31What's different in N7 2013? I think it is very similar to LG G2?23:32
softcoderits asus23:32
softcoderdifferent hardware23:32
HarrisThere is a back camera23:32
Harris3 speakerz instead of 123:33
spkay31what CPU23:33
Tassadarit's just 7 inches big Nexus 423:33
softcoderhttps://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_16gb_201323:33
softcoderCPU23:33
softcoderQuad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon™ S4 Pro, 1.5GHz23:33
spkay31oh, so basically form factor changes23:34
softcoderwireless is newer i think also23:34
HarrisSpkay when is it coming23:34
softcoderWireless23:34
spkay31I want LG G2 VS980, also G Pad 8.3 would be nice23:34
softcoderDual-band Wi-Fi (2.4GHz/5GHz) 802.11 a/b/g/n23:34
spkay31I'm a newb here bro, just starting to get familiar enough to try builds for my LG G2 and G Pad 8.323:35
spkay31So was Harris volunteering to port UT to N7 2013 :-d23:57

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