| daftykins | diddledan: yeah it's becoming a bit crazy the whole sex scandal stuff, don't know whether it's legit or what | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | though a mates uncle apparently said something about such things being a lot more acceptable back in the day :S | 00:14 |
| daftykins | whatever that means | 00:14 |
| diddledan | daftykins: sorta like <croaky old-man voice>"back in my day you could fiddle with whoever you liked"?</croaky> | 00:37 |
| diddledan | I think rather than it being acceptable it was more not known and/or swept under the carpet and placed behind closed doors | 00:38 |
| daftykins | could well be | 00:42 |
| daftykins | i'm a bit torn though 'cause you've got the likes of Rolf Harris as a national treasure that will likely never work again, regardless of which way the court ruling goes | 00:43 |
| diddledan | yeah | 00:43 |
| diddledan | I really don't want the stories of Rolf to be true | 00:44 |
| daftykins | but obviously justice should be served =/ | 00:47 |
| diddledan | indeed | 00:47 |
| daftykins | though i'm not sure anyone really gets any result from seeing someone locked up so many years down the line | 00:48 |
| diddledan | the only benefit I see from doing so is if there's a chance they'll reoffend | 00:49 |
| daftykins | yeah | 00:49 |
| daftykins | seems a bit late given most have had so many years to do whatever | 00:49 |
| shauno | anyone know if it'd cause any problems to wire the usb power rails together on a Pi? (ie, from the two usbhost ports to the power microusb) | 00:58 |
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| ali12341 | shauno: check the schematic - the usb rails are all connected together anyway iirc, except that there's the polyfuse on one of them | 01:24 |
| ali12341 | so basically all you'd be doing is removing the polyfuse from the circuit | 01:24 |
| shauno | fair enough. I jsut recall getting odd looks when I had the previous revision backfed (powering the usbhost sockets powered the board; I'm not sure if this is still the case) | 01:26 |
| ali12341 | i'm pretty sure that hasn't changed, but removing the polyfuse is risky of course | 01:27 |
| daftykins | shauno: maybe you had the big monkey with you at the time? :> | 01:51 |
| daftykins | "here's my incredibly small r-pi and here's my incredibly large monkey!" | 01:52 |
| shauno | :( don't judge me, I like my monkey | 01:54 |
| shauno | I think that one was a happy accident; I used one of the Y cables from a harddrive to power a 3g modem, and discovered that unplugging the pi didn't reboot it | 01:55 |
| daftykins | oh no i'm supporting you and your monkey, sir | 01:58 |
| mapps | yo | 07:07 |
| * mapps is excited about ibiza | 07:07 | |
| MartijnVdS | mapps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXXRHpVed3M ? | 07:30 |
| mapps | need | 07:32 |
| mapps | for smoke | 07:32 |
| mapps | :D | 07:33 |
| knightwise | morning everyone | 07:36 |
| MartijnVdS | \o knightwise | 07:39 |
| knightwise | jeu MartijnVdS !è | 07:43 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: that's not a word ;) | 07:46 |
| MartijnVdS | "!è"? | 07:46 |
| * popey waves from that london | 08:03 | |
| AlanBell | o/ popey | 08:04 |
| AlanBell | that is bright and early to be in the city | 08:04 |
| popey | indeed | 08:04 |
| knightwise | it is now :) | 08:27 |
| knightwise | hey popey AlanBell | 08:28 |
| SuperMatt | morning all | 08:28 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Data Privacy Day! :-D | 08:40 |
| SuperMatt | \o/ | 08:41 |
| SuperMatt | what a nice day | 08:41 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:41 |
| * popey can hear davmor2 | 08:42 | |
| mapps | hey | 08:51 |
| mapps | hi popey | 08:51 |
| mapps | popey, youre in farnbirough? | 08:51 |
| mapps | im quite close to where you are i think :) | 08:52 |
| mapps | Bisley | 08:52 |
| jussi | hrm, anyone know any standalone *desktop* (not a php/cloud solution) lead management tools? (like pipedrive.com, but standalone, desktop client) | 08:53 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: desktop CRM? Why?! | 09:08 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:08 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: "installed on own server" close enough? AlanBell in that case :) | 09:09 |
| jussi | MartijnVdS: I need something personally. not for sharing with anyone else, that runs stand alone here on My PC. | 09:10 |
| davmor2 | hey popey fancy meeting you here :) | 09:11 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: Yeah, so you run it on your own PC, listening only on 127.0.0.1 | 09:11 |
| jussi | MartijnVdS: openerp doesnt seem to cut it at the moment - it doesnt have a proper sales process for anything apart from tangible goods. | 09:11 |
| mapps | morning | 09:12 |
| jussi | oh wait, I can install more modules, lemme play more... | 09:12 |
| mapps | gooing on Ibiza MartijnVdS :D | 09:12 |
| popey | mapps: no, I'm in London ☻ | 09:13 |
| jussi | MartijnVdS: hrm, actually that might be an interesting Idea, install openerp locally... | 09:14 |
| mapps | ah | 09:15 |
| mapps | i tought you were near me popey | 09:15 |
| mapps | im from Biskey | 09:15 |
| popey | i am | 09:15 |
| popey | I live in farnborough | 09:15 |
| popey | ☻ | 09:15 |
| mapps | yea | 09:15 |
| popey | i know bisley a bit | 09:15 |
| mapps | you know bisley then | 09:15 |
| mapps | yea | 09:15 |
| mapps | and pirbright | 09:16 |
| ali12341 | ha biskey? | 09:17 |
| mapps | Bisley;p | 09:17 |
| mapps | surrey's nice popey | 09:17 |
| mapps | i domt live there anmore anyway | 09:17 |
| popey | friend of mine lived in arethusa way | 09:19 |
| popey | actually, first date with wifey, we went to the pub at the end of bisley, near brookwood | 09:19 |
| mapps | popey, thats real cose tpo where i am | 09:20 |
| mapps | heh | 09:20 |
| mapps | bis;leys nice like no? | 09:20 |
| mapps | i wish i still lived there:D | 09:20 |
| mapps | its where my dad lives | 09:21 |
| popey | yeah, nice area | 09:21 |
| Laney | bisley pellets | 09:23 |
| Laney | forever burned into my eyes | 09:23 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:23 |
| Laney | (not literally) | 09:23 |
| Laney | (that would be painful) | 09:23 |
| bigcalm | Would it? Are there nerve endings in the eyeball? | 09:24 |
| bigcalm | The front bit that is | 09:24 |
| Laney | ever poked yourself in the eye? | 09:25 |
| bigcalm | Yes, but that's pushing the whole ball back into the socket. I'm wondering if you'd feel anything if the lens was damaged | 09:26 |
| foobarry | clear | 09:26 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: have you ever had a branch (of a tree) hit you in the eye? | 09:27 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: that's painful and teary for a week at least | 09:28 |
| foobarry | you guys are grim | 09:28 |
| jussi | Im pretty sure there are - how else do you feel a peice of dust in your eye? | 09:28 |
| * bigcalm keeps quiet | 09:28 | |
| popey | davmor2: options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 | 09:28 |
| foobarry | my problems with intel 6230 wifi were made better by disabling powersaving | 09:29 |
| davmor2 | popey: ta I'll try it and and report back :D | 09:32 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: you're up early | 09:34 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: in London I've been up since 0400 | 09:34 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: ah, it's a Calonical day | 09:35 |
| foobarry | colonical? | 09:36 |
| bigcalm | It's a running joke from our LUG | 09:38 |
| MartijnVdS | Colonical? | 09:38 |
| foobarry | note to self. its not cex.com, its cex.co.uk for the electronic exchange store | 09:40 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: remind me to hurt you when I see you next :D | 09:40 |
| bigcalm | \o/ | 09:41 |
| DJones | Are there any offline roadmap/navigation apps people would recommend for android, starting to try a couple out, wondered if there are any really good ones to try | 09:43 |
| ali12341 | the tomtom one? | 09:46 |
| DJones | The two that seem to get really good comments are Sygic and MapFactor | 09:46 |
| DJones | Tomtom one seems to have pretty poor reviews | 09:48 |
| Myrtti | DJones: google maps 'offline' maps aren't available? | 10:02 |
| DJones | Myrtti: No as far as I know, that facility was removed a while back | 10:02 |
| Myrtti | well android still kinda has it, but it's not available everywhere | 10:03 |
| dwatkins | DJones: this appears to be a list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android | 10:03 |
| dwatkins | many of the apps mention offline | 10:03 |
| DJones | You can get a small area if you download it beforehand, but doesn't have full details from what I've read | 10:03 |
| DJones | Just downloading Mapfactor to compare to Sygic | 10:05 |
| brobostigon | good morning boys and girls. | 10:19 |
| SuperMatt | morning brobostigon | 10:22 |
| brobostigon | morning SuperMatt | 10:22 |
| diddledan | foobarry: the .com is blocked by opendns' malware detector | 10:25 |
| bigcalm | Is there an easy way to awk/sed/grep (I don't know what) the current tag for a git repo? | 10:35 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: my propmt does it, so probably :) | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: mine too, good point | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\]\h\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033[31m\]$(__git_ps1 "(%s)") \[\033[01;34m\]$\[\033[00m\] ' | 10:37 |
| * bigcalm scratches his head | 10:37 | |
| MartijnVdS | __git_ps1 is defined in /usr/lib/git-core/git-sh-prompt | 10:37 |
| bigcalm | Oh | 10:37 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe "git describe" is what you want? | 10:38 |
| bigcalm | This is for an automated deploy script. Need to create remote directories based upon the tag | 10:39 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: have a look at "git describe" | 10:39 |
| MartijnVdS | it does tag + sha | 10:39 |
| bigcalm | $ git describe | 10:40 |
| bigcalm | fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. | 10:40 |
| bigcalm | I'm guessing I need to tag before it'll work? | 10:40 |
| MartijnVdS | probably | 10:40 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe add some options.. --help ;) | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | No, I expect other people to do my work for me! :P | 10:41 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: well, look at stackexchange then ;) | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | Hehe, some people are rather lazy on there | 10:42 |
| bigcalm | I hope I'm not being hypocritical now | 10:42 |
| ali12341 | bigcalm: what do you actually want to do? | 10:44 |
| bigcalm | <bigcalm> This is for an automated deploy script. Need to create remote directories based upon the tag | 10:44 |
| ali12341 | ok. yeah, git describe is almost certainly what you want | 10:44 |
| bigcalm | Grand :) | 10:44 |
| ali12341 | by default it does <repo name>-<tag>-<number of commits since tag>-<commit sha> | 10:45 |
| ali12341 | so it's always unique to where you are in history | 10:45 |
| bigcalm | Aha | 10:46 |
| ali12341 | see also git archive | 10:47 |
| bigcalm | aquarius: found the holy grail of printers yet? | 10:50 |
| aquarius | no. | 10:50 |
| aquarius | It's not even *for* me | 10:51 |
| aquarius | my dad has two printers, a cheap laser and an inkjet, and is sick to the back teeth of both of them not working | 10:51 |
| aquarius | hence him asking me for advice, and me asking you lot :) | 10:51 |
| bigcalm | I'm happy with the Lexmark laser printer I have. I understand that other people have problems with devices though... | 10:51 |
| ali12341 | we've got a HP M175NW | 10:54 |
| ali12341 | it works fine. cheap printer but the toner is expensive, but that's not a problem if you don't print very much | 10:54 |
| ali12341 | the demo cartridges have lasted a year already | 10:54 |
| MartijnVdS | aquarius: I have an HP CP1515n, had it for several years, haven't replaced the demo carts yet | 10:55 |
| MartijnVdS | Also, it works very well (no malfunctions yet) | 10:55 |
| aquarius | so, "works fine" and "no malfunctions" means that you never get the thing where you send a page to print and nothing happens, or the computer can't see the printer, or the printer won't print and needs to be power-cycled, or...? | 10:57 |
| ali12341 | they are both network printers | 10:57 |
| aquarius | you just go "file > print" in some app and it prints, every time? | 10:57 |
| ali12341 | sure | 10:57 |
| aquarius | blimey. | 10:57 |
| ali12341 | (on linux) | 10:57 |
| MartijnVdS | aquarius: the only times it didn't print, was when I broke cups | 10:57 |
| ali12341 | windows printing is totally random, doesn't matter what printer you have | 10:57 |
| aquarius | ooh, man, that HP M175NW is two hundred quid. | 10:58 |
| aquarius | that's cheap? | 10:58 |
| ali12341 | it was £99 on argos last year | 10:58 |
| ali12341 | also it's a scanner and copier | 10:58 |
| MartijnVdS | isn't that the one popey has as well? | 10:58 |
| bashrc | avoid printers unless there really isn't any alternative | 10:58 |
| ali12341 | don't think so | 10:58 |
| aquarius | bashrc, there isn't. I made that argument and was rebuffed. | 10:58 |
| bashrc | in my experience, printers are always trouble - even if you buy the most fancy expensive machinery | 10:59 |
| aquarius | bashrc, I agree wholeheartedly with that assessment. However, no choice here, hence looking for recommendations for the least worst. | 10:59 |
| ali12341 | i generally find network printers work best, as they're not relyng so much on the OS | 11:00 |
| aquarius | network is a good idea. My laser is networked. | 11:00 |
| aquarius | I assume network printers have wifi these days? | 11:00 |
| ali12341 | the 175 does | 11:00 |
| ali12341 | and ipv6 too | 11:00 |
| bashrc | yes, a network printer might reduce any compatibility problems | 11:00 |
| ali12341 | and it comes configured to serve up a public access point into your network | 11:01 |
| ali12341 | which is not so good | 11:01 |
| popey | that is the printer I have | 11:01 |
| popey | this one has wired and wifi | 11:01 |
| ali12341 | yeah. i'm using it wired | 11:01 |
| ali12341 | didn't notice it was also letting the general public onto our network | 11:01 |
| popey | mostly wifey uses it. I don't use it much | 11:01 |
| popey | on nice | 11:01 |
| aquarius | I mostly don't care about the public access point thing. :) | 11:02 |
| directhex | oh, it's aquarius | 11:02 |
| aquarius | and I can probably turn that off, anyway | 11:02 |
| aquarius | heya directhex | 11:02 |
| ali12341 | you can, i have :) | 11:02 |
| aquarius | popey, you've got the M175NW? | 11:02 |
| * aquarius looks at wifi HP laser printers. | 11:02 | |
| ali12341 | you can make it just join your existing network too of course | 11:03 |
| aquarius | ali12341, which is exactly what I shall do | 11:04 |
| aquarius | I suspect I'll need to connect it with usb first to get at a config util to set the wpa key, or something. | 11:04 |
| ali12341 | nope | 11:04 |
| ali12341 | i've never plugged it in on USB | 11:04 |
| aquarius | ali12341, how did you teach it the wpa key? | 11:05 |
| ali12341 | i didn't - i use it wired | 11:05 |
| ali12341 | but you can configure it over the network, so either get a ethernet cable or join it's default public wifi | 11:05 |
| popey | aquarius: ya | 11:05 |
| aquarius | oh, sneaky | 11:05 |
| ali12341 | USB requires installing the silly drivers | 11:05 |
| MartijnVdS | 200GB drivers, probably, on Windows? | 11:06 |
| aquarius | yeah, I'll just make it be wired for five minutes. | 11:06 |
| ali12341 | MartijnVdS: yeah, exactly | 11:06 |
| aquarius | hplip supports it, so dad'll be fine | 11:06 |
| ali12341 | i thinky ou still need the drivers to print from windows | 11:06 |
| popey | its not a fast printer | 11:06 |
| popey | i haven't printed to it from linux yet | 11:06 |
| ali12341 | it works perfectly with ubuntu | 11:07 |
| bigcalm | Does it offer airprint? - found this to be a requirement by my mother for their new printers | 11:07 |
| popey | nice | 11:07 |
| ali12341 | it's not fast but that's not a problem unless you are self publishing your novel or something | 11:07 |
| popey | well, wifey wants to print lots of school work | 11:07 |
| popey | but yeah, mostly thats fire and forget | 11:07 |
| ali12341 | it's also not eaxctly slow compared with say, any inkjet | 11:08 |
| MartijnVdS | also, you can touch the paper later on without it streaking | 11:08 |
| Dave2 | I wonder if you can sensibly get a dot matrix printer shared via CUPS. | 11:09 |
| aquarius | don't care about print speed, as long as it's not taking half an hour per page or something :) | 11:09 |
| ali12341 | it's mostly warm up/warm down | 11:10 |
| ali12341 | printing 10 pages only takes slightly longer than printing 1 page | 11:10 |
| aquarius | bigcalm, don't need airprint -- parents are both Android phones, and I honestly can't imagine for the life of me them ever printing anything from phone anyway ;) | 11:10 |
| aquarius | ali12341, yeah, that's how most stuff works in my experience | 11:10 |
| popey | i dont find that's the case with what I print | 11:12 |
| popey | takes an age to print complex pdf things | 11:12 |
| popey | if i print a 10 page doc, it takes as long for each page, sometimes a minute | 11:12 |
| Dave2 | ...huh. Apparently you _can_ print to a dot matrix printer using CUPS, which means you could share one over the network. Learn something new every dya. | 11:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Dave2: Why not? | 11:14 |
| diplo | Dave2: We have probably 800+ dot matrixs with CUPS :/ | 11:14 |
| diplo | Over over customer base | 11:14 |
| Dave2 | I didn't expect CUPS and dot matrix support being relevant to have a huge overlap. | 11:14 |
| Dave2 | diplo: nice. | 11:14 |
| Dave2 | People still make printer paper? | 11:15 |
| aquarius | diplo, eight hundred printers. That's terrifying. | 11:15 |
| diplo | Moved mainly to printer servers now, and slowly getting them to spend money on laser printers | 11:15 |
| aquarius | I was going to ask where you got fanfold paper from these days too! | 11:15 |
| diplo | Paper is the easy part, the printers are extortionate and hard to get | 11:15 |
| MartijnVdS | aquarius: ebay ;) | 11:15 |
| ali12341 | TIL that rivers don't meander because the water on the outside of the bend travels faster than the water on the inside | 11:15 |
| ali12341 | it's actually because the outside bank does all the work of redirecting the centripetal force | 11:16 |
| MartijnVdS | ali12341: that's the effect, not the cause. | 11:16 |
| Myrtti | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/27/hello-ruby-kids-coding-book-kickstarter | 11:16 |
| Myrtti | \o/ | 11:16 |
| diplo | aquarius: we are a software/hardware company, we support the printers for 95% of our customers and they're skin flints when it comes to renewing hardward | 11:16 |
| diplo | Still have 1 customer running Redhat 7 | 11:16 |
| diplo | !! | 11:16 |
| ali12341 | MartijnVdS: it's not even true because of vortex flow, apparently | 11:16 |
| brobostigon | is it possible, to boot usb deviced using grub2, without bios usb boot support. ? | 11:16 |
| brobostigon | devices* | 11:16 |
| ali12341 | i was lied to in school, yet again | 11:16 |
| aquarius | diplo, well... dot matrix printers were, in my experience, considerably more reliable than newer inkjet/laser printers in terms of actually printing rather than pretending to print, not lying about how much ink they have left, etc. | 11:17 |
| aquarius | of course, they jammed and ate paper like it was going out of fashion, but you've gotta take the rough with the smooth. | 11:17 |
| diplo | I don't know, I'd take networked printers 100% over dot matrix now days from my experience | 11:18 |
| ali12341 | aquarius: that's because dot matrix printers accept one character at a time and print it immediately | 11:18 |
| bashrc | yes, I bet there are still companies out there using dot matrix printers and fanfold paper | 11:18 |
| aquarius | ali12341, yeah. | 11:19 |
| diplo | Much easier to maintain/fix/swap out | 11:19 |
| aquarius | I agree that it's easier to make it work when it's simpler. :) | 11:19 |
| MartijnVdS | aquarius: http://r.ebay.com/PBCQXX | 11:19 |
| aquarius | clearly the answer is.... a networked dot matrix printer! | 11:20 |
| aquarius | kickstarter! | 11:20 |
| MartijnVdS | aquarius: Raspberry Pi + serial dot matrix printer + some glue | 11:20 |
| ali12341 | i've got a MPS-802 in the loft | 11:20 |
| aquarius | actually I'm sure I've got a parallel jetdirect around here somewhere. | 11:21 |
| ali12341 | so old it's not even serial | 11:21 |
| diplo | jetdirect \o/ we have lots of those as well | 11:21 |
| bigcalm | Going back to git tags, looks like phing can do a lot for me anyway :) http://www.phing.info/docs/guide/stable/apcs23.html | 11:21 |
| diplo | Actually :( they're more of a PITA than dot matrix's | 11:21 |
| diplo | bigcalm: Get back off topic! | 11:22 |
| diplo | :P | 11:22 |
| bigcalm | Ha :P | 11:22 |
| bigcalm | Killed the convo. yay | 11:26 |
| ali12341 | a project builder written in PHP based on ant? are you completely insane?? | 11:27 |
| bigcalm | I love the hate PHP gets | 11:28 |
| ali12341 | i working on some php code right now | 11:28 |
| ali12341 | it's horrible | 11:28 |
| ali12341 | instead of functions, they wrote one function that takes a string param and has a huge switch inside it | 11:28 |
| diddledan | ali12341: ouch | 11:29 |
| bigcalm | I'm sure you could do that in pretty much any language | 11:29 |
| Dave2 | 11:20:22 < aquarius> clearly the answer is.... a networked dot matrix printer! | 11:29 |
| ali12341 | then instead of using functions like doSomethingWithAUsefulName() they call hugeFunction("123") | 11:29 |
| Dave2 | hey, that was what started me off on this, wondering how easy it'd be to share via CUPS. And apparently you can. | 11:29 |
| ali12341 | and literally all the params are just numeric codes | 11:29 |
| Dave2 | (It'll even print non-character data. Very slowly.) | 11:29 |
| popey | Laney: you run spotify on 14.04? crashy? | 11:30 |
| Laney | yes, no | 11:30 |
| ali12341 | bigcalm: but only a php developer would actually do it in production code | 11:30 |
| popey | hm | 11:30 |
| popey | Laney: when running do you have 2xspotify and 5xspotifyhelper processes? | 11:30 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831469/ | 11:31 |
| popey | thus | 11:31 |
| Laney | laney@iota> pgrep -fc SpotifyHelper ~ | 11:31 |
| Laney | 9 | 11:31 |
| popey | hm | 11:31 |
| popey | trying to figure out which process to attach to in gdb | 11:31 |
| bigcalm | popey: spotify works for me in 14.04 | 11:32 |
| ali12341 | this huge function controls all the SQL queries in the entire website, so anywhere else in the code you don't see getArticles() or whatever. you see query("123") | 11:32 |
| bigcalm | popey: not crashed any more than in 12.04 - 13.10 for me | 11:32 |
| ali12341 | to add insult to injury, every case works by getting the entire table and then selecting rows inside php code | 11:32 |
| ali12341 | and some page views call it multiple times | 11:32 |
| ali12341 | spotify is very crashy on 13.10 for me | 11:33 |
| Laney | it used to be like that for me, but then it got fixed | 11:34 |
| Laney | I'd see deadlock messages when running it from the terminal | 11:34 |
| Laney | forget if that was 13.10 or trusty | 11:34 |
| bigcalm | Some times spotify will take control of the whole system. I fix that by pressing alt and typing exit | 11:35 |
| bigcalm | But this has happened for me since I 1st used Spotify in Unity | 11:35 |
| ali12341 | the new flash plugin has developed a nasty bug where it deadlocks the GPU. there's no recovering from that :/ | 11:35 |
| bashrc | flash is the spawn of the devil | 11:36 |
| popey | Installed: 1:0.9.4.183.g644e24e.428-1 | 11:36 |
| popey | and thats the version of spotify you guys are on? | 11:36 |
| Laney | yup | 11:36 |
| * bigcalm gets his laptop | 11:37 | |
| * popey deletes .config/spotify and starts fresh | 11:37 | |
| bigcalm | 0.9.4.183.g644e24e0 | 11:38 |
| bigcalm | That's from Spotify's only Help -> About Spotify... | 11:39 |
| bigcalm | s/only/own | 11:41 |
| bigcalm | As much as I love my new laptop, I keep forgetting how heavy it is | 11:44 |
| bigcalm | Does anybody else get this: viewing a terminal with black background, lines of red and green text, brain wobbles as it keeps seeing the alternating colours in a 3d type way | 11:47 |
| bigcalm | I suck at describing things | 11:47 |
| popey | no | 11:47 |
| ali12341 | yes | 11:47 |
| ali12341 | there's a reason for that | 11:47 |
| ali12341 | it involves different wavelengths | 11:47 |
| bigcalm | Viewing git diffs it happens all the time | 11:48 |
| popey | oh i see | 11:49 |
| ali12341 | you could change the colours if it's really bad | 11:49 |
| popey | i thought you meant you saw lineds | 11:49 |
| popey | *lines | 11:49 |
| bigcalm | I could, it amuses me. I will if it ever stops me from reading :) | 11:49 |
| ali12341 | red/blue to make the effect "worse" | 11:50 |
| bigcalm | Nice | 11:50 |
| ali12341 | (because they are the most different wavelengths) | 11:50 |
| bigcalm | Of course, opposite ends of the visible light spectrum | 11:50 |
| ali12341 | apparently it's because of chromatic abberation, ie you can't quite focus on them both at the same time because of the different wavelengths | 11:51 |
| bigcalm | Green pops out while red sinks back | 11:51 |
| ali12341 | yeah. different focal length tricks your brain into thinking it is further away | 11:51 |
| ali12341 | presumably this would still happen even if you are colour blind | 11:52 |
| bigcalm | Coo, that's unexpected | 11:55 |
| foobarry | new dr who costume looks like barney stintsons magician dad | 11:56 |
| SuperMatt | hahaha | 11:56 |
| SuperMatt | I just don't think it's different enough from the last two, tbh | 11:56 |
| SuperMatt | different colours, to be sure, but it's still quite a stuffy look | 11:57 |
| SuperMatt | I liked 9's look | 11:57 |
| foobarry | they are going for jon pertwee look | 11:58 |
| === JGJones_ is now known as JGJones | ||
| === JGJones is now known as JGJones_ | ||
| popey | you know a whovian by the fact that they say "9" rather than the actor name | 11:59 |
| === JGJones_ is now known as JGJones | ||
| diddledan | lol | 12:00 |
| DJones | SuperMatt: 9... as in 7 of 9 ? Thats a different series :) | 12:01 |
| diddledan | where does the doctor that almost destroyed galifrey fit in the timeline? | 12:01 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: 8.5 | 12:01 |
| bigcalm | DJones: she was called 7 though | 12:01 |
| SuperMatt | popey: All right, I mean Christopher Ecclestone | 12:01 |
| SuperMatt | who I think is extremely underrated | 12:02 |
| diddledan | SuperMatt: no e | 12:02 |
| DJones | bigcalm: Good call, looking at too many numbers | 12:02 |
| SuperMatt | ah, I have been told | 12:02 |
| ali12341 | i'm with you on that one. eccleston is by far the best actor to play doctor who in colour | 12:06 |
| ali12341 | also as a northerner he's the closest they've ever got to casting a minority actor | 12:07 |
| MartijnVdS | ali12341: they have a Scot now | 12:08 |
| ali12341 | good point | 12:08 |
| ali12341 | i'm looking forward to the new series | 12:08 |
| MartijnVdS | ali12341: only 7 more months | 12:08 |
| shauno | 10 was a scot too? | 12:09 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: yes, but he hid it | 12:10 |
| bigcalm | Did he hide it when they went to Tourchwood in Scotland? | 12:10 |
| shauno | (and 9 was a northerner lol) | 12:11 |
| shauno | my biggest problem with capaldi's apparent costume, is that it means that I now have to find & reattach the bottom button on my jacket, less people think I'm aping him intentionally | 12:15 |
| SuperMatt | I've already noted that I have almost everything I need for a capaldi cosplay | 12:16 |
| SuperMatt | just need the jacket really | 12:16 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: just rob shauno | 12:20 |
| shauno | :| please don't. it's cold | 12:21 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: just robe shauno | 12:22 |
| shauno | spotted in the news this morning that dutch courts have struck down the IP block of TPB. rather impressive | 12:23 |
| shauno | seems to boil down to "the blocks obviously don't work, so we shouldn't force companies to bark up the wrong tree". | 12:28 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: yes :) \o/ | 12:33 |
| MartijnVdS | yay completely unfiltered internet again | 12:34 |
| brobostigon | anways, can grub2 boot off usb devices, without bios usb support? | 12:34 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: no, because the BIOS can't boot into grub2 if it can't read grub2 off the USB device in the first place | 12:35 |
| shauno | what if grub is on something it can boot? eg grub on the hdd where you'd expect it, but with an option to loop boot an iso off a thumbdrive? | 12:36 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: i see, ok. cant i just tell grub2 which is already on the hdd, and point it at the grub thats on the usb device? | 12:37 |
| MartijnVdS | Probably not, as grub doesn't have USB drivers | 12:37 |
| brobostigon | ok, | 12:37 |
| brobostigon | ohwell, | 12:38 |
| diddledan | has anyone played with openvz enough to find out what might cause a guest mysql server to be unable to access it's files? I've just had a website go down where mysql reported that the tables didn't exist yet all the files were visible on the filesystem | 12:38 |
| diddledan | I'm wondering if doing a live migration to a different server might cause it? | 12:39 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: shared memory, I think | 12:39 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: postgresql can't run in OVZ instances either | 12:39 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: ouch | 12:39 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: I'm not telling the client they bought a duff vps :-p | 12:39 |
| diddledan | (they organised it and told us to put their site on there without asking us whether it's a good idea or anything. just unilaterally decided to buy a server and impose it upon us) | 12:40 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: The Googles suggest it's an innodb+openvz thing | 12:41 |
| brobostigon | oh dear. | 12:41 |
| bigcalm | Can you check if two file names point to the same inode (hard links)? | 12:46 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: ls -i | 12:47 |
| shauno | I usually end up searching for them (assuming they're not in the same folder), find -samefile is your friend | 12:48 |
| diddledan | shauno: nie | 12:48 |
| diddledan | nice | 12:48 |
| bigcalm | Ta | 12:48 |
| shauno | (and -xdev to stop it bothering searching other filesystems, since that's not a possibility. so find /path -xdev -samefile /as/this/file ) | 12:50 |
| bigcalm | That does look handy | 12:51 |
| shauno | seems silly that that's not a default behaviour. find will happily wander across mounts where the hardlink can't possibly be | 12:51 |
| * popey just learned that we're going to backport 3.13 to precise. | 13:01 | |
| MartijnVdS | popey: as part of the LTS enablement stack? | 13:02 |
| popey | ya | 13:02 |
| MartijnVdS | sounds logical, 12.04 still has a few years of support left, even after 14.04 comes out | 13:02 |
| MartijnVdS | I can imagine people want to run the same version everywhere | 13:02 |
| MartijnVdS | and not a mix of 12.04 and 14.04 | 13:03 |
| popey | suspect 3.13 will be the last one | 13:03 |
| MartijnVdS | Yeah, with newer LTS enablement (14.10 etc.) going into 14.04 only | 13:03 |
| MartijnVdS | "time to wake up and smell the upgrade" ;) | 13:03 |
| popey | ☻ | 13:04 |
| MartijnVdS | also, 14.10 -- 10 years of Ubuntu | 13:04 |
| knightwise | morning | 13:04 |
| knightwise | 10 years ? has it been that long ? | 13:04 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: 4.10 was the very first, warty warthog :) | 13:04 |
| * knightwise thinks that is where he started too | 13:05 | |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: it's the one with the naked people backgrounds | 13:05 |
| knightwise | http://mobile.osnews.com/img/9097/ubuntu2.jpg | 13:05 |
| knightwise | Yep ! :) that was the one :) | 13:05 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| MartijnVdS | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AnSn_cSIfE | 13:07 |
| Myrtti | I dug up a 5.10 disk yesterday when I was doing my "emptying and clearing one mess at a time before moving" strategy | 13:07 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: I found a 6.06 disk this weekend. Didn't try it :( | 13:08 |
| Myrtti | I ordered a massive box of 5.10's for a school project | 13:08 |
| Dave2 | 6.06 the number of the ...drake | 13:11 |
| MartijnVdS | dapper! | 13:12 |
| popey | ignore anything davmor2 says now. | 13:12 |
| bigcalm | o.O | 13:12 |
| davmor2 | popey: is apparently fantastic | 13:12 |
| bigcalm | A swapping of machines I guess | 13:13 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: no he broke his beloved fs | 13:13 |
| Myrtti | filesystem? | 13:14 |
| Myrtti | OH NO | 13:14 |
| Myrtti | has BTRFS FINALLY DISAPPOINTED POPEY?!?!?! | 13:14 |
| Myrtti | STAY TUNED FOR BREAKING NEWS | 13:14 |
| davmor2 | no it's x | 13:14 |
| Myrtti | :-P | 13:14 |
| davmor2 | we just blamed btrfs cause we knew it upset popey | 13:15 |
| MartijnVdS | oh it's his memory leak? :) | 13:18 |
| bigcalm | Anybody here using an office 365 account in thunderbird and find it takes a long time for the smtp connection to be made when sending email? | 13:19 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: I have used it in the past, and yes it takes forever | 13:21 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: also imap disconnects randomly | 13:21 |
| popey | pffft | 13:22 |
| popey | for some strange reason compiz exploded then lightdm wouldn't start | 13:22 |
| popey | all find now | 13:22 |
| popey | -typos | 13:22 |
| bigcalm | popey: somebody has moved your keys around | 13:23 |
| popey | unfortunately davmor2 left his desk with his laptop locked, so i couldn't dick about with it | 13:23 |
| davmor2 | popey: yeah not that dumb :P | 13:24 |
| bigcalm | Something he never did at our work place days. I think you guys have some trust issues to work out | 13:24 |
| foobarry | why is it that some iphone users don't know how to upload a photo to facebook but they know how to upload a screenshot of a photo? is it that hard? | 13:31 |
| knightwise | No , taking a screenshot is too easy | 13:31 |
| foobarry | bigcalm: YES | 13:32 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: sure but don't they end up in the same place as photos? | 13:32 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: with the same "Share" button? | 13:33 |
| foobarry | sending a mail via smtp takes > 30 s | 13:33 |
| foobarry | i asked for onsite smtp realy but they didn't understand the words | 13:33 |
| bigcalm | foobarry: yes? | 13:33 |
| bigcalm | Ah, okay | 13:33 |
| foobarry | sucks harder than any mail system i ever saw | 13:33 |
| foobarry | imap is super slow too | 13:33 |
| bigcalm | At least it gave me the chance to cancel sending, alter the email and resend :) | 13:34 |
| foobarry | yeah | 13:34 |
| bigcalm | Not to be relied upon though | 13:34 |
| foobarry | the response from work is "thunderbird is not supported" | 13:34 |
| bigcalm | Right, lunch time! | 13:34 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: "Use outlook!" | 13:34 |
| foobarry | thats funny because it was supported before you introduced the problems | 13:34 |
| foobarry | MartijnVdS: they did say that | 13:36 |
| awilkins | Yick, yes | 13:36 |
| foobarry | i'd rather go without email than use outlook | 13:36 |
| awilkins | Alas, Outlook is the only sensible option for NHS mail | 13:36 |
| awilkins | IMAP is only available if you're inside the NHS network | 13:36 |
| awilkins | Because you dare not expose Exchange's IMAP implementation (or, actually, Exchange) to the naked internet | 13:37 |
| foobarry | MS do | 13:37 |
| awilkins | Sure it's not through an app proxy? | 13:37 |
| awilkins | We have Exchange available over the internet but it's via this other thing that's an XMLRPC proxy | 13:38 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: but they're the only ones who have people on their payroll who can look at the source and go "Ah, there's the problem" is something goes horribly wrong | 13:38 |
| popey | foobarry: yeah, I've wondered why people do that too | 13:38 |
| awilkins | They bought it from an Israeli security firm | 13:38 |
| popey | i think it's because people see a picture on facebook and can't figure out how to save it | 13:38 |
| popey | not that they can't figure out how to share | 13:38 |
| foobarry | its a photo they took | 13:38 |
| popey | sharing is easy, saving content from facebook is harder | 13:38 |
| popey | oh, thats even more demented | 13:39 |
| foobarry | but maybe they shared on another fb page first | 13:39 |
| popey | yeah | 13:39 |
| awilkins | Lots of pages intentionally take steps to stop you saving images now | 13:39 |
| popey | I'm actually susprised they know how to screenshot | 13:39 |
| popey | s/page/app/ | 13:39 |
| awilkins | (easy to default with "Inspect Element" but still... beyond the muggles) | 13:39 |
| === roht is now known as wadzi | ||
| popey | on a phone | 13:39 |
| popey | "Inspect element"? | 13:39 |
| awilkins | Ok, not on a phone | 13:40 |
| popey | you have press, and long press | 13:40 |
| foobarry | regret eating that pasty now | 13:41 |
| foobarry | how do i delete a twitter account? | 13:53 |
| === stuphi_ is now known as stuphi | ||
| popey | hit the cog and choose settings iirc | 13:54 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/settings/accounts/confirm_deactivation | 13:54 |
| foobarry | ah | 13:55 |
| popey | at the bottom | 13:55 |
| foobarry | deactivate..in small letters | 13:55 |
| foobarry | ta | 13:55 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| foobarry | https://twitter.com/Ubuntu_Borat | 14:02 |
| foobarry | i notice chrome now has "do not track" option, so i don't need the do not track extension...or do I? | 14:03 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/Ubuntu_Borat is @bkerensa I believe | 14:07 |
| foobarry | pretty lame | 14:08 |
| foobarry | thoguht it was funny till i read it. | 14:08 |
| foobarry | i like devops borat thoguh | 14:08 |
| foobarry | so are canonical going to complain about MS "onedrive" name? | 14:09 |
| popey | why would we? | 14:11 |
| foobarry | because it causes confusion | 14:11 |
| foobarry | over a similarly named product | 14:12 |
| popey | just got a text from my mother in law "I am just on my way over with some cat food. Are you dressed?" | 14:12 |
| popey | i replied "I should hope so, I am in London." | 14:12 |
| popey | I would imagine google would be more interested with it having "Drive" in the name | 14:13 |
| * popey shrugs | 14:13 | |
| MartijnVdS | Microsoft cloud:\ ? | 14:23 |
| dwatkins | Such a simple name, why didn't they think of it? | 14:23 |
| MartijnVdS | cloud:\>_ | 14:23 |
| dwatkins | quick, copyright it... | 14:23 |
| dwatkins | cloud: | 14:23 |
| dwatkins | dir | 14:23 |
| awilkins | cloud:\ looks kinda dubious about the value of itself | 14:34 |
| awilkins | Sort of like Cloud --- hmmmm :\ -- not sure I want to trust my files to MS | 14:34 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: so.. perfect really ;) | 14:37 |
| awilkins | Poetically accurate branding | 14:39 |
| dwatkins | Cloud:\> therefore suggests it's poking its tongue out up and to the side? | 14:55 |
| bigcalm | I broke Jenkins :D | 14:56 |
| bigcalm | Boss got emailed and I didn't | 14:56 |
| bigcalm | Most amusing | 14:56 |
| dwatkins | I signed-up for Bitcasa before their prices went up, it would have been nice to get infinite storage with a linux fs module as well, but I gather they're only providing that to their higher paying customers. | 14:57 |
| foobarry | nimbus is a nice name for a cloud service | 15:02 |
| foobarry | or fluffy | 15:02 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: you've been reading too much Harry Potter | 15:03 |
| foobarry | never! | 15:03 |
| foobarry | i've never seen or watched it | 15:03 |
| MartijnVdS | read then? | 15:14 |
| foobarry | nope | 15:15 |
| foobarry | they're kids books i think | 15:15 |
| MartijnVdS | the first few are sort-of, but he grows up quickly | 15:24 |
| Myrtti | eh. http://vimeo.com/84960395 | 15:28 |
| Myrtti | a bit... overboard. | 15:29 |
| dwatkins | someone's been watching too much Game of Thrones, methinks. | 15:37 |
| diddledan | Myrtti: I am at a loss for words | 15:43 |
| Myrtti | so am I | 15:43 |
| foobarry | another thing i haven't read/seen | 15:53 |
| foobarry | lots of rumpy pumpy with dwarves from what i hear | 15:53 |
| SuperMatt | o.O | 15:53 |
| bigcalm | Sounds like fun | 15:54 |
| SuperMatt | ah, when you said dwarves, I imagined the embeardened miners | 15:55 |
| bigcalm | Is it not? | 15:55 |
| foobarry | dunno. short people | 15:56 |
| Dave2 | short people :( | 15:56 |
| SuperMatt | shhh | 15:57 |
| SuperMatt | stop mocking short people! | 15:57 |
| marxjohnson | there's a lot more rumpy-pumpy in the tv series than the books | 15:59 |
| marxjohnson | same amount of dwarves though | 15:59 |
| bigcalm | Dave2: at a Depeche Mode gig last night. Had this feeling that I'd seen the guy on the left somewhere before: http://nme.assets.ipccdn.co.uk/images/gallery/2012DepecheModePR200212.jpg | 16:00 |
| popey | nah | 16:01 |
| popey | too tall | 16:01 |
| foobarry | i bought violator the other day | 16:01 |
| foobarry | sounds a bit dated now | 16:01 |
| foobarry | used to have it on tape as a kid | 16:01 |
| bigcalm | The gig was great, what I saw of it any way | 16:02 |
| popey | i used to work in Martins newsagents when 101 came out, used to play it when i was on the record counter | 16:02 |
| SuperMatt | I would say violator has stood the test of time | 16:03 |
| SuperMatt | compared to a lot of music of the time | 16:03 |
| SuperMatt | I listen to it quite a lot | 16:03 |
| bigcalm | Not so much fun when people who pay for a seated ticket spend the whole gig standing up | 16:03 |
| foobarry | enjoy the silence is epic | 16:03 |
| foobarry | so is the nada surf cover | 16:03 |
| bigcalm | https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/427892672255512577/photo/1 | 16:05 |
| bigcalm | To this: https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/427910428086501377/photo/1 | 16:05 |
| MartijnVdS | darkest blackness of space? | 16:06 |
| bigcalm | My view of the stage :( | 16:06 |
| SuperMatt | ouch | 16:06 |
| bigcalm | They sounded great though :D | 16:07 |
| foobarry | feb 14th booked as holiday \o/ | 16:07 |
| foobarry | will take son out for the day as a valentine gift..giving her time to herself | 16:07 |
| popey | taking me out somewhere nice? | 16:07 |
| popey | oh | 16:07 |
| popey | I am disappoint, son. | 16:07 |
| foobarry | you can meet me there tohugh popey... | 16:07 |
| foobarry | we're going to the RAF museum at hendon | 16:08 |
| foobarry | epic day out | 16:08 |
| bigcalm | Thanks for reminding me that I need to book a table for 14th Feb | 16:08 |
| foobarry | i realise i should be spending time with the missis but at this stage of life, a rest is the best gift | 16:11 |
| diddledan | what's the diff between dwarves and dwarfs? | 16:12 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diddledan | I need a missus first | 16:13 |
| foobarry | the massive building dwarfs the neighbourhood | 16:13 |
| foobarry | snow white and the 7 dwarves | 16:13 |
| foobarry | i may be wrong, i didn't google | 16:13 |
| diddledan | the dwarf dwarves dwarfed the pygmy? | 16:14 |
| foobarry | midgets have feelings too | 16:14 |
| * diddledan eyes shauno | 16:14 | |
| bigcalm | Heh | 16:15 |
| foobarry | how should I disable network manager doing stuff on a centos server install? | 16:18 |
| diddledan | foobarry: does chkconfig network-manager off not work? | 16:22 |
| foobarry | it does, but no device appaers in system-config-network strangely | 16:23 |
| diddledan | and then running service network-manager stop, of course | 16:23 |
| foobarry | will go the /etc/sysconfig route, ta | 16:23 |
| diddledan | doesn't system-config-network use the network-manager framework now? | 16:24 |
| diddledan | welcome to #centos | 16:24 |
| diddledan | :-p | 16:24 |
| diddledan | !related | 16:24 |
| diddledan | aww, that one doesn't exist | 16:24 |
| diddledan | in #wordpress it says "just because you're using WordPress doesn't mean your question is related" | 16:25 |
| diddledan | or similar | 16:25 |
| diddledan | it's annoying the two bots are very similar but differ in ways that make me head-desk every time I try to use one of them | 16:26 |
| diddledan | lubotu3: !command; doc-bot: .command; lubotu3: !command | redirection; doc-bot .command > redirection | 16:27 |
| lubotu3 | diddledan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 16:27 |
| diddledan | shaddup lubotu3 , I wasn't talking to you | 16:27 |
| foobarry | aww poor bot | 16:27 |
| diddledan | it's a bot. until it develops emotions I'm not going to worry about humanity | 16:28 |
| diddledan | although, if she's as sexy as six then I might have to speed up the emotion program design | 16:30 |
| foobarry | USERCTL=no in ifcdfg-eth0 file? | 16:30 |
| diddledan | o_O | 16:30 |
| diddledan | I believe that's for use with ifup and ifdown | 16:31 |
| diddledan | allows ordinary users the ability to bring the network up and down without root privs | 16:31 |
| foobarry | ah, cheers | 16:33 |
| foobarry | new settig for me | 16:33 |
| diplo | Centos channel is awful, find the people in there quite confrontational, only ask if I'm really stuck :) | 16:36 |
| foobarry | that imac on a train picture, was that actually running ubuntu? | 16:36 |
| foobarry | looks like software centre | 16:36 |
| shauno | I saw depeche mode last year .. being at the front wasn't actually a good thing. that's when you realised you were watching a middle-aged man make love to a microphone stand. | 16:47 |
| foobarry | in tight leathers? | 16:47 |
| dwatkins | how would you get power for an iMac on a train? | 16:48 |
| shauno | from the wall sockets? | 16:49 |
| JGJones | Don't think the wall sockets give enough juice for that? Although an iMac doesn't use much power mind you, on par with a laptop (since most of internals of an iMac is mobile chips etc) | 16:50 |
| shauno | ours have regular mains-level outlets | 16:51 |
| shauno | wherever you see this sign :) http://www.irishrail.ie/media/Symbols_wifi_sockets_150x100px1.png | 16:55 |
| foobarry | but was it ubuntu? | 16:55 |
| shauno | I didn't see the picture | 16:56 |
| popey | many trains over here have power too | 16:57 |
| foobarry | https://twitter.com/MacworldUK/status/426713513630138368/photo/1 | 16:58 |
| shauno | most diesel locos use the diesel to run a generator and then have electric powertrains, so they tend have more than enough juice to share | 16:58 |
| foobarry | my commuter train has power sockets for cleaners | 16:59 |
| bigcalm | I caved in and ordered the managed switch with wifi | 17:02 |
| diddledan | I think that's been photoshopped | 17:05 |
| Laney | can you tell by the pixels | 17:05 |
| diddledan | definitely the pixels | 17:05 |
| directhex | well, it takes experience to spot a shop | 17:19 |
| directhex | have you seen many shops in your time? | 17:19 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| popey | http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=f4fa24807d1dab87af8f1f0c0d9ad524bd5bf51c.47309 | 18:19 |
| popey | says no | 18:19 |
| mapps | argh | 18:44 |
| === LjL-Milan is now known as LjL | ||
| daubers | Evening | 19:26 |
| diddledan | ello | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 19:31 |
| brobostigon | evening | 19:32 |
| foobarry | evenings | 19:42 |
| * foobarry is reinstalling wifeysphone to see if that fixes the problem | 19:43 | |
| foobarry | otherwise...new phone :( | 19:43 |
| Myrtti | I've dabbled with rewriterules | 19:44 |
| Myrtti | result: http://myrtti.fi/tip-jar goes to my freenode tip jar. | 19:44 |
| Myrtti | ;-) | 19:44 |
| Myrtti | (and yes, if you click the link you know why I'm actually not ashamed at all to tell you this) | 19:45 |
| Myrtti | but I'm also not going to spam it more | 19:45 |
| diddledan | Myrtti: spam away - it's a good cause | 19:50 |
| diddledan | plus who doesn't like spam with their egg n chips?! | 19:51 |
| Myrtti | hm, new Humble Bundle | 20:01 |
| Myrtti | quite surprised they donate to EFF and not, say, PEN International on that one | 20:02 |
| MartijnVdS | ooh wow, first time I've seen that: | 20:13 |
| MartijnVdS | [1405908.645054] microcode: CPU0 updated to revision 0x17, date = 2013-08-16 | 20:13 |
| MartijnVdS | (etc, for CPU0-7) | 20:13 |
| diddledan | o_O | 20:16 |
| diddledan | your system has been online for some time | 20:17 |
| diddledan | 1405908 seconds is..... *calculator*17.2720833333... days | 20:18 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: 16 days | 20:18 |
| diddledan | sorry mistope | 20:18 |
| diddledan | 16** | 20:18 |
| Azelphur | Hey folks, anyone bored and mind telling me about the control characters in a terminal? I'm trying to capture the output from a process, and write what would be visible into a text file | 20:22 |
| ali12341 | i know a lot about that stuff | 20:23 |
| ali12341 | too much really | 20:23 |
| Azelphur | oO | 20:23 |
| Azelphur | ali12341: so for example, I'd want to have one "frame" of top always written into a text file, that's the goal | 20:23 |
| Azelphur | I can capture the raw output, with all the control codes and such | 20:23 |
| ali12341 | well there's no such thing as "frames" | 20:23 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: man script | 20:23 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: interesting, that might do it, haha | 20:24 |
| ali12341 | why do you actually want this? | 20:24 |
| ali12341 | pu top on a webpage or something? | 20:24 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: script -t timings outputfile | 20:24 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: then replay using "scriptreplay timings outputfile" | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | ali12341: spot on, I'm being stupid and feel like dumping the output of cgminer to a minecraft computer. | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: yea, that doesn't sound like what I want | 20:25 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: it's like recordmydesktop for terminals :) | 20:25 |
| ali12341 | right and you're using computercraft? | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | ali12341: yup | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | fun fun \o/ | 20:25 |
| ali12341 | whch can only fetch web pages basically | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | yup | 20:25 |
| ali12341 | what you really want is ssh implemented in lua | 20:26 |
| ali12341 | i put some thought into how to make cmputercraft more interesting | 20:26 |
| Azelphur | haha | 20:26 |
| ali12341 | the most interesting way would be to connect it up to user mode linux instances instead of lua vm | 20:27 |
| ali12341 | and then put the redstone hardware into /dev/ | 20:27 |
| ali12341 | anyway, back on to the question | 20:27 |
| Azelphur | xD | 20:28 |
| ali12341 | you might be able to do this with screen | 20:28 |
| Azelphur | I was wondering if I could do something like that with it | 20:28 |
| ali12341 | you can do it interactive with C-a h | 20:30 |
| ali12341 | "write a hardcopy of current screen contents" | 20:30 |
| Azelphur | oh hey, that'll work | 20:30 |
| shauno | if you name your screen sessions, you can do it non-interactive too | 20:30 |
| Azelphur | you can stuff commands into screen | 20:30 |
| Myrtti | ps has some sorting options | 20:31 |
| Myrtti | and formats and columns | 20:32 |
| ali12341 | yeah but *really* he doesn't care about top at all, just wants to monitor some other program that happens to have a UI a bit like top | 20:32 |
| Azelphur | ^ | 20:32 |
| Azelphur | ali12341: has it down ;) | 20:32 |
| Myrtti | well, ok. | 20:33 |
| Myrtti | *sniff* | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | you could run it on a vt and dump /dev/vcs<num> ;) | 20:35 |
| shauno | don't you get a whole lot of noise that way? | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | every other character is a colour code(ish) | 20:38 |
| shauno | :hardcopy filename is nice because it's basically printscreen; it kicks out clean ascii. if you dump it straight from the term you get all the ansi stuff they use to move the cursor etc | 20:39 |
| ali12341 | screen -X hardcopy foo.txt | 20:40 |
| ali12341 | this works if you only have one screen with one window | 20:40 |
| ali12341 | it is a little bit strange with cgminer though, it only outputs the top part of the display | 20:40 |
| Azelphur | ali12341: yea I already found it | 20:40 |
| Azelphur | and it works for me | 20:40 |
| foobarry | so the tube didn't stop at my station tonight, and hence took me into zone1, so my jounrye cost £5 extra :( | 20:47 |
| Azelphur | ali12341: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Jan/2014-01-28_20.51.50.png that was fun \o/ | 20:52 |
| mapps | months till ibiza | 20:54 |
| mapps | *5 | 20:54 |
| ali12341 | C [libc.so.6+0x7d71a] _obstack_memory_used+0x49a <- does anyone know what it means when java does this? | 20:58 |
| mapps | nope | 20:58 |
| mapps | ;( | 20:58 |
| shauno | Azelphur: witchcraft? | 21:03 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 21:03 |
| Azelphur | ali12341: hilarious idea, HTTP Post, screen -X stuff, screen -X hardcopy | 21:04 |
| Azelphur | you now have computercraft SSH, in the ugliest most laggy way ever. | 21:04 |
| shauno | I can't keep track of all the server forks anymore. seems bukkit isn't "in" anymore? | 21:11 |
| diddledan | wtf @ screenie | 21:13 |
| diddledan | cwazay | 21:13 |
| diddledan | he not nuts, he cwazay | 21:13 |
| Azelcraft | Hi folks! | 21:18 |
| Azelphur | diddledan: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Jan/2014-01-28_21.19.09.png xD | 21:19 |
| MartijnVdS | ಠ_ಠ | 21:20 |
| Azelphur | this is the most hilariously pointless thing ever. | 21:21 |
| diddledan | you've completely lost the plot? | 21:21 |
| Azelphur | pretty much | 21:21 |
| Myrtti | you are mad as a hatter | 21:29 |
| Azelphur | I think I'm taking this too far, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Jan/2014-01-28_21.24.29.png | 21:30 |
| Azelphur | minecraftception :P | 21:30 |
| Myrtti | you are mad. | 21:30 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 21:31 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: have you read Snow Crash? | 21:33 |
| MartijnVdS | you should. :) | 21:34 |
| Azelphur | nope hehe | 21:34 |
| neuro | there's only four things we do better than anyone else | 21:35 |
| neuro | music | 21:35 |
| neuro | movies | 21:35 |
| neuro | microcode (software) | 21:35 |
| neuro | high-speed pizza delivery | 21:35 |
| MartijnVdS | neuro: that one, yes :) | 21:38 |
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| Azelphur | Myrtti / diddledan I implemented buffering and some other optimisations, upped the framerate | 22:31 |
| Azelphur | I'm watching that telnet star wars now | 22:32 |
| Azelphur | xD | 22:32 |
| diddledan | aciimation ftw? | 22:38 |
| diddledan | ascii** | 22:38 |
| Azelphur | indeed :) | 22:39 |
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