/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/28/#ubuntu.txt

sudormrf	funky, I looked at rackspace, but they want a minimum of 5 accounts.	00:00
sudormrf	so $10/month.	00:00
funky	well buy 5	00:00
sudormrf	:P	00:00
funky	they are solid	00:00
sudormrf	I know they have crazy uptime.	00:00
funky	yep	00:00
sudormrf	am just shopping around for other options.	00:00
ff29	anyone able to help me out http://askubuntu.com/questions/411826/error-installing-amd-graphics-driver-in-13-10	00:00
sudonoob	TJ: /var/log/Xorg.0.log permissoin denied	00:01
sudormrf	at 10/month iCloud ends up being a bit cheaper, with a gotcha.	00:01
sudormrf	iCloud 50GB plan = $100/year = $8.33/month	00:01
sudormrf	granted, that isn't my own domain.	00:01
TJ-	sudonoob: "sudo pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"	00:01
luca	"Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"	00:01
sudormrf	luca, sounds like the version of linux you are trying to install won't work with your CPU	00:02
funky	hehe	00:02
sudormrf	luca, meaning, your CPU may not support 64bit architecture but you are trying to install a 64 bit OS	00:02
funky	anyone? how I can find mass replace string in files?	00:02
jhutchins	sudormrf: gmail is pretty much the best game around.	00:02
luca	sudormrf, yes I was running it on virtualbox. It is Xubuntu 13.10. Maybe the proble, is PAE flag	00:02
sudonooobb	TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829234/	00:03
TJ-	funky: "man sed"	00:03
Bashing-om	sudonoob: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log \| pastebinit <- should workie.	00:03
Jeruvy	funky sed/awk are worth investigating.	00:03
jhutchins	sudormrf: Some of the domain registrars will include or sell you email services as well. That takes care of the address change.	00:03
funky	which one is easier?	00:03
sudormrf	jhutchins, I would prefer not to have all of my emails scanned so they can target ads.	00:03
Stonegate	Hi Everyone	00:03
sudormrf	luca, depends on your vbox settings and your host computer.	00:03
jhutchins	funky: For one-off jobs vi works well.	00:03
sudormrf	jhutchins, I saw that, but I wasn't sure how reliable they are.	00:04
funky	nice joles	00:04
funky	jokeds	00:04
sudonoob	Bashing-om: link above mate :)	00:04
funky	I simply download to win them and use N++	00:04
funky	easier	00:04
Stonegate	i have a small problem.. i just updated my kernel on a box and now it cant start the ETH0 network device anymore.. can anyone assist me to get the box online again ? i think it might be something udev or kernel related but i cannot find out what it is.	00:04
funky	is there just simple command to do it?	00:04
luca	sudormr, really? doesn't depend on my CPU??	00:04
funky	like grep is to find string	00:04
funky	but to replace it after?	00:04
sudormrf	luca, it does, thats why I said your vbox settings AND your host	00:05
luc_	anyone knows the on demand service?	00:05
funky	for what?	00:05
funky	luc	00:05
Bashing-om	sudonoob: roget that, looking too.	00:05
luc_	how can config it?	00:05
funky	sed -i 's/old-word/new-word/g' *.txt	00:05
luc_	<funky> cpu scaling	00:05
funky	luc aws	00:05
funky	is very very nice	00:05
luca	sudormrf, they suggest me to install Xubuntu 12.04 always on my virtualbox	00:06
luc_	<funky> aws? what is it?	00:06
funky	sed -i 's/old-word/new-word/g' *.txt will that do resursive replacement?	00:06
funky	amazon cloud	00:06
funky	so nice	00:06
sudormrf	luca, I don't know who "they" are. You need to know about your host. does it have a CPU that can support 64 architecture? is it an ARM CPU? etc. start there. once you know that you should be able to figure out which CD to download to get your VM setup.	00:07
luc_	<funky> do you know onDemand service?? is about cpu scaling...	00:07
TJ-	sudonoob: "DISPLAY=:0.0 glxinfo \| pastebinit"	00:07
bob876	TJ: I'll try reproducing the issue with the nvidia binary.	00:07
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TJ-	bob876: OK, good luck, MCEs are hard to track down	00:07
luca	sudormrf, how can I find this information?	00:07
sudormrf	what OS is your host?	00:08
sudormrf	luca, what OS is your host running?	00:08
funky	luc yes use AWS	00:08
luc_	<funky> i need a config tutorial	00:08
funky	u can scale it so much	00:08
funky	luc for what?	00:08
luca	sudormrf, Ubuntu 11.10	00:08
funky	config what?	00:08
funky	just go to aws and its easy to scale anything	00:08
Stonegate	can anyone help me with my box missing its ETH0 Device after Kernel Upgrade ?	00:08
sudonooobb	The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils	00:09
luc_	<funky> a service running on my ubuntu, called onDemando	00:09
luc_	<funky> onDemand	00:09
sudormrf	luca, look for something called "details" or "system details" to see it graphically. more /proc/cpuinfo from CLI.	00:10
K`zan	Hi folks, Got a problem with having 4 sound devices, seems that various things use different ones. I have PulseAudio, HDA ATI SB, USB Device 0x46d: 0x81d and HDA Nvidia. lsusb shows nothing with the USB device ID. What do I do to narrow it down to one only (I think I want just the PulseAudio, even if its mixer has very few options?)	00:11
K`zan	Correction, I think the one I want is HDA ATI SB...	00:12
nevyn	K`zan: no you want pulseaudio	00:13
luca	sudormrf, it's a CPU 1,50 GHz	00:14
K`zan	nevyn: Only one control listed on that, capture for input and master for output. Lots more inputs and outputs on the back of the box?!?	00:15
jhutchins	luca: That tells us almost nothing.	00:15
jhutchins	luca: Intel? Amd? Arm? 32b? 64b?	00:15
K`zan	nevyn: Also, it seems that different programs use different device, turn off all sound and I still get various things making noise.	00:16
nevyn	so those apps are misconfigured.	00:16
luca	jhutchins, Intel	00:16
K`zan	nevyn: If so they are not configurable, apparently they take whatever they find ?first?	00:17
nevyn	K`zan: apps should always talk to pulse using libpulse or the alsa pulse pcm if they don't need/want direct pulse graph awareness	00:17
luca	jhutchins, address sizes: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual	00:17
nevyn	K`zan: which app are you speaking of?	00:18
K`zan	nevyn: I'm about to disable the MB audio and put in an old SB card.	00:18
Bashing-om	sudormrf: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils <- do it.	00:18
nevyn	so if you turn off all sound? what still makes noise?	00:18
nevyn	K`zan: have you messed with alsa control files?	00:18
Bashing-om	sudormrf: Soory apologize	00:19
K`zan	nevyn: Some of the KDE4 apps still make noise (no option to disable sound in the app). Some of the add-ins for X-Plane also override the "all sound off too".	00:19
K`zan	nevyn: No Sir, stock out of the box 12.04 and TDE	00:19
Bashing-om	sudonooobb: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils <- do it.	00:20
nevyn	when you say all sound off how are you setting that?	00:20
sudonoob	Bashing-om: installed the mesa-tuls and when i run the /var/log I get access denied	00:20
K`zan	nevyn: Control panel. Start-> system settings -> notifications and sound system.	00:21
nevyn	hrm	00:22
nevyn	do you have a volume control widget?	00:22
TJ-	sudonoob: "DISPLAY=:0.0 glxinfo \| pastebinit"	00:22
K`zan	nevyn: Sound system unchecked and all greyed out. Notifications, quick controls, turn off all sounds.	00:23
Stonegate	Hey guys! i have a small problem.. i just updated my kernel on a box and now it cant start the ETH0 network device anymore.. it says: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth0	00:23
sudonooobb	TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829303/	00:23
K`zan	nevyn: Yes, kmix with 4 sound devices to choose from, mixer defaults to PulseAudio.	00:23
gustavo	how to run command linux in computer remote ?	00:24
genii	gustavo: You mean ssh?	00:25
K`zan	nevyn: PulseAudio gives me no control over anything but Master output and Capture input. The HDA ATI SB seems to have all the various inputs and outputs.	00:25
TJ-	sudonoob: I was expecting to see more, maybe we need a slightly different command: "glxinfo \| pastebinit"	00:25
genii	gustavo: Like, you want to type in commands at a remote computer from the computer you are at right now?	00:25
nevyn	K`zan: life is slithely more naunced than that.	00:25
sudormrf	luca, that doesn't answer the question. pastebin it. http://paste.ubuntu.com	00:26
sudormrf	luca, pastebin the output of the command	00:26
sudonooobb	TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829314/	00:26
nevyn	K`zan: What are you trying to do exactly?	00:26
TJ-	sudonoob: Bashing-om: To me, that output looks like its missing significant bits, which suggests no OpenGL driver, but I don't have Intel hardware available to test against right now	00:27
sudonooobb	TJ: I also set Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig	00:27
sh0t	ragazzi come faccio a disabilitare una certa interfaccia di rete? Vorrei che al boot non venga attivata.	00:28
K`zan	nevyn: :-), yes it is, trying to get control over sound, rather than it being (apparently?!?) scattered over various devices (I assume that is what is going on, google was no help at all. And yes, I am surely confused. The old SB Live card in the drawer is looking better and better :-).	00:28
gustavo	genii, Yes	00:28
nevyn	adding more sound devices will make this worse not better.	00:28
sasha\|	O hai, I have an issue with my keyboard and trackpad	00:29
sasha\|	After booting, the keyboard responds very poorly, and the trackpad doesn't wor	00:29
nevyn	configuring pulseaudio correctly will let you do what you want and flexibly move things between devices if required.	00:29
nevyn	K`zan: ^^	00:29
sasha\|	*work. To fix this, I have to manualy disable and enable them through a script. I'd like to find out why this is happening and fix it in the future.	00:29
K`zan	nevyn: I can disable onboard sound in BIOS, that is what lead me to think about the SB card after frustrating hours of googling :-).	00:29
sasha\|	Here's a video that shows what happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXd8AWiXLdw	00:29
genii	gustavo: Yes, so then the usual tool in Linux is ssh. The machine you want to reach runs the ssh server part, and then you use the ssh client part to connect to it, either by it's IP or by it's domain-name	00:29
sh0t	magari basta un ifconfig down in qualche script iniziale?	00:29
sh0t	o sorry this is in english ahah :)	00:30
nevyn	K`zan: it really won't help your problem	00:30
K`zan	nevyn: Lemme google setting up pulseaudio and see if I can work it out from that. Thanks for cutting down on my confusion with all the devices :).	00:30
nevyn	K`zan: assuming you want normal things (skype/voip/mumble audio in a headset and ring on speakers etc) pa is the way to go	00:31
sh0t	Guys oh can I disable a net interface? I don't want it to be enabled at the boot. Is there a more elegant solution than an ifconfig down in an initial script?	00:31
nevyn	K`zan: it is very very powerful.	00:31
sh0t	*how	00:31
K`zan	nevyn: Good, my roomie also has the same problem, can't get mic input to work for Skype, been pulling my hair out with that one too...	00:31
fishcooker	is it possible to configure wlan0 automatically dhcp	00:32
fishcooker	?	00:32
K`zan	nevyn: Thanks so much!!!!! Hopefully I can find the answer on how to do that :-).	00:32
nevyn	so linux audio needs a good blog post I've been meaning to write for some time.	00:32
nevyn	but the layers are something likethis:	00:32
fishcooker	i've followed this http://prupert.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/how-to-configure-wireless-wifi-networking-in-ubuntu-via-the-command-line-cli/	00:32
K`zan	nevyn: It would certainly help, sound has always been problematical / confusing. Worse now with the myriad of sources on the newer MBs.	00:33
nevyn	K`zan: the first thing to understand is that alsa. means about 4 things.	00:33
gustavo	genial, genial, I'm giving support to an user noob in Linux. It not know run commands linux. I need run the commands linux for him through remote.	00:33
fishcooker	but no luck.. is it problem when i set wpa-proto to RSN rather than WPA	00:33
nevyn	Drivers, the userspace library and the api interface for talking to a pcm.	00:33
K`zan	nevyn: ALSA and PA? Uhhh, arghhhhh :)	00:33
nevyn	so PA is really a missing component of ALSA	00:34
nevyn	it replaces (mostly) the userspace library with something much more capable.	00:34
TJ-	sh0t: Yes, simply set it to "manual" in "/etc/network/interfaces" or, if it is managed by Network-Manager, disable the auto-connect option	00:34
nevyn	and provides a pcm for apps to talk to which get's audio intopulse from apps that don't know about it.	00:35
nevyn	so. Apps do not need to know about pulse to use it. if your alsa is configured correctly (default.!pcm = pulse)	00:35
K`zan	nevyn: Does that mean that I need to install ALSA packages (alsa-base, alsa utils)?	00:35
Jordan_U	gustavo: What is your native language? You may find it easier to get support in one of the Ubuntu IRC channels in your language.	00:36
nevyn	no.	00:36
ezrhino	hello. I see my video driver is now something called nvidia_331. is this downgraded?	00:36
markovirc_	Hello ezrhino	00:36
nevyn	alsa-base is the alsa userspace libraries.	00:36
sh0t	TJ-, it is managed by Netork Manager by i don't want that so i just add manual to /etc/network/interfaces and networkmanager should ignore it right?	00:36
K`zan	nevyn: No alsa modules loaded (lsmod \| grep alsa)	00:36
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ezrhino	what is Nvidia_331.20? Is it new?	00:37
nevyn	K`zan: rubbish	00:37
nevyn	lsmod\|grep snd	00:37
Guest76766	I have a problem with skype on ubuntu 10.04, when i try to join with a microsoft account it dosnt work when i click that option	00:38
sh0t	let's see thanks guys	00:38
K`zan	nevyn: Thanks, gives me about 20 modules	00:38
nevyn	so those are the Drivers.	00:39
K`zan	nevyn: but nothing to do with alsa	00:39
nevyn	theyre now maintained mostly in kernel using kernel processes.	00:39
nevyn	they're the alsa drivers	00:39
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nevyn	as opposed to the oss drivers.	00:39
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K`zan	nevyn: Thanks, but it just adds to the confusion, nothing for pulseaudio either.	00:40
nevyn	pulseaudio has no kernel componetns	00:40
miguelangello	I have a problem with skype on ubuntu 10.04, when i try to join with a microsoft account it dosnt work, when i click that option skype ask me again for a skype user and dosnt ask for a microsoft account somebody could help me?	00:41
K`zan	nevyn: OK, do I need to blacklist or is it a matter of configuration files?	00:41
nevyn	K`zan: stop.	00:41
K`zan	nevyn: Easily done Sir :-)	00:41
nevyn	K`zan: if you can hear sound at all.. do not mess with the kernel configuration.	00:42
K`zan	nevyn: Got audiom so OK, good to know. Confusing but good to know. LOTS of stuff there...	00:42
nevyn	if you want to get into specifics of your configuration I'll need a snapshot of what it looks like.	00:42
luca	sudormrf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829379/	00:42
Bashing-om	miguelangello: A server installation ?	00:43
nevyn	at a terminal run wget http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh then run it.	00:43
JayF	What package creates the "netdev" group in ubuntu server?	00:43
K`zan	nevyn: got it, running now.	00:43
miguelangello	Bashing-om, what do you mean, excuse me im new on ubuntu	00:44
hitsujiTMO	miguelangello: he means 10.04 desktop is no longer supported	00:44
black_angel	hey, guys, i've installed nvidia_331 driver, but it always display: This driver is activated but not currently in use.	00:44
markovirc_	Hello black_angel	00:44
K`zan	nevyn: send it to alsa-project.org or pastebin it somewhere?	00:45
miguelangello	hitsujiTMO, i have that version because i hava an old laptop, do you recommend me to upgrade?	00:45
Bashing-om	miguelangello: UHMMM, i this is a server, maybe, if it is a desktop; well, 10.04 reached End Of Life last year, and is no longer supported. Ya need to upgrade to a current version.	00:46
hitsujiTMO	miguelangello: yes, you should upgrade to 12.04	00:46
black_angel	And I've tried to using 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' command and reboot, after that, ubuntu just using 800x640	00:47
nevyn	K`zan: either or.	00:47
miguelangello	hitsujiTMO, could i upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 or do i have to do a new os installation?	00:47
hitsujiTMO	!upgrade \| miguelangello	00:47
ubottu	miguelangello: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade	00:47
K`zan	y	00:47
black_angel	is there any suggestion of using the new nvidia driver?	00:48
miguelangello	hitsujiTMO, thanks	00:48
K`zan	nevyn: Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=dca8e93ea355a3e8aaf24ee8b0d3c11178af73ed	00:48
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: why have you installed an unsupported driver?	00:48
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nevyn	K`zan: ok.	00:49
K`zan	nevyn: ?	00:49
nevyn	so you have 3 sound devices.	00:50
miguelangello	hitsujiTMO, one more question, wont i have problem with hardware requirements with 12.04 version?	00:50
nevyn	the onboard analog card, a usb soundcard and a HDMI output?	00:50
K`zan	nevyn: err, 4 show up in the mixer	00:50
K`zan	I have no USB sound device, although it shows one.	00:50
hitsujiTMO	miguelangello: how much ram do you have? what processor?	00:50
nevyn	so mixers are a different ballpark...	00:50
nevyn	I'll get to that.	00:51
nevyn	do you have a webcam with microphone?	00:51
miguelangello	hitsujiTMO, 1 gb ram ddr2 and 1.86 ghz 32 bits	00:51
black_angel	hitsujiTMO: why the nvidia_331 is an unsupported driver?	00:51
daftykins	black_angel: what card do you have?	00:51
hitsujiTMO	miguelangello: you might be better off with lubuntu then	00:51
K`zan	nevyn: Really appreciate this. Got webcam, but I do not know if it has a mic, makes sense, lemme check.	00:51
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: its not in the repo, therefore unsupported. Do you have a reason to use it?	00:52
glitsj16	hitsujiTMO: the nvidia-331 is in precise-updates ..	00:52
K`zan	nevyn: Logitech, Inc. HD Webcam C510 Lemme google it, got it ages ago never used it (planned for skype).	00:52
hitsujiTMO	glitsj16: since when?	00:52
miguelangello	hitsujiTMO, i see 10.04 working good for me but i dont know 12.04 i will try it	00:53
nevyn	K`zan: yeah that'll be it.	00:53
glitsj16	hitsujiTMO: don't know, just found out	00:53
liaise	hi there--if I want to take two wifi nics and bridge them, should i use ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop??	00:53
black_angel	hitsujiTMO: cause i'm using precise now	00:53
glitsj16	hitsujiTMO: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=nvidia-331	00:53
hitsujiTMO	glitsj16: o.O	00:54
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: sorry, it must have been added recently	00:54
Bashing-om	miguelangello: If I may, 12.04 ubuntu/unity will not give you a good experience. Lubuntu will fly and the desk top is more similar to what you are accustomed to.	00:54
K`zan	nevyn: OK, manual is taking forever...	00:54
nevyn	meh.	00:54
nevyn	not important.	00:54
nevyn	it's only input.	00:54
K`zan	nevyn: Yes, it does.	00:55
black_angel	so the question is now, how to using the new driver?	00:55
ryanw	Hi. Is it possible to make "wc -l" understand OS9 line endings?	00:55
markovirc_	Hello ryanw	00:55
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: so you installed if from the repo? what gpu do you have?	00:55
markimpgs	guys can not switch to the high performance video Graphics amd / ati when run the script to change is a black screen and I have to force shut down	00:56
daftykins	black_angel: which hardware are you using?	00:56
liaise	hi there--if I want to take two wifi nics and bridge them, should i use ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop??	00:56
miguelangello	Bashing-om, thanks	00:56
daftykins	liaise: why on earth do you want to bridge two wireless interfaces? D:	00:56
nevyn	K`zan: so x-plane may have a good reason to go around PA directly to hw:0	00:57
ryanw	liaise: doesn't really matter.	00:57
Bashing-om	miguelangello: no :D	00:57
black_angel	when i used 'lspci \| grep -i vga', it display me : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1058 (rev a1)	00:57
liaise	my apartment complex' wifi allows only one mac address at a time	00:57
liaise	it's evil	00:57
K`zan	nevyn: OK...	00:57
liaise	i want to set the internet free	00:57
daftykins	black_angel: laptop or desktop?	00:57
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: lspci -nn \| grep VGA	00:57
liaise	so i'm not really bridging, i'm running a dhcp server	00:57
liaise	anyone know the answer to this one?	00:57
black_angel	01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1058] (rev a1)	00:58
black_angel	I'm using Thinkpad E430	00:58
liaise	no?	00:58
* nevyn is getting a scriptkiddie feeling...		00:58
Bashing-om	miguelangello: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu	00:58
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: a 610M ?	00:58
liaise	there there nevyn. you're not a scriptkiddie	00:58
black_angel	hitsujiTMO: I think so.	00:59
daftykins	black_angel: looks like an nvidia optimus setup, you can't install nvidia drivers normally. you're going to either have to run the intel on its' own, or look into bumblebee / alternatives. but proper optimus support is only coming in 14.04	00:59
daftykins	black_angel: this is why you get a stuck low resolution when trying to install nvidia's drivers	00:59
black_angel	daftykins: omg	00:59
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you created one	01:00
hitsujiTMO	!bumblebee \| black_angel this might help you get the optimus working	01:00
ubottu	black_angel this might help you get the optimus working: The Bumblebee Project aims to support NVIDIA Optimus technology under Linux. The Bumblebee website can be found at http://bumblebee-project.org/	01:00
daftykins	keep forgetting the name of the bumblebee alternative, the new ne	01:00
daftykins	*new one	01:00
hitsujiTMO	nvidia-prime	01:00
daftykins	yep, ty sir	01:00
hitsujiTMO	13.10+ for it	01:01
daftykins	seems to require sort of hacked on newer X.org versions etc too?	01:01
hitsujiTMO	never kernel + newer xorg. it could work in 12.04.4 on saucy enablement stack technically	01:02
nevyn	man.. arlied should be shot for that pun	01:02
black_angel	hitsujiTMO: yep, i've remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it becomes normal but can't using any 3D acceleration.	01:03
hitsujiTMO	daftykins: o.O seems they did add it to 12.04 aswell	01:03
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime	01:04
daftykins	hitsujiTMO: i think you have to fiddle around with hacking on a precise kernel then many other steps	01:04
hitsujiTMO	daftykins: as long as they're on the saucy lts enablement stack it should work	01:05
daftykins	what's required for that?	01:05
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: whats the output of: uname -r	01:05
black_angel	hitsujiTMO: 3.2.0-58-generic-pae	01:06
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: ahh, dont install nvidia-prime then	01:06
K`zan	nevyn: ?	01:07
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: are you on 32bit?	01:07
hitsujiTMO	black_angel: you choices are either https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee or add the saucy lts enablement stack + nvidia-prime: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack	01:09
black_angel	hitsujiTMO: yep. 32-bits	01:09
black_angel	hitsujiTMO: why do not install nvidia-prime?	01:09
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hitsujiTMO	black_angel: you need kernel 3.9 or xorg 1.14 to use it. so you'd need to update to the saucy lts enablement stack first	01:10
nevyn	K`zan: ok. kde first.	01:11
nevyn	configure the phonon system in kde to use the gstreamer backend and use pulseaudio	01:11
black_angel	hitsujiTMO: thanks, man	01:12
K`zan	nevyn: Got the word that dinner is ON THE TABLE :-), back in a bit, thanks VERY much, bbasap!	01:15
nevyn	ok.	01:15
liaise	hi there--if I want to take two wifi nics and bridge them, should i use ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop??	01:15
gr33n7007h	liaise, why don't you change your mac address to the same one as your connected to see if that works	01:16
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hitsujiTMO	liaise: it doesn't matter. use server if you dont actually need a desktop	01:16
liaise	hitsujiTMO, kk thanks	01:17
liaise	but any idea on how to get the two NICS to work like that?	01:17
liaise	i want it to act as a router, except instead of an ethernet connection, it's a wifi NIC	01:17
liaise	so i'd have to run dhcp	01:17
liaise	but this is way over my head i need help	01:17
liaise	HALP	01:17
liaise	SOMEBODY HALP ME WITH MY DHCP	01:18
ryanw	Probably not the best way to get help	01:18
hitsujiTMO	liaise: you'd have to get 1 running in ap mode	01:18
liaise	yes, exactly	01:18
liaise	how do you do that?	01:18
liaise	ap mode activate?	01:18
hitsujiTMO	liaise: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode	01:19
liaise	computer, set external USB NIC to be an AP that gives out internal addresses via DHCP	01:19
liaise	hitsujiTMO, thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	01:19
liaise	hitsujiTMO, thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	01:20
hitsujiTMO	liaise: lol, np	01:20
bmccoy11	Can I put a live CD on an SD Card reader?	01:21
Norith	Is there a good repo to get a 3.13 kernel on saucy?	01:21
handlebar	!info darktable > handlebar	01:21
ryanw	bmccoy11: you can put it on an SD card, yeah.	01:22
Norith	Or, more specifically, is there any reason that I can't install a 3.13 kernel from kernel-ppa mainline that's tagged with trusty?	01:22
Jabo	bmccoy11: as long as the machine can boot from the SD card	01:22
bmccoy11	Okay.	01:22
syntroPi	Wen using a laptop with 13.10 x64 do i really need a separate swap partition for standby working or can i also put the swapfile on the systempartiton too?	01:23
hitsujiTMO	Norith: use the trust one. its only a name	01:23
hitsujiTMO	Norith: do you have a good reason to use 3.13?	01:23
ryanw	syntroPi: I don't think there is a swapfile, just a swap partition.	01:23
ryanw	Been a while since I messed with that stuff though	01:24
Norith	hitsujiTMO: Well, I'm having some issues with the Intel 7260 Wifi adapter in my y410 Lenovo laptop. The -7 firmware that works with 3.10 isn't fixing the issue, so i wanted to try the next revision against 3.13	01:24
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: a swap partition is preffered over a swap file.	01:24
syntroPi	ryanw, hitsujiTMO its possible to make a swapfile on system (eg ext4 fs) and) and mount it via fstab, im just not sure if standby works with that. the reason is i need mbr with 1 efi-boot, 1 linux-sys, 1 linux-home and one windows-sys primary partition, so none is left for swap. Any suggestions for such a setup?	01:26
liaise	who wants to take me to a truck stop and fuck me in a McDonald's bathroom jackhammer style on top of the baby changing station?	01:26
Norith	syntroPi: swap and home can be extended partitions	01:27
Norith	syntroPi: or use LVMs for your linux partitions	01:28
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: if you're using uefi then you have a gpt patition layout which has a limit of 128 partitions, not 4	01:28
syntroPi	Norith, hmm might me a good choice, when requiring one uefi-boot fat32 and one windows-sys primary mbr partition how would you recommend to install the linux so standby and swap is working for it?	01:30
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, yes with gpt it would be like this, but i really need mbr layout for that windows-sys	01:30
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: then you don't need an efi partition	01:31
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, hmm but if i want to boot in efi mode wouldnt i need efi partition for that then?	01:31
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: you CANNOT boot uefi on an mbr partition. mbr is for BIOS, gpt is for UEFI	01:32
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: you must have both OS's installed as either uefi, or bios mode.	01:33
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: why do you need mbr for windows?	01:33
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, hmm but i already did install ubuntu in uefi mode on mbr setup i just now need to add one windows-sys	01:33
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, there is one "special" reason for this, believe me ;-)	01:34
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: you'll break the partition table for ubuntu if you try to install windows in mbr. why not install it in uefi mode?	01:35
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, yes uefi mode both for linux and windows on mbr	01:36
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: are you on the ubuntu on that machine now?	01:36
syntroPi	so i need one uefi-boot, one linux-sys, one linux-home and one windows-sys	01:36
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, yes but now booted from cd	01:37
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l	01:37
qwebirc759393	The screen to my laptop in KDE/Openbox goes black when I close the lid. Any way to fix this?	01:38
advx	Hi all, Good Morning	01:39
hitsujiTMO	qwebirc759393: thats normal. do you mean it fails to come up after you reopen the lid?	01:40
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829588/	01:40
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: and thats with ubuntu installed and booting in uefi?	01:41
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, yes it is (uefi, sys, swp, home) here is complete output of it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829591/ though right now im on livecd	01:42
qwebirc759393	hitsujiTMO - If I close the lid the screen goes black and I could not get my screen to come back on. I tried every keyboard shortcut I could think of and nothing worked. So I had to reboot and here I am.	01:44
k_sze[work]	Hello	01:46
markovirc_	Hello k_sze[work]	01:46
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, hmm maybe i should use something like {uefi-boot/fat32, linux-lvm for sys and home, swap, windows-sys}... Is such a layout possible for uefi?	01:46
k_sze[work]	oops, wrong channel	01:46
gr33n7007h	bot alert	01:46
qwebirc759393	If I am logged into KDE/Openbox from Ubuntu 12.04, close the lid and reopen the lid, the screen stays black. I want to know how to fix this so it does not happen the next time.	01:47
rww	gr33n7007h: hrm?	01:47
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: it is. but your /dev/sda1 isn't an efi system partition btw	01:48
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, hmm well it boots in uefi mode from this.	01:49
gr33n7007h	rww, nothing	01:49
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: actually sorry, the windows partition cannot go onto an LVM. it needs to be on a pri partition. the rest can go on tho. but an extended partition would be better	01:52
qwebirc759393	hitsujiTMO - yes.	01:53
glitsj16	qwebirc759393: how did you configure your power settings? there should be something related to what you want to happen on lid close .. and i think you just needed to press the power button to bring the screen back (never used KDE so wording might differ)	01:55
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, hmm i am not too familiar with lvm, but isnt it just a subdivision of a mbr primary partition? if so i would just want to use it for linux-sys and linux-home and all the others primary mbr's. if thats possible at all	01:55
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: no, thats extended partition. lvm is a whole different ballgame. its a partition in itself, that has some advanced features that you'll prob never use	01:56
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, are you sure a mixed lvm/mbr setup is not possible (as i said im not familiar with lvm)	01:58
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: you can use lvm, just not with windows tho.	01:59
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, so its either lvm for whole /dev/sda or mbr for the whole disk? i cant use windows mbr and ontop of one mbr a linux lvm to subdivide it in lnx-sys/home?	02:00
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: no, gpt all of /dev/sda or mbr /dev/sda	02:01
qwebirc759393	glitsj16 - my screen power settings seem fine. I have it set to do nothing when the lid is closed.	02:02
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: lvm is a partition in itself. that you can put you linux partitions into into, but you need to leave all but /boot out of it	02:02
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, you mean external /boot and swap and rest of linux in lvm?	02:04
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: yup	02:04
glitsj16	qwebirc759393: perhaps this might help, but like i said .. not sure if this is still the correct info on current KDE --> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/powerdevil/	02:04
syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, hmm can i combine uefi-boot and /boot in one mbr fat32? how big should /boot be then?	02:06
hitsujiTMO	syntroPi: no. /boot must be a linux file system. 200mb+ is good	02:07
syntroPi	ok thx	02:07
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K`zan	nevyn: Back, apologies, she who commands the kitchen has been appeased :-).	02:21
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syntroPi	hitsujiTMO, hmm seems there is no way for separate linux-sys and linux-home on mbr, so i would need uefi, linux, swap, windows instead	02:28
nevyn	mmm..	02:30
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jester792514	Hello! Can anyone address a rack server question?	02:31
markovirc_	Hello jester792514	02:31
advx	bye 4 now..	02:31
Marknat	Hello jester792514	02:31
jester792514	I'm trying to install and buy a new rackserver and see U sizes	02:31
jester792514	I don't know if rack servers are pretty standardized in which i can install any rack cpu into a encasing	02:32
jester792514	an*	02:32
hitsujiTMO	jester792514: starting to sound like a question for #hardware	02:32
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jester792514	ty	02:33
jester792514	!join #hardware	02:33
K`zan	nevyn: ?	02:33
nevyn	K`zan: lunchtime.	02:33
jester792514	sorry fail<	02:33
nevyn	actually it's afterlunchtime.	02:33
K`zan	Ah, understand, will stand by, thanks!	02:33
K`zan	nevyn: Ah, understand, will stand by, thanks!	02:34
K`zan	nevyn: Gotta fuel the furnace :-).	02:34
hitsujiTMO	jester792514: sorry, that should be ##hardware	02:34
Ronie1	.	02:34
Ronie1	hello	02:35
markovirc_	Hello Ronie1	02:35
Ronie1	hello markovirc	02:35
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nevyn	a/win 17	02:36
hitsujiTMO	markovirc_: can you please disable your bot	02:41
lacrymology	just installed kubuntu in my girlfriend's laptop. It shipped with windows 8, and the battery life was HOURS (which is crazy, since it's got a huge screen), and now it's taking less than an hour to drain. Any pointers?	02:43
daftykins	lacrymology: can you link to the spec of it?	02:44
lacrymology	hm..	02:44
lacrymology	give me a minute	02:44
lacrymology	I used to know this	02:44
r0b-	anyone using ATI Vdeo cards in Ubuntu 13.10?	02:44
* r0b- cant seem to get the FGLRX Driver to work		02:45
daftykins	!ati \| r0b-	02:46
ubottu	r0b-: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto	02:46
r0b-	thanks daftykins	02:47
fabio123	/j #intel-gfx	02:47
r0b-	sigh i have used this guide.	02:48
r0b-	it refused to work for me.	02:48
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: what card do you have?	02:48
daftykins	r0b-: what happened exactly? any steps fail?	02:48
r0b-	HD6670	02:48
r0b-	my desktop refuses to come up.	02:48
r0b-	like i just see the wallpaper but cant do anything.	02:48
r0b-	the driver i used was Ati's 13.12 driver	02:49
Bashing-om	r0b-: Well, could be a case of no can do, AMD droped support for the 2/2/4X series of cards.	02:49
r0b-	this is supported. its HD6XXX series.	02:50
fabio123	nothing comes near the linux intel driver now	02:50
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: did you install driver from amd site?	02:50
r0b-	yes.	02:50
lacrymology	daftykins: I'm pretty sure it's this http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c03502358	02:50
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: remove thrm. install from the repo	02:51
r0b-	i have also tried the fglrx from repo	02:51
lacrymology	daftykins: I'm thinking along the lines of enabling the discrete video card	02:51
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: and what version of ubuntu is it?	02:51
r0b-	well its Xubuntu but 13.10	02:51
daftykins	lacrymology: hrmm AMD - yeah is it sporting a funky on-die APU and discrete graphics setup? i'd imagine it's giving full power to the discrete without necessarily being used	02:52
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: did you run: sudo aticonfig --initial	02:52
r0b-	yes.	02:52
lacrymology	"APU"?	02:52
lacrymology	what does "100%" mean in powertop?	02:52
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: can you get a terminal with ctrl + alt + t ?	02:52
r0b-	hitsujiTMO: i think we talked yesterday.	02:52
r0b-	hang on.	02:53
lacrymology	and why the hell is my audio codec running "100%" if nothing's sounding	02:53
r0b-	let me install the repo driver again. and i will get bak to you	02:53
r0b-	fglrx or fglrx-updates?	02:53
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: uninstall the website ones first	02:53
r0b-	i did.	02:53
hitsujiTMO	fglrx	02:53
r0b-	ok its installing.	02:54
r0b-	can i do the aticonfig over ssh or?	02:54
daftykins	lacrymology: i was going to suggest powertop but i'm not sure if it's well maintained	02:54
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: delete the old /etc/X11/xorg.conf before running: sudo aticonfig --initial	02:55
r0b-	ok	02:55
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: yes running it over ssh should be fine	02:55
r0b-	ok. give me a few minutes sir :)	02:55
lacrymology	daftykins: funny, I turn off some tunables, and the wakeups/s ratio goes down	02:56
SonikkuAmerica	!info fuse-utils	02:57
ubottu	Package fuse-utils does not exist in saucy	02:57
daftykins	lacrymology: what kinds of things are you turning off?	02:58
r0b-	ok hitsujiTMO just aticonfig --initial?	02:58
r0b-	as root or?	02:59
daftykins	or with sudo	02:59
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: root or sudo	02:59
daftykins	only root can write xorg.conf	02:59
r0b-	ok	02:59
r0b-	ok now reboot?	03:00
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: yup	03:00
maujhsn	Can anybody tell me how to upgrade the vlc media player in ubuntu linux?	03:00
maujhsn	Currently using VLC media player 1.0.6 in ubuntu-10.04!	03:00
r0b-	ok hang on :)	03:01
r0b-	ok rebooting now.	03:01
hitsujiTMO	maujhsn: you need to upgrade to 12.04. 10.04 is not supported	03:02
lacrymology	daftykins: it says "wireless power saving for interface wlan0", "Autosuspend for USB device foo", etc	03:03
daftykins	lacrymology: but yeah basically it sounds like there's on-die graphics with the CPU as well as graphics with the discrete, so you may want to look into whether that can be setup and either utilised/disabled	03:04
maujhsn	hitsujiTMO If I don't upgrade to 12.04 than its probably best to leave vlc alone right?	03:05
r0b-	hitsujiTMO: nothing. just wallpaper no mouse or task bar.	03:05
hitsujiTMO	maujhsn: you cannoy	03:05
hitsujiTMO	maujhsn: you cannot upgrade vlc or anything on 10.04 desktop	03:06
maujhsn	Why not?	03:06
hitsujiTMO	maujhsn: its end of life. no longer supported	03:06
maujhsn	hitsujiTMO Yes ok that makes sense!	03:07
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: ok. can you open the terminal with ctrl + alt + t then: sudo apt-get install pastebinit	03:07
r0b-	im back in via SSH	03:07
lacrymology	another question... in chromium on ubuntu gnome, when I hit "save page as..." I get a "type" dropdown where I can select html only or webpage, complete. This second option saves all the media files,css, etc as well as the html. In kubuntu that option's not there	03:07
r0b-	what do you need?	03:08
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: then: sudo apt-get install pastebinit	03:08
r0b-	its there.	03:08
r0b-	:)	03:08
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log	03:08
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hitsujiTMO	r0b-: pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors	03:08
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829892/	03:08
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829893/	03:09
r0b-	first is Xorg the second is the xession-errors	03:09
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: cat `date` `ls -l ~/.xession-errors` \| pastebinit	03:10
r0b-	that just made errors on terminal	03:11
r0b-	both .xession-error things bitch about brltty	03:12
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: date && pastebinit && ls -l ~/.xession-errors \| pastebinit	03:12
r0b-	this command doesnt finish :)	03:13
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: sorry: date \| pastebinit && ls -l ~/.xession-errors \| pastebinit	03:13
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: ctrl + c on the last one	03:14
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829912/	03:14
r0b-	:\|	03:15
* r0b- has no idea man		03:15
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: and the second one	03:15
r0b-	it didnt read the file	03:15
Ronie	hello	03:16
r0b-	.xession errors is not a folder its a file :)	03:16
markovirc_	Hello Ronie	03:16
Ronie	hello markovirc	03:16
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829930/	03:16
r0b-	thats the .xession errors	03:16
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: ls -l ~/.xsession-errors \| pastebinit	03:17
r0b-	i just told you...	03:17
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: i want to see the attributes	03:17
r0b-	-rw------- 1 rob rob 257 Jan 27 22:06 .xsession-errors	03:17
r0b-	:)	03:17
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hitsujiTMO	r0b-: pastebinit /var/crash/fglrx.0.crash	03:18
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829937/	03:18
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: lsmod \| grep fglrx \| pastebinit	03:19
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829941/	03:20
* r0b- really appreciates your help man		03:20
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: dmesg \| pastebinit && lspci \| pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf	03:21
Ronie1	hello	03:22
markovirc_	Hello Ronie1	03:22
r0b-	ed #ubuntu	03:22
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829953/	03:23
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829954/	03:23
r0b-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829955/	03:23
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Ronie1	hello tim	03:25
Ronie1	hello tim	03:25
Ronie1	hello	03:25
markovirc_	Hello Ronie1	03:25
Ronie1	hello marovirc	03:25
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME	03:26
handlebar	markovic: This is not a channel for your bot	03:26
r0b-	ok done.	03:27
r0b-	ran exactly as you posted.	03:27
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: test now	03:28
r0b-	reboot?	03:28
aFeijo	hi guys, I need to copy /tmp/.htaccess to /var/www/sites//files (/files means over 100 directories), cp fail returning 'omitting directory `.../files/', there is no directory been copied, just a file. Why it fails? I try with cp -r too	03:28
r0b-	or?	03:28
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: just relog	03:28
r0b-	ill reboot :)	03:28
r0b-	meh	03:28
r0b-	back in a few :)	03:28
r0b-	hitsujiTMO: same issue	03:30
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: ok. on the gui , can you get up a terminal with: ctrl + alt + t	03:30
r0b-	no.	03:30
r0b-	its the same no gui just the wallpaper.	03:31
r0b-	no mouse or anything	03:31
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: even if you hit ctrl + alt + t ?	03:31
r0b-	no.	03:31
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: can you log into the guest account?	03:31
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: is the same issue in the guest account?	03:32
r0b-	I wonder if XFCE does not like the driver.	03:32
totesmuhgoats	hey guys	03:32
* r0b- is using Xubuntu not Normal Ubuntu.		03:32
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hitsujiTMO	r0b-: ahh kk.	03:32
daftykins	do what hitsujiTMO suggests r0b-, to test a blank xfce config, or move/rename ~/.config/xfce*	03:33
totesmuhgoats	i installed a new desktop enviroment to try it out and i decided i don't like it, problem is it installed a bunch of packages that have really cluttered up my system and made it hard to find what i want, extra file manager, terminal, image viewer, there's 2 of everything	03:33
AMAX	alguém sabe me dizer se mudou muito da versão 12 para a 13 ?	03:33
daftykins	anywho bed time, so i shall stop treading on hitsujiTMO's capable toes ^_^	03:33
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: or can you create a new account and test	03:33
r0b-	ill try that.	03:33
hitsujiTMO	daftykins: lol, no problems there :P	03:33
totesmuhgoats	is there a way to remove not just the package, but all the packages that were installed with it?	03:33
totesmuhgoats	because just removing the desktop would still leave the extra tools behind	03:34
r0b-	brb	03:34
daftykins	totesmuhgoats: "apt-cache showpkg whatever-desktop" will show you all the packages and dependancies of that desktop	03:34
daftykins	totesmuhgoats: then, you could copy and paste all those packages into "sudo apt-get remove <those packages>"	03:35
totesmuhgoats	daftykins: well that desktop probably has some overlap with the desktop that was already installed no?	03:35
daftykins	then you'd install the full DE package of what you do want (:	03:36
ermac0	aFeijo, cp /tmp/.htaccess /var/www/sites/files/ , make sure are owner of those directories or sudo.	03:36
daftykins	or do the showpkg command for that one too, and compare	03:36
totesmuhgoats	daftykins: i can dig it, thanks	03:37
daftykins	np	03:37
aFeijo	ermac0, I'm using the root user. But I just try with sudo, same error	03:37
ermac0	use -r with the syntax above	03:39
r0b-	it works halfass on a new account.	03:39
r0b-	so i may try renaming my users xfce config	03:39
aFeijo	ermac0, I did	03:40
aFeijo	ermac0, no errors then, but the file is not copied	03:40
gmachine_24	greetings earthlings. I've always used Clonezilla to copy my music drive to another music drive. These drives do not carry the OS or any other files/data. But, if I'm cloning a partition on drive D to drive E and neither has the OS, data files, etc. . . I can just umount the partition I want to clone and then use partclone, correct? I don't need to boot from the Clonezilla CD, etc.	03:40
r0b-	brb	03:41
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: so config issue then :( did you try renaming ~/.config/xfce* as daftykins suggested to reset the xfce settings? might be easier that porting everything to a new account	03:41
r0b-	THANK YOU hitsujiTMO	03:49
hitsujiTMO	r0b-: np	03:49
r0b-	i renamed my xfce config and it works )	03:49
r0b-	:)	03:49
gmachine_24	any help on my partclone question......... please..............................	03:52
r0b-	I just gotta reconfigure my Task menues and wallpaper.	03:54
r0b-	:) Much appreciated hitsujiTMO :)	03:54
daftykins	gmachine_24: backing up on the same disk is REALLY not going to help	03:54
r0b-	i feel half dumb now :(	03:54
daftykins	oh no you said different drives, nm	03:55
r0b-	I will have to remember that.	03:55
r0b-	so i guess i can delete my old xfce config?	03:56
r0b-	or keep it?	03:57
r0b-	\o	03:58
gmachine_24	daftykins I'm sorry but if you read what I read you will see I am backing up from one drive to another ... so maybe don't be so condescending	04:02
gmachine_24	it would REALLY help if you read what I actually wrote	04:03
gmachine_24	yeah. didn't think so. loser.	04:14
lacrymology	should lspci show all graphic cards regardless of if they have the right drivers or not? I'm trying to figure out if my graphics card is discrete or not	04:17
hitsujiTMO	lacrymology: yup it would	04:18
hitsujiTMO	lacrymology: in later cards hybrid cards, some are not under "VGA" but "3D" aswell	04:20
AncientTech	Greetings, Hope I'm in active channel, I have a nag-problem-question about k3b Burning software..	04:20
proteus-F10	how to change interface	04:21
lacrymology	hitsujiTMO: it appears as a VGA, and no intel card, so I guess it's not hybrid..	04:23
lacrymology	hitsujiTMO: so the question remains, why under windows the battery lasts about 4x as much?	04:23
hitsujiTMO	lacrymology: what card is it?	04:23
mssmss	Hello ... I have 12.04.2 LTS installed and am unable to update due to linux-image-generic-pae dependency problems ... can anyone help me ?	04:24
markovirc_	Hello mssmss	04:24
hitsujiTMO	lacrymology: usually thats down to power management. You may need to install the proprietary drivers to get improved power management. The open drivers get a massive improvement in 14.04 with this	04:26
Ben64	mssmss: pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"	04:27
mssmss	Here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830126/	04:27
mssmss	Ben64......will get them for you ...	04:28
Ben65	hello	04:30
markovirc_	Hello Ben65	04:30
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maujhsn	hitsujiTMO Hello again. i have a question a Q about the gnome terminal! How to I set preferences so that I can select all, cut and paste a full .xml docment using the nano editor? The default only allows me to select just the current page.	04:30
mssmss	sudo apt-get update results : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830134/	04:30
lacrymology	hitsujiTMO: my lspci output looks stupidly small.. <20 devices listed	04:31
hitsujiTMO	maujhsn: not sure to be honest. don't use nano that heavy myself.	04:31
lacrymology	any options I'm missing?	04:31
hitsujiTMO	lacrymology: thats normal	04:31
lacrymology	if you say so =)	04:31
mssmss	sudo apt-get upgrade result : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830135/	04:32
maujhsn	hitsujiTMO OK, Can another editor do it?	04:32
phunyguy	hello	04:32
markovirc_	Hello phunyguy	04:32
hitsujiTMO	maujhsn: in terminal emacs should.	04:32
AncientTech	Greetings, Hope I'm in active channel, I have a nag-problem-question about k3b Burning software..	04:33
AncientTech	As I'm starting a new project, I have an upper window (source) and lower window (burnlist).	04:33
AncientTech	"Before", it was showing be both directories and individual files within the source directory in the upper window (source).	04:33
AncientTech	I seem to have inadvertently changed the upper window (source) to just displaying directories, instead of showing directories and files.	04:33
AncientTech	What did I do??	04:34
FloodBot1	AncientTech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:34
maujhsn	hitsujiTMO I got it...gedit allows me to select a whole document!	04:34
mssmss	Ben65: this has been a vexing problem as I have not been able to update for quite some time now ...I have looked at all the forums, but have not been able to figure out a proper solution...	04:34
IdleOne	hello	04:34
markovirc_	Hello IdleOne	04:34
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hitsujiTMO	lacrymology: what is the output of: lspci -nn \| grep VGA	04:35
Ben64	mssmss: what does the command "uname -a" return?	04:36
mssmss	Linux orange 3.2.0-58-generic-pae #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 18:00:02 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux	04:37
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hitsujiTMO	mssmss: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb	04:38
hitsujiTMO	mssmss: then rerun: sudo apt-get -f install	04:39
macbar99	ciao	04:43
hitsujiTMO	!list > macbar99	04:43
ubottu	macbar99, please see my private message	04:43
macbar99	ok	04:44
AncientTech	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830188/plain/	04:48
AncientTech	Greetings, Hope I'm in active channel, I have a nag-problem-question about k3b Burning software..	04:48
AncientTech	As I'm starting a new project, I have an upper window (source) and lower window (burnlist).	04:48
AncientTech	"Before", it was showing be both directories and individual files within the source directory in the upper window (source).	04:48
AncientTech	I seem to have inadvertently changed the upper window (source) to just displaying directories, instead of showing directories and files.	04:48
AncientTech	What did I do??	04:48
FloodBot1	AncientTech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:48
knopwob	AncientTech: please listen to the Bot	04:48
AncientTech	Trying to relearn after 30 yrs..	04:49
hitsujiTMO	!enter \| AncientTech this would be a better response	04:49
ubottu	AncientTech this would be a better response: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	04:49
hitsujiTMO	AncientTech: there may be more users that can help you in #kubuntu	04:50
AncientTech	Thx, I'll go there..tried at K3b, but only 2 users there..	04:50
AncientTech	How does one use the paste.ubuntu??	04:51
IdleOne	AncientPC: my guess is you somehow disabled something in the View settings. Check the menu and see if there is anything that pops out at you	04:52
hitsujiTMO	AncientTech: #kde could be a helpful channel too for it	04:52
AncientTech	Thx guys.. I did UNIX and XENIX back in the 80's...Sure has changed since then..so many OS, so many Apps, blows my mind..	04:54
hitsujiTMO	people actually used xenix?	04:56
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flos	AncientTech, the k3b will store config files in ~/.config . maybe you can move those files to a backup and restart the k3b	04:57
AncientTech	IdleOne wins the prize...settings..panel..contents...thx	04:57
IdleOne	sure thing	04:58
Lognic	ubunt stuck at installing system	04:58
AncientTech	flos - I will check that out...still figuring out where stuff is stored... Thx.	04:59
Lognic	ubuntu stuck at installing system	04:59
Diplomatico	I want to mount an image in a certain folder and this is the output: is write-protected, mounting read-only. (and I can't access the files, they don't show when ls)	04:59
Lognic	ubunt stuck at installing system	05:00
mssmss	Hi BenHi Ben65	05:00
Diplomatico	I mounted as a root, and it doesn't work...	05:01
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: what type of image and what command are you using to mount exactly?	05:01
mssmss	got knocked out of irc due to power loss..	05:01
hitsujiTMO	mssmss: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb	05:01
hitsujiTMO	mssmss: then rerun: sudo apt-get -f install	05:01
Diplomatico	mount crunchbang*.iso /mnt/tmp2 -o loop,uid=1000,gid=1000	05:01
mssmss	thanks hitsujiTMO	05:01
mssmss	let me try that	05:01
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: and ls -l /mnt/tmp2 produces no output?	05:02
Diplomatico	ls no output.Have to try the other one...wait	05:03
Diplomatico	Or is it one command altogether?	05:03
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mssmss	hitsujiTMO : here's the result of wget .....	05:04
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: single command: ls -l /mnt/tmp2	05:04
Diplomatico	ok...	05:04
Diplomatico	let me try	05:04
Lognic	ubunt stuck at installing system	05:05
Diplomatico	That worked hitsujiTMO, but I don't understand why ls didn't!	05:05
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: whats the output of: pwd	05:05
mssmss	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830234/	05:05
Lognic	ubunt stuck at installing system	05:06
flos	./.kde/share/apps/k3b and ./.kde/share/config/k3brc	05:06
hitsujiTMO	mssmss: run: sudo apt-get -f install	05:06
Bashing-om	Lognic: Hi ! Where are you stuck at, if dual booting Windows, I run !	05:06
Diplomatico	The output of pwd shows the folder...	05:06
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: did you cd to /mnt/tmp2 before you mounted?	05:07
Lognic	stuck at installing system after wiping out windows xp	05:07
Diplomatico	No.	05:07
Diplomatico	I'm supposed to??	05:07
crosbymichael	what is cli installer found on the ubuntu mini isos called?	05:07
mssmss	hitsujiTMO: here's the result from sudo apt-get ... : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830235/	05:08
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: no, if you had your pwd would be /mnt/tmp2 on the hard drive, not /mnt/tmp2 the mount point	05:08
mssmss	it still fails	05:08
Bashing-om	Lognic: explain your process and what has happened, All that you should need to do is boot the disk, choose install, answere a few simpke questions, and the install wizard do it thing, over and done with,	05:08
hitsujiTMO	mssmss: we'll fix that	05:08
Diplomatico	I don't understand, I'm trying to mount an iso in a folder in my hard drive!	05:08
mssmss	ok..thanks .. it's looks like updater is going around in circles ...	05:09
hitsujiTMO	mssmss: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-image-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb	05:10
Diplomatico	The .iso is in the hard drive, in a certain folder, i want to mount it in another folder within the same hdd	05:10
hitsujiTMO	mssmss: then once again, sudo apt-get -f install	05:10
Lognic	Bashing-om:so, it was early finished when it just froze normally, i haven't done anything that I'm no supposed to do.	05:11
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: cd /mnt/tmp2	05:11
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: ls	05:11
Diplomatico	No output.	05:11
Diplomatico	But it did when i aded -l ...	05:12
mssmss	OK...trying that ...	05:12
Bashing-om	Lognic: Well, Where is the installer hanging ? What was the last questiion you answered ? - Did you check the .iso file check sum ?	05:12
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: so what do now you get from: ls -l	05:12
Diplomatico	I get the list of the files, a lot.	05:13
Diplomatico	But it's supposed to do that just with ls, isn't it?	05:13
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: but nothing for ls? hmm, a little bizarre	05:13
Diplomatico	That's true.	05:13
Lognic	Bashing-om:hanging at the any questions screen,i gave it my keyboard layout.	05:14
Diplomatico	Could it be that I've been messing around with chown?	05:14
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: that chould have no effect	05:14
Diplomatico	Ok.	05:14
hitsujiTMO	should*	05:14
Diplomatico	Maybe it could be that I had a normal user terminal opened as the same time as a root terminal?? I can't remember which one I used for what.	05:15
Ronie1	kernel 3.2.29 is good?	05:16
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hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: bit ls and ls -l are essentiall the exact same thing, just different output formats	05:16
Diplomatico	Still strange...	05:16
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: very	05:16
Diplomatico	But did we resolve the read-only mount??	05:17
Ronie1	Diplomatico:kernel 3.2.29 is good?	05:17
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: its a cd image. its by its nature read only	05:17
Lognic	Bashing-om:hanging at the any questions screen,i gave it my keyboard layout.	05:17
Bashing-om	Lognic: Wow that is early on in the install process. UMMm,. XP box -> ; pentium 4 processor ?	05:17
Diplomatico	Ok.But they can be copied if I want to??	05:18
Diplomatico	the files I mean.	05:18
mssmss	hitsujiTMO : looks better now ....http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830272/	05:18
VossArtesian	Hello, i am trying to install 12.04 LTS from a USB to my eeePC netbook. Currently it has 2 partitions and windows is installed on one. I want to wipe the whole disk and start fresh with ubuntu but im very confused by my options in the partition editor, can anyone help?	05:18
mssmss	should I try and update now ?	05:18
hitsujiTMO	mssmss: yup	05:18
stuppy	hello - I have a question about ssh. I disabled passwd auth and root login and added my user and public key. Can login fine, but a bit too fine. I am wondering if ubuntu might be caching my key or something because the server is not prompting me for a password now when I ssh user@ip or ssh <Host from ~/.ssh/config> even if I comment out the relevant config section. BUT, on a different computer runnng a live session, I am seeing	05:19
stuppy	permission denied (publickey). so I bevlive it's secure, but am curious why no denial on my original comp. Any insight would be appreciated. thanks.	05:19
Lognic	bashing om: yep, P4 processor	05:19
Diplomatico	Thank you a lot Hatsu!	05:19
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: key auth is instead of password auth so that sounds fine. did you restart the ssh daemon after changing the configs?	05:21
Bashing-om	Lognic: Is this the flagship ubuntu distribution that you are attempting to install ?, Lubuntu will be a much better option on a p4 .	05:21
stuppy	@VossArtesian, is there not an option to use entire disc? That's usually an option and that seems like what you were looking for. The other non-manual option would be side-by-side, which would be dual boot.	05:21
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO. yes, 2x sudo service ssh reload	05:22
Lognic	bashing-om: the ubuntu from the website	05:22
VossArtesian	stuppy: there is an option to erase everything and install, but after choosing that it gives me 2 partitions to choose from	05:23
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO - same with sudo service ssh restart as reload	05:23
Adrian0079	i have a PC with dual monitor(one DVI and Display Port) , but one of it ( on Display Port ) don't come up , any fix to that? ATI HD7650 / ubuntu 13.10, also i can see both monitors on ubuntu "Display" setting .	05:23
Bashing-om	Lognic: can you boot the liveDVD to "try ubuntu" mode so we can see some system specs, I bet no can install "ubuntu", Will be better with Lubuntu.	05:24
hitsujiTMO	Adrian0079: whats the output of: xrandr	05:25
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hitsujiTMO	stuppy: are you editing ~/.ssh/config on the server?	05:26
stuppy	@VossArtesian - you can also choose the manual method, and delete the partitions, create one full-disc partition, and then install.	05:27
Bashing-om	Lognic: I know by now you are frustrated as well as aggravated, we will get through this, Take a bit of time to read up: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE .	05:28
stuppy	@<VossArtesian> just back-up to where you chose entire-disk and find the manual option.	05:28
VossArtesian	stuppy: im starting to think im an idiot and theres actually 2 drives inside the machine, because removing the partition does nothing but create seperate free spaces	05:29
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hitsujiTMO	stuppy: theres no denial on the original as it has your pub key	05:29
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO no. editing local ~/.ssh/config and remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys	05:30
Diplomatico	VossArtesian, I think that the two partitions you are looking at are the MBR and the C: The first is used by the system.	05:31
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO - how would it know where to find my key after I comment out that section of the .ssh/config? I'm not using the stadard id_rsa file for that server either, so it should need to know which file to find it in I would think.	05:32
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VossArtesian	Diplomatico: its C and D, drives, aside from that there is also was seems to be a system file, and the USB im booting from	05:33
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: are you using ssh-agent?	05:33
VossArtesian	Diplomatico: c drive has windows and is about 4gb, d drive is about 8.5 gb	05:34
Diplomatico	Ok, I 'm no pro, but I can remember when i installed ubuntu is that just drag the edges of the partition editor and you'll get the partition you want.	05:34
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO - is ssh-agent used by default on ubuntu desktop and/or server. it's installed by default.	05:35
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO I am not invoking it explicitly	05:35
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: its not used by default.i'd assume that since you are using such a config it may be getting invoked and caching the key. have you tried uncommenting and then rebooting?	05:36
VossArtesian	Diplomatico: ok, thanks im just giving up for now because the install failed twice once on each partition	05:36
mssmss	hitsujiTMO: my internet connection is iffy ... Update is stuck at "Applying Changes" ...I'll try again latr and let you know .. thanks ...	05:40
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO - do you think it's a local or remote thing? I have not rebooted. I wanted to get it all squared before rebooting to avoid getting locked out.	05:40
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: i mean rebooting the client	05:42
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO - screw it - caution to the wind. rebooting.	05:42
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO - I'll try. I'll be back in 5. Thanks for the ssh-agent may be caching mental link.	05:43
Diplomatico	HitsujiTMO, now i can't access to the folders on those mounted files, i type cd and the output is: bash: cd: boot: No such file or directory	05:45
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: whats the output of: ls -l /mnt/tmp2/boot	05:46
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: sounding like a corrupt iso	05:46
Diplomatico	ok , i did that cd command in the tmp1 folder, have to try it in tmp2 in another iso...	05:47
tucemiux	anyone know how safe it is to install software via ppa??	05:47
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hitsujiTMO	tucemiux: depends on the ppa. some are good, some are awful	05:48
Diplomatico	It happened the same in the tmp2 folder, i have 5 in total.	05:48
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: all different iso's or the same iso mount 5 times?	05:48
Diplomatico	And the thing is that mounting using the file explorer mounts it with no problem , and i can see the files and everything.	05:48
Diplomatico	I don't think it's corrupted.	05:48
tucemiux	hitsujiTMO, im thinking about security, I want to install java jdk from a ppa using webupd8	05:49
Diplomatico	5 different isos.	05:49
Diplomatico	5 diferent tmp folders.	05:49
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: remount them, but use only option: -o loop no uid or anything	05:50
Ronie	how to upgrade to a newer kernel?	05:50
Diplomatico	ok...Do i have to umount them first?	05:50
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: yup	05:51
Diplomatico	Ok...	05:51
hitsujiTMO	tucemiux: webupd8 is pretty safe. that pulls java from the oracle site using the same method as the flash-installer	05:51
Diplomatico	I'm mounting as root, is it ok?	05:51
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: that should not matter at all. its still a read only file system	05:52
Diplomatico	Ok...	05:52
k3pl3r16	evening everyone	05:52
The_Woodsman	if i wanted to FTP into my ubuntu machine from my windows one, how exactly would i do that? I usually use winSCP when getting files from my school but I don't know my laptop's host name and stuff to make the connection	05:52
Diplomatico	Watch this!! in the tmp1 folder I get this output when i umount the iso: umount: backbox-3.13-i386 is not mounted (according to mtab)	05:53
Diplomatico	Evening kepler.	05:53
tucemiux	hitsujiTMO, thanks for the 411, you did the nsa a good service	05:53
Diplomatico	But I could ls -l the files...How can it say is not mounted?	05:54
hitsujiTMO	huh?	05:54
hitsujiTMO	Diplomatico: sudo umount /mnt/tmp1	05:54
Diplomatico	Ok...	05:55
k3pl3r16	Diplomatico, is it mounted in a different place?	05:55
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: Evening, so, what brings you to ubuntu's help channel ?	05:55
k3pl3r16	like hitsujiTMO said maybe not tmp1	05:55
Diplomatico	I suppose it is mounted in tmp1, because there is were i can ls -l the files.	05:55
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, seeing if I can help out	05:55
Diplomatico	I could see the list.	05:55
k3pl3r16	Diplomatico, do you have a symbolic link to another dir?	05:56
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: Will, then I go back to lurking and learning.	05:56
Diplomatico	I don't know.	05:56
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, hahaha sometimes it's good to just sit back	05:56
Diplomatico	But now i did sudo umount /mnt/tmp1 and when I ls -l the folder it says 0 total.	05:56
Diplomatico	So it seems that it mounts in that folder	05:57
k3pl3r16	Diplomatico, when you mounted it did you use sudo?	05:57
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Diplomatico	Not sudo, i was at root.	05:57
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: It's been busy, and honestly, this is the first I have kicked back.	05:58
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, whats been happening? is there a pattern or something?	05:58
Diplomatico	And in the file explorer the folders tmp1 trough 5 the icon shows a lock.	05:58
k3pl3r16	BRB beer run	05:58
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Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: problem installs and updates mostly .	05:59
loki_	hey guys, quick and easy question. if I want to format a 3TB drive I can use gParted to do so, correcT?	05:59
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stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - restarted client. ~/.ssh/config remains uncommented. reconnect to remote server user@ip - it prompted for my private key password to decrypt but it still logged in without needing the config info. It's a little scary	06:05
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, haven't had any issues so far running 13.10 with backports	06:05
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, I did with my other laptop using a Haswell chip get random schreen freezes	06:06
k3pl3r16	screen	06:06
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: ok. don't uncomment. remove and try again.	06:06
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: nope. besides installs 13.10 is clean.	06:07
tucemiux	hitsujiTMO, the comment was just in case you wanted me to use that ppa in err	06:07
loki_	soo....gparted to format 3TB/4TB drive? is ok?	06:07
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: Random is tough to deal with ! What are your thoughts now ? Graphics ?	06:08
stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - woops - type-o. I meant "remains commneted"	06:08
hitsujiTMO	tucemiux: ahh. well all i can say anything from webupd8 is usually pretty solid	06:08
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, I got the intel driver installer and so far things are straight.	06:08
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, used to freeze on minimize to the launcher and you have to click on the icon	06:09
k3pl3r16	Now no worries	06:09
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: The people upstairs have done a bunch, a lot of efort gone into that layer.	06:09
K`zan	nevyn: catch ya on the morrow, appreciate your efforts to unconfuse me :-).	06:10
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, waiting to really test Mir when this becomes stable enough. I prefer testing on metal rather then just VM	06:11
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: Have ya seen the 13.10 graphics bragg postings ?	06:11
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, nah what is it? got link?	06:11
stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - thinking to kill ssh-agent on the client and see if that blocks.	06:12
tucemiux	hitsujiTMO, would you happen to know of a reliable ppa for eclipse?	06:13
hitsujiTMO	tucemiux: don't use eclipse i'm afriad	06:13
nevyn	mmm.	06:13
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: some; http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/hybrid-graphics-with-amd-and-nvidia-in-ubuntu-13-10-and-12-04-3/1144 ; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics ; http://rudrageek.com/linux-now-supports-hybrid-graphics-systems-ubuntu-13-10/ .	06:13
loki_	hey guys, question about disk utility. is there a way to gather the same information from command line?	06:14
tucemiux	hitsujiTMO, looks like there's an official eclipse ppa o.O	06:14
Jordan_U	loki_: Yes, though what command you run depends on what information you want specifically.	06:14
loki_	Jordan_U: I think SMARTCtl tells me most of the info I desire. was just curious more than anything else.	06:15
Bashing-om	loki_: sure, there is nothing one can do from the GUI that can not be done from terminal, what info ya looking for ?	06:15
loki_	Bashing-om: basically the same info that disk utility displays	06:15
stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - Killed ssh-agent. not showing up in htop. config commented out, reconnection to server just the same, straight into it.	06:17
hitsujiTMO	tucemiux: i think thats actually outdated tho	06:17
sammy	hey ubuntu-ers from the southwestern US- what mirror do you use? I am having no luck finding a speedy mirror :(	06:18
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: rename ~/.ssh/config reboot and retry	06:18
Bashing-om	loki_: Ya mean somethings like df -h , sudo fdisk -l , sudo parted -l ??	06:18
loki_	possibly. and smart data. disk serial number, etc.	06:18
_joey	I have a third party deb package with no documentation. How do I find out what dependencies are required for the package?	06:20
Bashing-om	loki_: I would have to look hard, how about smartmontools (??) .	06:20
loki_	Bashing-om: ok cool. already have that installed :D.	06:20
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, looks like rudrageek is talking about AMD and NVIDIA	06:21
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, I have a newer Intel integrated	06:21
loki_	next question...seeing something odd from fdisk. it's likely because the drives are formatted as GPT, but could someone take a look a what I am seeing and provide feedback?	06:21
Flannel	_joey: dpkg --info package.deb	06:22
Bashing-om	loki_: fdisk does not deal with GPI, try Gdisk .	06:22
Bashing-om	loki_: GPT*	06:22
loki_	Bashing-om: The drive was formatted with gParted, was just looking at the output of fdisk -l	06:22
loki_	let me try to DL gdisk	06:22
_joey	Flannel: thanks	06:23
loki_	Bashing-om: getting error 2	06:24
Ben64	loki_: pastebin full command and error	06:24
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: I do not have much experience with the Intel chips. but a lot hs been done with sswitchable graphics, Not real sure how much effort has gone into Intel, as Intel works so close with us.	06:24
loki_	Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830473/	06:25
stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - this is getting weird. renamed config config.bak, rebooted, ssh user@ip -> prompt for passphrase to decrypt private key and connected.	06:25
Bashing-om	loki_: Error 2 from what ?	06:25
loki_	Bashing-om: check the paste	06:25
hitsujiTMO	loki_: you need to specify the drive with gdisk	06:26
loki_	just ran gdisk -l	06:26
loki_	hitsujiTMO: oooohhhh	06:26
loki_	let's check again	06:26
Bashing-om	loki_: k	06:26
whoDc	is there a way to roll back a failed upgrade?	06:26
whoDc	12.04 decided to upgrade to 12.10 :) now i cant use the installer.. :D and a lot does work.	06:27
whoDc	apparently it done a partitial upgrade	06:27
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, always been good to me. I do not do gaming on a massive scale so ....	06:27
Bashing-om	loki_: give gdisk a target as in -> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda see what results.	06:28
loki_	Bashing-om: yep. getting the info now :D	06:28
loki_	thanks guys!	06:28
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: Intel are great chips, lots of muscel to make them so - They got to protect thier market share too !	06:30
stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - haha. renaming ~/.ssh, now that blocks access!	06:30
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: what about just ~/.ssh/config ?	06:31
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: I personally prefer AMD, Little guys had to work harder, Good products to get where they are now.	06:32
stuppy	it worked just find with rename of config to config.bak + reboot. just had to enter key decryption passphrase.	06:32
stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - find* fine	06:33
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, I'm a cheap bas$*rd	06:33
k3pl3r16	Bashing-om, lol	06:33
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: ok, so maybe the config is ignoreing the "#"'s ?	06:33
Bashing-om	k3pl3r16: careful, my better half reserves the term for me .	06:38
stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - wow. I have 7 entries in config, all grouped by commented sections. It would have to not be phased by any of the non-matching syntax that my descriptive comments are using then.	06:42
stuppy	@HitsujiTMO - I don't think it can ignore the '#'s - while $shh user@ip connects, $shh host(from config file) hangs when it's #ed. somehow, it knows where to look independent of config.	06:47
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Myrtti	hi	07:10
MarGul	whats the easiest way to share a 25GB file over the network if I use xubuntu? I have been looking at samba but cant really get it to work. Is there not any share folders? I have xubuntu on both of the devices where I want to transfer the file	07:23
gordonjcp	MarGul: scp	07:24
MarGul	gordonjcp: When I goodle scp I get the feeling like it is some kind of ssh? I guess I could just install ssh on my desktop to drop off the file. But with ubuntu you can just "share" folders, thought there were something similar for xubuntu	07:26
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MAD_51	Morning!	07:37
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lifechamp	how to use SSD as cache, not just for programs, but for server storage of most recent accessed data, such as photos, etc?	07:54
meet_praveen	how can i upgrade python2.6 to 2.7 in ubuntu 10.04 ?	07:54
aeon-ltd	meet_praveen: if it's not on the repos you need to find a ppa or compile it	07:57
stuppy	@hitsujiTMO - checked in with the openssh irc again and it seems ssh-agent is storing my key fingerprints $ssh-add -l with reboot persistence, which seems to be identifying the appropriate key without the need for ~/.ssh/config's directions. Thanks for your time and assistance.	07:57
meet_praveen	aeon-ltd: how?	07:57
aeon-ltd	meet_praveen: google for ppas	07:57
aeon-ltd	!compile \| meet_praveen	07:58
ubottu	meet_praveen: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall	07:58
hitsujiTMO	stuppy: sweet, glad you got to the bottom of it	07:58
aeon-ltd	meet_praveen: or you can wait til it is in the ubuntu repos	07:58
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kry	Hallo	08:04
kry	Is there any way to change where Ubuntu Software Centre installs the programs?	08:04
echopleks	any help for a noob struggling hard with a live USB Xubuntu install?	08:07
kry	I guess no helpers are online atm	08:09
echopleks	ah well	08:09
echopleks	it is late :)	08:09
kry	Where you live, perhaps	08:11
kry	It's bright daylight in Europa, so I would found it strange, if there was no one here.	08:12
whoDc	u cant change it kry	08:13
aeon-ltd	echopleks: what's the current situation?	08:13
whoDc	if space issue: apt autoclean	08:14
whoDc	try clear /tmp too	08:14
whoDc	or apt clean	08:14
nimfatest	chuj	08:14
whoDc	rm -fr /var/cache/apt/archives/*	08:14
whoDc	too	08:14
nimfatest	jebać was	08:14
kry	So where does it install by default?	08:15
echopleks	aeon-ltd, I keep getting the message "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" after trying to boot from the USB	08:15
Falus	Siemanko	08:15
whoDc	/usr/lib	08:15
echopleks	ive tried multiple drives, checked the MD5 sums, tried xubuntu 13.10 and 12.10	08:15
echopleks	i should note i had 13.10 working for a couple weeks but after a reboot i wasnt able to SSH in or get the video card to post	08:15
Falus	Co tam ptaszki	08:16
Falus	?	08:16
echopleks	so i decided id start again and re-install...so formatted the USB i was running it off of as well as the Live USB, did everything the same	08:16
whoDc	12.10 is just as bad echopleks :) for me heh	08:16
kry	If I copy the whole directory, will the program still be able to run?	08:16
aeon-ltd	i'm gonna be honest, you've tried all the ideas i would've suggested. sorry i can't help	08:16
echopleks	damn	08:16
whoDc	kry: no but u can make symlinks	08:16
echopleks	thats been the same with everything ive found in forums too	08:16
echopleks	seriously at a loss here	08:16
kry	What is that?	08:17
aula	Hii	08:17
Falus	mango	08:17
Falus	fuck	08:17
aula	Anybody talk spanish?	08:17
aeon-ltd	echopleks: no cd drive?	08:17
kry	!symlinks	08:17
aeon-ltd	aula: nada	08:17
aeon-ltd	!es	08:17
ubottu	En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.	08:17
Falus	Dick	08:17
echopleks	nah; well i have one i could plug in but no CD's or DVDs to burn	08:17
Falus	Dick	08:17
Falus	Fuck	08:17
aula	Jujuju	08:17
FloodBot1	Falus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:17
aula	Okok	08:17
whoDc	ln -s target linkName	08:18
Falus	I have big dick and you have small dick	08:18
aeon-ltd	echopleks: i'm thinking the usb port might be the problem	08:18
echopleks	aeon-ltd also tried virtually every USB port	08:18
echopleks	and made sure to avoid 3.0	08:18
aeon-ltd	that was the worst troll/spam performance i've ever witnessed	08:18
kry	So I link the targets .deb to a linkname I give?	08:19
leeyaa	hello guys	08:19
leeyaa	do you know how to fix this error for apache NC::MemCache: libapr_memcache.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ?	08:19
echopleks	i notice that even after flashing the drive and resetting CMOS on my MOBO, i still see "ubuntu" as a boot option	08:19
whoDc	no Kry: u can install something elsewhere if compile urself. then make symbolx link	08:19
echopleks	is that normal?	08:20
echopleks	or could its persistence be an issue	08:20
whoDc	leeyaa: yes :)	08:20
kry	But basically it would be simplier to uninstall USC and do everything manually? Will then it ask where I want to install programs?	08:21
leeyaa	whoDc: any tips? :)	08:21
leeyaa	im not sure what am i missing	08:21
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whoDc	export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/my_library/path.to.so	08:21
whoDc	leeyaa: check also: /etc/ld.so.conf	08:23
whoDc	and add there then need run ldconfig after	08:23
kry	How often do I have to reinstall Ubuntu?	08:23
whoDc	kry: why do u want to reinstall ubuntu? :)	08:24
leeyaa	whoDc: so add whereever is my lbrary to ld.so ?	08:24
whoDc	ye leeyaa	08:24
kry	In case it goes wrong, as windows does sometimes	08:25
whoDc	kry: u can usually fix problems thou rather than take the easy option out ie reinstalling waste of time and effort	08:25
whoDc	you have "repair" option anyhow... boot choice. where it will load min then can login to the "messed up sys" to repair it	08:26
kry	I have to reinstall Windows at every half year, but if Ubuntu manages to encounter that slowment like it does not (slow, sometimes freezes at booting, etc.), I'm better off at reinstalling, rather than trying to fix it manually	08:27
kry	Especially, since I'm not Linux interpid	08:27
whoDc	heh? reinstall easy option out.	08:27
whoDc	there is a sort of recovery option now within setup Kry: if ur that lazy, which will leave ur personal files alone :)	08:28
whoDc	i havent reinstalled windows for years :) and never linux.. yet :)	08:29
kry	I was thinking about making a system drive (10-50 GBs) and a files drive (500GBs), and if there are some problem, I will just format the system drive, and the rest remains untouched	08:29
kry	That's why I want USC to install files on the 500GB drive instead the small one.	08:29
whoDc	there is no need for above: as mentioned ^^ u there is option to user files be ... it will detect existing install then give the option, which in effect is sort of recovery option	08:30
Ben64	its very rare that you'll need to install because of some problem. that really is a windows thing	08:30
leeyaa	whoDc: thanks ill try that out after i fix my damn connection to that vm	08:30
Ben64	the last time i installed was in 2006	08:31
whoDc	better fix, rather than reinstall :)	08:31
kry	Another thing is, I have an another hard drive, which is formatted (and preferably remain, as it is moved between computers) in NTFS (WinXP), will I have to know something quirky about it?	08:32
Ben64	ntfs works fine	08:33
kry	Okay, thanks.	08:34
kry	I'm just starting to change to Ubuntu, but it's not user friendly at maximum.	08:34
whoDc	if its empty anyhow why not reformat?	08:34
WHAT_UP	i have a zip file with 1 text file in it. why is unzip -fj blah.zip just telling me "Archive: blah.zip" rather than actually inflating the text file?	08:34
Ben64	kry: ubuntu is very friendly, just different than windows	08:35
WHAT_UP	nevermind that question	08:35
leeyaa	whoDc: hm still doesnt start	08:35
kry	You mean, by constantly editing sudoers or etc/fstab just to change something simple?	08:35
whoDc	leeyaa: post line used and path	08:35
leeyaa	D_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0	08:36
leeyaa	this is where library is located	08:36
Ben64	kry: normally never have to edit either of those	08:36
whoDc	LD_LIBRARY	08:36
leeyaa	yes with LD sorry	08:36
leeyaa	ah lol	08:36
kry	At least Win has tooltips everywhere, in Ubuntu I have a lot of things I suck it finding the first, and have to look it up on the internet after a few hours.	08:36
leeyaa	ffs vm dropped again	08:36
leeyaa	so yeah i used LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0	08:37
whoDc	did u do ldconfig after leeyaa	08:37
leeyaa	and then ldconfig	08:37
leeyaa	is there a way to confirm it ?	08:37
whoDc	ye cant remem off hand thou :)	08:38
whoDc	had simular issue last week with eggdrop :) to get the lib to load	08:38
leeyaa	sigh	08:39
leeyaa	;p	08:39
whoDc	printenv / env	08:39
whoDc	should show if the path is added to envoirment	08:40
leeyaa	by env you mean library ?	08:40
whoDc	no thats envoirment	08:41
whoDc	LD_LIBRARY_PATH /pathto/lib	08:41
whoDc	leeyaa: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location	08:42
geirha	alternatively you can create a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ containing the line: /usr/local/apr/lib	08:44
leeyaa	whoDc: hm so it should be LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0 ?	08:44
leeyaa	im using very old ubuntu btw if that matters	08:44
geirha	then after running ''sudo ldconfig'', all programs will be able to find that apr_memcache library	08:44
geirha	leeyaa: minus the filename	08:44
whoDc	ye: but make sure u keep the existing paths there too	08:45
kry	Thanks for the help, bye.	08:45
geirha	LD_LIBRARY_PATH should contain a list of directories, not paths to library files	08:45
leeyaa	i see	08:46
leeyaa	right so ill add a file to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ does it matter name >	08:46
geirha	leeyaa: must end with .conf. apr.conf perhaps	08:46
leeyaa	i dont have such directory btw	08:47
whoDc	just add direct to ld.so.conf then	08:47
leeyaa	and add path, not actual lib yes ?	08:48
whoDc	y	08:48
leeyaa	same thing ;p	08:48
whoDc	hm :> pass then	08:49
geirha	leeyaa: After editing ld.so.conf, you need to run sudo ldconfig	08:51
leeyaa	geirha: i did	08:51
geirha	leeyaa: and if you run ldconfig -p do you see the library?	08:52
Temper	so i installed ubuntu on a N2550 atom cpu system.. after grub it's just a black screen..	08:52
leeyaa	geirha: no	08:54
leeyaa	the weird thing is on another vm apache starts without adding this	08:55
syntroPi	how can i launch an app from lenses? it always just searched for files???	08:56
geirha	leeyaa: file /usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0 /bin/bash does file say that both /bin/bash and that so file are 64 bit ELF?	08:56
leeyaa	no it says it cant find it	08:57
faugusztin	Temper: that board has that cursed IGP it seems	08:57
geirha	leeyaa: can't find what?	08:57
Temper	faugusztin, i would of said it is the worlds biggest POS $%#^#$%&	08:58
leeyaa	ERROR: cannot open `/usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0'	08:58
Temper	but seriosuly, i installed ubuntu server which is no gui	08:58
leeyaa	thats the error geirha	08:58
Temper	how the hell is the video messed up?	08:58
leeyaa	and yes there is no memcache.so.0	08:59
leeyaa	there is just memcache.so	08:59
faugusztin	Temper: probably running framebuffer ?	08:59
geirha	leeyaa: ... oh, so it's actually an apache module	08:59
faugusztin	Temper: if you can ssh in, try to boot it in true text mode : http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode	09:00
Temper	well in grub i press e and remove load_video and gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode to no avail	09:00
geirha	leeyaa: but where did libapr_memcache.so.0 come into the picture?	09:00
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leeyaa	strace, when i try to start it	09:00
Temper	i wish i could ssh in.. i would be done.. it didn't find my wireless card on setup either..	09:00
leeyaa	it is veery weird setup, not mine	09:00
Temper	i am trying to setup a firewall.. so no screen will be needed..	09:01
leeyaa	geirha: so you think it is apache module problem ?	09:01
faugusztin	Temper: did you try boot parameter text ?	09:01
Temper	no	09:01
Temper	do i put that after the linux ro?	09:01
faugusztin	Temper: at the place you would have "quiet splash"	09:02
geirha	leeyaa: just install it then. sudo apt-get install libapr-memcache0	09:02
Temper	that's just it there is no quiet splash	09:02
leeyaa	i tried that	09:02
leeyaa	apache is compiled from source	09:02
faugusztin	Temper: then yes, after ro	09:03
Temper	no go	09:03
faugusztin	Temper: you could also try vga16fb.modeset=0	09:03
geirha	leeyaa: did the package install? you still have no libapr_memcache in ldconfig -p output?	09:03
Temper	faugusztin, same spot?	09:04
faugusztin	Temper: yes	09:04
Temper	it seems like none of these options are actually doing anything..	09:05
faugusztin	Temper: just a question - you are trying to use 32-bit OS, right ?	09:05
Temper	faugusztin, nope 64bit	09:05
Temper	it is a 64bit cpu	09:05
faugusztin	Temper: GMA 3650 is 32-bit only	09:05
Temper	i do not need graphics what so ever	09:06
Temper	like nada..	09:06
Temper	text is great.. if it would work	09:06
faugusztin	sure, but it seems it doesn't want to do anything in 64-bit mode ?	09:06
Temper	grub works.. and the loader works until after the swap message..	09:06
Temper	i guess i can try that but the nfs kernel server has issues in 32bit mode	09:06
faugusztin	or you could put in a external graphics card, probably a PCI card (most N2550 boards have that slot)	09:06
Temper	faugusztin, nope..	09:07
Temper	this is a real gem..	09:07
faugusztin	Temper: ah, another one :)	09:07
faugusztin	Temper: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/blank-screen-after-boot-4175474380/ video=LVDS-1:d	09:07
meet_praveen	aeon-ltd: i installed 2.7 but how to change default compiler ?	09:07
Temper	i have had this pos for like a year and haven't used it at all because of these issues	09:07
faugusztin	Temper: GMA 3600 kernel DRM driver in 3.3.0 (as included in Mageia) always assumes a LVDS panel is present (as would be the case on netbooks but not on mini-ITX boards) and for some reason it defaults to a 1920x1080 panel.	09:07
Temper	but i just want a firewall..	09:07
leeyaa	geirha: ill check that in a minute	09:08
CarlFK	I need to use my laptop webcam to take pictures - what app can do that nicely?	09:08
leeyaa	not sure if it installed, system is very old	09:08
Temper	i just need the screen to get it setup enough for networking	09:08
faugusztin	Temper: try that video option above, maybe it will help	09:08
imghost	!cheese \| CarlFK	09:09
Temper	and i am not sure why the realtek wifi wasn't detected	09:09
leeyaa	geirha: this is the exact error i was getting http://apaste.info/4qUL	09:09
Temper	faugusztin, no i tried all the suggestions you had	09:09
imghost	!find cheese	09:09
Temper	and a bunch online	09:09
faugusztin	Temper: video=LVDS-1:d too ?	09:09
ubottu	Found: cheese-common, gir1.2-cheese-3.0, libcheese-dev, libcheese-doc, libcheese-gtk-dev	09:09
Temper	what i don't understand is the install worked	09:09
CarlFK	imghost: thanks	09:09
Temper	faugusztin, not the video thing.. same spot?	09:09
faugusztin	Temper: yes	09:09
imghost	CarlFK, yw	09:10
deulizealand	im newbie	09:10
leeyaa	geirha: is there a way to add that .so file to system so it can find it ?	09:10
leeyaa	or something like that	09:10
faugusztin	Temper: and if the installer works, you could boot in the live enviroment, chroot in your existing instalation, install openssh server, set it to start on boot, win ? :)	09:10
deulizealand	please help me to learning	09:10
hitsujiTMO	!manual \| deulizealand	09:11
ubottu	deulizealand: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/	09:11
faugusztin	leeyaa: LD_LIBRARY_PATH	09:11
CarlFK	hmm, ok, now that I think abuout it.. I need an app that makes my web cam like a bar code scanner and spits out numbers as it notices a barcode. dupes are fine	09:12
leeyaa	faugusztin: and how to check if it was successful ?	09:12
leeyaa	ldconfig -p ?	09:12
faugusztin	leeyaa: well, a more complete answer :	09:12
deulizealand	!manual \| hitsuji ok thanks for answer , im from indonesia	09:12
ubottu	hitsuji ok thanks for answer , im from indonesia: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/	09:12
faugusztin	leeyaa: 1) LD_LIBRARY_PATH is the enviroment vairable where it should search for libraries	09:13
faugusztin	leeyaa: 2) you can also set it permanently via conf files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/, then do sudo ldconfig	09:13
Temper	faugusztin, you are the F'IN MAN	09:13
Temper	that video=blah blah bs worked	09:13
leeyaa	faugusztin: yeah i tried that and it didnt show up in ldconfig -p but ill check again	09:13
faugusztin	leeyaa: 3) test it using ldd executable, where executable is the file which requires that library, if it shows you the correct location it works	09:13
leeyaa	executable?	09:14
leeyaa	so apache for example ?	09:14
Temper	faugusztin, any idea how to make that video=blahlbah permenate?	09:14
faugusztin	leeyaa: well i don't know which binary requires your library	09:14
leeyaa	faugusztin: this is a short output from strace	09:15
leeyaa	http://apaste.info/4qUL	09:15
ian__	how do I register a nickname	09:15
DJones	!register \| ian__	09:15
ubottu	ian__: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode	09:15
faugusztin	Temper: /etc/default/grub i think, there is LINUX_CMDLINE or something like that, add your command to that	09:15
ian__	thanks	09:15
leeyaa	and im getting it when i try to start apache	09:15
faugusztin	Temper: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX it is	09:16
deulizealand	where you from	09:16
faugusztin	leeyaa: no idea, never did perl with apache :)	09:17
Temper	faugusztin, is that in /boot/grub/grub.conf?	09:17
leeyaa	darn ;p	09:17
faugusztin	Temper: edit /etc/default/grub and then update-grub	09:18
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Temper	faugusztin, i was a real linux champ back in like 2000 with slackware..	09:21
Temper	since then i feel like a noob	09:21
Temper	ok that worked	09:21
Temper	thanks	09:21
oins	I like to configure my new laptop hardware. Is there a good page, where I can check if the chosen hardware component is well supported in linux?	09:34
DJones	!hcl \| oins	09:35
ubottu	oins: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection	09:35
ian_5426745	Is there a help channel on autokey	09:37
hitsujiTMO	!alis \| ian_5426745	09:38
ubottu	ian_5426745: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list http	09:38
ian_5426745	thanks	09:38
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kandinski	I have messed up the keys for unity (things like moving windows around)	09:52
kandinski	how can I reset the defaults?	09:52
Layke	I have [ MONITOR 1][MONITOR 2] If I move my mouse from right to left, once it passes between one monitor, it wraps over and goes to the outter edge of the opposite monitor	09:57
Layke	How can I stop this? It's really frustrating. I'm sure it's a feature somewhere..	09:58
k1l	Layke: do they have the same resolution? and what ubuntu and what desktop do you use?	09:58
Layke	12.04 LTS. Yeah, identical monitors	09:59
Layke	Oddly, just launched nvidia-settings, and it says: The NVIDIA X driver on Layke:0.0 is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page.	10:00
Layke	Never seen that before. I'll have to run now. I'll try and reinstall with nvidia 304 when I get back	10:00
Layke	Andthen I'll see what the mouse skipping from one desktop to another issue could be	10:01
Layke	I think this describes the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2083893	10:01
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trip_	Hello ppl	10:04
trip_	anyone talking?	10:05
k1l	#ubuntu-offtopic is for talking :)	10:05
e^0	is it possible to install a printer only for a particular user and not all ?	10:07
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sgo11	hi, just upgrade to 13.10 by using do-release-upgrade command. Now, I can not see my login manager. black screen. please help....	10:09
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solofight	whats the best way to back up my entire old hard disk to my laptop ?	10:20
solofight	i tried rsync and it has made several errors and missd files	10:20
solofight	i ran rsync as sudo	10:21
sgo11	my default login manager is gdm. now, I installed lightdm and then switch to lightdm. I can see the login screen. But I can not enter my DM. I picked lxde. now, the login screen is spining forever.	10:24
leeyaa	hey geirha about my library thing, no i cant install that package, it doesnt exist	10:28
sgo11	hm... there is another problem. I have nvidia-current installed. but I am not using nvidia driver. why? how to install nvidia driver properly in ubuntu 13.10? thanks.	10:30
geirha	leeyaa: lsb_release -sd	10:34
PinkFoxFur	want to install ubuntu on 2009 white macbook but trackpad does not work when booting from live cd. usb mouse works but not trackpad any suggestions ??	10:34
leeyaa	geirha: dapper, 6 something	10:35
razor_	install from the livve cd then search for the campatible upgrades	10:35
greys	PinkFoxFur: think if you install as it is, there will be a way to configure the touchpad later	10:35
k1l	leeyaa: that is way out of support.	10:35
k1l	!eol \| leeyaa	10:35
ubottu	leeyaa: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	10:35
geirha	leeyaa: ouch, so 8 year old Ubuntu. :)	10:35
leeyaa	geirha: i know -.-	10:36
greys	PinkFoxFur: you will probably have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually	10:36
leeyaa	thats what they gave me, they cant upgrade it	10:36
geirha	leeyaa: Well, it's a bit hard to help you further with that.	10:36
leeyaa	well if only i know how to fix that library	10:36
geirha	leeyaa: you should've upgraded 6 years ago	10:36
PinkFoxFur	ok so if i do a full ubuntu install what do i add to my xorg.conf file ??	10:37
leeyaa	geirha: i will upgrade for sure, that wasnt my system. this is what i got when i arrived here	10:37
geirha	leeyaa: You'll probably have to download and build the sources for it yourself	10:37
leeyaa	geirha: source for memcached /	10:37
k1l	leeyaa: a new install is way faster and more secure	10:37
leeyaa	k1l: atm this is not my goal, i just need to start it on this testing vm	10:38
leeyaa	because they want it ;p	10:38
geirha	leeyaa: source for libapr_memcache	10:38
k1l	leeyaa: that is so old, i bet it wont work with modern lbs	10:38
leeyaa	k1l: yes it is a real pain to update it	10:38
cfhowlett	leeyaa, that's so old, even Moses would upgrade ...	10:38
leeyaa	lmao	10:38
leeyaa	geirha: where can one get the source for libapr_memcache ?	10:39
geirha	leeyaa: Here apparently: http://www.outoforder.cc/projects/libs/apr_memcache/	10:39
leeyaa	thank you geirha	10:39
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PinkFoxFur	after install could I just run x -configure ?? or will i nee to create an xorg.conf file from scratch ??	10:42
leeyaa	rofl geirha i asked them why they cant upgrade	10:45
leeyaa	answer: if it is working, dont touch it	10:45
leeyaa	insane people :D	10:46
gimnazjum	Nigga	10:46
gimnazjum	ELOOO!!!	10:46
gimnazjum_	niger	10:46
cfhowlett	!ops\|gimnazjum,	10:46
ubottu	gimnazjum,: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!	10:46
Ronie1	hello	10:49
PinkFoxFur	hi.	10:50
Ronie1	what is a kernel in an OS	10:51
cfhowlett	!kernel\|Ronie1,	10:51
ubottu	Ronie1,: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)	10:51
greys	PinkFoxFur: install as usual, run x -configure but essentially you will need to create entry for a touchpad	10:51
greys	PinkFoxFur: there are plenty of settings and a flag that will specify your device to be a touchpad (MatchIsTouchpad "on")	10:52
Ronie1	greys:hello	10:53
greys	PinkFoxFur: more info here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126526/macbook-pro-touchpad-optimization-12-04-lts	10:53
greys	hi Ronie1	10:53
Ronie1	greys:hello	10:53
PinkFoxFur	thank you for the help and info greys	10:53
greys	no problem PinkFoxFur, hope you get it working	10:54
PiNinja	Hey, after some googling I've decided to come here. Whenever I try to play a video through VLC my entire computer freezes, but the video sound plays. Any ideas what is going on?	10:55
PinkFoxFur	me too because i really want to get usibg ubuntu again :)	10:55
Ronie1	PiNinja:which distro are you using?	11:02
PiNinja	Ronie1: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.	11:03
Elico	there was this nice guy here that needed help and I started "dd" with him but I was gone for some work...	11:03
PiNinja	Ronie1: I'm about to preform a test to see if it is playing .mp4 files that causes the crash. .mp3 and flash seem to work just fine.	11:03
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ActionParsnip	PiNinja: tried other players, like gnome-mplayer?	11:04
Ronie1	PiNinja: use mplayer instead for paying video files, vlc runs heavy on ubuntu and crashes, mplayer is light.	11:05
solofight	i wanted to move data from one disk to another - so used the mv and faced an interdece transfer failed --- then i read this http://insanelabs.com/linux/linux-cannot-move-folders-inter-device-move-failed-unable-to-remove-target-is-a-directory/ and understood what mv does is not an actiual move of data	11:05
solofight	so how to move data between two disks ?	11:05
PiNinja	ActionParsnip: I have not. I have just very recently installed this OS.	11:05
ActionParsnip	solofight: copy the data, paste the data	11:05
PiNinja	Ronie1: I'll try mplayer.	11:05
ActionParsnip	Ronie1: not had an issue with vlc crashing personally	11:05
solofight	ActionParsnip: why i prefer move is that if some copy fails i see that data in the source - i need not watch /follow the logs for failure..	11:06
solofight	ActionParsnip: no other way ?	11:06
PiNinja	Ronie1, ActionParsnip: I should note that I have a decent amount of RAM and a semi-decent video card.	11:06
ActionParsnip	solofight: could use rsync / grsync	11:06
Ronie1	PiNinja:what processor are you using? single or dual core?	11:07
PiNinja	Ronie1: Quad.	11:07
solofight	ActionParsnip: when i used rsync it missed data ! and i was not able to verify the transfer of data with md5 as there are directories	11:07
ActionParsnip	solofight: is their a logging option on the command?>	11:07
Ronie1	PiNinja: try gnome mplayer , and then see whether it crashes or not.	11:08
PiNinja	Ronie1: AMD A8-4500M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics <- My processor.	11:08
Ronie1	PiNinja: sudo apt-get install mplayer	11:09
ActionParsnip	gnome-mplayer may as well get a nice GUI on it :)	11:09
Ronie1	or download from software center	11:09
PiNinja	Ronie1: Already done, give me a moment.	11:10
chris___1	hi	11:13
chris___1	quit	11:13
ChristW	Anyone here who can help w/ a video driver that seems to be stuck in software rendering mode?	11:13
ActionParsnip	ChristW: can you give details of the setup / OS etc	11:13
ChristW	I've googled around quite a bit, but haven't been able to find anything pertinent.	11:13
ChristW	ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831410/	11:15
ChristW	Any other info?	11:15
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ChristW	ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831414/	11:16
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ActionParsnip	ChristW: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue	11:18
ChristW	ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831424/	11:18
ActionParsnip	ChristW: Trusty support is in #ubuntu+1 til release day	11:18
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ChristW	ActionParsnip: Ok, I'll go over there then, thanks!	11:18
ActionParsnip	np	11:18
PiNinja	So, the problem persists with both mplayer and vlc.	11:21
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PiNinja	My computer somewhat freezes, I am unable to move my mouse and everything seems to just.. stop. However, music from my browser continues up until the computer restarts itself. (Via a script so that I wouldn't have to hard reboot after each test.)	11:21
PiNinja	The problem seems to only happen when I try to play video, but not mp3	11:22
k1l	PiNinja do you have the right codecs? is the video file corrupted?	11:22
PiNinja	k1l: I have tried a few different videos.	11:22
PiNinja	k1l: How would I know if I have the right codecs?	11:23
k1l	!codecs \| PiNinja	11:23
ubottu	PiNinja: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	11:23
trip_	Hello anyone here?	11:31
ActionParsnip	PiNinja: did you try a few output methods in VLC for video?	11:33
FK_lennart_potte	hello	11:40
hewhomust	hi	11:41
FK_lennart_potte	does anyone know how to get /dev/dsp to be non-blocking	11:41
FK_lennart_potte	alsa docs claim:	11:41
FK_lennart_potte	options snd-pcm-oss nonblock_open=1	11:41
FK_lennart_potte	this doesn't seem to work, or I can't get the options to stick	11:41
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FK_lennart_potte	(and no more modules.conf like in the past, no idea where anything is anymore)	11:41
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PiNinja	I seem to have discovered a problem (or I am at least closer to). I found a thread on the ubuntu forums with a similar issue. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1935080 After following the the advice to turn HW overlay off everything played as normal.	11:43
PiNinja	Would this have to do with my video driver?	11:43
ActionParsnip	PiNinja: possibly, sounds likly	11:43
PiNinja	ActionParsnip: How would I go about fixing this?	11:43
PiNinja	ActionParsnip: Turns out that thread has a page two. They've listed a solution. So I withdraw my previous query.	11:44
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maxvi	hi everyone! how can I return result of find command to variable in bash script?	11:51
repozitor	iptable, you told me this command	11:52
repozitor	reject any outgoing connection, but it still limited users can access to network,	11:52
repozitor	sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT	11:52
ActionParsnip	maxvi: VAR1=`find $HOME \| grep test`	11:52
iptable	repozitor: yes. it stops all outgoing connections for a user.	11:53
iptable	sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT	11:53
iptable	minus I, not A	11:53
repozitor	iptable<20:01>:	11:54
repozitor	repozitor: to block outgoing connections for a specific user: sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT	11:54
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iptable	repozitor: ok. if you got other rules in place, use -I instead, that will override other rules you may have	11:54
hawthorn	helloooo everyone :)	11:54
iptable	repozitor: what is the problem with it anyways? if that's the only rule, or the first rule, it will stop that user from accessing any network connections	11:55
repozitor	iptable, i used -I, but users can access to network	11:55
repozitor	for example they can ping 8.8.8.8	11:55
repozitor	as i told you, i would like to block ANY outgoing network activity!	11:56
repozitor	i guess, this command just manipulate /etc/resolv.config!	11:57
repozitor	remove real nameserver(correct) to localhost nameserver(incorrect)	11:58
denny_20000	excuse me,anybody has used i2f?	11:58
Ben64	!anyone \| denny_20000	11:58
ubottu	denny_20000: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.	11:58
cfhowlett	!anyone\|denny_20000,	11:58
ubottu	denny_20000,: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.	11:58
cfhowlett	Ben64, too quick for me again ...	11:58
Ben64	sorry	11:58
repozitor	iptable, what is wrong with me?	11:59
cfhowlett	Ben64, :)	11:59
repozitor	can someone tell me how to block ALL outgoing connection of ssh users?	12:00
ActionParsnip	repozitor: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/blocking-outgoing-ssh-using-iptables-748696/	12:01
linux	I have problem with glide and magic lamp effect. it says cannot activate them	12:02
Dors	hi	12:03
iptable	repozitor: no. iptables is a linux firewall	12:03
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Dors	How get Ubuntu into Windows?	12:04
cfhowlett	Dors, don't.	12:04
cfhowlett	Dors, install dual boot	12:04
cfhowlett	!dualboot	12:04
ubottu	Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot	12:04
Dors	:(	12:04
repozitor	iptable, so we can't block user's network?	12:04
Dors	I want inti Windows please	12:04
Dors	into	12:04
DJones	!install \| Dors	12:04
ubottu	Dors: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate	12:04
Dors	no	12:05
iptable	repozitor: yes, we can. hold on	12:05
PiNinja	ActionParsnip: Results!	12:05
cfhowlett	Dors, no? ok. Install virtualbox on windows. put ubuntu in a virtualbox.	12:05
DJones	Dors: If you want to run Ubuntu inside windows, your best bet is to install something like virtualbox and install inside that, however be aware its likely to be a lot slower than a proper installation	12:05
PiNinja	ActionParsnip: So, turns out I either had the wrong video driver or an outdated one. I uninstalled the fglrx thing (still new to this) and proceeded to install the new driver from the manufacturer's website. Rebooted and tried watching a video. Everything works. Thanks for your help.	12:06
Dors	I want into Windows	12:06
Ben64	Dors: you should explain what you mean by that	12:07
iptable	repozitor: also add this: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT	12:08
Dors	I want Ubuntu into Windows like Colinux	12:09
repozitor	iptable, but i need to block ALL, seems this command block all icmp!	12:09
cfhowlett	Dors, use colinux?	12:10
iptable	repozitor: use this command and confirm that ping isn't working any more	12:10
iptable	repozitor: if it still works, you are doing something wrong.	12:10
Dors	I want DE	12:10
Ben64	Dors: then you're in the wrong channel. this is #ubuntu, for Ubuntu support only. What you want is not Ubuntu.	12:10
Dors	no	12:11
cfhowlett	Dors, hasn't been upgraded in 2 years --- good luck with that	12:11
Dors	I wnat Ubuntu and its Ubuntu channel	12:11
repozitor	iptable, how to block users to run ifconfig?	12:11
repozitor	i want they can't read ifconfig output!	12:11
iptable	repozitor: users will not be able to run ifconfig if they don't have root/sudo access anyways. they will be able to see IP assignment, but that's it	12:11
cfhowlett	Dors, ubuntu is not colinux. you can install in virtualbox.	12:11
Dors	netbook	12:11
iptable	repozitor: it is not a security feature (blocking users from knowing their IP address)	12:12
cfhowlett	Dors, just for fun= sentences?	12:12
repozitor	iptable, sure, they can't change ifconfig configuration, but if they use ifconfig, they can see other interfaces ip	12:12
Dors	what?	12:12
cfhowlett	!details\|Dors,	12:12
ubottu	Dors,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."	12:12
iptable	repozitor: ifconfig, ip and other tools can tell the user what IP it is...	12:12
iptable	repozitor: so? users should be allow to see all interfaces. there is nothing wrong with users seeing interfaces and IPs	12:13
repozitor	i want to hide them for limited users :D	12:13
Dors	Ubuntu like colinux where get?	12:13
repozitor	iptable, but i want to deny them to accessing ifconfig, so how to do it?	12:13
cfhowlett	Dors you can get ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com	12:13
maxvi	how can I use sed command without file input? I want use some string	12:13
Dors	I said like colinux	12:14
Ben64	maxvi: \|	12:14
k1l	Dors: dont ask again: no colinux with ubuntu	12:14
DJones	Dors: There isn't an UBuntu like colinux	12:14
iptable	repozitor: this is plain wrong. there is no reason to deny user from accessing ifconfig. and even if you do, they can see interfaces by typing in ip addr sh	12:14
iptable	repozitor: and in owrst case by doing cat in /proc. users can know the IP address. live with it. it's normal and it is not a security threat	12:15
Dors	Its what? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/colinux-portable-ubuntu-for-windows/	12:15
cfhowlett	Dors, ubuntu is NOT colinux. sorry.	12:15
iptable	repozitor: not sure what you are trying to achieve here anyways. If users are blocked using netfilter firewall (iptables) from accessing the network at all, what's the point of blocking ifconfig...	12:15
Dors	my link?	12:15
iptable	Dors, wubi	12:16
k1l	Dors: then ask them for support. that is not officially ubuntu	12:16
k1l	iptable: wubi :(	12:16
cfhowlett	iptable, wubi is dead and no longer supported	12:16
DJones	Dors: Thats not an official release, its not something thats supported here, you'll need to find their own support channel to get help with that	12:16
iptable	yes, though it is 12.04 and will give him an ubuntu with some kind of GUI...	12:16
cfhowlett	iptable, thus the virtualbox suggestions ...	12:17
repozitor	iptable, sure, got it	12:17
repozitor	sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT	12:17
Dors	http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableubuntu/ 1 year old not bad	12:18
repozitor	i don't know why this command don't block users icmp ping packets	12:18
iptable	cfhowlett: ++ good idea! Dors, use virtualbox with seamless mode. gives you full OS with a seamless integration into windows	12:18
repozitor	they still can ping 8.8.8.8	12:18
Dors	no	12:18
Dors	i founded better	12:18
k1l	Dors: its dead. see the link to the project in the last link	12:18
iptable	repozitor: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner --uid-owner 1000 -j REJECT - worked for me	12:19
cfhowlett	Dors, we are not going to help you with co-ubuntu/linux/anything. for netbook, install lubuntu. we can help with that. Otherwise - look elsewhere. sorry..	12:19
iptable	repozitor: are you putting UID of user in the UID field?	12:19
iptable	repozitor: or trying the actual name of user? should be UID number	12:19
Dors	ok, u can go	12:19
repozitor	iptable, i put their usernames like user1	12:19
repozitor	how to find uid of users?	12:19
iptable	repozitor: since the parameter is --uid-owner - try the UID	12:19
iptable	repozitor: try cat /etc/passwd	12:20
iptable	repozitor: you can also create a group, and put the users you want to limit into that group and set: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner --gid-owner 1000 -j REJECT	12:22
iptable	repozitor: note: the number after gid-owner is the group ID. get it from cat /etc/group	12:22
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iptable	repozitor: although I could give you better suggestion/help if you told me what ACTUALLY you are trying to achieve with that box.	12:23
repozitor	iptable, but -m icmp doesn't work for me, i don't see any error	12:25
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iptable	repozitor: what do you mean you "don't see any error"? with correct UID of user in the field, it does work. ping generates destination host unreachable afterwards. cannot ping.	12:25
repozitor	iptable, can i describe my steps?	12:26
repozitor	so tell me what was wrong with me, ok?	12:26
iptable	repozitor: ok	12:27
iptable	repozitor: first thing wrong is that you are trying to perform system administrator configuration of linux without knowing how to use it from command prompt in the first place. but do tell what you have done so far	12:27
repozitor	1-i have created a username named "user1" by this command	12:28
repozitor	adduser —home /home/user1 user1	12:28
iptable	do continue	12:29
repozitor	2- checking user1 uid	12:29
repozitor	cat /etc/passwd -> uid for user1 is 1001	12:29
repozitor	3-after that i have login with my admin access, then i run this command	12:30
repozitor	iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner —uid-owner 1001 -j REJECT	12:30
iptable	ok, and then?	12:30
iptable	how did you test?	12:30
repozitor	4-running this command	12:30
repozitor	iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner —uid-owner 1001 -j REJECT	12:30
repozitor	test what?	12:30
iptable	step 5, test with ping.	12:31
nullck	repozitor, su - user1 and try ping	12:31
ghost_	hello	12:31
iptable	hello	12:32
repozitor	iptable, sorry, disconnected	12:32
repozitor	so i login to user1 account, and ping google, and see RTT is 80ms	12:32
iptable	repozitor: how DID you login as user1 account?	12:32
repozitor	by ssh user1@ip	12:33
iptable	repozitor: that actually worked? for a start you didn't configure a password for the user1	12:33
iptable	repozitor: once you login, run: whoami - make sure you ARE user1.	12:34
repozitor	iptable, when you adduser some user, it require it password	12:34
repozitor	ok	12:34
iptable	repozitor: no, it does not ask for a password on ubuntu	12:34
repozitor	whoami tell me i'm user1	12:34
iptable	repozitor: sudo useradd --home /home/test test - this will not ask for a password. it just creates the user.	12:35
repozitor	iptable, but ssh user1@ip ask for password.	12:35
iptable	repozitor: so how did you login as user1 using ssh if you didn't set password for user1?	12:35
repozitor	i use adduser NOT useradd!	12:35
Ben64	adduser does ask for a password...	12:35
whoDc	su user1; passwd newpasshere	12:35
repozitor	exactly	12:35
iptable	oh, used adduser. sorry. misread.	12:35
iptable	repozitor: can you please give me output of iptables -L -vn	12:36
iptable	repozitor: and iptables -t nat -L -vn	12:36
Ben64	btw, i tried it iptable, and pings still do go through	12:37
Ben64	it stops dns lookups, but ping works fine	12:38
iptable	Ben64 no, they don't.	12:38
Ben64	i assure you they do	12:38
iptable	the -p icmp I asked to put it does stop pings	12:38
repozitor	iptables -t return:	12:38
repozitor	iptables v1.4.12: option "-t" require an argument	12:38
iptable	Ben64 - I assure you they don't.	12:38
Ben64	it surely does not iptable, i'm not new to linux or ubuntu, and what you have suggested does not work how you describe	12:38
iptable	ok, do hold on	12:38
nisim	hello	12:39
iptable	Ben64:	12:39
iptable	655 ping 8.8.8.8	12:39
iptable	656 sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner --uid-owner 1000 -j REJECT	12:39
iptable	657 ping 8.8.8.8	12:39
FloodBot1	iptable: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	12:39
nisim	i have philipsfree vents x56 i downloaded ubuntu no audio i can not hear nothing please helpmeto resolve the issue thanks in advance	12:39
iptable	Ben64: first ping worked, second ping doesn't work anymore. the rule does stop pings for user UID 1000	12:40
repozitor	iptables -L -vn return:	12:40
repozitor	pktbytestargetprotoptinoutsourcedestination	12:40
repozitor	14858REJECTicmp—**0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0	12:40
Ben64	iptable: for you perhaps	12:40
iptable	Ben64: on 1 router and 2 PCs. Ubuntu 14.04, 12.04 and 13.10.	12:41
nisim	i have philipsfree vents x56 i downloaded ubuntu no audio i can not hear nothing please helpmeto resolve the issue thanks in advance	12:41
iptable	repozitor: ok, let's try this: iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -j REJECT	12:41
iptable	repozitor: then try ping as any user you wish. it will return destination host unreachable	12:42
repozitor	iptable, is there needing to clear old iptables data?	12:42
Ben64	iptable: that works fine	12:42
iptable	repozitor: you "should*, but you are overwriting them with using -I anyways (first rule works first), so that's fine. iptables -F will clear. you can do that to by safe	12:42
iptable	Ben64: in that case you are either doing something wrong with -m owner or you don't have that feature (how?)	12:43
repozitor	iptable, yes but that reject all ping, admin need to ping :D	12:43
iptable	repozitor: confirm that reject all ping works please. once you do that, we will clean the rules with -F and try to figure out why your -m owner isn't working	12:44
nisim	i have philipsfree vents x56 i downloaded ubuntu no audio i can not hear nothing please helpmeto resolve the issue thanks in advance	12:44
repozitor	pinging hostnames and ip's was closed in all account, admin and limited users	12:44
Layke	Hi. I have this problem where my mouse jumps from the right screen to to the futherest edge on left screen when I transition between monitors. I can't find out where to disbale. It's like this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2083893	12:44
Layke	Someone posted saying: (settings>window manager>advanced>wrap workspaces	12:45
iptable	repozitor: please do ls -l /bin/ping	12:45
Layke	I am on 12.04 LTS.	12:45
Ben64	iptable: ah, you've solved it, it's suid for some reason	12:45
iptable	Ben64: I was suspecting that. But for some reason the binary is suid here as well, but the iptables rule does stop it. go figure ...	12:46
repozitor	-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 34740 Nov 8 2011 /bin/ping	12:46
iptable	repozitor: sudo chmod -s /bin/ping	12:46
Ben64	that will stop everyone but root from using ping, which is what he wants, so... yeah	12:47
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repozitor	setting pollicy for running ping or not, isn't a good way!	12:47
iptable	Ben64: yeah, pretty much.	12:47
repozitor	probably there are a better way to do that	12:47
Ben64	well what you want to do is strange :)	12:48
iptable	repozitor: what Ben64 said	12:48
repozitor	blocking network activity is prettier than blocking ping command	12:48
iptable	repozitor: why you want root to ping and non-root not to ping?	12:48
Ben64	the iptables command should block everything else that isn't suid	12:48
repozitor	iptable, why iptablee do what you want exactly, but don't for me?	12:48
Ben64	iptable must have a different setup, maybe selinux or something like that	12:49
repozitor	iptable, did you ever block network traffic for sample user by iptables?	12:50
iptable	Ben64: standard install only. weird, no? works on 13.10 and 14.04 100%. that's how I limit my kids...	12:50
Ben64	well i'm on 12.04	12:50
repozitor	iptable, i'm on 12.04!	12:50
iptable	repozitor: yes. for my kids. iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner 1001 -j REJECT blocks all internet traffic for user 1001.	12:50
iptable	repozitor: on 12.04 for some reason ping seems to run fully as root, which means that this block will not affect ping. ping auto-runs as UID 0 :/.	12:51
iptable	repozitor: ping on later versions seems to work correctly, i.e. uses root privileges to only gain access to open icmp socket, but executes itself as UID user.	12:52
iptable	repozitor: so use that rule to block everything apart from the command ping (the rule will also block icmp and ping for normal users, just not the single command PING), and remove suid from ping to fix that.	12:53
iptable	repozitor: I still don't know what is the end result you are trying to achieve...	12:53
iptable	Ben64: on my 12.04, I don't have suid on ping, but then again, I don't execute ping as non-root haha. box is purely for pppd anyways.	12:53
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lix	is it possible the last update creates a locale error? - is there a fix somewhere?	12:55
lix	I get the following error: locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory	12:55
iptable	repozitor: although I don't see a reason why you would want to allow SSH to a box and disallow any outgoing network connections from that box alone and only for certain users. so your request is a bit odd.	12:55
iptable	repozitor: and once again: PING is NOT a hacker tool...	12:56
repozitor	iptable, seems ubuntu is buggy, because when i use	12:56
repozitor	iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner 1001 -j REJECT	12:56
repozitor	before this command both hosnames and ip's can be pined from user1	12:56
repozitor	but after this command just ip's can be pinged from user1	12:56
iptable	repozitor: that is not a bug	12:56
repozitor	iptable, that is bug, be sure	12:56
iptable	repozitor: after this command, DNS requests no longer work. you have blocked outgoing connections, so DNS lookups do not work here	12:56
jpds	iptable: Yo	12:57
iptable	jpds: yo	12:57
repozitor	iptable, after this command all of udp and tcp connection will be cloes?	12:57
iptable	repozitor: so that IS per design and configuration. it is not a bug.	12:57
repozitor	i want something like this,	12:57
iptable	repozitor: yes. all tcp and udp OUTBOUND connections will be stopped. that's what you have requested originally.	12:58
iptable	repozitor: only. ping tool has suid on it, so it can run itself as root, going around that rule. that's why you can still ping IPs. remove suid from ping command, problem solved.	12:59
repozitor	iptable, in addition if iptables block icmp pings, i hit to my end	12:59
iptable	repozitor: iptables DOES block icmp for the user you specified, but the PING command is set to execute as root, using a special "suid" flag, no matter what user executes it. Remove that flag from ping and problem is solved.	12:59
repozitor	iptable, and i should do this for 1000 command, that isn't bad idea :D	13:00
iptable	repozitor: 1000 command?	13:00
repozitor	bin/bash	13:01
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iptable	ooh, wait. I might hae a modifier flag for ping	13:01
repozitor	how do you put / as first character msg on channel?	13:01
iptable	repozitor: here: sudo chmod 4755 /bin/ping	13:02
iptable	repozitor: I normally put a space as first character, then /	13:02
iptable	/like this	13:02
repozitor	inserting a space before /?	13:03
repozitor	/bin/bash	13:03
repozitor	yes, works fine	13:03
repozitor	this answer is better than your iptables answer :D	13:03
nisim	downloaded ubuntu 12.04 to philips freevents x56 no audio driverplease help	13:03
iptable	repozitor: so the iptables block rule with UIDs (the full block rule). it blocks icmp as well. THEN to fix ping, execute: sudo chmod 4755 /bin/ping - and ping will work as expected too	13:03
iptable	repozitor: now you are being rude. my iptabes one does work well and does what you want it to	13:04
repozitor	iptable, takes it easy, i'm joking, if you don't like, so i will stop it :)	13:04
repozitor	iptable, which ubuntu version?	13:05
iptable	repozitor: and I even found a full workaround now which works. iptables block rule + chmod 4755 /bin/ping - all OUTGOING connections will not be stopped on 12.04	13:05
nisim	12.04 ls	13:05
iptable	repozitor: I got 14.04, 13.10, 12.04, depends where.	13:05
repozitor	as you know, i add my user in that way	13:06
repozitor	can they change/modify other files instead of their home?	13:06
iptable	Ben64: found the difference. seens chmod 4755 /bin/ping makes ping works as expected while the '+s' makes it run as root to end.	13:06
repozitor	i want all limited users, just can read/write to their home, now writing to somewhere esle.	13:07
repozitor	not*	13:07
iptable	repozitor: users can modify any files which they have permissions to modify. So any file with the user's owner/group and write permissions for owner/group. also any file with write permissions to "other"	13:07
Bo1a	is dropbox a good choice for linux/ubuntu or is there something else more suitable?	13:07
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: its fine, does what it says on the tin	13:07
repozitor	ok, got it	13:07
k1l	Bo1a: dropbox runs fine. so does ubuntu one	13:07
iptable	repozitor: what you are looking for is a chroot environment for users. what DO you want users to be able to do?	13:07
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: we can't possibly comment on 'suitable' as there is no details	13:07
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: suitable for what exactly?	13:08
cfhowlett	Bo1a, ^^^ well said	13:08
repozitor	iptable, just writing c ource code, and then run them, JUST THIS	13:08
repozitor	c source*	13:08
repozitor	c, sometimes assembly code	13:08
iptable	repozitor: so you want users to be able to write code in c/assembly and compile it in gcc and run it.	13:08
repozitor	yes	13:08
Bo1a	ActionParsnip: just for basic use, I meant 'suitable' for linux	13:09
iptable	repozitor: a development box... normally, you would let them write C code on their machines, in their favourite environment (like eclipse), and commit the code to the box only. not code using vim on that box...	13:09
iptable	repozitor: but if that is your preferred choice, are the users supposed to share some code?	13:10
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: yes, there is the package nautilus-dropbox and will give dropbox functionality	13:10
Bo1a	ActionParsnip: ok, thank you	13:10
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: saying 'suitable' doesnt tellus anything	13:10
iptable	repozitor: if not, look at debootstrap and chroot or even at lxc. that would isolate users nicely (even if not foul-proof)	13:10
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: there is a client, so it will work. That has nothing to do with suitability	13:10
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: some people dont like dropbox as the transfer between systems is not secured	13:10
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: but you havent said anything like that...so we cannoy comment	13:11
repozitor	iptable, i need to keep their code, all of the users code is same as to each other.	13:11
repozitor	dunno what is debootstrap	13:11
repozitor	iptable, they write same code, this is not a big projects to use svn or ..	13:12
iptable	Bola: or use mega.co.nz with megatools if you prefer. it's apparently safe. apparently.	13:12
Bo1a	ActionParsnip: are there any cross platform (win/lin) that has secure transfers and works like dropbox?	13:13
Bo1a	iptable: I will take a look	13:13
iptable	repozitor: so you want them all to write code for the same application? that means they will at least need to have access to each-other's files	13:13
ActionParsnip	Bo1a: ubuntuone is not bad, there are a few. Dropbox is probably easier if you have the system already setup	13:14
repozitor	iptable, they can't read the other users files	13:14
iptable	repozitor: it's a dirty way to do things, but yeah. iptables block + the chmod on ping should be sufficient for you. if you got a malicious developer anyways, that linux box is the least of your worries...	13:14
Bo1a	ActionParsnip: yes I already use it between 3 pc's and phones, so dropbox it is	13:15
iptable	repozitor: look at debootstrap and chroot or at LXC anyways. could be good for you. http://glonek.co.uk/tips-tricks/ubuntu-debootstrap-and-chroot/ - you could chroot users when they ssh in and remove any tools you don't want them to run from the chroot altogether.	13:15
* iptable oscar-uniform-tango. need a coffee.		13:16
repozitor1	unstable connection, sorry	13:17
iptable	replay <iptable> repozitor: look at debootstrap and chroot or at LXC anyways. could be good for you. http://glonek.co.uk/tips-tricks/ubuntu-debootstrap-and-chroot/ - you could chroot users when they ssh in and remove any tools you don't want them to run from the chroot altogether.	13:17
repozitor1	hhhm, fine	13:18
repozitor	iptable, final question is	13:23
repozitor	how to set iptable with this rules for always?	13:23
repozitor	i think, but shutting dowb ubuntu, this rules will cleared, right?	13:24
iptable	repozitor: first: iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules	13:24
repozitor	iptable, so iptables read iptables.rules at startup?	13:25
iptable	repozitor: no. then: put a script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ - call it iptables.load or something. make it executable	13:25
iptable	repozitor: in the script #!/bin/bash \\ /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/iptables.rules	13:25
iptable	repozitor: replace \\ with line feed	13:25
repozitor	don't understand last line	13:27
iptable	repozitor: you do know line feed right? the enter key	13:27
repozitor	no	13:27
repozitor	#!/bin/bash	13:28
iptable	repozitor: you do press ENTER when you send in IRC. that is line feed	13:28
repozitor	no no	13:28
iptable	repozitor: yes, that was first line. and put the restore bit in the second line	13:28
repozitor	which where i should put this line?	13:29
repozitor	/etc/iptables.rules	13:29
repozitor	in .bash?	13:29
repozitor	/home/user1/.bash?	13:29
iptable	repozitor: no!!!! as I said, in /etc/network/if... just wait...	13:30
repozitor	lol	13:30
iptable	repozitor: run this as root: echo -e '#!/bin/bash\n/sbin/iptables-restore /etc/iptables.rules' > /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables.load; chmod 755 /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables.load; iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules	13:31
iptable	repozitor: that will do it all for you. But I do suggest you try to learn linux.	13:31
repozitor	which book?	13:31
iptable	I did not mention book...	13:32
repozitor	needing a good and summry	13:32
repozitor	so how to learn it?	13:32
ActionParsnip	repozitor: look around online for examples, read man pages	13:32
iptable	repozitor: google for some tutorials and guides and look at man pages for things	13:32
iptable	repozitor: man ping; man iptables; etc...	13:32
* cfhowlett likes "linux for Dummies" ...		13:32
repozitor	iptable, ok, i will do as your suggestion.	13:33
iptable	repozitor: I have written a very old and outdated guide on setting up a linux server, but you need to get familiar with the general terms first. here is it nevertheless (a bit buggy for today's setups and may contain stuff that could be done better, but hey. live and learn). http://glonek.co.uk/old-site/my_work.php	13:34
iptable	the guide was for ubuntu 9.04 haha. But someone recently installed from it (modifying the bits that didn't fit - the LEARGNING experience) and said it still worked.	13:35
Cigrits	anyone familiar with munin know how to make a plugin that had warning and critical lower limits.	13:46
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Binksley	1	14:00
junka	2	14:00
Binksley	oops sorry cursor in wrong terminal	14:01
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murlidhar	hi all can anyone tell me if there is any patch for unity for the window dodging feature	14:08
nisim	philips freevents x59 downloded ubuntu 12.04 can not find the audio drivers no voice is coming please help	14:16
nisim	philips freevents x59 downloded ubuntu 12.04 can not find the audio drivers no voice is coming please help	14:20
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iptable	nisim: looks like no one at this time knows the answer. but a quick google shows loads of people having issues with linux and philips freevents range ...	14:28
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tiblock	Hi. Is there some console GUI for archive manager? Like "aptitude" for "apt-get" and "htop" for "top"?	14:34
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ActionParsnip	tiblock: if you install unp, you can extract any archive with one command	14:37
ActionParsnip	!info 2a	14:37
geirha	tiblock: Maybe midnight commander can do what you want..? btw, they're often referred to as TUIs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_user_interface	14:37
ubottu	Package 2a does not exist in saucy	14:37
ActionParsnip	!info tarman	14:38
ubottu	Package tarman does not exist in saucy	14:38
tiblock	ActionParsnip, geirha, thank you	14:38
garylabronz	how do i lock the screen, when my lid closes. Without using the gnome-panel/screensaver & lock settings ?	14:51
garylabronz	like pragmatically setting it	14:51
garylabronz	does upstart handle those events?	14:51
hitsujiTMO	garylabronz: thats acpid	14:52
Touhou11	I think upstart is deprecated anyway	14:52
garylabronz	upstart is deprecated? for what systemd ?	14:52
garylabronz	hitsujiTMO: thanks, ill look into it	14:53
hitsujiTMO	no upstart isn't deprecated	14:53
Pici	Touhou11: I think you're thinking of HAL.	14:53
Touhou11	I thought everyone was switching to systemd	14:54
hellknight	I just installed Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on my Core i5 4570 and the integrated HD4600 graphics. But I'm getting green screen while playing videos on VLC. Any remedies?	14:54
Pici	Touhou11: Ubuntu isn't. shrug	14:54
garylabronz	Touhou11: ubuntu wont, its canonical little bitch	14:56
garylabronz	it isnt that bad but for the CLA	14:56
Pici	garylabronz: mind your language and attitude please.	14:56
Touhou11	garylabronz: Heh. Shame, it's designed by Lennart Poettering who is revolutionizing lots of core architecture :)	14:57
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ActionParsnip	hellknight: have you tried different video output methods under the options?	15:00
karmahacker	hi Guys which firewall to install on ubuntu	15:00
ActionParsnip	karmahacker: one is already installed, iptables	15:01
karmahacker	ActionParsnip is a bit hard for me yet ))	15:01
prepangolin	How do I install Ubuntu12.04 on Macbook?	15:01
Pici	!firewall \| karmahacker	15:01
ubottu	karmahacker: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW \| GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. \| An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo	15:01
ActionParsnip	karmahacker: is the system always used behind a router?	15:01
Touhou11	karmahacker: nftables if you're using a recent kernel	15:02
karmahacker	something like UFW	15:02
ActionParsnip	karmahacker: you cna use ufw if you wish	15:03
karmahacker	but not UFW iforgot the name ( also 3 leters	15:03
ActionParsnip	!ufw	15:03
ubottu	Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW \| GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. \| An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo	15:03
dupingping86	Hello!	15:06
prepangolin	Hello buddy!	15:07
karmahacker	Mister Shapow help me last time(but my hdd is gone and there no logs of our conversation), i want to close all ports on my server vnc ports especislly and use vnc over ssh what should i allow in ufw ?	15:07
dupingping86	question	15:07
dupingping86	help me	15:07
dupingping86	how to create a debian package.	15:08
dupingping86	?	15:08
Pici	!newpackage \| dupingping86	15:08
ubottu	dupingping86: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring	15:08
dupingping86	ok	15:08
vela	q	15:08
dupingping86	ubottu ok!!!	15:08
vela	ok	15:09
prepangolin	How to install Ubunt LTS12.04 on Macbook?	15:09
MonkeyDust	!mac	15:09
ubottu	For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages	15:09
prepangolin	Thanks.	15:09
Touhou11	dupingping86: https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging	15:11
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repozitor	iptable, after i restart my client, limited users can access to network, i check iptables -L -vn and see there is no rule for avoid users from network activity.	15:12
repozitor	can someone tell me how to fix that?	15:12
prepangolin	ubottu, you are not human, I think.	15:13
ubottu	prepangolin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	15:13
repozitor	ActionParsnip, any idea?	15:13
theUserII	I'm using xfce... how can i get those propper scroll bars back.... this thing that autohides is not working well for me	15:13
leeyaa	do you guys know how to fix this library libaprutil-1.so -> libaprutil-1.so.0.2.8 ? i did fix most of my broken ones just cant find this one	15:14
nisim	philips freevents x59 downloded ubuntu 12.04 can not find the audio drivers no voice is coming please help	15:15
karven	Anybody online?	15:15
MonkeyDust	karven type /names to find out	15:16
Touhou11	nisim: What audio device does the laptop contain?	15:17
karven	Who knows ubuntu very much?	15:17
ActionParsnip	karven: the developers	15:17
MonkeyDust	prepangolin keep it in the channel please	15:18
Touhou11	nisim: Run "lspci -v"	15:18
dupingping86	Touhou11: Let's hit.	15:18
prepangolin	Here	15:19
dupingping86	Touhow11: I think that I can help you and you too.	15:19
karven	How to create a screen short	15:19
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ActionParsnip	karven: press Print screen on your keyboard	15:20
karven	Can it be sent in this chatting room	15:20
dupingping86	Good bye! ubuntu world!	15:21
dupingping86	let's see tommorow!	15:21
ActionParsnip	karven: use imageshack / tinypic etc	15:21
MonkeyDust	karven yes, use imagebin.com	15:21
karven	Ohh! What I need to learn is really .........	15:22
prepangolin	Goodbye linuxers.	15:24
karven	I use windows 7 as well as Ubuntukylin,But the download speed in ubuntukylin is really slow,why?Can it be more quick?	15:24
prepangolin	See you all.	15:24
karven	what?	15:24
ActionParsnip	Ubuntukylin = chinese ubuntu	15:24
karven	yes	15:24
ActionParsnip	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin	15:24
karven	you know that?	15:24
ActionParsnip	karven: I have the web, I can appear to know everything	15:25
ActionParsnip	karven: how do you connect to the web? 3G Wireless? Wired?	15:25
MonkeyDust	karven and Google knows you secretly are a cat	15:25
karven	Sorry,I'm Chinese senior high school student	15:25
karven	So I can only understand few simple sentence	15:25
karven	I use wired	15:26
LockeAnarchist	karven: do you are using cellphone internet?	15:26
karven	Yes	15:27
karven	4G Wireless	15:27
LockeAnarchist	karven: what is your device?	15:27
LockeAnarchist	to connect	15:27
karven	It must be more slow than wired	15:28
karven	Bye	15:28
ActionParsnip	karmahacker: if you run: sudo lshw -C network what is the Ethernet chip you use?	15:29
karmahacker	lshw: command not found ActionParsnip	15:30
ActionParsnip	karmahacker: its in a default install	15:30
ActionParsnip	karmahacker: sudo apt-get install lshw	15:31
karmahacker	ActionParsnip what is for ?	15:31
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ActionParsnip	karmahacker: it lists the hardware in your system.....	15:32
ishwon	hi folks	15:32
ishwon	a question. is it possible to give 'su' rights to one user, to be able to switch account to only one other account/	15:33
karmahacker	ActionParsnip yes, but how it macth with my firewall questin ?	15:33
ActionParsnip	ishwon: if they have the password for the account they can su to it, you need thepassword of teh account you are su'ing to	15:33
K4k	What's the proper way to express if /dev/sda; then ....; elif /dev/hda; elif .....; fi using the parted-auto option in a preseed.cfg file?	15:33
ActionParsnip	karmahacker: if your network access is running slow, we need to know the Ethernet chip so we can investigate	15:34
karmahacker	ActionParsnip i guess it is karven asked about that )	15:35
helmut_	hi	15:36
K4k	er, sorry, I mean the partman-auto section, not parted-auto :D	15:36
jamie_	I heard that the support for 10.04 LTS server is going to be extended past April now. Is that right?	15:37
Jin	hi,dear	15:38
MonkeyDust	jamie_ http://ubuntuone.com/434GupdpZzDds9LCEcPyH5	15:38
Jin	i have some problem about ubuntu system security.	15:38
Jin	please help me	15:38
sunmoon	hi all	15:39
sunmoon	how do I determine what version of xubuntu i am running?	15:41
MonkeyDust	sunmoon lsb_release -sd	15:41
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sunmoon	thank you, much appreciated	15:42
jamie_	MonkeyDust: thanks	15:42
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kc9iid	anyone know how to change grub with grub customizer in ubuntu 13.10? I have been unable to do it.	15:42
tzhuang	Hey guys. Anyone familiar with the GNU assembler AS?	15:43
tzhuang	I'm trying to assemble code for the HC12 (.s19).	15:43
tzhuang	According to the man pages, there's a -m68hc12 option.	15:44
tzhuang	But when I try to run it, I get "as: unrecognized option -m68hc12"	15:44
fer755	--hc68hc12 ?	15:46
tzhuang	fer755: same error	15:47
tzhuang	fer755: unrecognized option	15:47
fer755	tzhuang no idea then	15:50
ActionParsnip	kc9iid: what do you want to change?	15:50
longshorej	I have autofs setup and integrated with LDAP. If the LDAP server is down when I bring another machine up, the only way to get the machine's autofs to work is to restart the autofs service after the LDAP server comes online. Ideally it would be able to attempt to communicate with the LDAP server on its own without having to intervene. Any ideas if that sort of configuration is possible?	15:52
Touhou11	tzhuang: Possibly the Ubuntu build of GAS doesn't support that architecture, there's a way to check but I forget the option	15:53
frozen_guest	hello, can anyone suggest me what should I do? i just did dist-upgrade and after some time of upgrading everything froze, last update was linux-image-3.8.0... and after it there is written Done. and nothing happens... should i just restart laptop or what?	15:54
geirha	Wouldn't be the first time a feature was omited/changed for a command, but the corresponding change in the man-page was forgotten	15:54
Pici	longshorej: I can't really provide details, but I was looking at an LDAP problem here recently and ran across nscd, which might help in your case. If anything, it might be enough to point you in the right direction: https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/NSS	15:55
Pici	longshorej: My issue ended up not needing nscd, so I can't really help further.	15:55
longshorej	Pici: Thanks for the thought. I am using nscd so maybe it's related, will take a look	15:56
Edic	moo	15:57
frozen_guest	hello, can anyone suggest me what should I do? i just did dist-upgrade and after some time of upgrading everything froze, last update was linux-image-3.8.0... and after it there is written Done. and nothing happens... should i just restart laptop or what?	15:57
kc9iid	<ActionParsnip> I'm trying to change grub screen from 640 x 480 to 1600 x 900(laptop default) and the background image, but the changes made in grub customizer, when saved, don't take effect when rebooting.	15:58
Walex	frozen_guest: it can take a long time compiling external kernel modules.	15:58
olsonea	Hi #ubuntu! I've got a noobish question that I've tried to resolve on my own. I am working with a Wordpress site installed at /var/www. My user is in the www-data group, and everything under /var/www is owned by www-data:www-data. The problem is to modify anything, create a new dir, etc, I still have to sudo foocmd. What am I missing?	15:58
Walex	frozen_guest: but that should be at most minutes.	15:58
frozen_guest	ok thanks	15:59
Scott1993phone	U	15:59
Walex	frozen_guest: the other possibility is that your machine has very little memory and is swapping like crazy	15:59
Walex	frozen_guest: another is that it is somehow waiting for some input.	15:59
MonkeyDust	olsonea on a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server	15:59
olsonea	MonkeyDust: yes, it's a server	15:59
olsonea	thanks	16:00
chairman_meow	hello	16:03
chairman_meow	I have a radeon gfx card	16:03
chairman_meow	I need to know the build date of the currently installed driver	16:04
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aaron	Anyone have any ideas as to why I have such a difficult time getting Tor to work on 13.10?	16:09
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reko888_	whats the best resolution to design a website for nowadays	16:10
Guest6767	When I run the start script it just pulls it up, no browser	16:10
reko888_	is it still 960px??	16:10
LoRez	reko888_: it's still "don't design a website for a specific resolution"	16:10
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reko888_	i see	16:11
reko888_	so make it responsive is what your saying?	16:11
Aaron17	Or could someone give me some advice as to how to go about properly downloading/installing Tor	16:11
tzhuang	I'm trying to install binutils-m68hc1x via apt-get	16:11
tzhuang	errr	16:11
tzhuang	rather	16:11
LoRez	how many different types of devices do you think people view websites via these days?	16:11
tzhuang	m68hc12-gasp	16:11
Aaron17	I mean, all i should have to do is download, extract and run start script correct?	16:11
LoRez	Aaron17: I believe the tor project has their own PPA	16:12
tzhuang	i get	16:12
tzhuang	The program 'm68hc12-gasp' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:	16:12
reko888_	gotcha haha	16:12
tzhuang	sudo apt-get install binutils-m68hc12	16:12
tzhuang	which I do	16:12
Aaron17	Downloading vidalia via the software center has caused problems as well	16:12
tzhuang	but when i try to run it, it tells me	16:12
tzhuang	The program 'm68hc12-gasp' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:	16:12
tzhuang	sudo apt-get install binutils-m68hc12 lol	16:12
Aaron17	LoRez, I've downloaded the package from Tor's site, just cant get it to work	16:12
Aaron17	LoRez, Would have still have to add the PPA, thats for downloading only for downloading isnt it?	16:13
LoRez	Aaron17: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian	16:13
phil-ns	reko888_: do some searching on css, particularily the viewport parameter	16:14
LoRez	Aaron17: I suggest option two.	16:14
Aaron17	LoRez, Haha, yes, I see that the very first line is do not use the packages :/	16:14
LoRez	Aaron17: it is "do not use the packages IN UBUNTU".... the tor project has their own debian/ubuntu package archives for updated packages to use.	16:16
Aaron17	LoRez, Yeah, i got ya. Cool deal	16:16
atpa8a	hello	16:16
atpa8a	does update-grub work for efi boot if i make changes to /etc/default/grub?	16:17
TJ-	atpa8a: Yes	16:17
Walex	frozen_guest: you can use kill it and restart the 'dist-upgrade' and it should be fine, but if you are in a GUI, you can check by opening a new console window and looking at processes and 'vmstat 1'	16:17
atpa8a	hmm	16:17
atpa8a	mine didn't...	16:17
atpa8a	i wsa getting 'volume (null)' stuff	16:18
Walex	reko888_: your questions on best size for websites has two different aspects to it...	16:18
Walex	reko888_: one is about the optical property of the site's text. You should aim at making it look good at the size in which it looks best.	16:19
reko888_	ok	16:20
Walex	reko888_: the other however is that most modern browsers finally can resize windows and scale graphical elements, so the second goal should be to make it look not bad no matter how it gets resized and scaled.	16:20
Walex	reko888_: this is important because nearly or even more than half of site viewers use tablets with screens very, very different from those of desktops.	16:21
Walex	reko888_: so for example all those iPad users with a Retina display will have the site rescaled in Portrait mode and wider than 960px etc.	16:22
lillo	help me please! and sorry for my english (im italian) yesterday iv upgraded my ubuntu from 11:10 to 12:04, but after restarting,these screen appeared... what i have to do?? maybe i have issues with apache? nanny? python? i dont know.... help!! and my ethernet doesnt work, only wifi connection	16:24
lillo	http://imagebin.org/289530	16:24
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cortexA9	hello	16:25
cortexA9	i wanna help to seeding ubuntu isos	16:25
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atpa8a	any clues on upgrade-grub/efi?	16:26
mrproper2	I have an Ubuntu setup with a static IP and I am defining dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 in the eth0 section but DNS isn't working.	16:26
MonkeyDust	cortexA9 use deluge or so	16:27
compdoc	mrproper2, what does this file contain: /etc/resolv.conf	16:28
TJ-	mrproper2: Check "man resolvconf", section "ifup" ... I think you'll find it is "dns-nameservers" (note the plural)	16:28
mrproper2	compdoc: Only comments, nothing else.	16:28
compdoc	have you rebooted?	16:28
mrproper2	Yes it's rebooted.	16:29
compdoc	mrproper2, what is the line in /etc/network/interfaces that you used?	16:29
mrproper2	tj-: Thta was it, plural.	16:29
ansrster	If I completely format over my windows 8 pre install will I still hqve the UEFI boot problems?	16:29
TJ-	mrproper2: It's a common mistake :)	16:30
reko888_	thanks walex	16:30
hask	afdafds	16:46
hask	oi	16:46
hask	oi	16:46
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Left_Turn	"" > file ... this is the best way to create blank file in terminal?	16:51
Left_Turn	with a lead echo i guess	16:52
imuser	Guys, I have Lubuntu 13.10 on an old desktop, and I like that it is faster than Ubuntu 12.04, BUT, I would like to download an older Adobe Flash Player being the online videos, like YouTube and Wimp.com don't work good. The reason I think the older version of flash will work is that I tried it with a puppy I had on a flash stick and it works with the older flash player. So, how would I get an older one installed on Lubuntu 13.10?	16:54
imuser	I mean the puppy was on a usb flash stick, sorry.	16:54
ActionPa1snip	imuser: you'll need it if your CPU is older	16:55
ActionPa1snip	imuser: you can use minitube to view youtube without flash :)	16:55
imuser	ya.. I really think that's the case. How do you do that?	16:56
ActionPa1snip	imuser: install it using software centre then run it	16:56
ActionPa1snip	imuser: or: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=89675	16:57
imuser	o.k. thanks guys	17:00
imuser	Is there a way to install an older version of Adobe Flashplayer too?	17:01
glitsj16	Left_Turn: that'll work, one alternative is using .. touch /path/to/new/empty/file	17:03
Left_Turn	oh thanks glitsj16	17:04
lucasrangit	when testing daily ISO images, is there a way to tell from within the environment what version is running or when it was created? i want to be able to differentiate. thanks.	17:05
imuser	Would the minitube let me watch other online streaming, such as wimp.com or hulu?	17:05
ActionPa1snip	imuser: i dnt believe so	17:08
ActionPa1snip	imuser: you need a non-sse2 flash plugin	17:08
imuser	what is that?	17:08
imuser	sorry don't know linux too well yet.	17:10
jhutchins	imuser: I	17:11
TJ-	lucasrangit: On the ISO itself, ".disk/info" ... not sure about within the running environment	17:11
jhutchins	imuser: I'm pretty sure that flash player is a single binary file. Figure out where it is and copy the binary from puppy to your Ubuntu installation.	17:12
ActionPa1snip	imuser: sse2 is not a linux specific thing	17:13
ActionPa1snip	imuser: its a feature in your CPU, or in your case, lacking	17:13
ActionPa1snip	imuser: so it would be a ting in Windows too	17:13
lucasrangit	TJ-: thanks! it turns out you can at least see that from within the live environment /cdrom/.disk/info	17:13
TJ-	lucasrangit: Yeah... I've loop-mounted the squashfs but can't see anything better	17:14
imuser	o.k. sooooo I download the older flash player that I saw for the puppy, and then how do I copy it to my Lubuntu installation? I am from windows and don't know how to do this in Lubuntu. sorry	17:14
frew	does anyone know how I can do the monitor configuration command? I don't have a menu due to my choice of window manager and gnome-control-center gives an error when I use t	17:15
TJ-	frew: "man xrandr"	17:15
venky_	I have a ubuntu based distro installation where I am unable to see HT.	17:15
whod	imuser: why are u installing an older version of flash player? :) anyhow	17:15
venky_	Would any one know about enabling HT?	17:15
frew	TJ-: well I was hoping to use the gui	17:15
frew	TJ-: I've used it before and had it work, though this is the first time with this machine	17:16
imuser	whod, because viewing online video streaming doesn't work on my old desktop. It worked when I plugged in a puppy flash disk which I put an older flash player on	17:17
frew	ah, arandr works	17:18
frew	TJ-: thanks for the hint	17:18
SchrodingersScat	imuser: not sure if you'll have any luck with hulu, but youtube-dl might work for wimp.com	17:18
imuser	what's youtube-dl?	17:18
whod	hm odd: not seen that :) have seen however. drm crap ..	17:18
sofdarkness	youtube-dl is very good video downloader	17:19
sofdarkness	to download a video with youtube-dl type this on terminal: youtube-dl link of video	17:20
ravi_	hi, im trying to send files over a bluetooth 3.0+hs +wifi dongle with obex, but i only get slow transfer speeds (<80kByte/s), how can i get faster transfer speeds (>1 MByte/s) ?	17:20
imuser	so how do I copy the older flash I found online to my installation?	17:20
lobila	hello everyone, I'm using a youtube av downloader add-on on firefox. every time it finishes downloading the video, it goes on to create a file "aac.error.log"..the latter process jams the computer until it gets finished. and it's even worse when it doesn't. sometimes the file isn't created and the computer becomes unusable due to the jam.	17:21
lobila	can I get rid of the creation of this file?	17:21
sofdarkness	lobila, use youtube-dl to download videos of internet on Ubuntu	17:22
lobila	sofdarkness, I might have already installed it, but really forgot how to use it	17:22
sofdarkness	lobila, type this on terminal: youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuColajv5dE	17:23
sofdarkness	lobila, e.g. youtube-dl link_of_video	17:23
sofdarkness	lobila, http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/documentation.html	17:24
lobila	sofdarkness, thank you! it seems pretty easy..I'll try it :)	17:25
sofdarkness	lobila, :)	17:25
glitsj16	lobila: not to stop you from using youtube-dl, but what is the actual error in that aac.error.log?	17:27
lobila	glitsj16, the error is that it jams my computer every time it gets (or doesnt get) created. sometimes it takes a while and it doesnt get created at all, but the computer gets jammed	17:29
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glitsj16	lobila: yes i understand, but is there any error reported in that file so you can try fixing it, or contact the add-on dev to report it	17:32
lobila	I've got another problem. when I use a particular wireless network, I cannot access freenode.	17:32
lobila	glitsj16, I never checked those files. maybe I should :)	17:32
lobila	glitsj16, it says this: "Error: For audio extraction form this video format, you need to install and configure FFmpeg (http://www.ffmpeg.org/download.html) from addon's settings."	17:33
lobila	not sure if I'm not mistaken..was ffmpeg the one that was replaced by another?	17:34
glitsj16	lobila: well you might just try to install what it expects, ffmpeg is in the regular repos	17:34
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lobila	glitsj16, to my surprise, ffmpeg is already installed and newest version	17:35
glitsj16	lobila: did you configure the add-on as mentioned in the error?	17:35
lobila	glitsj16, I have no idea how to do it, and I don't even need AAC format..that's why I wanted to get rid of the error	17:37
lobila	I've got another problem. when I use a particular wireless network, I cannot access freenode.	17:38
lobila	is there a way to solve this?	17:38
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SonikkuAmerica	!13.04	17:38
ubottu	Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Supported ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring	17:38
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miguelangello	I installed itunes on ubuntu 12.04 LTS with wine but when i try to open the program there is a message "iTunes cannot run because some of its required files are missing. Please reinstall iTunes" somebody know the solution for it?	17:40
Brutus\|	what is the location to find harddisks in the console? I found sdb1 / sdb2 / sdb5 but if they are mounted, where are they mounted to?	17:41
Brutus\|	sdb1 = linux, sdb2 = extended, sdb5 = linux swap	17:41
jirido	j #lxde	17:41
lobila	glitsj16, thank you for all your help! maybe I go on to use simply youtube-dl..	17:42
glitsj16	lobila: any error in your irc client log?	17:42
TJ-	Brutus\|: "mount" will show all currently mounted file-systems	17:43
lobila	glitsj16, where can I see it?	17:43
glitsj16	lobila: that'll depend on the irc client you use	17:44
lobila	I have xchat2	17:44
lobila	glitsj16, I have xchat2	17:44
miguelangello	I installed itunes on ubuntu 12.04 LTS with wine but when i try to open the program there is a message "iTunes cannot run because some of its required files are missing. Please reinstall iTunes" somebody know the solution for it?	17:44
fer755	Brutus i figure they are mounted on /media if not mounted on /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab tells	17:45
fer755	*where	17:45
glitsj16	lobila: never used it, but have a look around in ~/.xchat2	17:46
Brutus\|	http://pastebin.com/bHrVaxeP	17:48
Brutus\|	kind of fuzzy on it	17:48
lobila	glitsj16, I can't find it..maybe I try asking it at freenode channel?	17:48
glitsj16	lobila: that or an xchat channel, you can use !alis to search for channels	17:50
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lobila	glitsj16, I am talking now on freenode channel about it..	17:51
cer	I need to design the plan of a room of my house, is there a good software to do so?	17:51
Brutus\|	can someone take a look at the export of my fdisk / mtab / fstab	17:52
Brutus\|	http://pastebin.com/bHrVaxeP	17:52
SonikkuAmerica	cer: Have you poked around in the Software Center	17:52
SonikkuAmerica	Brutus\|: What do you need to know? /etc/mtab and /etc/fstab show auto-mount points and options	17:54
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Brutus\|	i need to know where my second disk is :P	17:55
Brutus\|	wish to write data to it	17:55
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Brutus\|	looks like it's not mounted at all	17:56
SonikkuAmerica	Which "second disk" are you talking about?	17:56
Brutus\|	sdb2	17:56
Brutus\|	i think	17:56
Brutus\|	got two disks in that system but can only find the first	17:56
cer	SonikkuAmerica: mmmm .... do not even know what to look for! I found sweethome, but it seems to be good only if you already have a a plan .... and funiture editing does not seem to work :(	17:57
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SonikkuAmerica	Brutus\|: Then [ sudo mkdir -p /mnt/disk && sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/disk ] in terminal	17:57
Brutus\|	you must specify the filesystem type	17:58
SonikkuAmerica	Brutus\|: Do you know what it is? extX, NTFS, FAT32 (vFAT), ...?	17:59
Brutus\|	cer: www.floorplanner.com might be helpfull? it's online and it looks like there is a free version	18:00
Brutus\|	extended	18:00
Brutus\|	SonikkuAmerica: ext	18:00
TJ-	Brutus\|: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk"	18:00
TJ-	Brutus\|: "extended" is another partition table, not a file-system, so it is not possible to mount sdb2	18:00
Brutus\|	ohhhh	18:01
Brutus\|	sdb1 worked	18:01
cer	Brutus\|: thanks I need something I can use offline, line connection is poor.	18:01
TJ-	Brutus\|: be aware that the file-system will probably need root (sudo) permissions to write to, depending on the user ownership of directories and files within it	18:01
Brutus\|	TJ-: understood. seems like there is an old installation on that disk	18:02
Brutus\|	will first explore and find a way to wipe it	18:02
TJ-	Brutus\|: If you want to delete the entire file-system, you can simply reformat it. You'd first umount it "sudo umount /mnt/disk" and then reformat it "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1"	18:03
Pinkamen1_D	how do you create a live usb from ubuntu? The startup disk creator, when booted into, does not seem to have a 'start ubuntu without installing' option.	18:03
Brutus\|	it's busy :S	18:03
Brutus\|	umount: /mnt/disk: device is busy.	18:04
gordonjcp	Pinkamen1_D: dd the image to a USB stick	18:04
TJ-	Brutus\|: probably because you've either got a file or directory open inside it	18:04
Brutus\|	i checked the disk but closed that already	18:04
TJ-	Brutus\|: did you "cd" into "/mnt/disk/" ?	18:05
Brutus\|	no i checked with filezilla	18:05
Brutus\|	but closed the program	18:05
Brutus\|	TJ-: just had to wait	18:06
Brutus\|	TJ-: it's working now :)	18:06
TJ-	Brutus\|: OK :)	18:06
Brutus\|	will this now automatically mount after sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk	18:07
linuxearth	how can i use a password in the external hard drive which i have to use in linux as well as in windows (password because it becomes secured even when it goes in someone else's hands)	18:07
TJ-	Brutus\|: No, you'd need to add a line to "/etc/fstab" to have a file-system automount	18:07
TJ-	Brutus\|: If you've reformatted /dev/sdb1 you can add it to "/etc/fstab" like this: " echo "UUID=$(blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sdb1) /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2" \| sudo tee -a /etc/fstab "	18:10
Brutus\|	TJ-: I think I got it. I added [ /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2 ] to the file	18:13
Brutus\|	oh with uuid is also possible	18:13
cer	Any clue Brutus\| SonikkuAmerica?	18:13
TJ-	Brutus\|: better with the UUID since the device name can change, whereas as long as you don't reformat the file-system, the UUID will remain constant	18:14
Brutus\|	TJ-: command doesn't work	18:15
Brutus\|	cer: no idea, sorry man.	18:15
cer	Brutus\|: thank you !	18:15
Brutus\|	when I do the command it just tells me >	18:15
TJ-	Brutus\|: are you missing a "	18:15
Brutus\|	did copy/paste	18:16
Brutus\|	echo "UUID=$(blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sdb1) /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2" \| sudo tee -a /etc/fstab "	18:16
TJ-	The > usually indicates you've got unmatched quote marks... you've either missed 1, or got 1 too many	18:16
TJ-	Brutus\|: don't type the outer quote marks... I use those to enclose the entire command separate from my own comments	18:16
Brutus\|	TJ-: removed the last one	18:16
TJ-	Brutus\|: That'll be the one :)	18:17
Brutus\|	TJ-: UUID= /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2	18:17
Brutus\|	that line got added	18:17
Brutus\|	shouldn't there be a number behind it?	18:17
Brutus\|	TJ-: this is another disk I got: UUID=9dea7ccb-4772-460d-bae6-2632cf7200b9 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1	18:18
Brutus\|	TJ-: mount: special device UUID= does not exist	18:19
TJ-	Brutus\|: Yes, there should be... have you deleted sdb1 ?	18:20
Brutus\|	no I didn't delete it	18:20
TJ-	Brutus\|: You'll need to remove that line from fstab , I' ve just realised I left off a vital "sudo" call !	18:21
zerowaitstate	Brutus: the whole point of the UUID thing is so a particular device always gets mounted the same way regardless of its position on the bus.	18:21
Brutus\|	TJ-: it's mounted to /mnt/disk	18:21
miguelangello	what app could i use on ubuntu like hyperterminal ?	18:21
TJ-	Brutus\|: echo "UUID=$(sudo blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sdb1) /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2" \| sudo tee -a /etc/fstab	18:21
Brutus\|	TJ-: that seems to work a lot better :)	18:23
Brutus\|	UUID=59fa6025-942c-4b1b-bec4-78be19c5e102 /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2	18:23
TJ-	Brutus\|: You can delete the 'bad' line with "sudo sed -i ',UUID= /mnt/disk ext4,d' /etc/fstab "	18:23
Brutus\|	TJ-: got it working :)	18:23
TJ-	Brutus\|: good :)	18:23
Brutus\|	mount -a doesn't give any errors, going for a reboot on that system	18:23
djanatan	Is the gaming performance in Unity better now? When I tried it last year, it was garbage.	18:25
k1l_	djanatan: everything is wonderfull now. or do you have a specific question?	18:26
djanatan	putting my toes in the water before I jump back in is all	18:27
godmachine81	i'm a pretty experienced linux user, but not so much with ubuntu. i just upgraded a distro manually but now everytime i try to add new PPA's they automatically use the release name from the previous version installed	18:28
godmachine81	my question is how to configure the system so that all new ppa's will use saucy instead of raring	18:28
godmachine81	other than manually changing them in the .list files myself	18:28
k1l_	godmachine81: what does "updated manually" mean?	18:29
Brutus\|	TJ-: thank you it's working. Now updating my system	18:30
dgarstang1	Anyone know if cloud-init supports GCE yet?	18:30
lca_13	dgarstang1, hey	18:30
godmachine81	k1l_: manually meaning i have modified my own sources.list and made configuration changes by hand ( i have forked an ubuntu based distro that used raring)	18:31
dgarstang1	lca_13: yo	18:31
miguelangello	what app can i use to sync my ipod nano on ubuntu 12.04 ?	18:31
godmachine81	k1l_: i really just to know how to fix whatever config the apt-add-ppa uses and change it to add the saucy sources instead of raring	18:31
RyuKojiro	Quick question, does the livecd have hdparm on it?	18:32
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Xuisce	hi all	18:33
Guest68338	ciao	18:33
Guest68338	!list	18:34
ubottu	Guest68338: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».	18:34
dgarstang1	Seems like Ubuntu's cloud-init doesn't support Google Compute yet. :(	18:34
TJ-	RyuKojiro: Yes	18:34
Guest68338	ubuntu	18:34
RyuKojiro	TJ-: Awesome, thanks	18:34
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lca_13	can anyone give me some helpful links on setting up openstack	18:37
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Guest5512	what is this?	18:38
genii	Guest5512: You've arrived in the Ubuntu Linux support channel.	18:39
Guest5512	Thanks	18:39
lca_13	openstack anyone ?	18:40
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Pici	lca_13: You'd probably have better luck asking in #openstack and/or #ubuntu-server	18:42
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miguelangello	I have a usb to serial adapter and i wanna know if it works on ubuntu 12.04, how could i do it ?	18:44
lca_13	Pici: thanks	18:45
shahan1322f	whats the best way to test your internet connection speed in linux?	18:47
glitsj16	godmachine81: have you checked if there are still references to raring in /etc/apt/apt.conf? or tried to set your default release name there?	18:48
godmachine81	glitsj16: grep -ir 'raring' /etc returns nothing at all	18:49
godmachine81	what file does the default release name get set in? i have a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ directory that has several different .confs starting with 10- as example	18:50
glitsj16	godmachine81: well, try setting it explicitly to saucy in /etc/apt/apt.conf, something like .. APT::Default-Release "saucy";	18:51
godmachine81	glitsj16: so i need to create the /etc/apt.conf file? or shouldn't i be using the file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ ?	18:53
glitsj16	godmachine81: don't know where the add-apt-repository command looks for that info	18:53
proch	ciao	18:54
glitsj16	godmachine81: i'd try to put it in /etc/apt/apt.conf, which might be an empty file to begin with	18:54
godmachine81	glitsj16: its not even a file to begin with	18:54
glitsj16	godmachine81: create it to test	18:55
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Larry_	SOS UKRAINE	18:59
y4h0_	join #java	19:01
genii	Larry_: This is the Ubuntu Linux support channel. You may have wanted ##politics channel instead.	19:01
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genii	Larry_: Unless of course, you're in the Ukraine but your problem is related to your Ubuntu :)	19:02
pieces029	Does anyone have recommendations for an http proxy client similar to Fiddler that will work on Ubunut?	19:05
junior_	oiiiiiii	19:06
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genii	pieces029: The simplest thing I can think of offhand is just the Server Spy add-on for Firefox which can show you all the headers etc. Can't twiddle with it then send it back on though. Squid may have some of this type of facility.	19:10
pieces029	genii, I'm trying to debug a mobile phone so that unfortunately won't work. Thanks for the idea though.	19:10
kbrosnan	genii: tamper data	19:11
dgarstang1	i no like cloud-init :(	19:12
whodares	hi	19:12
runnyspot	pieces029: mitmproxy or owasp zap	19:12
pieces029	runnyspot, Ok, I'll check those out. Thanks!	19:13
charly_	hi, ubuntu is hanging at boot. running mac os under virtualbox. fresh install loads fine, after initializing android environment, restart hangs. happened twice with fresh installs. this problem has never occured before. initialized environment same way multiple times. any suggestions?	19:14
genii	charly_: If this is Ubuntu touch, then i suggest to ask in #ubuntu-touch ... if it's something like regular Ubuntu locking up while loading Eclipse or Android components for development, then this is still the right channel	19:18
sudonoob	Hi All, I was on last night and didnt resolve my issues after a number of tries. How to I downgrade to another version of 13.10 (or) use something other than unity?	19:19
rcw2	using firebug in firefox is making firefox use 50% of cpu. how can i troubleshoot this best	19:23
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kbrosnan	make sure you are using the most up to date version of the extension.	19:24
Xuisce	hi kbrosnan	19:24
rcw2	kbrosnan, to me?	19:24
kbrosnan	yes, then if you are report it using their process. http://getfirebug.com/community	19:24
genii	sudonoob: If you give details of your original problem again to the channel, someone may try to continue assisting. Alternately, you could for the moment install a different desktop like Xubuntu or Lubuntu by doing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (or lubuntu-desktop)	19:25
sudonoob	genii: thanks. my original problem is no dash. I tried everything suggested including removing unity, resetting it and following all suggestions i.e. install compiz etc	19:27
kbrosnan	rcw2: in addtion it can make sense to have a developer profile where you have heavy extensions such as Firebug, you can run mutiple instances of firefox using the -P and -no-remote commands. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options	19:28
rustuptwist	TJ-: you up and about bro?	19:29
dgarstang1	omg. the cloud-init docs are terrible	19:30
rcw2	kbrosnan, actually, its using that much cpu without firebug as well. is there a way to load firefox free of addons	19:31
rcw2	ah -safe-mode	19:31
iron	i cant get a grub screen after installing ubuntu	19:33
iron	can someone help, it says input signal out of range	19:34
meme	I am running a server on EC2 and I am trying to get a subdomain to work. I've modified my apache config to point dashboard2.mvp-interactive.com to /var/www/dashboardv2 but for some reason it keeps looking for /var/www - any ideas? here is the pastebin - http://pastebin.com/0SEzFCen -- the main DNS is hosted with go GoDaddy and dashboardv2.mvp-interactive.com points to my linux server at	19:34
meme	50.19.234.248	19:34
iron	hello?	19:35
iron	am i on? can you see what i'm typing?	19:36
sh0t	iron, yes	19:36
iron	ok	19:36
iron	i think my monitor or gpu does not support the grub that was installed.	19:37
compdoc	cant see it boot?	19:37
iron	i dont see the grub loader so I cant choose between windows or ubuntu	19:39
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Pici	iron: It isn't displayed unless you hold down the shift key at boot.	19:41
iron	oh so it has changed?	19:42
Pici	Quite a few releases ago iirc.	19:42
sudonoob	genii: I have installed xubuntu now and still no dash? What shall i do? Its still the same background as 13.1	19:44
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Guest65115	hai	19:45
iron	still does not show when holding down shift	19:45
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iron	monitor says change to 1280x1024 60hz. how do i do this?	19:45
genii	sudonoob: I don't believe Xubuntu comes with a dash. Did you select from login screen the Xubuntu/XFCE session or are you still going to the old one?	19:46
MarbolanGos	e	19:47
JoshuaP	how would i correct bad sectors on a hard drive?	19:47
iron	cant see grub screen. help	19:47
Dureiken	Hi there, could someone help me to make a scrypt file which is taking a part of his command into another file ? if it's possible ? Thanks a lot	19:47
compdoc	JoshuaP, cant	19:47
compdoc	need a new drive	19:47
JoshuaP	compdoc: what, exactly, makes a bad sector?	19:48
compdoc	JoshuaP, means its failing. And its a better way to die than just stopping dead. Means you can get most of your files	19:49
Xuisce	hi all	19:50
charly_	hi, ubuntu is hanging at boot. running mac os under virtualbox. fresh install loads fine, after initializing android environment, restart hangs. happened twice with fresh installs. this problem has never occured before. initialized environment same way multiple times. any suggestions?	19:53
charly_	sometimes reboots to tty1	19:53
Beer_Man	Where can I report 14.04 bugs that apport hook does not pick up?	19:55
fer755	charly_hi u are running 8,1 kernel ?	19:55
silidan	anyone got experience with bluetooth under ubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu 12.04?	19:55
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jazzme	hello, after running the ubuntu updates via a vnc session, I can no longer access the ubuntu session where vnc server is running. All I get is a black screen. Any ideas please?	19:56
miguelangello	[ 579.193318] pl2303: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver	19:57
miguelangello	this line means my driver is working?	19:57
silidan	hi, i have 2 usb bluetooth 3.0 + hs dongles here and want to transfer files with them using ubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu 12.04 so far the transfer works but only quite slow (<200 kByte/s), i know that these devices work with (>1MByte/s) with win7, so what should i configure where to get the same speed?	19:58
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iron	cant get grub screen to show up. cant see what os to choose from	20:00
iron	can someone help me?	20:01
iron	if not where is the real help channel for ubuntu	20:01
charly_	8,1 kernel for what	20:01
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dstar69	hi - installed 12.04 and it crashed on updating, now i have gnu grub screen that gives me options none of which work. Can anyone hold my hand and tell me what to do before I reinstall altogether?	20:02
iron	i get no grub screen	20:02
fer755	charly_ are u running 8.1 kernel?	20:03
fer755	charly_ on ubuntu	20:03
charly_	running ubuntu 12.04 under virtualbox	20:04
piotr__	witam serdecznie	20:05
kingfisher64	hello, enjoyed my 1st week using Ubuntu. Is there a linux equilivant of wampserver (lamp stack)?	20:05
iron	maybe i'll try a different install of linux. ubuntu cant give me a grub screen to choose what os i want.	20:05
fer755	charly_ the last 2 numbers on command uname -r are 8.1	20:06
Dureiken	Hi there, could someone help me to make a scrypt file which is taking a part of his command into another file ? if it's possible ? Thanks a lot	20:06
iron	cant seem to find anyone that can help with my issue either	20:06
dgarstang1	Cloud-init... GCE.... Anyone?	20:06
piotr__	chciałbym poradzic się uzytkowników ubuntu w sprawie naprawienia błędu aktualizacji	20:06
fer755	Iron yes	20:07
iron	i dont get a grub screen to choose what os i want to run	20:07
piotr__	wykryto u mnie raport błędu	20:07
dstar69	hi - installed 12.04 and it crashed on updating, now i have gnu grub screen that gives me options none of which work. Do I just reinstall altogether?	20:07
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delac	anyone around who has managed to get Canon mg3500 series drivers to work on 12.04?	20:09
charly_	3.8.0-29-generic	20:09
miguelangello	How can i start the teamviewer daemon? because i installed it but dosnt work it says start daemon before	20:10
fer755	charly_ i had an issue now resolved under 12.8.1 kernel i upgrade kernel now . the issue are whit vbox	20:10
maclinux123	Hello	20:11
bekks	fer755: Which issues?	20:12
fer755	bekks 2d and 3d accel and no nvidia on kernel img	20:13
miguelangello	How can i start the teamviewer daemon? because i installed it but dosnt work it says start daemon before	20:13
bekks	fer755: What does "2d and 3d accel and no nvidia on kernel img" mean, please?	20:13
fer755	virtualbox 2d and 3d accel enabled and missing kernel module nvidia. on kernel img file	20:14
fer755	but im not using ubuntu the kernels are differs	20:15
bekks	fer755: The nvidia module is always missing since it is separated from the kernel.	20:15
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fer755	bekks sure are on img file	20:15
charly_	never had the issue before. installed/utilized ubuntu previously. same programming.	20:15
fer755	bekks there are a kernel and a kernel img file too , in that are the modules	20:16
bekks	fer755: the nvidia module is never part of the kernel, since it is a binary blob which will not be included in the kernel officially. It is a 3rd party module.	20:16
bekks	fer755: However - do you talk about the kernel in your virtualbox guest?	20:17
fer755	bekks and where is located?	20:17
bekks	fer755: Where is what located?	20:17
fer755	bekks i miss the point	20:18
fer755	bekks no	20:18
dstar69	hi - installed 12.04 and it crashed on updating, now i have gnu grub screen that gives me options none of which work. Do I just reinstall altogether?	20:19
iron	how can i get the grub screen to show up so i can choose my OS?	20:19
fer755	bekks no matters , i have an issue and if u dont understant np. there is not applicable to this case	20:19
bekks	fer755: If you are not talking about a kernel in your virtualbox, and you are not talking about issues compiling the virtualbox kernel modules - how is that related to virtualbox then? :)	20:19
DJones	iron: It should just be a case of tapping the left shift key during boot	20:19
bekks	fer755: Ok, we just rest that case :)	20:19
fer755	bekks i miss the point of the whole thing	20:19
iron	i have and i get nothing. just blank screen. and monitor says signal out of range	20:20
fer755	bekks there are a kernel host to run vbox no?	20:20
bekks	fer755: There is no special kernel that is needed to run vbox, no.	20:21
fer755	bekks there are a module that kernel have to read. no?	20:21
bazhang	fer755, you should try in #vbox	20:21
fer755	i resolved that issue now	20:21
dgarstang1	sigh Cloud-init latest in experimental is supposed to support GCE. I think not. :(	20:23
Boreeas	Can someone explain to me the compile error here/how I can fix it: http://pastebin.com/gXnC0B6n?	20:24
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iron	i think my monitor or gpu dont support the grub loader screen. can someone help?	20:26
dstar69	ah kernel panic... a first for me (only been doing the linux thing for 10 days or so...) (reinstalled linux mint three times, now on second time install of ubuntu. didn't like vista, but at least i didn't need to reinstall it every second day!)	20:27
wolfzrat	is there an ubuntu 14.04 utilty version prerelease out to try out?	20:29
genii	"utility version" ?	20:30
Dureiken	Hi there, could someone help me to make a scrypt file which is taking a part of his command into another file ? if it's possible ? Thanks a lot	20:30
bazhang	wolfzrat, 14.04 questions in #ubuntu+1 please	20:31
bazhang	Dureiken, for litecoin?	20:32
wolfzrat	sry didnt know =/	20:32
Dureiken	bazhang : for ubuntu	20:33
bazhang	Dureiken, scrypt for what please	20:33
dstar69	reinstalling...	20:33
* dstar69 sigh		20:33
Dureiken	for mining yes	20:33
dstar69	later	20:33
wolfzrat	thank you bazhang	20:33
wolfzrat	for redirecting me	20:33
JoshuaP	compdoc: can i zero out the spots and continue on?	20:34
squashpoint0h	asdf	20:35
Boreeas	Can someone explain to me the compile error here/how I can fix it: http://pastebin.com/gXnC0B6n?	20:45
sudonoob	Finally sorted my no dash issue... Thanks for the help/ suggestions. Uninstalled Unity using sudo purge and installed xubuntu-desktop. What are the major differences?	20:46
silidan	hi, im using the bluez package on ubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 13.10, i got 2 usb bluetooth 3.0 + hs wifi combo dongles and i can transfer files between 2 machines with them. its just very slow (<200kByte/s) how do i need to configure the wifi /bluetooth part for higher speeds? (in win 7 these 2 dongles achieve >1 MByte/s)	20:46
conroe	whats the package name for the default terminal in lightdm/saucy?	20:48
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delac	anyone around who has managed to get Canon mg3500 series drivers to work on 12.04?	20:50
MonkeyDust	conroe gnome-terminal	20:55
conroe	so lightdm only runs on top of gnome?	20:55
MonkeyDust	conroe lightdm is the login menu, not sure what you want or mean	20:56
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conroe	i thought that was unity?	20:57
cnodell	Is there a way to find out what applications are kept current on LTS releases? I noticed Firefox was kept current and am wondering what other apps are treated the same!	20:57
MonkeyDust	conroe no, unity is a compiz shell over gnome3	20:57
conroe	ah	20:57
cnodell	I thought that a search of Ubuntu's LTS updates/backports repositories might be right but want to be sure...	20:58
vbgunz	anyone know of a task or todo manager that's simple, but you can add a time to the task say 20 minutes? so this way, an alarm or reminder to stop doing the task pops up?	21:00
cnodell	Anyone have a suggestion?	21:00
MonkeyDust	cnodell what was your question?	21:01
conroe	MonkeyDust, package name for that upper-right menu?	21:01
conroe	panel?	21:01
MonkeyDust	conroe gnome-panel	21:02
conroe	hmm. i did install it but its seems I have to launch it manually	21:03
melter	if i run "apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork", why does "apachectl -V" show the MPM as "event" and not "prefork"?	21:03
cnodell	Is there a way to find out what applications are kept current on LTS releases? I noticed Firefox was kept current and am wondering what other apps are treated the same!	21:04
Jensor	Hello, I'm really new to Linux and I'm exploring my way around. I have on my system a couple of kernel-version directory's, can I just remove them or will it stop me from booting up again (or will some programs depend on that "older" kernel version folder)? Any information where I can learn/read more about this? Thanks in advance.	21:04
Ben64	cnodell: no real way to check, but firefox is likely the only thing	21:05
k1l_	Jensor: folders? if you want to remove old kernels remove the old kernel packages	21:06
cnodell	thanks!	21:06
Jensor	k1l_, I probably mistyped, the items under /usr/src/*	21:07
cnodell	Another Question: How reliable are upgrades from one version of Ubuntu to the next? Would removing, adding and changing applications affect chances of success?	21:07
Ben64	Jensor: the general rule is - don't delete anything not in your home directory	21:08
[[a]	hello, my mouse right-click is not working anymore; any help plz	21:08
k1l_	Jensor: they get removed, when you remove the old unused packages.	21:08
Jensor	Ben64, I don't really want to delete them, rather know what they do or what their use is.	21:09
Ben64	cnodell: ppa's are more likely to cause issues, standard ubuntu repositories and packages should upgrade without much problem	21:09
k1l_	Jensor: i suggest not to fiddle behind the back of the package system. use the official ubuntu package system where you can	21:09
cnodell	Thanks again!	21:09
Jensor	k1l_, oke thanks for the info.	21:09
k1l_	Jensor: if you remove the linux-image-.... and linux-header-.... package you will notice, that the folder will be deleted	21:10
Jensor	k1l_ and so will the boot entry I'm guessing?	21:10
k1l_	yes	21:11
Jensor	thanks	21:11
cnodell	I am trying to decide on a distro recommendation for a friend new to linux. Mint and Ubuntu were forerunners. When I looked up upgrades for Mint their documentation suggested always doing fresh installs and data backups. Kind of surprised me. With Mint being based on Ubuntu I began wondering if Ubuntu was also so finiky regarding upgrades.	21:11
k1l_	cnodell: upgrades are fine. but backups are always suggested just for murphys law	21:11
k1l_	(which is: murphy will know when you dont have backups and will sabotage your system ;p )	21:12
genii	cnodell: It is always recommended to back up your data of course. But upgrades are fairly painless.	21:12
Ben64	cnodell: one thing you could do is use the LTS releases, only have to upgrade versions once every 2 years, instead of every 6 months	21:13
MonkeyDust	cnodell and if you don't like upgrading, use LTS's	21:14
MonkeyDust	Ben64 was fester :)	21:14
MonkeyDust	faster*	21:14
phatso	I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu in vbox but after I go through the partition disk menu and try installing the base system it keep throwing me back to the partition disk menu even though I chose to commit all changes - http://oi61.tinypic.com/3162o43.jpg	21:16
MonkeyDust	phatso i had that issue with debian on vbox, it was solved by using one partition only (everything in /)	21:18
phatso	MonkeyDust: I have / mounted on /dev/sda and swap on /dev/sda5	21:18
p30arena	hey anyone got the DVI problem?	21:22
k1l_	p30arena: which dvi problem?	21:23
p30arena	when I try to login with mu user, what I see is a black screen, saying some bullshit about DVI and returning me to the login screen	21:23
p30arena	the funny thing is that when I login with Guest, everything goes well	21:23
k1l_	p30arena: see .xsession-errors in the users home for errors	21:23
p30arena	k1\|_: the error is nonsense, the xorg server is bragging about that it can't find the monitor, and some problems with the dvi, I don't have access to my ubuntu system, so I can't be specific right now	21:25
k1l_	p30arena: well, if it works in guest mode it is some user specific setting that doesnt work. so getting that errormessage would guide to the solution	21:26
k1l_	p30arena: but there is not such thing like "the dvi problem". so get the specific details and we will see	21:27
p30arena	k1\|_: yea exactly, but what I don't realize, is why it should get corrupted, I just use it regularly, last time I installed VBox and did nothing else :)) confused confused confused… :D	21:27
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jKlaus	hey all	21:44
hewhomust	hi	21:44
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jKlaus	So.. what exactly is Ubuntu TV?	21:44
jKlaus	n/m just found the channel :P	21:45
zaitzev	I'm having an issue with a simple bash script I just made, and I can't see what I'm doing wrong. All the paths exist. When I run it, I just get a "Terminated" output and it hasn't launched. http://pastie.org/8676611	21:48
imuser	Lubuntu people are scarce over there. S0, guys, can I through some things overboard to make Lubuntu 13.10 lighter. My computer is old. Can I uninstall in the software center some games or something that I don't use?	21:51
imuser	"throw" sorry about spelling	21:52
silidan1	hi, im using the bluez package on ubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 13.10, i got 2 usb bluetooth 3.0 + hs wifi combo dongles and i can transfer files between 2 machines with them. its just very slow (<200kByte/s) how do i need to configure the wifi /bluetooth part for higher speeds? (in win 7 these 2 dongles achieve >1 MByte/s)	21:53
imuser	my memory is like 400 something mb. What can you do with that?	21:55
zerowaitstate	imuser: not run ubuntu desktop. ubuntu's bloat is in the gui	21:57
zerowaitstate	try using mint or something	21:57
zerowaitstate	if you don't need the ui, ubuntu server is fairly lean	21:58
imuser	zerowaitstate, I have Lubuntu 13.10.... is that the ubuntu desktop? don't know much about linux here.	21:58
zerowaitstate	in linux you have a choice of desktop environments. some are very lean on resources and some hog memory. ubuntu favors the GNOME desktop, which uses a lot of RAM	21:59
zerowaitstate	I am not familiar with Lubuntu though	21:59
zerowaitstate	ah lxde	21:59
phil-ns	xfce is very lean	21:59
zerowaitstate	so, you have already cut out a lot of the GNOME cruft	21:59
imuser	can I change desktop environments make it leaner and meaner?	21:59
phil-ns	I just ripped all the cruft :)	21:59
zerowaitstate	imsuer, lxde is pretty lean as it is	21:59
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zerowaitstate	imuser: whats using your ram right now?	22:01
saiarcot895	imuser: Lubuntu is really meant for low-RAM systems, so you can't get too much lower	22:01
zerowaitstate	yeah, I was just mentioning that. I realized that Lubuntu was the LXDE flavor	22:02
hewhomust	crunchbang lol	22:07
zerowaitstate	imuser: you are riding pretty close to the minimum requirements for lubuntu. You may take a look at PuppyLinux.	22:08
zerowaitstate	imuser: basically, once you get down to RAM sizes that small, you have to start pulling features out to stay within the RAM footprint	22:09
zerowaitstate	imuser: archlinux is another, but not for the faint of heart	22:10
miles_	hello	22:15
miles_	hello	22:15
miles_	fgdsgf	22:15
miles_	gsfd	22:15
miles_	gfsd	22:15
FloodBot1	miles_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	22:15
miles_	gsd	22:15
miles_	gsd	22:15
imuser	thanks, guys, I was talking over in the Lubuntu channel	22:15
zerowaitstate	what did you find out?	22:15
zerowaitstate	curious	22:15
imuser	so, if I put Puppy on a disk, how would I keep it updated or clean install another one?	22:16
imuser	and what if I want to save what I do on my usb flashdrive I put puppy on, so I can use it live?	22:18
zerowaitstate	http://puppylinux.org/main/Puppy430-tutorial-English.pdf	22:19
imuser	thanks!	22:19
ikonia	err thats for puppy	22:19
k1l_	imuser: for puppy issues please ask the puppy support	22:19
imuser	ya thanks kll	22:20
ikonia	I don't think he wants puppy support, but help given was for puppy	22:20
zerowaitstate	sorry about that guys, should have msged	22:20
ikonia	oh it is puppy	22:20
ikonia	sorry, my fault	22:20
zerowaitstate	unless someone wants to start a Puppy-like Ubuntu, maybe Poobuntu?	22:21
ikonia	it already exists and is a shambles, hence why it's a poor release	22:21
bekks	zerowaitstate: Thats an unofficial spin off, and not supported in here, too.	22:21
The_Woodsman	i've got some files on my laptop i want to get on my desktop, and i also want to learn how to use sftp. how do i find out all the parameters and stuff i need to connect to my desktop from my laptop using sftp?	22:23
ikonia	The_Woodsman: scp files username@remotehost:/new/location	22:23
ikonia	The_Woodsman: man scp or sftp will give you information on the parameters	22:23
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The_Woodsman	ikonia: yeah okay so i looked up my ip address and i know the user names and passwords and everything, but i was not able to connect to my desktop - is the ip address not the remotehost	22:24
ikonia	the ip address is an acceptable remote host	22:24
The_Woodsman	ikonia: so for whatever reason i could not connect using the ip address, even though i opened the SFTP port	22:25
The_Woodsman	ikonia: and the sftp port, does scp work on that port also?	22:25
ikonia	The_Woodsman: could be many reasons, show me the command you are using	22:25
The_Woodsman	ikonia: sure, one sec	22:25
The_Woodsman	ikonia: scp "testfile" username@ipaddress - i did not give it a path after that so maybe that is why it's messed up	22:26
ikonia	The_Woodsman: yes, you did not use the example I gave you	22:27
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PinnacleDawn	Hey	22:31
The_Woodsman	ikonia: the connection timed out when i used scp "testfile" username@ipaddress:C/ - did i screw up the syntax or is there possibly a deeper issue	22:32
ikonia	The_Woodsman: there is no such thing as c:\ on a windows host	22:33
ikonia	sorry on a linux host	22:33
ikonia	The_Woodsman: are you trying to move files from linux to a windows host ?	22:33
The_Woodsman	ikonia: yes	22:33
The_Woodsman	ikonia: my laptop is on ubuntu, my desktop is on windows	22:33
ikonia	The_Woodsman: ok, so you'll need to use sftp	22:33
ikonia	The_Woodsman: sftp from the linux laptop to the windows desktop, correct ?	22:34
ikonia	as in from the linux machine -> files -> windows machine	22:34
The_Woodsman	ikonia: correct	22:34
ikonia	The_Woodsman: are you running an sftp server on the windows host ?	22:34
The_Woodsman	ikonia: so now i'm using sftp username@ipaddress which is what it looks like the ubuntu website's documentation is saying to do, but the connection still times out	22:36
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ikonia	The_Woodsman: please try to pay attention to what is being asked of you	22:37
ikonia	The_Woodsman: are you running an sftp server on the windows desktop ?	22:37
The_Woodsman	ikonia: ah sorry i missed that message. i need to change the color scheme on this IRC client, i'm colorblind to the response text. no, i am not. i didn't know that was necessary, i thought i could just open the port and connect in whenever	22:38
ikonia	The_Woodsman: ok, so if you are not running an sftp server on the windows host, what do you expect the linux machine to actually connect to	22:39
ikonia	The_Woodsman: opening a port is great, but if nothing is running/listening on that port, there is nothing for the client to connect to	22:39
The_Woodsman	ikonia: okay thanks for the help, i'll see if i can figure that part out without bothering you haha	22:39
alp	Hi, I'm in need of help on bluetooth connectivity	22:44
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siren_face2000	Hi!	22:48
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siren_face2000	I need some help figuring out something	22:48
bmccoy11	Help! I just installed ubuntu using the Windows installer, rebooted, and it worked, but when I rebooted again, it's stuck at "initramfs"!	22:49
siren_face2000	I've already installed Ubuntu to my external drive, but I can't figure out how to get it to boot	22:50
bmccoy11	It's stuck at the busybox shell/ initramfs	22:50
siren_face2000	I know I have to figure out what I need to change in my BIOS so that it boots.	22:50
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bmccoy11	My graphics card is a AMD Radeon X1250	22:51
anonymous_	helloo	22:51
anonymous_	any1 there?	22:51
bmccoy11	Anyone?	22:52
whod	<siren_face2000> use grub	22:52
ikonia	saying anyone is pointless	22:52
bmccoy11	I'm not sure if Windows 8 is the problem.	22:52
bmccoy11	I'm using legacy BIOS.	22:52
ikonia	why would windows 8 have any impact on your ubuntu install ?	22:53
bmccoy11	Not sure.	22:53
bmccoy11	Just a n00b.	22:53
bmccoy11	Is it a graphics card driver problem?	22:53
dupingping86	Hello	22:54
glitsj16	siren_face2000: have you set your BIOS boot order to prioritize booting from external USB HDD?	22:54
dupingping86	How to use grub with windows 8?	22:54
whod	http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ will work too	22:54
whod	bios option already thought u tried :)	22:55
dupingping86	okok!	22:55
ikonia	dupingping86: same way as any other windows install	22:55
ikonia	there is no need for "supergrubdisk" that canse actually cause problems as the grub versin may not be the same as the ubuntu one	22:55
dupingping86	ikonia: how?	22:56
whod	it doesnt cause probs if just use it to load the .lst... from the eternal drive	22:56
ikonia	dupingping86: how what ?	22:56
whod	and at 7mb :) download D:	22:56
ikonia	whod of course it can	22:56
dupingping86	detail comments for grub with windows 8	22:56
whod	how? when zero changes to be made with it. u'd wait til boot into os, then fix there	22:56
ikonia	what's wrong with just using the ubuntu media you installed with	22:57
aaronfeng	i'm trying to use cloudinit in aws vpc, it doesn't seem to work, but it works fine in ec2-classic. i came across this post: http://luhman.org/blog/2013/03/16/getting-ubuntu-cloud-init-work-amazon-aws-vpc however that didn't work for me either	22:57
ikonia	dupingping86: what's the actual problem you are having ?	22:57
bmccoy11	uhm	22:57
k1l_	!bootrepair \| dupingping86	22:57
ikonia	aaronfeng: "it doesn't work" isn't really sometihng you can expec tot get help with as that explains nothing	22:57
k1l_	dupingping86: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair	22:58
SonikkuAmerica	lol, someone in #u is yammering about "eternal" (external) HDDs	22:58
* bmccoy11 yawns		22:58
SonikkuAmerica	!boot-repair	22:59
SonikkuAmerica	Not even once.	22:59
aaronfeng	ikonia: well, it didn't do the install, i want to know if cloudinit is expected to work within vpc. according to that post which referenced this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/615545	22:59
ubottu	Ubuntu bug 615545 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "Instances launched in a VPC cannot access ec2.archive.ubuntu.com" [Medium,Fix released]	22:59
ikonia	aaronfeng: didn't do the install - you need to give details	22:59
ikonia	aaronfeng: that's like me saying "fix it" as a solution	23:00
bmccoy11	?	23:01
bmccoy11	I installed Ubuntu, rebooted, logged in, rebooted again, and now it's stuck at initramfs/busybox shell and won't load the GUI.	23:02
siren_face2000	who asked me if I had tried setting my boot order?	23:02
siren_face2000	I did try booting from the USB HDD	23:04
siren_face2000	but, nothing happened.	23:04
bmccoy11	siren_face2000: glitsj16	23:04
siren_face2000	ok	23:04
siren_face2000	glitsj16, I did try, but nothing happened.	23:04
bmccoy11	Can anyone help me?	23:04
bmccoy11	I feel ignored :3	23:05
siren_face2000	I also tried using F12 to boot from it directly.	23:05
dupingping86	And what are differences between grub and grub2	23:05
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: when you get dropped to busybox, what is the error message?	23:05
bmccoy11	Nothing.	23:06
dragonfly	dupingping86: among other things, they use different configuration files	23:06
bmccoy11	Wait	23:06
bmccoy11	Let me check	23:06
SonikkuAmerica	bmccoy11: Does it say "Gave up waiting for root device" or something	23:06
SonikkuAmerica	?	23:06
bmccoy11	Nope	23:06
k1l_	dupingping86: grub2 is standard since some time. use that	23:06
bmccoy11	It just says "BusyBox Shell..."	23:07
bmccoy11	No error whatsoever.	23:07
tropicalpapaya	I am trying to install 12.04 through PXE. The installer boots just fine and I go through menus to choose keyboard layout and network interface. Then the screen flashes to "Downloading release" or something similar and the progress bar disappears. The installer sits there blankly for a while, then the system shuts down automatically. How can I diagnose the issue?	23:07
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: can you take a photo of the screen and post it?	23:07
bmccoy11	Sure.	23:07
dupingping86	ok	23:08
glitsj16	siren_face2000: have a look around in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for possible clues, or pastebin those on http://paste.ubuntu.com so people can have a look at them	23:08
dupingping86	who does know about fuseftp with perl?	23:09
glitsj16	siren_face2000: to make the pastebinning easier, you can .. sudo apt-get install pastebinit .. after installing that .. pastebinit /var/log/dmesg .. same for the other one	23:10
dupingping86	fuseftp is very slow	23:11
bekks	Yes, as every fuse based implementation.	23:11
dupingping86	so i can't use that	23:11
bmccoy11	hitsujiTMO: Windows 8 boot chooser - http://imgur.com/MaEMINu - Busybox shell - http://imgur.com/GVanuUq	23:13
dupingping86	Hey! you know very fast ftp filesystem.	23:13
dupingping86	?	23:13
bmccoy11	Filesystem?	23:13
dupingping86	yes	23:14
bmccoy11	Ext2.	23:14
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: and there's no text above that whatsoever?	23:14
bmccoy11	Nope.	23:14
bmccoy11	That's all she wrote.	23:14
dragonfly	dupingping86: what are you trying to do? Perhaps there is a better tool for the job.	23:14
dupingping86	no no. FTP Filesystem use with mount command	23:14
Ben64	bmccoy11: you installed using wubi?	23:15
bmccoy11	Yes.	23:15
bmccoy11	:/	23:15
k1l_	bmccoy11: :(	23:15
dragonfly	dupingping86: you are trying to mount a remote filesystem?	23:15
k1l_	dont use wubi. make a native install on own partitions	23:15
dupingping86	yes	23:15
bmccoy11	How can I fix it without reinstalling.	23:15
Ben64	you cannot	23:15
k1l_	bmccoy11: best way is to reinstall and use a real install this time	23:16
bmccoy11	There must be something wrong.	23:16
Ben64	the "wrong" thing is using wubi, unfortunately	23:16
bmccoy11	I want to install 13.10 but it doesn't detect Windows.	23:16
bmccoy11	Fresh Windows 8.1 installation on a newly wiped hard drive.	23:17
dupingping86	hi	23:17
hewhomust	hi	23:17
bmccoy11	Hi	23:17
dragonfly	dupingping86: do you have to use ftp or could you use ssh?	23:18
qwk	hello guys o/	23:18
bmccoy11	What did Wubi even do wrong? The first time it rebooted, it worked fine.	23:18
qwk	I have find an apt-get who is incorrect	23:19
qwk	apt-get install yaws	23:19
qwk	in the repos, who should I talk to	23:19
bmccoy11	?	23:19
hewhomust	what???	23:19
bprompt	ehheh	23:20
Ben64	qwk: you're going to have to explain what you're talking about	23:20
bprompt	qwk: what do you mean?	23:20
qwk	like if u installing a program	23:20
hewhomust	what does it say?	23:20
bmccoy11	W a t	23:20
qwk	u want it to work	23:20
bprompt	qwk: ok... so you want to install something?	23:20
qwk	but it seem to be broke	23:20
dragonfly	qwk: what makes you think it is broken? is there an error message?	23:20
hewhomust	whats broken?	23:20
qwk	the yaws from aptitude seem to be broke	23:20
bmccoy11	Can someone help me??	23:21
bprompt	qwk: try a quick -> sudo apt-get check	23:21
Ben64	!details \| qwk	23:21
ubottu	qwk: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."	23:21
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: wubi is unfortunately prone to these kinds of issues. the file system sits inside another OS so things can change vi windows that break wubi	23:21
bmccoy11	It does?	23:21
bmccoy11	Oh....	23:21
qwk	i compared it to my friend who is running arch	23:21
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glitsj16	siren_face2000: please scratch what i wrote, that assumes you're in the system, which doesn't boot so i forgot the issue to begin with sorry .. can you describe what exactly you are seeing when trying to boot into the external HDD? blinking lights on the USB? black screen after seeing GRUB menu? things like that can help..	23:21
bmccoy11	It doesn't just shrink the partition?	23:21
qwk	i couldnt find the config file etc	23:21
bprompt	qwk: try a quick -> sudo apt-get check <--- will list who and what's missing, --> sudo apt-get -f install <--- will attempt to fix the installations	23:21
qwk	like /etc/yaws.conf	23:21
qwk	ok, i will give it a shoot	23:22
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hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: you cant shrink a live filesystem, so since windows is running it can't shrink it. it creates a file that is used to house the wubi filesystem	23:22
bmccoy11	hitsujiTMO: How can I uninstall Ubuntu and reinstall it onto a seperate partition?	23:22
bmccoy11	Just delete the folder?	23:23
Ben64	there should be an uninstaller	23:23
bmccoy11	Also, will Windows still detect it on a seperate partition?	23:23
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: you can remove wubi from add/remove programs	23:23
bmccoy11	Oh. Dang.	23:24
bprompt	bmccoy11: usually you'd just reformat the partition, thus wiping it, just make sure you save any files you want saved	23:24
bmccoy11	Okay.	23:24
bmccoy11	I'll just shrink it for now.	23:24
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qwk	oh it worked now	23:25
bmccoy11	Why doesn't 13.10 detect my OS though?	23:25
bprompt	bmccoy11: 13.10 detect? who?	23:25
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: i presume you have windows installed as mbr, so you meed to make sure you boot ubuntu in bios/legacy mode	23:25
bmccoy11	I already do. :D	23:25
bmccoy11	I don't have a UEFI motherboard.	23:25
dupingping86	who is developing fuseftp?	23:25
qwk	the thing was it was located in /etc/init.d/yaws instead of /etc/yaws.conf as in Arch	23:25
Ben64	qwk: /etc/init.d/yaws is not the config file	23:26
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: ok, when you are ready can you boot to the ubuntu live cd and we can have a look from there. you can connect to here in xchat or via the web chat interface	23:26
bmccoy11	It doesn't detect it, still. I'm using a regular BIOS and a fresh Windows 8.1 install on the stock partitioning.	23:26
ekristen	anyone having a problem installing git on 12.10?	23:26
bprompt	bmccoy11: you just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and it only boots to Ubuntu, leaving windows off the Grub menu?	23:27
bmccoy11	I installed the LTS version.	23:27
dupingping86	dragonfly: ?	23:27
bmccoy11	Off of WUBI.	23:27
bprompt	bmccoy11: tried -> sudo update-grub <-- yet ?	23:28
bmccoy11	bprompt: that isn't my problem at all.	23:28
SonikkuAmerica	bmccoy11: Why are you using Wubi anyway?	23:28
bmccoy11	...	23:28
bprompt	ahemm... alright	23:28
bmccoy11	Because I didn't want to partition it p.	23:28
bmccoy11	*it	23:28
MonkeyDust	bmccoy11 wubi is a windows application, it's not a real installation	23:29
bmccoy11	I didn't want to have to risk having to reinstall Windows again.	23:29
bmccoy11	I know.	23:29
bmccoy11	It should work, though.	23:29
MonkeyDust	bmccoy11 and wubi cannot be upgraded	23:29
bmccoy11	Oh.	23:29
dupingping86	give me MACOS style with GTK3+?	23:29
MonkeyDust	bmccoy11 because it is not real	23:30
bmccoy11	Well, why doesn't 13.10 detect Windows???	23:30
bmccoy11	It just says that my entire disk is unpartitioned.	23:30
siren_face2000	weird. Everything seems fine	23:30
dupingping86	give me MACOS style with GTK3+? on ubuntu12.04 I using	23:30
Ben64	bmccoy11: you keep saying that, come back using the livecd and we can find out why	23:30
siren_face2000	Can I give you guys an idea of what my BIOS looks like?	23:30
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: ok, when you are ready can you boot to the ubuntu live cd and we can have a look from there. you can connect to here in xchat or via the web chat interface	23:31
bmccoy11	Okay. Let me re-write 13.04 to the USB drive.	23:31
bmccoy11	*13.10	23:31
bmccoy11	Derp	23:31
bmccoy11	I'm on my Nexus, so no need to quit	23:31
intrz_	where do i find aa-complains?	23:31
jellow	is it safe to chown a remote file-system mounted over sshfs to gain non-root access ?	23:32
MonkeyDust	intrz_ "aa-complains"?	23:32
intrz_	MonkeyDust: I am trying to install a brother printer.. says I need aa-complains, but I can't find it	23:33
intrz_	looks like it was in an old ubuntu version	23:33
bmccoy11	Hang in there, folks.	23:34
hitsujiTMO	intrz_: try installing apparmor-utils	23:36
hitsujiTMO	!find aa-complain	23:37
ubottu	File aa-complain found in apparmor-utils	23:37
eoss	Is there a way to name a cronjob?	23:37
intrz_	hitsujiTMO: I installed apparmor which looked like was supposed to replace apparmor-utils, but didn't contain aa-complain...	23:37
bmccoy11	Booting to the Live USB...	23:38
ekristen	anyone have a recommendation for a npm caching proxy?	23:39
hitsujiTMO	intrz_: make sure that package is installed, its not installed by default. is should then created the bin in /usr/sbin/aa-complain	23:39
intrz_	hm ok thanks	23:39
hitsujiTMO	ekristen: https://npmjs.org/package/npm-proxy-cache anygood?	23:40
bmccoy11	Clicked "Continue"	23:40
bmccoy11	Not going to connect to the internet yet.	23:40
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: please do, will make it easier to get us info	23:41
bmccoy11	Okay	23:41
bmccoy11	Whelp, I'm not at the prompt to do that just yet, so that's good to know	23:41
glitsj16	eoss: if you mean putting a cronjob file into one of the /etc/cron.d or /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} directories then yes .. what are you trying to do exactly?	23:41
phatso	I just installed ubuntu in vbox and my resolution is 800X600. When I click the monitors icon it says unknown monitor and won't let me see any higher resolutions. I'd like it to be at least 1025X768 or preferably 1280X960	23:42
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: once you're into the desktop please run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit	23:42
bmccoy11	Okay.	23:42
intrz_	I have a computer I don't want to be online, because its security sensitive, but its a bit troublesome to download one by one deb package and move by usb stick.. might unbuntu open any ports or connect to any serveressomewhere if I just plug in the machine for a short while to install some packages?	23:42
bmccoy11	Well, I'm on the installer right now.	23:42
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: you should be able to cancel the installer and bring it to the desktop	23:43
bmccoy11	"This computer currently has no detected operating systems. What would you like to do?"	23:43
bmccoy11	"Free space: 1.0TB"	23:43
bmccoy11	I'll get pastebinit.	23:44
colDrMcBeardman	hi, i'm trying to get skype to work with 12.04 and i can only get video if i run it as root and the mic doesn't work.	23:45
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eoss	glitsj16: I am trying to name cronjobs so I can identify and stop them later at a certain time	23:45
bmccoy11	It's frozen on "Quitting"	23:46
eoss	glitsj16: I only need a cromnjob to run every 5 or 3 or 20 minutes for 8 or 16 or 32 hours, depending on user input, so its important I am able to create a 2nd cronjob at the time of the first, where the 2nd cronjob can identify the first cronjob and destroy it	23:46
hitsujiTMO	eoss: put a comment before the cronjob with a name	23:46
bmccoy11	Rebooting.	23:46
pvl1	is there a tasksel laptop on ubuntu	23:47
pvl1	or something like it	23:47
bmccoy11	"The application Keyboard Input Methods has closed unexpectedly"	23:47
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: ok, try rebooting ang just "try ubuntu" instead	23:48
eoss	hitsujiTMO: it would be possible to automate that as well?	23:49
bmccoy11	Getting pastebinit, hitsujiTMO	23:49
bmccoy11	Done.	23:49
bmccoy11	Now what?	23:49
bmccoy11		23:49
jeffrey_f	intrz_: Ubuntu will make http requests (wget) requests to the ubuntu site to update the repository lists and then pull the updates. On a decent connection, this shouldn't take more than just a few minutes. You can disconnect once the downloads are complete. Also, look into a hardened firewall between your sensitive system and your internet or even LAN	23:49
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: sudo apt-get install gdisk	23:50
sudormrf	hey guys, I am trying to get a cronjob setup, but it looks like I need to set the path for the command first. can I do something like this "/path/to/program --switches" in the crontab or is there a better way to accomplish this?	23:50
eoss	hitsujiTMO: i suppose my program could write to the crontab file, and then open and read it later to identify?	23:50
hitsujiTMO	eoss: thats what i would do	23:50
bmccoy11	Erm....	23:50
eoss	hitsujiTMO: thank you	23:50
intrz_	jeffrey_f: thanks	23:50
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: then: sudo fdisk -l \| pastebinit && sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda \| pastebinit	23:51
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: that should generate 2 urls, can you paste the 2 urls here	23:53
bmccoy11	Okay	23:53
bmccoy11	-L?	23:54
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: yup. small L. that lists the partitions	23:55
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bmccoy11	Okay.	23:55
bmccoy11	http://paste.ubuntu.com/6835012/	23:56
jeffrey_f	intrz_: There are few ports open in Ubuntu. Unless you have a service running, there should be no ports listening therefore few, if any, routes to endanger your system......Nothing should be able to run without your express permission. Remember, this isn't Windows	23:56
glitsj16	sudormrf: that's what it takes yes, full paths .. you can also put all your commands/switches in a script and refer to that in crontab (also using the full path)	23:57
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bmccoy11	"WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda' The until disk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.	23:58
bmccoy11	*fdisk	23:58
hitsujiTMO	bmccoy11: and i think i see where the issue is already :P	23:58
bmccoy11	Good.	23:59
bmccoy11	:D	23:59
bmccoy11	O	23:59

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