[00:00] <sudormrf> funky, I looked at rackspace, but they want a minimum of 5 accounts.
[00:00] <sudormrf> so $10/month.
[00:00] <funky> well buy 5
[00:00] <sudormrf> :P
[00:00] <funky> they are solid
[00:00] <sudormrf> I know they have crazy uptime.
[00:00] <funky> yep
[00:00] <sudormrf> am just shopping around for other options.
[00:00] <ff29> anyone able to help me out http://askubuntu.com/questions/411826/error-installing-amd-graphics-driver-in-13-10
[00:01] <sudonoob> TJ: /var/log/Xorg.0.log permissoin denied
[00:01] <sudormrf> at 10/month iCloud ends up being a bit cheaper, with a gotcha.
[00:01] <sudormrf> iCloud 50GB plan = $100/year = $8.33/month
[00:01] <sudormrf> granted, that isn't my own domain.
[00:01] <TJ-> sudonoob: "sudo pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:01] <luca> "Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"
[00:02] <sudormrf> luca, sounds like the version of linux you are trying to install won't work with your CPU
[00:02] <funky> hehe
[00:02] <sudormrf> luca, meaning, your CPU may not support 64bit architecture but you are trying to install a 64 bit OS
[00:02] <funky> anyone? how I can find mass replace string in files?
[00:02] <jhutchins> sudormrf: gmail is pretty much the best game around.
[00:02] <luca> sudormrf, yes I was running it on virtualbox. It is Xubuntu 13.10. Maybe the proble, is PAE flag
[00:03] <sudonooobb> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829234/
[00:03] <TJ-> funky: "man sed"
[00:03] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit <- should workie.
[00:03] <Jeruvy> funky sed/awk are worth investigating.
[00:03] <jhutchins> sudormrf: Some of the domain registrars will include or sell you email services as well.  That takes care of the address change.
[00:03] <funky> which one is easier?
[00:03] <sudormrf> jhutchins, I would prefer not to have all of my emails scanned so they can target ads.
[00:03] <Stonegate> Hi Everyone
[00:03] <sudormrf> luca, depends on your vbox settings and your host computer.
[00:03] <jhutchins> funky: For one-off jobs vi works well.
[00:04] <sudormrf> jhutchins, I saw that, but I wasn't sure how reliable they are.
[00:04] <funky> nice joles
[00:04] <funky> jokeds
[00:04] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: link above mate :)
[00:04] <funky> I simply download to win them and use N++
[00:04] <funky> easier
[00:04] <Stonegate> i have a small problem.. i just updated my kernel on a box and now it cant start the ETH0 network device anymore.. can anyone assist me to get the box online again ? i think it might be something udev or kernel related but i cannot find out what it is.
[00:04] <funky> is there just simple command to do it?
[00:04] <luca> sudormr, really? doesn't depend on my CPU??
[00:04] <funky> like grep is to find string
[00:04] <funky> but to replace it after?
[00:05] <sudormrf> luca, it does, thats why I said your vbox settings AND your host
[00:05] <luc_> anyone knows the on demand service?
[00:05] <funky> for what?
[00:05] <funky> luc
[00:05] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: roget that, looking too.
[00:05] <luc_> how can config it?
[00:05] <funky> sed -i 's/old-word/new-word/g' *.txt
 cpu scaling
[00:05] <funky> luc aws
[00:05] <funky> is very very nice
[00:06] <luca> sudormrf, they suggest me to install Xubuntu 12.04 always on my virtualbox
 aws? what is it?
[00:06] <funky> sed -i 's/old-word/new-word/g' *.txt will that do resursive replacement?
[00:06] <funky> amazon cloud
[00:06] <funky> so nice
[00:07] <sudormrf> luca, I don't know who "they" are.  You need to know about your host.  does it have a CPU that can support 64 architecture? is it an ARM CPU? etc.  start there.  once you know that you should be able to figure out which CD to download to get your VM setup.
 do you know onDemand service?? is about cpu scaling...
[00:07] <TJ-> sudonoob: "DISPLAY=:0.0 glxinfo | pastebinit"
[00:07] <bob876> TJ: I'll try reproducing the issue with the nvidia binary.
[00:07] <TJ-> bob876: OK, good luck, MCEs are hard to track down
[00:07] <luca> sudormrf, how can I find this information?
[00:08] <sudormrf> what OS is your host?
[00:08] <sudormrf> luca, what OS is your host running?
[00:08] <funky> luc yes use AWS
 i need a config tutorial
[00:08] <funky> u can scale it so much
[00:08] <funky> luc for what?
[00:08] <luca> sudormrf, Ubuntu 11.10
[00:08] <funky> config what?
[00:08] <funky> just go to aws and its easy to scale anything
[00:08] <Stonegate> can anyone help me with my box missing its ETH0 Device after Kernel Upgrade ?
[00:09] <sudonooobb> The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
 a service running on my ubuntu, called onDemando
 onDemand
[00:10] <sudormrf> luca, look for something called "details" or "system details" to see it graphically.  more /proc/cpuinfo from CLI.
[00:11] <K`zan> Hi folks,  Got a problem with having 4 sound devices,  seems that various things use different ones.  I have PulseAudio, HDA ATI SB, USB Device 0x46d: 0x81d and HDA Nvidia.  lsusb shows nothing with the USB device ID.   What do I do to narrow it down to one only (I *think* I want just the PulseAudio, even if its mixer has very few options?)
[00:12] <K`zan> Correction, I think the one I want is HDA ATI SB...
[00:13] <nevyn> K`zan: no you want pulseaudio
[00:14] <luca>    sudormrf, it's a CPU 1,50 GHz
[00:15] <K`zan> nevyn: Only one control listed on that, capture for input and master for output.  Lots more inputs and outputs on the back of the box?!?
[00:15] <jhutchins> luca: That tells us almost nothing.
[00:15] <jhutchins> luca: Intel?  Amd?  Arm?  32b? 64b?
[00:16] <K`zan> nevyn: Also, it seems that different programs use different device, turn off all sound and I still get various things making noise.
[00:16] <nevyn> so those apps are misconfigured.
[00:16] <luca> jhutchins, Intel
[00:17] <K`zan> nevyn: If so they are not configurable, apparently they take whatever they find ?first?
[00:17] <nevyn> K`zan: apps should always talk to  pulse using libpulse or the alsa pulse pcm  if they don't need/want direct pulse graph awareness
[00:17] <luca> jhutchins, address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
[00:18] <nevyn> K`zan: which app are you speaking of?
[00:18] <K`zan> nevyn: I'm about to disable the MB audio and put in an old SB card.
[00:18] <Bashing-om> sudormrf: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils <- do it.
[00:18] <nevyn> so if you turn off all sound?  what still makes noise?
[00:18] <nevyn> K`zan: have you messed with alsa control files?
[00:19] <Bashing-om> sudormrf: Soory apologize
[00:19] <K`zan> nevyn: Some of the KDE4 apps still make noise (no option to disable sound in the app).  Some of the add-ins for X-Plane also override the "all sound off too".
[00:19] <K`zan> nevyn: No Sir, stock out of the box 12.04 and TDE
[00:20] <Bashing-om> sudonooobb: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils <- do it.
[00:20] <nevyn> when you say all sound off how are you setting that?
[00:20] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: installed the mesa-tuls and when i run the /var/log I get access denied
[00:21] <K`zan> nevyn: Control panel.  Start-> system settings -> notifications and sound system.
[00:22] <nevyn> hrm
[00:22] <nevyn> do you have a volume control widget?
[00:22] <TJ-> sudonoob: "DISPLAY=:0.0 glxinfo | pastebinit"
[00:23] <K`zan> nevyn: Sound system unchecked and all greyed out.   Notifications, quick controls, turn off all sounds.
[00:23] <Stonegate> Hey guys! i have a small problem.. i just updated my kernel on a box and now it cant start the ETH0 network device anymore.. it says: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth0
[00:23] <sudonooobb> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829303/
[00:23] <K`zan> nevyn: Yes, kmix with 4 sound devices to choose from, mixer defaults to PulseAudio.
[00:24] <gustavo> how to run command linux in computer remote ?
[00:25] <genii> gustavo: You mean ssh?
[00:25] <K`zan> nevyn: PulseAudio gives me no control over anything but Master output and Capture input.  The HDA ATI SB seems to have all the various inputs and outputs.
[00:25] <TJ-> sudonoob: I was expecting to see more, maybe we need a slightly different command: "glxinfo | pastebinit"
[00:25] <genii> gustavo: Like, you want to type in commands at a remote computer from the computer you are at right now?
[00:25] <nevyn> K`zan: life is slithely more naunced than that.
[00:26] <sudormrf> luca, that doesn't answer the question.  pastebin it.  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:26] <sudormrf> luca, pastebin the output of the command
[00:26] <sudonooobb> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829314/
[00:26] <nevyn> K`zan: What are you trying to do exactly?
[00:27] <TJ-> sudonoob: Bashing-om: To me, that output looks like its missing significant bits, which suggests no OpenGL driver, but I don't have Intel hardware available to test against right now
[00:27] <sudonooobb> TJ: I also set Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[00:28] <sh0t> ragazzi come faccio a disabilitare una certa interfaccia di rete? Vorrei che al boot non venga attivata.
[00:28] <K`zan> nevyn: :-), yes it is, trying to get control over sound, rather than it being (apparently?!?) scattered over various devices (I *assume* that is what is going on, google was no help at all.  And yes, I am surely confused.  The old SB Live card in the drawer is looking better and better :-).
[00:28] <gustavo> genii, Yes
[00:28] <nevyn> adding more sound devices will make this worse not better.
[00:29] <sasha|> O hai, I have an issue with my keyboard and trackpad
[00:29] <sasha|> After booting, the keyboard responds very poorly, and the trackpad doesn't wor
[00:29] <nevyn> configuring pulseaudio correctly will let you do what you want and flexibly move things between devices if required.
[00:29] <nevyn> K`zan: ^^
[00:29] <sasha|> *work. To fix this, I have to manualy disable and enable them through a script. I'd like to find out why this is happening and fix it in the future.
[00:29] <K`zan> nevyn: I can disable onboard sound in  BIOS, that is what lead me to think about the SB card after frustrating hours of googling :-).
[00:29] <sasha|> Here's a video that shows what happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXd8AWiXLdw
[00:29] <genii> gustavo: Yes, so then the usual tool in Linux is ssh. The machine you want to reach runs the ssh server part, and then you use the ssh client part to connect to it, either by it's IP or by it's domain-name
[00:29] <sh0t> magari basta un ifconfig down in qualche script iniziale?
[00:30] <sh0t> o sorry this is in english ahah :)
[00:30] <nevyn> K`zan: it really won't help your problem
[00:30] <K`zan> nevyn: Lemme google setting up pulseaudio and see if I can work it out from that.  Thanks for cutting down on my confusion with all the devices :).
[00:31] <nevyn> K`zan: assuming you want normal things (skype/voip/mumble audio in a headset and ring on speakers etc) pa is the way to go
[00:31] <sh0t> Guys oh can I disable a net interface? I don't want it to be enabled at the boot. Is there a more elegant solution than an ifconfig down in an initial script?
[00:31] <nevyn> K`zan: it is very very powerful.
[00:31] <sh0t> *how
[00:31] <K`zan> nevyn: Good, my roomie also has the same problem, can't get mic input to work for Skype, been pulling my hair out with that one too...
[00:32] <fishcooker> is it possible to configure wlan0 automatically dhcp
[00:32] <fishcooker> ?
[00:32] <K`zan> nevyn: Thanks so much!!!!!  Hopefully I can find the answer on how to do that :-).
[00:32] <nevyn> so linux audio needs a good blog post I've been meaning to write for some time.
[00:32] <nevyn> but the layers are something likethis:
[00:32] <fishcooker> i've followed this http://prupert.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/how-to-configure-wireless-wifi-networking-in-ubuntu-via-the-command-line-cli/
[00:33] <K`zan> nevyn: It would certainly help, sound has always been problematical / confusing.  Worse now with the myriad of sources on the newer MBs.
[00:33] <nevyn> K`zan: the first thing to understand is that alsa. means about 4 things.
[00:33] <gustavo> genial, genial, I'm giving support to an user noob in Linux. It not know run commands linux. I need run the commands linux for him through remote.
[00:33] <fishcooker> but no luck.. is it problem when i set wpa-proto to RSN rather than WPA
[00:33] <nevyn> Drivers, the userspace library and the api interface for talking to a pcm.
[00:33] <K`zan> nevyn: ALSA and PA?  Uhhh, arghhhhh :)
[00:34] <nevyn> so PA is really a missing component of ALSA
[00:34] <nevyn> it replaces (mostly) the userspace library with something much more capable.
[00:34] <TJ-> sh0t: Yes, simply set it to "manual" in "/etc/network/interfaces" or, if it is managed by Network-Manager, disable the auto-connect option
[00:35] <nevyn> and provides a pcm  for apps to talk to which get's audio intopulse from apps that don't know about it.
[00:35] <nevyn> so. Apps do not need to know about pulse to use it. if your alsa is configured correctly (default.!pcm = pulse)
[00:35] <K`zan> nevyn: Does that mean that I need to install ALSA packages (alsa-base, alsa utils)?
[00:36] <Jordan_U> gustavo: What is your native language? You may find it easier to get support in one of the Ubuntu IRC channels in your language.
[00:36] <nevyn> no.
[00:36] <ezrhino> hello. I see my video driver is now something called nvidia_331. is this downgraded?
[00:36] <markovirc_> Hello ezrhino
[00:36] <nevyn> alsa-base is the alsa userspace libraries.
[00:36] <sh0t> TJ-, it is managed by Netork Manager by i don't want that so i just add manual to /etc/network/interfaces and networkmanager should ignore it right?
[00:36] <K`zan> nevyn: No alsa modules loaded (lsmod | grep alsa)
[00:37] <ezrhino> what is Nvidia_331.20? Is it new?
[00:37] <nevyn> K`zan: rubbish
[00:37] <nevyn> lsmod|grep snd
[00:38] <Guest76766> I have a problem with skype on ubuntu 10.04, when i try to join with a microsoft account it dosnt work when i click that option
[00:38] <sh0t> let's see thanks guys
[00:38] <K`zan> nevyn: Thanks, gives me about 20 modules
[00:39] <nevyn> so those are the Drivers.
[00:39] <K`zan> nevyn: but nothing to do with alsa
[00:39] <nevyn> theyre now maintained mostly in kernel using kernel processes.
[00:39] <nevyn> they're the alsa drivers
[00:39] <nevyn> as opposed to the oss drivers.
[00:40] <K`zan> nevyn: Thanks, but it just adds to the confusion, nothing for pulseaudio either.
[00:40] <nevyn> pulseaudio has no kernel componetns
[00:41] <miguelangello> I have a problem with skype on ubuntu 10.04, when i try to join with a microsoft account it dosnt work, when i click that option skype ask me again for a skype user and dosnt ask for a microsoft account somebody could help me?
[00:41] <K`zan> nevyn: OK, do I need to blacklist or is it a matter of configuration files?
[00:41] <nevyn> K`zan: stop.
[00:41] <K`zan> nevyn: Easily done Sir :-)
[00:42] <nevyn> K`zan: if you can hear sound at all.. do not mess with the kernel configuration.
[00:42] <K`zan> nevyn: Got audiom so OK, good to know.  Confusing but good to know.  LOTS of stuff there...
[00:42] <nevyn> if you want to get into specifics of your configuration I'll need a snapshot of what it looks like.
[00:42] <luca> sudormrf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829379/
[00:43] <Bashing-om> miguelangello: A server installation ?
[00:43] <nevyn> at a terminal run wget http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh then run it.
[00:43] <JayF> What package creates the "netdev" group in ubuntu server?
[00:43] <K`zan> nevyn:  got it, running now.
[00:44] <miguelangello> Bashing-om, what do you mean, excuse me im new on ubuntu
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> miguelangello: he means 10.04 desktop is no longer supported
[00:44] <black_angel> hey, guys, i've installed nvidia_331 driver, but it always display: This driver is activated but not currently in use.
[00:44] <markovirc_> Hello black_angel
[00:45] <K`zan> nevyn:  send it to alsa-project.org or pastebin it somewhere?
[00:45] <miguelangello> hitsujiTMO,  i have that version because i hava an old laptop, do you recommend me to upgrade?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> miguelangello: UHMMM, i this is a server, maybe, if it is a desktop; well, 10.04 reached End Of Life last year, and is no longer supported. Ya need to upgrade to a current version.
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> miguelangello: yes, you should upgrade to 12.04
[00:47] <black_angel> And I've tried to using 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' command and reboot, after that, ubuntu just using 800x640
[00:47] <nevyn> K`zan: either or.
[00:47] <miguelangello> hitsujiTMO, could i upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 or do i have to do a new os installation?
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> !upgrade | miguelangello
[00:47] <K`zan> y
[00:48] <black_angel> is there any suggestion of using the new nvidia driver?
[00:48] <miguelangello> hitsujiTMO,  thanks
[00:48] <K`zan> nevyn:  Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=dca8e93ea355a3e8aaf24ee8b0d3c11178af73ed
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: why have you installed an unsupported driver?
[00:49] <nevyn> K`zan: ok.
[00:49] <K`zan> nevyn: ?
[00:50] <nevyn> so you have 3 sound devices.
[00:50] <miguelangello> hitsujiTMO, one more question, wont i have problem with hardware requirements with 12.04 version?
[00:50] <nevyn> the onboard analog card, a usb soundcard and a HDMI output?
[00:50] <K`zan> nevyn: err, 4 show up in the mixer
[00:50] <K`zan> I have no USB sound device, although it shows one.
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> miguelangello: how much ram do you have? what processor?
[00:50] <nevyn> so mixers are a different ballpark...
[00:51] <nevyn> I'll get to that.
[00:51] <nevyn> do you have a webcam with microphone?
[00:51] <miguelangello> hitsujiTMO,  1 gb ram ddr2 and 1.86 ghz 32 bits
[00:51] <black_angel> hitsujiTMO: why the nvidia_331 is an unsupported driver?
[00:51] <daftykins> black_angel: what card do you have?
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> miguelangello: you might be better off with lubuntu then
[00:51] <K`zan> nevyn: Really appreciate this.  Got webcam, but I do not know if it has a mic, makes sense, lemme check.
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: its not in the repo, therefore unsupported. Do you have a reason to use it?
[00:52] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: the nvidia-331 is in precise-updates ..
[00:52] <K`zan> nevyn: Logitech, Inc. HD Webcam C510  Lemme google it, got it ages ago never used it (planned for skype).
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: since when?
[00:53] <miguelangello> hitsujiTMO,  i see 10.04 working good for me but i dont know 12.04 i will try it
[00:53] <nevyn> K`zan: yeah that'll be it.
[00:53] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: don't know, just found out
[00:53] <liaise> hi there--if I want to take two wifi nics and bridge them, should i use ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop??
[00:53] <black_angel> hitsujiTMO: cause i'm using precise now
[00:53] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=nvidia-331
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: o.O
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: sorry, it must have been added recently
[00:54] <Bashing-om> miguelangello: If I may, 12.04 ubuntu/unity will not give you a good experience. Lubuntu will fly and the desk top is more similar to what you are accustomed to.
[00:54] <K`zan> nevyn: OK, manual is taking forever...
[00:54] <nevyn> meh.
[00:54] <nevyn> not important.
[00:54] <nevyn> it's only input.
[00:55] <K`zan> nevyn: Yes, it does.
[00:55] <black_angel> so the question is now, how to using the new driver?
[00:55] <ryanw> Hi. Is it possible to make "wc -l" understand OS9 line endings?
[00:55] <markovirc_> Hello ryanw
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: so you installed if from the repo? what gpu do you have?
[00:56] <markimpgs> guys can not switch to the high performance video Graphics amd / ati when run the script to change is a black screen and I have to force shut down
[00:56] <daftykins> black_angel: which hardware are you using?
[00:56] <liaise> hi there--if I want to take two wifi nics and bridge them, should i use ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop??
[00:56] <miguelangello> Bashing-om,  thanks
[00:56] <daftykins> liaise: why on earth do you want to bridge two wireless interfaces? D:
[00:57] <nevyn> K`zan: so x-plane may have a good reason to go around PA directly to hw:0
[00:57] <ryanw> liaise: doesn't really matter.
[00:57] <Bashing-om> miguelangello: no :D
[00:57] <black_angel> when i used 'lspci | grep -i vga', it display me : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1058 (rev a1)
[00:57] <liaise> my apartment complex' wifi allows only one mac address at a time
[00:57] <liaise> it's evil
[00:57] <K`zan> nevyn: OK...
[00:57] <liaise> i want to set the internet free
[00:57] <daftykins> black_angel: laptop or desktop?
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:57] <liaise> so i'm not really bridging, i'm running a dhcp server
[00:57] <liaise> anyone know the answer to this one?
[00:58] <black_angel> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1058] (rev a1)
[00:58] <black_angel> I'm using Thinkpad E430
[00:58] <liaise> no?
[00:58]  * nevyn is getting a scriptkiddie feeling...
[00:58] <Bashing-om> miguelangello: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: a 610M ?
[00:58] <liaise> there there nevyn.  you're not a scriptkiddie
[00:59] <black_angel> hitsujiTMO: I think so.
[00:59] <daftykins> black_angel: looks like an nvidia optimus setup, you can't install nvidia drivers normally. you're going to either have to run the intel on its' own, or look into bumblebee / alternatives. but proper optimus support is only coming in 14.04
[00:59] <daftykins> black_angel: this is why you get a stuck low resolution when trying to install nvidia's drivers
[00:59] <black_angel> daftykins: omg
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf    if you created one
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> !bumblebee | black_angel this might help you get the optimus working
[01:00] <daftykins> keep forgetting the name of the bumblebee alternative, the new ne
[01:00] <daftykins> *new one
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> nvidia-prime
[01:00] <daftykins> yep, ty sir
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> 13.10+ for it
[01:01] <daftykins> seems to require sort of hacked on newer X.org versions etc too?
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> never kernel + newer xorg. it could work in 12.04.4 on saucy enablement stack technically
[01:02] <nevyn> man.. arlied should be shot for that pun
[01:03] <black_angel> hitsujiTMO: yep, i've remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it becomes normal but can't using any 3D acceleration.
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> daftykins: o.O seems they did add it to 12.04 aswell
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime
[01:04] <daftykins> hitsujiTMO: i think you have to fiddle around with hacking on a precise kernel then many other steps
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> daftykins: as long as they're on the saucy lts enablement stack it should work
[01:05] <daftykins> what's required for that?
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: whats the output of: uname -r
[01:06] <black_angel> hitsujiTMO: 3.2.0-58-generic-pae
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: ahh, dont install nvidia-prime then
[01:07] <K`zan> nevyn: ?
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: are you on 32bit?
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: you choices are either https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee or add the saucy lts enablement stack + nvidia-prime: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[01:09] <black_angel> hitsujiTMO: yep. 32-bits
[01:09] <black_angel> hitsujiTMO: why do not install nvidia-prime?
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> black_angel: you need kernel 3.9 or xorg 1.14 to use it. so you'd need to update to the saucy lts enablement stack first
[01:11] <nevyn> K`zan: ok. kde first.
[01:11] <nevyn> configure the phonon system in kde to use the gstreamer backend and use pulseaudio
[01:12] <black_angel> hitsujiTMO: thanks, man
[01:15] <K`zan> nevyn: Got the word that dinner is ON THE TABLE :-), back in a bit, thanks VERY much, bbasap!
[01:15] <nevyn> ok.
[01:15] <liaise> hi there--if I want to take two wifi nics and bridge them, should i use ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop??
[01:16] <gr33n7007h> liaise, why don't you change your mac address to the same one as your connected to see if that works
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> liaise: it doesn't matter. use server if you dont actually need a desktop
[01:17] <liaise> hitsujiTMO, kk thanks
[01:17] <liaise> but any idea on how to get the two NICS to work like that?
[01:17] <liaise> i want it to act as a router, except instead of an ethernet connection, it's a wifi NIC
[01:17] <liaise> so i'd have to run dhcp
[01:17] <liaise> but this is way over my head i need help
[01:17] <liaise> HALP
[01:18] <liaise> SOMEBODY HALP ME WITH MY DHCP
[01:18] <ryanw> Probably not the best way to get help
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> liaise: you'd have to get 1 running in ap mode
[01:18] <liaise> yes,  exactly
[01:18] <liaise> how do you do that?
[01:18] <liaise> ap mode activate?
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> liaise: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode
[01:19] <liaise> computer, set external USB NIC to be an AP that gives out internal addresses via DHCP
[01:19] <liaise> hitsujiTMO, thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:20] <liaise> hitsujiTMO, thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> liaise: lol, np
[01:21] <bmccoy11> Can I put a live CD on an SD Card reader?
[01:21] <Norith> Is there a good repo to get a 3.13 kernel on saucy?
[01:21] <handlebar> !info darktable > handlebar
[01:22] <ryanw> bmccoy11: you can put it on an SD card, yeah.
[01:22] <Norith> Or, more specifically, is there any reason that I can't install a 3.13 kernel from kernel-ppa mainline that's tagged with trusty?
[01:22] <Jabo> bmccoy11: as long as the machine can boot from the SD card
[01:22] <bmccoy11> Okay.
[01:23] <syntroPi> Wen using a laptop with 13.10 x64 do i really need a separate swap partition for standby working or can i also put the swapfile on the systempartiton too?
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> Norith: use the trust one. its only a name
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> Norith: do you have a good reason to use 3.13?
[01:23] <ryanw> syntroPi: I don't think there is a swapfile, just a swap partition.
[01:24] <ryanw> Been a while since I messed with that stuff though
[01:24] <Norith> hitsujiTMO: Well, I'm having some issues with the Intel 7260 Wifi adapter in my y410 Lenovo laptop.  The -7 firmware that works with 3.10 isn't fixing the issue, so i wanted to try the next revision against 3.13
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: a swap partition is preffered over a swap file.
[01:26] <syntroPi> ryanw, hitsujiTMO its possible to make a swapfile on system (eg ext4 fs) and) and mount it via fstab, im just not sure if standby works with that. the reason is i need mbr with 1 efi-boot, 1 linux-sys, 1 linux-home and one windows-sys primary partition, so none is left for swap. Any suggestions for such a setup?
[01:26] <liaise> who wants to take me to a truck stop and fuck me in a McDonald's bathroom jackhammer style on top of the baby changing station?
[01:27] <Norith> syntroPi: swap and home can be extended partitions
[01:28] <Norith> syntroPi: or use LVMs for your linux partitions
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: if you're using uefi then you have a gpt patition layout which has a limit of 128 partitions, not 4
[01:30] <syntroPi> Norith, hmm might me a good choice, when requiring one uefi-boot fat32 and one windows-sys primary mbr partition how would you recommend to install the linux so standby and swap is working for it?
[01:30] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, yes with gpt it would be like this, but i really need mbr layout for that windows-sys
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: then you don't need an efi partition
[01:31] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, hmm but if i want to boot in efi mode wouldnt i need efi partition for that then?
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: you CANNOT boot uefi on an mbr partition. mbr is for BIOS, gpt is for UEFI
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: you must have both OS's installed as either uefi, or bios mode.
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: why do you need mbr for windows?
[01:33] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, hmm but i already did install ubuntu in uefi mode on mbr setup i just now need to add one windows-sys
[01:34] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, there is one "special" reason for this, believe me ;-)
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: you'll break the partition table for ubuntu if you try to install windows in mbr. why not install it in uefi mode?
[01:36] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, yes uefi mode both for linux and windows on mbr
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: are you on the ubuntu on that machine now?
[01:36] <syntroPi> so i need one uefi-boot, one linux-sys, one linux-home and one windows-sys
[01:37] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, yes but now booted from cd
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[01:38] <qwebirc759393> The screen to my laptop in KDE/Openbox goes black when I close the lid. Any way to fix this?
[01:39] <advx> Hi all, Good Morning
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc759393: thats normal. do you mean it fails to come up after you reopen the lid?
[01:40] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829588/
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: and thats with ubuntu installed and booting in uefi?
[01:42] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, yes it is (uefi, sys, swp, home) here is complete output of it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829591/   though right now im on livecd
[01:44] <qwebirc759393> hitsujiTMO - If I close the lid the screen goes black and I could not get my screen to come back on.  I tried every keyboard shortcut I could think of and nothing worked.  So I had to reboot and here I am.
[01:46] <k_sze[work]> Hello
[01:46] <markovirc_> Hello k_sze[work]
[01:46] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, hmm maybe i should use something like {uefi-boot/fat32, linux-lvm for sys and home, swap, windows-sys}... Is such a layout possible for uefi?
[01:46] <k_sze[work]> oops, wrong channel
[01:46] <gr33n7007h> bot alert
[01:47] <qwebirc759393> If I am logged into KDE/Openbox from Ubuntu 12.04, close the lid and reopen the lid, the screen stays black.  I want to know how to fix this so it does not happen the next time.
[01:47] <rww> gr33n7007h: hrm?
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: it is. but your /dev/sda1 isn't an efi system partition btw
[01:49] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, hmm well it boots in uefi mode from this.
[01:49] <gr33n7007h> rww, nothing
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: actually sorry, the windows partition cannot go onto an LVM. it needs to be on a pri partition. the rest can go on tho. but an extended partition would be better
[01:53] <qwebirc759393> hitsujiTMO - yes.
[01:55] <glitsj16> qwebirc759393: how did you configure your power settings? there should be something related to what you want to happen on lid close .. and i think you just needed to press the power button to bring the screen back (never used KDE so wording might differ)
[01:55] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, hmm i am not too familiar with lvm, but isnt it just a subdivision of a mbr primary partition? if so i would just want to use it for linux-sys and linux-home and all the others primary mbr's. if thats possible at all
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: no, thats extended partition. lvm is a whole different ballgame. its a partition in itself, that has some advanced features that you'll prob never use
[01:58] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, are you sure a mixed lvm/mbr setup is not possible (as i said im not familiar with lvm)
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: you can use lvm, just not with windows tho.
[02:00] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, so its either lvm for whole /dev/sda or mbr for the whole disk? i cant use windows mbr and ontop of one mbr a linux lvm to subdivide it in lnx-sys/home?
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: no, gpt all of /dev/sda or mbr /dev/sda
[02:02] <qwebirc759393> glitsj16 - my screen power settings seem fine. I have it set to do nothing when the lid is closed.
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: lvm is a partition in itself. that you can put you linux partitions into into, but you need to leave all but /boot out of it
[02:04] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, you mean external /boot and swap and rest of linux in lvm?
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: yup
[02:04] <glitsj16> qwebirc759393: perhaps this might help, but like i said .. not sure if this is still the correct info on current KDE --> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/powerdevil/
[02:06] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, hmm can i combine uefi-boot and /boot in one mbr fat32? how big should /boot be then?
[02:07] <hitsujiTMO> syntroPi: no. /boot must be a linux file system. 200mb+ is good
[02:07] <syntroPi> ok thx
[02:21] <K`zan> nevyn: Back, apologies, she who commands the kitchen has been appeased :-).
[02:28] <syntroPi> hitsujiTMO, hmm seems there is no way for separate linux-sys and linux-home on mbr, so i would need uefi, linux, swap, windows instead
[02:30] <nevyn> mmm..
[02:31] <jester792514> Hello! Can anyone address a rack server question?
[02:31] <markovirc_> Hello jester792514
[02:31] <advx> bye 4 now..
[02:31] <Marknat> Hello jester792514
[02:31] <jester792514> I'm trying to install and buy a new rackserver and see U sizes
[02:32] <jester792514> I don't know if rack servers are pretty standardized in which i can install any rack cpu into a encasing
[02:32] <jester792514> an*
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> jester792514: starting to sound like a question for #hardware
[02:33] <jester792514> ty
[02:33] <jester792514> !join #hardware
[02:33] <K`zan> nevyn: ?
[02:33] <nevyn> K`zan: lunchtime.
[02:33] <jester792514> sorry fail<
[02:33] <nevyn> actually it's afterlunchtime.
[02:33] <K`zan> Ah, understand, will stand by, thanks!
[02:34] <K`zan> nevyn: Ah, understand, will stand by, thanks!
[02:34] <K`zan> nevyn: Gotta fuel the furnace :-).
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> jester792514: sorry, that should be ##hardware
[02:34] <Ronie1> .
[02:35] <Ronie1> hello
[02:35] <markovirc_> Hello Ronie1
[02:35] <Ronie1> hello markovirc
[02:36] <nevyn> a/win 17
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> markovirc_: can you please disable your bot
[02:43] <lacrymology> just installed kubuntu in my girlfriend's laptop. It shipped with windows 8, and the battery life was HOURS (which is crazy, since it's got a huge screen), and now it's taking less than an hour to drain. Any pointers?
[02:44] <daftykins> lacrymology: can you link to the spec of it?
[02:44] <lacrymology> hm..
[02:44] <lacrymology> give me a minute
[02:44] <lacrymology> I used to know this
[02:44] <r0b-> anyone using ATI Vdeo cards in Ubuntu 13.10?
[02:45]  * r0b- cant seem to get the FGLRX Driver to work
[02:46] <daftykins> !ati | r0b-
[02:47] <r0b-> thanks daftykins
[02:47] <fabio123>  /j #intel-gfx
[02:48] <r0b-> sigh i have used this guide.
[02:48] <r0b-> it refused to work for me.
[02:48] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: what card do you have?
[02:48] <daftykins> r0b-: what happened exactly? any steps fail?
[02:48] <r0b-> HD6670
[02:48] <r0b-> my desktop refuses to come up.
[02:48] <r0b-> like i just see the wallpaper but cant do anything.
[02:49] <r0b-> the driver i used was Ati's 13.12 driver
[02:49] <Bashing-om> r0b-: Well, could be a case of no can do, AMD droped support for the 2/2/4X series of cards.
[02:50] <r0b-> this is supported. its HD6XXX series.
[02:50] <fabio123> nothing comes near the linux intel driver now
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: did you install driver from amd site?
[02:50] <r0b-> yes.
[02:50] <lacrymology> daftykins: I'm pretty sure it's this http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c03502358
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: remove thrm. install from the repo
[02:51] <r0b-> i have also tried the fglrx from repo
[02:51] <lacrymology> daftykins: I'm thinking along the lines of enabling the discrete video card
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: and what version of ubuntu is it?
[02:51] <r0b-> well its Xubuntu but 13.10
[02:52] <daftykins> lacrymology: hrmm AMD - yeah is it sporting a funky on-die APU *and* discrete graphics setup? i'd imagine it's giving full power to the discrete without necessarily being used
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: did you run: sudo aticonfig --initial
[02:52] <r0b-> yes.
[02:52] <lacrymology> "APU"?
[02:52] <lacrymology> what does "100%" mean in powertop?
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: can you get a terminal with ctrl + alt + t      ?
[02:52] <r0b-> hitsujiTMO: i think we talked yesterday.
[02:53] <r0b-> hang on.
[02:53] <lacrymology> and why the hell is my audio codec running "100%" if nothing's sounding
[02:53] <r0b-> let me install the repo driver again. and i will get bak to you
[02:53] <r0b-> fglrx or fglrx-updates?
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: uninstall the website ones first
[02:53] <r0b-> i did.
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> fglrx
[02:54] <r0b-> ok its installing.
[02:54] <r0b-> can i do the aticonfig over ssh or?
[02:54] <daftykins> lacrymology: i was going to suggest powertop but i'm not sure if it's well maintained
[02:55] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: delete the old /etc/X11/xorg.conf   before running: sudo aticonfig --initial
[02:55] <r0b-> ok
[02:55] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: yes running it over ssh should be fine
[02:55] <r0b-> ok. give me a few minutes sir :)
[02:56] <lacrymology> daftykins: funny, I turn off some tunables, and the wakeups/s ratio goes down
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !info fuse-utils
[02:58] <daftykins> lacrymology: what kinds of things are you turning off?
[02:58] <r0b-> ok hitsujiTMO just aticonfig --initial?
[02:59] <r0b-> as root or?
[02:59] <daftykins> or with sudo
[02:59] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: root or sudo
[02:59] <daftykins> only root can write xorg.conf
[02:59] <r0b-> ok
[03:00] <r0b-> ok now reboot?
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: yup
[03:00] <maujhsn> Can anybody tell me how to upgrade the vlc media player in ubuntu linux?
[03:00] <maujhsn> Currently using VLC media player 1.0.6 in ubuntu-10.04!
[03:01] <r0b-> ok hang on :)
[03:01] <r0b-> ok rebooting now.
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> maujhsn: you need to upgrade to 12.04. 10.04 is not supported
[03:03] <lacrymology> daftykins: it says "wireless power saving for interface wlan0", "Autosuspend for USB device foo", etc
[03:04] <daftykins> lacrymology: but yeah basically it sounds like there's on-die graphics with the CPU as well as graphics with the discrete, so you may want to look into whether that can be setup and either utilised/disabled
[03:05] <maujhsn> hitsujiTMO  If I don't upgrade to 12.04 than its probably best to leave vlc alone right?
[03:05] <r0b-> hitsujiTMO: nothing. just  wallpaper no mouse or task bar.
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> maujhsn: you cannoy
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> maujhsn: you cannot upgrade vlc or anything on 10.04 desktop
[03:06] <maujhsn> Why not?
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> maujhsn: its end of life. no longer supported
[03:07] <maujhsn> hitsujiTMO Yes ok that makes sense!
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: ok. can you open the terminal with ctrl + alt + t           then: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:07] <r0b-> im back in via SSH
[03:07] <lacrymology> another question... in chromium on ubuntu gnome, when I hit "save page as..." I get a "type" dropdown where I can select html only or webpage, complete. This second option saves all the media files,css, etc as well as the html. In kubuntu that option's not there
[03:08] <r0b-> what do you need?
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: then: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:08] <r0b-> its there.
[03:08] <r0b-> :)
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[03:08] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829892/
[03:09] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829893/
[03:09] <r0b-> first is Xorg the second is the xession-errors
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: cat `date` `ls -l ~/.xession-errors` | pastebinit
[03:11] <r0b-> that just made errors on terminal
[03:12] <r0b-> both .xession-error things bitch about brltty
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: date && pastebinit && ls -l ~/.xession-errors | pastebinit
[03:13] <r0b-> this command doesnt finish :)
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: sorry: date | pastebinit && ls -l ~/.xession-errors | pastebinit
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: ctrl + c on the last one
[03:14] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829912/
[03:15] <r0b-> :|
[03:15]  * r0b- has no idea man
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: and the second one
[03:15] <r0b-> it didnt read the file
[03:16] <Ronie> hello
[03:16] <r0b-> .xession errors is not a folder its a file :)
[03:16] <markovirc_> Hello Ronie
[03:16] <Ronie> hello markovirc
[03:16] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829930/
[03:16] <r0b-> thats the .xession errors
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: ls -l ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit
[03:17] <r0b-> i just told you...
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: i want to see the attributes
[03:17] <r0b-> -rw------- 1 rob rob 257 Jan 27 22:06 .xsession-errors
[03:17] <r0b-> :)
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: pastebinit /var/crash/fglrx.0.crash
[03:18] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829937/
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: lsmod | grep fglrx | pastebinit
[03:20] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829941/
[03:20]  * r0b- really appreciates your help man
[03:21] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: dmesg | pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:22] <Ronie1> hello
[03:22] <markovirc_> Hello Ronie1
[03:22] <r0b-> ed #ubuntu
[03:23] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829953/
[03:23] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829954/
[03:23] <r0b-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6829955/
[03:25] <Ronie1> hello tim
[03:25] <Ronie1> hello tim
[03:25] <Ronie1> hello
[03:25] <markovirc_> Hello Ronie1
[03:25] <Ronie1> hello marovirc
[03:26] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[03:26] <handlebar> markovic: This is not a channel for your bot
[03:27] <r0b-> ok done.
[03:27] <r0b-> ran exactly as you posted.
[03:28] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: test now
[03:28] <r0b-> reboot?
[03:28] <aFeijo> hi guys, I need to copy /tmp/.htaccess to /var/www/sites/*/files (*/files means over 100 directories), cp fail returning 'omitting directory `.../files/', there is no directory been copied, just a file. Why it fails? I try with cp -r too
[03:28] <r0b-> or?
[03:28] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: just relog
[03:28] <r0b-> ill reboot :)
[03:28] <r0b-> meh
[03:28] <r0b-> back in a few :)
[03:30] <r0b-> hitsujiTMO: same issue
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: ok. on the gui , can you get up a terminal with: ctrl + alt + t
[03:30] <r0b-> no.
[03:31] <r0b-> its the same no gui just the wallpaper.
[03:31] <r0b-> no mouse or anything
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: even if you hit ctrl + alt + t ?
[03:31] <r0b-> no.
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: can you log into the guest account?
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: is the same issue in the guest account?
[03:32] <r0b-> I wonder if XFCE does not like the driver.
[03:32] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[03:32]  * r0b- is using Xubuntu not Normal Ubuntu.
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: ahh kk.
[03:33] <daftykins> do what hitsujiTMO suggests r0b-, to test a blank xfce config, or move/rename ~/.config/xfce*
[03:33] <totesmuhgoats> i installed a new desktop enviroment to try it out and i decided i don't like it, problem is it installed a bunch of packages that have really cluttered up my system and made it hard to find what i want, extra file manager, terminal, image viewer, there's 2 of everything
[03:33] <AMAX> alguém sabe me dizer se mudou muito da versão 12 para a 13 ?
[03:33] <daftykins> anywho bed time, so i shall stop treading on hitsujiTMO's capable toes ^_^
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: or can you create a new account and test
[03:33] <r0b-> ill try that.
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> daftykins: lol, no problems there :P
[03:33] <totesmuhgoats> is there a way to remove not just the package, but all the packages that were installed with it?
[03:34] <totesmuhgoats> because just removing the desktop would still leave the extra tools behind
[03:34] <r0b-> brb
[03:34] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: "apt-cache showpkg whatever-desktop" will show you all the packages and dependancies of that desktop
[03:35] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: then, you could copy and paste all those packages into "sudo apt-get remove <those packages>"
[03:35] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: well that desktop probably has some overlap with the desktop that was already installed no?
[03:36] <daftykins> then you'd install the full DE package of what you *do* want (:
[03:36] <ermac0> aFeijo, cp  /tmp/.htaccess /var/www/sites/files/ , make sure are owner of those directories or sudo.
[03:36] <daftykins> or do the showpkg command for that one too, and compare
[03:37] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: i can dig it, thanks
[03:37] <daftykins> np
[03:37] <aFeijo> ermac0, I'm using the root user. But I just try with sudo, same error
[03:39] <ermac0> use -r with the syntax above
[03:39] <r0b-> it works halfass on a new account.
[03:39] <r0b-> so i may try renaming my users xfce config
[03:40] <aFeijo> ermac0, I did
[03:40] <aFeijo> ermac0, no errors then, but the file is not copied
[03:40] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. I've always used Clonezilla to copy my music drive to another music drive. These drives do not carry the OS or any other files/data. But, if I'm cloning a partition on drive D to drive E and neither has the OS, data files, etc. . . I can just umount the partition I want to clone and then use partclone, correct? I don't need to boot from the Clonezilla CD, etc.
[03:41] <r0b-> brb
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: so config issue then :(   did you try renaming ~/.config/xfce* as daftykins suggested to reset the xfce settings? might be easier that porting everything to a new account
[03:49] <r0b-> THANK YOU hitsujiTMO
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: np
[03:49] <r0b-> i renamed my xfce config and it works )
[03:49] <r0b-> :)
[03:52] <gmachine_24> any help on my partclone question......... please..............................
[03:54] <r0b-> I just gotta reconfigure my Task menues and wallpaper.
[03:54] <r0b-> :) Much appreciated hitsujiTMO :)
[03:54] <daftykins> gmachine_24: backing up on the same disk is REALLY not going to help
[03:54] <r0b-> i feel half dumb now :(
[03:55] <daftykins> oh no you said different drives, nm
[03:55] <r0b-> I will have to remember that.
[03:56] <r0b-> so i guess i can delete my old xfce config?
[03:57] <r0b-> or keep it?
[03:58] <r0b-> \o
[04:02] <gmachine_24> daftykins I'm sorry but if you read what I read you will see I am backing up from one drive to another ... so maybe don't be so condescending
[04:03] <gmachine_24> it would REALLY help if you read what I actually wrote
[04:14] <gmachine_24> yeah. didn't think so. loser.
[04:17] <lacrymology> should lspci show all graphic cards regardless of if they have the right drivers or not? I'm trying to figure out if my graphics card is discrete or not
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> lacrymology: yup it would
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> lacrymology: in later cards hybrid cards, some are not under "VGA" but "3D" aswell
[04:20] <AncientTech> Greetings, Hope I'm in active channel, I have a nag-problem-question about k3b Burning software..
[04:21] <proteus-F10> how to change interface
[04:23] <lacrymology> hitsujiTMO: it appears as a VGA, and no intel card, so I guess it's not hybrid..
[04:23] <lacrymology> hitsujiTMO: so the question remains, why under windows the battery lasts about 4x as much?
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> lacrymology: what card is it?
[04:24] <mssmss> Hello ... I have 12.04.2 LTS installed and am unable to update due to linux-image-generic-pae dependency problems ... can anyone help me ?
[04:24] <markovirc_> Hello mssmss
[04:26] <hitsujiTMO> lacrymology: usually thats down to power management. You may need to install the proprietary drivers to get improved power management. The open drivers get a massive improvement in 14.04 with this
[04:27] <Ben64> mssmss: pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:27] <mssmss> Here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830126/
[04:28] <mssmss> Ben64......will get them for you ...
[04:30] <Ben65> hello
[04:30] <markovirc_> Hello Ben65
[04:30] <maujhsn> hitsujiTMO Hello again. i have a question a Q about the gnome terminal! How to I set preferences so that I  can select all, cut and paste a full .xml docment using the nano editor? The default only allows me to select just the current page.
[04:30] <mssmss> sudo apt-get update results : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830134/
[04:31] <lacrymology> hitsujiTMO: my lspci output looks stupidly small.. <20 devices listed
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> maujhsn: not sure to be honest. don't use nano that heavy myself.
[04:31] <lacrymology> any options I'm missing?
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> lacrymology: thats normal
[04:31] <lacrymology> if you say so =)
[04:32] <mssmss> sudo apt-get upgrade result : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830135/
[04:32] <maujhsn> hitsujiTMO OK, Can another editor do it?
[04:32] <phunyguy> hello
[04:32] <markovirc_> Hello phunyguy
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> maujhsn: in terminal emacs should.
[04:33] <AncientTech> Greetings, Hope I'm in active channel, I have a nag-problem-question about k3b Burning software..
[04:33] <AncientTech> As I'm starting a new project, I have an upper window (source) and lower window (burnlist).
[04:33] <AncientTech> "Before", it was showing be both  directories and individual files within the source directory in the upper window (source).
[04:33] <AncientTech> I seem to have inadvertently changed the upper window (source) to just displaying directories, instead of showing directories  and files.
[04:34] <AncientTech> What did I do??
[04:34] <FloodBot1> AncientTech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <maujhsn> hitsujiTMO I got it...gedit allows me to select a whole document!
[04:34] <mssmss> Ben65: this has been a vexing problem as I have not been able to update for quite some time now ...I have looked at all the forums, but have not been able to figure out a proper solution...
[04:34] <IdleOne> hello
[04:34] <markovirc_> Hello IdleOne
[04:35] <hitsujiTMO> lacrymology: what is the output of: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[04:36] <Ben64> mssmss: what does the command "uname -a" return?
[04:37] <mssmss> Linux orange 3.2.0-58-generic-pae #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 18:00:02 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb
[04:39] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: then rerun: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:43] <macbar99> ciao
[04:43] <hitsujiTMO> !list > macbar99
[04:44] <macbar99> ok
[04:48] <AncientTech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830188/plain/
[04:48] <AncientTech> Greetings, Hope I'm in active channel, I have a nag-problem-question about k3b Burning software..
[04:48] <AncientTech> As I'm starting a new project, I have an upper window (source) and lower window (burnlist).
[04:48] <AncientTech> "Before", it was showing be both  directories and individual files within the source directory in the upper window (source).
[04:48] <AncientTech> I seem to have inadvertently changed the upper window (source) to just displaying directories, instead of showing directories  and files.
[04:48] <AncientTech> What did I do??
[04:48] <FloodBot1> AncientTech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <knopwob> AncientTech: please listen to the Bot
[04:49] <AncientTech> Trying to relearn after 30 yrs..
[04:49] <hitsujiTMO> !enter | AncientTech this would be a better response
[04:50] <hitsujiTMO> AncientTech: there may be more users that can help you in #kubuntu
[04:50] <AncientTech> Thx, I'll go there..tried at K3b, but only 2 users there..
[04:51] <AncientTech> How does one use the paste.ubuntu??
[04:52] <IdleOne> AncientPC: my guess is you somehow disabled something in the View settings. Check the menu and see if there is anything that pops out at you
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> AncientTech: #kde could be a helpful channel too for it
[04:54] <AncientTech> Thx guys.. I did UNIX and XENIX back in the 80's...Sure has changed since then..so many OS, so many Apps, blows my mind..
[04:56] <hitsujiTMO> people actually used xenix?
[04:57] <flos> AncientTech, the k3b will store config files in ~/.config . maybe you can move those files to a backup and restart the k3b
[04:57] <AncientTech> IdleOne wins the prize...settings..panel..contents...thx
[04:58] <IdleOne> sure thing
[04:58] <Lognic> ubunt stuck at installing system
[04:59] <AncientTech> flos - I will check that out...still figuring out where stuff is stored... Thx.
[04:59] <Lognic> ubuntu stuck at installing system
[04:59] <Diplomatico> I want to mount an image in a certain folder and this is the output: is write-protected, mounting read-only. (and I can't access the files, they don't show when ls)
[05:00] <Lognic> ubunt stuck at installing system
[05:00] <mssmss> Hi BenHi Ben65
[05:01] <Diplomatico> I mounted as a root, and it doesn't work...
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: what type of image and what command are you using to mount exactly?
[05:01] <mssmss> got knocked out of irc due to power loss..
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: then rerun: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:01] <Diplomatico>  mount crunchbang*.iso /mnt/tmp2 -o loop,uid=1000,gid=1000
[05:01] <mssmss> thanks hitsujiTMO
[05:01] <mssmss> let me try that
[05:02] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: and ls -l /mnt/tmp2 produces no output?
[05:03] <Diplomatico> ls no output.Have to try the other one...wait
[05:03] <Diplomatico> Or is it one command altogether?
[05:04] <mssmss> hitsujiTMO : here's the result of wget .....
[05:04] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: single command: ls -l /mnt/tmp2
[05:04] <Diplomatico> ok...
[05:04] <Diplomatico> let me try
[05:05] <Lognic> ubunt stuck at installing system
[05:05] <Diplomatico> That worked hitsujiTMO, but I don't understand why ls didn't!
[05:05] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: whats the output of: pwd
[05:05] <mssmss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830234/
[05:06] <Lognic> ubunt stuck at installing system
[05:06] <flos> ./.kde/share/apps/k3b and ./.kde/share/config/k3brc
[05:06] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: run: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:06] <Bashing-om> Lognic: Hi ! Where are you stuck at, if dual booting Windows, I run !
[05:06] <Diplomatico> The output of pwd shows the folder...
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: did you cd to /mnt/tmp2  before you mounted?
[05:07] <Lognic> stuck at installing system after wiping out windows xp
[05:07] <Diplomatico> No.
[05:07] <Diplomatico> I'm supposed to??
[05:07] <crosbymichael> what is cli installer found on the ubuntu mini isos called?
[05:08] <mssmss> hitsujiTMO: here's the result from sudo apt-get ... : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830235/
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: no, if you had your pwd would be /mnt/tmp2 on the hard drive, not /mnt/tmp2 the mount point
[05:08] <mssmss> it still fails
[05:08] <Bashing-om> Lognic: explain your process and what has happened, All that you should need to do is boot the disk, choose install, answere a few simpke questions, and the install wizard do it thing, over and done with,
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: we'll fix that
[05:08] <Diplomatico> I don't understand, I'm trying to mount an iso in a folder in my hard drive!
[05:09] <mssmss> ok..thanks .. it's looks like updater is going around in circles ...
[05:10] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-image-generic-pae_3.2.0.58.69_i386.deb
[05:10] <Diplomatico> The .iso is in the hard drive, in a certain folder, i want to mount it in another folder within the same hdd
[05:10] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: then once again, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:11] <Lognic> Bashing-om:so, it was early finished when it just froze normally, i haven't done anything that I'm no supposed to do.
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: cd /mnt/tmp2
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: ls
[05:11] <Diplomatico> No output.
[05:12] <Diplomatico> But it did when i aded -l ...
[05:12] <mssmss> OK...trying that ...
[05:12] <Bashing-om> Lognic: Well, Where is the installer hanging ? What was the last questiion you answered ? - Did you check the .iso file check sum ?
[05:12] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: so what do now you get from: ls -l
[05:13] <Diplomatico> I get the list of the files, a lot.
[05:13] <Diplomatico> But it's supposed to do that just with ls, isn't it?
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: but nothing for ls?   hmm, a little bizarre
[05:13] <Diplomatico> That's true.
[05:14] <Lognic> Bashing-om:hanging at the any questions screen,i gave it my keyboard layout.
[05:14] <Diplomatico> Could it be that I've been messing around with chown?
[05:14] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: that chould have no effect
[05:14] <Diplomatico> Ok.
[05:14] <hitsujiTMO> should*
[05:15] <Diplomatico> Maybe it could be that I had a normal user terminal opened as the same time as a root terminal?? I can't remember which one I used for what.
[05:16] <Ronie1> kernel 3.2.29 is good?
[05:16] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: bit ls and ls -l are essentiall the exact same thing, just different output formats
[05:16] <Diplomatico> Still strange...
[05:16] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: very
[05:17] <Diplomatico> But did we resolve the read-only mount??
[05:17] <Ronie1> Diplomatico:kernel 3.2.29 is good?
[05:17] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: its a cd image. its by its nature read only
[05:17] <Lognic> Bashing-om:hanging at the any questions screen,i gave it my keyboard layout.
[05:17] <Bashing-om> Lognic: Wow that is early on in the install process. UMMm,. XP box -> ; pentium 4 processor ?
[05:18] <Diplomatico> Ok.But they can be copied if I want to??
[05:18] <Diplomatico> the files I mean.
[05:18] <mssmss> hitsujiTMO : looks better now ....http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830272/
[05:18] <VossArtesian> Hello, i am trying to install 12.04 LTS from a USB to my eeePC netbook.  Currently it has 2 partitions and windows is installed on one.  I want to wipe the whole disk and start fresh with ubuntu but im very confused by my options in the partition editor, can anyone help?
[05:18] <mssmss> should I try and update now ?
[05:18] <hitsujiTMO> mssmss: yup
[05:19] <stuppy> hello - I have a question about ssh. I disabled passwd auth and root login and added my user and public key. Can login fine, but a bit too fine. I am wondering if ubuntu might be caching my key or something because the server is not prompting me for a password now when I ssh user@ip or ssh <Host from ~/.ssh/config> even if I comment out the relevant  config section. BUT, on a different computer runnng a live session, I am seeing
[05:19] <stuppy>  permission denied (publickey). so I bevlive it's secure, but am curious why no denial on my original comp. Any insight would be appreciated. thanks.
[05:19] <Lognic> bashing om: yep, P4 processor
[05:19] <Diplomatico> Thank you a lot Hatsu!
[05:21] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: key auth is instead of password auth so that sounds fine. did you restart the ssh daemon after changing the configs?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> Lognic: Is this the flagship ubuntu distribution that you are attempting to install ?, Lubuntu will be a much better option on a p4 .
[05:21] <stuppy> @VossArtesian, is there not an option to use entire disc? That's usually an option and that seems like what you were looking for. The other non-manual option would be side-by-side, which would be dual boot.
[05:22] <stuppy> @hitsujiTMO. yes, 2x sudo service ssh reload
[05:22] <Lognic> bashing-om: the ubuntu from the website
[05:23] <VossArtesian> stuppy: there is an option to erase everything and install, but after choosing that it gives me 2 partitions to choose from
[05:23] <stuppy> @hitsujiTMO - same with sudo service ssh restart as reload
[05:23] <Adrian0079> i have a PC with dual monitor(one DVI and Display Port) , but one of it ( on Display Port ) don't come up , any fix to that? ATI HD7650 / ubuntu 13.10, also i can see both monitors on ubuntu "Display" setting .
[05:24] <Bashing-om> Lognic: can you boot the liveDVD to "try ubuntu" mode so we can see some system specs, I bet no can install "ubuntu", Will be better with Lubuntu.
[05:25] <hitsujiTMO> Adrian0079: whats the output of: xrandr
[05:26] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: are you editing ~/.ssh/config on the server?
[05:27] <stuppy> @VossArtesian - you can also choose the manual method, and delete the partitions, create one full-disc partition, and then install.
[05:28] <Bashing-om> Lognic: I know by now you are frustrated as well as aggravated, we will get through this, Take a bit of time to read up: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE .
[05:28] <stuppy> @<VossArtesian> just back-up to where you chose entire-disk and find the manual option.
[05:29] <VossArtesian> stuppy: im starting to think im an idiot and theres actually 2 drives inside the machine, because removing the partition does nothing but create seperate free spaces
[05:29] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: theres no denial on the original as it has your pub key
[05:30] <stuppy> @hitsujiTMO no. editing local ~/.ssh/config and remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:31] <Diplomatico> VossArtesian, I think that the two partitions you are looking at are the MBR and the C: The first is used by the system.
[05:32] <stuppy>  @hitsujiTMO - how would it know where to find my key after I comment out that section of the .ssh/config? I'm not using the stadard id_rsa file for that server either, so it should need to know which file to find it in I would think.
[05:33] <VossArtesian> Diplomatico: its C and D, drives, aside from that there is also was seems to be a system file, and the USB im booting from
[05:33] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: are you using ssh-agent?
[05:34] <VossArtesian> Diplomatico: c drive has windows and is about 4gb, d drive is about 8.5 gb
[05:34] <Diplomatico> Ok, I 'm no pro, but I can remember when i installed ubuntu is that just drag the edges of the partition editor and you'll get the partition you want.
[05:35] <stuppy> @hitsujiTMO - is ssh-agent used by default on ubuntu desktop and/or server. it's installed by default.
[05:35] <stuppy> @hitsujiTMO I am not invoking it explicitly
[05:36] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: its not used by default.i'd assume that since you are using such a config it may be getting invoked and caching the key. have you tried uncommenting and then rebooting?
[05:36] <VossArtesian> Diplomatico: ok, thanks  im just giving up for now because the install failed twice once on each partition
[05:40] <mssmss> hitsujiTMO: my internet connection is iffy ... Update is stuck at "Applying Changes" ...I'll try again latr and let you know .. thanks ...
[05:40] <stuppy>  @hitsujiTMO - do you think it's a local or remote thing? I have not rebooted. I wanted to get it all squared before rebooting to avoid getting locked out.
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: i mean rebooting the client
[05:42] <stuppy> @hitsujiTMO - screw it - caution to the wind. rebooting.
[05:43] <stuppy> @hitsujiTMO - I'll try. I'll be back in 5. Thanks for the ssh-agent may be caching mental link.
[05:45] <Diplomatico> HitsujiTMO, now i can't access to the folders on those mounted files, i type cd  and the output is: bash: cd: boot: No such file or directory
[05:46] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: whats the output of: ls -l /mnt/tmp2/boot
[05:46] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: sounding like a corrupt iso
[05:47] <Diplomatico> ok , i did that cd command in the tmp1 folder, have to try it in tmp2 in another iso...
[05:47] <tucemiux> anyone know how safe it is to install software via ppa??
[05:48] <hitsujiTMO> tucemiux: depends on the ppa. some are good, some are awful
[05:48] <Diplomatico> It happened the same in the tmp2 folder, i have 5 in total.
[05:48] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: all different iso's or the same iso mount 5 times?
[05:48] <Diplomatico> And the thing is that mounting using the file explorer mounts it with no problem , and i can see the files and everything.
[05:48] <Diplomatico> I don't think it's corrupted.
[05:49] <tucemiux> hitsujiTMO, im thinking about security, I want to install java jdk from a ppa using webupd8
[05:49] <Diplomatico> 5 different isos.
[05:49] <Diplomatico> 5 diferent tmp folders.
[05:50] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: remount them, but use only option: -o loop                      no uid or anything
[05:50] <Ronie> how to upgrade to a newer kernel?
[05:50] <Diplomatico> ok...Do i have to umount them first?
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: yup
[05:51] <Diplomatico> Ok...
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> tucemiux:  webupd8 is pretty safe. that pulls java from the oracle site using the same method as the flash-installer
[05:51] <Diplomatico> I'm mounting as root, is it ok?
[05:52] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: that should not matter at all. its still a read only file system
[05:52] <Diplomatico> Ok...
[05:52] <k3pl3r16> evening everyone
[05:52] <The_Woodsman> if i wanted to FTP into my ubuntu machine from my windows one, how exactly would i do that? I usually use winSCP when getting files from my school but I don't know my laptop's host name and stuff to make the connection
[05:53] <Diplomatico> Watch this!!  in the tmp1 folder I get this output when i umount the iso:   umount: backbox-3.13-i386 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[05:53] <Diplomatico> Evening kepler.
[05:53] <tucemiux> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the 411, you did the nsa a good service
[05:54] <Diplomatico> But I could ls -l the files...How can it say is not mounted?
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> huh?
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: sudo umount /mnt/tmp1
[05:55] <Diplomatico> Ok...
[05:55] <k3pl3r16> Diplomatico, is it mounted in a different place?
[05:55] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: Evening, so, what brings you to ubuntu's help channel ?
[05:55] <k3pl3r16> like hitsujiTMO  said maybe not tmp1
[05:55] <Diplomatico> I suppose it is mounted in tmp1, because there is were i can ls -l the files.
[05:55] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, seeing if I can help out
[05:55] <Diplomatico> I could see the list.
[05:56] <k3pl3r16> Diplomatico, do you have a symbolic link to another dir?
[05:56] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: Will, then I go back to lurking and learning.
[05:56] <Diplomatico> I don't know.
[05:56] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, hahaha sometimes it's good to just sit back
[05:56] <Diplomatico> But now i did  sudo umount /mnt/tmp1 and when I ls -l the folder it says 0 total.
[05:57] <Diplomatico> So it seems that it mounts in that folder
[05:57] <k3pl3r16> Diplomatico, when you mounted it did you use sudo?
[05:57] <Diplomatico> Not sudo, i was at root.
[05:58] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: It's been busy, and honestly, this is the first I have kicked back.
[05:58] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, whats been happening? is there a pattern or something?
[05:58] <Diplomatico> And in the file explorer the folders tmp1 trough 5 the icon shows a lock.
[05:58] <k3pl3r16> BRB beer run
[05:59] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: problem installs and updates mostly .
[05:59] <loki_> hey guys, quick and easy question.  if I want to format a 3TB drive I can use gParted to do so, correcT?
[06:05] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - restarted client. ~/.ssh/config remains uncommented. reconnect to remote server user@ip - it prompted for my private key password to decrypt but it still logged in without needing the config info. It's a little scary
[06:05] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, haven't had any issues so far running 13.10 with backports
[06:06] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om,  I did with my other laptop using a Haswell chip get random schreen freezes
[06:06] <k3pl3r16> screen
[06:06] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: ok. don't uncomment. remove and try again.
[06:07] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: nope. besides installs 13.10 is clean.
[06:07] <tucemiux> hitsujiTMO, the comment was just in case you wanted me to use that ppa in err
[06:07] <loki_> soo....gparted to format 3TB/4TB drive? is ok?
[06:08] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: Random is tough to deal with ! What are your thoughts now ? Graphics ?
[06:08] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - woops - type-o. I meant "remains commneted"
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> tucemiux: ahh. well all i can say anything from webupd8 is usually pretty solid
[06:08] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, I got the intel driver installer and so far things are straight.
[06:09] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, used to freeze on minimize to the launcher and you have to click on the icon
[06:09] <k3pl3r16> Now no worries
[06:09] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: The people upstairs have done a bunch, a lot of efort gone into that layer.
[06:10] <K`zan> nevyn: catch ya on the morrow, appreciate your efforts to unconfuse me :-).
[06:11] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, waiting to really test Mir when this becomes stable enough. I prefer testing on metal rather then just VM
[06:11] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: Have ya seen the 13.10 graphics bragg postings ?
[06:11] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, nah what is it? got link?
[06:12] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - thinking to kill ssh-agent on the client and see if that blocks.
[06:13] <tucemiux> hitsujiTMO, would you happen to know of a reliable ppa for eclipse?
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> tucemiux: don't use eclipse i'm afriad
[06:13] <nevyn> mmm.
[06:13] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: some; http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/hybrid-graphics-with-amd-and-nvidia-in-ubuntu-13-10-and-12-04-3/1144 ; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics ; http://rudrageek.com/linux-now-supports-hybrid-graphics-systems-ubuntu-13-10/ .
[06:14] <loki_> hey guys, question about disk utility.  is there a way to gather the same information from command line?
[06:14] <tucemiux> hitsujiTMO, looks like there's an official eclipse ppa o.O
[06:14] <Jordan_U> loki_: Yes, though what command you run depends on what information you want specifically.
[06:15] <loki_> Jordan_U: I think SMARTCtl tells me most of the info I desire.  was just curious more than anything else.
[06:15] <Bashing-om> loki_: sure, there is nothing one can do from the GUI that can not be done from terminal, what info ya looking for ?
[06:15] <loki_> Bashing-om: basically the same info that disk utility displays
[06:17] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - Killed ssh-agent. not showing up in htop. config commented out, reconnection to server just the same, straight into it.
[06:17] <hitsujiTMO> tucemiux: i think thats actually outdated tho
[06:18] <sammy> hey ubuntu-ers from the southwestern US- what mirror do you use? I am having no luck finding a speedy mirror :(
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: rename ~/.ssh/config reboot and retry
[06:18] <Bashing-om> loki_: Ya mean somethings like df -h , sudo fdisk -l  , sudo parted -l ??
[06:18] <loki_> possibly.  and smart data.  disk serial number, etc.
[06:20] <_joey> I have a third party deb package with no documentation. How do I find out what dependencies are required for the package?
[06:20] <Bashing-om> loki_: I would have to look hard, how about smartmontools (??) .
[06:20] <loki_> Bashing-om: ok cool.  already have that installed :D.
[06:21] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, looks like rudrageek is talking about AMD and NVIDIA
[06:21] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, I have a newer Intel integrated
[06:21] <loki_> next question...seeing something odd from fdisk.  it's likely because the drives are formatted as GPT, but could someone take a look a what I am seeing and provide feedback?
[06:22] <Flannel> _joey: dpkg --info package.deb
[06:22] <Bashing-om> loki_: fdisk does not deal with GPI, try Gdisk .
[06:22] <Bashing-om> loki_: GPT*
[06:22] <loki_> Bashing-om: The drive was formatted with gParted, was just looking at the output of fdisk -l
[06:22] <loki_> let me try to DL gdisk
[06:23] <_joey> Flannel: thanks
[06:24] <loki_> Bashing-om: getting error 2
[06:24] <Ben64> loki_: pastebin full command and error
[06:24] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: I do not have much experience with the Intel chips. but a lot hs been done with sswitchable graphics, Not real sure how much effort has gone into Intel, as Intel works so close with us.
[06:25] <loki_> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6830473/
[06:25] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - this is getting weird. renamed config config.bak, rebooted, ssh user@ip -> prompt for passphrase to decrypt private key and connected.
[06:25] <Bashing-om> loki_:  Error 2 from what ?
[06:25] <loki_> Bashing-om: check the paste
[06:26] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: you need to specify the drive with gdisk
[06:26] <loki_> just ran gdisk -l
[06:26] <loki_> hitsujiTMO: oooohhhh
[06:26] <loki_> let's check again
[06:26] <Bashing-om> loki_:  k
[06:26] <whoDc> is there a way to roll back a failed upgrade?
[06:27] <whoDc> 12.04 decided to upgrade to 12.10 :) now i cant use the installer.. :D  and a lot does work.
[06:27] <whoDc> apparently it done a partitial upgrade
[06:27] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, always been good to me. I do not do gaming on a massive scale so ....
[06:28] <Bashing-om> loki_: give gdisk a target as in -> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda see what results.
[06:28] <loki_> Bashing-om: yep.  getting the info now :D
[06:28] <loki_> thanks guys!
[06:30] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: Intel are great chips, lots of muscel to make them so - They got to protect thier market share too !
[06:30] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - haha. renaming ~/.ssh, now that blocks access!
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: what about just ~/.ssh/config ?
[06:32] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: I personally prefer AMD, Little guys had to work harder, Good products to get where they are now.
[06:32] <stuppy> it worked just find with rename of config to config.bak + reboot. just had to enter key decryption passphrase.
[06:33] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - find* fine
[06:33] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, I'm a cheap bas$*rd
[06:33] <k3pl3r16> Bashing-om, lol
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: ok, so maybe the config is ignoreing the "#"'s ?
[06:38] <Bashing-om> k3pl3r16: careful, my better half reserves the term for me .
[06:42] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - wow. I have 7 entries in config, all grouped by commented sections. It would have to not be phased  by any of the non-matching syntax that my descriptive comments are using then.
[06:47] <stuppy> @HitsujiTMO - I don't think it can ignore the '#'s -  while $shh user@ip connects, $shh host(from config file) hangs when it's #ed. somehow, it knows where to look independent of config.
[07:10] <Myrtti> hi
[07:23] <MarGul> whats the easiest way to share a 25GB file over the network if I use xubuntu? I have been looking at samba but cant really get it to work. Is there not any share folders? I have xubuntu on both of the devices where I want to transfer the file
[07:24] <gordonjcp> MarGul: scp
[07:26] <MarGul> gordonjcp: When I goodle scp I get the feeling like it is some kind of ssh? I guess I could just install ssh on my desktop to drop off the file. But with ubuntu you can just "share" folders, thought there were something similar for xubuntu
[07:37] <MAD_51> Morning!
[07:54] <lifechamp> how to use SSD as cache, not just for programs, but for server storage of most recent accessed data, such as photos, etc?
[07:54] <meet_praveen> how can i upgrade python2.6 to 2.7 in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> meet_praveen: if it's not on the repos you need to find a ppa or compile it
[07:57] <stuppy> @hitsujiTMO - checked in with the openssh irc again and it seems ssh-agent is storing my key fingerprints $ssh-add -l with reboot persistence, which seems to be identifying the appropriate key without the need for ~/.ssh/config's directions. Thanks for your time and assistance.
[07:57] <meet_praveen> aeon-ltd: how?
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> meet_praveen: google for ppas
[07:58] <aeon-ltd> !compile | meet_praveen
[07:58] <hitsujiTMO> stuppy: sweet, glad you got to the bottom of it
[07:58] <aeon-ltd> meet_praveen: or you can wait til it is in the ubuntu repos
[08:04] <kry> Hallo
[08:04] <kry> Is there any way to change where Ubuntu Software Centre installs the programs?
[08:07] <echopleks> any help for a noob struggling hard with a live USB Xubuntu install?
[08:09] <kry> I guess no helpers are online atm
[08:09] <echopleks> ah well
[08:09] <echopleks> it is late :)
[08:11] <kry> Where you live, perhaps
[08:12] <kry> It's bright daylight in Europa, so I would found it strange, if there was no one here.
[08:13] <whoDc> u cant change it kry
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> echopleks: what's the current situation?
[08:14] <whoDc> if space issue: apt autoclean
[08:14] <whoDc> try clear /tmp too
[08:14] <whoDc> or apt clean
[08:14] <nimfatest> chuj
[08:14] <whoDc> rm -fr /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[08:14] <whoDc> too
[08:14] <nimfatest> jebać was
[08:15] <kry> So where does it install by default?
[08:15] <echopleks> aeon-ltd, I keep getting the message "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" after trying to boot from the USB
[08:15] <Falus> Siemanko
[08:15] <whoDc> /usr/lib
[08:15] <echopleks> ive tried multiple drives, checked the MD5 sums, tried xubuntu 13.10 and 12.10
[08:15] <echopleks> i should note i had 13.10 working for a couple weeks but after a reboot i wasnt able to SSH in or get the video card to post
[08:16] <Falus> Co tam ptaszki
[08:16] <Falus> ?
[08:16] <echopleks> so i decided id start again and re-install...so formatted the USB i was running it off of as well as the Live USB, did everything the same
[08:16] <whoDc> 12.10 is just as bad echopleks :) for me heh
[08:16] <kry> If I copy the whole directory, will the program still be able to run?
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> i'm gonna be honest, you've tried all the ideas i would've suggested. sorry i can't help
[08:16] <echopleks> damn
[08:16] <whoDc> kry: no but u can make symlinks
[08:16] <echopleks> thats been the same with everything ive found in forums too
[08:16] <echopleks> seriously at a loss here
[08:17] <kry> What is that?
[08:17] <aula> Hii
[08:17] <Falus> mango
[08:17] <Falus> fuck
[08:17] <aula> Anybody talk spanish?
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> echopleks: no cd drive?
[08:17] <kry> !symlinks
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> aula: nada
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> !es
[08:17] <Falus> Dick
[08:17] <echopleks> nah; well i have one i could plug in but no CD's or DVDs to burn
[08:17] <Falus> Dick
[08:17] <Falus> Fuck
[08:17] <aula> Jujuju
[08:17] <FloodBot1> Falus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <aula> Okok
[08:18] <whoDc> ln -s target linkName
[08:18] <Falus> I have big dick and you have small dick
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> echopleks: i'm thinking the usb port might be the problem
[08:18] <echopleks> aeon-ltd also tried virtually every USB port
[08:18] <echopleks> and made sure to avoid 3.0
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> that was the worst troll/spam performance i've ever witnessed
[08:19] <kry> So I link the targets .deb to a linkname I give?
[08:19] <leeyaa> hello guys
[08:19] <leeyaa> do you know how to fix this error for apache NC::MemCache: libapr_memcache.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ?
[08:19] <echopleks> i notice that even after flashing the drive and resetting CMOS on my MOBO, i still see "ubuntu" as a boot option
[08:19] <whoDc> no Kry: u can install something elsewhere if compile urself. then make symbolx link
[08:20] <echopleks> is that normal?
[08:20] <echopleks> or could its persistence be an issue
[08:20] <whoDc> leeyaa: yes :)
[08:21] <kry> But basically it would be simplier to uninstall USC and do everything manually? Will then it ask where I want to install programs?
[08:21] <leeyaa> whoDc: any tips? :)
[08:21] <leeyaa> im not sure what am i missing
[08:21] <whoDc> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/my_library/path.to.so
[08:23] <whoDc> leeyaa: check also: /etc/ld.so.conf
[08:23] <whoDc> and add there then need run ldconfig after
[08:23] <kry> How often do I have to reinstall Ubuntu?
[08:24] <whoDc> kry: why do u want to reinstall ubuntu? :)
[08:24] <leeyaa> whoDc: so add whereever is my lbrary to ld.so ?
[08:24] <whoDc> ye leeyaa
[08:25] <kry> In case it goes wrong, as windows does sometimes
[08:25] <whoDc> kry: u can usually fix problems thou rather than take the easy option out ie reinstalling waste of time and effort
[08:26] <whoDc> you have "repair" option anyhow... boot choice. where it will load min then can login to the "messed up sys" to repair it
[08:27] <kry> I have to reinstall Windows at every half year, but if Ubuntu manages to encounter that slowment like it does not (slow, sometimes freezes at booting, etc.), I'm better off at reinstalling, rather than trying to fix it manually
[08:27] <kry> Especially, since I'm not Linux interpid
[08:27] <whoDc> heh? reinstall easy option out.
[08:28] <whoDc> there is a sort of recovery option now within setup Kry: if ur that lazy, which will leave ur personal files alone :)
[08:29] <whoDc> i havent reinstalled windows for years :) and never linux.. yet :)
[08:29] <kry> I was thinking about making a system drive (10-50 GBs) and a files drive (500GBs), and if there are some problem, I will just format the system drive, and the rest remains untouched
[08:29] <kry> That's why I want USC to install files on the 500GB drive instead the small one.
[08:30] <whoDc> there is no need for above: as mentioned ^^ u there is option to user files be ...  it will detect existing install then give the option, which in effect is sort of recovery option
[08:30] <Ben64> its very rare that you'll need to install because of some problem. that really is a windows thing
[08:30] <leeyaa> whoDc: thanks ill try that out after i fix my damn connection to that vm
[08:31] <Ben64> the last time i installed was in 2006
[08:31] <whoDc> better fix, rather than reinstall :)
[08:32] <kry> Another thing is, I have an another hard drive, which is formatted (and preferably remain, as it is moved between computers) in NTFS (WinXP), will I have to know something quirky about it?
[08:33] <Ben64> ntfs works fine
[08:34] <kry> Okay, thanks.
[08:34] <kry> I'm just starting to change to Ubuntu, but it's not user friendly at maximum.
[08:34] <whoDc> if its empty anyhow why not reformat?
[08:34] <WHAT_UP> i have a zip file with 1 text file in it. why is unzip -fj blah.zip just telling me "Archive:  blah.zip" rather than actually inflating the text file?
[08:35] <Ben64> kry: ubuntu is very friendly, just different than windows
[08:35] <WHAT_UP> nevermind that question
[08:35] <leeyaa> whoDc: hm still doesnt start
[08:35] <kry> You mean, by constantly editing sudoers or etc/fstab just to change something simple?
[08:35] <whoDc> leeyaa: post line used and path
[08:36] <leeyaa> D_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0
[08:36] <leeyaa> this is where library is located
[08:36] <Ben64> kry: normally never have to edit either of those
[08:36] <whoDc> LD_LIBRARY
[08:36] <leeyaa> yes with LD sorry
[08:36] <leeyaa> ah lol
[08:36] <kry> At least Win has tooltips everywhere, in Ubuntu I have a lot of things I suck it finding the first, and have to look it up on the internet after a few hours.
[08:36] <leeyaa> ffs vm dropped again
[08:37] <leeyaa> so yeah i used LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0
[08:37] <whoDc> did u do ldconfig after leeyaa
[08:37] <leeyaa> and then ldconfig
[08:37] <leeyaa> is there a way to confirm it ?
[08:38] <whoDc> ye cant remem off hand thou :)
[08:38] <whoDc> had simular issue last week with eggdrop :) to get the lib to load
[08:39] <leeyaa> sigh
[08:39] <leeyaa> ;p
[08:39] <whoDc> printenv    / env
[08:40] <whoDc> should show if the path is added to envoirment
[08:40] <leeyaa> by env you mean library ?
[08:41] <whoDc> no thats envoirment
[08:41] <whoDc>  LD_LIBRARY_PATH /pathto/lib
[08:42] <whoDc> leeyaa: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location
[08:44] <geirha> alternatively you can create a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ containing the line: /usr/local/apr/lib
[08:44] <leeyaa> whoDc: hm so it should be LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0 ?
[08:44] <leeyaa> im using very old ubuntu btw if that matters
[08:44] <geirha> then after running ''sudo ldconfig'', all programs will be able to find that apr_memcache library
[08:44] <geirha> leeyaa: minus the filename
[08:45] <whoDc> ye: but make sure u keep the existing paths there too
[08:45] <kry> Thanks for the help, bye.
[08:45] <geirha> LD_LIBRARY_PATH should contain a list of directories, not paths to library files
[08:46] <leeyaa> i see
[08:46] <leeyaa> right so ill add a file to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ does it matter name >
[08:46] <geirha> leeyaa: must end with .conf. apr.conf perhaps
[08:47] <leeyaa> i dont have such directory btw
[08:47] <whoDc> just add direct to ld.so.conf then
[08:48] <leeyaa> and add path, not actual lib yes ?
[08:48] <whoDc> y
[08:48] <leeyaa> same thing ;p
[08:49] <whoDc> hm :> pass then
[08:51] <geirha> leeyaa: After editing ld.so.conf, you need to run  sudo ldconfig
[08:51] <leeyaa> geirha: i did
[08:52] <geirha> leeyaa: and if you run   ldconfig -p   do you see the library?
[08:52] <Temper> so i installed ubuntu on a N2550 atom cpu system.. after grub it's just a black screen..
[08:54] <leeyaa> geirha: no
[08:55] <leeyaa> the weird thing is on another vm apache starts without adding this
[08:56] <syntroPi> how can i launch an app from lenses? it always just searched for files???
[08:56] <geirha> leeyaa: file /usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0 /bin/bash     does file say that both /bin/bash and that so file are 64 bit ELF?
[08:57] <leeyaa> no it says it cant find it
[08:57] <faugusztin> Temper: that board has that cursed IGP it seems
[08:57] <geirha> leeyaa: can't find what?
[08:58] <Temper> faugusztin, i would of said it is the worlds biggest POS $%#^#$%&
[08:58] <leeyaa> ERROR: cannot open `/usr/local/apr/lib/libapr_memcache.so.0'
[08:58] <Temper> but seriosuly, i installed ubuntu server which is no gui
[08:58] <leeyaa> thats the error geirha
[08:58] <Temper> how the hell is the video messed up?
[08:59] <leeyaa> and yes there is no memcache.so.0
[08:59] <leeyaa> there is just memcache.so
[08:59] <faugusztin> Temper: probably running framebuffer ?
[08:59] <geirha> leeyaa: ... oh, so it's actually an apache module
[09:00] <faugusztin> Temper: if you can ssh in, try to boot it in true text mode : http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode
[09:00] <Temper> well in grub i press e and remove load_video and gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode to no avail
[09:00] <geirha> leeyaa: but where did libapr_memcache.so.0 come into the picture?
[09:00] <leeyaa> strace, when i try to start it
[09:00] <Temper> i wish i could ssh in.. i would be done.. it didn't find my wireless card on setup either..
[09:00] <leeyaa> it is veery weird setup, not mine
[09:01] <Temper> i am trying to setup a firewall.. so no screen will be needed..
[09:01] <leeyaa> geirha: so you think it is apache module problem ?
[09:01] <faugusztin> Temper: did you try boot parameter text ?
[09:01] <Temper> no
[09:01] <Temper> do i put that after the linux ro?
[09:02] <faugusztin> Temper: at the place you would have "quiet splash"
[09:02] <geirha> leeyaa: just install it then.  sudo apt-get install libapr-memcache0
[09:02] <Temper> that's just it there is no quiet splash
[09:02] <leeyaa> i tried that
[09:02] <leeyaa> apache is compiled from source
[09:03] <faugusztin> Temper: then yes, after ro
[09:03] <Temper> no go
[09:03] <faugusztin> Temper: you could also try vga16fb.modeset=0
[09:03] <geirha> leeyaa: did the package install? you still have no libapr_memcache  in ldconfig -p output?
[09:04] <Temper> faugusztin, same spot?
[09:04] <faugusztin> Temper: yes
[09:05] <Temper> it seems like none of these options are actually doing anything..
[09:05] <faugusztin> Temper: just a question - you are trying to use 32-bit OS, right ?
[09:05] <Temper> faugusztin, nope 64bit
[09:05] <Temper> it is a 64bit cpu
[09:05] <faugusztin> Temper: GMA 3650 is 32-bit only
[09:06] <Temper> i do not need graphics what so ever
[09:06] <Temper> like nada..
[09:06] <Temper> text is great.. if it would work
[09:06] <faugusztin> sure, but it seems it doesn't want to do anything in 64-bit mode ?
[09:06] <Temper> grub works.. and the loader works until after the swap message..
[09:06] <Temper> i guess i can try that but the nfs kernel server has issues in 32bit mode
[09:06] <faugusztin> or you could put in a external graphics card, probably a PCI card (most N2550 boards have that slot)
[09:07] <Temper> faugusztin, nope..
[09:07] <Temper> this is a real gem..
[09:07] <faugusztin> Temper: ah, another one :)
[09:07] <faugusztin> Temper: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/blank-screen-after-boot-4175474380/ video=LVDS-1:d
[09:07] <meet_praveen> aeon-ltd: i installed 2.7 but how to change default compiler ?
[09:07] <Temper> i have had this pos for like a year and haven't used it at all because of these issues
[09:07] <faugusztin> Temper: GMA 3600 kernel DRM driver in 3.3.0 (as included in Mageia) always assumes a LVDS panel is present (as would be the case on netbooks but not on mini-ITX boards) and for some reason it defaults to a 1920x1080 panel.
[09:07] <Temper> but i just want a firewall..
[09:08] <leeyaa> geirha: ill check that in a minute
[09:08] <CarlFK> I need to use my laptop webcam to take pictures - what app can do that nicely?
[09:08] <leeyaa> not sure if it installed, system is very old
[09:08] <Temper> i just need the screen to get it setup enough for networking
[09:08] <faugusztin> Temper: try that video option above, maybe it will help
[09:09] <imghost> !cheese | CarlFK
[09:09] <Temper> and i am not sure why the realtek wifi wasn't detected
[09:09] <leeyaa> geirha: this is the exact error i was getting http://apaste.info/4qUL
[09:09] <Temper> faugusztin, no i tried all the suggestions you had
[09:09] <imghost> !find cheese
[09:09] <Temper> and a bunch online
[09:09] <faugusztin> Temper: video=LVDS-1:d too ?
[09:09] <Temper> what i don't understand is the install worked
[09:09] <CarlFK> imghost: thanks
[09:09] <Temper> faugusztin, not the video thing.. same spot?
[09:09] <faugusztin> Temper: yes
[09:10] <imghost> CarlFK, yw
[09:10] <deulizealand> im newbie
[09:10] <leeyaa> geirha: is there a way to add that .so file to system so it can find it ?
[09:10] <leeyaa> or something like that
[09:10] <faugusztin> Temper: and if the installer works, you could boot in the live enviroment, chroot in your existing instalation, install openssh server, set it to start on boot, win ? :)
[09:10] <deulizealand> please help me to learning
[09:11] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | deulizealand
[09:11] <faugusztin> leeyaa: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:12] <CarlFK> hmm, ok, now that I think abuout it..  I need an app that makes my web cam like a bar code scanner and spits out numbers as it notices a barcode.  dupes are fine
[09:12] <leeyaa> faugusztin: and how to check if it was successful ?
[09:12] <leeyaa> ldconfig -p ?
[09:12] <faugusztin> leeyaa: well, a more complete answer :
[09:12] <deulizealand> !manual | hitsuji  ok thanks for answer , im from indonesia
[09:13] <faugusztin> leeyaa: 1) LD_LIBRARY_PATH is the enviroment vairable where it should search for libraries
[09:13] <faugusztin> leeyaa: 2) you can also set it permanently via conf files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/, then do sudo ldconfig
[09:13] <Temper> faugusztin, you are the F'IN MAN
[09:13] <Temper> that video=blah blah bs worked
[09:13] <leeyaa> faugusztin: yeah i tried that and it didnt show up in ldconfig -p but ill check again
[09:13] <faugusztin> leeyaa: 3) test it using ldd executable, where executable is the file which requires that library, if it shows you the correct location it works
[09:14] <leeyaa> executable?
[09:14] <leeyaa> so apache for example ?
[09:14] <Temper> faugusztin, any idea how to make that video=blahlbah permenate?
[09:14] <faugusztin> leeyaa: well i don't know which binary requires your library
[09:15] <leeyaa> faugusztin: this is a short output from strace
[09:15] <leeyaa> http://apaste.info/4qUL
[09:15] <ian__> how do I register a nickname
[09:15] <DJones> !register | ian__
[09:15] <faugusztin> Temper: /etc/default/grub i think, there is LINUX_CMDLINE or something like that, add your command to that
[09:15] <ian__> thanks
[09:15] <leeyaa> and im getting it when i try to start apache
[09:16] <faugusztin> Temper: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX it is
[09:16] <deulizealand> where you from
[09:17] <faugusztin> leeyaa: no idea, never did perl with apache :)
[09:17] <Temper> faugusztin, is that in /boot/grub/grub.conf?
[09:17] <leeyaa> darn ;p
[09:18] <faugusztin> Temper: edit /etc/default/grub and then update-grub
[09:21] <Temper> faugusztin, i was a real linux champ back in like 2000 with slackware..
[09:21] <Temper> since then i feel like a noob
[09:21] <Temper> ok that worked
[09:21] <Temper> thanks
[09:34] <oins> I like to configure my new laptop hardware. Is there a good page, where I can check if the chosen hardware component is well supported in linux?
[09:35] <DJones> !hcl | oins
[09:37] <ian_5426745> Is there a help channel on autokey
[09:38] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | ian_5426745
[09:38] <ian_5426745> thanks
[09:52] <kandinski> I have messed up the keys for unity (things like moving windows around)
[09:52] <kandinski> how can I reset the defaults?
[09:57] <Layke> I have [ MONITOR 1][MONITOR 2] If I move my mouse from right to left, once it passes between one monitor, it wraps over and goes to the outter edge of the opposite monitor
[09:58] <Layke> How can I stop this? It's really frustrating. I'm sure it's a feature somewhere..
[09:58] <k1l> Layke: do they have the same resolution? and what ubuntu and what desktop do you use?
[09:59] <Layke> 12.04 LTS. Yeah, identical monitors
[10:00] <Layke> Oddly, just launched nvidia-settings, and it says: The NVIDIA X driver on Layke:0.0 is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page.
[10:00] <Layke> Never seen that before. I'll have to run now. I'll try and reinstall with nvidia 304 when I get back
[10:01] <Layke> Andthen I'll see what the mouse skipping from one desktop to another issue could be
[10:01] <Layke> I think this describes the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2083893
[10:04] <trip_> Hello ppl
[10:05] <trip_> anyone talking?
[10:05] <k1l> #ubuntu-offtopic is for talking :)
[10:07] <e^0> is it possible to install a printer only for a particular user and not all ?
[10:09] <sgo11> hi, just upgrade to 13.10 by using do-release-upgrade command. Now, I can not see my login manager. black screen. please help....
[10:20] <solofight> whats the best way to back up my entire old hard disk to my laptop ?
[10:20] <solofight> i tried rsync and it has made several errors and missd files
[10:21] <solofight> i ran rsync as sudo
[10:24] <sgo11> my default login manager is gdm. now, I installed lightdm and then switch to lightdm. I can see the login screen. But I can not enter my DM. I picked lxde. now, the login screen is spining forever.
[10:28] <leeyaa> hey geirha about my library thing, no i cant install that package, it doesnt exist
[10:30] <sgo11> hm... there is another problem. I have nvidia-current installed. but I am not using nvidia driver. why? how to install nvidia driver properly in ubuntu 13.10? thanks.
[10:34] <geirha> leeyaa: lsb_release -sd
[10:34] <PinkFoxFur> want to install ubuntu on 2009 white macbook but trackpad does not work when booting from live cd. usb mouse works but not trackpad any suggestions ??
[10:35] <leeyaa> geirha: dapper, 6 something
[10:35] <razor_> install from the livve cd then search for the campatible upgrades
[10:35] <greys> PinkFoxFur: think if you install as it is, there will be a way to configure the touchpad later
[10:35] <k1l> leeyaa: that is way out of support.
[10:35] <k1l> !eol | leeyaa
[10:35] <geirha> leeyaa: ouch, so 8 year old Ubuntu. :)
[10:36] <leeyaa> geirha: i know -.-
[10:36] <greys> PinkFoxFur: you will probably have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually
[10:36] <leeyaa> thats what they gave me, they cant upgrade it
[10:36] <geirha> leeyaa: Well, it's a bit hard to help you further with that.
[10:36] <leeyaa> well if only i know how to fix that library
[10:36] <geirha> leeyaa: you should've upgraded 6 years ago
[10:37] <PinkFoxFur> ok so if i do a full ubuntu install what do i add to my xorg.conf file ??
[10:37] <leeyaa> geirha: i will upgrade for sure, that wasnt my system. this is what i got when i arrived here
[10:37] <geirha> leeyaa: You'll probably have to download and build the sources for it yourself
[10:37] <leeyaa> geirha: source for memcached /
[10:37] <k1l> leeyaa: a new install is way faster and more secure
[10:38] <leeyaa> k1l: atm this is not my goal, i just need to start it on this testing vm
[10:38] <leeyaa> because they want it ;p
[10:38] <geirha> leeyaa: source for libapr_memcache
[10:38] <k1l> leeyaa: that is so old, i bet it wont work with modern lbs
[10:38] <leeyaa> k1l: yes it is a real pain to update it
[10:38] <cfhowlett> leeyaa, that's so old, even Moses would upgrade ...
[10:38] <leeyaa> lmao
[10:39] <leeyaa> geirha: where can one get the source for libapr_memcache ?
[10:39] <geirha> leeyaa: Here apparently: http://www.outoforder.cc/projects/libs/apr_memcache/
[10:39] <leeyaa> thank you geirha
[10:42] <PinkFoxFur> after install could I just run x -configure ?? or will i nee to create an xorg.conf file from scratch ??
[10:45] <leeyaa> rofl geirha i asked them why they cant upgrade
[10:45] <leeyaa> answer: if it is working, dont touch it
[10:46] <leeyaa> insane people :D
[10:46] <gimnazjum> Nigga
[10:46] <gimnazjum> ELOOO!!!
[10:46] <gimnazjum_> niger
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !ops|gimnazjum,
[10:49] <Ronie1> hello
[10:50] <PinkFoxFur> hi.
[10:51] <Ronie1> what is a kernel in an OS
[10:51] <cfhowlett> !kernel|Ronie1,
[10:51] <greys> PinkFoxFur: install as usual, run x -configure but essentially you will need to create entry for a touchpad
[10:52] <greys> PinkFoxFur: there are plenty of settings and a flag that will specify your device to be a touchpad (MatchIsTouchpad    "on")
[10:53] <Ronie1> greys:hello
[10:53] <greys> PinkFoxFur: more info here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126526/macbook-pro-touchpad-optimization-12-04-lts
[10:53] <greys> hi Ronie1
[10:53] <Ronie1> greys:hello
[10:53] <PinkFoxFur> thank you for the help and info greys
[10:54] <greys> no problem PinkFoxFur, hope you get it working
[10:55] <PiNinja> Hey, after some googling I've decided to come here. Whenever I try to play a video through VLC my entire computer freezes, but the video sound plays. Any ideas what is going on?
[10:55] <PinkFoxFur> me too because i really want to get usibg ubuntu again :)
[11:02] <Ronie1> PiNinja:which distro are you using?
[11:03] <PiNinja> Ronie1: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[11:03] <Elico> there was this nice guy here that needed help and I started "dd" with him but I was gone for some work...
[11:03] <PiNinja> Ronie1: I'm about to preform a test to see if it is playing .mp4 files that causes the crash. .mp3 and flash seem to work just fine.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> PiNinja: tried other players, like gnome-mplayer?
[11:05] <Ronie1> PiNinja: use mplayer instead for paying video files, vlc runs heavy on ubuntu and crashes, mplayer is light.
[11:05] <solofight> i wanted to move data from one disk to another - so used the mv and faced an interdece transfer failed --- then i read this http://insanelabs.com/linux/linux-cannot-move-folders-inter-device-move-failed-unable-to-remove-target-is-a-directory/ and understood what mv does is not an actiual move of data
[11:05] <solofight> so how to move data between two disks ?
[11:05] <PiNinja> ActionParsnip: I have not. I have just very recently installed this OS.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> solofight: copy the data, paste the data
[11:05] <PiNinja> Ronie1: I'll try mplayer.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Ronie1: not had an issue with vlc crashing personally
[11:06] <solofight> ActionParsnip: why i prefer move is that if some copy fails i see that data in the source - i need not watch /follow the logs for failure..
[11:06] <solofight> ActionParsnip: no other way ?
[11:06] <PiNinja> Ronie1, ActionParsnip: I should note that I have a decent amount of RAM and a semi-decent video card.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> solofight: could use rsync / grsync
[11:07] <Ronie1> PiNinja:what processor are you using? single or dual core?
[11:07] <PiNinja> Ronie1: Quad.
[11:07] <solofight> ActionParsnip: when i used rsync it missed data ! and i was not able to verify the transfer of data with md5 as there are directories
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> solofight: is their a logging option on the command?>
[11:08] <Ronie1> PiNinja: try gnome mplayer , and then see whether it crashes or not.
[11:08] <PiNinja> Ronie1: AMD A8-4500M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics <- My processor.
[11:09] <Ronie1> PiNinja: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> gnome-mplayer   may as well get a nice GUI on it :)
[11:09] <Ronie1> or download from software center
[11:10] <PiNinja> Ronie1: Already done, give me a moment.
[11:13] <chris___1> hi
[11:13] <chris___1> quit
[11:13] <ChristW> Anyone here who can help w/ a video driver that seems to be stuck in software rendering mode?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ChristW: can you give details of the setup / OS etc
[11:13] <ChristW> I've googled around quite a bit, but haven't been able to find anything pertinent.
[11:15] <ChristW> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831410/
[11:15] <ChristW> Any other info?
[11:16] <ChristW> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831414/
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ChristW: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:18] <ChristW> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6831424/
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ChristW: Trusty support is in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[11:18] <ChristW> ActionParsnip: Ok, I'll go over there then, thanks!
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> np
[11:21] <PiNinja> So, the problem persists with both mplayer and vlc.
[11:21] <PiNinja> My computer somewhat freezes, I am unable to move my mouse and everything seems to just.. stop. However, music from my browser continues up until the computer restarts itself. (Via a script so that I wouldn't have to hard reboot after each test.)
[11:22] <PiNinja> The problem seems to only happen when I try to play video, but not mp3
[11:22] <k1l>  PiNinja do you have the right codecs? is the video file corrupted?
[11:22] <PiNinja> k1l: I have tried a few different videos.
[11:23] <PiNinja> k1l: How would I know if I have the right codecs?
[11:23] <k1l> !codecs | PiNinja
[11:31] <trip_> Hello anyone here?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> PiNinja: did you try a few output methods in VLC for video?
[11:40] <FK_lennart_potte> hello
[11:41] <hewhomust> hi
[11:41] <FK_lennart_potte> does anyone know how to get /dev/dsp to be non-blocking
[11:41] <FK_lennart_potte> alsa docs claim:
[11:41] <FK_lennart_potte> options snd-pcm-oss nonblock_open=1
[11:41] <FK_lennart_potte> this doesn't seem to work, or I can't get the options to stick
[11:41] <FK_lennart_potte> (and no more modules.conf like in the past, no idea where anything is anymore)
[11:43] <PiNinja> I seem to have discovered a problem (or I am at least closer to). I found a thread on the ubuntu forums with a similar issue. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1935080 After following the the advice to turn HW overlay off everything played as normal.
[11:43] <PiNinja> Would this have to do with my video driver?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> PiNinja: possibly, sounds likly
[11:43] <PiNinja> ActionParsnip: How would I go about fixing this?
[11:44] <PiNinja> ActionParsnip: Turns out that thread has a page two. They've listed a solution. So I withdraw my previous query.
[11:51] <maxvi> hi everyone! how can I return result of find command to variable in bash script?
[11:52] <repozitor> iptable, you told me this command
[11:52] <repozitor> reject any outgoing connection, but it still limited users can access to network,
[11:52] <repozitor> sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> maxvi: VAR1=`find $HOME | grep test`
[11:53] <iptable> repozitor: yes. it stops all outgoing connections for a user.
[11:53] <iptable> sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT
[11:53] <iptable> minus I, not A
[11:54] <repozitor> iptable<20:01>:
[11:54] <repozitor> repozitor: to block outgoing connections for a specific user: sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT
[11:54] <iptable> repozitor: ok. if you got other rules in place, use -I instead, that will override other rules you may have
[11:54] <hawthorn> helloooo everyone :)
[11:55] <iptable> repozitor: what is the problem with it anyways? if that's the only rule, or the first rule, it will stop that user from accessing any network connections
[11:55] <repozitor> iptable, i used -I, but users can access to network
[11:55] <repozitor> for example they can ping 8.8.8.8
[11:56] <repozitor> as i told you, i would like to block ANY outgoing network activity!
[11:57] <repozitor> i guess, this command just manipulate /etc/resolv.config!
[11:58] <repozitor> remove real nameserver(correct) to localhost nameserver(incorrect)
[11:58] <denny_20000> excuse me,anybody has used i2f?
[11:58] <Ben64> !anyone | denny_20000
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !anyone|denny_20000,
[11:58] <cfhowlett> Ben64, too quick for me again ...
[11:58] <Ben64> sorry
[11:59] <repozitor> iptable, what is wrong with me?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> Ben64, :)
[12:00] <repozitor> can someone tell me how to block ALL outgoing connection of ssh users?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/blocking-outgoing-ssh-using-iptables-748696/
[12:02] <linux>  I have problem with glide and magic lamp effect. it says cannot activate them
[12:03] <Dors> hi
[12:03] <iptable> repozitor: no. iptables is a linux firewall
[12:04] <Dors> How get Ubuntu into Windows?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Dors, don't.
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Dors, install dual boot
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !dualboot
[12:04] <Dors> :(
[12:04] <repozitor> iptable, so we can't block user's network?
[12:04] <Dors> I want inti Windows please
[12:04] <Dors> into
[12:04] <DJones> !install | Dors
[12:05] <Dors> no
[12:05] <iptable> repozitor: yes, we can. hold on
[12:05] <PiNinja> ActionParsnip: Results!
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Dors, no?  ok.  Install virtualbox on windows.  put ubuntu in a virtualbox.
[12:05] <DJones> Dors: If you want to run Ubuntu inside windows, your best bet is to install something like virtualbox and install inside that, however be aware its likely to be a lot slower than a proper installation
[12:06] <PiNinja> ActionParsnip: So, turns out I either had the wrong video driver or an outdated one. I uninstalled the fglrx thing (still new to this) and proceeded to install the new driver from the manufacturer's website. Rebooted and tried watching a video. Everything works. Thanks for your help.
[12:06] <Dors> I want into Windows
[12:07] <Ben64> Dors: you should explain what you mean by that
[12:08] <iptable> repozitor: also add this: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT
[12:09] <Dors> I want Ubuntu into Windows like Colinux
[12:09] <repozitor> iptable, but i need to block ALL, seems this command block all icmp!
[12:10] <cfhowlett> Dors, use colinux?
[12:10] <iptable> repozitor: use this command and confirm that ping isn't working any more
[12:10] <iptable> repozitor: if it still works, you are doing something wrong.
[12:10] <Dors> I want DE
[12:10] <Ben64> Dors: then you're in the wrong channel. this is #ubuntu, for Ubuntu support only. What you want is not Ubuntu.
[12:11] <Dors> no
[12:11] <cfhowlett> Dors, hasn't been upgraded in 2 years --- good luck with that
[12:11] <Dors> I wnat Ubuntu and its Ubuntu channel
[12:11] <repozitor> iptable, how to block users to run ifconfig?
[12:11] <repozitor> i want they can't read ifconfig output!
[12:11] <iptable> repozitor: users will not be able to run ifconfig if they don't have root/sudo access anyways. they will be able to see IP assignment, but that's it
[12:11] <cfhowlett> Dors, ubuntu is not colinux.  you can install in virtualbox.
[12:11] <Dors> netbook
[12:12] <iptable> repozitor: it is not a security feature (blocking users from knowing their IP address)
[12:12] <cfhowlett> Dors, just for fun= sentences?
[12:12] <repozitor> iptable, sure, they can't change ifconfig configuration, but if they use ifconfig, they can see other interfaces ip
[12:12] <Dors> what?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> !details|Dors,
[12:12] <iptable> repozitor: ifconfig, ip and other tools can tell the user what IP it is...
[12:13] <iptable> repozitor: so? users should be allow to see all interfaces. there is nothing wrong with users seeing interfaces and IPs
[12:13] <repozitor> i want to hide them for limited users :D
[12:13] <Dors> Ubuntu like colinux where get?
[12:13] <repozitor> iptable, but i want to deny them to accessing ifconfig, so how to do it?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> Dors you can get ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <maxvi> how can I use sed command without file input? I want use some string
[12:14] <Dors> I said like colinux
[12:14] <Ben64> maxvi: |
[12:14] <k1l> Dors: dont ask again: no colinux with ubuntu
[12:14] <DJones> Dors: There isn't an UBuntu like colinux
[12:14] <iptable> repozitor: this is plain wrong. there is no reason to deny user from accessing ifconfig. and even if you do, they can see interfaces by typing in ip addr sh
[12:15] <iptable> repozitor: and in owrst case by doing cat in /proc. users can know the IP address. live with it. it's normal and it is not a security threat
[12:15] <Dors> Its what? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/colinux-portable-ubuntu-for-windows/
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Dors, ubuntu is NOT colinux.  sorry.
[12:15] <iptable> repozitor: not sure what you are trying to achieve here anyways. If users are blocked using netfilter firewall (iptables) from accessing the network at all, what's the point of blocking ifconfig...
[12:15] <Dors> my link?
[12:16] <iptable> Dors, wubi
[12:16] <k1l> Dors: then ask them for support. that is not officially ubuntu
[12:16] <k1l> iptable: wubi :(
[12:16] <cfhowlett> iptable, wubi is dead and no longer supported
[12:16] <DJones> Dors: Thats not an official release, its not something thats supported here, you'll need to find their own support channel to get help with that
[12:16] <iptable> yes, though it is 12.04 and will give him an ubuntu with some kind of GUI...
[12:17] <cfhowlett> iptable, thus the virtualbox suggestions ...
[12:17] <repozitor> iptable, sure, got it
[12:17] <repozitor> sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT
[12:18] <Dors> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableubuntu/ 1 year old not bad
[12:18] <repozitor> i don't know why this command don't block users icmp ping packets
[12:18] <iptable> cfhowlett: ++ good idea! Dors, use virtualbox with seamless mode. gives you full OS with a seamless integration into windows
[12:18] <repozitor> they still can ping 8.8.8.8
[12:18] <Dors> no
[12:18] <Dors> i founded better
[12:18] <k1l> Dors: its dead. see the link to the project in the last link
[12:19] <iptable> repozitor: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner --uid-owner 1000 -j REJECT - worked for me
[12:19] <cfhowlett> Dors, we are not going to help you with co-ubuntu/linux/anything.   for netbook, install lubuntu.  we can help with that.  Otherwise - look elsewhere.  sorry..
[12:19] <iptable> repozitor: are you putting UID of user in the UID field?
[12:19] <iptable> repozitor: or trying the actual name of user? should be UID number
[12:19] <Dors> ok, u can go
[12:19] <repozitor> iptable, i put their usernames like user1
[12:19] <repozitor> how to find uid of users?
[12:19] <iptable> repozitor: since the parameter is --uid-owner - try the UID
[12:20] <iptable> repozitor: try cat /etc/passwd
[12:22] <iptable> repozitor: you can also create a group, and put the users you want to limit into that group and set: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner --gid-owner 1000 -j REJECT
[12:22] <iptable> repozitor: note: the number after gid-owner is the group ID. get it from cat /etc/group
[12:23] <iptable> repozitor: although I could give you better suggestion/help if you told me what ACTUALLY you are trying to achieve with that box.
[12:25] <repozitor> iptable, but -m icmp doesn't work for me, i don't see any error
[12:25] <iptable> repozitor: what do you mean you "don't see any error"? with correct UID of user in the field, it does work. ping generates destination host unreachable afterwards. cannot ping.
[12:26] <repozitor> iptable, can i describe my steps?
[12:26] <repozitor> so tell me what was wrong with me, ok?
[12:27] <iptable> repozitor: ok
[12:27] <iptable> repozitor: first thing wrong is that you are trying to perform system administrator configuration of linux without knowing how to use it from command prompt in the first place. but do tell what you have done so far
[12:28] <repozitor> 1-i have created a username named "user1" by this command
[12:28] <repozitor> adduser —home /home/user1 user1
[12:29] <iptable> do continue
[12:29] <repozitor> 2- checking user1 uid
[12:29] <repozitor> cat /etc/passwd -> uid for user1 is 1001
[12:30] <repozitor> 3-after that i have login with my admin access, then i run this command
[12:30] <repozitor> iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner —uid-owner 1001 -j REJECT
[12:30] <iptable> ok, and then?
[12:30] <iptable> how did you test?
[12:30] <repozitor> 4-running this command
[12:30] <repozitor> iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner —uid-owner 1001 -j REJECT
[12:30] <repozitor> test what?
[12:31] <iptable> step 5, test with ping.
[12:31] <nullck> repozitor, su - user1 and try ping
[12:31] <ghost_> hello
[12:32] <iptable> hello
[12:32] <repozitor> iptable, sorry, disconnected
[12:32] <repozitor> so i login to user1 account, and ping google, and see RTT is 80ms
[12:32] <iptable> repozitor: how DID you login as user1 account?
[12:33] <repozitor> by ssh user1@ip
[12:33] <iptable> repozitor: that actually worked? for a start you didn't configure a password for the user1
[12:34] <iptable> repozitor: once you login, run: whoami - make sure you ARE user1.
[12:34] <repozitor> iptable, when you adduser some user, it require it password
[12:34] <repozitor> ok
[12:34] <iptable> repozitor: no, it does not ask for a password on ubuntu
[12:34] <repozitor> whoami tell me i'm user1
[12:35] <iptable> repozitor: sudo useradd --home /home/test test - this will not ask for a password. it just creates the user.
[12:35] <repozitor> iptable, but ssh user1@ip ask for password.
[12:35] <iptable> repozitor: so how did you login as user1 using ssh if you didn't set password for user1?
[12:35] <repozitor> i use adduser NOT useradd!
[12:35] <Ben64> adduser does ask for a password...
[12:35] <whoDc> su user1; passwd newpasshere
[12:35] <repozitor> exactly
[12:35] <iptable> oh, used adduser. sorry. misread.
[12:36] <iptable> repozitor: can you please give me output of iptables -L -vn
[12:36] <iptable> repozitor: and iptables -t nat -L -vn
[12:37] <Ben64> btw, i tried it iptable, and pings still do go through
[12:38] <Ben64> it stops dns lookups, but ping works fine
[12:38] <iptable> Ben64 no, they don't.
[12:38] <Ben64> i assure you they do
[12:38] <iptable> the -p icmp I asked to put it does stop pings
[12:38] <repozitor> iptables -t return:
[12:38] <repozitor> iptables v1.4.12: option "-t" require  an argument
[12:38] <iptable> Ben64 - I assure you they don't.
[12:38] <Ben64> it surely does not iptable, i'm not new to linux or ubuntu, and what you have suggested does not work how you describe
[12:38] <iptable> ok, do hold on
[12:39] <nisim> hello
[12:39] <iptable> Ben64:
[12:39] <iptable>   655  ping 8.8.8.8
[12:39] <iptable>   656  sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -m owner --uid-owner 1000 -j REJECT
[12:39] <iptable>   657  ping 8.8.8.8
[12:39] <FloodBot1> iptable: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <nisim> i have philipsfree vents x56 i downloaded ubuntu no audio i can not hear nothing please helpmeto resolve the issue  thanks in advance
[12:40] <iptable> Ben64: first ping worked, second ping doesn't work anymore. the rule does stop pings for user UID 1000
[12:40] <repozitor> iptables -L -vn return:
[12:40] <repozitor> pkt	bytes	target	prot	opt	in	out	source	destination
[12:40] <repozitor> 14	858		REJECT	icmp	—	*	*	0.0.0.0/0	0.0.0.0/0
[12:40] <Ben64> iptable: for you perhaps
[12:41] <iptable> Ben64: on 1 router and 2 PCs. Ubuntu 14.04, 12.04 and 13.10.
[12:41] <nisim> i have philipsfree vents x56 i downloaded ubuntu no audio i can not hear nothing please helpmeto resolve the issue  thanks in advance
[12:41] <iptable> repozitor: ok, let's try this: iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -j REJECT
[12:42] <iptable> repozitor: then try ping as any user you wish. it will return destination host unreachable
[12:42] <repozitor> iptable, is there needing to clear old iptables data?
[12:42] <Ben64> iptable: that works fine
[12:42] <iptable> repozitor: you "should*, but you are overwriting them with using -I anyways (first rule works first), so that's fine. iptables -F will clear. you can do that to by safe
[12:43] <iptable> Ben64: in that case you are either doing something wrong with -m owner or you don't have that feature (how?)
[12:43] <repozitor> iptable, yes but that reject all ping, admin need to ping :D
[12:44] <iptable> repozitor: confirm that reject all ping works please. once you do that, we will clean the rules with -F and try to figure out why your -m owner isn't working
[12:44] <nisim> i have philipsfree vents x56 i downloaded ubuntu no audio i can not hear nothing please helpmeto resolve the issue  thanks in advance
[12:44] <repozitor> pinging hostnames and ip's was closed in all account, admin and limited users
[12:44] <Layke> Hi. I have this problem where my mouse jumps from the right screen to to the futherest edge on left screen when I transition between monitors. I can't find out where to disbale. It's like this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2083893
[12:45] <Layke> Someone posted saying: (settings>window manager>advanced>wrap workspaces
[12:45] <iptable> repozitor: please do ls -l /bin/ping
[12:45] <Layke> I am on 12.04 LTS.
[12:45] <Ben64> iptable: ah, you've solved it, it's suid for some reason
[12:46] <iptable> Ben64: I was suspecting that. But for some reason the binary is suid here as well, but the iptables rule does stop it. go figure ...
[12:46] <repozitor> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 34740 Nov 8 2011 /bin/ping
[12:46] <iptable> repozitor: sudo chmod -s /bin/ping
[12:47] <Ben64> that will stop everyone but root from using ping, which is what he wants, so... yeah
[12:47] <repozitor> setting pollicy for running ping or not, isn't a good way!
[12:47] <iptable> Ben64: yeah, pretty much.
[12:47] <repozitor> probably there are a better way to do that
[12:48] <Ben64> well what you want to do is strange :)
[12:48] <iptable> repozitor: what Ben64 said
[12:48] <repozitor> blocking network activity is prettier than blocking ping command
[12:48] <iptable> repozitor: why you want root to ping and non-root not to ping?
[12:48] <Ben64> the iptables command should block everything else that isn't suid
[12:48] <repozitor> iptable, why iptablee do what you want exactly, but don't for me?
[12:49] <Ben64> iptable must have a different setup, maybe selinux or something like that
[12:50] <repozitor> iptable, did you ever block network traffic for sample user by iptables?
[12:50] <iptable> Ben64: standard install only. weird, no? works on 13.10 and 14.04 100%. that's how I limit my kids...
[12:50] <Ben64> well i'm on 12.04
[12:50] <repozitor> iptable, i'm on 12.04!
[12:50] <iptable> repozitor: yes. for my kids. iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner 1001 -j REJECT blocks all internet traffic for user 1001.
[12:51] <iptable> repozitor: on 12.04 for some reason ping seems to run fully as root, which means that this block will not affect ping. ping auto-runs as UID 0 :/.
[12:52] <iptable> repozitor: ping on later versions seems to work correctly, i.e. uses root privileges to only gain access to open icmp socket, but executes itself as UID user.
[12:53] <iptable> repozitor: so use that rule to block everything apart from the command ping (the rule will also block icmp and ping for normal users, just not the single command PING), and remove suid from ping to fix that.
[12:53] <iptable> repozitor: I still don't know what is the end result you are trying to achieve...
[12:53] <iptable> Ben64: on my 12.04, I don't have suid on ping, but then again, I don't execute ping as non-root haha. box is purely for pppd anyways.
[12:55] <lix> is it possible the last update creates a locale error? - is there a fix somewhere?
[12:55] <lix> I get the following error: locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[12:55] <iptable> repozitor: although I don't see a reason why you would want to allow SSH to a box and disallow any outgoing network connections from that box alone and only for certain users. so your request is a bit odd.
[12:56] <iptable> repozitor: and once again: PING is NOT a hacker tool...
[12:56] <repozitor> iptable, seems ubuntu is buggy, because when i use
[12:56] <repozitor> iptables -I OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner 1001 -j REJECT
[12:56] <repozitor> before this command both hosnames and ip's can be pined from user1
[12:56] <repozitor> but after this command just ip's can be pinged from user1
[12:56] <iptable> repozitor: that is not a bug
[12:56] <repozitor> iptable, that is bug, be sure
[12:56] <iptable> repozitor: after this command, DNS requests no longer work. you have blocked outgoing connections, so DNS lookups do not work here
[12:57] <jpds> iptable: Yo
[12:57] <iptable> jpds: yo
[12:57] <repozitor> iptable, after this command all of udp and tcp connection will be cloes?
[12:57] <iptable> repozitor: so that IS per design and configuration. it is not a bug.
[12:57] <repozitor> i want something like this,
[12:58] <iptable> repozitor: yes. all tcp and udp OUTBOUND connections will be stopped. that's what you have requested originally.
[12:59] <iptable> repozitor: only. ping tool has suid on it, so it can run itself as root, going around that rule. that's why you can still ping IPs. remove suid from ping command, problem solved.
[12:59] <repozitor> iptable, in addition if iptables block icmp pings, i hit to my end
[12:59] <iptable> repozitor: iptables DOES block icmp for the user you specified, but the PING command is set to execute as root, using a special "suid" flag, no matter what user executes it. Remove that flag from ping and problem is solved.
[13:00] <repozitor> iptable, and i should do this for 1000 command, that isn't bad idea :D
[13:00] <iptable> repozitor: 1000 command?
[13:01] <repozitor> bin/bash
[13:01] <iptable> ooh, wait. I *might* hae a modifier flag for ping
[13:01] <repozitor> how do you put / as first character msg on channel?
[13:02] <iptable> repozitor: here: sudo chmod 4755 /bin/ping
[13:02] <iptable> repozitor: I normally put a space as first character, then /
[13:02] <iptable>  /like this
[13:03] <repozitor> inserting a space before /?
[13:03] <repozitor>  /bin/bash
[13:03] <repozitor> yes, works fine
[13:03] <repozitor> this answer is better than your iptables answer :D
[13:03] <nisim> downloaded ubuntu 12.04 to philips freevents x56 no audio driverplease help
[13:03] <iptable> repozitor: so the iptables block rule with UIDs (the full block rule). it blocks icmp as well. THEN to fix ping, execute: sudo chmod 4755 /bin/ping - and ping will work as expected too
[13:04] <iptable> repozitor: now you are being rude. my iptabes one does work well and does what you want it to
[13:04] <repozitor> iptable, takes it easy, i'm joking, if you don't like, so i will stop it :)
[13:05] <repozitor> iptable, which ubuntu version?
[13:05] <iptable> repozitor: and I even found a full workaround now which works. iptables block rule + chmod 4755 /bin/ping - all OUTGOING connections will not be stopped on 12.04
[13:05] <nisim> 12.04 ls
[13:05] <iptable> repozitor: I got 14.04, 13.10, 12.04, depends where.
[13:06] <repozitor> as you know, i add my user in that way
[13:06] <repozitor> can they change/modify other files instead of their home?
[13:06] <iptable> Ben64: found the difference. seens chmod 4755 /bin/ping makes ping works as expected while the '+s' makes it run as root to end.
[13:07] <repozitor> i want all limited users, just can read/write to their home, now writing to somewhere esle.
[13:07] <repozitor> not*
[13:07] <iptable> repozitor: users can modify any files which they have permissions to modify. So any file with the user's owner/group and write permissions for owner/group. also any file with write permissions to "other"
[13:07] <Bo1a> is dropbox a good choice for linux/ubuntu or is there something else more suitable?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: its fine, does what it says on the tin
[13:07] <repozitor> ok, got it
[13:07] <k1l> Bo1a: dropbox runs fine. so does ubuntu one
[13:07] <iptable> repozitor: what you are looking for is a chroot environment for users. what DO you want users to be able to do?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: we can't possibly comment on 'suitable' as there is no details
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: suitable for what exactly?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Bo1a, ^^^ well said
[13:08] <repozitor> iptable, just writing c ource code, and then run them, JUST THIS
[13:08] <repozitor> c source*
[13:08] <repozitor> c, sometimes assembly code
[13:08] <iptable> repozitor: so you want users to be able to write code in c/assembly and compile it in gcc and run it.
[13:08] <repozitor> yes
[13:09] <Bo1a> ActionParsnip: just for basic use, I meant 'suitable' for linux
[13:09] <iptable> repozitor: a development box... normally, you would let them write C code on their machines, in their favourite environment (like eclipse), and commit the code to the box only. not code using vim on that box...
[13:10] <iptable> repozitor: but if that is your preferred choice, are the users supposed to share some code?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: yes, there is the package nautilus-dropbox and will give dropbox functionality
[13:10] <Bo1a> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: saying 'suitable' doesnt tellus anything
[13:10] <iptable> repozitor: if not, look at debootstrap and chroot or even at lxc. that would isolate users nicely (even if not foul-proof)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: there is a client, so it will work. That has nothing to do with suitability
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: some people dont like dropbox as the transfer between systems is not secured
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: but you havent said anything like that...so we cannoy comment
[13:11] <repozitor> iptable, i need to keep their code, all of the users code is same as to each other.
[13:11] <repozitor> dunno what is debootstrap
[13:12] <repozitor> iptable, they write same code, this is not a big projects to use svn or ..
[13:12] <iptable> Bola: or use mega.co.nz with megatools if you prefer. it's apparently safe. apparently.
[13:13] <Bo1a> ActionParsnip: are there any cross platform (win/lin) that has secure transfers and works like dropbox?
[13:13] <Bo1a> iptable: I will take a look
[13:13] <iptable> repozitor: so you want them all to write code for the same application? that means they will at least need to have access to each-other's files
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Bo1a: ubuntuone is not bad, there are a few. Dropbox is probably easier if you have the system already setup
[13:14] <repozitor> iptable, they can't read the other users files
[13:14] <iptable> repozitor: it's a dirty way to do things, but yeah. iptables block + the chmod on ping should be sufficient for you. if you got a malicious developer anyways, that linux box is the least of your worries...
[13:15] <Bo1a> ActionParsnip: yes I already use it between 3 pc's and phones, so dropbox it is
[13:15] <iptable> repozitor: look at debootstrap and chroot or at LXC anyways. could be good for you. http://glonek.co.uk/tips-tricks/ubuntu-debootstrap-and-chroot/ - you could chroot users when they ssh in and remove any tools you don't want them to run from the chroot altogether.
[13:16]  * iptable oscar-uniform-tango. need a coffee.
[13:17] <repozitor1> unstable connection, sorry
[13:17] <iptable> replay <iptable> repozitor: look at debootstrap and chroot or at LXC anyways. could be good for you. http://glonek.co.uk/tips-tricks/ubuntu-debootstrap-and-chroot/ - you could chroot users when they ssh in and remove any tools you don't want them to run from the chroot altogether.
[13:18] <repozitor1> hhhm, fine
[13:23] <repozitor> iptable, final question is
[13:23] <repozitor> how to set iptable with this rules for always?
[13:24] <repozitor> i think, but shutting dowb ubuntu, this rules will cleared, right?
[13:24] <iptable> repozitor: first: iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules
[13:25] <repozitor> iptable, so iptables read iptables.rules at startup?
[13:25] <iptable> repozitor: no. then: put a script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ - call it iptables.load or something. make it executable
[13:25] <iptable> repozitor: in the script #!/bin/bash \\ /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/iptables.rules
[13:25] <iptable> repozitor: replace \\ with line feed
[13:27] <repozitor> *don't understand last line*
[13:27] <iptable> repozitor: you do know line feed right? the enter key
[13:27] <repozitor> no
[13:28] <repozitor> #!/bin/bash
[13:28] <iptable> repozitor: you do press ENTER when you send in IRC. that is line feed
[13:28] <repozitor> no no
[13:28] <iptable> repozitor: yes, that was first line. and put the restore bit in the second line
[13:29] <repozitor> which where i should put this line?
[13:29] <repozitor> /etc/iptables.rules
[13:29] <repozitor> in .bash?
[13:29] <repozitor>  /home/user1/.bash?
[13:30] <iptable> repozitor: no!!!! as I said, in /etc/network/if... just wait...
[13:30] <repozitor> lol
[13:31] <iptable> repozitor: run this as root: echo -e '#!/bin/bash\n/sbin/iptables-restore /etc/iptables.rules' > /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables.load; chmod 755 /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables.load; iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules
[13:31] <iptable> repozitor: that will do it all for you. But I do suggest you try to learn linux.
[13:31] <repozitor> which book?
[13:32] <iptable> I did not mention book...
[13:32] <repozitor> needing a good and summry
[13:32] <repozitor> so how to learn it?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: look around online for examples, read man pages
[13:32] <iptable> repozitor: google for some tutorials and guides and look at man pages for things
[13:32] <iptable> repozitor: man ping; man iptables; etc...
[13:32]  * cfhowlett likes "linux for Dummies" ...
[13:33] <repozitor> iptable, ok, i will do as your suggestion.
[13:34] <iptable> repozitor: I have written a very old and outdated guide on setting up a linux server, but you need to get familiar with the general terms first. here is it nevertheless (a bit buggy for today's setups and may contain stuff that could be done better, but hey. live and learn). http://glonek.co.uk/old-site/my_work.php
[13:35] <iptable> the guide was for ubuntu 9.04 haha. But someone recently installed from it (modifying the bits that didn't fit - the LEARGNING experience) and said it still worked.
[13:46] <Cigrits> anyone familiar with munin know how to make a plugin that had warning and critical lower limits.
[14:00] <Binksley> 1
[14:00] <junka> 2
[14:01] <Binksley> oops sorry cursor in wrong terminal
[14:08] <murlidhar> hi all can anyone tell me if there is any patch for unity for the window dodging feature
[14:16] <nisim> philips freevents x59 downloded ubuntu 12.04 can not find the audio drivers no voice is coming please help
[14:20] <nisim> philips freevents x59 downloded ubuntu 12.04 can not find the audio drivers no voice is coming please help
[14:28] <iptable> nisim: looks like no one at this time knows the answer. but a quick google shows loads of people having issues with linux and philips freevents range ...
[14:34] <tiblock> Hi. Is there some console GUI for archive manager? Like "aptitude" for "apt-get" and "htop" for "top"?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> tiblock: if you install unp, you can extract any archive with one command
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !info 2a
[14:37] <geirha> tiblock: Maybe midnight commander can do what you want..? btw, they're often referred to as TUIs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_user_interface
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> !info tarman
[14:38] <tiblock> ActionParsnip, geirha, thank you
[14:51] <garylabronz> how do i lock the screen, when my lid closes.  Without using the gnome-panel/screensaver & lock settings ?
[14:51] <garylabronz> like pragmatically setting it
[14:51] <garylabronz> does upstart handle those events?
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> garylabronz: thats acpid
[14:52] <Touhou11> I think upstart is deprecated anyway
[14:52] <garylabronz> upstart is deprecated? for what systemd ?
[14:53] <garylabronz> hitsujiTMO: thanks, ill look into it
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> no upstart isn't deprecated
[14:53] <Pici> Touhou11: I think you're thinking of HAL.
[14:54] <Touhou11> I thought everyone was switching to systemd
[14:54] <hellknight> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on my Core i5 4570 and the integrated HD4600 graphics. But I'm getting green screen while playing videos on VLC. Any remedies?
[14:54] <Pici> Touhou11: Ubuntu isn't. *shrug*
[14:56] <garylabronz> Touhou11: ubuntu wont, its canonical little bitch
[14:56] <garylabronz> it isnt that bad but for the CLA
[14:56] <Pici> garylabronz: mind your language and attitude please.
[14:57] <Touhou11> garylabronz: Heh. Shame, it's designed by Lennart Poettering who is revolutionizing lots of core architecture :)
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> hellknight: have you tried different video output methods under the options?
[15:00] <karmahacker> hi Guys which firewall to install on ubuntu
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> karmahacker: one is already installed, iptables
[15:01] <karmahacker> ActionParsnip is a bit hard for me yet ))
[15:01] <prepangolin> How do I install Ubuntu12.04 on Macbook?
[15:01] <Pici> !firewall | karmahacker
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> karmahacker: is the system always used behind a router?
[15:02] <Touhou11> karmahacker: nftables if you're using a recent kernel
[15:02] <karmahacker> something like  UFW
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> karmahacker: you cna use ufw if you wish
[15:03] <karmahacker> but not UFW  iforgot the name (  also 3 leters
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> !ufw
[15:06] <dupingping86> Hello!
[15:07] <prepangolin> Hello buddy!
[15:07] <karmahacker> Mister Shapow help me last time(but my hdd is gone and there no logs of our conversation), i  want to close all ports on my server vnc ports especislly and  use vnc over ssh what should i allow in ufw ?
[15:07] <dupingping86> question
[15:07] <dupingping86> help me
[15:08] <dupingping86> how to create a debian package.
[15:08] <dupingping86> ?
[15:08] <Pici> !newpackage | dupingping86
[15:08] <dupingping86> ok
[15:08] <vela> q
[15:08] <dupingping86> ubottu ok!!!
[15:09] <vela> ok
[15:09] <prepangolin> How to install Ubunt LTS12.04 on Macbook?
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> !mac
[15:09] <prepangolin> Thanks.
[15:11] <Touhou11> dupingping86: https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging
[15:12] <repozitor> iptable, after i restart my client, limited users can access to network, i check iptables -L -vn and see there is no rule for avoid users from network activity.
[15:12] <repozitor> can someone tell me how to fix that?
[15:13] <prepangolin> ubottu, you are not human, I think.
[15:13] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, any idea?
[15:13] <theUserII> I'm using xfce... how can i get those propper scroll bars back.... this thing that autohides is not working well for me
[15:14] <leeyaa> do you guys know how to fix this library libaprutil-1.so -> libaprutil-1.so.0.2.8  ? i did fix most of my broken ones just cant find this one
[15:15] <nisim> philips freevents x59 downloded ubuntu 12.04 can not find the audio drivers no voice is coming please help
[15:15] <karven> Anybody online?
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> karven  type /names to find out
[15:17] <Touhou11> nisim: What audio device does the laptop contain?
[15:17] <karven> Who knows ubuntu very much?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> karven: the developers
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> prepangolin  keep it in the channel please
[15:18] <Touhou11> nisim: Run "lspci -v"
[15:18] <dupingping86> Touhou11: Let's hit.
[15:19] <prepangolin> Here
[15:19] <dupingping86> Touhow11: I think that I can help you and you too.
[15:19] <karven> How to create a screen short
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> karven: press Print screen on your keyboard
[15:20] <karven> Can it be sent in this chatting room
[15:21] <dupingping86> Good bye! ubuntu world!
[15:21] <dupingping86> let's see tommorow!
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> karven: use imageshack / tinypic etc
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> karven  yes, use imagebin.com
[15:22] <karven> Ohh! What I need to learn is really .........
[15:24] <prepangolin> Goodbye linuxers.
[15:24] <karven> I use windows 7 as well as Ubuntukylin,But the download speed in ubuntukylin is really slow,why?Can it be more quick?
[15:24] <prepangolin> See you all.
[15:24] <karven> what?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntukylin = chinese ubuntu
[15:24] <karven> yes
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin
[15:24] <karven> you know that?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> karven: I have the web, I can appear to know everything
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> karven: how do you connect to the web? 3G Wireless? Wired?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> karven  and Google knows you secretly are a cat
[15:25] <karven> Sorry,I'm Chinese senior high school student
[15:25] <karven> So I can only understand few simple sentence
[15:26] <karven> I use wired
[15:26] <LockeAnarchist> karven: do you are using cellphone internet?
[15:27] <karven> Yes
[15:27] <karven> 4G Wireless
[15:27] <LockeAnarchist> karven: what is your device?
[15:27] <LockeAnarchist> to connect
[15:28] <karven> It must be more slow than wired
[15:28] <karven> Bye
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> karmahacker: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    what is the Ethernet chip you use?
[15:30] <karmahacker> lshw: command not found   ActionParsnip
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> karmahacker: its in a default install
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> karmahacker: sudo apt-get install lshw
[15:31] <karmahacker> ActionParsnip what is for ?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> karmahacker: it lists the hardware in your system.....
[15:32] <ishwon> hi folks
[15:33] <ishwon> a question. is it possible to give 'su' rights to one user, to be able to switch account to only one other account/
[15:33] <karmahacker> ActionParsnip yes, but how it macth with my firewall questin ?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> ishwon: if they have the password for the account they can su to it, you need thepassword of teh account you are su'ing to
[15:33] <K4k> What's the proper way to express if /dev/sda; then ....; elif /dev/hda; elif .....; fi using the parted-auto option in a preseed.cfg file?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> karmahacker: if your network access is running slow, we need to know the Ethernet chip so we can investigate
[15:35] <karmahacker> ActionParsnip i guess it is karven asked  about that )
[15:36] <helmut_> hi
[15:36] <K4k> er, sorry, I mean the partman-auto section, not parted-auto :D
[15:37] <jamie_> I heard that the support for 10.04 LTS server is going to be extended past April now.  Is that right?
[15:38] <Jin> hi,dear
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> jamie_  http://ubuntuone.com/434GupdpZzDds9LCEcPyH5
[15:38] <Jin> i have some problem about ubuntu system security.
[15:38] <Jin> please help me
[15:39] <sunmoon> hi all
[15:41] <sunmoon> how do I determine what version of xubuntu i am running?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> sunmoon  lsb_release -sd
[15:42] <sunmoon> thank you, much appreciated
[15:42] <jamie_> MonkeyDust: thanks
[15:42] <kc9iid> anyone know how to change grub with grub customizer in ubuntu 13.10? I have been unable to do it.
[15:43] <tzhuang> Hey guys. Anyone familiar with the GNU assembler AS?
[15:43] <tzhuang> I'm trying to assemble code for the HC12 (.s19).
[15:44] <tzhuang> According to the man pages, there's a -m68hc12 option.
[15:44] <tzhuang> But when I try to run it, I get "as: unrecognized option -m68hc12"
[15:46] <fer755> --hc68hc12 ?
[15:47] <tzhuang> fer755: same error
[15:47] <tzhuang> fer755: unrecognized option
[15:50] <fer755> tzhuang no idea then
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> kc9iid: what do you want to change?
[15:52] <longshorej> I have autofs setup and integrated with LDAP. If the LDAP server is down when I bring another machine up, the only way to get the machine's autofs to work is to restart the autofs service after the LDAP server comes online. Ideally it would be able to attempt to communicate with the LDAP server on its own without having to intervene. Any ideas if that sort of configuration is possible?
[15:53] <Touhou11> tzhuang: Possibly the Ubuntu build of GAS doesn't support that architecture, there's a way to check but I forget the option
[15:54] <frozen_guest> hello, can anyone suggest me what should I do? i just did dist-upgrade and after some time of upgrading everything froze, last update was linux-image-3.8.0... and after it there is written Done.  and nothing happens... should i just restart laptop or what?
[15:54] <geirha> Wouldn't be the first time a feature was omited/changed for a command, but the corresponding change in the man-page was forgotten
[15:55] <Pici> longshorej: I can't really provide details, but I was looking at an LDAP problem here recently and ran across nscd, which might help in your case. If anything, it might be enough to point you in the right direction: https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/NSS
[15:55] <Pici> longshorej: My issue ended up not needing nscd, so I can't really help further.
[15:56] <longshorej> Pici: Thanks for the thought. I am using nscd so maybe it's related, will take a look
[15:57] <Edic> moo
[15:57] <frozen_guest> hello, can anyone suggest me what should I do? i just did dist-upgrade and after some time of upgrading everything froze, last update was linux-image-3.8.0... and after it there is written Done.  and nothing happens... should i just restart laptop or what?
 I'm trying to change grub screen from 640 x 480 to 1600 x 900(laptop default) and the background image, but the changes made in grub customizer, when saved, don't take effect when rebooting.
[15:58] <Walex> frozen_guest: it can take a long time compiling external kernel modules.
[15:58] <olsonea> Hi #ubuntu! I've got a noobish question that I've tried to resolve on my own. I am working with a Wordpress site installed at /var/www. My user is in the www-data group, and everything under /var/www is owned by www-data:www-data. The problem is to modify anything, create a new dir, etc, I still have to sudo foocmd. What am  I missing?
[15:58] <Walex> frozen_guest: but that should be at most minutes.
[15:59] <frozen_guest> ok thanks
[15:59] <Scott1993phone>  U
[15:59] <Walex> frozen_guest: the other possibility is that your machine has very little memory and is swapping like crazy
[15:59] <Walex> frozen_guest: another is that it is somehow waiting for some input.
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> olsonea  on a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:59] <olsonea> MonkeyDust: yes, it's a server
[16:00] <olsonea> thanks
[16:03] <chairman_meow> hello
[16:03] <chairman_meow>  I have a radeon gfx card
[16:04] <chairman_meow> I need to know the build date of the currently installed driver
[16:09] <aaron> Anyone have any ideas as to why I have such a difficult time getting Tor to work on 13.10?
[16:10] <reko888_> whats the best resolution to design a website for nowadays
[16:10] <Guest6767> When I run the start script it just pulls it up, no browser
[16:10] <reko888_> is it still 960px??
[16:10] <LoRez> reko888_: it's still "don't design a website for a specific resolution"
[16:11] <reko888_> i see
[16:11] <reko888_> so make it responsive is what your saying?
[16:11] <Aaron17> Or could someone give me some advice as to how to go about properly downloading/installing Tor
[16:11] <tzhuang> I'm trying to install binutils-m68hc1x via apt-get
[16:11] <tzhuang> errr
[16:11] <tzhuang> rather
[16:11] <LoRez> how many different types of devices do you think people view websites via these days?
[16:11] <tzhuang> m68hc12-gasp
[16:11] <Aaron17> I mean, all i should have to do is download, extract and run start script correct?
[16:12] <LoRez> Aaron17: I believe the tor project has their own PPA
[16:12] <tzhuang> i get
[16:12] <tzhuang> The program 'm68hc12-gasp' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[16:12] <reko888_> gotcha haha
[16:12] <tzhuang> sudo apt-get install binutils-m68hc12
[16:12] <tzhuang> which I do
[16:12] <Aaron17> Downloading vidalia via the software center has caused problems as well
[16:12] <tzhuang> but when i try to run it, it tells me
[16:12] <tzhuang> The program 'm68hc12-gasp' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[16:12] <tzhuang> sudo apt-get install binutils-m68hc12 lol
[16:12] <Aaron17> LoRez, I've downloaded the package from Tor's site, just cant get it to work
[16:13] <Aaron17> LoRez, Would have still have to add the PPA, thats for downloading only for downloading isnt it?
[16:13] <LoRez> Aaron17: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[16:14] <phil-ns> reko888_: do some searching on css, particularily the viewport parameter
[16:14] <LoRez> Aaron17: I suggest option two.
[16:14] <Aaron17> LoRez, Haha, yes, I see that the very first line is do not use the packages :/
[16:16] <LoRez> Aaron17: it is "do not use the packages IN UBUNTU"....  the tor project has their own debian/ubuntu package archives for updated packages to use.
[16:16] <Aaron17> LoRez, Yeah, i got ya. Cool deal
[16:16] <atpa8a> hello
[16:17] <atpa8a> does update-grub work for efi boot if i make changes to /etc/default/grub?
[16:17] <TJ-> atpa8a: Yes
[16:17] <Walex> frozen_guest: you can use kill it and restart the 'dist-upgrade' and it should be fine, but if you are in a GUI, you can check by opening a new console window and looking at processes and 'vmstat 1'
[16:17] <atpa8a> hmm
[16:17] <atpa8a> mine didn't...
[16:18] <atpa8a> i wsa getting 'volume (null)' stuff
[16:18] <Walex> reko888_: your questions on best size for websites has two different aspects to it...
[16:19] <Walex> reko888_: one is about the *optical* property of the site's text. You should aim at making it look good at the size in which it looks best.
[16:20] <reko888_> ok
[16:20] <Walex> reko888_: the other however is that most modern browsers finally can resize windows and scale graphical elements, so the second goal should be to make it look not bad no matter how it gets resized and scaled.
[16:21] <Walex> reko888_: this is important because nearly or even more than half of site viewers use tablets with screens very, very different from those of desktops.
[16:22] <Walex> reko888_: so for example all those iPad users with a Retina display will have the site rescaled  in Portrait mode and wider than 960px etc.
[16:24] <lillo> help me please! and sorry for my english (im italian) yesterday iv upgraded my ubuntu from 11:10 to 12:04, but after restarting,these screen appeared... what i have to do?? maybe i have issues with apache? nanny? python? i dont know.... help!! and my ethernet doesnt work, only wifi connection
[16:24] <lillo> http://imagebin.org/289530
[16:25] <cortexA9> hello
[16:25] <cortexA9> i wanna help to seeding ubuntu isos
[16:26] <atpa8a> any clues on upgrade-grub/efi?
[16:26] <mrproper2> I have an Ubuntu setup with a static IP and I am defining dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 in the eth0 section but DNS isn't working.
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  use deluge or so
[16:28] <compdoc> mrproper2, what does this file contain: /etc/resolv.conf
[16:28] <TJ-> mrproper2: Check "man resolvconf", section "ifup" ... I think you'll find it is "dns-nameservers" (note the plural)
[16:28] <mrproper2> compdoc: Only comments, nothing else.
[16:28] <compdoc> have you rebooted?
[16:29] <mrproper2> Yes it's rebooted.
[16:29] <compdoc> mrproper2, what is the line in /etc/network/interfaces that you used?
[16:29] <mrproper2> tj-: Thta was it, plural.
[16:29] <ansrster> If I completely format over my windows 8 pre install will I still hqve the UEFI boot problems?
[16:30] <TJ-> mrproper2: It's a common mistake :)
[16:30] <reko888_> thanks walex
[16:46] <hask> afdafds
[16:46] <hask> oi
[16:46] <hask> oi
[16:51] <Left_Turn> "" > file  ... this is the best way to create blank file in terminal?
[16:52] <Left_Turn> with a lead echo i guess
[16:54] <imuser> Guys, I have Lubuntu 13.10 on an old desktop, and I like that it is faster than Ubuntu 12.04, BUT, I would like to download an older Adobe Flash Player being the online videos, like YouTube and Wimp.com don't work good. The reason I think the older version of flash will work is that I tried it with a puppy I had on a flash stick and it works with the older flash player. So, how would I get an older one installed on Lubuntu 13.10?
[16:54] <imuser> I mean the puppy was on a usb flash stick, sorry.
[16:55] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: you'll need it if your CPU is older
[16:55] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: you can use minitube to view youtube without flash :)
[16:56] <imuser> ya.. I really think that's the case. How do you do that?
[16:56] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: install it using software centre then run it
[16:57] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: or: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=89675
[17:00] <imuser> o.k. thanks guys
[17:01] <imuser> Is there a way to install an older version of Adobe Flashplayer too?
[17:03] <glitsj16> Left_Turn: that'll work, one alternative is using .. touch /path/to/new/empty/file
[17:04] <Left_Turn> oh thanks glitsj16
[17:05] <lucasrangit> when testing daily ISO images, is there a way to tell from within the environment what version is running or when it was created? i want to be able to differentiate. thanks.
[17:05] <imuser> Would the minitube let me watch other online streaming, such as wimp.com or hulu?
[17:08] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: i dnt believe so
[17:08] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: you need a non-sse2 flash plugin
[17:08] <imuser> what is that?
[17:10] <imuser> sorry    don't know linux too well yet.
[17:11] <jhutchins> imuser: I
[17:11] <TJ-> lucasrangit: On the ISO itself, ".disk/info" ... not sure about within the running environment
[17:12] <jhutchins> imuser: I'm pretty sure that flash player is a single binary file.  Figure out where it is and copy the binary from puppy to your Ubuntu installation.
[17:13] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: sse2 is not a linux specific thing
[17:13] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: its a feature in your CPU, or in your case, lacking
[17:13] <ActionPa1snip> imuser: so it would be a ting in Windows too
[17:13] <lucasrangit> TJ-: thanks! it turns out you can at least see that from within the live environment /cdrom/.disk/info
[17:14] <TJ-> lucasrangit: Yeah... I've loop-mounted the squashfs but can't see anything better
[17:14] <imuser> o.k.     sooooo    I download  the older flash player that I saw for the puppy, and then how do I copy it to my Lubuntu installation? I am from windows and don't know how to do this in Lubuntu. sorry
[17:15] <frew> does anyone know how I can do the monitor configuration command?  I don't have a menu due to my choice of window manager and gnome-control-center gives an error when I use t
[17:15] <TJ-> frew: "man xrandr"
[17:15] <venky_> I have a ubuntu based distro installation where I am unable to see HT.
[17:15] <whod> imuser: why  are u installing an older version of flash player? :) anyhow
[17:15] <venky_> Would any one know about enabling HT?
[17:15] <frew> TJ-: well I was hoping to use the gui
[17:16] <frew> TJ-: I've used it before and had it work, though this is the first time with this machine
[17:17] <imuser> whod, because viewing online video streaming doesn't work on my old desktop. It worked when I plugged in a puppy flash disk which I put an older flash player on
[17:18] <frew> ah, arandr works
[17:18] <frew> TJ-: thanks for the hint
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> imuser: not sure if you'll have any luck with hulu, but youtube-dl might work for wimp.com
[17:18] <imuser> what's youtube-dl?
[17:18] <whod> hm odd: not seen that :) have seen however. drm crap ..
[17:19] <sofdarkness> youtube-dl is very good video downloader
[17:20] <sofdarkness> to download a video with youtube-dl type this on terminal: youtube-dl link of video
[17:20] <ravi_> hi, im trying to send files over a bluetooth 3.0+hs +wifi dongle with obex,  but i only get slow transfer speeds (<80kByte/s), how can i get faster transfer speeds (>1 MByte/s) ?
[17:20] <imuser> so how do I copy the older flash I found online to my installation?
[17:21] <lobila> hello everyone, I'm using a youtube av downloader add-on on firefox. every time it finishes downloading the video, it goes on to create a file "aac.error.log"..the latter process jams the computer until it gets finished. and it's even worse when it doesn't. sometimes the file isn't created and the computer becomes unusable due to the jam.
[17:21] <lobila> can I get rid of the creation of this file?
[17:22] <sofdarkness> lobila, use youtube-dl to download videos of internet on Ubuntu
[17:22] <lobila> sofdarkness, I might have already installed it, but really forgot how to use it
[17:23] <sofdarkness> lobila, type this on terminal: youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuColajv5dE
[17:23] <sofdarkness> lobila, e.g. youtube-dl link_of_video
[17:24] <sofdarkness> lobila, http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/documentation.html
[17:25] <lobila> sofdarkness, thank you! it seems pretty easy..I'll try it :)
[17:25] <sofdarkness> lobila, :)
[17:27] <glitsj16> lobila: not to stop you from using youtube-dl, but what is the actual error in that aac.error.log?
[17:29] <lobila> glitsj16, the error is that it jams my computer every time it gets (or doesnt get) created. sometimes it takes a while and it doesnt get created at all, but the computer gets jammed
[17:32] <glitsj16> lobila: yes i understand, but is there any error reported in that file so you can try fixing it, or contact the add-on dev to report it
[17:32] <lobila> I've got another problem. when I use a particular wireless network, I cannot access freenode.
[17:32] <lobila> glitsj16, I never checked those files. maybe I should :)
[17:33] <lobila> glitsj16, it says this: "Error: For audio extraction form this video format, you need to install and configure FFmpeg (http://www.ffmpeg.org/download.html) from addon's settings."
[17:34] <lobila> not sure if I'm not mistaken..was ffmpeg the one that was replaced by another?
[17:34] <glitsj16> lobila: well you might just try to install what it expects, ffmpeg is in the regular repos
[17:35] <lobila> glitsj16, to my surprise, ffmpeg is already installed and newest version
[17:35] <glitsj16> lobila: did you configure the add-on as mentioned in the error?
[17:37] <lobila> glitsj16, I have no idea how to do it, and I don't even need AAC format..that's why I wanted to get rid of the error
[17:38] <lobila> I've got another problem. when I use a particular wireless network, I cannot access freenode.
[17:38] <lobila> is there a way to solve this?
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> !13.04
[17:40] <miguelangello> I installed itunes on ubuntu 12.04 LTS with wine but when i try to open the program there is a message "iTunes cannot run because some of its required files are missing. Please reinstall iTunes" somebody know the solution for it?
[17:41] <Brutus|> what is the location to find harddisks in the console? I found sdb1 / sdb2 / sdb5 but if they are mounted, where are they mounted to?
[17:41] <Brutus|> sdb1 = linux, sdb2 = extended, sdb5 = linux swap
[17:41] <jirido> j #lxde
[17:42] <lobila> glitsj16, thank you for all your help! maybe I go on to use simply youtube-dl..
[17:42] <glitsj16> lobila: any error in your irc client log?
[17:43] <TJ-> Brutus|: "mount" will show all currently mounted file-systems
[17:43] <lobila> glitsj16, where can I see it?
[17:44] <glitsj16> lobila: that'll depend on the irc client you use
[17:44] <lobila> I have xchat2
[17:44] <lobila> glitsj16, I have xchat2
[17:44] <miguelangello> I installed itunes on ubuntu 12.04 LTS with wine but when i try to open the program there is a message "iTunes cannot run because some of its required files are missing. Please reinstall iTunes" somebody know the solution for it?
[17:45] <fer755> Brutus i figure they are mounted on /media if not mounted on /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab tells
[17:45] <fer755> *where
[17:46] <glitsj16> lobila: never used it, but have a look around in ~/.xchat2
[17:48] <Brutus|> http://pastebin.com/bHrVaxeP
[17:48] <Brutus|> kind of fuzzy on it
[17:48] <lobila> glitsj16, I can't find it..maybe I try asking it at freenode channel?
[17:50] <glitsj16> lobila: that or an xchat channel, you can use !alis to search for channels
[17:51] <lobila> glitsj16, I am talking now on freenode channel about it..
[17:51] <cer> I need to design the plan of a room of my house, is there a good software to do so?
[17:52] <Brutus|> can someone take a look at the export of my fdisk / mtab / fstab
[17:52] <Brutus|> http://pastebin.com/bHrVaxeP
[17:52] <SonikkuAmerica> cer: Have you poked around in the Software Center
[17:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Brutus|: What do you need to know? /etc/mtab and /etc/fstab show auto-mount points and options
[17:55] <Brutus|> i need to know where my second disk is :P
[17:55] <Brutus|> wish to write data to it
[17:56] <Brutus|> looks like it's not mounted at all
[17:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Which "second disk" are you talking about?
[17:56] <Brutus|> sdb2
[17:56] <Brutus|> i think
[17:56] <Brutus|> got two disks in that system but can only find the first
[17:57] <cer> SonikkuAmerica: mmmm .... do not even know what to look for! I found sweethome, but it seems to be good only if you already have a a plan .... and funiture editing does not seem to work :(
[17:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Brutus|: Then [ sudo mkdir -p /mnt/disk && sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/disk ] in terminal
[17:58] <Brutus|> you must specify the filesystem type
[17:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Brutus|: Do you know what it is? extX, NTFS, FAT32 (vFAT), ...?
[18:00] <Brutus|> cer: www.floorplanner.com might be helpfull? it's online and it looks like there is a free version
[18:00] <Brutus|> extended
[18:00] <Brutus|> SonikkuAmerica: ext
[18:00] <TJ-> Brutus|: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk"
[18:00] <TJ-> Brutus|: "extended" is another partition table, not a file-system, so it is not possible to mount sdb2
[18:01] <Brutus|> ohhhh
[18:01] <Brutus|> sdb1 worked
[18:01] <cer> Brutus|: thanks I need something I can use offline, line connection is poor.
[18:01] <TJ-> Brutus|: be aware that the file-system will probably need root (sudo) permissions to write to, depending on the user ownership of directories and files within it
[18:02] <Brutus|> TJ-: understood. seems like there is an old installation on that disk
[18:02] <Brutus|> will first explore and find a way to wipe it
[18:03] <TJ-> Brutus|: If you want to delete the entire file-system, you can simply reformat it. You'd first umount it "sudo umount /mnt/disk" and then reformat it "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1"
[18:03] <Pinkamen1_D> how do you create a live usb from ubuntu? The startup disk creator, when booted into, does not seem to have a 'start ubuntu without installing' option.
[18:03] <Brutus|> it's busy :S
[18:04] <Brutus|> umount: /mnt/disk: device is busy.
[18:04] <gordonjcp> Pinkamen1_D: dd the image to a USB stick
[18:04] <TJ-> Brutus|: probably because you've either got a file or directory open inside it
[18:04] <Brutus|> i checked the disk but closed that already
[18:05] <TJ-> Brutus|: did you "cd" into "/mnt/disk/" ?
[18:05] <Brutus|> no i checked with filezilla
[18:05] <Brutus|> but closed the program
[18:06] <Brutus|> TJ-: just had to wait
[18:06] <Brutus|> TJ-: it's working now :)
[18:06] <TJ-> Brutus|: OK :)
[18:07] <Brutus|> will this now automatically mount after sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk
[18:07] <linuxearth> how can i use a password in the external hard drive which i have to use in linux as well as in windows (password because it becomes secured even when it goes in someone else's hands)
[18:07] <TJ-> Brutus|: No, you'd need to add a line to "/etc/fstab" to have a file-system automount
[18:10] <TJ-> Brutus|: If you've reformatted /dev/sdb1 you can add it to "/etc/fstab" like this: "  echo "UUID=$(blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sdb1) /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2" | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab  "
[18:13] <Brutus|> TJ-: I think I got it. I added [ /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2 ] to the file
[18:13] <Brutus|> oh with uuid is also possible
[18:13] <cer> Any clue Brutus| SonikkuAmerica?
[18:14] <TJ-> Brutus|: better with the UUID since the device name can change, whereas as long as you don't reformat the file-system, the UUID will remain constant
[18:15] <Brutus|> TJ-: command doesn't work
[18:15] <Brutus|> cer: no idea, sorry man.
[18:15] <cer> Brutus|: thank you !
[18:15] <Brutus|> when I do the command it just tells me >
[18:15] <TJ-> Brutus|:  are you missing a "
[18:16] <Brutus|> did copy/paste
[18:16] <Brutus|> echo "UUID=$(blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sdb1) /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2" | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab  "
[18:16] <TJ-> The > usually indicates you've got unmatched quote marks... you've either missed 1, or got  1 too many
[18:16] <TJ-> Brutus|: don't type the outer quote marks... I use those to enclose the entire command separate from my own comments
[18:16] <Brutus|> TJ-: removed the last one
[18:17] <TJ-> Brutus|: That'll be the one :)
[18:17] <Brutus|> TJ-: UUID= /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2
[18:17] <Brutus|> that line got added
[18:17] <Brutus|> shouldn't there be a number behind it?
[18:18] <Brutus|> TJ-: this is another disk I got: UUID=9dea7ccb-4772-460d-bae6-2632cf7200b9 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[18:19] <Brutus|> TJ-: mount: special device UUID= does not exist
[18:20] <TJ-> Brutus|: Yes, there should be... have you deleted sdb1 ?
[18:20] <Brutus|> no I didn't delete it
[18:21] <TJ-> Brutus|: You'll need to remove that line from fstab , I' ve just realised I left off a vital "sudo" call !
[18:21] <zerowaitstate> Brutus: the whole point of the UUID thing is so a particular device always gets mounted the same way regardless of its position on the bus.
[18:21] <Brutus|> TJ-: it's mounted to /mnt/disk
[18:21] <miguelangello> what app could i use on ubuntu like hyperterminal ?
[18:21] <TJ-> Brutus|: echo "UUID=$(sudo blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sdb1) /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2" | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[18:23] <Brutus|> TJ-:  that seems to work a lot better :)
[18:23] <Brutus|> UUID=59fa6025-942c-4b1b-bec4-78be19c5e102 /mnt/disk ext4 defaults 0 2
[18:23] <TJ-> Brutus|: You can delete the 'bad' line with "sudo sed -i ',UUID= /mnt/disk ext4,d' /etc/fstab  "
[18:23] <Brutus|> TJ-: got it working :)
[18:23] <TJ-> Brutus|: good :)
[18:23] <Brutus|> mount -a doesn't give any errors, going for a reboot on that system
[18:25] <djanatan> Is the gaming performance in Unity better now? When I tried it last year, it was garbage.
[18:26] <k1l_> djanatan: everything is wonderfull now. or do you have a specific question?
[18:27] <djanatan> putting my toes in the water before I jump back in is all
[18:28] <godmachine81> i'm a pretty experienced linux user, but not so much with ubuntu.  i just upgraded a distro manually but now everytime i try to add new PPA's they automatically use the release name from the previous version installed
[18:28] <godmachine81> my question is how to configure the system so that all new ppa's will use saucy instead of raring
[18:28] <godmachine81> other than manually changing them in the .list files myself
[18:29] <k1l_> godmachine81: what does "updated manually" mean?
[18:30] <Brutus|> TJ-: thank you it's working. Now updating my system
[18:30] <dgarstang1> Anyone know if cloud-init supports GCE yet?
[18:30] <lca_13> dgarstang1, hey
[18:31] <godmachine81> k1l_: manually meaning i have modified my own sources.list and made configuration changes by hand ( i have forked an ubuntu based distro that used raring)
[18:31] <dgarstang1> lca_13: yo
[18:31] <miguelangello> what app can i use to sync my ipod nano on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:31] <godmachine81> k1l_: i really just to know how to fix whatever config the apt-add-ppa uses and change it to add the saucy sources instead of raring
[18:32] <RyuKojiro> Quick question, does the livecd have hdparm on it?
[18:33] <Xuisce> hi all
[18:33] <Guest68338> ciao
[18:34] <Guest68338> !list
[18:34] <dgarstang1> Seems like Ubuntu's cloud-init doesn't support Google Compute yet. :(
[18:34] <TJ-> RyuKojiro: Yes
[18:34] <Guest68338> ubuntu
[18:34] <RyuKojiro> TJ-: Awesome, thanks
[18:37] <lca_13> can anyone give me some helpful links on setting up openstack
[18:38] <Guest5512> what is this?
[18:39] <genii> Guest5512: You've arrived in the Ubuntu Linux support channel.
[18:39] <Guest5512> Thanks
[18:40] <lca_13> openstack anyone ?
[18:42] <Pici> lca_13: You'd probably have better luck asking in #openstack and/or #ubuntu-server
[18:44] <miguelangello> I have a usb to serial adapter and i wanna know if it works on ubuntu 12.04, how could i do it ?
[18:45] <lca_13> Pici: thanks
[18:47] <shahan1322f> whats the best way to test your internet connection speed in linux?
[18:48] <glitsj16> godmachine81: have you checked if there are still references to raring in /etc/apt/apt.conf? or tried to set your default release name there?
[18:49] <godmachine81> glitsj16: grep -ir 'raring' /etc   returns nothing at all
[18:50] <godmachine81> what file does the default release name get set in?  i have a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/  directory that has several different .confs starting with 10-  as example
[18:51] <glitsj16> godmachine81: well, try setting it explicitly to saucy in /etc/apt/apt.conf, something like .. APT::Default-Release "saucy";
[18:53] <godmachine81> glitsj16: so i need to create the /etc/apt.conf file?  or shouldn't i be using the file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/   ?
[18:53] <glitsj16> godmachine81: don't know where the add-apt-repository command looks for that info
[18:54] <proch> ciao
[18:54] <glitsj16> godmachine81: i'd try to put it in /etc/apt/apt.conf, which might be an empty file to begin with
[18:54] <godmachine81> glitsj16: its not even a file to begin with
[18:55] <glitsj16> godmachine81: create it to test
[18:59] <Larry_> SOS UKRAINE
[19:01] <y4h0_> join #java
[19:01] <genii> Larry_: This is the Ubuntu Linux support channel. You may have wanted ##politics channel instead.
[19:02] <genii> Larry_: Unless of course, you're in the Ukraine but your problem is related to your Ubuntu :)
[19:05] <pieces029> Does anyone have recommendations for an http proxy client similar to Fiddler that will work on Ubunut?
[19:06] <junior_> oiiiiiii
[19:10] <genii> pieces029: The simplest thing I can think of offhand is just the Server Spy add-on for Firefox which can show you all the headers etc. Can't twiddle with it then send it back on though. Squid may have some of this type of facility.
[19:10] <pieces029> genii, I'm trying to debug a mobile phone so that unfortunately won't work.  Thanks for the idea though.
[19:11] <kbrosnan> genii: tamper data
[19:12] <dgarstang1> i no like cloud-init :(
[19:12] <whodares> hi
[19:12] <runnyspot> pieces029: mitmproxy or owasp zap
[19:13] <pieces029> runnyspot, Ok, I'll check those out.  Thanks!
[19:14] <charly_> hi, ubuntu is hanging at boot. running mac os under virtualbox. fresh install loads fine, after initializing android environment, restart hangs. happened twice with fresh installs. this problem has never occured before. initialized environment same way multiple times. any suggestions?
[19:18] <genii> charly_: If this is Ubuntu touch, then i suggest to ask in #ubuntu-touch ... if it's something like regular Ubuntu locking up while loading Eclipse or Android components for development, then this is still the right channel
[19:19] <sudonoob> Hi All, I was on last night and didnt resolve my issues after a number of tries.  How to I downgrade to another version of 13.10 (or) use something other than unity?
[19:23] <rcw2> using firebug in firefox is making firefox use 50% of cpu.  how can i troubleshoot this best
[19:24] <kbrosnan> make sure you are using the most up to date version of the extension.
[19:24] <Xuisce> hi kbrosnan
[19:24] <rcw2> kbrosnan, to me?
[19:24] <kbrosnan> yes, then if you are report it using their process. http://getfirebug.com/community
[19:25] <genii> sudonoob: If you give details of your original problem again to the channel, someone may try to continue assisting. Alternately, you could for the moment install a different desktop like Xubuntu or Lubuntu by doing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop    (or lubuntu-desktop)
[19:27] <sudonoob> genii: thanks.  my original problem is no dash. I tried everything suggested including removing unity, resetting it and following all suggestions i.e. install compiz etc
[19:28] <kbrosnan> rcw2: in addtion it can make sense to have a developer profile where you have heavy extensions such as Firebug, you can run mutiple instances of firefox using the -P and -no-remote commands. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options
[19:29] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  you up and about bro?
[19:30] <dgarstang1> omg. the cloud-init docs are terrible
[19:31] <rcw2> kbrosnan, actually, its using that much cpu without firebug as well.  is there a way to load firefox free of addons
[19:31] <rcw2> ah -safe-mode
[19:33] <iron> i cant get a grub screen after installing ubuntu
[19:34] <iron> can someone help, it says input signal out of range
[19:34] <meme> I am running a server on EC2 and I am trying to get a subdomain to work. I've modified my apache config to point dashboard2.mvp-interactive.com to /var/www/dashboardv2 but for some reason it keeps looking for /var/www - any ideas? here is the pastebin - http://pastebin.com/0SEzFCen  -- the main DNS is hosted with go GoDaddy and dashboardv2.mvp-interactive.com points to my linux server at
[19:34] <meme> 50.19.234.248
[19:35] <iron> hello?
[19:36] <iron> am i on?  can you see what i'm typing?
[19:36] <sh0t> iron, yes
[19:36] <iron> ok
[19:37] <iron> i think my monitor or gpu does not support the grub that was installed.
[19:37] <compdoc> cant see it boot?
[19:39] <iron> i dont see the grub loader so I cant choose between windows or ubuntu
[19:41] <Pici> iron: It isn't displayed unless you hold down the shift key at boot.
[19:42] <iron> oh so it has changed?
[19:42] <Pici> Quite a few releases ago iirc.
[19:44] <sudonoob> genii: I have installed xubuntu now and still no dash? What shall i do? Its still the same background as 13.1
[19:45] <Guest65115> hai
[19:45] <iron> still does not show when holding down shift
[19:45] <iron> monitor says change to 1280x1024 60hz.  how do i do this?
[19:46] <genii> sudonoob: I don't believe Xubuntu comes with a dash. Did you select from login screen the Xubuntu/XFCE session or are you still going to the old one?
[19:47] <MarbolanGos> e
[19:47] <JoshuaP> how would i correct bad sectors on a hard drive?
[19:47] <iron> cant see grub screen.  help
[19:47] <Dureiken> Hi there, could someone help me to make a scrypt file which is taking a part of his command into another file ? if it's possible ? Thanks a lot
[19:47] <compdoc> JoshuaP, cant
[19:47] <compdoc> need a new drive
[19:48] <JoshuaP> compdoc: what, exactly, makes a bad sector?
[19:49] <compdoc> JoshuaP, means its failing. And its a better way to die than just stopping dead. Means you can get most of your files
[19:50] <Xuisce> hi all
[19:53] <charly_> hi, ubuntu is hanging at boot. running mac os under virtualbox. fresh install loads fine, after initializing android environment, restart hangs. happened twice with fresh installs. this problem has never occured before. initialized environment same way multiple times. any suggestions?
[19:53] <charly_> sometimes reboots to tty1
[19:55] <Beer_Man> Where can I report 14.04 bugs that apport hook does not pick up?
[19:55] <fer755> charly_hi u are running 8,1 kernel ?
[19:55] <silidan> anyone got experience with bluetooth under ubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu 12.04?
[19:56] <jazzme> hello, after running the ubuntu updates via a vnc session, I can no longer access the ubuntu session where vnc server is running.  All I get is a black screen.  Any ideas please?
[19:57] <miguelangello> [  579.193318] pl2303: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver
[19:57] <miguelangello>  this line means my driver is working?
[19:58] <silidan> hi, i have 2 usb bluetooth 3.0 + hs dongles here and want to transfer files with them using ubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu 12.04 so far the transfer works but only quite slow (<200 kByte/s), i know that these devices work with (>1MByte/s) with win7, so what should i configure where to get the same speed?
[20:00] <iron> cant get grub screen to show up.  cant see what os to choose from
[20:01] <iron> can someone help me?
[20:01] <iron> if not where is the real help channel for ubuntu
[20:01] <charly_> 8,1 kernel for what
[20:02] <dstar69> hi - installed 12.04 and it crashed on updating, now i have gnu grub screen that gives me options none of which work. Can anyone hold my hand and tell me what to do before I reinstall altogether?
[20:02] <iron> i get no grub screen
[20:03] <fer755> charly_ are u running 8.1 kernel?
[20:03] <fer755> charly_ on ubuntu
[20:04] <charly_> running ubuntu 12.04 under virtualbox
[20:05] <piotr__> witam serdecznie
[20:05] <kingfisher64> hello, enjoyed my 1st week using Ubuntu. Is there a linux equilivant of wampserver (lamp stack)?
[20:05] <iron> maybe i'll try a different install of linux.  ubuntu cant give me a grub screen to choose what os i want.
[20:06] <fer755> charly_ the last 2 numbers on command uname -r are 8.1
[20:06] <Dureiken> Hi there, could someone help me to make a scrypt file which is taking a part of his command into another file ? if it's possible ? Thanks a lot
[20:06] <iron> cant seem to find anyone that can help with my issue either
[20:06] <dgarstang1> Cloud-init... GCE.... Anyone?
[20:06] <piotr__> chciałbym poradzic się uzytkowników ubuntu w sprawie naprawienia błędu aktualizacji
[20:07] <fer755> Iron yes
[20:07] <iron> i dont get a grub screen to choose what os i want to run
[20:07] <piotr__> wykryto u mnie raport błędu
[20:07] <dstar69> hi - installed 12.04 and it crashed on updating, now i have gnu grub screen that gives me options none of which work. Do I just reinstall altogether?
[20:09] <delac> anyone around who has managed to get Canon mg3500 series drivers to work on 12.04?
[20:09] <charly_> 3.8.0-29-generic
[20:10] <miguelangello> How can i start the teamviewer daemon? because i installed it but dosnt work it says start daemon before
[20:10] <fer755> charly_ i had an issue now resolved under 12.8.1 kernel i upgrade kernel now . the issue are whit vbox
[20:11] <maclinux123> Hello
[20:12] <bekks> fer755: Which issues?
[20:13] <fer755> bekks 2d and 3d accel and no nvidia on kernel img
[20:13] <miguelangello> How can i start the teamviewer daemon? because i installed it but dosnt work it says start daemon before
[20:13] <bekks> fer755: What does "2d and 3d accel and no nvidia on kernel img" mean, please?
[20:14] <fer755> virtualbox 2d and 3d accel enabled and missing kernel module nvidia. on kernel img file
[20:15] <fer755> but im not using ubuntu the kernels are differs
[20:15] <bekks> fer755: The nvidia module is always missing since it is separated from the kernel.
[20:15] <fer755> bekks sure are on img file
[20:15] <charly_> never had the issue before. installed/utilized ubuntu previously. same programming.
[20:16] <fer755> bekks there are a kernel and a kernel img file too , in that are the modules
[20:16] <bekks> fer755: the nvidia module is never part of the kernel, since it is a binary blob which will not be included in the kernel officially. It is a 3rd party module.
[20:17] <bekks> fer755: However - do you talk about the kernel in your virtualbox guest?
[20:17] <fer755> bekks and where is located?
[20:17] <bekks> fer755: Where is what located?
[20:18] <fer755> bekks i miss the point
[20:18] <fer755> bekks no
[20:19] <dstar69> hi - installed 12.04 and it crashed on updating, now i have gnu grub screen that gives me options none of which work. Do I just reinstall altogether?
[20:19] <iron> how can i get the grub screen to show up so i can choose my OS?
[20:19] <fer755> bekks no matters , i have an issue and if u dont understant np. there is not applicable to this case
[20:19] <bekks> fer755: If you are not talking about a kernel in your virtualbox, and you are not talking about issues compiling the virtualbox kernel modules - how is that related to virtualbox then? :)
[20:19] <DJones> iron: It should just be a case of tapping the left shift key during boot
[20:19] <bekks> fer755: Ok, we just rest that case :)
[20:19] <fer755> bekks i miss the point of the whole thing
[20:20] <iron> i have and i get nothing. just blank screen. and monitor says signal out of range
[20:20] <fer755> bekks there are a kernel host to run vbox no?
[20:21] <bekks> fer755: There is no special kernel that is needed to run vbox, no.
[20:21] <fer755> bekks there are a module that kernel have to read. no?
[20:21] <bazhang> fer755, you should try in #vbox
[20:21] <fer755> i resolved that issue now
[20:23] <dgarstang1> *sigh* Cloud-init latest in experimental is supposed to support GCE. I think not. :(
[20:24] <Boreeas> Can someone explain to me the compile error here/how I can fix it: http://pastebin.com/gXnC0B6n?
[20:26] <iron> i think my monitor or gpu dont support the grub loader screen.  can someone help?
[20:27] <dstar69> ah kernel panic... a first for me (only been doing the linux thing for 10 days or so...) (reinstalled linux mint three times, now on second time install of ubuntu. didn't like vista, but at least i didn't need to reinstall it every second day!)
[20:29] <wolfzrat> is there an ubuntu 14.04 utilty version prerelease out to try out?
[20:30] <genii> "utility version" ?
[20:30] <Dureiken> Hi there, could someone help me to make a scrypt file which is taking a part of his command into another file ? if it's possible ? Thanks a lot
[20:31] <bazhang> wolfzrat, 14.04 questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[20:32] <bazhang> Dureiken, for litecoin?
[20:32] <wolfzrat> sry didnt know =/
[20:33] <Dureiken> bazhang : for ubuntu
[20:33] <bazhang> Dureiken, scrypt for what please
[20:33] <dstar69> reinstalling...
[20:33]  * dstar69 sigh
[20:33] <Dureiken> for mining yes
[20:33] <dstar69> later
[20:33] <wolfzrat> thank you bazhang
[20:33] <wolfzrat> for redirecting me
[20:34] <JoshuaP> compdoc: can i zero out the spots and continue on?
[20:35] <squashpoint0h> asdf
[20:45] <Boreeas> Can someone explain to me the compile error here/how I can fix it: http://pastebin.com/gXnC0B6n?
[20:46] <sudonoob> Finally sorted my no dash issue... Thanks for the help/ suggestions. Uninstalled Unity using sudo purge and installed xubuntu-desktop. What are the major differences?
[20:46] <silidan> hi, im using the bluez package on ubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 13.10, i got 2 usb bluetooth 3.0 + hs wifi combo dongles and i can transfer files between 2 machines with them. its just very slow (<200kByte/s) how do i need to configure the wifi /bluetooth part for higher speeds? (in win 7 these 2 dongles achieve >1 MByte/s)
[20:48] <conroe> whats the package name for the default terminal in lightdm/saucy?
[20:50] <delac> anyone around who has managed to get Canon mg3500 series drivers to work on 12.04?
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> conroe  gnome-terminal
[20:55] <conroe> so lightdm only runs on top of gnome?
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> conroe  lightdm is the login menu, not sure what you want or mean
[20:57] <conroe> i thought that was unity?
[20:57] <cnodell> Is there a way to find out what applications are kept current on LTS releases? I noticed Firefox was kept current and am wondering what other apps are treated the same!
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> conroe  no, unity is a compiz shell over gnome3
[20:57] <conroe> ah
[20:58] <cnodell> I thought that a search of Ubuntu's LTS updates/backports repositories might be right but want to be sure...
[21:00] <vbgunz> anyone know of a task or todo manager that's simple, but you can add a time to the task say 20 minutes? so this way, an alarm or reminder to stop doing the task pops up?
[21:00] <cnodell> Anyone have a suggestion?
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> cnodell  what was your question?
[21:01] <conroe> MonkeyDust, package name for that upper-right menu?
[21:01] <conroe> panel?
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> conroe  gnome-panel
[21:03] <conroe> hmm. i did install it but its seems I have to launch it manually
[21:03] <melter> if i run "apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork", why does "apachectl -V" show the MPM as "event" and not "prefork"?
[21:04] <cnodell> Is there a way to find out what applications are kept current on LTS releases? I noticed Firefox was kept current and am wondering what other apps are treated the same!
[21:04] <Jensor> Hello, I'm really new to Linux and I'm exploring my way around. I have on my system a couple of kernel-version directory's, can I just remove them or will it stop me from booting up again (or will some programs depend on that "older" kernel version folder)? Any information where I can learn/read more about this? Thanks in advance.
[21:05] <Ben64> cnodell: no real way to check, but firefox is likely the only thing
[21:06] <k1l_> Jensor: folders? if you want to remove old kernels remove the old kernel packages
[21:06] <cnodell> thanks!
[21:07] <Jensor> k1l_, I probably mistyped, the items under /usr/src/*
[21:07] <cnodell> Another Question: How reliable are upgrades from one version of Ubuntu to the next? Would removing, adding and changing applications affect chances of success?
[21:08] <Ben64> Jensor: the general rule is - don't delete anything not in your home directory
[21:08] <[[a]> hello, my mouse right-click is not working anymore; any help plz
[21:08] <k1l_> Jensor: they get removed, when you  remove the old unused packages.
[21:09] <Jensor> Ben64, I don't really want to delete them, rather know what they do or what their use is.
[21:09] <Ben64> cnodell: ppa's are more likely to cause issues, standard ubuntu repositories and packages should upgrade without much problem
[21:09] <k1l_> Jensor: i suggest not to fiddle behind the back of the package system. use the official ubuntu package system where you can
[21:09] <cnodell> Thanks again!
[21:09] <Jensor> k1l_, oke thanks for the info.
[21:10] <k1l_> Jensor: if you remove the linux-image-.... and linux-header-.... package you will notice, that the folder will be deleted
[21:10] <Jensor> k1l_ and so will the boot entry I'm guessing?
[21:11] <k1l_> yes
[21:11] <Jensor> thanks
[21:11] <cnodell> I am trying to decide on a distro recommendation for a friend new to linux. Mint and Ubuntu were forerunners. When I looked up upgrades for Mint their documentation suggested always doing fresh installs and data backups. Kind of surprised me. With Mint being based on Ubuntu I began wondering if Ubuntu was also so finiky regarding upgrades.
[21:11] <k1l_> cnodell: upgrades are fine. but backups are always suggested just for murphys law
[21:12] <k1l_> (which is: murphy will know when you dont have backups and will sabotage your system ;p )
[21:12] <genii> cnodell: It is always recommended to back up your data of course. But upgrades are fairly painless.
[21:13] <Ben64> cnodell: one thing you could do is use the LTS releases, only have to upgrade versions once every 2 years, instead of every 6 months
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> cnodell  and if you don't like upgrading, use LTS's
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  was fester :)
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> faster*
[21:16] <phatso> I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu in vbox but after I go through the partition disk menu and try installing the base system it keep throwing me back to the partition disk menu even though I chose to commit all changes - http://oi61.tinypic.com/3162o43.jpg
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> phatso  i had that issue with debian on vbox, it was solved by using one partition only (everything in /)
[21:18] <phatso> MonkeyDust: I have / mounted on /dev/sda and swap on /dev/sda5
[21:22] <p30arena> hey anyone got the DVI problem?
[21:23] <k1l_> p30arena: which dvi problem?
[21:23] <p30arena> when I try to login with mu user, what I see is a black screen, saying some bullshit about DVI and returning me to the login screen
[21:23] <p30arena> the funny thing is that when I login with Guest, everything goes well
[21:23] <k1l_> p30arena: see .xsession-errors in the users home for errors
[21:25] <p30arena> k1|_: the error is nonsense, the xorg server is bragging about that it can't find the monitor, and some problems with the dvi, I don't have access to my ubuntu system, so I can't be specific right now
[21:26] <k1l_> p30arena: well, if it works in guest mode it is some user specific setting that doesnt work. so getting that errormessage would guide to the solution
[21:27] <k1l_> p30arena: but there is not such thing like "the dvi problem". so get the specific details and we will see
[21:27] <p30arena> k1|_: yea exactly, but what I don't realize, is why it should get corrupted, I just use it regularly, last time I installed VBox and did nothing else :)) confused confused confused… :D
[21:44] <jKlaus> hey all
[21:44] <hewhomust> hi
[21:44] <jKlaus> So.. what exactly is Ubuntu TV?
[21:45] <jKlaus> n/m just found the channel :P
[21:48] <zaitzev> I'm having an issue with a simple bash script I just made, and I can't see what I'm doing wrong. All the paths exist. When I run it, I just get a "Terminated" output and it hasn't launched. http://pastie.org/8676611
[21:51] <imuser> Lubuntu people are scarce over there. S0, guys, can I through some things overboard to make Lubuntu 13.10 lighter. My computer is old. Can I uninstall in the software center some games or something that I don't use?
[21:52] <imuser> "throw" sorry about spelling
[21:53] <silidan1> hi, im using the bluez package on ubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 13.10, i got 2 usb bluetooth 3.0 + hs wifi combo dongles and i can transfer files between 2 machines with them. its just very slow (<200kByte/s) how do i need to configure the wifi /bluetooth part for higher speeds? (in win 7 these 2 dongles achieve >1 MByte/s)
[21:55] <imuser> my memory is like 400 something mb. What can you do with that?
[21:57] <zerowaitstate> imuser: not run ubuntu desktop. ubuntu's bloat is in the gui
[21:57] <zerowaitstate> try using mint or something
[21:58] <zerowaitstate> if you don't need the ui, ubuntu server is fairly lean
[21:58] <imuser> zerowaitstate, I have Lubuntu 13.10.... is that the ubuntu desktop? don't know much about linux here.
[21:59] <zerowaitstate> in linux you have a choice of desktop environments. some are very lean on resources and some hog memory. ubuntu favors the GNOME desktop, which uses a lot of RAM
[21:59] <zerowaitstate> I am not familiar with Lubuntu though
[21:59] <zerowaitstate> ah lxde
[21:59] <phil-ns> xfce is very lean
[21:59] <zerowaitstate> so, you have already cut out a lot of the GNOME cruft
[21:59] <imuser> can I change desktop environments make it leaner and meaner?
[21:59] <phil-ns> I just ripped all the cruft :)
[21:59] <zerowaitstate> imsuer, lxde is pretty lean as it is
[22:01] <zerowaitstate> imuser: whats using your ram right now?
[22:01] <saiarcot895> imuser: Lubuntu is really meant for low-RAM systems, so you can't get too much lower
[22:02] <zerowaitstate> yeah, I was just mentioning that. I realized that Lubuntu was the LXDE flavor
[22:07] <hewhomust> crunchbang lol
[22:08] <zerowaitstate> imuser: you are riding pretty close to the minimum requirements for lubuntu. You may take a look at PuppyLinux.
[22:09] <zerowaitstate> imuser: basically, once you get down to RAM sizes that small, you have to start pulling features out to stay within the RAM footprint
[22:10] <zerowaitstate> imuser: archlinux is another, but not for the faint of heart
[22:15] <miles_> hello
[22:15] <miles_> hello
[22:15] <miles_> fgdsgf
[22:15] <miles_> gsfd
[22:15] <miles_> gfsd
[22:15] <FloodBot1> miles_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:15] <miles_> gsd
[22:15] <miles_> gsd
[22:15] <imuser> thanks, guys, I was talking over in the Lubuntu channel
[22:15] <zerowaitstate> what did you find out?
[22:15] <zerowaitstate> curious
[22:16] <imuser> so, if I put Puppy on a disk, how would I keep it updated or clean install another one?
[22:18] <imuser> and what if I want to save what I do on my usb flashdrive I put puppy on, so I can use it live?
[22:19] <zerowaitstate> http://puppylinux.org/main/Puppy430-tutorial-English.pdf
[22:19] <imuser> thanks!
[22:19] <ikonia> err thats for puppy
[22:19] <k1l_> imuser: for puppy issues please ask the puppy support
[22:20] <imuser> ya  thanks  kll
[22:20] <ikonia> I don't think he wants puppy support, but help given was for puppy
[22:20] <zerowaitstate> sorry about that guys, should have msged
[22:20] <ikonia> oh it is puppy
[22:20] <ikonia> sorry, my fault
[22:21] <zerowaitstate> unless someone wants to start a Puppy-like Ubuntu, maybe Poobuntu?
[22:21] <ikonia> it already exists and is a shambles, hence why it's a poor release
[22:21] <bekks> zerowaitstate: Thats an unofficial spin off, and not supported in here, too.
[22:23] <The_Woodsman> i've got some files on my laptop i want to get on my desktop, and i also want to learn how to use sftp. how do i find out all the parameters and stuff i need to connect to my desktop from my laptop using sftp?
[22:23] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: scp files username@remotehost:/new/location
[22:23] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: man scp or sftp will give you information on the parameters
[22:24] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: yeah okay so i looked up my ip address and i know the user names and passwords and everything, but i was not able to connect to my desktop - is the ip address not the remotehost
[22:24] <ikonia> the ip address is an acceptable remote host
[22:25] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: so for whatever reason i could not connect using the ip address, even though i opened the SFTP port
[22:25] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: and the sftp port, does scp work on that port also?
[22:25] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: could be many reasons, show me the command you are using
[22:25] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: sure, one sec
[22:26] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: scp "testfile" username@ipaddress   - i did not give it a path after that so maybe that is why it's messed up
[22:27] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: yes, you did not use the example I gave you
[22:31] <PinnacleDawn> Hey
[22:32] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: the connection timed out when i used  scp "testfile" username@ipaddress:C/  - did i screw up the syntax or is there possibly a deeper issue
[22:33] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: there is no such thing as c:\ on a windows host
[22:33] <ikonia> sorry on a linux host
[22:33] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: are you trying to move files from linux to a windows host ?
[22:33] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: yes
[22:33] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: my laptop is on ubuntu, my desktop is on windows
[22:33] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: ok, so you'll need to use sftp
[22:34] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: sftp from the linux laptop to the windows desktop, correct ?
[22:34] <ikonia> as in from the linux machine -> files -> windows machine
[22:34] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: correct
[22:34] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: are you running an sftp server on the windows host ?
[22:36] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: so now i'm using sftp username@ipaddress which is what it looks like the ubuntu website's documentation is saying to do, but the connection still times out
[22:37] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: please try to pay attention to what is being asked of you
[22:37] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: are you running an sftp server on the windows desktop ?
[22:38] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: ah sorry i missed that message. i need to change the color scheme on this IRC client, i'm colorblind to the response text. no, i am not. i didn't know that was necessary, i thought i could just open the port and connect in whenever
[22:39] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: ok, so if you are not running an sftp server on the windows host, what do you expect the linux machine to actually connect to
[22:39] <ikonia> The_Woodsman: opening a port is great, but if nothing is running/listening on that port, there is nothing for the client to connect to
[22:39] <The_Woodsman> ikonia: okay thanks for the help, i'll see if i can figure that part out without bothering you haha
[22:44] <alp> Hi, I'm in need of help on bluetooth connectivity
[22:48] <siren_face2000> Hi!
[22:48] <siren_face2000> I need some help figuring out something
[22:49] <bmccoy11> Help! I just installed ubuntu using the Windows installer, rebooted, and it worked, but when I rebooted again, it's stuck at "initramfs"!
[22:50] <siren_face2000> I've already installed Ubuntu to my external drive, but I can't figure out how to get it to boot
[22:50] <bmccoy11> It's stuck at the busybox shell/ initramfs
[22:50] <siren_face2000> I know I have to figure out what I need to change in my BIOS so that it boots.
[22:51] <bmccoy11> My graphics card is a AMD Radeon X1250
[22:51] <anonymous_> helloo
[22:51] <anonymous_> any1 there?
[22:52] <bmccoy11> Anyone?
 use grub
[22:52] <ikonia> saying anyone is pointless
[22:52] <bmccoy11> I'm not sure if Windows 8 is the problem.
[22:52] <bmccoy11> I'm using legacy BIOS.
[22:53] <ikonia> why would windows 8 have any impact on your ubuntu install ?
[22:53] <bmccoy11> Not sure.
[22:53] <bmccoy11> Just a n00b.
[22:53] <bmccoy11> Is it a graphics card driver problem?
[22:54] <dupingping86> Hello
[22:54] <glitsj16> siren_face2000: have you set your BIOS boot order to prioritize booting from external USB HDD?
[22:54] <dupingping86> How to use grub with windows 8?
[22:54] <whod> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/  will work too
[22:55] <whod> bios option already thought u tried :)
[22:55] <dupingping86> okok!
[22:55] <ikonia> dupingping86: same way as any other windows install
[22:55] <ikonia> there is no need for "supergrubdisk" that canse actually cause problems as the grub versin may not be the same as the ubuntu one
[22:56] <dupingping86> ikonia: how?
[22:56] <whod> it doesnt cause probs if just use it to load the .lst... from the eternal drive
[22:56] <ikonia> dupingping86: how what ?
[22:56] <whod> and at 7mb :) download D:
[22:56] <ikonia> whod of course it can
[22:56] <dupingping86> detail comments for grub with windows 8
[22:56] <whod> how? when zero changes to be made with it. u'd wait til boot into os, then fix there
[22:57] <ikonia> what's wrong with just using the ubuntu media you installed with
[22:57] <aaronfeng> i'm trying to use cloudinit in aws vpc, it doesn't seem to work, but it works fine in ec2-classic.  i came across this post: http://luhman.org/blog/2013/03/16/getting-ubuntu-cloud-init-work-amazon-aws-vpc however that didn't work for me either
[22:57] <ikonia> dupingping86: what's the actual problem you are having ?
[22:57] <bmccoy11> uhm
[22:57] <k1l_> !bootrepair | dupingping86
[22:57] <ikonia> aaronfeng: "it doesn't work" isn't really sometihng you can expec tot get help with as that explains nothing
[22:58] <k1l_> dupingping86: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:58] <SonikkuAmerica> lol, someone in #u is yammering about "eternal" (external) HDDs
[22:58]  * bmccoy11 yawns
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> !boot-repair
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Not even once.
[22:59] <aaronfeng> ikonia: well, it didn't do the install, i want to know if cloudinit is expected to work within vpc.  according to that post which referenced this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/615545
[22:59] <ikonia> aaronfeng: didn't do the install - you need to give details
[23:00] <ikonia> aaronfeng: that's like me saying "fix it" as a solution
[23:01] <bmccoy11> ?
[23:02] <bmccoy11> I installed Ubuntu, rebooted, logged in, rebooted again, and now it's stuck at initramfs/busybox shell and won't load the GUI.
[23:02] <siren_face2000> who asked me if I had tried setting my boot order?
[23:04] <siren_face2000> I did try booting from the USB HDD
[23:04] <siren_face2000> but, nothing happened.
[23:04] <bmccoy11> siren_face2000: glitsj16
[23:04] <siren_face2000> ok
[23:04] <siren_face2000> glitsj16, I did try, but nothing happened.
[23:04] <bmccoy11> Can anyone help me?
[23:05] <bmccoy11> I feel ignored :3
[23:05] <siren_face2000> I also tried using F12 to boot from it directly.
[23:05] <dupingping86> And what are differences between grub and grub2
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: when you get dropped to busybox, what is the error message?
[23:06] <bmccoy11> Nothing.
[23:06] <dragonfly> dupingping86: among other things, they use different configuration files
[23:06] <bmccoy11> Wait
[23:06] <bmccoy11> Let me check
[23:06] <SonikkuAmerica> bmccoy11: Does it say "Gave up waiting for root device" or something
[23:06] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[23:06] <bmccoy11> Nope
[23:06] <k1l_> dupingping86: grub2 is standard since some time. use that
[23:07] <bmccoy11> It just says "BusyBox Shell..."
[23:07] <bmccoy11> No error whatsoever.
[23:07] <tropicalpapaya> I am trying to install 12.04 through PXE. The installer boots just fine and I go through menus to choose keyboard layout and network interface. Then the screen flashes to "Downloading release" or something similar and the progress bar disappears. The installer sits there blankly for a while, then the system shuts down automatically. How can I diagnose the issue?
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: can you take a photo of the screen and post it?
[23:07] <bmccoy11> Sure.
[23:08] <dupingping86> ok
[23:08] <glitsj16> siren_face2000: have a look around in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for possible clues, or pastebin those on http://paste.ubuntu.com so people can have a look at them
[23:09] <dupingping86> who does know about fuseftp with perl?
[23:10] <glitsj16> siren_face2000: to make the pastebinning easier, you can .. sudo apt-get install pastebinit .. after installing that .. pastebinit /var/log/dmesg .. same for the other one
[23:11] <dupingping86> fuseftp is very slow
[23:11] <bekks> Yes, as every fuse based implementation.
[23:11] <dupingping86> so i can't use that
[23:13] <bmccoy11> hitsujiTMO: Windows 8 boot chooser - http://imgur.com/MaEMINu - Busybox shell - http://imgur.com/GVanuUq
[23:13] <dupingping86> Hey! you know very fast ftp filesystem.
[23:13] <dupingping86> ?
[23:13] <bmccoy11> Filesystem?
[23:14] <dupingping86> yes
[23:14] <bmccoy11> Ext2.
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: and there's no text above that whatsoever?
[23:14] <bmccoy11> Nope.
[23:14] <bmccoy11> That's all she wrote.
[23:14] <dragonfly> dupingping86: what are you trying to do? Perhaps there is a better tool for the job.
[23:14] <dupingping86> no no. FTP Filesystem use with mount command
[23:15] <Ben64> bmccoy11: you installed using wubi?
[23:15] <bmccoy11> Yes.
[23:15] <bmccoy11> :/
[23:15] <k1l_> bmccoy11: :(
[23:15] <dragonfly> dupingping86: you are trying to mount a remote filesystem?
[23:15] <k1l_> dont use wubi. make a native install on own partitions
[23:15] <dupingping86> yes
[23:15] <bmccoy11> How can I fix it without reinstalling.
[23:15] <Ben64> you cannot
[23:16] <k1l_> bmccoy11: best way is to reinstall and use a real install this time
[23:16] <bmccoy11> There must be something wrong.
[23:16] <Ben64> the "wrong" thing is using wubi, unfortunately
[23:16] <bmccoy11> I want to install 13.10 but it doesn't detect Windows.
[23:17] <bmccoy11> Fresh Windows 8.1 installation on a newly wiped hard drive.
[23:17] <dupingping86> hi
[23:17] <hewhomust> hi
[23:17] <bmccoy11> Hi
[23:18] <dragonfly> dupingping86: do you have to use ftp or could you use ssh?
[23:18] <qwk> hello guys o/
[23:18] <bmccoy11> What did Wubi even do wrong? The first time it rebooted, it worked fine.
[23:19] <qwk> I have find an apt-get who is incorrect
[23:19] <qwk> apt-get install yaws
[23:19] <qwk> in the repos, who should I talk to
[23:19] <bmccoy11>  ?
[23:19] <hewhomust> what???
[23:20] <bprompt> ehheh
[23:20] <Ben64> qwk: you're going to have to explain what you're talking about
[23:20] <bprompt> qwk:    what do you mean?
[23:20] <qwk> like if u installing a program
[23:20] <hewhomust> what does it say?
[23:20] <bmccoy11> W a t
[23:20] <qwk> u want it to work
[23:20] <bprompt> qwk:    ok... so you want to install something?
[23:20] <qwk> but it seem to be broke
[23:20] <dragonfly> qwk: what makes you think it is broken? is there an error message?
[23:20] <hewhomust> whats broken?
[23:20] <qwk> the yaws from aptitude seem to be broke
[23:21] <bmccoy11> Can someone help me??
[23:21] <bprompt> qwk:    try a quick -> sudo apt-get check
[23:21] <Ben64> !details | qwk
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: wubi is unfortunately prone to these kinds of issues. the file system sits inside another OS so things can change vi windows that break wubi
[23:21] <bmccoy11> It does?
[23:21] <bmccoy11> Oh....
[23:21] <qwk> i compared it to my friend who is running arch
[23:21] <glitsj16> siren_face2000: please scratch what i wrote, that assumes you're in the system, which doesn't boot so i forgot the issue to begin with sorry .. can you describe what exactly you are seeing when trying to boot into the external HDD? blinking lights on the USB? black screen after seeing GRUB menu? things like that can help..
[23:21] <bmccoy11> It doesn't just shrink the partition?
[23:21] <qwk> i couldnt find the config file etc
[23:21] <bprompt> qwk:    try a quick -> sudo apt-get check   <--- will list who and what's missing,    --> sudo apt-get -f install <--- will attempt to fix the installations
[23:21] <qwk> like /etc/yaws.conf
[23:22] <qwk> ok, i will give it a shoot
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: you cant shrink a live filesystem, so since windows is running it can't shrink it. it creates a file that is used to house the wubi filesystem
[23:22] <bmccoy11> hitsujiTMO: How can I uninstall Ubuntu and reinstall it onto a seperate partition?
[23:23] <bmccoy11> Just delete the folder?
[23:23] <Ben64> there should be an uninstaller
[23:23] <bmccoy11> Also, will Windows still detect it on a seperate partition?
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: you can remove wubi from add/remove programs
[23:24] <bmccoy11> Oh. Dang.
[23:24] <bprompt> bmccoy11:    usually you'd just reformat the partition, thus wiping it, just make sure you save any files you want saved
[23:24] <bmccoy11> Okay.
[23:24] <bmccoy11> I'll just shrink it for now.
[23:25] <qwk> oh it worked now
[23:25] <bmccoy11> Why doesn't 13.10 detect my OS though?
[23:25] <bprompt> bmccoy11:    13.10 detect?  who?
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: i presume you have windows installed as mbr, so you meed to make sure you boot ubuntu in bios/legacy mode
[23:25] <bmccoy11> I already do. :D
[23:25] <bmccoy11> I don't have a UEFI motherboard.
[23:25] <dupingping86> who is developing fuseftp?
[23:25] <qwk> the thing was it was located in /etc/init.d/yaws instead of /etc/yaws.conf as in Arch
[23:26] <Ben64> qwk: /etc/init.d/yaws is not the config file
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: ok, when you are ready can you boot to the ubuntu live cd and we can have a look from there. you can connect to here in xchat or via the web chat interface
[23:26] <bmccoy11> It doesn't detect it, still. I'm using a regular BIOS and a fresh Windows 8.1 install on the stock partitioning.
[23:26] <ekristen> anyone having a problem installing git on 12.10?
[23:27] <bprompt> bmccoy11:   you just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and it only boots to Ubuntu, leaving windows off  the Grub menu?
[23:27] <bmccoy11> I installed the LTS version.
[23:27] <dupingping86> dragonfly: ?
[23:27] <bmccoy11> Off of WUBI.
[23:28] <bprompt> bmccoy11:   tried -> sudo update-grub <-- yet ?
[23:28] <bmccoy11> bprompt: that isn't my problem at all.
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> bmccoy11: Why are you using Wubi anyway?
[23:28] <bmccoy11> ...
[23:28] <bprompt> ahemm... alright
[23:28] <bmccoy11> Because I didn't want to partition it p.
[23:28] <bmccoy11> *it
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> bmccoy11  wubi is a windows application, it's not a real installation
[23:29] <bmccoy11> I didn't want to have to risk having to reinstall Windows again.
[23:29] <bmccoy11> I know.
[23:29] <bmccoy11> It should work, though.
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> bmccoy11  and wubi cannot be upgraded
[23:29] <bmccoy11> Oh.
[23:29] <dupingping86> give me MACOS style with GTK3+?
[23:30] <MonkeyDust> bmccoy11  because it is not real
[23:30] <bmccoy11> Well, why doesn't 13.10 detect Windows???
[23:30] <bmccoy11> It just says that my entire disk is unpartitioned.
[23:30] <siren_face2000> weird. Everything seems fine
[23:30] <dupingping86> give me MACOS style with GTK3+? on ubuntu12.04 I using
[23:30] <Ben64> bmccoy11: you keep saying that, come back using the livecd and we can find out why
[23:30] <siren_face2000> Can I give you guys an idea of what my BIOS looks like?
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: ok, when you are ready can you boot to the ubuntu live cd and we can have a look from there. you can connect to here in xchat or via the web chat interface
[23:31] <bmccoy11> Okay. Let me re-write 13.04 to the USB drive.
[23:31] <bmccoy11> *13.10
[23:31] <bmccoy11> Derp
[23:31] <bmccoy11> I'm on my Nexus, so no need to quit
[23:31] <intrz_> where do i find aa-complains?
[23:32] <jellow> is it safe to chown a remote file-system mounted over sshfs to gain non-root access ?
[23:32] <MonkeyDust> intrz_  "aa-complains"?
[23:33] <intrz_> MonkeyDust: I am trying to install a brother printer.. says I need aa-complains, but I can't find it
[23:33] <intrz_> looks like it was in an old ubuntu version
[23:34] <bmccoy11> Hang in there, folks.
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> intrz_: try installing  apparmor-utils
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> !find aa-complain
[23:37] <eoss> Is there a way to name a cronjob?
[23:37] <intrz_> hitsujiTMO: I installed apparmor which looked like was supposed to replace apparmor-utils, but didn't contain aa-complain...
[23:38] <bmccoy11> Booting to the Live USB...
[23:39] <ekristen> anyone have a recommendation for a npm caching proxy?
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> intrz_: make sure that package is installed, its not installed by default. is should then created the bin in /usr/sbin/aa-complain
[23:39] <intrz_> hm ok thanks
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> ekristen: https://npmjs.org/package/npm-proxy-cache anygood?
[23:40] <bmccoy11> Clicked "Continue"
[23:40] <bmccoy11> Not going to connect to the internet yet.
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: please do, will make it easier to get us info
[23:41] <bmccoy11> Okay
[23:41] <bmccoy11> Whelp, I'm not at the prompt to do that just yet, so that's good to know
[23:41] <glitsj16> eoss: if you mean putting a cronjob file into one of the /etc/cron.d or /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} directories then yes .. what are you trying to do exactly?
[23:42] <phatso> I just installed ubuntu in vbox and my resolution is 800X600. When I click the monitors icon it says unknown monitor and won't let me see any higher resolutions. I'd like it to be at least 1025X768 or preferably 1280X960
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: once you're into the desktop please run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:42] <bmccoy11> Okay.
[23:42] <intrz_> I have a computer I don't want to be online, because its security sensitive, but its a bit troublesome to download one by one deb package and move by usb stick.. might unbuntu open any ports or connect to any serveressomewhere if I just plug in the machine for a short while to install some packages?
[23:42] <bmccoy11> Well, I'm on the installer right now.
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: you should be able to cancel the installer and bring it to the desktop
[23:43] <bmccoy11> "This computer currently has no detected operating systems. What would you like to do?"
[23:43] <bmccoy11> "Free space: 1.0TB"
[23:44] <bmccoy11> I'll get pastebinit.
[23:45] <colDrMcBeardman> hi, i'm trying to get skype to work with 12.04 and i can only get video if i run it as root and the mic doesn't work.
[23:45] <eoss> glitsj16: I am trying to name cronjobs so I can identify and stop them later at a certain time
[23:46] <bmccoy11> It's frozen on "Quitting"
[23:46] <eoss> glitsj16: I only need a cromnjob to run every 5 or 3 or 20 minutes for 8 or 16 or 32 hours, depending on user input, so its important I am able to create a 2nd cronjob at the time of the first, where the 2nd cronjob can identify the first cronjob and destroy it
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> eoss: put a comment before the cronjob with a name
[23:46] <bmccoy11> Rebooting.
[23:47] <pvl1> is there a tasksel laptop on ubuntu
[23:47] <pvl1> or something like it
[23:47] <bmccoy11> "The application Keyboard Input Methods has closed unexpectedly"
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: ok, try rebooting ang just "try ubuntu" instead
[23:49] <eoss> hitsujiTMO: it would be possible to automate that as well?
[23:49] <bmccoy11> Getting pastebinit, hitsujiTMO
[23:49] <bmccoy11> Done.
[23:49] <bmccoy11> Now what?
[23:49] <bmccoy11> 	
[23:49] <jeffrey_f> intrz_: Ubuntu will make http requests (wget) requests to the ubuntu site to update the repository lists and then pull the updates.  On a decent connection, this shouldn't take more than just a few minutes.  You can disconnect once the downloads are complete.  Also, look into a hardened firewall between your sensitive system and your internet or even LAN
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: sudo apt-get install gdisk
[23:50] <sudormrf> hey guys, I am trying to get a cronjob setup, but it looks like I need to set the path for the command first.  can I do something like this "/path/to/program --switches" in the crontab or is there a better way to accomplish this?
[23:50] <eoss> hitsujiTMO: i suppose my program could write to the crontab file, and then open and read it later to identify?
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> eoss: thats what i would do
[23:50] <bmccoy11> 	Erm....
[23:50] <eoss> hitsujiTMO: thank you
[23:50] <intrz_> jeffrey_f: thanks
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: then: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit && sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: that should generate 2 urls, can you paste the 2 urls here
[23:53] <bmccoy11> Okay
[23:54] <bmccoy11> -L?
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: yup. small L. that lists the partitions
[23:55] <bmccoy11> Okay.
[23:56] <bmccoy11> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6835012/
[23:56] <jeffrey_f> intrz_: There are few ports open in Ubuntu.  Unless you have a service running, there should be no ports listening therefore few, if any, routes to endanger your system......Nothing should be able to run without your express permission.  Remember, this isn't Windows
[23:57] <glitsj16> sudormrf: that's what it takes yes, full paths .. you can also put all your commands/switches in a script and refer to that in crontab (also using the full path)
[23:58] <bmccoy11> "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda' The until disk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[23:58] <bmccoy11> *fdisk
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> bmccoy11: and i think i see where the issue is already :P
[23:59] <bmccoy11> Good.
[23:59] <bmccoy11> :D
[23:59] <bmccoy11> O