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| ahoneybun | hey valorie | 04:11 |
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| valorie | hi ahoneybun | 04:12 |
| ahoneybun | nice ubuntu user day | 04:12 |
| valorie | thanks! | 04:12 |
| valorie | it was fun | 04:12 |
| valorie | I should blog about it tonight | 04:12 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 04:23 |
| ahoneybun | I was wondering before what will we do with the docs website? | 04:23 |
| valorie | I'm not sure what you mean? | 04:29 |
| valorie | IMO now that we have a working system, we should document it | 04:29 |
| valorie | esp. as we work out the last kinks | 04:30 |
| ahoneybun | well how are we going to move the current docs on userbase over to the site once translations are good | 04:31 |
| ahoneybun | I know we can make docbook I believe | 04:31 |
| valorie | yes | 04:31 |
| valorie | afaik we're not quite done -- are the current trusty images/slides etc. there? | 04:31 |
| ahoneybun | no I mean once we have everything set up | 04:32 |
| valorie | right, at that point we ask the www people to convert it to docbook | 04:33 |
| valorie | docbook is the package for the ISO | 04:33 |
| valorie | and then we export to HTML for the website | 04:34 |
| valorie | right? | 04:34 |
| ahoneybun | if we can do thast | 04:34 |
| ahoneybun | *that | 04:34 |
| valorie | if we can do what? | 04:34 |
| ahoneybun | if it was possible | 04:35 |
| valorie | which part are you unsure about? | 04:35 |
| ahoneybun | docbook -> HTML | 04:36 |
| valorie | why would we do docbook to html? | 04:37 |
| ahoneybun | I didn't know we could | 04:37 |
| valorie | we can just generate it right from the wiki I believe | 04:37 |
| ahoneybun | oh even better | 04:37 |
| valorie | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Publishing_from_MediaWiki | 04:38 |
| valorie | actually there are loads of ways to do this | 04:38 |
| valorie | and I'll bet the www people know best what works | 04:38 |
| ahoneybun | cool | 04:38 |
| ahoneybun | I just didn't know that | 04:39 |
| ahoneybun | anyway g2g sleep | 04:39 |
| valorie | it can be exported as pdf, as ebooks, etc. | 04:39 |
| valorie | niters | 04:39 |
| ahoneybun | thanks | 04:39 |
| valorie | what I'm saying is once we do this successfully, write it up | 04:39 |
| valorie | so if one of us is hit by a bus, someone else can carry one | 04:39 |
| valorie | on | 04:40 |
| valorie | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9343931/convert-mediawiki-wikitext-format-to-html-using-command-line | 04:41 |
| valorie | I googled on mediawiki to html | 04:41 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:52 |
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| shadeslayer | morning | 09:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world | 11:43 |
| ovidiu-florin | If I may, Kmail users, please vote if you agree: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330533 | 11:43 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 330533 in folders "There should be a global setting for Keep replies in the folder of the message being replied to" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] | 11:43 |
| * yofel believes that this isn't really needed, if kmail could connect mails from different folder as long as they belong to the right thread | 11:45 | |
| yofel | like gmail does it | 11:45 |
| yofel | *folders | 11:45 |
| soee | good morning | 11:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: I think this is what currently hapens | 11:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | only that it is individually set for each folder | 11:47 |
| yofel | oh really? If yes then it was just buggy the last time I tried it | 11:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: I can see the same sent message in the sent folder and in the replied to folder | 11:50 |
| Riddell | ook | 11:55 |
| Riddell | hi sgclark | 12:52 |
| Riddell | all your packages uploaded | 12:52 |
| Riddell | you keep insisting on using capital letters on .symbols file names which isn't right, it must match the package name | 12:52 |
| Riddell | I'm also still not convinced by multi-arch: allowed, what's the lintian error you get when using same? (I don't get one) | 12:52 |
| sgclark | Riddell: sorry possibly left over from copying a debian over | 12:57 |
| Riddell | http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2014-January/028215.html "Release schedule for Plasma Next" "Tue 17th June Plasma 2014.6 Final | 13:00 |
| Riddell | seems to fit quite nice with us | 13:00 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kinit appears to be beyond my capabilities, if you find free time I can give you what I have | 13:33 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yeah looking at it now | 13:37 |
| sgclark | thank you | 13:37 |
| sgclark | Riddell: put my debian in my ubuntu one if you want to borrow files like copyright etc | 13:39 |
| Riddell | thanks | 13:39 |
| Riddell | amazing how much of kf5 is GPL2 only, shows I was right to make a policy of GPL2+ for KDE and avoid GPL 3, it wouldn't be practical | 13:40 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: to answer your question of yesterday my aim with packaging KF5 is to make decent packages we and debian can use for years to come | 13:49 |
| Riddell | if someone wants to use kf5 packages today we have neon | 13:49 |
| Riddell | so not the place to cut corners :) | 13:49 |
| sgclark | it probably does not help I am in the wrong timezone, I can try to adjust if it is to much an issue | 13:53 |
| sgclark | I can tell you I love packaging :) | 13:54 |
| Riddell | awooga, just the sort of person we like | 13:56 |
| Riddell | you seem to work in pretty much a european timezone anyway | 13:56 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kdewebkit ready for you | 14:07 |
| Riddell | super | 14:08 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kmediaplayer ready | 14:32 |
| Riddell | too fast too fast! | 14:34 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kdewebkit uploaded! | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: so KDE SC 4.12.1 seems to install file | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | *fine | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | runs fine too from what I can tell | 14:44 |
| Riddell | ... maybe it is fine :) | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | just need to check if kde-full is installable | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: well, IMO it's better to have packages out and iterate on those rather than try and figure out each and every small detail that is blocking on QA | 14:49 |
| Riddell | got to be done sometime, may as well do it now | 14:51 |
| Riddell | plus sgclark is doing a marvellous job | 14:52 |
| Riddell | sgclark: usr/share/dbus-1/ files go in -dev packages only needed at build time. they also often need renamed | 14:53 |
| sgclark | Riddell: which package? | 14:54 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kmediaplayer (which I just uploaded!) | 14:55 |
| Riddell | and filed this for https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115381/ | 14:55 |
| sgclark | Riddell: thank you | 14:55 |
| Riddell | phew all this pbuilder lark takes a long time | 14:56 |
| genii | Is there some package altered recently which lead to a "Guest" account being created? I didn't have this user yesterday. | 14:56 |
| Riddell | I'd have been faster making a chroot myself | 14:56 |
| Riddell | genii: lightdm has always offered a guest account | 14:56 |
| genii | Riddell: Odd, I never had it listed on the greeter before, until today. | 14:57 |
| Riddell | it does need something installed, forget what | 14:57 |
| Riddell | but it's on the default install | 14:57 |
| genii | OK. So probably some lightdm update overwrote the conf file to defaults or something. | 14:58 |
| * genii investigates | 14:58 | |
| genii | Weird. lightdm-kde-greeter.conf last touch time was Dec 20, so that can't be it. | 15:03 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kprintutils ready | 15:07 |
| sgclark | Riddell: this is the lintain error arch-dependent-file-not-in-arch-specific-directory usr/bin/kf5kross | 15:17 |
| Riddell | sgclark: packaging kross? | 15:19 |
| Riddell | sgclark: make a package called kross for it | 15:19 |
| sgclark | ok thank you | 15:21 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kprintutils uploaded! (after a quick relicencing) | 15:34 |
| Riddell | kdewebkit reuploaded with i386 symbols! | 15:36 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I am still getting error, will leave as is to see if you get it. | 15:39 |
| Riddell | sgclark: on which? | 15:40 |
| sgclark | kross | 15:40 |
| Riddell | what's the multi-arch value set at? if it has binaries it can't be multi-arch | 15:40 |
| Riddell | that's only for stuff in /usr/lib/x86 etc | 15:41 |
| sgclark | same | 15:41 |
| Riddell | yeah, remove that | 15:41 |
| sgclark | Riddell: that fixed it thanks :) | 15:45 |
| Riddell | solid patch committed! | 15:48 |
| Riddell | does it get annoying I use exclamation marks so much with kf5? I just get so exited! | 15:48 |
| sgclark | not at all it is exciting stuff :) | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | okay so I've just pushed logic for figuring out which driver is installed | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | and active | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | can someone please check? | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | If it detects the right active driver for them | 16:11 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kinit uploaded to ppa, would be good if you could review it | 16:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: in PPA or bzr? | 16:33 |
| sgclark | Riddell: will do | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I've asked the mighty launchpad to do a build | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | though might be faster to just bzr dailydeb it yourself | 16:34 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: into experimental? | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 16:36 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kross ready | 16:47 |
| * Riddell reviews | 16:51 | |
| sgclark | Riddell: there are notifyconfig folders in kinit source | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: ping | 16:55 |
| Riddell | sgclark: some references I failed to change in debian/control, anything else? | 16:56 |
| sgclark | control had a few knotifyconfig and here is what I get for lintain http://paste.ubuntu.com/6838846/ | 16:57 |
| Riddell | I think we can live with those lintian issues, I think they're caused by kdeinit being a generally weird library | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ping | 16:58 |
| sgclark | ok :) | 16:58 |
| Riddell | but I left the errors without an override in the hope that debian or someone else will confirm | 16:58 |
| sgclark | all good then | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: do you know how to make KMessageWidget the circle progress thing | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: as a feedback to let the user know that information about his system is being generated | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | *make KMessageWidget do the | 16:59 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kross uploaded! | 17:10 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I renamed the packages kf5-kross -> kross as I don't think there's a need for a namespace | 17:10 |
| Riddell | and put the plugins into kross package for simplicity | 17:10 |
| sgclark | ok | 17:10 |
| Riddell | so just kunitconversion, kdesignerplugin and kded to go? | 17:12 |
| Riddell | in tier 3 | 17:12 |
| Riddell | alpha is due this weekend, I'm out at fosdem until monday though | 17:13 |
| Riddell | once it's all done we should put the packaging into bzr then work out how to script any future updates so it's just a case of running the script | 17:13 |
| Riddell | like we do with KDE SC | 17:13 |
| sgclark | kdesignerplugin almost done | 17:13 |
| Riddell | :) | 17:14 |
| sgclark | Riddell: hmm, why would pbuilder libkf5designerplugin5 missing files (usr/lib/*/qt5), aborting, these files exist and debuild runs fine | 17:17 |
| sgclark | nevermind I think I know | 17:17 |
| sgclark | Riddell: seems I don't know ^^ | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I am not sure kmessagewidget can be used for that | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: agateau would know though, since it's his baby | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | generally though kbusywidget is used (I think that is its name) | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I'm sure I've seen it being done somewhere | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | or you could look at the busyoverlay in libkubuntu | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | no kbusywidget | 17:28 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I would guess there's a missing build-dep that means those plugins don't get built in pbuilder | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: plz review my upgrader changes | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | about to head out I am | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: thoughts on moving KDE SC 4.12.1 to backports | 17:29 |
| Riddell | sgclark: do you have log output from pbuilder? (for some reason you have to specify it manually) | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: :S | 17:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: go for it | 17:29 |
| * shadeslayer is way way way behind his workload for today | 17:29 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: don't worry, another 6 hours in the day to go :) | 17:30 |
| sgclark | Riddell: will look thanks | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: heh | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | my ktimetracker is gone /o\ | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://lxr.kde.org/ident?i=KPixmapSequenceOverlayPainter+ | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | there's also a plasma::busywidget which may or may not be usable | 17:31 |
| * apachelogger away | 17:31 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: mhmm | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ping | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you paste the output of qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanSuspend | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: as well as qdbus org.freedesktop.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanSuspend | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | ofcourse, pm-utils must not be installed :) | 17:48 |
| yofel | on that topic, let me remove pm-utils | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: btw we still need to keep pm-utils for other reasons -.- | 17:50 |
| yofel | which are? | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | things like /usr/lib/pm-utils/video-quirks and /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/ | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.kde.org/pib7gulfs | 17:52 |
| yofel | are those actually used by logind? | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | I don't have a clue what is and what is not used by the ubuntu logind >.> | 17:54 |
| yofel | heh | 17:54 |
| yofel | ok, at least my hibernate button is gone \o/ | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | o_o | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: see above, plz replace Suspend with Hibernate | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | interesting : qdbus org.freedesktop.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate shadeslayer@solembum | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | false | 17:56 |
| yofel | ok, suspend workd | 17:56 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kdesignerplugin ready, couldn't find anything to create symbols with | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: but do you have a button to suspend? | 17:56 |
| yofel | yep | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 17:56 |
| yofel | those button essentially depend on the dbus responses anyway | 17:57 |
| yofel | *buttons | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 17:57 |
| * shadeslayer is staring at the code | 17:57 | |
| shadeslayer | and it's all synchronous and blocking \o/ | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/p886e28a2 | 17:58 |
| yofel | did we find a way to ensuring that qdbus is always working yet? | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: is there a way to get debchange to only edit the latest entry | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | so that I can run : dch --edit -l ppa "" | 18:18 |
| yofel | it does that by default for UNRELEASED changelogs, not sure how to do it for others | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | really? | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | so I'm updating ktp, and it builds 0.7.1-0ubuntu1 | 18:23 |
| yofel | it always edits an UNRELEASED entry | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | when used with uupdate | 18:23 |
| Riddell | hi shadeslayer, back now for 30 mins | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 18:24 |
| Riddell | >/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanSuspend | 18:24 |
| Riddell | true | 18:24 |
| Riddell | >/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus org.freedesktop.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanSuspend | 18:24 |
| Riddell | true | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | that is what is used to populate the kickoff | 18:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kunitconversion ready | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: and you don't have pm-utils installed and have restarted ? | 18:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: oh well I have pm-utils installed now, will that affect those dbus outputs? | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | I think so | 18:28 |
| * Riddell removes | 18:28 | |
| Riddell | >/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanSuspend | 18:33 |
| Riddell | false | 18:33 |
| Riddell | >/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus org.freedesktop.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanSuspend | 18:33 |
| Riddell | false | 18:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: so that explains kickoff | 18:33 |
| Riddell | anyone able to confirm bug 1274219 ? can't resize from window borders | 18:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1274219 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "can't resize maximised windows / kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1274219 | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/upower/trusty/view/head:/debian/patches/always_use_pm-utils_backend.patch | 18:39 |
| genii | Riddell: Yup, same thing here. | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | so we *need* pm-utils | 18:39 |
| soee | resize when maximised ? | 18:39 |
| soee | never seen/use that oO | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | just that it goes via logind -> upower -> pm-utils | 18:40 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: hah | 18:40 |
| genii | Although usually when you maximize a window, you *want* it to be using the entire screeen.... | 18:40 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: so why can I remove pm-utils? missing depends there no? | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you can't , but about 5-6 months ago there was no pm-utils on the ubuntu CD | 18:41 |
| Riddell | genii: oh it's only on maximised windows | 18:42 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Doesn't bother me on Trusty, I can resize a Dolphin window on all 4 corners. | 18:42 |
| Riddell | genii: why would you want to resize a maximised window? that's nuts | 18:42 |
| lordievader | Oh wait it wasn't maximized, hold on... | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I think this is the only supported mechanism to suspend and hibernate, logind -> upower -> pm-utils | 18:42 |
| lordievader | Err no, on one corner it automatically unmaximizes so that the window can move. | 18:43 |
| genii | Riddell: I guess so you could do something like have a strip down the side or such of something different and just hit maximize then move one side of the window over | 18:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: right, so upower should depend on pm-utils but it depends on pm-utils | systemd-services | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | apparently so | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | seems like a bug in upower packaging then | 18:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: seems to come from debian | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | bah | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I think the idea was, kubuntu-desktop should directly depend on pm-utils | 18:46 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: but why not upower? | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | I don't follow | 18:47 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-desktop does directly depend on pm-utils but if upower needs to use pm-utils why does upower not depend on pm-utils | 18:47 |
| Riddell | currently upower depends on pm-utils | systemd-services | 18:47 |
| Riddell | which seems incorrect if it uses pm-utils even when systemd-services is installed | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | s/should/shouldn't/ | 18:49 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 18:49 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1274219] can't resize maximised windows / kubuntu @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1274219 (by SA) | 18:53 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: could you reply to your testing request on kubuntu-devel so we don't forget this? | 19:01 |
| * Riddell out | 19:01 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ack | 19:01 |
| * Riddell installs pm-utils again so he can suspend before going out | 19:02 | |
| yofel | leave the question why the hell I can suspend fine without pm-utils | 19:37 |
| yofel | and as far as I know logind doesn't need upower at all | 19:37 |
| yofel | so it's logind | upower -> pm-utils | 19:37 |
| Quintasan | do we have anyone working on new homerun? | 19:45 |
| Quintasan | if not I will do it once I get back home and fix kdeconnect overwrite since I must have missed it | 19:46 |
| soee | Quintasan: any chance to fix this problem iwth kdeconnect? https://plus.google.com/116832083515190735580/posts/M1DEH4XAbnF | 19:47 |
| soee | ah you posted id just before me :) | 19:52 |
| soee | ah hes gone :D | 19:52 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1241870] kde shutdown script is not executed @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1241870 (by Soos Gergely) | 19:55 |
| * yofel hits quasselcore with a big hammer | 21:07 | |
| yofel | hopefully that'll help | 21:07 |
| yofel | anyone else having issues with virtuoso? http://paste.kde.org/p92fe1ca5 | 21:07 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kdesignerplugin uploaded! | 22:20 |
| Riddell | I renamed the packages kgendesignerplugin and libkf5designerplugin5 and put the binary in kgendesignerplugin | 22:21 |
| Riddell | I think that's better than pretending it's a library | 22:21 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kunitconversion uploaded! | 22:27 |
| Riddell | a work of perfection that one | 22:27 |
| Riddell | sgclark: on kded the kdeinit files aren't -dev files, they belong with the kded binary | 22:28 |
| Riddell | except in kdelibs 4 land we did something to get rid of the kdeinit files which I don't remember just now | 22:29 |
| Riddell | but just package them with the kded binary for now | 22:29 |
| Riddell | needs dh_movelibkdeinit adapted | 22:29 |
| Riddell | and presumably kinit told about that runpath | 22:34 |
| Riddell | mm needs make_libkdeinit4_private.diff adapted from kde4libs | 22:34 |
| sgclark | Riddell: sorry was away | 22:41 |
| sgclark | Riddell: lost me at dh_movelibkdeinit | 22:43 |
| sgclark | nevermind got it from kde4lib source | 22:49 |
| Riddell | right, needs some programming foo, that patch in kde4libs needs adapted to kinit and them the dh_movelibkdeinit script from pkg-kde-tools package needs changed for kdeinit5 | 22:54 |
| Riddell | but for now just package the kdeinit files along with the /usr/bin/ file the relate to | 22:55 |
| Riddell | it's a way of loading /usr/bin binaries quicker | 22:55 |
| sgclark | yeah I fixed that, my eyes are glazing over a bit looking at this patch lol | 22:57 |
| sgclark | I will package as is for now :) | 22:57 |
| sgclark | Riddell: is ktexteditor intentionally left off our t3 list? | 23:01 |
| Riddell | sgclark: nope | 23:02 |
| Riddell | sgclark: but there's no tar for it | 23:03 |
| sgclark | ahhh seems you are correct, nor plasma-framework | 23:04 |
| sgclark | hopefully t4 does not depend on those | 23:05 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kded ready without patch, I think that is beyond my current capabilities | 23:21 |
| Riddell | "Extensible daemon for providing system level services" is it system? | 23:54 |
| Riddell | surely kded manages sesssion services | 23:54 |
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