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| pitti | Bonjour tout le monde ! | 05:25 |
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| darkxst | pitti, hi | 06:33 |
| Mirv | hmm, does someone have Bluetooth working on up-to-date trusty? I mean, just eg. hciconfig showing something etc | 08:23 |
| Mirv | ie is it just my machine or something more general. I think it was ~working last week | 08:27 |
| Mirv | ok I gather it's probably just me since I have the same problem with -3 kernel too. nothing problematic in dmesg, ath3k gets loaded, it's just that from user space at least the Bluetooth seems to be not existing | 08:42 |
| Sweetshark | Moin! | 08:56 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 08:56 |
| seb128 | hey Sweetshark | 08:56 |
| Sweetshark | srly, launchpad!?! You are not being helpful https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-nattytest2/+build/5530899 | 08:57 |
| seb128 | shrug | 08:57 |
| Sweetshark | haha, it took 14 hours. not gonna tell you how it ended though. | 08:57 |
| thumper | o/ seb128 | 08:58 |
| seb128 | you should ask on #ubuntu-devel or maybe ping directly wgrant/infinity/cjwatson about it | 08:58 |
| seb128 | thumper, hey, how are you? | 08:58 |
| darkxst | seb128, hey | 08:58 |
| thumper | seb128: pretty good, upgrading to trusty as we speak | 08:58 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: yup. | 08:58 |
| Mirv | hrm, I guess the Bluetooth problem was still something user space. installing blueman and letting it enable Bluetooth actually enabled it | 08:58 |
| * seb128 hides before thumper discovers his computer stopped working | 08:58 | |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 08:59 |
| thumper | hah | 08:59 |
| thumper | seb128: sprinting next week, so it better work still | 08:59 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:59 |
| seb128 | where do you sprint? | 08:59 |
| thumper | at least I'm upgrading now and not friday night | 08:59 |
| thumper | like I have before | 08:59 |
| thumper | seb128: capetown | 08:59 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: I will manually install the locally generated *.debs and check for the -ku and -base issues. | 08:59 |
| seb128 | thumper, ok, shame, we are in London next week so I was wondering if you guys too | 09:00 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, ok, but please still ask the launchpad guys, that's not normal | 09:00 |
| thumper | nah, sorry | 09:00 |
| thumper | would like to go back to london again | 09:00 |
| darkxst | seb128, are CSD's ok on gnome-ish things gnome-tweak-tool and devhelp? | 09:00 |
| thumper | although I feel next time will be passing through to and from the isle of man in july :) | 09:00 |
| seb128 | darkxst, better without it, devhelp is used by Unity users as well and when I tried the Debian version is was really not working well (same for d-feet) | 09:01 |
| seb128 | thumper, ;-) | 09:01 |
| seb128 | darkxst, gnome-tweak-tool is ok I guess | 09:02 |
| thumper | 91% through | 09:02 |
| seb128 | thumper, joke aside on trusty, I read comments on forums from unhappy unusers during holidays | 09:02 |
| seb128 | thumper, they were unhappy that saucy being our current "stable" is less stable than trusty alpha1 | 09:02 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:02 |
| darkxst | seb128, ok | 09:02 |
| thumper | hah | 09:02 |
| thumper | I've not had any issues with saucy | 09:03 |
| thumper | not that leap to mind anyway | 09:03 |
| seb128 | yeah, saucy is not buggy | 09:03 |
| seb128 | it's just that trusty is even better, we did almost no change out of bugfixing | 09:03 |
| seb128 | since everybody is busy on touch stuff | 09:03 |
| seb128 | no crack for the desktop users | 09:03 |
| seb128 | darkxst, you are not going to convert the world to CSD before the LTS and you are going to miss most defaults apps anyway (evince, eog, file-roller, gedit, etc) | 09:04 |
| seb128 | darkxst, it doesn't feel like Ubuntu GNOME has much to win to try to increase CSD use this cycle, it's not going to be consistently used | 09:05 |
| Laney | hallo | 09:06 |
| seb128 | UK is synced it seems | 09:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, JohnLea, Laney joining at the same time | 09:06 |
| seb128 | Laney, good morning, how are you? | 09:06 |
| Laney | good thank you! and you? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | I'm good, thanks | 09:07 |
| darkxst | seb128, I don't think any of those default apps have CSD's for 3.10 | 09:27 |
| seb128 | right | 09:27 |
| darkxst | gnome-tweak-tool was greatly improved (apart from CSD's) | 09:27 |
| seb128 | which is my point, since you are not going to have CSD in a consistent way, what's the point trying to push it for a few side apps? | 09:27 |
| darkxst | seb128, I am not trying to push it for the side apps really | 09:30 |
| seb128 | why do you want the new devhelp? | 09:30 |
| darkxst | seb128, I figured it would have 3.8 api's in it | 09:31 |
| seb128 | devhelp is a viewer, I don't think it contains APIs | 09:31 |
| seb128 | you mean 3.10 right? because we have 3.8 | 09:32 |
| darkxst | yes, didnt realise it was just a webview though | 09:33 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:33 |
| seb128 | I just looked to the 3.8->3.10 commits log, it seems mostly be CSD in the changes | 09:34 |
| seb128 | that and minor tweaks/fixes | 09:34 |
| darkxst | and it was mostly an example anyway, although I do want the new gnome-tweak-tool | 09:35 |
| seb128 | gnome-tweak-tool is fine | 09:35 |
| darkxst | and I am assuming the new apps, gnome-photos and gnome-weather are also fine? | 09:36 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:37 |
| darkxst | ok | 09:38 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, ça va ? | 09:40 |
| * pitti should pay more attention to IRC :) | 09:40 | |
| seb128 | pitti, salut ça va bien ! (though a bit annoyed at doko now) | 09:40 |
| pitti | heh | 09:40 |
| seb128 | "some of the things in the test rebuild don't build due to poppler, let's build poppler with -0O to workaround the issue rather than fix it, making our pdf rendering slower on the way" | 09:41 |
| Laney | ooh, an exciting build failure | 09:41 |
| * seb128 ponders playing revert war | 09:41 | |
| seb128 | pitti, et toi, comment vas-tu ? | 09:41 |
| pitti | you mean poppler itself fails, or things building against poppler are magically succeeding once you build it with -O0? | 09:41 |
| pitti | that'd be strange, but your "some" sounds like that | 09:42 |
| pitti | seb128: je vais bien aussi, en route à Belgium | 09:42 |
| pitti | massaging autopkgtest again, making nice progress on the LXC runner | 09:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, cvs, gdb-doc and others fail on some tex output error | 09:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, those apparently go away when rebuilding poppler with O0 | 09:43 |
| seb128 | which looks like a toolchain bug to me | 09:43 |
| stgraber | pitti: did allowing /dev/dsp rwm solve the python autopkgtests? | 09:43 |
| stgraber | pitti: apparently the python testsuite actually tries to play some sounds while it's running ;) | 09:44 |
| pitti | stgraber: I haven't tried that yet, but I will | 09:45 |
| ogra_ | Sweetshark, http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite ... "... proportion of that outlay could be cut by switching to free "open-source" software, such as OpenOffice, or Google Docs ..." | 09:57 |
| lifeless | EWUT. How is google docs open source, or free [for enterprises] | 10:12 |
| Sweetshark | ogra_: lolwut | 10:28 |
| * Sweetshark sends a request for a copy of the gdoc source code. After all the gouvernment declared it open source. | 10:30 | |
| Laney | focus on the positive :-) | 10:33 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, speaking about libreoffice, do you have something ready for sponsoring or do you want to wait on that ppa build retry to be done? | 10:34 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: I dont want to wait for the ppa, but am still doing some local testing. | 10:39 |
| seb128 | k | 10:39 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: FWIW, the package is already at http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/trusty/libreoffice_4.2.0~rc4-0ubuntu1_source.changes http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/trusty/libreoffice-l10n_4.2.0~rc4-0ubuntu1_source.changes | 10:40 |
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| Sweetshark | fscking disco. | 11:40 |
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| Sweetshark | seb128 seems to be hiding now that I want to tell him that I have no objections to sponsoring anymore ... | 12:18 |
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| Sweetshark | seb128: in case you didnt see the mail: the rc4 build should be good for sponsoring. | 13:51 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, yeah, I just saw, thanks, I'm going to do that in a bit | 13:51 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: If that works out it will be the first time we release a major version in sync with upstream. | 13:52 |
| Sweetshark | (IIRC) | 13:52 |
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| seb128 | mterry, hey, can I get a nice deja-dup integrated with Unity back in trusty? ;-) | 14:38 |
| mterry | seb128, it's in trunk! What more do you want? :) | 14:40 |
| mterry | seb128, 29.5 isn't due until next week | 14:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, yeah, but trunk wants a newer duplicity than trusty :p | 14:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, man, I need my crack this week, not next! | 14:41 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah... Duplicity and deja-dup need to be updated in step this time | 14:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, joke aside, next week wfm, thanks ;-) | 14:42 |
| mterry | seb128, probably this weekend in truth | 14:42 |
| seb128 | k | 14:42 |
| kgunn | mlankhorst: afternoon! | 15:07 |
| kgunn | mlankhorst: so we're trying to land mir...and gotta rebuild xserver due to client abi break...but, toolchain giving us a fit | 15:08 |
| kgunn | mlankhorst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1266492 | 15:08 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1266492 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Trusty) "ld:i386 crashes with -static -fPIE -pie" [Critical,Triaged] | 15:08 |
| kgunn | mlankhorst: can you help us ? we're stuck | 15:08 |
| mlankhorst | kgunn: yeah.. grab this | 15:09 |
| mlankhorst | kgunn: hm want me to upload a new rebuild to ubuntu when it's required? | 15:09 |
| kgunn | sil2100: ^ | 15:10 |
| kgunn | mlankhorst: well...so, this is interesting, this means i won't know if xserver/xmir is ok until after we release mir | 15:10 |
| mlankhorst | # Add a workaround for LP: #1266492 | 15:10 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1266492 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Trusty) "ld:i386 crashes with -static -fPIE -pie" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266492 | 15:10 |
| kgunn | mlankhorst: ideally we'd have it being built as part of the test silo | 15:10 |
| mlankhorst | confflags += lt_cv_prog_compiler_static_works=no | 15:10 |
| mlankhorst | meh fine I'll upload a new xorg-server explicitly.. | 15:11 |
| mlankhorst | enjoy | 15:14 |
| Laney | http://www.hamburger-me.com/p/best-burgers-in-london-top-10.html | 15:16 |
| mlankhorst | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/164032302/xorg-server_2%3A1.14.5-1ubuntu2_2%3A1.14.5-1ubuntu3.diff.gz | 15:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, getting ready for next week? ;-) | 15:19 |
| Laney | just sharing some useful information :P | 15:19 |
| mlankhorst | kgunn/sil2100: fixed in ubuntu | 15:25 |
| kgunn | mlankhorst: thank you! sil2100 ok man....shall we try again ? | 15:25 |
| tjaalton | huh, trying to file a bug against firefox but ubuntu-bug claims that it's an unofficial pkg when it isn't | 15:27 |
| * Laney plays the x-files theme | 15:27 | |
| tjaalton | on trusty | 15:27 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, wfm ... what package version do you use? | 15:29 |
| tjaalton | uh | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | build2-0ubuntu0.13.10.2 | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | where's that from.. | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | err | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | 26.0+build2-0ubuntu0.13.10.2 | 15:30 |
| seb128 | "err" ;-) | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | ok then | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | so it is an unofficial one, no idea where | 15:30 |
| seb128 | > 25 are blocked in proposed due to unhappy builds on arm and ppc | 15:30 |
| Laney | that's the version in saucy, no? | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | ah | 15:31 |
| seb128 | so if you have saucy-updates/security that's > trusty | 15:31 |
| tjaalton | well that's where I upgraded from | 15:31 |
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| tjaalton | a couple of weeks ago | 15:31 |
| tjaalton | anyway, getting phantom tabs that can't be closed | 15:31 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: yes! Ok, let me rebase on it then, but it's still not ready... oh no no, we're still have a lot to go | 15:33 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: we're still blocked on platform-api, but it's being worked on | 15:33 |
| sil2100 | mlankhorst: thanks! | 15:34 |
| kgunn | sil2100: ok...let me know if i need to do something or can help | 15:34 |
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| sil2100 | mlankhorst: it seems xorg-server build for i386 failed after the upload | 15:39 |
| sil2100 | mlankhorst: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/2:1.14.5-1ubuntu3/+build/5534330 | 15:39 |
| mlankhorst | sil2100: ignore | 15:40 |
| mlankhorst | xvfb fails from time to time | 15:40 |
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| seb128 | sil2100, didrocks: is libindicator under CI train yet? (how can I see the projects that got migrated to it?) | 16:40 |
| sil2100 | seb128: the CITrain Rampup spreadsheet indicates which projects are already migrated (the "in CI train" column) | 16:41 |
| sil2100 | seb128: it's migrated | 16:42 |
| seb128 | sil2100, ok, filed l21 on CI train then, if you can give me a slot ;-) | 16:42 |
| sil2100 | Sure | 16:43 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:43 |
| sil2100 | I wonder if we have enough silos ;) | 16:43 |
| seb128 | seems so | 16:43 |
| seb128 | there are 10 and the assigned are up to 7 | 16:43 |
| sil2100 | seb128: silo assigned! | 16:44 |
| seb128 | sil2100, thanks! | 16:44 |
| Laney | wee | 17:08 |
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| sil2100 | seb128: hi! Do you know by any chance who should be the lander for ubuntu-themes? Any propositions? | 18:17 |
| seb128 | sil2100, Cimi | 18:21 |
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| robert_ancell | seb128, still online :) | 21:06 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, yes! | 21:06 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I've been slightly shifting hours again recently... :-) | 21:07 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, how are you? | 21:07 |
| robert_ancell | not too bad | 21:07 |
| seb128 | is that english for "alright but could be better"? | 21:08 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, lp:~robert-ancell/gnome-screensaver/unity | 21:08 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, getting tired of the u-c-c transition? ;-) | 21:08 |
| seb128 | oh, nice! | 21:08 |
| * seb128 goes to try that | 21:08 | |
| robert_ancell | totally :) | 21:08 |
| robert_ancell | it didn't work the first time I installed it, but it seemed to work after a reboot | 21:09 |
| robert_ancell | And the password field doesn't get focus for some reason | 21:09 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, btw, you still don't test your changes, I caught you! | 21:09 |
| seb128 | :-) | 21:09 |
| robert_ancell | It used to work! wtf! | 21:09 |
| seb128 | the datetime panel? | 21:09 |
| robert_ancell | yeah | 21:10 |
| seb128 | before you decided to "rename" it by changing the .desktop only | 21:10 |
| seb128 | I guess | 21:10 |
| seb128 | reverting the .desktop change fixes it | 21:10 |
| robert_ancell | oh, right | 21:11 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, that vcs doesn't seem to have recent changes/an UI refactoring? | 21:19 |
| robert_ancell | it has a patch | 21:19 |
| seb128 | which one? | 21:19 |
| seb128 | there is no patch with > 150 lines of changes | 21:19 |
| robert_ancell | oh. hmm | 21:20 |
| * kenvandine watches flickering seb128 :) | 21:27 | |
| seb128_ | kenvandine, yeah, I'm on a not-so-good connection | 21:27 |
| seb128_ | kenvandine, how are you? | 21:27 |
| kenvandine | good | 21:27 |
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| robert_ancell | seb128, ok, try again | 21:29 |
| robert_ancell | Not sure where my branch went, I just rebuilt it | 21:29 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, content looks bettr | 21:30 |
| * seb128 builds | 21:30 | |
| robert_ancell | I thought for a minute you'd compiled, installed and was commenting on the window content | 21:30 |
| robert_ancell | :) | 21:30 |
| robert_ancell | super fast seb | 21:30 |
| seb128 | lol | 21:32 |
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| seb128 | robert_ancell, looks better than the old one, the bg of the arrow and password entry is white for me though, do you get that as well? | 21:51 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, no, it looks the same as U-G to me | 21:52 |
| seb128 | hum, weird | 21:52 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, do you know how to trigged the on screen keyboard on the lock screen? | 21:58 |
| robert_ancell | trigger | 21:58 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, hum ... let me look | 22:02 |
| robert_ancell | I'm not even sure if we use that | 22:02 |
| seb128 | how do you trigger it in a session? | 22:02 |
| robert_ancell | I think by enabling accessibility | 22:03 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, ah, the buttons look weird because you use radiance, not ambiance for a theem | 22:05 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, right | 22:06 |
| robert_ancell | need to tell the screensaver to not use the users theme I guess | 22:06 |
| seb128 | what's the difference between those? | 22:06 |
| seb128 | the bg color? | 22:06 |
| robert_ancell | yeah | 22:08 |
| * Sweetshark wonders: Is my source package still too big? Launchpad frequently times out when showing the /+source/libreoffice page .... | 22:26 | |
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