=== m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === rylinaux is now known as Guest28478 [05:25] Bonjour tout le monde ! [06:33] pitti, hi [08:23] hmm, does someone have Bluetooth working on up-to-date trusty? I mean, just eg. hciconfig showing something etc [08:27] ie is it just my machine or something more general. I think it was ~working last week [08:42] ok I gather it's probably just me since I have the same problem with -3 kernel too. nothing problematic in dmesg, ath3k gets loaded, it's just that from user space at least the Bluetooth seems to be not existing [08:56] Moin! [08:56] good morning desktopers! [08:56] hey Sweetshark [08:57] srly, launchpad!?! You are not being helpful https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-nattytest2/+build/5530899 [08:57] shrug [08:57] haha, it took 14 hours. not gonna tell you how it ended though. [08:58] o/ seb128 [08:58] you should ask on #ubuntu-devel or maybe ping directly wgrant/infinity/cjwatson about it [08:58] thumper, hey, how are you? [08:58] seb128, hey [08:58] seb128: pretty good, upgrading to trusty as we speak [08:58] seb128: yup. [08:58] hrm, I guess the Bluetooth problem was still something user space. installing blueman and letting it enable Bluetooth actually enabled it [08:58] * seb128 hides before thumper discovers his computer stopped working [08:59] hey darkxst [08:59] hah [08:59] seb128: sprinting next week, so it better work still [08:59] ;-) [08:59] where do you sprint? [08:59] at least I'm upgrading now and not friday night [08:59] like I have before [08:59] seb128: capetown [08:59] seb128: I will manually install the locally generated *.debs and check for the -ku and -base issues. [09:00] thumper, ok, shame, we are in London next week so I was wondering if you guys too [09:00] Sweetshark, ok, but please still ask the launchpad guys, that's not normal [09:00] nah, sorry [09:00] would like to go back to london again [09:00] seb128, are CSD's ok on gnome-ish things gnome-tweak-tool and devhelp? [09:00] although I feel next time will be passing through to and from the isle of man in july :) [09:01] darkxst, better without it, devhelp is used by Unity users as well and when I tried the Debian version is was really not working well (same for d-feet) [09:01] thumper, ;-) [09:02] darkxst, gnome-tweak-tool is ok I guess [09:02] 91% through [09:02] thumper, joke aside on trusty, I read comments on forums from unhappy unusers during holidays [09:02] thumper, they were unhappy that saucy being our current "stable" is less stable than trusty alpha1 [09:02] ;-) [09:02] seb128, ok [09:02] hah [09:03] I've not had any issues with saucy [09:03] not that leap to mind anyway [09:03] yeah, saucy is not buggy [09:03] it's just that trusty is even better, we did almost no change out of bugfixing [09:03] since everybody is busy on touch stuff [09:03] no crack for the desktop users [09:04] darkxst, you are not going to convert the world to CSD before the LTS and you are going to miss most defaults apps anyway (evince, eog, file-roller, gedit, etc) [09:05] darkxst, it doesn't feel like Ubuntu GNOME has much to win to try to increase CSD use this cycle, it's not going to be consistently used [09:06] hallo [09:06] UK is synced it seems [09:06] didrocks, JohnLea, Laney joining at the same time [09:06] Laney, good morning, how are you? [09:07] good thank you! and you? [09:07] I'm good, thanks [09:27] seb128, I don't think any of those default apps have CSD's for 3.10 [09:27] right [09:27] gnome-tweak-tool was greatly improved (apart from CSD's) [09:27] which is my point, since you are not going to have CSD in a consistent way, what's the point trying to push it for a few side apps? [09:30] seb128, I am not trying to push it for the side apps really [09:30] why do you want the new devhelp? [09:31] seb128, I figured it would have 3.8 api's in it [09:31] devhelp is a viewer, I don't think it contains APIs [09:32] you mean 3.10 right? because we have 3.8 [09:33] yes, didnt realise it was just a webview though [09:33] ok [09:34] I just looked to the 3.8->3.10 commits log, it seems mostly be CSD in the changes [09:34] that and minor tweaks/fixes [09:35] and it was mostly an example anyway, although I do want the new gnome-tweak-tool [09:35] gnome-tweak-tool is fine [09:36] and I am assuming the new apps, gnome-photos and gnome-weather are also fine? [09:37] yes [09:38] ok [09:40] bonjour seb128, ça va ? [09:40] * pitti should pay more attention to IRC :) [09:40] pitti, salut ça va bien ! (though a bit annoyed at doko now) [09:40] heh [09:41] "some of the things in the test rebuild don't build due to poppler, let's build poppler with -0O to workaround the issue rather than fix it, making our pdf rendering slower on the way" [09:41] ooh, an exciting build failure [09:41] * seb128 ponders playing revert war [09:41] pitti, et toi, comment vas-tu ? [09:41] you mean poppler itself fails, or things building against poppler are magically succeeding once you build it with -O0? [09:42] that'd be strange, but your "some" sounds like that [09:42] seb128: je vais bien aussi, en route à Belgium [09:43] massaging autopkgtest again, making nice progress on the LXC runner [09:43] pitti, cvs, gdb-doc and others fail on some tex output error [09:43] pitti, those apparently go away when rebuilding poppler with O0 [09:43] which looks like a toolchain bug to me [09:43] pitti: did allowing /dev/dsp rwm solve the python autopkgtests? [09:44] pitti: apparently the python testsuite actually tries to play some sounds while it's running ;) [09:45] stgraber: I haven't tried that yet, but I will [09:57] Sweetshark, http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite ... "... proportion of that outlay could be cut by switching to free "open-source" software, such as OpenOffice, or Google Docs ..." [10:12] EWUT. How is google docs open source, or free [for enterprises] [10:28] ogra_: lolwut [10:30] * Sweetshark sends a request for a copy of the gdoc source code. After all the gouvernment declared it open source. [10:33] focus on the positive :-) [10:34] Sweetshark, speaking about libreoffice, do you have something ready for sponsoring or do you want to wait on that ppa build retry to be done? [10:39] seb128: I dont want to wait for the ppa, but am still doing some local testing. [10:39] k [10:40] seb128: FWIW, the package is already at http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/trusty/libreoffice_4.2.0~rc4-0ubuntu1_source.changes http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/trusty/libreoffice-l10n_4.2.0~rc4-0ubuntu1_source.changes === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [11:40] fscking disco. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:18] seb128 seems to be hiding now that I want to tell him that I have no objections to sponsoring anymore ... === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:51] seb128: in case you didnt see the mail: the rc4 build should be good for sponsoring. [13:51] Sweetshark, yeah, I just saw, thanks, I'm going to do that in a bit [13:52] seb128: If that works out it will be the first time we release a major version in sync with upstream. [13:52] (IIRC) === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:38] mterry, hey, can I get a nice deja-dup integrated with Unity back in trusty? ;-) [14:40] seb128, it's in trunk! What more do you want? :) [14:41] seb128, 29.5 isn't due until next week [14:41] mterry, yeah, but trunk wants a newer duplicity than trusty :p [14:41] mterry, man, I need my crack this week, not next! [14:41] seb128, yeah... Duplicity and deja-dup need to be updated in step this time [14:42] mterry, joke aside, next week wfm, thanks ;-) [14:42] seb128, probably this weekend in truth [14:42] k [15:07] mlankhorst: afternoon! [15:08] mlankhorst: so we're trying to land mir...and gotta rebuild xserver due to client abi break...but, toolchain giving us a fit [15:08] mlankhorst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1266492 [15:08] Launchpad bug 1266492 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Trusty) "ld:i386 crashes with -static -fPIE -pie" [Critical,Triaged] [15:08] mlankhorst: can you help us ? we're stuck [15:09] kgunn: yeah.. grab this [15:09] kgunn: hm want me to upload a new rebuild to ubuntu when it's required? [15:10] sil2100: ^ [15:10] mlankhorst: well...so, this is interesting, this means i won't know if xserver/xmir is ok until after we release mir [15:10] # Add a workaround for LP: #1266492 [15:10] Launchpad bug 1266492 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Trusty) "ld:i386 crashes with -static -fPIE -pie" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266492 [15:10] mlankhorst: ideally we'd have it being built as part of the test silo [15:10] confflags += lt_cv_prog_compiler_static_works=no [15:11] meh fine I'll upload a new xorg-server explicitly.. [15:14] enjoy [15:16] http://www.hamburger-me.com/p/best-burgers-in-london-top-10.html [15:16] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/164032302/xorg-server_2%3A1.14.5-1ubuntu2_2%3A1.14.5-1ubuntu3.diff.gz [15:19] Laney, getting ready for next week? ;-) [15:19] just sharing some useful information :P [15:25] kgunn/sil2100: fixed in ubuntu [15:25] mlankhorst: thank you! sil2100 ok man....shall we try again ? [15:27] huh, trying to file a bug against firefox but ubuntu-bug claims that it's an unofficial pkg when it isn't [15:27] * Laney plays the x-files theme [15:27] on trusty [15:29] tjaalton, wfm ... what package version do you use? [15:30] uh [15:30] build2-0ubuntu0.13.10.2 [15:30] where's that from.. [15:30] err [15:30] 26.0+build2-0ubuntu0.13.10.2 [15:30] "err" ;-) [15:30] ok then [15:30] so it is an unofficial one, no idea where [15:30] > 25 are blocked in proposed due to unhappy builds on arm and ppc [15:30] that's the version in saucy, no? [15:31] ah [15:31] so if you have saucy-updates/security that's > trusty [15:31] well that's where I upgraded from === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:31] a couple of weeks ago [15:31] anyway, getting phantom tabs that can't be closed [15:33] kgunn: yes! Ok, let me rebase on it then, but it's still not ready... oh no no, we're still have a lot to go [15:33] kgunn: we're still blocked on platform-api, but it's being worked on [15:34] mlankhorst: thanks! [15:34] sil2100: ok...let me know if i need to do something or can help === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:39] mlankhorst: it seems xorg-server build for i386 failed after the upload [15:39] mlankhorst: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/2:1.14.5-1ubuntu3/+build/5534330 [15:40] sil2100: ignore [15:40] xvfb fails from time to time === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === mterry_ is now known as mterry === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [16:40] sil2100, didrocks: is libindicator under CI train yet? (how can I see the projects that got migrated to it?) [16:41] seb128: the CITrain Rampup spreadsheet indicates which projects are already migrated (the "in CI train" column) [16:42] seb128: it's migrated [16:42] sil2100, ok, filed l21 on CI train then, if you can give me a slot ;-) [16:43] Sure [16:43] thanks [16:43] I wonder if we have enough silos ;) [16:43] seems so [16:43] there are 10 and the assigned are up to 7 [16:44] seb128: silo assigned! [16:44] sil2100, thanks! [17:08] wee === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [18:17] seb128: hi! Do you know by any chance who should be the lander for ubuntu-themes? Any propositions? [18:21] sil2100, Cimi === Neptunia is now known as Neptunia-test === Neptunia-test is now known as Neptunia === Neptunia is now known as Sora-kun === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [21:06] seb128, still online :) [21:06] robert_ancell, yes! [21:07] robert_ancell, I've been slightly shifting hours again recently... :-) [21:07] robert_ancell, how are you? [21:07] not too bad [21:08] is that english for "alright but could be better"? [21:08] seb128, lp:~robert-ancell/gnome-screensaver/unity [21:08] robert_ancell, getting tired of the u-c-c transition? ;-) [21:08] oh, nice! [21:08] * seb128 goes to try that [21:08] totally :) [21:09] it didn't work the first time I installed it, but it seemed to work after a reboot [21:09] And the password field doesn't get focus for some reason [21:09] robert_ancell, btw, you still don't test your changes, I caught you! [21:09] :-) [21:09] It used to work! wtf! [21:09] the datetime panel? [21:10] yeah [21:10] before you decided to "rename" it by changing the .desktop only [21:10] I guess [21:10] reverting the .desktop change fixes it [21:11] oh, right [21:19] robert_ancell, that vcs doesn't seem to have recent changes/an UI refactoring? [21:19] it has a patch [21:19] which one? [21:19] there is no patch with > 150 lines of changes [21:20] oh. hmm [21:27] * kenvandine watches flickering seb128 :) [21:27] kenvandine, yeah, I'm on a not-so-good connection [21:27] kenvandine, how are you? [21:27] good === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [21:29] seb128, ok, try again [21:29] Not sure where my branch went, I just rebuilt it [21:30] robert_ancell, content looks bettr [21:30] * seb128 builds [21:30] I thought for a minute you'd compiled, installed and was commenting on the window content [21:30] :) [21:30] super fast seb [21:32] lol === thumper is now known as thumper-afk [21:51] robert_ancell, looks better than the old one, the bg of the arrow and password entry is white for me though, do you get that as well? [21:52] seb128, no, it looks the same as U-G to me [21:52] hum, weird [21:58] seb128, do you know how to trigged the on screen keyboard on the lock screen? [21:58] trigger [22:02] robert_ancell, hum ... let me look [22:02] I'm not even sure if we use that [22:02] how do you trigger it in a session? [22:03] I think by enabling accessibility [22:05] seb128, ah, the buttons look weird because you use radiance, not ambiance for a theem [22:06] robert_ancell, right [22:06] need to tell the screensaver to not use the users theme I guess [22:06] what's the difference between those? [22:06] the bg color? [22:08] yeah [22:26] * Sweetshark wonders: Is my source package still too big? Launchpad frequently times out when showing the /+source/libreoffice page .... === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley