[01:27] <MavKen> i hope the ldapmyadmin bug gets resolved for 13.10 or for 14.04
[02:47] <MavKen> is there a best practice on where to store the .htpasswd file?
[09:52] <yolanda_> jamespage, you there?
[09:52] <jamespage> yolanda_, yes
[09:52] <yolanda_> ok, looking at your mp comments
[09:52] <yolanda_> about creating a home directory for the user
[09:53] <yolanda_> looked at the charmhelpers call for the user
[09:53] <yolanda_> if no password is provided for the user, it doesn' create home directory
[09:53] <yolanda_> so that's why i created it directly on charm
[09:53] <yolanda_> what do you think is the best approach for it?
[10:05] <yolanda_> jamespage, sent comments on the mp
[10:11] <jamespage> yolanda_, ah
[10:11] <jamespage> yolanda_, OK - in that case I'd use the mkdir function from the core helper
[10:12] <jamespage> it does everthing you do in that function in one call
[10:12] <yolanda_> i just wrote some comments in general for the MP
[10:12] <yolanda_> also for the other topics
[10:20] <jamespage> yolanda_, ok responded
[10:21] <yolanda_> cool, i'll work on it
[11:27] <shwaiil> trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html
[11:28] <shwaiil> and it says "During the install you were prompted to define administrative credentials"
[11:28] <shwaiil> but that never happened  :i
[12:14] <rostam> hi do I have to run "/etc/init.d/networking restart" anytime I modify the /etc/network/interfaces file? thx
[12:15] <k4v> hi i would like to update php in 12.04 to the latest php 5.3 could you recommend a ppa?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> k4v, suggest you look for a php channel and ask them
[12:19] <andol> rostam: If you want the changes to come into play, yes.
[12:20] <rostam> andol,  I heard that script is becoming deprecated...
[12:20] <andol> rostam: Well, at least that is the simple answer. Depending on the change you can also get around it by using ifup, ifdown, manually running ifconfig, etc
[12:21] <andol> rostam: I guess that is possible, source?
[12:21] <rostam> andol,  how I can make sure eth0 to be default route gateway?
[12:22] <andol> rostam: Aside from having it defined in /etc/network/interfaces? Well, you can always manually set (default) route using the route command.
[12:23] <rostam> andol, do you the syntax on how to put the place it in that file please? thx
[14:01] <melter> if i run "apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork" on a fresh ubuntu server install, why does "apachectl -V" show the MPM as "event" and not "prefork"?
[14:02] <mardraum> because prefork is bad? :p
[14:11] <LeMike> hello. how do i prevent a user from leaving their home dir (like `cd / `) ?
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: http://allanfeid.com/content/creating-chroot-jail-ssh-access
[14:16] <zul> jamespage:  available for a quick review? https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/swift/1.12.0/+merge/203751
[14:16] <jamespage> zul +1
[14:18] <zul> jamespage:  thanks
[14:22] <LeMike> hitsujiTMO: can is make the pattern for a whole group? https://gist.github.com/sourcerer-mike/53bc9fdf2200cf86c9d4
[14:35] <makara> we're looking for an alternative to Hyper-V?
[14:37] <mardraum> makara: I guess since you are asking here, you have a question about qemu/kvm ?
[14:37] <makara> mardraum, well it seems kvm isn't a solution
[14:38] <makara> it just runs in ubuntu server
[14:38] <mardraum> just?
[14:38] <makara> what's the difference between this and Proxmox, SolusVM, etc
[14:38] <andol> makara: layers
[14:38] <makara> mardraum, I can't install KVM on bare metal
[14:38] <makara> OpenVZ
[14:39] <mardraum> yet you are looking for a hyperv alternative? you want some to run under windows?
[14:40] <makara> we might need to run Windows machines, yes
[14:40] <mardraum> you don't seem to know what you want.
[14:41] <andol> makara: Well, if you want to be able to run Windows VMs you'd rather have something like KVM than OpenVZ (or LXC) in the bottom.
[14:41] <makara> basically, every time I need to provision a service, I need to roll out an Ubuntu server
[14:41] <makara> we've been doing that in Hyper-V, but various issues
[14:41] <mardraum> an ubuntu vm ?
[14:42] <mardraum> or a vm host
[14:42] <makara> an ubuntu vm
[14:43] <makara> why would I need a vm host for every service?
[14:43] <mardraum> I give up. next time explain wtf you are trying to do.
[14:44] <sander^work> When doing an dist-upgrade of ubuntu 10.04.. should I choose yes when it prompts me to install grub2?
[14:44] <andol> sander^work: Unless you have a specific reason not to, yes.
[14:44] <makara> sander^work, yes, but you're better off doing a fresh install from such an old version
[14:45] <sander^work> andol, makara: I'm not upgrading the os version.. and how do I know if I already have grub2? Because thats one reason to not install it it seems.
[14:47] <makara> sander^work, then don't
[14:47] <makara> just upgrade whatever you need upgraded
[14:47] <sander^work> makara, so the safe bet is always to not install grub2?
[14:48] <makara> sander^work, you could haven't issues booting up
[14:48] <sander^work> makara, Are you saying I could have issues booting up, if I install grub2?
[14:48] <makara> actually I see it was available since 9.10
[14:49] <sander^work> makara, the default choice is "no", to not install grub2.
[14:49] <makara> just do it
[14:49] <makara> it'll be a learning experience
[14:49] <makara> what you got running on the server?
[14:50] <makara> will you be able to boot from a live CD if something goes wrong?
[14:50] <makara> or ISO or network?
[14:50] <sander^work> makara, I dont want neceserry downtime on it.
[15:04] <makara> ok, so if I choose not to run anything other than linux distros, what are the pros and cons of OpenVZ vs KVM on Debian Wheezy?
[15:05] <Pici> makara: try #debian for that
[15:05] <makara> sorry
[15:05] <makara> I meant Ubuntu Server
[15:21] <thebwt> Can a ethernet device be specified in UFW directives?
[15:30] <melter> mardraum: bugzilla requires prefork apache
[15:30] <mardraum> time to stop using bugzilla :P
[15:31] <jdstrand> thebwt: yes, with the extended syntax. eg 'sudo ufw allow in on eth0 to any port 22' (see man ufw for details)
[15:35] <zul> jamespage:  i think the .testr.conf is misconfigured for neutron
[15:35] <zul> i have a test that im going to be trying out
[15:38] <thebwt> jdstrand: you da man, sorry for man-fail
[15:39] <zul> jamespage:  this is the theory http://paste.ubuntu.com/6838440/
[15:39] <jdstrand> np
[15:41] <roadmr> hello folks! is this the right place to ask about/report problems with one of the ubuntu cloud images? (saucy cloud image for vagrant is broken)
[15:43] <rbasak> roadmr: yes, this is the right place.
[15:44] <roadmr> rbasak: thanks! something seems wrong with the virtualbox guest modules on that image (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/saucy/current/saucy-server-cloudimg-i386-vagrant-disk1.box). Attempts to access /vagrant once the VM is up result in kernel oopses and no access
[15:44] <roadmr> rbasak: FWIW, both raring and trusty images work fine
[15:45] <roadmr> rbasak: this is easy to reproduce using a simple vagrant file and, say, a trusty host system, I can file a bug with a repro case if needed
[15:46] <rbasak> utlemming: ^^
[16:46] <yolanda_> jamespage, comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/charms/precise/rabbitmq-server/ha/+merge/203062
[18:31] <genii> !cve
[18:31] <genii> Hm.
[18:32] <genii> !usn
[18:32] <genii> Ah, there it is.
[18:34] <rostam> Hi I am setting up a local mirror using debmirror. There is a python pkg, autobhn which I install it manually using "pip install autobhn" How could I include that in my local mirror using debmirror? thx
[18:37] <UchM0nd> can anyone give me good guide how to setup pptp server on ubuntu
[18:38] <sarnold> rostam: debmirror will mirror just debian packages. if pip uses http to download the packages, you might be able to cache it with squid, but it wouldn't be a self-contained mirror ... you might also be able to find a pip mirroring tool
[18:44] <UchM0nd> around 400 people here and no one can help me..
[18:44] <sheptard> UchM0nd: 0 results on google?
[18:45] <roadmr> UchM0nd: does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer
[18:45] <UchM0nd> :D no but i want really tested guide
[18:45] <rostam> sarnold, thank you
[18:45] <UchM0nd> ok thnx
[18:46] <sarnold> UchM0nd: I'm skeptical of the ms-dns lines in this thing, but here's a guide :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer
[18:46] <roadmr> UchM0nd: you're welcome! I just googled "ubuntu pptp server", it was the first match. If you have specific questions feel free to ask here
[18:49] <jrwren> I want a really tested guide too. Please write one for me. :p
[18:52] <UchM0nd> :P sorry i just realized it was pretty stupid question to ask :D
[18:53] <sarnold> UchM0nd: it's true it would have been better if it had been followed with, ".. the one I found had funny instructions" or ".. I have trouble finding one recent enough to trust" or similar :D but oh well, hehe
[18:57] <smoser> hallyn, i sent a mail to lxc-devel. (lxc-ubuntu-cloud: various small changes)
[18:57] <smoser> lxc pretty much "just worked" on my ppc64el system.
[18:58] <smoser> the only issue was cloud-image-utils wont install because qemu-utils not available yet
[19:00] <hallyn> smoser: ok.
[19:01] <hallyn> jodh: say,
[19:01] <hallyn> jodh: eh, nm, this is getting into dbus- rather than libnih- territory.
[19:01] <hallyn> well, i'lla sk anyway: jodh: do you know how to tell dbus to request negotiation of fd passing?
[19:03] <jodh> hallyn: no sorry.
[19:31] <hallyn> smoser: we don't see any email on the list yet...
[19:31] <hallyn> smoser: which list did you send it to?  the sf.net list no longer exists...
[19:37] <smoser> hallyn, there. that looks better.
[19:37] <smoser> my git send email
[19:37] <smoser> was not updated
[19:37] <smoser> should get there now.
[19:38] <zerick> Is Apache 2.4 by default only accepting *.conf files for virtualhosts or is a customization of Ubuntu?
[19:42] <hallyn> smoser: thx;  we're walking out now, but will look later from my room
[19:49] <smoser> hallyn, k. should be simple enough
[19:50] <smoser> , 14 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
[20:03] <jrwren> zerick: iirc it is a debian/ubuntu thing. see apache.conf instead of Include conf.d/* it says conf.d/*.conf
[20:05] <zerick> jrwren, since apache 2.4.6 is ignoring the include on apache2.conf
[20:08] <jrwren> that has not been my experience
[20:11] <zerick> up to this version, actually, in recognizes, only for new symlinks, the *.conf extensions, I see it preserves older links (which makes sense, though)
[20:20] <semiosis> [MIR] Glusterfs - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glusterfs/+bug/1274247 -- ping me if I can be of assistance
[20:24] <LrdArc> how can i set email forwarding with sendmail on webmin?
[20:33] <genii> !webmin
[20:35] <semiosis> also fwiw if you're not already familiar with sendmail, you might want to try using postfix instead -- it's much nicer imho
[20:36] <LrdArc> but i don't see postfix option on webmin
[20:37] <semiosis> my advice, drop webmin, drop sendmail.  postfix docs are good & the config files are easy enough to edit.
[20:37] <LrdArc> also it's nice to have gui panel to control the server, is ubuntu server has another panel like webmin that is official supported?
[20:38] <semiosis> idk
[20:42] <rewtraw> anyone have experiance running a highly available iSCSI SAN on ubuntu/linux?
[20:42] <rewtraw> gluster is perfect, but mostly for NFS
[20:42] <rewtraw> need iSCSI
[20:44] <sheptard> wonder if you could put drbd on the block device
[20:45] <sheptard> then share it out via your favourite iscsi target
[20:45] <sheptard> however with some thinking that might be less than ideal
[20:45] <rewtraw> yeah, drbd seems to be the best option
[21:05] <genii> LrdArc: I believe the recommended one currently is Zentyal
[21:05] <genii> !info zentyal
[21:05] <genii> Hm.
[21:05] <genii> !info ebox
[21:06] <genii> Double Hm.
[21:38] <pmatulis> !info zentyal-common
[21:38] <pmatulis> zentyal-* (users, dns, etc)
[21:42] <Rick129> Hi. I really don't understand the load average of htop. What counts towards the load average? On my 8 core, 32gb ram server I have sometimes >8 load average although cpu usage is only 40-50%. Why is that?
[21:43] <Pici> Rick129: "System load averages is the average number of processes that are either in a runnable or  uninterruptable  state.   A process in a runnable state is either using the CPU or waiting to use the CPU.  A process in uninterruptable state is waiting for some I/O access, eg waiting for disk.  The averages are taken over the three time intervals.  Load  averages  are  not  normalized  for  the  number of CPUs in a system, so ...
[21:43] <Pici> ... a load average of 1 means a single CPU system is loaded all the time while on a 4 CPU system it means it was idle 75% of the time."
[21:43] <Pici> from `man uptime`
[21:44] <Rick129> Pici: thanks. So when only one 1 core is 100% and load is >5 this is most likely disk IO?
[21:45] <Rick129> -one
[21:46] <Pici> Rick129: yes, high load usually points to some sort of IO issue.
[21:47] <Pici> rather, when load > cores
[21:50] <Rick129> Pici: do you know how I can debug IO issues?
[21:52] <Pici> Rick129: Thats a pretty big question.  You can use things like iotop to help figure out where the bottlenecks are, but solving them can be tricky.
[21:53] <Rick129> Pici: thank you. I have 2 VMs via KVM running, but they should't use a lot of IO. Weird. Guess I have to do a little bit of research
[21:56] <semiosis> general answer to "how do i solve io problems?" is "use SSD" imho ;)
[21:57] <semiosis> Rick129: check the cpu wait time %wa in top -- that indicates processes waiting for io
[22:13] <gkoh374> καλησπέρα
[22:13] <gkoh374> υπάρχει κάποιος που μπορεί να με βοηθήσει?
[22:16] <gkoh374> καλησπέρα
[22:16] <gkoh374> υπάρχει κάποιος που μπορεί να με βοηθήσει?
[22:16] <genii> !gr
[22:17] <gkoh374> thanks
[22:18] <gkoh374> still can you help me with something?
[22:19] <genii> gkoh374: Just ask your question to the channel in general, someone may know the anser and assist you :)
[22:23] <gkoh374> i plugin the hdmi but there's "no signal" and ubuntu cant detect the tv
[22:24] <gkoh374> i searched all over the internet but i couldnt find a solution
[22:24] <gkoh374> i have updated, installed 3rd party repo
[22:25] <gkoh374> and i have 13.10
[22:26] <gkoh374> just ask for more infos because i dont know what else is relevant
[22:59] <paco11> hi folks!
[22:59] <paco11> in bind9, can i put in the same file any domains which have the same public ip? (public ip by a web hosting company). thanks!
[23:04] <genii> zones
[23:05] <paco11> so, if i have 10 differents domains, i'm able to create 10 db zone files?
[23:07] <semiosis> paco11: have you tried it?
[23:07] <semiosis> you should try it
[23:07] <paco11> to create the 10 db zone files?
[23:08] <semiosis> or just two
[23:10] <paco11> i have to point to: test.com| test.net | test1.com | test1.net | exemple.com | exemple.net | etc...
[23:13] <genii> paco11: Might want to consult https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto for examples
[23:14]  * genii checks to see if it's Beer O'Clock yet