[02:12] <UbuntuDroid> Hi guys I'm hoping someone can help me. I'm trying to install ubuntu touch dual boot on my phone but it says device not support when using the dual boot installer
[02:12] <UbuntuDroid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation This is the guide I'm using
[02:12] <cwayne> UbuntuDroid, which device are you trying?
[02:13] <UbuntuDroid> Trying it one the Sprint Galaxy S4, it is in active development on the international S4 same processor though.
[02:14] <UbuntuDroid> I know the device is unsupported at current  but I would like to try building it as an alpha/tester hence why im trying to use dual boot
[02:15] <UbuntuDroid> Here is the current thread for the International S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
[02:19] <UbuntuDroid> Any ideas, on how to use the dualboot.sh script on an unsupported device?
[02:20] <cwayne> hmm, not sure
[02:20] <cwayne> it tries to pull the images from system-image, which wouldn't work on an unsupported device
[02:20] <cwayne> sorry :(
[02:22] <UbuntuDroid> It works in the I9505 varient though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2564187
[02:30] <UbuntuDroid> Anyone know how I could edit the script to install  on unsupported devices? i would be willing to contribute to the project as much as possible I just need to be able to dual boot.
[03:03] <UbuntuDroid> Can anyone help get the dualboot script working on unsupported devices????
[03:08] <pablovid> hola
[03:09] <pablovid> como estan
[03:09] <pablovid> como puedo instalar ubuntu en mi celular
[04:05] <compaq> hello
[04:05] <compaq> can i ask?
[04:05] <compaq> i have a broken os android tablet smartphone
[04:05] <compaq> china made
[04:05] <compaq> it failed boot or bootloop
[04:09] <compaq> what i ask is... can i install ubuntu on that tablet that cannot boot to system
[05:22] <cpatrick08> I ran sudo phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel trusty-proposed --bootstrap on my grouper tablet and I am stuck on CWM-based Recovery v6.0.2.8 and INFO:phablet-flash:Waiting for recovery image to boot
[06:00] <UbuntuDroid> HI guys anyone willing to try helping me get Ubuntu Touch installed dual boot on the Galaxy S4?
[06:08] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: any progress on the N5 image? especial sound would be great :)
[06:10] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: can I support somewhere? Do you need logfiles, or anything else? Regarding the wifi-interface issue (each reboot new mac address) I mounted the missing partition to /persist via fstab but I think it is mounted after it tries to set up wifi. so I still have that problem. If you need more information, just tell me.#
[06:11] <UbuntuDroid> Does anyone have any idea how I can edit the dualboot.sh file to get it to work on non supported devices
[06:44] <UbuntuDroid> installing now on sprint s4!!!!
[08:45] <IThe> Ciao
[08:50] <IThe> Ciao
[09:15] <rsalveti> mind checking https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/powerd/adding_device_configs_flo_hammerhead/+merge/203644 ?
[09:15] <rsalveti> ogra_: just adding config for flo and hammerhead
[09:15] <FuLgOrE> hi rsalveti. any updates regarding the N5?
[09:15] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: is that related to the wifi-issue on N5?
[09:15] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE: not yet, but one yesterday, so should be able to better debug it
[09:16] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE: that's just for auto-brightness
[09:16] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE: I know what is wrong with the wlan error, will try to push a fix later today
[09:16] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: ah, I see. If you need somebody to test it, I can do that later
[09:17] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: in around 3 hours I will be available for any N5 tests
[09:17] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: any infos about the sound problem?
[09:17] <ogra_> rsalveti, happroved
[09:17] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE: not yet
[09:17] <rsalveti> ogra_: thanks
[09:19] <FuLgOrE> [22:05] <Tassadar> FuLgOrE: if you know how to change kernel command line in boot.img, you can also speed up the boot - replace "console=ttyHS0something" with "console=tty0"
[09:20] <FuLgOrE> this is an info from yesterday. to change that should help to fix the long booting time
[09:20] <FuLgOrE> but I'm not sure how to change kernel command line.
[09:21] <FuLgOrE> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/28/%23ubuntu-touch.txt
[09:25] <rsalveti> right, will check
[09:27] <FuLgOrE> thx
[09:31] <ogra_> mandel, http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/mako/151:20140129:20140115.1/6324/ see notes app
[09:39] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: I mounted the missing mmc-device via fstab to /persist. this didn't fix wifi issue. now the correct path is available but I think it is mounted to late.
[09:41] <FuLgOrE> I still get this error:
[09:41] <FuLgOrE> [    1.798620] bcm_wifi_get_mac_addr: Failed to get information from file /persist/wifi/.macaddr (-2)
[09:41] <FuLgOrE> and .macaddr exists
[10:03] <mandel> ogra_, read cpp => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/fix-cast/+merge/203692
[10:21] <OrokuSaki> Sup fellas! Ogra.. stuff.. Can we use KitKat yet?
[10:21] <OrokuSaki> HP TOuchpad has a 3.0 kernel now with KitKat
[10:26] <OrokuSaki> @ogra beep =)
[10:31] <ogra_> OrokuSaki, there was a mail on the ML
[10:31] <OrokuSaki> Oh... a mailing list
[10:31] <OrokuSaki> How you been
[10:31] <OrokuSaki> =)
[10:32] <OrokuSaki> Haven't talked to you since the saucy party
[10:32] <ogra_> busy indeed ...
[10:32] <OrokuSaki> I read kitkat was at the end of jan or something
[10:32] <ogra_> the core team is in london atm ... working on enabling hammerhead and flo devices
[10:32] <OrokuSaki> exus 5
[10:32] <OrokuSaki> nod
[10:32] <ogra_> (thought hammmerhead (N5) wont be supported)
[10:33] <OrokuSaki> Oh well. I don't have Nexus stuff... Looking forward to KitKat porting
[10:33] <OrokuSaki> I am even making a crappy 10.1 rom with this 3.0 kernel.. it is really buggy.. but maybe I can use the graphic libs =)
[10:34] <OrokuSaki> You think its possible to use hybris in Ubuntu Desktop armhf?
[10:34] <ogra_> techically yes, but it wont gain you much
[10:34] <OrokuSaki> take over the EGL with hybris.. configure lightdm for surface flinger...
[10:34] <ogra_> (X wont use it ... Mir only supports unity8 currently)
[10:35] <OrokuSaki> I am on Unity9 I think.. latest trusty desktop which is a pain
[10:35] <OrokuSaki> last armhf desktop image was 12 or something
[10:35] <OrokuSaki> not too bad of a pain.. NOT LIKE WRITING AN OS. =)
[10:36] <OrokuSaki> Anyways I thought I would see what happens
[10:36] <OrokuSaki> See if it at least tries to run surface flinger with Mir
[10:37] <ogra_> they are mutually exclusive
[10:37] <ogra_> Mir replaces SF
[10:37] <OrokuSaki> Without an lxc container... oh... I was wondering that.. I remember we switched
[10:37] <OrokuSaki> I will ping ya tomorrow when I get to that. =)
[10:37] <ogra_> without LXC container you dont need hybris
[10:37] <ogra_> it is the lib that hooks into the container
[10:38] <OrokuSaki> oh.. so how does it know where surfaceflinger is?
[10:38] <OrokuSaki> hard coaded?
[10:38] <ogra_> we dont use SF anymore
[10:38] <OrokuSaki> ok ok
[10:38] <OrokuSaki> =)
[10:38] <ogra_> and i think unity8 stopped supporting it
[10:38] <ogra_> (so you wouldnt get any UI)
[10:39] <OrokuSaki> I did get a test_gles working at some point.. See what happens.. I notice unity still supports SF.. I will try both.. Though how does Mir get its graphics driver without hybris?
[10:40] <OrokuSaki> Or maybe.. Mir has hybris stuff inside of it... strange
[10:40] <rsalveti> ogra_: still supports it, but it won't be supporting it for long anymore
[10:40] <OrokuSaki> nod
[10:40] <rsalveti> ogra_: currently we just have a bug at the qtubuntu package that ricmm is going to fix
[10:40] <ogra_> rsalveti, hmm, i get a black screen in SF mode
[10:40] <ogra_> ah
[10:40] <rsalveti> ogra_: right, but that's build bug with qtubuntu
[10:40] <ogra_> yep
[10:41] <OrokuSaki> Ubuntu Desktop would be neat with EGL drivers for tablets. =)
[10:41] <OrokuSaki> Or wait on freedreno I guess.
[10:42] <ogra_> the old unity7/compiz has support for EGL on the desktop (on arm at least)
[10:42] <ogra_> the pandaboard and netxus7 desktop images used it
[10:42] <OrokuSaki> GLES Unity7?
[10:43] <ogra_> yes
[10:43] <OrokuSaki> no GLES with Unity8?
[10:43] <ogra_> unity8 is GLES only
[10:43] <ogra_> unity7 was Gl and GLES
[10:43] <OrokuSaki> And EGL offers GLES?
[10:44] <OrokuSaki> Say yes!
[10:44] <OrokuSaki> =)
[10:44] <ogra_> EGL and GLES are kind of the same thing
[10:44] <OrokuSaki> lol.. I should not ask questions I know I won't understand the answers to.. my bad =)
[10:48] <FuLgOrE> so, now I'm available to test something on N5, if somebody needs something tested
[10:55] <timp> ogra_: egl is used to set up a gl(es) environment, so I think you can compare it to for example glx, not gles
[10:56] <ogra_> OrokuSaki, ^^
[10:58] <timp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EGL_(API) :)
[11:07] <abtekk> Hey guys. Anyone knows when the 4.4.2 base sources are due to be pushed?
[11:11] <rsalveti> abtekk: hopefully later today
[11:13] <abtekk> Oh wow, thanks R.
[11:19] <lool> rsalveti: could you confirm this kernel works with enough memory?  http://people.dooz.org/~lool/ubuntu-kernel
[11:26] <lool> sr
[11:26] <lool> rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6837318/
[11:28] <rsalveti> lool: cool
[11:53] <xnox> rsalveti: where is kitkat trees? is it just phablet-trusty these days?
[11:53] <xnox> i.e. how to do a repo checkout?
[11:54] <ogra_> xnox, not public yet
[11:54] <rsalveti> xnox: can't yet, will be uploading it later today
[11:54] <xnox> rsalveti: ah ok.
[11:54] <xnox> =)
[11:54] <rsalveti> and it'll be with gerrit
[12:19] <mhr3> didrocks, copied to destination == rdy to click "merge and clean"?
[12:33] <FuLgOrE> do you guys also have the problem that you see the "empty battery" sign when the battery is fully charged?
[12:37] <boiko> Laney: hi, I have just approved your MR, but I didn't top approve it, feel free to do that once the other changes are ready to land
[12:37] <Laney> boiko: yay, thanks
[12:40] <rsalveti> slangasek: hm, did you break the original grouper bootloader? maybe because of the partition changes?
[12:40] <rsalveti> slangasek: can't update the bootloader with the one from 4.4
[12:43] <davmor2> FuLgOrE: I think it is  abug in the battery refresh, if it is low when you start charging it doesn't seem to update from the low level, if it is closer to being full when you put it on charge it only shows  a full battery with the charging icon.
[12:46] <FuLgOrE> I will keep an eye on it
[12:54] <sil2100> tvoss: hi!
[12:55] <sil2100> tvoss: could you take a look at this? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/164021289/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-armhf.platform-api_0.20%2B14.04.20140129-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:58] <Toxina> o Ubuntu Phone é compatível com o samsung galaxy  ace GT-S5830L ??
[13:00] <FuLgOrE> !devices
[13:01] <Toxina> obrigado !!
[13:02] <tvoss> sil2100, wanna jump over real quick?
[13:04] <sil2100> tvoss: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-005
[13:09] <FuLgOrE> is it possible to mount something earlier that it happens with fstab?
[13:09] <FuLgOrE> or is there another fstab in the bootloader?
[13:09] <slangasek> rsalveti: haha, um
[13:10] <slangasek> rsalveti: I don't remember if I ever changed the partitions on that one, *because* the partition table is so badly corrupted wrt the GPT standard
[13:10] <slangasek> rsalveti: so I'm pretty sure I didn't
[13:12] <didrocks> mhr3: no, I just changed the message to be more clear
[13:12] <didrocks> mhr3: it's "migrating to destination"
[13:12] <didrocks> mhr3: then, you click merge and clean once it's in the release pocket (otherwise, it will tell you it's not yet)
[13:12] <didrocks> mhr3: so, generally, a couple of hours should be fine
[13:13] <mhr3> didrocks, ah, why is that step manual again?
[13:13] <didrocks> mhr3: because we want you to own the landing and know exactly when stuff landed
[13:13] <didrocks> mhr3: also, there are a lot of cases where this can fails
[13:13] <didrocks> like, being blocked in NEW
[13:13] <didrocks> or UNAPPROVED
[13:13] <didrocks> or stuck in proposed
[13:14] <didrocks> so analyzing are needed in those cases
[13:14] <mhr3> didrocks, right, but once it does land in release it's safe to merge
[13:14] <didrocks> right, but being systematic will ensure you don't forget to look at the status
[13:14] <didrocks> and won't "fire build and forget"
[13:14] <didrocks> (and keep the lock if things are stuck)
[13:16] <mhr3> it would actually release the lock sooner for the cases where it succeeds, and for cases when it fails you need to be watching it eitherway
[13:16] <didrocks> mhr3: right, but you will then assume everything is always fine
[13:16] <didrocks> (what we saw with daily releases)
[13:16] <didrocks> (not you as *you*, of course)
[13:17] <mhr3> you won't, cause the new code won't get to trunk
[13:17] <didrocks> yeah, but if you look at trunk few days afterwards, it's already too late
[13:17] <didrocks> so better to be systematic and having one process
[13:18] <didrocks> (and come on, you just have 2 buttons to press to push something and merge for the whole process)
[13:18] <didrocks> it's not like if you have to do 10 things for this
[13:18] <mhr3> yes, and one of them is extra :P
[13:18] <didrocks> not extra, it's consistent
[13:18] <didrocks> imagine as well it's in the release pocket BUT we can't merge back
[13:18] <didrocks> because you pushed a conflict directly to trunk
[13:18] <mardy> dpm: hi! I'm having a look at the Reminders app, to create a branch which uses the online accounts trusted helper
[13:18] <didrocks> same, won't be noticed until you look at trunk
[13:19] <mhr3> didrocks, ok, i thought that can't really happen
[13:19] <mardy> dpm: should I build the debian package or the click one?
[13:19] <didrocks> mhr3: shouldn't, but… well, people happen to do mistakes (on purpose or not)
[13:19] <mhr3> didrocks, i'd just --overwrite :P
[13:19] <didrocks> ahah
[13:20] <didrocks> bad bad mhr3 ;)
[13:20] <didrocks> mhr3: one case is launchpad translations
[13:20] <didrocks> (but that shouldn't conflict though)
[13:28] <rsalveti> slangasek: hm, interesting then
[13:28] <rsalveti> slangasek: fastboot just fails to update the bootloader
[13:29] <Tassadar> on n7?
[13:30] <Tassadar> anyway, rsalveti: is gerrit in here ready/is it going to be soon - code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com ?
[13:34] <rsalveti> Tassadar: yup, yeah, will announce it to the ml once the code is published
[13:34] <Tassadar> cool, thanks
[13:35] <Tassadar> if that bootloader issue is on the old N7, then the problem might be that bootloaders in google's factory images are invalid since 4.3 (I think)
[13:36] <rsalveti> Tassadar: yeah, just saw that
[13:36] <rsalveti> which is annoying
[13:36] <FuLgOrE> one question about the volume buttons in UT. do they only control the volume or do they have an other function as well (zoom in the camera app e.g.)?
[13:36] <rsalveti> I think currently they are only controlling the volume buttons
[13:37] <FuLgOrE> ok. thats working on N5 :)
[13:50] <chrisward> Hello all, I'm having some issues compiling, (http://pastie.org/private/h8mt5lwszcrom7btdj340g) it seems there are things in a few of the glib files which the compiler doesn't recognise. It is a freshly cloned repo yielding this error, any thoughts?
[13:54] <shiggitay> Herro
[13:55] <sil2100> tvoss: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/164027238/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-armhf.platform-api_0.20%2B14.04.20140129.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[13:57] <tvoss> pitti, can you help here? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/164027238/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-armhf.platform-api_0.20%2B14.04.20140129.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:06] <dpm> hi mardy, just came back from lunch. Awesome! Perhaps I'd say the click package, but either would work
[14:09] <shiggitay> rsalveti, hello if you're here
[14:10]  * shiggitay pokes rsalveti in the eye
[14:11] <rsalveti> shiggitay: yup :-)
[14:11] <shiggitay> hahah yo
[14:11] <shiggitay> FuLgOrE was telling me of the advancements you've made with UT
[14:11] <shiggitay> I'mma restore my backup soon and then update to play with what's new :)
[14:12] <shiggitay> I'm here for a few hours before I go to bed if you're working on it at the moment with any changes.
[14:13] <rsalveti> right, still didn't upload a new image, but will soon
[14:13] <shiggitay> okay
[14:14] <shiggitay> FuLgOrE mentioined to me that MIR works now?
[14:14] <shiggitay> so smoother performance vs SF alone/
[14:14] <shiggitay> ?
[14:14] <FuLgOrE> right :)
[14:14] <FuLgOrE> very smooth
[14:14] <shiggitay> stable?
[14:14] <elopio> oSoMoN: ping. rhuddie and I want to start writing some tests for the webbrowser and the webcontainer. But we have some questions. Are you here?
[14:16] <FuLgOrE> the preview work now, everything is more smooth than with SF and after an update (apt get) it looks more nice because the dpi is newly adjusted
[14:16] <shiggitay> awesome
[14:16] <shiggitay> once my transcodes are done I'm all over it
[14:19] <shiggitay> Hmm rsalveti question for ya:
[14:19] <shiggitay> since my GPad 8.3 is also an ARM7 device, would these images work on it?
[14:19] <shiggitay> that way I wouldn't have to mess with my phone
[14:20] <shiggitay> though ultimately I'd want my phone to have UT on it too
[14:21] <shiggitay> ot
[14:21] <shiggitay> er
[14:21] <shiggitay> it's basically an 8.3" version of my N5, but with a Snapdragon 600 vs my N5's SD 800 (same amount of RAM though)
[14:21] <tvoss> pitti, you around?
[14:23] <shiggitay> ARMv7.. sorry
[14:23] <rsalveti> well, you'd need to port it
[14:23] <shiggitay> okay so how it is right now I can't just use the starter image we used for the N5 and simply image it to the tablet?
[14:24] <rsalveti> not from the binaries, you'd need to build the android side with the right changes that I'll be uploading later today
[14:24] <shiggitay> ah cool
[14:24] <shiggitay> ok
[14:25] <pitti> tvoss: hey
[14:25] <shiggitay> wait, for generic ARMv7 devices, for the LG GPad 8.3 specifically? (re: what you'll upload later today)
[14:25] <shiggitay> @ rsalveti
[14:25] <shiggitay> or for*
[14:25] <rsalveti> for the nexus devices, and generic if your device is android compatible as well
[14:26] <rsalveti> but you'd need to do some basic porting as well
[14:26] <shiggitay> hmm
[14:26] <shiggitay> someone on the XDA forums is interested in porting to this tablet... sooo I'll let him know
[14:26] <shiggitay> skay or w/e
[14:26] <shiggitay> is his user
[14:26] <davmor2> shiggitay: you would need to port ubuntu touch to your tablet the images are specific per device.
[14:26] <shiggitay> ok
[14:26] <sil2100> tvoss: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-005/+build/5534151
[14:26] <shiggitay> thanks davmor2  :)
[14:27] <davmor2> shiggitay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[14:28] <shiggitay> also rsalveti would I just be able to flash the android bits, then boot and recovery and then boot into recovery and restore my backup so I can added the changes you made?
[14:28] <shiggitay> davmor2, yeah I have that bookmarked I believe
[14:28] <shiggitay> well android bits / system / boot / recovery
[14:29] <shiggitay> and davmor2 I'll be working with the dev / person interested in porting to the GPad hopefully soon... though my role is mostly going to be testing and so on.
[14:29] <shiggitay> add*
[14:29] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: just one question regarding the wifi-bug in the N5 image. Do you know a way how to mount /persist early enough so that I can keep my mac address?
[14:30] <shiggitay> lol
[14:30] <ybon> Humm, I've disabled Dash online search through settings, but now I'm enable to reactivate it again (blank screen in settings). Anyone know how to reactivate it from command line? Or how to get click applications available to install elsewhere?
[14:30] <shiggitay> married to our MAC address eh @ FuLgOrE
[14:30] <shiggitay> lol jk
[14:30] <shiggitay> your*
[14:31] <ogra_> FuLgOrE, it is fixed in the archive already ... i'lll provide an updated zip with the fix soon
[14:31] <FuLgOrE> hey great
[14:31] <shiggitay> sweet
[14:31] <FuLgOrE> shiggitay: I prefer a fixed mac address, so yes, I'm maybe married to our mac address. If you prefer mac address on-boot-stand, just keep your image :D
[14:32] <shiggitay> XD
[14:32] <FuLgOrE> *one
[14:32] <shiggitay> I was really only kidding but ok :P
[14:32] <shiggitay> Hmm I wonder if this'd make it easier to port UT to older devices like the HP TouchPad
[14:35] <shiggitay> anyone here know of jshafer817? He attempted to port UT to the HP TouchPad
[14:36] <shiggitay> he was attempting to port 13.10
[14:38] <tvoss> sil2100, can you ping me the ppa address?
[14:38] <shiggitay> Also regarding the recovery stuff... can you possibly use TWRP Recovery vs ClockWorkMod?
[14:39] <sil2100> tvoss: yes, one moment
[14:39] <sil2100> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-005/+packages
[14:39] <sil2100> tvoss: here's the PPA - I still didn't rebuild the location-service with the disabled tests though, want to do it all at once
[14:43] <kenvandine> bfiller, i proposed a branch against your gallery as click branch which adds the bits needed for the content-hub click hook
[14:44] <kenvandine> bfiller, however... i can't get gallery to run as a click package
[14:45] <kenvandine> bfiller, i removed gallery-app and installed the gallery click package
[14:45] <kenvandine> it doesn't show up in the shell and i can't start it with upstart-app-launch
[14:45] <bfiller> kenvandine: did you build it on armhf?
[14:45] <kenvandine> yup
[14:45] <kenvandine> on the device
[14:46] <bfiller> kenvandine: I'll give it a try today, it was working last time I tried it
[14:46] <kenvandine> upstart-app-launch com.ubuntu.gallery_gallery_2.9.1.908
[14:46] <kenvandine> does nothing... and no logs
[14:47] <kenvandine> i don't know how to figure out why upstart is failing to start it
[14:49] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE: we tried the change to mount it earlier during the boot, will test once the package gets published in the archive
[14:50] <bfiller> kenvandine: wasn't it working yesterday for you?
[14:51] <kenvandine> not with gallery
[14:52] <kenvandine> i was using my hub-exporter as a test
[14:52] <kenvandine> that works for the hub
[14:52] <bfiller> kenvandine: ok
[14:52] <kenvandine> i can't run gallery on it's own even, not just from the hub
[14:52] <bfiller> kenvandine: I will build the click and try it
[14:52] <kenvandine> i gotta step out for a bit, bbs
[14:53] <bfiller> sergiusens: you have any time today to build the gallery click branch and test with content-hub branch that has click support?
[14:53] <bfiller> sergiusens: I'm going to try as well but could another tester
[14:53] <bfiller> then we can land this stuff
[14:54] <FuLgOrE> rsalveti: sounds good. just tell me when it's published and I will try it directly!
[14:54] <sergiusens> bfiller, sure, sounds good
[14:54] <bfiller> sergiusens: thanks
[14:55] <shiggitay> rsalveti, me too.. I'm about to restore my backup and then apply the new changes XD
[14:56] <ogra_> everything but the MAC address stuff should be in the zip, i re-generated it this morning ...
[14:56] <oSoMoN> elopio, hey, I’m here
[14:56] <ogra_> just waiting for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc-android-config/0.134/+build/5534147
[14:56] <rsalveti> sure
[14:57] <shiggitay> awesome
[14:57] <elopio> hey oSoMoN. First, we are wondering if now that we are using a lot of code from chromium, ins't their web driver available for us to use?
[14:57] <shiggitay> rsalveti and ogra_ let FuLgOrE and I know when we can apply those changes
[14:57] <shiggitay> and is it as simple as applying a zip from recovery?
[14:58] <shiggitay> applying/flashing
[14:58] <ogra_> shiggitay, yes, as i said, i updated the zip already and will re-roll it once the package above is done and in the archive
[14:58] <shiggitay> okay
[14:58] <ogra_> just flash the new zip and you should be fine
[14:58] <shiggitay> mmkay
[14:59] <FuLgOrE> you're great! :)
[14:59] <shiggitay> y'all rock
[14:59] <shiggitay> Is there a splash screen yet? or just a blank screen and then all of a sudden the UI?
[14:59] <FuLgOrE> just a google logo until the "lockscreen" starts
[14:59] <shiggitay> okay
[14:59] <oSoMoN> elopio, that’s a good question, I need to
[14:59] <oSoMoN> check
[15:01] <FuLgOrE> as soon as the new image is out, I will again post log files. what exactly would you like to get (dmesg, logcat ifconfig -a, /var/log/, ...)?
[15:02] <FuLgOrE> btw. no splash, just the startup messages would look very nice :D
[15:03] <shiggitay> okay grabbing my phone
[15:05] <shiggitay> backing up my current KK layout again
[15:05] <FuLgOrE> where should I put the zip-file to access to it via recovery? /sdcard doesn't exist right now
[15:06] <FuLgOrE> or maybe it exists, once i'm in the bootloader and I use adb push
[15:08] <shiggitay> FuLgOrE, haha
[15:11] <FuLgOrE> okay, building finished. where can we download it?
[15:12] <shiggitay> damnit TWRP... backup faster lol
[15:14] <FuLgOrE> ogra_: do you have a download link? building finished
[15:14] <shiggitay> ok backup done
[15:14] <ogra_> FuLgOrE, heh, building finished doesnt mean it propagated to the archive
[15:14] <ogra_> patience :)
[15:14] <FuLgOrE> ... that's hard... ;)
[15:14] <shiggitay> that's not what she said
[15:15] <ogra_> FuLgOrE, the link is still the same, i'll just replace the zip you used too install initially
[15:15] <FuLgOrE> so that one:
[15:15] <FuLgOrE> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-touch-4.4.2-mir.rootfs-armhf.zip
[15:15] <ogra_> yeah, i'll ping once it is done
[15:15] <FuLgOrE> perfect :)
[15:15] <FuLgOrE> thx
[15:17] <cwayne> mterry, ping
[15:17] <mterry> cwayne, hello
[15:24] <rsalveti> didrocks: tvoss: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/platform-api/kitkat-porting/+merge/202599
[15:26] <greyback_> tedg: ping
[15:31] <abtekk> rsalveti, and word on a new 4.4 build from you?
[15:31] <abtekk> any*
[15:34] <elopio> oSoMoN_: sorry, I was on a meeting.
[15:34] <elopio> what we need is a way to introspect the web page, to check things like dialogs.
[15:35] <elopio> the web driver would be perfect, but in the mean time we could survive evaluating a javascript statement.
[15:36] <oSoMoN_> elopio, that’s already supported by oxide, you can have a look at the existing unit tests at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/oxide.trunk/files/head:/qt/tests/qmltests/api/
[15:37] <tedg> greyback_, Good morning!
[15:38] <greyback_> tedg: hey! By any chance, would you know what this message means: "initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart-session/32011/1322: Connection refused"
[15:38] <kenvandine> bfiller, when you tested it before, did it show up in the apps scope in the shell?
[15:39] <kenvandine> tedg, how can i debug a click app that isn't starting with upstart-app-launch?  it isn't even creating a log file for it
[15:39] <tedg> greyback_, Haven't seen that one before, but guessing that it's looking for the private connection to upstart.
[15:39] <greyback_> tedg: I'm running calendar-app tests on maguro, and it has happened that during test app launch this error happens, and then the remaining launches all fail
[15:39] <bfiller> kenvandine: yes, but I had to search for it and then reboot I think. it finally showed up
[15:39] <kenvandine> i rebooted
[15:39] <kenvandine> i didn't try a search
[15:39] <tedg> greyback_, You'll probably have to ping jodh on that one.
[15:40] <greyback_> tedg: ok, thanks
[15:40] <tedg> greyback_, I'm not sure howit could stop working (and the session not die)
[15:40] <kenvandine> bfiller, ok, it works from a search
[15:40] <tedg> kenvandine, How do you start a click app without UAL?
[15:41] <greyback_> jodh: ping :)
[15:41] <kenvandine> tedg, i don't :)
[15:41] <tedg> kenvandine, Oh, that you're trying to start, but isn't starting.
[15:41] <kenvandine> it wasn't starting with ual
[15:41] <tedg> kenvandine, So look in the application log file and it might have something.  Also turn on glib debug messages and it'll print more.
[15:42] <barry> Kaleo: ping, re test failures in ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[15:42] <bfiller> kenvandine: yeah look in ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-gallery-app-xxxxxx for some hints maybe
[15:42] <elopio> oSoMoN: but how can I get getTestApi() from autopilot?
[15:43] <kenvandine> bfiller,  that wasn't getting created
[15:43] <elopio> hum, or maybe for now, we shouldn't test the internals of the web page with autopilot, just qttest.
[15:43] <bfiller> kenvandine: how did you install it?
[15:43] <kenvandine> althought it is now, since i started it from the shell
[15:43] <kenvandine> pkcon
[15:43] <cwayne> mterry, hey, i saw some talk about the welcome-wizard, just wanted to check in and see if what we have would be customizable?
[15:44] <bfiller> kenvandine: does click list show it correctly?
[15:44] <mterry> cwayne, not yet
[15:44] <kenvandine> bfiller, yes
[15:44] <oSoMoN> elopio, why would we need to access this at the autopilot level, if we already have unit tests that test the same things?
[15:44] <mterry> cwayne, Cimi and I are working on the welcome-wizard, but we both keep being pulled for other stuff
[15:45] <kenvandine> tedg, when starting it from the untrusted-helper, i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6838495/
[15:45] <elopio> oSoMoN: eventually, for testing things like a purchase from the scope. It will start as autopilot to search and open the scope preview, then a webview shows the payment details and we need to confirm there, and then we are back to autopilot.
[15:45] <kenvandine> tedg, i guess that APP_EXEC line is wrong?
[15:45] <kenvandine> does the untrusted-helper handle the APP_DIR properly?
[15:46] <oSoMoN> elopio, ok
[15:46] <oSoMoN> elopio, then we need to discuss how to expose this
[15:47] <tedg> kenvandine, It should, same exec code.  Why is it "./"?
[15:47] <kenvandine> i guess that's a bfiller question :)
[15:47] <elopio> oSoMoN: yes. That test case should be ready like a month from now, so no need to run, but it's important.
[15:48] <tedg> kenvandine, But it couldn't create the application instance, so that usually means Unity isn't ready for it.  Are you telling Unity that it's coming somehow?
[15:48] <elopio> for our immediate testing purposes, qttest is perfect.
[15:48] <kenvandine> tedg, nope
[15:48] <elopio> rhuddie: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/oxide.trunk/view/head:/qt/tests/qmltests/api/tst_WebView_title.qml
[15:48] <tedg> kenvandine, You'll need to do that :-)
[15:48] <tedg> kenvandine, So that it can group the sessions properly.
[15:49] <elopio> rhuddie: it makes sense to do this dialog tests as qttest.
[15:49] <kenvandine> tedg, well it doesn't handle that yet... right?
[15:49] <oSoMoN> elopio, you might want to join #oxide if you’re not there already, so we can have this sort of conversation there
[15:49]  * tedg doesn't know, greyback_ ?
[15:49] <kenvandine> tedg, it worked fine using my hub-exporter example click
[15:49] <kenvandine> just not working with gallery
[15:49] <tedg> Sure, because you were using UAL and calling it an applications.  We handle it for applications.
[15:50] <kenvandine> tedg, what's different?
[15:50] <kenvandine> they are both click packagines
[15:50] <tedg> kenvandine, The handshaking with Unity.
[15:50] <kenvandine> packages
[15:50] <tedg> kenvandine, Unity rejects folks it doesn't know about.
[15:50] <elopio> oSoMoN: right, sorry.
[15:50] <bfiller> tedg: that does seem wrong, sergiusens you know why the APP_EXEC of gallery click has ./gallery-app?
[15:50] <kenvandine> tedg, you are confusing me...
[15:50] <oSoMoN> elopio, no worries :)
[15:50] <greyback_> tedg: kenvandine: sorry I don't follow the above conversation, what's the issue?
[15:50] <tedg> kenvandine, More coffee :-)
[15:51] <kenvandine> tedg, what's different from the gallery click package than my hub-exporter click package?
[15:51] <greyback_> s/don't/can't/
[15:51] <kenvandine> i start them the same way
[15:51] <tedg> greyback_, kenvandine was asking if Unity had a way to tell it that an app will be nested in another app.  i.e. content picking.
[15:51] <kenvandine> i know that isn't there yet...
[15:51] <greyback_> tedg: kenvandine: no it does not have that concept
[15:52] <kenvandine> tedg, it worked with my other example app... just appears as a separate instance
[15:52] <tedg> kenvandine, There's no difference in the package.  There's a difference in the way that they're starting.  One you're telling UAL is an application and it handshakes with Unity to make that okay.  The other you're saying is an untrusted helper, which means that you're in charge of it.
[15:52] <kenvandine> tedg, no... both are with the untrusted helper
[15:52] <tedg> greyback_, So do you know when that's on the plans?
[15:52] <greyback_> kenvandine: I'm only aware of the case when 1 app wants to invoke a trusted helper (which are written by us), and that trusted helper can invoke a 3rd party app. Unity will group those processes into one "app" visually for the user
[15:52] <kenvandine> the untrusted helper started my hub-exporter app fine
[15:53] <greyback_> tedg: we've talked about it, there are some high-level docs, but nothing more as yet.
[15:53] <kenvandine> greyback_, the trusted session stuff right?
[15:53] <tedg> kenvandine, The hub-exporter connect to Mir ?
[15:53] <greyback_> kenvandine: right
[15:53] <kenvandine> tedg, it starts fine and works
[15:53] <tedg> kenvandine, But does it connect to Mir?
[15:53] <kenvandine> using untrusted helper started with content-hub
[15:53] <kenvandine> you mean is it displayed?
[15:54] <kenvandine> yes... it works... lets me pick a photo and all
[15:54] <tedg> Sure, I'm saying the error you're getting is that Mir is saying "not a valid app"
[15:54] <kenvandine> it's just a simple qml app
[15:54] <tedg> Was gallery running at the time in another instance?
[15:54] <tedg> i.e. was that telling Mir that galleries were okay?
[15:55] <kenvandine> tedg, maybe... i had multiple instances of my hub-exporter running for testing
[15:55] <kenvandine> that worked
[15:55] <sergiusens> tedg bfiller, yes, that was way before the upstart app launch fat package capability and it wasn't in path; all the packages in the store use this trick
[15:56] <kenvandine> tedg, i just confirmed... same error when it isn't already running
[15:56] <bfiller> sergiusens: do we need it still?
[15:56] <kenvandine> maybe it's because of the ./ ?
[15:56] <tedg> We might need a UAL release.  Working on that with a migration "to the train".
[15:56] <bfiller> kenvandine: try getting rid of the ./ and see if it works
[15:57] <sergiusens> bfiller, not necessarily; but we would need to install it in those locations tedg has in his new stuff
[15:57] <kenvandine> ah... removing the ./ i get a new error
[15:57] <kenvandine> ** (process:9386): WARNING **: Unable to exec 'echo Error': Permission denied
[15:57] <paultag> Hey phone'ers. I've got my Nexus 7 sitting around. I've been using Debian on it for a while in a chroot; How's Ubuntu Phone coming along? Has anyone extracted the Netflix .so for talking it's DRM and got a Netflix app working?
[15:57] <sergiusens> kenvandine, do you launch with upstart app launch?
[15:57] <paultag> (really the only holdback)
[15:58] <paultag> (from the android app)
[15:58] <kenvandine> sergiusens, i was launching with the untrusted-helper
[15:58] <sergiusens> kenvandine, don;t know about that one
[15:58] <tedg> kenvandine, So I think I'm confused.  You're launching with untrusted-helper, which case does it work with untrusted-helper?
[15:58] <popey> paultag: hey, don't think so
[15:58] <paultag> heyya popey
[15:59] <paultag> popey: what's new, dude
[15:59] <kenvandine> tedg, my hub-exporter worked with the untrusted-helper
[15:59] <FuLgOrE> I'll go to bed now. I'll flash tomorrow. see you and good night (morning, or whatever is matching for you)
[15:59] <tedg> kenvandine, And your hub-exporter connected to Mir?
[15:59] <rhuddie> elopio, thanks, I'll take a look at that
[15:59] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:59] <paultag> popey: do you happen to know how it boots? Is Ubuntu Phone using uboot?
[15:59] <elopio> rhuddie: also, join #oxide.
[16:00] <paultag> or is it using the standard android bootup chain
[16:00] <tedg> kenvandine, What AppID did it end up as?
[16:02] <kenvandine> tedg, let me do it again
[16:02] <bfiller> kenvandine, tedg : move the trusted helper meeting till tomorrow so tvoss can join
[16:02] <bfiller> I moved it rather
[16:02] <shiggitay> rsalveti_, where does active_ws_connection.conf go again?
[16:02] <kenvandine> ok, thanks
[16:03] <tedg> bfiller, K
[16:04] <rhuddie> elopio, thanks, I'm there
[16:04] <cwayne> rsalveti_, hey, is there a way to force portrait or landscape on flo
[16:04] <ogra_> cwayne, not yet
[16:06] <ogra_> (afaik at least)
[16:06] <shiggitay> rsalveti_, ?
[16:07] <rsalveti_> shiggitay: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[16:07] <rsalveti_> cwayne: not yet
[16:07] <kenvandine> tedg, now i'm really confused... now my hub-exporter isn't working...
[16:07] <rsalveti_> cwayne: we need either a change in mir or unity8 to do the rotation
[16:08] <shiggitay> rsalveti_, Ahhhh thanks
[16:08] <shiggitay> heh
[16:08] <cwayne> rsalveti_, makes sense thanks.  jsut curious
[16:08] <kenvandine> tedg, so what is making Mir reject it?  what's the difference with starting it with the untrusted helper?
[16:08] <Saviq> rsalveti_, cwayne, we're planning to force it to landscape in unity-mir/unity8 yes
[16:09] <ogra_> Saviq, when is shell rotation support landing btw ?
[16:09] <Saviq> ogra_, not before it's designed
[16:09] <kenvandine> the only thing i'm using the untrusted helper for is to inject the INSTANCE_ID into the env
[16:10] <ogra_> Saviq, you mean it wasnt discussed on the design sprint ?!?
[16:10] <Saviq> ogra_, so not for a few weeks at least
[16:10] <barry> elopio: perhaps you know about some build failures i'm seeing with the trusty version of ubuntu-ui-toolkit?
[16:10] <Saviq> ogra_, sure it was discussed, but there's no concrete output yet
[16:10] <ogra_> ah, but we expect it for 14.04
[16:10] <ogra_> ?
[16:10] <Saviq> ogra_, wouldn't hold my breath I'm afraid
[16:10] <elopio> barry: maybe. Where are you looking at them?
[16:10] <tedg> kenvandine, Mir rejects everything, unless it's been told to accept it by unity-mir.  UAL's application side has handshaking logic with unity-mir to make sure that it's managed properly.
[16:10] <ogra_> :(
[16:10] <Saviq> ogra_, too much is still in flux still
[16:10] <Saviq> design-wise
[16:11] <ogra_> right
[16:11] <barry> elopio: local build of trusty package in an amd64 chroot
[16:11] <ogra_> thanks for landing the socket fix btw
[16:11] <Saviq> ogra_, sure
[16:11] <tedg> kenvandine, So for content-hub you should set up the trusted session relationship with unity-mir, and then it'll know to accept it.
[16:11] <ogra_> mterry, i'll do a new attempt of landing nested tomorrow (fyi)
[16:11] <kenvandine> tedg, i'm using upstart_app_launch_start_application
[16:12] <shiggitay> rsalveti_, grr my N5 isn't grabbing the network connection even with that file in there
[16:12] <elopio> barry: I don't have a chroot here, but I can start setting it up. Can you paste the errors?
[16:12] <kenvandine> tedg,  but we don't have the trusted session stuff yet...
[16:12] <rsalveti_> shiggitay: chmod 600 it
[16:12] <tedg> kenvandine, You need it :-)
[16:12] <shiggitay> oh duh
[16:12] <barry> elopio: yep, i'm running a quick rebuild here.  will paste momentarily
[16:12] <tedg> kenvandine, If nothing else you need a way to tell Unity to allow it, even if it doesn't do all the window management part.
[16:12] <kenvandine> tedg, so how is this different than when i was using upstart_app_launch_start_application ?
[16:13] <mterry> ogra_, Oh...  So we'll need a mir release.  And the two AP new tests are still in process of landing (thought those were requirement for landing nested again)
[16:13] <kenvandine> i meant i am now using upstart_app_launch_start_multiple_helper
[16:14] <ogra_> mterry, oh, a mir release ?
[16:14] <tedg> kenvandine, So the application jobs do handshaking with unity-mir to tell Unity that a new application is starting, started, crashed, etc.  So that Unity can visually track their state as-well-as tell Mir to accept connections from them.
[16:14] <ogra_> mterry, i thought the fix landed with the last mir
[16:14] <mterry> ogra_, yeah, there is a fix in there for a crash that was affecting unity-system-compositor
[16:14] <ogra_> right, the double stop thing
[16:15] <ogra_> (or was it double start ?) ... (double ... something ...)
[16:15] <mterry> ogra_, yeah, double start, but this is another one.  r1353
[16:15] <mterry> ogra_, will hit with 0.1.4
[16:15] <ogra_> ok
[16:16] <ogra_> then i'll hold my feet stil
[16:16] <mterry> ogra_, there were two AP tests wanted too.  One is a NM integration test in unity8 that will land today
[16:16] <mterry> ogra_, the other is the u1 account signup test that elopio is working on.  Not sure of ETA on that
[16:16] <kenvandine> tedg, so before when i was using upstart_app_launch_start_application it was using the application-click job right?
[16:16] <kenvandine> which did that magic for me
[16:16] <barry> elopio: i needed to apply this small patch first: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6838622/
[16:16] <ogra_> ok
[16:16] <jodh> greyback_: is the session init still running as pid 1322? If so, I suspect this is bug 1258098 which I have a fix for upstream but which has not yet been merged due to an outstanding review of the code.
[16:16] <tedg> kenvandine, correct
[16:16] <barry> elopio: and then got this build failure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6838639/    (scroll to the bottom and search up for FAIL)
[16:16] <kenvandine> so switching to the untrusted helper broke that... sigh
[16:17] <tedg> kenvandine, It allowed you to have more control.  With power comes responsibility young jedi.
[16:17] <elopio> mterry: ETA is the end of this week. The account part is ready, but now I need to fake a successful download.
[16:18] <kenvandine> tedg, so there's no other way to start_multiple without a helper... right?  and no other way to get the INSTANCE_ID in the env?
[16:18] <tedg> kenvandine, There is no INSTANCE_ID for click packages.  They're all single instance.
[16:18] <mterry> elopio, cool, thanks!  ogra_ ^
[16:18] <kenvandine> tedg, which is what i'm needing to work around :)
[16:20] <ogra_> mterry, ok ... sad, i was hoping we could land it befoore end of the sprint, since manual testing with everyone at one table is faster and easier ... but next week it will be then
[16:20] <mterry> ogra_, well, you can still test.  The new AP test shouldn't affect that
[16:20] <elopio> barry: FAIL!  : components::DateUtilsAPI::test_daysInMonth(row 1) daysInMonth() failed for month 2
[16:20] <elopio> I haven't seen that before, but the problem seems clear.
[16:20] <elopio> Kaleo is the only SDK dev that remains late. Are you here?
[16:20] <mterry> ogra_, only thing you'll need to test is latest mir
[16:20] <ogra_> right, mir will though
[16:21] <shiggitay> ok so once the mir update is applied (doing that now) and I reboot, should I be able to boot to the 'lockscreen' ?
[16:21] <mterry> ogra_, :(
[16:21] <mterry> ogra_, things move slowly
[16:21] <kenvandine> tedg, could i just create another upstart job type for application-multiple-click ?
[16:21] <kenvandine> instead of using the untrusted helper?
[16:21]  * shiggitay pokes ogra_ 
[16:22] <greyback_> jodh: ok, yes session init still there. Ok I'll be patient for that to land so. Thanks
[16:23] <jodh> greyback_: does your ps output for that process show '--state-fd' as one of the options?
[16:23] <greyback_> jodh: lemme see, am trying to reprodice it again
[16:23] <tedg> kenvandine, That doesn't really made sense...
[16:24] <tedg> kenvandine, I think you should talk greyback_ into giving you a simple temporary API for trusted sessions that right now, just allows them.
[16:24] <kenvandine> tedg, i didn't think i should... i guess i have to wait for the trusted session stuff
[16:24] <kenvandine> greyback_, ^^ please :)
[16:25] <tedg> kenvandine, He's Irish, which means you can pay in beer, but it also means that payment form is expensive :-)
[16:25] <greyback_> I was never a cheap date ;)
[16:25] <kenvandine> :)
[16:25] <elopio> barry: oh, I can reproduce it here with trunk with just make check.
[16:25] <kenvandine> there's always beer involved
[16:25] <elopio> I wonder how they could merge with that failure. I'll report the bug.
[16:26] <ogra_> shiggitay, yes ?
[16:26] <kenvandine> greyback_, how hard would it be to give me some way to do that?
[16:26] <kenvandine> until we get proper trusted sessions?
[16:26] <ogra_> mterry, yeah, still trying to get used to it
[16:27] <elopio> barry: https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/dateUtilsTestFix/+merge/203700
[16:29] <barry> elopio: nice.  thanks let me try that one here
[16:32] <cwayne> mardy, ping
[16:34] <shiggitay> hmm so I tried to apt-get install xchat from my computer here via adb shell, and it installed without issue, but how do I run it?
[16:37] <shiggitay> anyone?
[16:40] <ogra_> shiggitay, you cant
[16:40] <ogra_> well, you can, but it wouldnt display anywhere
[16:40] <shiggitay> hmm
[16:40] <shiggitay> that's odd that it allows the install to happen but it won't work
[16:40] <ogra_> (there is no X on the phone)
[16:40] <shiggitay> yeah
[16:40] <ogra_> the official images are readonly and only allow installation of click packages
[16:41] <shiggitay> ah
[16:41] <ogra_> you are running a hacked together thing
[16:41] <shiggitay> yeah
[16:41] <shiggitay> hm
[16:41] <barry> elopio: new failure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6838771/
[16:41] <shiggitay> this build with the new mir is running rather smooth though
[16:43] <shiggitay> cellular data on Sprint doesn't seem to work yet though
[16:50] <elopio> barry: hum, I don't get that one with zsombi's branch.
[16:51] <barry> elopio: interesting.  and zsombi's branch is the only change from trusty?
[16:54] <elopio> barry: I think so, yes. Trusty has the package from the 28th. The previous error was caused by today being 29th.
[16:57] <elopio> I don't really know what they are doing in that test, but it seems you are having a problem with QtQuick.LocalStorage
[16:57] <elopio> QWARN  : tst_MainView::testLocalStorage() QSqlQuery::prepare: database not open
[17:00] <barry> elopio: yep.  in a meeting now.
[17:05] <shiggitay> heh so there's some progress, but I'll flash back to UT once more is working :)
[17:15] <cwayne> stgraber, ping
[17:25] <boiko> fginther: hey, would you mind giving me some help to understand what is going on here: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-trusty/2365/
[17:26] <boiko> fginther: according to the videos, dialer-app is freezing, and the only thing I found suspicious in the logs is that it says something about the com.canonical.pim owner being ''
[17:26] <boiko> fginther: but there were no changes in dialer-app that could possibly cause that
[17:28] <fginther> boiko, is a dependency responsible for com.canonical.pim? Has it been updated recently?
[17:28] <boiko> fginther: that would be an indirect dependency, we rely on the address-book-app's QML plugin, which in turns depends on the address-book-service
[17:29] <boiko> renato_: were there any changes to the address-book-service lately? ^
[17:36] <renato_> boiko, some small changes, but what is the problem?
[17:36] <renato_> I am not sure if this was already released
[17:36] <boiko> renato_: dialer-app is freezing in otto
[17:37] <boiko> renato_: and the only thing suspicious I found in the logs was this:
[17:37] <boiko> renato_: /var/local/autopilot/autopilot.log: QDBusConnection: name 'com.canonical.pim' had owner '' but we thought it was ':1.105'
[17:37] <renato_> boiko, I do not know what that means
[17:38] <renato_> boiko, try with memory backend
[17:38] <boiko> renato_: that's why I was asking if there was a way to force the memory backend without having to change dialer-app's code
[17:39] <renato_> no
[17:51] <chrisccoulson> Mirv, are we meant to be able to upgrade from https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta2? i see this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6839172/
[18:19] <lool> tvoss: FYI, pitti reproduced the failure by reverting to the old packages IIUC; see #ubuntu-devel weblog for details  :-)
[18:19] <lool> tvoss: the p-a tests failing that is
[18:19] <lool> pitti: well done
[18:19] <lool> pitti: so you created a chroot and downgraded the bdeps?
[18:19] <lozohcum> hey folks, does anyone know if I can port Ubuntu touch to device which has only CM11 and CM10?
[18:19] <tvoss> lool, yup, chatting with him
[18:19] <pitti> lool: yes, chatting  with tvoss
[18:20] <pitti> lool: phone build from this morning + http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/location-service-trusty-armhf-ci/27/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip debs (that's the last CI run from https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/location-service/add_controller_and_service_configuration/+merge/199105)
[18:20] <pitti> lool: and with that, build lp:~thomas-voss/platform-api/expose_accuracy_and_service_status_to_platform
[18:21] <lozohcum> thanks for ignoring
[18:22] <lool> cyphermox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6839350/
[18:23] <pitti> tvoss: FTR, exactly the same failure with the debs you mailed me
[18:23] <pitti> tvoss: I take it they should be more or less the same as the ones in the MP?
[20:09] <kenvandine> tedg, fyi... reverting UAL to what's in the daily build ppa fixes my problem of starting the click build of gallery from upstart-app-launch
[20:10] <kenvandine> tedg, i was running a local build from your untrusted-helper branch
[20:10] <kenvandine> tedg, with that branch i could launch from the shell, but on using the upstart-app-launch util
[20:11] <tedg> kenvandine, "but not using" ?
[20:12] <kenvandine> right... not actually using the untrusted helper
[20:12] <kenvandine> just trying to run upstart-app-launch via ssh
[20:12] <kenvandine> silently did nothing with bfiller's click build of gallery
[20:13] <kenvandine> doesn't even create the log file in .cache/upstart/
[20:14] <tedg> Huh, okay.  Not sure what could be causing that.
[20:14] <kenvandine> i'll turn on G_DEBUG_MESSAGES and try your branch again
[20:15] <kenvandine> would that log to .xsession-errors?
[20:15] <tedg> No, that utility would gen on the command line.
[20:15] <tedg> There's no X :-)
[20:15] <kenvandine> ok
[20:15] <kenvandine> yeah... but stuff still logs there :)
[20:21] <kenvandine> tedg, well crap... now i installed the build from your branch again... and it works!
[20:21] <kenvandine> grrrrrrr
[20:21] <tedg> Hah, okay.  I was about to write WFM :-)
[20:21] <kenvandine> ha!
[20:21] <kenvandine> all i did was switch back and forth between installed debs
[20:22] <tedg> Did you restart?
[20:22] <tedg> At least Unity would need to reload the library.
[20:23] <kenvandine> not this time
[20:24] <kenvandine> but i did earlier... several times
[20:37] <tedg> kenvandine, Perhaps you accidentally deleted the click package hook link, and reinstalling caused click to regenerate those.
[20:37] <tedg> kenvandine, That'd for UAL to believe it's a legacy package and try to run that.
[20:37] <tedg> That's cause...
[20:37] <kenvandine> ah... perhaps
[20:39] <stoeptegel> does anyone know when canonical will release their ubuntu phone in the Netherlands?
[20:43] <kenvandine> bfiller, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/defaults_triplet/+merge/203841
[20:43] <kenvandine> bfiller, but we can't land that until the gallery click lands
[20:43] <kenvandine> well we need both
[20:44] <kenvandine> oh, and of course UAL with the triplet_to_appid API
[20:44] <kenvandine> which is in trunk
[20:44] <bfiller> kenvandine: is the UAL problem resolved?
[20:45] <kenvandine> bfiller, apparently...
[20:45] <kenvandine> it's working for me now... with both trunk and the untrusted-helper branch
[20:45] <bfiller> kenvandine: what was issue?
[20:45] <kenvandine> so maybe the click hook was messed up and reinstalling the package fixed it
[20:46] <kenvandine> bfiller, so this branch really just changes the defaults to an array of the triplet which gets converted to an appid
[20:46] <bfiller> kenvandine: so to test I need your content-hub branch and UAL trunk? I will try on my device
[20:47] <kenvandine> yup
[20:47] <kenvandine> and the gallery click
[20:47] <bfiller> yup, with your changes merged
[20:47] <kenvandine> hopefully the debs will be in the MP soon
[20:52] <popey> stoeptegel: the goal is sometime this year
[20:52] <stoeptegel> interesting. Thank you :)
[22:21] <DjMadness> which is the biggest phone for ubuntu touch (ie the "flagship" model), thats well supported
[22:23] <popey> DjMadness: thats in flux right now. the current device is nexus 4
[22:25] <DjMadness> ah okays, thanks :)
[22:26]  * genii sips his coffee and procrastinates about repairing broken screen number 3 on his Nexus 4 
[22:27] <DjMadness> you broke your screen 3 times ? :O
[22:31] <genii> DjMadness: Yup. Last two times was with a protector on it too.