[04:54] anybody available to help with an installation quirk? [04:54] ok, so i have ubuntu studio running live off this usb -- but the install launcher is not working --- what could be the case? [04:56] Try running from the terminal, see if you get any output. Also, may want to look in ~/.xsession-errors or .cache/upstart/startxfce.log [04:57] Unit193: not sure i understand -- run the installer thru the term? [04:58] What exactly is it getting stuck at and which version? [04:58] i'm such a dweeb. how do i check the version -- i only wrote studio on the usb [04:59] i want to say its 1204 [05:00] subuntu: check and see [05:00] omg. i wonder if this is a 64 bit .iso [05:00] lsb_release -c [05:00] arch [05:01] just saying precise [05:01] not telling me if 32 or 64 [05:02] its an acer laptop with amd athlon 64 inside [05:02] subuntu: which did you get? which do you want? [05:02] its loading live, so its not like you have the wrong one [05:02] acer aspire 5515 [05:03] but the installer won't launch -- i din't even ask it to run live -- i selected 'install' from the start, but it just went to live [05:04] it was 'burned' or copied using unetbootin, so i got the unet splash that starts with 'default' option, and then the others. i selected install, but it went live. [05:05] subuntu: unet can break that [05:05] subuntu: just select install from the menu [05:05] where in the menu? [05:05] if that is what is failing, then elaborate about how its failing [05:06] i see it in the menu -- its 1204.3 [05:07] let me try running [05:07] nope, not doing anything [05:08] !mini [05:08] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [05:08] subuntu: you can use one of those, and add what you want to it [05:08] or, the xubuntu live iso if that is working better for your needs [05:09] subuntu: could be something in the way you made the stick... or it could be a bad iso [05:09] !md5 | subuntu will help you test [05:09] subuntu will help you test: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [05:11] holstein, before i go doing that, can you help me determine which is the right iso, whether it should be 32b or 64b? [05:11] subuntu: sure. do you have a system that is 64bit capable? [05:12] as i mentioned the computer is an acer aspire 5515, and there is a sticker with 'amd athlon 64' on it [05:13] How much ram? [05:13] how do i query that [05:13] subuntu: its in the unit [05:14] subuntu: you can run "free -m" in a terminal if you like [05:15] total 2757 , used 1088, free 1669, swap 6236 [05:16] so, i would to 32 there.. 4gb's is where i consider 64bit [05:17] ok -- so back to what you were saying about using a minimalist cd -- those packages listed on the page you referenced don't say they are studio packages [05:17] at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [05:19] subuntu: there are just main ubuntu repos.. all the official flavours use them [05:19] subuntu: the mini iso's are as advertised.. just minimal.. you add what you want to them after install [05:20] or, you try making the stick a different way, after checking the md5 sum.. etc [05:20] isn't there an ubuntustudio 700mb cd .iso? [05:20] subuntu: no [05:20] subuntu: there is a smaller xubuntu iso, that i suggested, that you can also add what you like to from the studio stuff [05:23] yes, but then the installation doesn't look like studio, and i don't know all the packages to make it so -- the file that i downloaded to make the usb has been deleted, so should i start over with a new download, i guess? and then, you are suggesting that i NOT use unetbootin? [05:24] subuntu: you install the ubuntustuduio ones [05:25] you can literally run "apt-cache search ubuntustudio" and install those.. but, yes, you can do whatever makes you comfortable [05:25] subuntu: did the md5 sum fail on the download you had? [05:26] the download has been deleted, so i guess i can't check it? or can it be checked against the usb? i'm not a coplete noob, but i'm not either proficient or knowledgeable [05:27] also -- is 1204 the best version to get now (is it lts?) [05:27] subuntu: "best" is always a matter of opinion and use case [05:27] you seem tired, your speaking over my head [05:28] subuntu: yeah? [05:28] yeah [05:28] subuntu: "best" is not something i can say in reference to that question [05:28] subuntu: 12.04 is the LTS version.. lts stands for long term support [05:28] 13.10 is the latest.. its newer, but is not supported as long.. not nearly as long [05:28] the best will be which ever of those fits your needs best [05:29] subuntu: clear? i'll go into more information if you need [05:30] seems like lts is the 'best' option then [05:30] subuntu: if you want 5 years support over newer packages, it is [05:31] what would a good alternative to unetbootin be if i download 12.04 32 bit for copy/burn to usb? [05:32] subuntu: you can dd copy all the iso's [05:32] subuntu: but, unetbootin works for me [05:32] !install | subuntu lists options [05:32] subuntu lists options: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate [05:33] i thought that your earlier inference was that unetbootin 'breaks' the installer? [05:34] subuntu: i have experienced first hand that it did, yes [05:34] subuntu: i have selected "install" as you did, and gotten to "live" as you said you did [05:34] subuntu: but, i have always been able to work around that, and install [05:35] thats what i was hoping to do, is work around, since i already have a usb 'burned' or copied [05:35] i usualy just select "default" from the unetbootin menu first [05:35] subuntu: have you tried "default" ? or another option from that menu? [05:35] no, i went right to 'install' [05:36] subuntu: so, try "default" [05:36] if you do nothing, it goes to default, right? [05:36] subuntu: i dont know, i just select "default" manually.. but, try anything different and see [05:37] ok, guess i'll restart and see === mike is now known as Guest92072 [14:24] Anyone here used Garageband on iPhone? And know of a similar solution one could run on the Ubuntu Studio installation on a small pc? [14:37] ci sono italiani? [14:37] ho problemi con ubuntu studio e i pixeldel monitor.. [14:38] l'ho appena riistallato da zero perchè aggiornando i driver mi si era impallato tutto... [14:40] !it [14:40] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [21:16] how can I upgrade to 13.10 using the console? [21:16] hellow guys [23:20] do people lag a version behind like that because they think its more "stable" by then?