[04:54] <subuntu> anybody available to help with an installation quirk?
[04:54] <subuntu> ok, so i have ubuntu studio running live off this usb -- but the install launcher is not working --- what could be the case?
[04:56] <Unit193> Try running from the terminal, see if you get any output.  Also, may want to look in ~/.xsession-errors or .cache/upstart/startxfce.log
[04:57] <subuntu> Unit193: not sure i understand -- run the installer thru the term?
[04:58] <Unit193> What exactly is it getting stuck at and which version?
[04:58] <subuntu> i'm such a dweeb. how do i check the version -- i only wrote studio on the usb
[04:59] <subuntu> i want to say its 1204
[05:00] <holstein> subuntu: check and see
[05:00] <subuntu> omg. i wonder if this is a 64 bit .iso
[05:00] <Unit193> lsb_release -c
[05:00] <Unit193> arch
[05:01] <subuntu> just saying precise
[05:01] <subuntu> not telling me if 32 or 64
[05:02] <subuntu> its an acer laptop with amd athlon 64 inside
[05:02] <holstein> subuntu: which did you get? which do you want?
[05:02] <holstein> its loading live, so its not like you have the wrong one
[05:02] <subuntu> acer aspire 5515
[05:03] <subuntu> but the installer won't launch -- i din't even ask it to run live -- i selected 'install' from the start, but it just went to live
[05:04] <subuntu> it was 'burned' or copied using unetbootin, so i got the unet splash that starts with 'default' option, and then the others. i selected install, but it went live.
[05:05] <holstein> subuntu: unet can break that
[05:05] <holstein> subuntu: just select install from the menu
[05:05] <subuntu> where in the menu?
[05:05] <holstein> if that is what is failing, then elaborate about how its failing
[05:06] <subuntu> i see it in the menu -- its 1204.3
[05:07] <subuntu> let me try running
[05:07] <subuntu> nope, not doing anything
[05:08] <holstein> !mini
[05:08] <holstein> subuntu: you can use one of those, and add what you want to it
[05:08] <holstein> or, the xubuntu live iso if that is working better for your needs
[05:09] <holstein> subuntu: could be something in the way you made the stick... or it could be a bad iso
[05:09] <holstein> !md5 | subuntu will help you test
[05:11] <subuntu> holstein, before i go doing that, can you help me determine which is the right iso, whether it should be 32b or 64b?
[05:11] <holstein> subuntu: sure. do you have a system that is 64bit capable?
[05:12] <subuntu> as i mentioned the computer is an acer aspire 5515, and there is a sticker with 'amd athlon 64' on it
[05:13] <Unit193> How much ram?
[05:13] <subuntu> how do i query that
[05:13] <holstein> subuntu: its in the unit
[05:14] <holstein> subuntu: you can run "free -m" in a terminal if you like
[05:15] <subuntu> total 2757 , used 1088, free 1669, swap 6236
[05:16] <holstein> so, i would to 32 there.. 4gb's is where i consider 64bit
[05:17] <subuntu> ok -- so back to what you were saying about using a minimalist cd -- those packages listed on the page you referenced don't say they are studio packages
[05:17] <subuntu> at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:19] <holstein> subuntu: there are just main ubuntu repos.. all the official flavours use them
[05:19] <holstein> subuntu: the mini iso's are as advertised.. just minimal.. you add what you want to them after install
[05:20] <holstein> or, you try making the stick a different way, after checking the md5 sum.. etc
[05:20] <subuntu> isn't there an ubuntustudio 700mb cd .iso?
[05:20] <holstein> subuntu: no
[05:20] <holstein> subuntu: there is a smaller xubuntu iso, that i suggested, that you can also add what you like to from the studio stuff
[05:23] <subuntu> yes, but then the installation doesn't look like studio, and i don't know all the packages to make it so -- the file that i downloaded to make the usb has been deleted, so should i start over with a new download, i guess? and then, you are suggesting that i NOT use unetbootin?
[05:24] <holstein> subuntu: you install the ubuntustuduio ones
[05:25] <holstein> you can literally run "apt-cache search ubuntustudio" and install those.. but, yes, you can do whatever makes you comfortable
[05:25] <holstein> subuntu: did the md5 sum fail on the download you had?
[05:26] <subuntu> the download has been deleted, so i guess i can't check it? or can it be checked against the usb? i'm not a  coplete noob, but i'm not either proficient or knowledgeable
[05:27] <subuntu> also -- is 1204 the best version to get now (is it lts?)
[05:27] <holstein> subuntu: "best" is always a matter of opinion and use case
[05:27] <subuntu> you seem tired, your speaking over my head
[05:28] <holstein> subuntu: yeah?
[05:28] <subuntu> yeah
[05:28] <holstein> subuntu: "best" is not something i can say in reference to that question
[05:28] <holstein> subuntu: 12.04 is the LTS version.. lts stands for long term support
[05:28] <holstein> 13.10 is the latest.. its newer, but is not supported as long.. not nearly as long
[05:28] <holstein> the best will be which ever of those fits your needs best
[05:29] <holstein> subuntu: clear? i'll go into more information if you need
[05:30] <subuntu> seems like lts is the 'best' option then
[05:30] <holstein> subuntu: if you want 5 years support over newer packages, it is
[05:31] <subuntu> what would a good alternative to unetbootin be if i download 12.04 32 bit for copy/burn to usb?
[05:32] <holstein> subuntu: you can dd copy all the iso's
[05:32] <holstein> subuntu: but, unetbootin works for me
[05:32] <holstein> !install | subuntu lists options
[05:33] <subuntu> i thought that your earlier inference was that unetbootin 'breaks' the installer?
[05:34] <holstein> subuntu: i have experienced first hand that it did, yes
[05:34] <holstein> subuntu: i have selected "install" as you did, and gotten to "live" as you said you did
[05:34] <holstein> subuntu: but, i have always been able to work around that, and install
[05:35] <subuntu> thats what i was hoping to do, is work around, since i already have a usb 'burned' or copied
[05:35] <holstein> i usualy just select "default" from the unetbootin menu first
[05:35] <holstein> subuntu: have you tried "default" ? or another option from that menu?
[05:35] <subuntu> no, i went right to 'install'
[05:36] <holstein> subuntu: so, try "default"
[05:36] <subuntu> if you do nothing, it goes to default, right?
[05:36] <holstein> subuntu: i dont know, i just select "default" manually.. but, try anything different and see
[05:37] <subuntu> ok, guess i'll restart and see
[14:24] <cub> Anyone here used Garageband on iPhone? And know of a similar solution one could run on the Ubuntu Studio installation on a small pc?
[14:37] <AsusF3s> ci sono italiani?
[14:37] <AsusF3s> ho problemi con ubuntu studio e i pixeldel monitor..
[14:38] <AsusF3s> l'ho appena riistallato da zero perchè aggiornando i driver mi si era impallato tutto...
[14:40] <cub> !it
[21:16] <grelo> how can I upgrade to 13.10 using the console?
[21:16] <grelo> hellow guys
[23:20] <holstein> do people lag a version behind like that because they think its more "stable" by then?