| sgclark | Riddell: got that from http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/List sorry if wrong | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | sgclark: dunno, I queried afiestas | 00:16 |
| sgclark | ok | 00:16 |
| Riddell | hmm, where has kdontchangethehostname gone? | 00:16 |
| Riddell | oh it's in kde-runtime | 00:16 |
| Riddell | always loved that binary name | 00:17 |
| sgclark | lol | 00:17 |
| sgclark | kded last of t3, want me to start t4? | 00:18 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kded uploaded! | 00:18 |
| Riddell | go for it! | 00:18 |
| sgclark | ok :) | 00:18 |
| Riddell | I changed kf5-kded to kded, I don't think there's a name for a namespace | 00:18 |
| Riddell | of course all my decisions are arbitrary and someone else might disagree when they look at it, I expect debian will have lots of opinions, they usually do | 00:19 |
| sgclark | ok | 00:19 |
| Riddell | yay, down to 17 unprocessed e-mails, go me | 00:20 |
| sgclark | hehe I need to go through mine sometime soon | 00:22 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 00:46 | |
| ahoneybun | how are you feeling today yofel? | 02:31 |
| ahoneybun | has anyone built homerun 1.2 for saucy? | 03:11 |
| ahoneybun | hey mhall119 | 03:11 |
| mhall119 | hey ahoneybun | 03:13 |
| ahoneybun | what day is the meeting for fl loco? | 03:14 |
| mhall119 | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-florida/719/detail/ | 03:15 |
| mhall119 | this Monday | 03:15 |
| ahoneybun | thansk | 03:15 |
| ahoneybun | I'm stuck at this message http://pastie.org/8680765 | 03:22 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: I'm guessing that last one wasn't for me :) | 03:24 |
| ahoneybun | yea ;) | 03:28 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| soee | good morning | 07:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/bgguWHK.png is that normal with the oxygen font? | 09:07 |
| valorie | ewwww | 09:08 |
| apachelogger | or maybe I somehow broke font rendering | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | now I can't get any decent font going anymore | 09:10 |
| * apachelogger sighs | 09:10 | |
| yofel | looks like disabled antialiasing? ^^ | 09:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | any chance on getting Homerun 1.2.0 on Saucy? | 09:22 |
| soee | avi through ppa https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/homerun?field.series_filter=saucy | 09:26 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: in case it's not too late, the "circle progress thing" can be done with a KPixmapSequenceWidget http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKPixmapSequenceWidget.html | 09:26 |
| ovidiu-florin | soee: thank you | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: nope not too late | 09:42 |
| shadeslayer | thx | 09:42 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: already uploaded | 09:42 |
| apachelogger | yofel: yeah, well, the settings disagreed -.- | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | so much madness | 09:45 |
| jackyalcine | does apport and drkonqi work together on KDE? | 09:55 |
| jackyalcine | I'm curious only because I'm playing with Unity (for the hell of it) and it's like automatically reporting all of the bugs I had backed up on apport | 09:55 |
| jackyalcine | Well, it wouldn't make sense for drkonqi to do so, since it's KDE-specific | 09:56 |
| * jackyalcine excuses himself | 09:56 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: nope | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | jackyalcine: it does in 14.04 | 10:16 |
| apachelogger | in addition to being able to file a manual bug with KDE directly drkonqi can send automatic crash data to us | 10:17 |
| jackyalcine | no point/chance of that hitting backports? | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | nope | 10:19 |
| jackyalcine | Guessing it's one of those KF5 changes? | 10:20 |
| * jackyalcine is curious | 10:20 | |
| apachelogger | https://trello.com/c/6XcuijNW | 10:21 |
| * jackyalcine clicks curiously | 10:21 | |
| * jackyalcine is enlightened | 10:23 | |
| jackyalcine | thanks apachelogger | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I totally do not understand your comment to bug 1273413 | 11:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1273413 in upower (Ubuntu) "no suspend available without pm-utils" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1273413 | 11:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: kubuntu-desktop depends on pm-utils | 11:04 |
| shadeslayer | however, upower does not ... sort of | 11:05 |
| shadeslayer | it depends on pm-utils | systemd-services | 11:05 |
| shadeslayer | according to Riddell | 11:05 |
| Riddell | and apt :) | 11:05 |
| shadeslayer | upower has been patched so that it only uses pm-utils | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | hence, upower should depend on pm-utils, systemd-services | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | peculiar | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | that systemd patchery sure sounds exciting -.- | 11:10 |
| jackyalcine | I know this might be higher up the food chain, but shouldn't something like 'accountsservice' *not* require/suggest gnome-control-center? | 11:46 |
| Riddell | yes | 11:46 |
| jackyalcine | I'm asking because I'm removing more GNOME apps and I almost broke my system because this linked to a GNOME app | 11:46 |
| Riddell | but suggests are pretty harmless | 11:47 |
| jackyalcine | alrighty | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | jackyalcine: suggests are not installed by default | 12:23 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kde4support ready | 13:05 |
| Riddell | ooh another biggie? | 13:05 |
| Riddell | sgclark: khtml in PPA if you want to review it | 13:10 |
| sgclark | ok | 13:10 |
| sgclark | yeah pretty big, lots of deps | 13:10 |
| Riddell | sgclark: that is a muckle copyright file :) | 13:14 |
| sgclark | Riddell: yeah that is what took the longest hehe | 13:14 |
| Riddell | oh I forgot the symbols file in khtml | 13:14 |
| sgclark | Riddell: Homepage: in control needs to be changed to khtml | 13:31 |
| sgclark | Riddell: debian in copyright needs to be you :) | 13:32 |
| ghostcube | haha something to laugh about... petition de depart justin bieber :D loool | 13:46 |
| ghostcube | *to | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | he's already back in Canada, facing more charges./...think he's looking for badboy street creds | 13:48 |
| ghostcube | lol | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | wimpy gonna be a rapper :) | 13:49 |
| ghostcube | oha... nah not almost clode enough | 13:50 |
| ghostcube | no style no flow | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | dunno, don't listen tio that stuff , it's just chanting with a beat, to my ears | 13:51 |
| ghostcube | in case you listen to justin bieber i would tell you to contact a couch doctor | 13:56 |
| ghostcube | :D | 13:56 |
| BluesKaj | uhm, never listened to bubblegum music, even as a kid ...it's for girls and girlies | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | bbl | 13:59 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj, ghostcube: please remain on topic and non-sexist | 14:01 |
| ghostcube | Riddell: ok sorry | 14:02 |
| Riddell | hmm, how do make this co-installable? /usr/share/locale/en_US/entry.desktop | 14:13 |
| soee | wow looks like nvidia-prime is fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1268771 :) | 14:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1268771 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu) "NVIDIA Prime fails with Linux 3.13" [High,Fix released] | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: entry_kf5.desktop? | 14:14 |
| Riddell | hmm, would need klocale_kde.cpp patched | 14:15 |
| * Riddell puts that down to be a job for later | 14:15 | |
| Riddell | I suppose all the langpacks will have the same issue | 14:17 |
| markit | hi I deploy LTSP (thin and fat clients as well) in schols, using kde as de, and I have a lot of I/O if compared with xfce or gnome-fallback that are usually used. Would love to have next kde version work well | 14:21 |
| markit | anyone here that can help me help you to have kde work fine? :) | 14:21 |
| markit | having a kde dev willing to deploy a test ltsp installation (I can help about it) and verify some issues would be great | 14:22 |
| BluesKaj | markit, perhaps #kde might be more appropriate for your query. | 14:23 |
| BluesKaj | or #kde-devel | 14:23 |
| BluesKaj | even | 14:24 |
| Riddell | markit: hmm, that's very good to hear you're using it, I'm afraid I have zero experience with ltsp so I wouldn't know where to start | 14:26 |
| Riddell | markit: it's disk i/o you're seeing? | 14:26 |
| markit | Riddell: I measure with iftop, and I see 400MB of transfer, while gnomefallback has much less (2x less) | 14:27 |
| markit | if you multiply for 20 students and a 2x1gbi nic, you see that is a real bottleneck | 14:28 |
| Riddell | hmm, network i/o ? | 14:28 |
| Riddell | oh but presumably most of that is the ltsp stuff to show what's on screen | 14:28 |
| markit | is disk i/o as well, but don't know how to measure it | 14:28 |
| markit | Riddell: ah, no that is FAT client solution | 14:28 |
| markit | it uses a read only image and the home to write | 14:29 |
| markit | so I see 400MB of writes | 14:29 |
| markit | I had to move /var/tmp/kdecache to ~/.cache otherwise it does not work | 14:29 |
| Riddell | ah, lots of cacheing | 14:29 |
| markit | and set nfs (home is mounted with nfs) to async (that is risky) because with sync it hangs | 14:29 |
| markit | Riddell: even in a single desktop like my laptop that has a slow hd, you see that after login it tales a LOT of time and hd is green still until K menu is responsive | 14:31 |
| markit | just with ltsp the I/O optimization is fundamental | 14:31 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: do you know about plasma caching? could that be the issue? | 14:33 |
| Riddell | markit: don't you have a local /var ? | 14:33 |
| markit | Riddell: do you mind we exchange email address and be in touch later, where I'm at home and I've my "ltsp test lab"? | 14:33 |
| markit | Riddell: fat client are DISKLESS | 14:33 |
| Riddell | markit: can do, I'm jriddell@ubuntu .com | 14:35 |
| markit | in any case you have to compare with lxde or xfce or gnomefallback performances, that are far better | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | you really should take this to some kde thing | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | but yeah, the disk IO would be from cache data | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | which is why you'd want a local /var | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1112734 | 14:36 |
| ubottu | Error: launchpad bug 1112734 not found | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | otherwise it's going to load the entire cache at least once | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | and only the plasma theme cache is like 100mib | 14:36 |
| markit | here some numbers | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I invited markit here, I thought someone might know how to do deploy KDE with LTSP here | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | KDE might know how to deploy a plasma workspace with KDE | 14:37 |
| markit | from boot to ldm login (ltsp login) 66MB | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | kinda implied by the name ;) | 14:37 |
| markit | kde login with nfs async, firsrt login 600MB | 14:37 |
| markit | sorry kde login with nfs sync, firsrt login 600MB | 14:38 |
| markit | kde login with nfs Async, firsrt login 140MB instead, but async is less secure | 14:38 |
| markit | next logins, async, 100MB | 14:38 |
| markit | in comparison | 14:38 |
| markit | gnome I° login (fallback)42MB | 14:39 |
| markit | gnome next login (fallback)35MB | 14:39 |
| markit | Unity I° login45MB | 14:39 |
| markit | both with async or sync, is the same for them | 14:39 |
| markit | so if you have 20 clients booting, you have 140MB vs 42, is a 3x | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/553499 < what's up with that | 14:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 553499 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "date and time kcm offers autosync of time?" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: have you reviewed my MR's yet | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | MR of? | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | upgrade manager | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | I doubt that stuff ends up in my inbox | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | as for the bug... that is somewhat improved | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | it's still insanity to offer the option tho | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: might be worth it to update bug report it and add it to trello if required for 14.04 | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | not requird | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | not even very important | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | just there so that everyone has something to look at and doesn't file 30000 bug reports for the same non-issue | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: so am I getting MR urls or do I have to search for them? | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubuntu-release-upgrader/kubuntu/+merge/203595] | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/820491released yet | 14:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 820491 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "KMail missing from search and launch" [Low,Fix committed] | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what's the diff at line 8? | 14:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: bah, != vs not None | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | revert requested | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | keep clutter out of the reviews plz | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: whats with the error handling that was removed? | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: error handling is present | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | just moved to releaseNotesLoaded | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | 19+ self.dialogue.releaseNotesBrowser.setUrl(QUrl(uri)) | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | 20+ self.dialogue.releaseNotesBrowser.loadFinished.connect(self.releaseNotesLoaded) | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | you want to connect first | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | mm right ofcourse | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: comment on MR, I'll fix on Monday | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | if(!res) | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | qWarning() << "Couldn't find the package:" << it->name(); | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | Q_ASSERT(res); | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | m_toUpdate += res; | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | :O | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | wait what | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | someone was drunk and wrote silly code | 14:54 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1267977] Extreme jerkiness with kwin compositing on Nvidia binary driver after upgrading to 4.11.5. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1267977 (by Michael Marley) | 14:55 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1272438] kwin 100% of cpu, second session @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1272438 (by DimanNe) | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: still waiting for a response on 820491 | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | it says fix commited? | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | yes, so was it released? | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | it would say fix released then? :P | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | images still oversized | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I am going to give kpat the boot | 15:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: new neon5 image seems to work although it doesn't seem to have konsole on it which is a shame | 15:37 |
| Riddell | thank goodness for that autumn wallpaper plugin, main thing to demo :) | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | it's wobblywindows advertisment all over again | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | :S | 15:40 |
| Riddell | wibbly wobbly timey wimey leafy | 15:41 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: as in homerun? | 15:48 |
| Quintasan | geh | 15:48 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1249557] kwin crashes on login @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1249557 (by Scott Moore) | 15:55 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 15:58 |
| Riddell | why do we have both kdeconnect and kdeconnect-kde packages | 16:01 |
| Riddell | and which do I want? | 16:01 |
| Riddell | Quintasan, shadeslayer: are you guys doing the same thing? | 16:03 |
| Riddell | oh, one comes from debian | 16:04 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Geh | 16:04 |
| Quintasan | so | 16:04 |
| Quintasan | kdeconnect comes from debian? | 16:04 |
| Riddell | seems so | 16:04 |
| Riddell | that should just get a transitional package then | 16:05 |
| Riddell | and kdeconnect-kde source can go | 16:05 |
| Quintasan | Seems like a good idea | 16:05 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: able to do that? | 16:05 |
| Quintasan | Should be able to really soon | 16:05 |
| Riddell | now what can I do with this kdeconnect thing? I was good stuff to demo at fosdem | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yes | 16:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: why do we need to get rid of ubufox? | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: pulls in aptdaemon | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | for example | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: well, it's useful for restart notifications | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | restart for what when where? | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | when firefox is updated | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | we have kubuntu-notification-helper for that | 16:24 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6844570/ these test pass local but fail in pbuilder, have tried several things without success | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | does that work with firefox? | 16:25 |
| Riddell | "Compared values are not the same" sounds like something fundmental sgclark | 16:29 |
| Riddell | sgclark: give me what you've got and I'll take a look | 16:29 |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|food | ||
| sgclark | Riddell: ok thank you | 16:30 |
| ghostcube | shadeslayer: i get a notice if firefox is updated to restart it | 16:30 |
| ghostcube | so i think this is working | 16:30 |
| ghostcube | i think i havent got ubufox installed would have to check | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: if not that'd be a bug ;) | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 16:32 |
| ghostcube | Riddell: hmm you can pair youre android with connect and see notifications by adding the kdeconnect widget | 16:32 |
| ghostcube | you can remote control dragon player | 16:33 |
| sgclark | Riddell: frameworkintegration ready | 16:33 |
| ghostcube | but you cant see the battery state so far, perhaps you can but not in my 4.3 android s3 | 16:33 |
| Quintasan | ghostcube: Monitoring battery needs a patch in solid | 16:36 |
| ghostcube | ahh ok | 16:36 |
| === kfunk_ is now known as kfunk | ||
| Quintasan | Riddell: if play something (movie or music) and ask someone to call you, it's going to stop the playback | 16:37 |
| Quintasan | you can share clipboard contents with your device | 16:37 |
| Quintasan | also you can transfer files using that | 16:37 |
| ghostcube | yep, that works nice :) | 16:37 |
| ghostcube | a vlc remote fundtion would be cool :D but its limited to dragonplayer so far | 16:39 |
| Quintasan | Nope | 16:40 |
| Quintasan | It's limited to anything that supports MPRIS or sth like that | 16:40 |
| ghostcube | ah ok.. | 16:40 |
| Quintasan | It stops SMPlayer iirc if you get a call | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | it pauses a movie if you get a call though | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | which is neat | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | I accidentally restarted the movie after picking up the call xSD | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | xD | 16:43 |
| ghostcube | :D | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/DxtwS4c.png | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | good enough? | 16:45 |
| ghostcube | uhhhh i have to change my comment | 16:45 |
| ghostcube | vlc works in 0.4.2 | 16:45 |
| ghostcube | :o | 16:45 |
| ghostcube | yep works fine... holds the film and then after call starts it again | 16:48 |
| ghostcube | oh Quintasan it shows the battery state in 0.4.2 here now after reboot. in the task bar app | 16:51 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | maybe there is no need for solid then | 16:52 |
| === greyback|food is now known as greyback | ||
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: you might want to do the SRU | 16:54 |
| ghostcube | Quintasan: http://picpaste.de/pics/Kubuntu-140nmNKx.1391100861.png | 16:54 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: what sru? | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: kdeconnect | 16:54 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: are you going to do transitional package in trusty then? | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | on Monday | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: technically it isn't google's chromium I think | 16:57 |
| apachelogger | it is however Mozilla Firefox | 16:57 |
| apachelogger | they was very explicit about us calling it properly in order for us to use the official logo | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | "Kubuntu includes Mozilla's Firefox" ? | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | I'd make it | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | Mozilla Foundation's web browser - Firefox | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | just to annoy them | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | :P | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | ehh how do we SRU this | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I'd just update the kdeconnect-kde package | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | Yeah | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html/+merge/204045 | 17:02 |
| Quintasan | wait | 17:02 |
| Quintasan | do we have to SRU that? | 17:02 |
| Quintasan | saucy has 0.4.1, does the new version break it? | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: no no, just update kdeconnect-kde with 0.4.2 | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | should work without any packaging changes | 17:03 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: The question is | 17:05 |
| Quintasan | do we HAVE to do this | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I'd say yes, users get a annoying "Outdated version" message on their devices | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: not Mozilla's Firefox but Mozilla Firefox | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | that's a brand | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | if they have 0.4.1 on the desktop and 0.4.2 on their phone | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | like Microsoft Internet Explorer | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | because Internet Explorer is too generic a term | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | done | 17:06 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: "* Enable searching for missing plugins from Ubuntu software catalog" | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | any ideas what that is? | 17:11 |
| Quintasan | do I target saucy-proposed in changelog first? | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yep | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | or well | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | doesn't matter | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | it'll land in proposed first anyway | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you go to prn.com which wants flash, you have no flash, firefox asks for flash, ubufox uses aptdaemon to use and install the flashes | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | gotcha | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | ^ in practise for some reason that doesn't even work on kubuntu, like disregarding the qaptworker/aptdaemon conflict it simply did not do anything | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1274605 | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1274605 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Please demote xul-ext-ubufox from Firefox Recommends to Suggests" [Undecided,New] | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | not sure who to poke now | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | ha! vueling wants me to fly to BNC | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | BNC? | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | only 50 euroses in feburary | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | only 40 eurores in march | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | sweet baby jesus | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | flying from vienna to barcelona apparenlty is cheaper than hopping on a train from my place to vienna | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | ofcourse | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ah yes, typo | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | trains to/from Barcelona are crazy expensive | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | ah, you're coming to BCN? | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | trains. | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | I'll ask the weed shop next to the office to stack up | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | gross | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | weed is gross. | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | real men take proper medication | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | >medication | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | Which part of that is medication? | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: all parts of mediciation are medication, except for the parts that are poison, then again the line there is blurry, let's just call all poison also medication | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | such philosophical | 17:21 |
| * Quintasan shakes his head | 17:21 | |
| apachelogger | poison, the medication for life</depressive> | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | how did we get to this topic anyway | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | ah yes, BCN | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: possibly I may visit the office at some point to tell everyone just howwwwwww gross beards are | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | spoilers: it's a lot :O | 17:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kapidox ready. extra-license lintian but I think they are part of package | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: ^^ | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: since you started the beard trend | 17:23 |
| d_ed | I did no such thing! | 17:23 |
| d_ed | I just won. | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | well your beard won | 17:23 |
| Quintasan | d_ed: Was the thing you won a bet? | 17:33 |
| d_ed | pride. | 17:33 |
| d_ed | and itchiness. | 17:33 |
| d_ed | mostly itchiness. | 17:33 |
| blizzz | updated kde, suspended laptop, now the screenlock does not show the password field. can i disable the screenlock via cli? tried to kill the kscreenlock_greeter, but with no effect | 17:33 |
| Quintasan | I might have phrased my question wrongly | 17:33 |
| Quintasan | d_ed: What did you win as in was that a bet or competition or what? :P | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | d_ed: itchiness, oh god | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | itchy beard syndrom(tm) | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: you cannot | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: you may want to report a mean bug report about it | 17:35 |
| Quintasan | wat | 17:35 |
| Quintasan | you can | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | no | 17:35 |
| Quintasan | use qdbus to kill it | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | perhaps that would work | 17:35 |
| Quintasan | That will work | 17:35 |
| Quintasan | Since I had a bug that didn't allow me to type in the password | 17:35 |
| Quintasan | so I logged in in tty and killed the greeter via qdbus | 17:36 |
| blizzz | Quintasan: qdbus claims i need to set DISPLAY … which value does it want? :0 or something? | 17:36 |
| Quintasan | DISPLAY=:0 | 17:36 |
| Quintasan | DISPLAY=:0 qdbus blah blah | 17:36 |
| blizzz | Quintasan: mh, only org.freedesktop.dbus is offfered to me | 17:39 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: care to check http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/kdeconnect-kde_0.4.2-0ubuntu1~saucy1.dsc before I upload anything? | 17:39 |
| Quintasan | blizzz: you should have something like org.kde.kscreenlock_greeter-NUMBER | 17:40 |
| Quintasan | if you dont have it then you are doing something wrong | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | ENOTIME | 17:40 |
| blizzz | Quintasan: supposedly, but this is the only entry. I have had an external monitor attached, but unplugged it | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: that's a general bug in kwin I think | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | or xrender, not sure | 17:49 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: what exactly? | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | two screens -> suspend -> resume -> windows from detatched screen will not be moved | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | detatch during suspend ^^ | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | as I said, best file a bug and annoy the master of kwin a bit ;) | 17:50 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: i detached it after waking up | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | might be specific to the locker... just saying there is a general issue with kwin not being able to detect when stuff has been deteatched | 17:51 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: i don't want to open the box of multiple screen setup right now. that's not the issue. getting qdbus work properly would be more interesting. | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | !sru | 17:52 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: you don't have to open the box, you are supposed to file a bug :P | 17:53 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: i cannot file a bug using w3m | 17:53 |
| apachelogger | well, reboot :P | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: have you investigated bookmark importing? | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: briefly... IIRC firefox doesn't use an html file anymore, however it can at the very least import the legacy html file, kbookmarksfoo can export such a file, however since firefox profiles have an arbitrary idea you cannot feed the bookmark into it from the outside | 18:02 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: could be that there is unsaved stuff | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | so all signs point to us needing a plugin for bookmarks | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | ... I really do not like us using firefox | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | we should have gone with chromium :S | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I have the same deduction after looking at this for the last 30 minutes | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fwiw I think it'll be a 2 part thing, python script to export html then js plugin to import it into firefox | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: #kde | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | plus we need something that'll only run when FF is started for the first time | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | you coudl probably just parse the kbookmark data out of whatever it stores it in via a firefox extension | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | possibly there even is sucha thing already | 18:05 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: already there, less helpful | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: well, if you can't get qdbus to list the item then you are screwed :S | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | also mr. kwin isn't here, he knows how to get rid of the screenlocker though | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | and agateau is also already afk, he'd know too ^^ | 18:07 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: mr kwin is also neither in kde nor kde-devel atm (if i remember his nick correctly) | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: bug 1274626 | 18:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1274626 in muon (Ubuntu) "SRU Muon 2.1.3" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1274626 | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: alternatively, we write a patch to import data like the way the chrome importer does | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: yeah, also not on g+ so really I don't know what to do | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | the only people I know who know how to unlock the thing are not here | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: no second screen at hand I guess? | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: a patch for what? | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: for ff | 18:09 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: sure, but that does not help me | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | I think we established that the ubuntu folks don't like us patching the firefox | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | not with not-upstreamable patches anyway, and they are absolutely right | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | after all, we have pretyt much the same policy | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: why? | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: attach screen, and you should be able to unlock | 18:11 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: the pw dialog is absolutely not and nowhere displayed. if it just was invisible i still could enter it und hit enter | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | no you couldn't | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | to focus the password field you'd actually have to click on it | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | another lovely bug with that excellent piece of software | 18:13 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: it's focused by default | 18:14 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: another bug is, that sometimes the lock screen is not shown, but the desktop as it was before suspedning. entering pw and hitting enter helps in that case | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: I don't think it's focused by default on dual screen | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | let me try something | 18:15 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: well, this is how it worked in the past. also, when i use the external monitor i turn off my laptop scrreen. it's a nighmare | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: found it http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/migration/content/migration.xul | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: must file many bug reports so martin gets pissed off ;) | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | anyway, going to try something, brb | 18:18 |
| blizzz | kk | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: found a way I thin | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | k | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=`lsof -U | grep tmp/dbus | head -1 | cut -d@ -f2` | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | qdbus | grep lock | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | qdbus blabhblabhlockgreet_1231231234 /MainApplication org.kde.KApplication.quit | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: I have no idea how that worked for you ever | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | you don't have access to the same session bus | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | from a tty | 18:29 |
| Quintasan | well | 18:29 |
| Quintasan | I did | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | pfff | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: if it doesn't work you'll have to try to manually get the address of your dbus session bus socket out of lsof -U | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | then simply get an export going like this: export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-216OJuItVs | 18:30 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: you are my hero | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | after that you should have access to the proper session | 18:30 |
| blizzz | works like a charm | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: oh, you are on 13.04 still, arent you? | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: nice | 18:31 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: thank you a lot | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | your welcome | 18:32 |
| * apachelogger heads out for the day | 18:32 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ has the new ISO now | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | incase you want to point people to it | 18:43 |
| sgclark | Riddell: last of t4 ready for you. let me know if there are other things I can package | 18:44 |
| Riddell | sgclark: :) | 18:44 |
| Riddell | sgclark: see Debian Merges, Bugs for new and updated and upstream watch at http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 18:45 |
| sgclark | Some sort of ftp site, not sure I see what needs packaging | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: you could QA my KTP packages | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | fun fun fun | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | I don't get a resize option | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | in ubiquity | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: ^^ | 18:48 |
| Riddell | sgclark: you see pretty spider background with links at http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ ? | 18:48 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: that depends on how much free space you have | 18:48 |
| sgclark | Riddell: yes, clicked on debian merges and arrived at an ftp site | 18:49 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: sure, where would I find it? | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddellhttp://imgur.com/Empb485 | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://imgur.com/Empb485 | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: this is for trusty ofcourse | 18:52 |
| sgclark | ok | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: or if you think that's still too little http://i.imgur.com/ZadfXoe.png | 18:54 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: hmm, not sure | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah, not sure, Netrunner 13.12 , Kubuntu 13.10, Kubuntu 14.04 all can't resize | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: might want to update the seed with kcm-touchpad | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | instead of synaptiks | 19:00 |
| * Riddell out | 19:01 | |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| shadeslayer | xnox: any ideas why http://i.imgur.com/ZadfXoe.png doesn't have a resize options | 19:20 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: libktpcommoninternalsprivate-dev is already up to date but it says I have unmet dependency. AM I missing a PPA? | 19:30 |
| jussi | o/ | 19:38 |
| jussi | is anyone else on trusty having issues with panel icons rearranging themselves after restart? | 19:39 |
| sgclark | not that I have noticed | 19:41 |
| jussi | my launcher icon keeps moving a few to the right :/ | 19:45 |
| kdeuser56 | what command to use to submit a diff to reviewboard? | 19:48 |
| kdeuser56 | i have used diff -u -p, but the diffs of others look different in the webpreview ... | 19:49 |
| sgclark | I use git diff | 19:49 |
| kdeuser56 | is a parent diff optional? | 19:50 |
| kdeuser56 | sgclark: yeah but it shows the two different directories the two different files are placed in ... | 19:52 |
| sgclark | git diff filename | 19:53 |
| sgclark | ? | 19:53 |
| kdeuser56 | sgclark: sorry, i have absolutely no experience with versioning systems like git, etc. | 19:54 |
| kdeuser56 | sgclark: what I did was the following: manually download source of kdelibs | 19:55 |
| sgclark | kdeuser56: I am not an expert myself :( | 19:55 |
| kdeuser56 | sgclark: copy the directory, make the changes and then diff the two paths of the two files changed | 19:56 |
| sgclark | kdeuser56: I am not sure then, I have only worked with git clones | 19:57 |
| sgclark | sorry | 19:57 |
| kdeuser56 | sgclark: thanks anyway | 19:59 |
| * ahoneybun is thinking of wiping windows so he can install kubuntu on his ssd | 20:30 | |
| * mamarley is in favor of that idea. | 20:32 | |
| ahoneybun | I think it would be so much faster | 20:32 |
| mamarley | Linux is *really* fast on an SSD. | 20:33 |
| * mamarley pats his Intel SSD 520 affectionately on its head. | 20:33 | |
| ahoneybun | I mean I use windows for gaming mostly | 20:34 |
| ahoneybun | and I have a ps3 now so | 20:37 |
| mamarley | :( | 20:37 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 20:39 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: huh? | 20:39 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: pastebin error plz | 20:39 |
| * mamarley is opposed to Sony's actions with the PS3 on ideological grounds. | 20:40 | |
| ahoneybun | mamarley: just a gaming machine to me | 20:40 |
| ahoneybun | and I have a vita | 20:41 |
| * mamarley goes back to playing an open-source game on his Kubuntu box... | 20:41 | |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6845857/ | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: what does apt-cache policy libktpcommoninternalprivate-dev say | 20:43 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: N: Unable to locate package libktpcommoninternalprivate-dev | 20:44 |
| shadeslayer | missing s :P | 20:44 |
| shadeslayer | libktpcommoninternalsprivate-dev | 20:44 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6845868/ | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | you're package isn't new enough :) | 20:45 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: right, but I cannot seem to locate the newest, and not being offered it | 20:46 |
| shadeslayer | not even after adding the ppa and running apt-get update? | 20:46 |
| sgclark | I added your PPA, is there another, I do not see it in there, | 20:47 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+sourcepub/3879547/+listing-archive-extra | 20:49 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: oops, I only added src, added deb and the updates are now there, thanks! | 20:51 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 20:51 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/homerun | 20:52 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: yes 13.04 on mah laptops | 21:08 |
| genii | Didn't it reach EOL now? | 21:12 |
| jackyalcine | genii: not yet | 21:21 |
| genii | Well, I guess they haven't archived the mirrors yet but AFAIK Jan 27 it was official. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/01/28/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-end-of-life-reached-on-january-27-2014/ | 21:23 |
| jackyalcine | D: | 21:25 |
| jackyalcine | damn | 21:25 |
| jackyalcine | welp I'm not on it ;) | 21:25 |
| genii | This shift to the nine months probably was the "gotcha" there :) | 21:28 |
| tester56 | what do you think: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115408/ ? | 21:28 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: alot of out-of-date-standards-version, something to be concerned with? | 21:32 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: not really, I want to keep delta low with Debian | 21:33 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: so that when they bump it, we can merge more easily | 21:33 |
| sgclark | ok | 21:33 |
| shadeslayer | and IIRC no major changes between 3.9.4 and 3.9.5 | 21:33 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: ktp-contact-applet does not appear to be available for trusty? | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: http://download.kde.org/stable/kde-telepathy/0.7.1/src/ < no ktp-contact-applet? | 21:45 |
| sgclark | ahh that would be why then :) | 21:46 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion muon 2.1.3 | 23:55 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1274761 | 23:55 |
| Riddell | sgclark: there's something needing packaging and testing ↑ | 23:57 |
| sgclark | Riddell: on it | 23:58 |
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