| bazhang | ubottu, lag | 01:48 |
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| knome | ETOOMUCHLAG | 01:49 |
| bazhang | bot seems to be down | 01:49 |
| ubottu | You have lag, I don't have lag | 01:52 |
| knome | there we go. | 01:52 |
| knome | only 4 min lag. | 01:52 |
| bazhang | hah | 01:53 |
| === LjL-Hybrid is now known as LjL-Touch | ||
| === rww is now known as rwd | ||
| === rwd is now known as rww | ||
| === h00k is now known as CaptainHook | ||
| === CaptainHook is now known as CaptainH00k | ||
| === CaptainH00k is now known as h00k | ||
| Myrtti | whee it worked | 09:43 |
| * ikonia touches LjL-Touch | 13:08 | |
| * LjL-Touch provides haptic feedback | 13:08 | |
| phunyguy | @btlogin | 15:00 |
| LjL-Touch | ;P | 15:00 |
| phunyguy | the bot is broked | 15:01 |
| LjL-Touch | oh woe | 15:01 |
| Pici | wfm | 15:02 |
| phunyguy | how to fix | 15:02 |
| phunyguy | she is not responding to me | 15:03 |
| IdleOne | do @login | 15:03 |
| phunyguy | o | 15:03 |
| phunyguy | @login | 15:03 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 15:03 |
| phunyguy | @btlogin | 15:03 |
| IdleOne | now btlogin | 15:03 |
| * phunyguy headdesks | 15:03 | |
| phunyguy | I must've disconnected or something | 15:04 |
| jussi | the bot had so downtime recently | 15:04 |
| phunyguy | ahh | 15:06 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| Myrtti | k1l: "we won't help you, and the channel owners and ops are free to run their channels as they please" | 17:19 |
| Pici | hm? | 17:21 |
| bazhang | banned for no reason asking in #ubuntu | 17:21 |
| bazhang | correct answer imo would be: /msg the ops ; /msg cs access #channel list , look for +o | 17:22 |
| bazhang | sending to #freenode just creates more nonsense | 17:22 |
| bazhang | Happy Year of the Horse, btw | 17:23 |
| k1l | well, imho its kind of the service from freenode to manage those issues in #freenode | 17:23 |
| LjL-Touch | ^ | 17:23 |
| k1l | or more: it should be | 17:23 |
| bazhang | but they would not actually interfere | 17:23 |
| Pici | IMO, it depends how much noise it is causing in the channel. | 17:23 |
| LjL-Touch | it's not my business whether or not staff actully decide to deal with / have a look at the issue | 17:23 |
| bazhang | so to get out of #ubuntu and elsewhere, possibly | 17:23 |
| bazhang | to solve it, what I said | 17:23 |
| LjL-Touch | well, to solve it, #freenode is the place where someone should be guided through the whole /msg cs access thing etc | 17:24 |
| bazhang | NEIGH!!111 | 17:24 |
| LjL-Touch | not Ubuntu. that's about as offtopic as installing Windows | 17:24 |
| bazhang | </frau bluchner> | 17:24 |
| bazhang | or just PM them and tell them | 17:25 |
| ikonia | is this the guy asking for help with ubuntu but he says he's banned ? | 17:25 |
| ikonia | he said he's using ubuntu, so surly we can help him ? | 17:25 |
| bazhang | ikonia, banned somewehre else | 17:25 |
| LjL-Touch | what | 17:25 |
| Pici | ikonia: they were just pestering us in #freenode about being banned from ##physics. | 17:25 |
| ikonia | but he's using ubuntu and wants help with ubuntu ? or something else ? | 17:25 |
| bazhang | not to do with ubuntu that I can see | 17:25 |
| ikonia | ahhh so he doesn't want help with ubuntu | 17:25 |
| ikonia | ok | 17:25 |
| Pici | k1l: that won't work | 17:26 |
| k1l | yes, didnt whois first if that is a webchat | 17:26 |
| Pici | okay ;) | 17:26 |
| LjL-Touch | Pici: why won't it? i thought the ident encoded the IP | 17:27 |
| * Pici pokes LjL-Touch's brain | 17:27 | |
| LjL-Touch | no, really | 17:27 |
| LjL-Touch | it's the IP in hex ;( | 17:27 |
| k1l | but again: i dont know of any "i am banned in #other-channel, help me" issue that was resolved with one line so far. so stopng the offtopic and sending them to #freenode is the right way, imho | 17:27 |
| k1l | LjL-Touch: there are excepts for webchats | 17:28 |
| Pici | LjL-Touch: Do your bots remove the +e when something matching that user is quieted? it hasn't in the past. | 17:28 |
| LjL-Touch | OH RIGHT | 17:28 |
| k1l | and if you kick a webchat the floodbots remove that except for that ip | 17:28 |
| LjL-Touch | well i can't be expected to know the subtleties related to how some bots that i wrote operate | 17:28 |
| Pici | ;) | 17:28 |
| k1l | but i would like the bots to remove the except when someone is muted. yes | 17:28 |
| LjL-Touch | exempt* | 17:29 |
| LjL-Touch | k1l, they do, but the mute needs to be by nickname | 17:29 |
| LjL-Touch | because most of our mutes used to be like that, so that's what thye look for | 17:29 |
| Pici | Instead of making chanegs to the bots, we probably should update the procedure now that IP bans sort of work on gateway users now | 17:29 |
| k1l | hmm, i use chanserv.py which automatically mutes the ident | 17:30 |
| IdleOne | /cs mute -n $user | 17:32 |
| ChallengerSS | hey | 17:33 |
| ChallengerSS | I think a terrible mistake happened | 17:33 |
| Pici | How can we help you? | 17:33 |
| ChallengerSS | it seems the op ikonia may have overstepped its boundaries before | 17:34 |
| ChallengerSS | I was asking a proper question about Ubuntu before | 17:34 |
| Myrtti | I didn't see anything like that happening | 17:34 |
| Pici | It looked like you were trying to get unbanned in a channel that has nothing to do with #ubuntu | 17:34 |
| ChallengerSS | Why do all these channels have the exact same people | 17:35 |
| IdleOne | because we all maintain the same channels | 17:35 |
| IdleOne | or did you think #ubuntu had one op? | 17:36 |
| Myrtti | I was going to give a witty answer but the joke would have been lost | 17:36 |
| LjL-Touch | Pici: i do suspect at this point, that whole part of the floodbots could be done away with | 17:36 |
| ChallengerSS | I mean I go to #freenode and Pici and Myrtti are there | 17:36 |
| phunyguy | as am I | 17:37 |
| ChallengerSS | I go to #ubuntu and ... Pici and Myrtti are there | 17:37 |
| phunyguy | :) | 17:37 |
| LjL-Touch | ChallengerSS: #freenode is free for people to join | 17:37 |
| Pici | ChallengerSS: I like to help people in #freenode. | 17:37 |
| ChallengerSS | Now I go to #ubuntu-ops and... guess who is here | 17:37 |
| hggdh | and so am I | 17:37 |
| Myrtti | ChallengerSS: it's not surprising that #ubuntu ops are in ... #ubuntu-ops | 17:37 |
| LjL-Touch | given they are #ubuntu ops, i don't find it very surprising they are in #ubuntu-ops | 17:37 |
| Myrtti | ChallengerSS: neither is it surprising that #ubuntu ops are in #freenode | 17:37 |
| phunyguy | Especially Myrtti, who is Freenode staff | 17:38 |
| Myrtti | it's not really too illogical | 17:38 |
| LjL-Touch | maybe that's the problem | 17:38 |
| LjL-Touch | freenode is generally assumed to BE illogical ;( | 17:38 |
| Myrtti | LjL-Touch: but I'm a Finn. I excel at logic and pragmatism. | 17:38 |
| ChallengerSS | Can I be honest | 17:38 |
| Myrtti | most of the time anyway | 17:38 |
| * LjL-Touch refrains from commenting | 17:38 | |
| IdleOne | Would be nice | 17:38 |
| Myrtti | I love you too, LjL-Touch | 17:38 |
| LjL-Touch | ChallengerSS: i'm pretty sure you can | 17:38 |
| IdleOne | Can we stay on topic here and help ChallengerSS | 17:39 |
| LjL-Touch | IdleOne: i'm pretty sure we can | 17:39 |
| ChallengerSS | I didn't like it when in #freenode someone mentioned the ##Physics op | 17:39 |
| ChallengerSS | It alerted Metaleer | 17:39 |
| ChallengerSS | :( | 17:39 |
| LjL-Touch | okay...? | 17:39 |
| k1l | ChallengerSS: can you sum up what the actually issue is with you and the #ubuntu channels? | 17:40 |
| k1l | #freenode is not run by the #ubuntu ops. so if there is a problem please talk to the freenode staff | 17:41 |
| Pici | and ##physics is not run by Ubuntu ops either. | 17:41 |
| LjL-Touch | and neither is #ubuntu | 17:41 |
| LjL-Touch | wait | 17:41 |
| LjL-Touch | sorry i am confused, im trying to get used to cars driving on the right again | 17:42 |
| ChallengerSS | Are any of you friendly with the ##physics operators? | 17:43 |
| ChallengerSS | : - ) | 17:43 |
| LjL-Touch | not me | 17:44 |
| IdleOne | We can't help you get unbanned there, speak to the ops of that channel | 17:44 |
| hggdh | ChallengerSS: I am sorry, but I do not understand what being friends with ops in other namespaces have to do with us | 17:44 |
| ChallengerSS | `_` | 17:44 |
| Myrtti | from experience as a Ubuntu op I can tell you one thing - that you need to personally talk to an op instead of asking someone else to be your attorney | 17:44 |
| ChallengerSS | I already have | 17:44 |
| ChallengerSS | And none of them listen to me | 17:44 |
| ChallengerSS | :( | 17:44 |
| Myrtti | there you go then. | 17:44 |
| Myrtti | wait and sit it out | 17:44 |
| phunyguy | They are allowed to not listen. | 17:44 |
| ChallengerSS | I also have a right to be in their channel | 17:45 |
| Myrtti | whatever gave you that idea? | 17:45 |
| k1l | ChallengerSS: no. you have no right | 17:45 |
| phunyguy | yeah that's not true at all. | 17:45 |
| LjL-Touch | FREE SPINACH | 17:46 |
| phunyguy | There is a reason channels have operators. The operators get to dictate who is allowed in the channel. Not the end user. | 17:46 |
| phunyguy | again, it is beyond the scope of this channel. | 17:46 |
| hggdh | more, it is beyond the scope of *any* #ubuntu-* channel | 17:47 |
| phunyguy | ^ | 17:47 |
| ChallengerSS | Why does everyone say the same | 17:47 |
| LjL-Touch | it is even beyond the microscope and the telescope | 17:47 |
| ChallengerSS | It's like all you people cover the asses of the physics operator | 17:47 |
| phunyguy | ChallengerSS: because they are speaking the truth. | 17:47 |
| LjL-Touch | make your own channel about conspiracy theories perhaps | 17:48 |
| hggdh | ChallengerSS: anyway, there is nothing for you here. Your problem is elsewhere, so I suggest you go elsewhere and solve it. | 17:49 |
| LjL-Touch | that worked! | 17:49 |
| k1l | ChallengerSS: that is common sense, that not ops from other channels will reveal a ban for you. talk to the operators. if they dont think you should get back in its your problem. think about your actions before you are banned | 17:49 |
| Myrtti | another satisfied customer | 17:49 |
| phunyguy | <3 | 17:50 |
| LjL-Touch | did you know that the word "satisfy" comes from a compound latin verb basically meaning "having had enough" | 17:51 |
| phunyguy | I did not. | 17:51 |
| LjL-Touch | satis+fio | 17:52 |
| LjL-Touch | like in satiate | 17:52 |
| IdleOne | I can tell you that I was satisfied with how the situation was handled by some of the ops | 17:53 |
| IdleOne | I would appreciate less satisfaction next time | 17:53 |
| LjL-Touch | that's satisfying | 17:53 |
| phunyguy | "some"? | 17:55 |
| IdleOne | I said what I meant | 17:55 |
| phunyguy | and you meant what you said. | 17:55 |
| LjL-Touch | phunyguy he's being annoyed at my jocularity about the event | 17:55 |
| phunyguy | I know. :) | 17:55 |
| LjL-Touch | but that's fair since i'm being jocular about his annoyance | 17:56 |
| IdleOne | not about it | 17:56 |
| IdleOne | during | 17:56 |
| LjL-Touch | oh wait so you mean i should only poke fun at and mock the person while they aren't listening | 17:56 |
| LjL-Touch | yeah i'm sorry, for a moment i forgot that's the ubuntu policy | 17:57 |
| IdleOne | no, we shouldn't mock anyone | 17:57 |
| IdleOne | except the voiced in -offtopic of course | 17:58 |
| LjL-Touch | wow that train is like... on Mars, by now? | 17:58 |
| LjL-Touch | Saturn maybe | 17:58 |
| phunyguy | That's because people enjoy it. | 17:58 |
| LjL-Touch | oh god that red thing means frenocha is highlighting me | 17:59 |
| LjL-Touch | wish me luck | 17:59 |
| * phunyguy giggles | 17:59 | |
| LjL-Touch | oh | 17:59 |
| LjL-Touch | no it's just this idiotic window client putting highlights in the wrong places ;( | 17:59 |
| rww | 17:36:27 < LjL-Touch> Pici: i do suspect at this point, that whole part of the floodbots could be done away with | 20:09 |
| LjL-Touch | don't say it | 20:09 |
| rww | LjL-Touch: the IP-ban-working-properly thing would only work if we switched to IP bans and stopped using hostname bans | 20:09 |
| LjL-Touch | i guess | 20:10 |
| rww | so there's still some use for them, assuming we take as true that they're useful in the first place | 20:10 |
| rww | (that was the snark you expect, I assume) | 20:10 |
| LjL-Touch | mhm | 20:10 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu+1, rww said: !volunteer is <alias> contribute | 21:00 |
| Pici | :| | 21:00 |
| * rww hits ubottu with a spoon | 21:00 | |
| rww | @login | 21:00 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 21:00 |
| rww | !volunteer is <alias> contribute | 21:00 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, rww | 21:00 |
| LjL-Touch | hey if i pay someone a tribute but i don't really mean it, do i contribute | 21:01 |
| rww | depends, do you have a convergent UI for your tribute | 21:02 |
| Pici | is the tribute in a cryptocurrency? | 21:02 |
| LjL-Touch | if i look at it with my eye crossed | 21:02 |
| LjL-Touch | Pici: lolcoin | 21:02 |
| LjL-Touch | wait no | 21:02 |
| LjL-Touch | we are aiming for a currency not worth anything, right? | 21:03 |
| LjL-Touch | euro | 21:03 |
| Myrtti | Dunning-Krugerrands FOR THE UNIVERSE | 21:05 |
| tonyyarusso | It's always a bad sign when I understand what's happening in here even less than -offtopic. | 21:33 |
| Myrtti | which part did you miss? | 21:34 |
| Myrtti | I blame Corey. | 21:35 |
| tonyyarusso | Right now I'm reading the wiki entry for Dunning-Krugerrand Effect | 21:35 |
| Myrtti | Dunning-Kruger | 21:35 |
| Myrtti | next one is Krugerrand | 21:35 |
| tonyyarusso | err, Dunning-Kruger effect and another article on Krugerrands | 21:35 |
| tonyyarusso | right | 21:35 |
| Myrtti | innit great? | 21:35 |
| Myrtti | I blame Corey for teaching me that | 21:35 |
| Myrtti | it's the most delicious and apt portmanteau | 21:36 |
| tonyyarusso | I just closed both tabs. Without clicking any of the links. I emerge victorious over the tempations of wiki! | 21:38 |
| Myrtti | I salute you | 21:39 |
| Corey | Yay! | 21:39 |
| tonyyarusso | and now I'm reading scrollback and narrowly avoided spewing my drink all over my laptop upon reading LjL-Touch's "FREE SPINACH" remark... | 21:40 |
| Myrtti | IKR! | 21:40 |
| Myrtti | twas funneh | 21:41 |
| LjL-Touch | tonyyarusso: it's what an activist Popeye would say | 21:41 |
| k1l | @mark #ubuntu jeb_bush now instulting me in pm | 21:58 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 21:58 |
| genii | Good night :) | 23:06 |
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