[07:17] <knightwise> morning peeps
[07:18] <mapps> morning
[07:29] <knightwise> hey mapps
[07:29] <knightwise> how are ya
[07:30] <mapps> not bad mate just looking at booking my holiday:)
[07:31] <MartijnVdS> mapps: let me guess.. Ibiza?
[07:31] <MartijnVdS> (morning everyone!)
[07:32] <knightwise> Ibiza :) Cool
[07:32] <knightwise> Mornin MartijnVdS
[07:32] <MartijnVdS> \o knightwise
[07:32] <mapps> yep MartijnVdS
[07:32] <mapps> :D
[07:33] <mapps> i have been for Holland
[07:33] <mapps> so surely Ibiza next
[07:33] <mapps> :)
[07:37] <MartijnVdS> I've been planning my trip to Jersey 8-)
[07:39] <knightwise> Jersey Shore escapades ?
[07:39] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: nah, old Jersey, not new :)
[07:42] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:42] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[07:42] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[07:44] <mapps> why MartijnVdS ?
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> mapps: summer holiday + a concert ticket 8-)
[07:53] <mapps> to se who|?
[07:54] <MartijnVdS> mapps http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/11477796716/
[08:00] <knightwise> Those are some great pictures MartijnVdS
[08:01] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: thanks :)
[08:04] <diplo> Morning all
[08:04] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: I have the one I linked to on my wall at home :)
[08:06] <brobostigon> week three of workfare/mwa here i come,
[08:16] <mapps> ;]
[08:19] <mapps> too many cigarttes again
[08:19] <mapps> :(
[08:19] <mapps> throat hurts
[08:21] <brobostigon> give up,
[08:22] <knightwise> MartijnVdS: they are pretty ! they would look awesome on canvas indeed
[08:26] <mapps> brobostigon, never!
[08:26] <mapps> :)
[08:26]  * mapps has smoked for 12 years...no chance of quitting:)
[08:27] <brobostigon> i gave up last year, when i got together with my ex gf, as she had a young son, and didnt want to smoke around him.
[08:29] <mapps> well
[08:29] <mapps> i mean
[08:29] <mapps> 18-29 ok 11 years
[08:29] <mapps> but still...i dont wanna quit:D
[08:29] <mapps> i just dpont wanna get ill
[08:29] <mapps> :)
[08:53] <MartijnVdS> mapps: then you DO want to quit 8-)
[08:54] <MartijnVdS> mapps: it's cheaper too, allows to go to Ibiza more often
[08:56] <brobostigon> and people are more likely to come near you, as you dont smell, and isnt as anti-social.
[08:57] <mapps> hey MartijnVdS
[08:57] <mapps> i dunno
[08:57] <mapps> i was just thinking about stuff relating to that
[08:58] <mapps> my mother was a big time smoke and she died at 42:((((((((((
[08:58] <mapps> *smoker
[08:58] <brobostigon> exactly.
[08:58] <mapps> yea
[09:00] <mapps> i wouldnt recommend smoking
[09:00] <mapps> :D
[09:01] <mapps> smoking aint cool
[09:03] <dimpy> helo
[09:03] <dimpy> hello
[09:04] <dimpy> i have some problem regarding ubuntu 10.04
[09:04] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: that's an old version! What's the problem?
[09:04] <dimpy> i am not able to connect wifi with it
[09:05] <MartijnVdS> does it see the network, and then not connect?
[09:05] <dimpy> actually i have installed ubuntu 10.04 in vmware workstation
[09:06] <bashrc> 10.04 was a good release
[09:06] <dimpy> whenever i write ifconfig command.. always show that no interface found
[09:07] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: if you're running it in vmware, shouldn't the vmware host do the wifi connection thing, and the guest just use "normal" (virtual) ethernet?
[09:07] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: Also, 10.04 might not support latest VMWare wrt. drivers
[09:08] <dimpy> its been 3 months long i am not able to connect if you could help me
[09:08] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: can you put the output of "ip link show" on pastebin?
[09:09] <dimpy> what is that? btw i am new to ubuntu
[09:10] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Inane Answering Message Day! :-D
[09:10] <DJones> JamesTait: Yeah, ok
[09:10] <DJones> Is that inane enough?
[09:11] <MartijnVdS> Inane in the Membrane
[09:12] <dimpy> can anyone help me???
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> !pastebin
[09:16] <dimpy> i have some problem with that.. paste is not waorking
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: can you post a screenshot somewhere then? If it's a vm, that should be possible
[09:24] <DJones> This is an interesting solution, rather than continue to support old/unsupported version of IE7, a US website is offering to buy new computers for its users who continue to use it http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/30/new_computer_for_ie7/
[09:24] <dimpy> how can i paste screenshot?
[09:24] <DJones> !imagebin | dimpy
[09:25] <dimpy> ho gya
[09:26] <dimpy> i mean done
[09:26] <DJones> You just need to give us the link to the imagebin website now
[09:26] <jussi> I think I have found my new drool item... http://shop.lenovo.com/fi/en/laptops/ideapad/yoga/yoga-11s/
[09:27] <dimpy> here it goes.. http://imagebin.org/289889
[09:27] <DJones> jussi: I was looking at one of those in PC World at the weekend, it looked nice, although the one they had on display looked a bit flimsy (may not have been the exact same model, or could have been overused)
[09:29] <jussi> DJones: yeah - 11 inch is really important for me - 13 is too large. there arent many 11 inch ultrabooks worth mentioning out there - macbook air, vaio pro 11 and this so far are the only ones that are even remotely like what Im after
[09:29] <jussi> (I currently use an old dell 12 inch thing)
[09:34] <dimpy> somebody please help me
[09:34] <MartijnVdS> jussi: there's the XPS12, which is 12" ;)
[09:34] <jussi> DJones: there is a tegra3 version, but way too low power for me I think
[09:35] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: "ip link show", not just "ip"
[09:35] <jussi> MartijnVdS: yes, but that thing is yucky.
[09:36] <dimpy> ip link show command is not working.. what the hell i gonna do?
[09:37] <DJones> jussi: I had a Transformer Prime which was Tegra3, as a tablet it was good and fairly fast, although running android, even so it was considerably slower than my N7 now
[09:37] <directhex> laptops are terrible /o\
[09:37] <jussi> DJones: mind, the screen resolution is poor on that lenovo - I wonder if they have a better version
[09:38] <jussi> DJones: Im not sure I can cope with yet another 1366x768..
[09:38] <MartijnVdS> jussi: is it? I love mine :)
[09:39] <DJones> jussi: Well, if you really want a small screen, I've got a couple of HP Journada's in a box in the loft, screen smaller than a mobile phone, and a speedy as a tortoise
[09:40] <jussi> DJones: :D
[09:40] <jussi> DJones: mind, I know someone who would probably love to buy one of those from you :D
[09:43] <DJones> Heh
[09:44] <dimpy> here it is..
[09:44] <dimpy> http://imagebin.org/289892
[09:46] <dimpy> problem with ubuntu?
[09:46] <dimpy> anyone's there ?
[09:47] <SuperMatt> that's quite a fun issue you have there
[09:47] <directhex> ?
[09:47] <SuperMatt> also: that's quite an old version of ubuntu you have there
[09:47] <SuperMatt> I'm not sure it's even supported
[09:48] <dimpy> what i am gonna do then?
[09:49] <directhex> what's the problem?
[09:49] <directhex> oh, right, 10.04
[09:49] <directhex> how old's the laptop?
[09:50] <directhex> wait wait hang on... vmware?
[09:50] <directhex> vmware doesn't emulate wifi
[09:50] <directhex> it emulates a wired network card which runs through your default host network adapter. if your wifi works on your host, it'll show up as wired in the vmware image
[09:50] <dimpy> lol..the laptop is not old
[09:50] <DJones> dimpy: Is there a specific reason you've not updated to at least 12.04, just for information, 10.04 stopped being supported and updated for desktops in May 2013
[09:50] <dimpy> yep
[09:51] <SuperMatt> wow, I guess that version is still supported in the server
[09:51] <monotoko> I was running some 8.04 servers until last year
[09:51] <directhex> dimpy, i'm failing to understand what your actual problem is
[09:52] <DJones> SuperMatt: yep still got another 12 +bit months for that
[09:53] <dimpy> actually i have just install ubuntu 10.04 in vmware workstation not in my lappy.. and i want wifi connection in my ubuntu which i find impossible
[09:54] <SuperMatt> try a more modern release...
[09:54] <directhex> dimpy, vmware doesn't do that.
[09:55] <directhex> dimpy, when you configured your VM, you will have told it to use NAT since it's the default. vmware emulates a wired network card (a vmnet adapter). it doesn't matter whether your host PC is connected via wired, wireless, fibre, whatever - the VM only sees its own wired connection, which will work as long as your host OS has a network connection of some kind
[09:58] <dimpy> yaar what i am gonna do then?
[09:58] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: That depends, what do you want to do?
[09:58] <MartijnVdS> !xy
[09:59] <dimpy> actually its my final year project..
[09:59] <dimpy> vmware cant configured wireless?
[10:00] <directhex> dimpy, no, it can't.
[10:00] <dimpy> thanks for helping anyway
[10:00] <directhex> dimpy, how is an emulated wireless card supposed to know which real physical wireless networks exist?
[10:01] <dimpy> yea.. you're right
[10:01] <dimpy> so you suggest as i have to do in vmware only
[10:01] <SuperMatt> dimpy: what *is* your final year project
[10:01] <dimpy> or else i have to do partitioning
[10:02] <dimpy> simultation environment
[10:02] <dimpy> using ns2
[10:03] <directhex> natural selection 2 the game?
[10:03] <MartijnVdS> nameserver 2?
[10:03] <dimpy> no not natural selection its network simulator
[10:04] <Laney> oof, snow is picking up
[10:08] <bigcalm> Snow has left us now
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> we haven't had any yet \o/
[10:09] <dimpy> are you guys all Ubuntu experts?
[10:10] <bigcalm> No, we just like using Ubuntu :)
[10:10] <bigcalm> Some people have more experience than others
[10:11] <MartijnVdS> some people know a lot though
[10:11] <bigcalm> Some people call me the space cowboy
[10:11] <dimpy> okay, i find ubuntu tough to work with
[10:11] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: what do you find tough about it?
[10:12] <dimpy> how to use it.. as i am stuck with this netwroking problem :(
[10:13] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: Maybe if you wrote a longer explanation of what you want to do, we can help better?
[10:14] <dimpy> hehe.. you want me to write?
[10:14] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: like what do you want to connect to what? What do you want to do with it? etc.
[10:15] <dimpy> likewise how to connect to internet in it...also what is this atheros driver?
[10:23] <directhex> is he dim? @_@
[10:24] <MartijnVdS> directhex: I think "virtualization" might be a hard concept
[10:24] <MartijnVdS> directhex: That VMs only see the virtual "hardware", not the real hardware of the machine they run on
[10:25] <foobarry> nothing more frustrating that following an incomplete build doc
[10:25] <foobarry> suddenly trail goes cold and you're left trying to fathom what the heck is happening
[10:26] <dimpy> can i do with bridged networking :)
[10:26] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: that's probably not supported with wifi, because of how the protocol works
[10:28] <directhex> you can bridge onto a wireless adapter, but it'll still behave as a wired adapter, and rely on the host to be associated with an SSID
[10:28] <directhex> iirc
[10:28] <dimpy> big deal.. connect toh ho jaega
[10:29] <MartijnVdS> directhex: won't work, multiple mac addresses on a wifi client would require multiple sessions to the AP
[10:29] <MartijnVdS> or "4-address mode", aka WDS
[10:31] <dimpy> what is WDS?
[10:31] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_distribution_system
[10:31] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: not supported on most "normal" clients though, especially in Windows.
[10:32] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: also, the access point needs to be set up right
[10:32] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: if both the AP and the client are atheros, and run Linux, it's possible to set it up on the *host* (the guest still won't see wifi)
[10:33] <dimpy> see i have to simulate ns2 in ubuntu..how can i do that?
[10:35] <directhex> on real tin?
[10:35] <directhex> does ns2 *really* require a wireless network card, not wired?
[10:36] <dimpy> not like that but i can have only wireless available to me
[10:37] <MartijnVdS> if it's a network *simulator*, why would it require network at all?
[10:37] <dimpy> actually i need to create a virtual environment
[10:38] <MartijnVdS> so you create a bunch of VMs, and configure their (virtual) network devices in vmware, then set up IPs/vlans/etc. inside the VMs, done?
[10:39] <dimpy> are you making my problem more easier or more tougher?
[10:41] <MartijnVdS> easier, I think?
[10:44] <dimpy> arghhh..frustrated with my project
[10:45] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: My only suggestion is to divide your problem into smaller steps
[10:46] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: then take the smaller step, and then the next, etc.
[10:46] <dimpy> are you a student?
[10:46] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: If the problem is still hard, divide it into steps again, and do those separately
[10:46] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: I was one once
[10:47] <dimpy> so.. should i install ubuntu directly into my lappy?
[10:47] <MartijnVdS> dimpy: that depends on what you want to do (which we still don't have a clear idea of..)
[10:47] <directhex> there is a third way
[10:48] <directhex> you can pass real USB devices through to your emulated OS
[10:48] <directhex> so you could buy a linux-compatible USB wifi stick, and pass that through to emulated ubuntu
[10:50] <dimpy> thanks i'l try
[11:05] <shauno> wildly off-topic but I gotta ask; any suggestions for http proxy software which will authenticate users against a windows domain?  (pref. free since it's going to last 2-3 hours in a lab)
[11:10] <MartijnVdS> shauno: apache should be able to do that
[11:11] <diplo> Squid? I set my squid at the last place to auth via Windows AD
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> shauno: http://blog.karssen.org/2010/03/03/using-windows-ad-for-apache-authentication/ ?
[11:12] <shauno> hm didn't know squid will do that;  I'll probably stick to that then, since they'll be my go-to for other auth methods too
[11:13] <MartijnVdS> shauno: apache's mod_proxy is easy if you know apache configs though
[11:25] <shauno> I suspect I've bitten off more than I can chew
[11:30] <diplo> shauno: Wasn't quick to set up, but once setup it worked well
[11:33] <shauno> I'm not sure I even want to admit where I'm stuck.  my lack of familiarity with Windows is hilarious
[11:38] <daftykins> i think smoothwall used to offer a transparent squid caching proxy
[11:42] <foobarry> tomcat app gives a 404. should it be in /usr/share/tomcat or /var/lib/tomcat?
[11:52] <awilkins> ~tomcat
[11:52] <awilkins> ~tomcat7
[11:52] <awilkins> (wherever that is)
[11:59] <foobarry> hmm,. i think i have bigger issues
[12:06] <foobarry> does grooveshark let me buy songs?
[12:06] <foobarry> has a song i can't find elsewhere
[12:07] <shauno> note to self: never, ever claim I know the first thing about msft platforms.  I just had to sneakernet chrome across because I couldn't figure out how to get IE to let me download it
[12:08] <daftykins> !?
[12:08] <daftykins> which IE on which 'dows? :)
[12:08] <neuro> what was wrong with going to google.com/chrome
[12:09] <neuro> i've done that many a time
[12:09] <daftykins> they have some funky thing which bypasses most security questions and just runs an installer app auto
[12:09] <neuro> yeah it's a standard ms "install stuff off the web" thingy
[12:09] <neuro> been about for years
[12:09] <shauno> server 2012 r2.  it keeps telling me I need to add the site to a list, but adding it doesn't seem to do much
[12:10] <neuro> aah security restrictions probably
[12:11] <shauno> so very glad I've boxed off this lab lan quite nicely, because I have dangerously little clue what I'm doing
[12:11] <daftykins> ah yes *that* thing
[12:11] <shauno> er, they've boxed off ..
[12:12] <neuro> http://blog.blksthl.com/2012/11/28/how-to-disable-ie-enhanced-security-in-windows-server-2012/
[12:12] <neuro> first hit on google for "windows server 2012 ie enhanced security disable"
[12:12] <shauno> easy answer; plug in usb stick, install stuffs :)
[12:12] <daftykins> ^
[12:13] <neuro> lame :)
[12:13] <daftykins> nah, you should leave IE in its' default state imo
[12:14] <daftykins> bypass using it altogether ;)
[12:14] <Laney> urg, the house stinks of bleach now
[12:14] <neuro> you only have to disable it for the time it takes to install chrome
[12:14] <shauno> it's a bunch of VMs that'll be nuked before I leave today.  getting it working > doing it properly
[12:15] <daftykins> Laney: heh how nuts did you go?
[12:15] <neuro> you could probably have googled and disabled and downloaded and installed and re-enabled in the time it took you to sneakernet it ;)
[12:15] <Laney> daftykins: quite!
[12:15] <Laney> did some de-mildewing on the wall and curtains with a spray
[12:16] <daftykins> oic
[12:16]  * daftykins glues neuro to his chair
[12:17]  * neuro hulks the hell out of the chair
[13:02] <foobarry> anyone signed into oyster web site lately? its asking me to setup new stuff, which is v suspicious
[13:17] <diddledan> foobarry: they need to know your shoesize to determine the best size of escalator on the underground
[13:17] <Laney> give up
[13:18] <Laney> I tried to recover my oyster account details but can't do it
[13:18] <Laney> no idea what postcode they have
[13:18] <monotoko> "TE 11 ST"
[13:18] <monotoko> someone did an UPDATE and forgot to add a WHERE statement
[13:19] <Laney> on the live database!
[13:19] <dwatkins> I managed to accidentally swap Oyster cards with someone, thankfully I hadn't enabled automatic top-ups.
[13:20] <diddledan> o_O
[13:20] <monotoko> UPDATE card SET customer='dwatkins';
[13:20] <monotoko> ... I've dealt with too much SQL today :(
[13:20] <dwatkins> heh
[13:20] <daftykins> :D
[13:21]  * Laney will be in the big scary london tomorrow
[13:21] <dwatkins> I logged in and could see where the guy had been. We swapped the cards back, though.
[13:21] <dwatkins> I went in to London on Friday, spent most of the day driving there, having lunch then driving back.
[13:21] <monotoko> Laney: I'm going to China in a month
[13:21] <dwatkins> (I was staying in Reading, so not so far as it would usually be from Edinburgh)
[13:21] <Laney> monotoko: is that as big and scary?
[13:22] <Laney> I guess it's a little bit bigger :P
[13:22] <monotoko> Laney: just a little bit, then I've got to travel 1000 miles across China
[13:22] <monotoko> :(
[13:22] <diddledan> dwatkins: they need a system like banks that whenever you use your oyster card "unusually" it blocks it for "fraud prevention purposes" :-) (by "unusually" my bank tends to replace the meaning with "normally")
[13:23] <daftykins> ^
[13:23] <daftykins> same here
[13:23] <daftykins> i've actually gotten a refund for the wasted time after their staff did it to me last
[13:23] <diddledan> nice
[13:23] <daftykins> just a standard online order from a retailer i'd spent with for years
[13:24] <daftykins> so i said enough was enough, you're causing me hassle. refund me
[13:24] <diddledan> yeah, they seem to refuse payments that happen every month
[13:24] <dwatkins> I assume everyone's seen the 'Oyster card ring' where someone melted the plastic and made a ring for their RFID chip
[13:24] <daftykins> so they calculate a rate per hour and ask you how much time you had wasted
[13:24] <dwatkins> http://www.ds72.com/latest-work/oyster-ring
[13:25] <daftykins> hehehe
[13:29] <monotoko> the bank will happily let me spend a grand online, but won't let me spend £20 at
[13:29] <monotoko> Morrisons
[13:29] <daftykins> lol
[13:43] <foobarry> for 3 years in a row i couldn't buy my annual osyeter card
[13:45] <shauno> I still haven't convinced my bank that no, making significant purchases at 3am isn't an unusual pattern
[13:46] <SuperMatt> shauno: especially if you do it all the time
[13:47] <daftykins> maybe they identify it as the 'late night drunken purchases people regret'
[13:47] <daftykins> so they're trying to 'help' :D
[13:48] <diplo> hah, thought IRC had gone quiet.. disconnected but hadn't displayed broken pipe :/
[13:48] <daftykins> D:
[13:48] <MartijnVdS> diplo: aww :)
[13:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> any git gurus around? I have a remote branch and I want to compare it to the master before I do a git pull (One thing I miss from svn, being able to update individual files/dirs)...
[13:50] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: "git log branch ^otherbranch" shows all csets not in otherbranch that are in branch
[13:50] <MartijnVdS> uh
[13:50] <MartijnVdS> yes, "all changesets in branch that are not in otherbranch"
[13:50] <MartijnVdS> also works with diff
[13:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> git log master origin
[13:51] <MartijnVdS> the ^ is important
[13:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oh
[13:51] <MartijnVdS> so you probably want: git log my_local_branch ^origin/master
[13:52] <TheOpenSourcerer> So I see the following:
[13:52] <TheOpenSourcerer> * master
[13:52] <TheOpenSourcerer>   remotes/origin/HEAD -> origin/master
[13:52] <TheOpenSourcerer>   remotes/origin/master
[13:53] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: that's "git branch -v"?
[13:53] <TheOpenSourcerer> git branch -a
[13:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> When I do "git log master ^origin/master" I get nothing
[13:54] <MartijnVdS> and "git log origin/master ^master" ?
[13:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nothing
[13:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> When I remove the ^ I get some stuff but not as much as I was expecting
[13:58] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/315911/git-for-beginners-the-definitive-practical-guide
[13:58] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9190735/git-compare-commit-id-between-branches
[13:59] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/822811/showing-which-files-have-changed-between-git-branches
[13:59] <TheOpenSourcerer> Thanks but Weird.
[14:00] <TheOpenSourcerer> $:~/code$ git log origin/master...master
[14:00] <TheOpenSourcerer> $:~/code$ git log master...origin/master
[14:00] <TheOpenSourcerer> nada
[14:00] <MartijnVdS> then there's nothing in origin/master that's not in master
[14:01] <MartijnVdS> maybe you need to git fetch --all first
[14:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> OK
[14:01] <MartijnVdS> (or git fetch origin)
[14:08] <diddledan> how very dare he. someone stole my name! http://www.news-herald.com/general-news/20140130/lake-metroparks-see-increase-of-night-activity-without-increase-in-crime
[14:09] <daftykins> someone diddled diddledan!?
[14:09] <diddledan> last I checked, not only am I not an american but I don't believe I'm a chief ranger either
[14:09] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: well, he kind of asked for it with his name
[14:10] <diddledan> daftykins: I'm forever being diddled
[14:10] <daftykins> diddledan: are you related to Desmond?
[14:10] <diddledan> not that I know of
[14:10] <daftykins> you should look into that
[14:10] <diddledan> yeah
[14:10] <daftykins> you could be saying - great uncle Q!
[14:10] <diddledan> he was awesome
[14:12] <daftykins> "that's my lunch!"
[14:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> MartijnVdS: Thanks. It was my own bad! I'd already pulled that remote repo. Just not symlinked the modified files to the production app :-(
[14:18] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: time to catch it all in a small script and teach that to chef? :)
[14:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[14:18] <MartijnVdS> chef <3
[14:20] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: it can watch a certain branch in a git repo, and run scripts/update files/etc. when it changes. Among a million other things ;0
[14:20] <MartijnVdS> ;)
[14:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nah - don't want it to automatically do that!
[14:20] <MartijnVdS> it could though. It can trigger on lots of other things as well
[14:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> OK - I have heard you mention chef before. Will defo look into it.
[15:29] <daftykins> new boiler = amazing \o/
[15:29] <daftykins> i can't even hear it O_O
[15:29] <diddledan> parden?
[15:30] <diddledan> spelling
[15:30] <diddledan> pardon?
[15:31] <bigcalm> I wish we couldn't hear our heating. It's the pipes expanding/contracting under the floor boards that keep my wife awake
[15:32] <foobarry> i hear mine thruogh earplugs
[15:32] <foobarry> i wouldn't have it on at night but baby
[15:32] <popey> talc fixes that
[15:33] <foobarry> on the baby?
[15:33] <shauno> I forgot to pay my oil bill.  no more squeaky pipes!
[15:33] <popey> on the pipes
[15:33] <diddledan> shauno: is that why you're using the open fire?
[15:33] <shauno> bingo
[15:34] <bigcalm> popey: good idea, still means taking up the floor boards though :)
[15:34] <popey> get a man in
[15:35]  * bigcalm phones his dad
[15:35] <diddledan> bigcalm: lol, that's my method, too
[15:36] <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/102395890176622666938/posts/6PqiqDfKN9x
[15:36] <diddledan> I hate to imagine when I get kids relying on me for DIY skillz
[15:36] <foobarry> i wake up when an spider farts downstairs
[15:36] <foobarry> there's no hope for me
[15:36] <foobarry> was wide awake at 5am this morning until 20 mins before alarm
[15:39] <diddledan> I'm not sure I could cope with cloud-to-butt
[15:39] <diddledan> I'm assuming his own stream read "the butt to butt extension"
[15:40] <bashrc> but it's not water vapour
[15:40] <bigcalm> popey: wtf?
[15:40] <shauno> can confirm google results "Chrome Web Store - Butt to Butt Plus" as the first result
[15:40] <awilkins> I hear next doors heating, or something
[15:41] <awilkins> THey have some appliance that makes the house vibrate at the resonant frequency of my skull
[15:41] <awilkins> Which is kind of annoying
[15:41] <awilkins> Being British I'm too polite to go and say "Hey, could you maybe shove a piece of cardboard under it
[15:42] <awilkins> Would have to confront the fact that I hear them shouting and throwing things
[15:42] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: anonymously send them some rubber feet in the mail
[15:42] <diddledan> awilkins: probably the washing machine?
[15:42] <awilkins> I guess it's their dryer
[15:42] <awilkins> Or heating
[15:42] <awilkins> On a timer, because it goes off in the middle of the night
[15:53] <foobarry> FAIL - Encountered exception org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to start component [StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost[localhost].StandardContext[/transmart]]
[15:53] <foobarry> can't start a tomcat webapp ...any suggestions where to look?
[15:54] <diddledan> foobarry: the logfile :-p
[15:55] <foobarry> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Doc base must point to a WAR file
[15:55] <foobarry> ooh a new error
[16:04] <daftykins> oh wow that was the best shower i've ever had 8D
[16:05] <diddledan> o_O
[16:05] <daftykins> new boiler = amazing
[16:07] <awilkins> Whee : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/30/uk_picks_open_document_format_for_all_government_files/
[16:08] <diddledan> awilkins: I was just reading a topic on ubuntu-uk mailing list over that
[16:08] <awilkins> Maybe they'll do as I keep saying they should and allocate about 5% of their MS Office budget to funding an office of LibreOffice development instead
[16:08] <awilkins> £5M a year would buy some serious development
[16:11] <daftykins> :D
[16:13] <popey> I have a file called ~ in my /
[16:13] <popey> I am scared to delete it
[16:14] <foobarry> lol
[16:14] <foobarry> rm -i ./~
[16:14] <popey> uh. no.
[16:14] <foobarry> :P
[16:14] <diddledan> -i?
[16:15] <diddledan> aah, interactive
[16:15] <diddledan> popey: rm /\~
[16:15] <diddledan> OR '/~'
[16:16] <diddledan> you need to escape the tilde otherwise it'll expand to your home folder
[16:16] <foobarry> rm -i './~' should work, try it on a vm
[16:17] <diddledan> foobarry: that'll remove it from "current directory" not from "root"
[16:17] <foobarry> yep
[16:17] <foobarry> obv you would cd into that dir
[16:18] <foobarry> you could always try to copy/rename to see if theory works
[16:20] <dwatkins> I'd use 'find' to be sure.
[16:22] <dwatkins> http://hastebin.com/bohuwuvara.txt like that
[17:07] <diddledan> emerge ftl
[17:07]  * diddledan messing in gentoo again
[17:12] <daftykins> heh
[17:12] <daftykins> you masochist
[17:21] <diddledan> my nexus 5 seems to randomly turn on it's screen and accept inputs from my pocket
[17:22] <daftykins> ruh-roh
[17:22] <daftykins> i found my Nexus 4 saying wait 5 seconds to try again on my pattern lock a bit ago
[17:22] <daftykins> it must've done the same
[17:22] <daftykins> pocket been guessing my pattern =/
[17:22] <diddledan> I was in the middle of nowhere and suddenly I heard music playing that wasn't the same music as I had on the car radio
[17:23] <diddledan> it was confusing
[17:24] <diddledan> it seems to turn the screen on with zero pressure on the physical buttons
[17:24] <diddledan> I just moved my iphone off the face of it and it did it again
[17:25] <daftykins> apple :(
[17:25] <diddledan> but it's not the apple that's waking up on it's own :-p
[17:26] <daftykins> i bet imposter diddledan doesn't have anything apple
[17:26] <diddledan> lol
[18:05] <diddledan> http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/16/cos-china-operating-system/
[18:05] <diddledan> love the video intro
[18:07] <shauno> wonder if it'll take off like Red Flag did
[18:22] <MartijnVdS> popey: do you know the status of the Intel/Xorg memory leak bug?
[18:22]  * MartijnVdS doesn't remember the bug 3
[18:22] <MartijnVdS> bug #
[18:26] <MartijnVdS> <- scared of rebooting atm ;)
[18:26] <diddledan> do it
[18:26] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: but memory leak!
[18:27] <popey> MartijnVdS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1272338
[18:27] <diddledan> it'll all get sucked up when you reboot ready to start leaking again
[18:27] <popey> xorg for me is currently a big big
[18:27] <popey>   PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
[18:27] <MartijnVdS> I last rebooted 2 weeks ago
[18:27] <popey>  5591 root      20   0  9.793g 4.374g 180676 S  11.3 28.1 347:36.39 Xorg
[18:27] <MartijnVdS>  1446 root      20   0 5234696 4,215g 2,745g S   1,3 27,7 100:31.72 Xorg
[18:27] <MartijnVdS> hmmm
[18:27] <popey> thats ~48 hours ago
[18:28] <MartijnVdS> 4GB "RES" too.. but way less virt and a lot more shr
[18:45] <popey> "Your travel authorization has been approved and you are authorized to travel to the United States under the Visa Waiver Program"
[18:45] <popey> phew
[18:45] <MartijnVdS> but then again, why would you ;)
[18:47] <diddledan> visa waiver program?
[18:47] <popey> ESTA
[18:48] <popey> https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/
[18:48] <popey> the thing you have to fill in before you go to the USA
[18:48] <popey> and pay for
[18:48] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: yeah, the "We're friends, so you don't need to bend over backwards as far as some other people to get into the US"
[18:48] <MartijnVdS> thing
[18:49] <diddledan> "You plan to travel to the United States for business or pleasure."
[18:50] <diddledan> I like that one, because there isn't much else you can go for
[18:50] <diddledan> I suppose they prescreen people that fill out the form and state that they plan to travel there for crime
[18:50] <popey> work
[18:50] <popey> education
[18:53] <diddledan> oic
[18:53] <diddledan> yeah
[18:53] <diddledan> ok so I'm blonde
[18:53] <diddledan> maybe not physically blonde but mentally at least
[18:54] <popey> we all have our days
[18:54] <diddledan> I'd like to have my day and eat it.... err what?
[18:55] <mapps> ]learning my espana
[18:55] <mapps> :D
[18:55] <mapps> duolingo.com
[18:58] <diddledan> lol @ openssl compile: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib ../../libcrypto.a || echo Never mind.
[19:00] <brobostigon> new tbbt 8pm :)
[19:00] <diddledan> err
[19:01] <diddledan> tomorrow's best bits tonight?
[19:01] <brobostigon> ?
[19:03] <popey> no idea what tbbt is
[19:03] <brobostigon> the big bang theory, the tc comedy.
[19:03] <brobostigon> tv*
[19:03] <mapps> yea
[19:03] <mapps> big bang is good
[19:04] <mapps> bit seen almost every single ep
[19:05] <popey> I've kinda gone off it.
[19:06] <mapps> hi popey - i didnt realise Farnborough was Hants thought it was surrey for some reason
[19:06] <mapps> im in Bisley ..nearish
[19:06] <popey> I can see surrey from here
[19:06] <popey> on the border
[19:06] <mapps> yea
[19:07] <mapps> You sound the same anyway ...:) im guessing you're born in the south?
[19:08] <popey> I was born further south than this
[19:08] <mapps> ah
[19:08] <popey> lived in this area for 30 years
[19:09] <mapps> yea..you're accent sounds basically same as mine
[19:09] <mapps> pleasant surprise..I always get comments up here (stoke) on my accent
[19:09] <popey> heh
[19:09] <mapps> with some clowns even saying i put it on to sound posh!
[19:23] <diddledan> mapps: us southerners _are_ posh
[19:41]  * SuperEngineer splashed out a whole £2.79 to buy Duke Nukem 3D to celebrate the Chinese new Yeare [year of the horse]
[19:41]  * SuperEngineer  is not at all Chinese, but any excuse will do ;)
[19:47] <brobostigon> :)
[19:49] <ali1234> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/zh-CN - no crash here
[19:49] <ali1234> oops, wrong channel
[19:49] <popey> heh
[19:49] <ali1234> i just saw "chinese"
[20:04] <mapps> diddledan,  ;]
[20:10] <ali1234> popey: do you still have backups of all the minecraft worlds from the old servers?
[20:11] <popey> yes
[20:11] <popey> http://popey.com/minecraft/snapshots/
[20:12] <ali1234> cheers
[20:12] <popey> np
[20:30] <popey>  http://popey.com/~alan/2014-01-30_20.28.10.png
[20:30] <popey> odd
[20:30] <popey> whats all that then
[20:32] <diddledan> popey: maybe it's a lost civilisation that's been fossilised?
[20:33] <diddledan> although it's a snow biome so maybe icicles?
[20:33] <diddledan> try some smashy smashy aka punching a tree
[20:36] <ali1234> looks like trees got turned into ice?
[20:37] <diddledan> freeze-ray?
[20:38] <ali1234> dunno. what's the context? new save? or an old one imported?
[20:38] <mapps> never played minecraft
[20:38] <ali1234> it's the best game
[20:41] <popey> is new generated blocks
[20:41] <popey> and they're not trees
[20:42] <ali1234> yeah apparently it's a new biome type
[20:45] <MartijnVdS> the "Frozen wasteland" biome?
[20:47] <popey> oh
[21:00] <webpigeon> http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Biome/Ice_Plains_Spikes
[21:09] <brobostigon> webpigeon: interesting.
[21:09] <webpigeon> Hey brobostigon :)
[21:09] <brobostigon> hey :)
[23:23] <bigcalm> Can anybody help me with this? https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/428944552670814209
[23:28] <daftykins> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-01/enhanced/webdr06/30/14/anigif_enhanced-30527-1391111586-6.gif
[23:28] <diddledan> pmsl
[23:28] <diddledan> that was... unexpected
[23:28] <dutchie> bigcalm: i have plantronics gamecom 780 and they are pretty ok
[23:28] <daftykins> =]
[23:29] <dutchie> only comfortable long term if i don't have glasses on though
[23:30] <bigcalm> dutchie: ah, I have glasses on the entire time I'm at the computer
[23:31] <dutchie> that will probably make it harder i guess
[23:31] <bigcalm> Yep, the cans I am wearing right now feel as though they are crushing my skull :)
[23:31] <diddledan> I can't see the computer if I haven't got glasses on
[23:32] <bigcalm> Great sound quality though
[23:32] <dutchie> i broke my glasses so am full time contact lenses atm
[23:58] <bigcalm> :(