| rick_h_ | waf: www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/1060x596/lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-x1-carbon-2-keyboard-3.jpg | 00:19 |
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| rick_h_ | https://wiki.mozilla.org/CordovaFirefoxOS | 01:14 |
| greg-g | fuck that keyboard | 01:15 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: heh, I was showing waf why I don't have faith in lenovo any more | 01:16 |
| rick_h_ | the fact that the keyboard went through to production, and for sale, on a Thinkpad...is a fireable offense at the min | 01:16 |
| cmaloney | Guarantee someoneover at ZDnet is heralding this as the killer feature | 01:22 |
| jcastro | http://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpadcirclejerk | 01:35 |
| jcastro | this is for you rick_h_ | 01:35 |
| jrwren | i know I should prefer to type easy_install, but pip is so much shorter and easier :) | 01:39 |
| rick_h_ | nope, pip won | 01:41 |
| rick_h_ | uninstall is a darn useful feature | 01:41 |
| jrwren | oh yeah. | 01:44 |
| jrwren | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/timelib/ | 01:44 |
| jrwren | nice module there. | 01:44 |
| cmaloney | howdy.:) | 01:58 |
| stabbinfresh | howdy :) | 02:15 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 12:15 |
| cmaloney | I'm going to start the day by thinking positive thoughts | 12:15 |
| cmaloney | like say for instance this email: http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/albinomoose.asp | 12:15 |
| cmaloney | Received from a family member | 12:15 |
| cmaloney | that wasn't about Obama. | 12:16 |
| cmaloney | Ah | 12:16 |
| cmaloney | ahhhhhh | 12:16 |
| jrwren | happy happy | 14:03 |
| rick_h_ | party party | 14:07 |
| jrwren | pop quiz. | 14:09 |
| jrwren | sudo apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl mysql-client-5.5 mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 python-mysqldb | 14:10 |
| jrwren | why didn't I just apt-get remove libmysqlclient18 | 14:10 |
| jrwren | ? | 14:10 |
| rick_h_ | because you weren't sure? | 14:10 |
| jrwren | nope. | 14:11 |
| jrwren | snmpd depends on it :( | 14:12 |
| jrwren | for some reason /usr/sbin/snmptrapd links against it. I can't imagine wh | 14:13 |
| jrwren | why | 14:13 |
| rick_h_ | scale! | 14:13 |
| jrwren | oh | 14:14 |
| jrwren | The ability to log received traps to a MySQL database was added in Release 5.5 | 14:14 |
| jrwren | oh net-snmp. | 14:14 |
| jrwren | you so silly | 14:14 |
| rick_h_ | heh, flaky as can be but the google now notifications are working | 14:24 |
| widox | rick_h_: yeah, the overall UI changes in the recent update are wonky | 14:28 |
| widox | also not a fan of extra icons all up in my status bar | 14:29 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, in the browser? | 14:30 |
| jcastro | they finally got the app menu to be able to be docked too iirc? | 14:30 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: yea | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: latest canary build | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | widox: yea, it'll settle. This has happened before | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | the extra chrome in the space above the tabs | 14:31 |
| widox | rick_h_: yep, it doesn't "fit" well into my tiling anymore | 14:33 |
| cmaloney | I already run a chrome extension to block that crack | 14:33 |
| cmaloney | (Google Plus notifications) | 14:33 |
| cmaloney | that's all I need is for it to show up in my tray | 14:33 |
| widox | cmaloney: this is more then just G+ stuff, its also the Now cards | 14:34 |
| cmaloney | right, but it'll likely be all or nothing | 14:34 |
| widox | if you use it on your phone for example | 14:34 |
| rick_h_ | right, the cool bit is the reminders I create on my phone are syncd | 14:34 |
| rick_h_ | but it's the now weather, sportsball team updates, etc | 14:34 |
| cmaloney | yeah that would be handy | 14:34 |
| cmaloney | but something telling me someone acknowledged my witticism on G+ is not | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | because I am a delicate flower that must be acknowledged | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | lest I wilt. | 14:35 |
| brousch | How much snow it takes to cancel school http://i.imgur.com/CiuVwRq.png | 14:35 |
| widox | yeah, you can turn that off but not Now notifications | 14:35 |
| widox | so they are independant | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | yeah, but for how long. :) | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | seems plus is pervasive. | 14:36 |
| brousch | Wow. That's some bait and switch. https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebooks.html#pixel $279 | 18:15 |
| brousch | Click Buy: $1299 | 18:15 |
| rick_h_ | how many movies can I get into the tablet...go go go | 18:16 |
| rick_h_ | wow, wtf brousch | 18:16 |
| brousch | I was surpised the price had dropped so much | 18:16 |
| rick_h_ | no kidding | 18:17 |
| brousch | I was ready to pick up 2 of them | 18:18 |
| brousch | Heh, went to reddit to report it and someone already had https://plus.google.com/+RonnieJonesII/posts/Adde5Auns4H | 18:20 |
| cmaloney | bah | 18:36 |
| brousch | The Cr-48 is starting to show its age. Having trouble playing YouTube | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | yea, some people have gotten some of the newer haswell based ones and liking them | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | just make sure to get the ones with a little more GB of ram since multi-tasking is available now | 18:41 |
| brousch | All of the new ones are a pathetic 1366x768 | 18:42 |
| brousch | I guess that's similar to the Cr-48, but I was hoping for better now | 18:42 |
| jrwren | i have to lookup how to PPA, everytime :) | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: makefiles ftw | 18:43 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: how does that help? | 18:43 |
| brousch | sudo add-apt-repository ppa | 18:43 |
| jrwren | brousch: no, submitting | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: don't have to look it up, just make sysdeps | 18:43 |
| brousch | ah | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | oh, submitting for a ppa, nvm | 18:43 |
| brousch | 2leet4me | 18:44 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: bummer on the resolution. Even the HP 14 has that res :/ | 18:46 |
| brousch | They are positioned as cheapo laptops, like netbooks | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 18:46 |
| brousch | I guess Grandville schools (near here) is giving them to all kids soon | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | I like them and keep track of dev. It'd make an interesting second machine for sure. | 18:47 |
| brousch | Great kid's laptop | 18:47 |
| rick_h_ | kids, guest, night time watching tv thing | 18:47 |
| rick_h_ | cool, long battery, etc | 18:47 |
| brousch | And my tech-impaired father loves his, and my tech-impaired brother loves his | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | I think JoDee is the only person in the UNited States that gives a fuck about Curling. | 19:17 |
| rick_h_ | they still do curling? | 19:17 |
| jrwren | I love curling | 19:17 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 19:17 |
| jrwren | its VERY fun to drink and watch. | 19:17 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I stand corrected | 19:17 |
| cmaloney | JoDee is the only sane person in the United States that gives a fuck about curling. | 19:18 |
| cmaloney | :-P | 19:18 |
| brousch | I like curling | 19:19 |
| rick_h_ | liking != caring | 19:19 |
| rick_h_ | for the record | 19:19 |
| brousch | I care more about it than any sportsball | 19:19 |
| brousch | It's like bowling on ice | 19:20 |
| rick_h_ | really? So you know of teams and players and standings? | 19:20 |
| rick_h_ | you track scores to see who won/lost? | 19:20 |
| brousch | No, but I don't know any standings of any sportsball either | 19:20 |
| rick_h_ | then it's not caring :) | 19:20 |
| brousch | If it's on TV, I am more likely to watch curling than sportsball | 19:20 |
| brousch | That's probably the best way to put it | 19:21 |
| jrwren | i know none of that. | 19:21 |
| jrwren | I don't care about it at all. | 19:21 |
| callmeDarwin | curling is great Sunday nap TV | 19:21 |
| jrwren | but I do enjoy drinking beer and watching it | 19:21 |
| jrwren | whoa, cloud-init docs looks good on the new RTD themem http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html | 19:22 |
| jrwren | smoser is my favorite person: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1244355 | 19:26 |
| smoser | jrwren, are you asking for that fixed in precise ? | 19:28 |
| jrwren | yes | 19:29 |
| jrwren | in next cut of cloud image :) | 19:29 |
| rick_h_ | curses, of course my pebble steel ships today and arrives while on a sprint. | 19:49 |
| jrwren | you've been waiting for that for a while | 19:53 |
| brousch | rick_h_: That always happens to you | 19:54 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I was hoping it'd come before the trip. They were supposed to start shipping the 28th | 19:54 |
| rick_h_ | but it's going to hit the weekend now and oh well | 19:54 |
| smoser | jrwren, shouldn't be too hard to do that. you could do the patch | 20:00 |
| smoser | and i'd get it sponsored for you | 20:00 |
| smoser | even mention your name in a changelog ! | 20:00 |
| jrwren | smoser: i don't even know where to begin. coach me? | 20:41 |
| jrwren | smoser: e.g. I don't even know what cloudinit version is in precise-updates would I be working off cloud-init trunk or some branched version for precise? | 20:42 |
| smoser | its fixd in trunk | 20:42 |
| smoser | (bzr branch lp:cloud-init) | 20:42 |
| smoser | its fixed in trusty: | 20:42 |
| smoser | (bzr branch lp:ubuntu/cloud-init/trusty) | 20:43 |
| smoser | its not fixed in precise-proposed | 20:43 |
| jrwren | so, all I have to do is cherrypick the patch? | 20:43 |
| smoser | (bzr branch lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init) | 20:43 |
| smoser | yeah, basically. | 20:43 |
| smoser | get lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init | 20:43 |
| jrwren | sounds easy | 20:43 |
| smoser | and then apply the fix from lp:cloud-init with quilt | 20:43 |
| smoser | QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches | 20:44 |
| smoser | you'll ned ^ to convince quilt where your patches are that are already applied. | 20:44 |
| jrwren | i've never quilted. | 20:45 |
| smoser | oh no?. its really a nice way of maintaining patches. | 20:45 |
| jrwren | can't I just git cherry-pick ? | 20:45 |
| smoser | well, no. :-( | 20:45 |
| jrwren | was j/k | 20:46 |
| brousch | rick_h_: How is your Nexus 10 holding up? | 20:49 |
| jrwren | smoser: should I be reving this in changelog? like 0.6.4 ? | 20:51 |
| smoser | 0.6.3-0ubuntu1.9 is what is current (just uploaded to precise-proposed yesterday) | 20:54 |
| smoser | so next is 0.6.3-0ubuntu1.10 | 20:54 |
| jrwren | i'm asking for the ChangeLog line. | 20:55 |
| jrwren | dch --increment it is. | 20:57 |
| smoser | right. dch -i. | 20:58 |
| smoser | the changelog line should just say something about the change. | 20:58 |
| jrwren | ChangeLog v. debian/changelog | 20:58 |
| smoser | ah. | 20:58 |
| smoser | dch -i | 20:58 |
| smoser | you're essentially looking to end up with a diff something like in | 20:58 |
| jrwren | i did a bzr log -r 890 -v | 20:59 |
| smoser | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6845949/ | 20:59 |
| jrwren | err, -v -p | 20:59 |
| jrwren | nah, that is SmartOS crap. I just want cloud-archive: | 21:00 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: well, loaded it up with movies for the flight. Got 6 downlaoded | 21:00 |
| jrwren | i was going for this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6845957/ | 21:01 |
| smoser | jrwren, right. i was just saying that is an example of the cnages you'd make | 21:01 |
| jrwren | but tree has been reorganzied making it not easy to follow | 21:01 |
| jrwren | smoser: cool | 21:02 |
| smoser | so what you have ther is reasonable. | 21:02 |
| smoser | you end up with a new patch in debian/patches | 21:02 |
| smoser | (and stupidly revision controlled .pc/* files) | 21:02 |
| jrwren | ugh. | 21:03 |
| jrwren | i don't do debian packages this way. | 21:04 |
| smoser | quilt 3.0 is the format that is the most popular now. | 21:04 |
| smoser | bzr revision controlls the .pc directories | 21:04 |
| smoser | (i think thats annoying, but fighting it means that you fight a robot that does automated imports, and when fighting robots, you lose because they do stuff when you're sleeping) | 21:05 |
| smoser | so i gave up. | 21:05 |
| jrwren | this single commit doesn't even manually port cleanly. | 21:06 |
| jrwren | add_sources in 0.6.3 takes a searchList instead of template_params | 21:07 |
| jrwren | or... maybe i can deal with it. | 21:07 |
| brousch | rick_h_: My wife has taken to the size of my TouchPad (10"), but the hackiness of Cyanogenmod on there bugs her. I'm thinking of a N10 for her | 21:08 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, I mean I gave away my N7 and just use the N10. I find that things break down into 10" tasks and phone tasks | 21:09 |
| rick_h_ | ssh to real computer, writing doc with BT keyboard, or watching movies | 21:09 |
| brousch | I'm getting too old to read PDFs on my N7 :( | 21:09 |
| rick_h_ | and tablet games for the boy once in a while | 21:09 |
| rick_h_ | heh, yea | 21:09 |
| rick_h_ | that too, I picked up a wine magazine subscription I use it for | 21:09 |
| rick_h_ | though I hate reading on lcv | 21:10 |
| rick_h_ | lcd | 21:10 |
| brousch | color! | 21:10 |
| rick_h_ | yea I know | 21:10 |
| rick_h_ | but still, it's text | 21:10 |
| jrwren | smoser: are there tests I can run? | 21:11 |
| smoser | make test | 21:12 |
| smoser | shoudl run | 21:12 |
| smoser | i'm not sure if i added a test for that or not. | 21:12 |
| brousch | I have a feeling I will love the N10 and will sell all of our old ones | 21:12 |
| smoser | jrwren, yeah, and i know it isn't theeasiest port. | 21:13 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, I was hoping they'd update it but honestly it doesn't have any issues | 21:13 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: and it sounds like they're not going to update it now :/ | 21:13 |
| smoser | porting the logic is fine. | 21:13 |
| smoser | and even porting a easy hack of "if input.startswith("cloud:")" | 21:13 |
| smoser | actually that might be the smartest / least invasive. | 21:13 |
| jrwren | smoser: no, I think I grokked it. | 21:13 |
| brousch | rick_h_: I've been waiting since Oct for new N10, but it is all just rumors | 21:13 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yep | 21:14 |
| jrwren | templater.render_string(source, template_params) was util.render_string(source, searchList) threw me a bit. | 21:14 |
| jrwren | smoser: so, I bzr committed, now what? :) | 21:16 |
| smoser | bzr push lp:~ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init/lp1244355 | 21:18 |
| smoser | err.. | 21:19 |
| smoser | sorry | 21:19 |
| smoser | bzr push lp:~jrwren/ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init/lp1244355 | 21:19 |
| smoser | i think. | 21:19 |
| smoser | then open https://code.launchpad.net/~jrwren/ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init/lp1244355 | 21:19 |
| smoser | (if jrwren is your lp id) | 21:19 |
| smoser | and hit "submit for review" | 21:19 |
| jrwren | evarlast, cuz I'm old school :) | 21:21 |
| jrwren | No such distribution series precise-proposed. | 21:22 |
| brousch | Ah, great. More snow is coming | 21:22 |
| jrwren | maybe im' not bzr logged in | 21:22 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yep, wife will get to use the snow blower for the first real time Sat | 21:22 |
| jrwren | hrm, no, same error | 21:23 |
| smoser | jrwren, i guess drop the -proposed | 21:25 |
| jrwren | i just did it to cloud-init/cloud-init, but that is my problem. | 21:26 |
| jrwren | you want a merge proposal for lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init ? | 21:26 |
| smoser | right. | 21:27 |
| jrwren | i added you as reviewer. I hope that is OK | 21:27 |
| cmaloney | Wow, didn't realize that Serge Hallyn was part of the LXC project | 22:09 |
| cmaloney | he was at Hope college when I was there. | 22:10 |
| cmaloney | I doubt he would remember me. | 22:10 |
| smoser | jrwren, hey. yeah, that sifne. i took a quick look. you need to add a patch in debian/patches/ | 22:10 |
| smoser | i knwo . its annoying. | 22:10 |
| smoser | but thats how it works | 22:10 |
| smoser | it probalb wont build like this. | 22:10 |
| jrwren | how to do that? | 22:10 |
| jrwren | diff > debian/patches/XXX ? | 22:11 |
| smoser | well, basically. yeah. | 22:11 |
| smoser | but using quilt. | 22:11 |
| smoser | you can do something like | 22:11 |
| smoser | diff > my.diff | 22:11 |
| smoser | quilt import my.diff | 22:11 |
| smoser | i have to run.s | 22:11 |
| smoser | sorry. | 22:11 |
| jrwren | this is one no one contributes to debuntu | 22:12 |
| jrwren | in bzr, how do I point my HEAd to -3 ? | 22:17 |
| jrwren | seriously, I've no idea how you'all still use bzr. | 22:27 |
| cmaloney | waf: ping | 22:31 |
| jrwren | LP: Timeout error, please try again in a few minutes. is also why no one contributes :p | 22:32 |
| cmaloney | waf: n/m. Taking my own advice and using email instead. | 22:33 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: bitch bitch bitch | 22:33 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: i know :) | 22:33 |
| jrwren | I am a whiney bitch. This is well established | 22:33 |
| cmaloney | heh | 22:33 |
| cmaloney | As long as you're OK with it. ;) | 22:34 |
| jrwren | i'm not really. I shoudl put up or STFU | 22:34 |
| cmaloney | I <3 that I can use the Squeezebox at the Barnes and Noble. | 22:35 |
| cmaloney | Didn't get a chance to sync my phone so instead I can listen to some jazz in the cafe. | 22:35 |
| jrwren | i use itunes at B&N :p | 22:43 |
| jrwren | VPN home and play all my media from home fileserver | 22:44 |
| jrwren | its comcastic | 22:44 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: http://yannesposito.com/Scratch/en/blog/2009-12-14-Git-vs--Bzr/ and from that looks like bzr revert -r -3 pipo | 22:48 |
| jrwren | didn't matter, just rebranched | 22:48 |
| rick_h_ | k | 22:48 |
| jrwren | its simple: I don't know bzr, and I have zero incentive to. | 22:48 |
| rick_h_ | no argument here | 22:49 |
| jrwren | TY though | 22:49 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/juju/juju-gui | 22:49 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 22:49 |
| jrwren | yup. | 22:49 |
| jrwren | very cool | 22:49 |
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