[00:19] waf: www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/1060x596/lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-x1-carbon-2-keyboard-3.jpg [01:14] https://wiki.mozilla.org/CordovaFirefoxOS [01:15] fuck that keyboard [01:16] greg-g: heh, I was showing waf why I don't have faith in lenovo any more [01:16] the fact that the keyboard went through to production, and for sale, on a Thinkpad...is a fireable offense at the min [01:22] Guarantee someoneover at ZDnet is heralding this as the killer feature [01:35] http://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpadcirclejerk [01:35] this is for you rick_h_ [01:39] i know I should prefer to type easy_install, but pip is so much shorter and easier :) [01:41] nope, pip won [01:41] uninstall is a darn useful feature [01:44] oh yeah. [01:44] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/timelib/ [01:44] nice module there. [01:58] howdy.:) [02:15] howdy :) [12:15] Good morning [12:15] I'm going to start the day by thinking positive thoughts [12:15] like say for instance this email: http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/albinomoose.asp [12:15] Received from a family member [12:16] that wasn't about Obama. [12:16] Ah [12:16] ahhhhhh [14:03] happy happy [14:07] party party [14:09] pop quiz. [14:10] sudo apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl mysql-client-5.5 mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 python-mysqldb [14:10] why didn't I just apt-get remove libmysqlclient18 [14:10] ? [14:10] because you weren't sure? [14:11] nope. [14:12] snmpd depends on it :( [14:13] for some reason /usr/sbin/snmptrapd links against it. I can't imagine wh [14:13] why [14:13] scale! [14:14] oh [14:14] The ability to log received traps to a MySQL database was added in Release 5.5 [14:14] oh net-snmp. [14:14] you so silly [14:24] heh, flaky as can be but the google now notifications are working [14:28] rick_h_: yeah, the overall UI changes in the recent update are wonky [14:29] also not a fan of extra icons all up in my status bar [14:30] rick_h_, in the browser? [14:30] they finally got the app menu to be able to be docked too iirc? [14:31] jcastro: yea [14:31] jcastro: latest canary build [14:31] widox: yea, it'll settle. This has happened before [14:31] the extra chrome in the space above the tabs [14:33] rick_h_: yep, it doesn't "fit" well into my tiling anymore [14:33] I already run a chrome extension to block that crack [14:33] (Google Plus notifications) [14:33] that's all I need is for it to show up in my tray [14:34] cmaloney: this is more then just G+ stuff, its also the Now cards [14:34] right, but it'll likely be all or nothing [14:34] if you use it on your phone for example [14:34] right, the cool bit is the reminders I create on my phone are syncd [14:34] but it's the now weather, sportsball team updates, etc [14:34] yeah that would be handy [14:35] but something telling me someone acknowledged my witticism on G+ is not [14:35] because I am a delicate flower that must be acknowledged [14:35] lest I wilt. [14:35] How much snow it takes to cancel school http://i.imgur.com/CiuVwRq.png [14:35] yeah, you can turn that off but not Now notifications [14:35] so they are independant [14:36] yeah, but for how long. :) [14:36] seems plus is pervasive. [18:15] Wow. That's some bait and switch. https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebooks.html#pixel $279 [18:15] Click Buy: $1299 [18:16] how many movies can I get into the tablet...go go go [18:16] wow, wtf brousch [18:16] I was surpised the price had dropped so much [18:17] no kidding [18:18] I was ready to pick up 2 of them [18:20] Heh, went to reddit to report it and someone already had https://plus.google.com/+RonnieJonesII/posts/Adde5Auns4H [18:36] bah [18:40] The Cr-48 is starting to show its age. Having trouble playing YouTube [18:40] yea, some people have gotten some of the newer haswell based ones and liking them [18:41] just make sure to get the ones with a little more GB of ram since multi-tasking is available now [18:42] All of the new ones are a pathetic 1366x768 [18:42] I guess that's similar to the Cr-48, but I was hoping for better now [18:43] i have to lookup how to PPA, everytime :) [18:43] jrwren: makefiles ftw [18:43] rick_h_: how does that help? [18:43] sudo add-apt-repository ppa [18:43] brousch: no, submitting [18:43] jrwren: don't have to look it up, just make sysdeps [18:43] ah [18:43] oh, submitting for a ppa, nvm [18:44] 2leet4me [18:46] brousch: bummer on the resolution. Even the HP 14 has that res :/ [18:46] They are positioned as cheapo laptops, like netbooks [18:46] yea [18:46] I guess Grandville schools (near here) is giving them to all kids soon [18:47] I like them and keep track of dev. It'd make an interesting second machine for sure. [18:47] Great kid's laptop [18:47] kids, guest, night time watching tv thing [18:47] cool, long battery, etc [18:47] And my tech-impaired father loves his, and my tech-impaired brother loves his [19:17] I think JoDee is the only person in the UNited States that gives a fuck about Curling. [19:17] they still do curling? [19:17] I love curling [19:17] :P [19:17] its VERY fun to drink and watch. [19:17] jrwren: I stand corrected [19:18] JoDee is the only sane person in the United States that gives a fuck about curling. [19:18] :-P [19:19] I like curling [19:19] liking != caring [19:19] for the record [19:19] I care more about it than any sportsball [19:20] It's like bowling on ice [19:20] really? So you know of teams and players and standings? [19:20] you track scores to see who won/lost? [19:20] No, but I don't know any standings of any sportsball either [19:20] then it's not caring :) [19:20] If it's on TV, I am more likely to watch curling than sportsball [19:21] That's probably the best way to put it [19:21] i know none of that. [19:21] I don't care about it at all. [19:21] curling is great Sunday nap TV [19:21] but I do enjoy drinking beer and watching it [19:22] whoa, cloud-init docs looks good on the new RTD themem http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html [19:26] smoser is my favorite person: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1244355 [19:28] jrwren, are you asking for that fixed in precise ? [19:29] yes [19:29] in next cut of cloud image :) [19:49] curses, of course my pebble steel ships today and arrives while on a sprint. [19:53] you've been waiting for that for a while [19:54] rick_h_: That always happens to you [19:54] yea, I was hoping it'd come before the trip. They were supposed to start shipping the 28th [19:54] but it's going to hit the weekend now and oh well [20:00] jrwren, shouldn't be too hard to do that. you could do the patch [20:00] and i'd get it sponsored for you [20:00] even mention your name in a changelog ! [20:41] smoser: i don't even know where to begin. coach me? [20:42] smoser: e.g. I don't even know what cloudinit version is in precise-updates would I be working off cloud-init trunk or some branched version for precise? [20:42] its fixd in trunk [20:42] (bzr branch lp:cloud-init) [20:42] its fixed in trusty: [20:43] (bzr branch lp:ubuntu/cloud-init/trusty) [20:43] its not fixed in precise-proposed [20:43] so, all I have to do is cherrypick the patch? [20:43] (bzr branch lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init) [20:43] yeah, basically. [20:43] get lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init [20:43] sounds easy [20:43] and then apply the fix from lp:cloud-init with quilt [20:44] QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches [20:44] you'll ned ^ to convince quilt where your patches are that are already applied. [20:45] i've never quilted. [20:45] oh no?. its really a nice way of maintaining patches. [20:45] can't I just git cherry-pick ? [20:45] well, no. :-( [20:46] was j/k [20:49] rick_h_: How is your Nexus 10 holding up? [20:51] smoser: should I be reving this in changelog? like 0.6.4 ? [20:54] 0.6.3-0ubuntu1.9 is what is current (just uploaded to precise-proposed yesterday) [20:54] so next is 0.6.3-0ubuntu1.10 [20:55] i'm asking for the ChangeLog line. [20:57] dch --increment it is. [20:58] right. dch -i. [20:58] the changelog line should just say something about the change. [20:58] ChangeLog v. debian/changelog [20:58] ah. [20:58] dch -i [20:58] you're essentially looking to end up with a diff something like in [20:59] i did a bzr log -r 890 -v [20:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6845949/ [20:59] err, -v -p [21:00] nah, that is SmartOS crap. I just want cloud-archive: [21:00] brousch: well, loaded it up with movies for the flight. Got 6 downlaoded [21:01] i was going for this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6845957/ [21:01] jrwren, right. i was just saying that is an example of the cnages you'd make [21:01] but tree has been reorganzied making it not easy to follow [21:02] smoser: cool [21:02] so what you have ther is reasonable. [21:02] you end up with a new patch in debian/patches [21:02] (and stupidly revision controlled .pc/* files) [21:03] ugh. [21:04] i don't do debian packages this way. [21:04] quilt 3.0 is the format that is the most popular now. [21:04] bzr revision controlls the .pc directories [21:05] (i think thats annoying, but fighting it means that you fight a robot that does automated imports, and when fighting robots, you lose because they do stuff when you're sleeping) [21:05] so i gave up. [21:06] this single commit doesn't even manually port cleanly. [21:07] add_sources in 0.6.3 takes a searchList instead of template_params [21:07] or... maybe i can deal with it. [21:08] rick_h_: My wife has taken to the size of my TouchPad (10"), but the hackiness of Cyanogenmod on there bugs her. I'm thinking of a N10 for her [21:09] brousch: yea, I mean I gave away my N7 and just use the N10. I find that things break down into 10" tasks and phone tasks [21:09] ssh to real computer, writing doc with BT keyboard, or watching movies [21:09] I'm getting too old to read PDFs on my N7 :( [21:09] and tablet games for the boy once in a while [21:09] heh, yea [21:09] that too, I picked up a wine magazine subscription I use it for [21:10] though I hate reading on lcv [21:10] lcd [21:10] color! [21:10] yea I know [21:10] but still, it's text [21:11] smoser: are there tests I can run? [21:12] make test [21:12] shoudl run [21:12] i'm not sure if i added a test for that or not. [21:12] I have a feeling I will love the N10 and will sell all of our old ones [21:13] jrwren, yeah, and i know it isn't theeasiest port. [21:13] brousch: yea, I was hoping they'd update it but honestly it doesn't have any issues [21:13] brousch: and it sounds like they're not going to update it now :/ [21:13] porting the logic is fine. [21:13] and even porting a easy hack of "if input.startswith("cloud:")" [21:13] actually that might be the smartest / least invasive. [21:13] smoser: no, I think I grokked it. [21:13] rick_h_: I've been waiting since Oct for new N10, but it is all just rumors [21:14] brousch: yep [21:14] templater.render_string(source, template_params) was util.render_string(source, searchList) threw me a bit. [21:16] smoser: so, I bzr committed, now what? :) [21:18] bzr push lp:~ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init/lp1244355 [21:19] err.. [21:19] sorry [21:19] bzr push lp:~jrwren/ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init/lp1244355 [21:19] i think. [21:19] then open https://code.launchpad.net/~jrwren/ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init/lp1244355 [21:19] (if jrwren is your lp id) [21:19] and hit "submit for review" [21:21] evarlast, cuz I'm old school :) [21:22] No such distribution series precise-proposed. [21:22] Ah, great. More snow is coming [21:22] maybe im' not bzr logged in [21:22] brousch: yep, wife will get to use the snow blower for the first real time Sat [21:23] hrm, no, same error [21:25] jrwren, i guess drop the -proposed [21:26] i just did it to cloud-init/cloud-init, but that is my problem. [21:26] you want a merge proposal for lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/cloud-init ? [21:27] right. [21:27] i added you as reviewer. I hope that is OK [22:09] Wow, didn't realize that Serge Hallyn was part of the LXC project [22:10] he was at Hope college when I was there. [22:10] I doubt he would remember me. [22:10] jrwren, hey. yeah, that sifne. i took a quick look. you need to add a patch in debian/patches/ [22:10] i knwo . its annoying. [22:10] but thats how it works [22:10] it probalb wont build like this. [22:10] how to do that? [22:11] diff > debian/patches/XXX ? [22:11] well, basically. yeah. [22:11] but using quilt. [22:11] you can do something like [22:11] diff > my.diff [22:11] quilt import my.diff [22:11] i have to run.s [22:11] sorry. [22:12] this is one no one contributes to debuntu [22:17] in bzr, how do I point my HEAd to -3 ? [22:27] seriously, I've no idea how you'all still use bzr. [22:31] waf: ping [22:32] LP: Timeout error, please try again in a few minutes. is also why no one contributes :p [22:33] waf: n/m. Taking my own advice and using email instead. [22:33] jrwren: bitch bitch bitch [22:33] cmaloney: i know :) [22:33] I am a whiney bitch. This is well established [22:33] heh [22:34] As long as you're OK with it. ;) [22:34] i'm not really. I shoudl put up or STFU [22:35] I <3 that I can use the Squeezebox at the Barnes and Noble. [22:35] Didn't get a chance to sync my phone so instead I can listen to some jazz in the cafe. [22:43] i use itunes at B&N :p [22:44] VPN home and play all my media from home fileserver [22:44] its comcastic [22:48] jrwren: http://yannesposito.com/Scratch/en/blog/2009-12-14-Git-vs--Bzr/ and from that looks like bzr revert -r -3 pipo [22:48] didn't matter, just rebranched [22:48] k [22:48] its simple: I don't know bzr, and I have zero incentive to. [22:49] no argument here [22:49] TY though [22:49] https://github.com/juju/juju-gui [22:49] :) [22:49] yup. [22:49] very cool