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Kiloshi superfly and others04:58
mazalMore oom05:06
Kiloshi mazal 05:07
nuvolario/ more oom Kilos 05:19
nuvolarihallo mazal 05:19
Kilosmore nuvolari 05:19
inetprogood morning05:22
Kilosmorning inetpro 05:22
bduk1Morning everybody05:26
Kiloshi bduk1 05:31
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:17
superflyhi Kilos06:45
Vince-0!07:50
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:55
Kiloshi Xethron 07:55
Vince-0its Turdsday07:55
Kilosyeah07:56
Kiloshi nlsthzn 08:14
nlsthznGood morning uncle Kilos 08:14
nlsthznall well?08:14
Kiloskinda but funny on off stuffs08:15
nlsthzn?08:15
Kilosi find when i shutdown the os the pc keeps running then no buttons work but if i tip pc on its side it switches off08:15
Kiloshehe08:15
nlsthzn?08:16
nlsthznthat is very weird08:16
Kilosso somewhere there is some connection not good08:16
Kilosyeah but im mastering it08:16
nlsthznI would recommend re-checking all the connections08:16
Kilosi have a coupla times08:16
Kilosexciting08:16
Kilosi love troubleshooting08:16
Kilosmore fun than when everything just works08:17
nlsthznsure if you don't have anything else of importance to do08:18
Kilosyeah08:18
Kilosi found the prob with the power on button08:18
Kilosthey have the connectors shown wrong according to other gigabyte boards08:19
Kilospower and reset swopped around08:19
Kilosi agree, if you have work to do as well then its too much to go the troubleshooting route as well08:20
nlsthznwell that isn't a gigbyte board... the schematics for it is available online if I recall08:20
Kilosag man ecs08:20
Kilossorry08:20
nlsthzn:)08:20
Kilosi have 2 scrap ones here08:20
Kilosone ian bought as new in the box with books and all but cpu mounting points were scratched broken with a screwdriver08:21
Kilospeeps are evil08:22
Kiloshows things buy you nlsthzn ?08:22
Kilosby08:22
nlsthznok thanks uncle Kilos ... went to the first mall built here a few hours ago... it is ok, not many things open yet08:22
Kilosaha08:23
Kilosza full of malls08:23
nlsthzneven a new one in Secunda...08:25
nlsthznlots of malls here in the big cities too... worlds biggest in Dubai08:25
Kilossjoe08:25
nlsthznand the mall with a built in ice ski08:25
nlsthzngo and play in the snow in the deser 08:25
nlsthzn*desert08:25
Kiloshahaha08:25
Kilosi just gonna reboot to set the bios clock08:32
Kilosinetpro, ek dink die weer sukkel. eks seker dit is op soek na elders. hulle se mos altyd dit reen elders09:14
inetproai!09:16
Kiloshi psyatw 09:22
psyatwhi Kilos09:23
magespawnhowdy all09:23
Kiloshi magespawn 09:24
magespawnbusy in training today09:27
Kilosnice09:27
magespawnlearning new systems09:27
Kilosgood09:27
psyatwhello magespawn09:33
psyatwwhat kind of systems?09:33
magespawnsemper09:34
magespawnhotel management software09:34
psyatwI´ve never heard of that, but I hope it´s an interesting training09:36
magespawnbit boring, i just have to learn it so that when the users need supppoert09:38
magespawnstruggling a bit here, i need sleep09:41
Kilosai!09:41
Kiloshi smile 09:41
smilehi Kilos :D09:41
Golynxai! system failure :(10:02
Kilosouch10:02
Kiloswhat did you break10:02
GolynxHi Kilos10:02
Kiloshi Golynx 10:02
Golynxroot filesystem ownerships10:02
Kiloswhat are you doing in there?10:03
smile?yhw ,tuptuo eht gnisreveR10:04
smile:p10:04
Kilosis that japanese?10:04
smileNo, it's reversed output :p10:04
Kiloshaha10:04
Kilosyou messing my brain man10:05
smile:D10:05
* smile hugs Kilos :)10:05
Kilosty10:05
Kiloshelp Golynx rather and remember he is a noob10:05
GolynxI just wanted to change the permission on an apache php folder.  I went to that folder with cd /var/www/folder , then did sudo chown www-data /var/www/folder . Next thing i saw when i pressed enter was it was changing / directory to www-data user :(10:05
Golynxhi smile10:05
Kilosso no heavy stuff10:05
smilehi Golynx :)10:05
Kilosoh my goodness10:06
smileGolynx: yes, because you said the new owner must be www-data user? :D10:06
GolynxNow i got no root access because root user is not allowed to read/write anymore10:06
Kilosyou gotta be careful of chown10:06
GolynxI never told it to chown the root directory :/10:07
smileOh :(10:07
smilerecovery mode? :)10:07
Kilosbut why go to that folder and chown from there10:08
Kilosyou want root to chown the folder10:08
GolynxI rebooted in recovery mode , then did mount -rw -o remount /  .It changed the root directories owners to root again, but other users where root never was is allowed in certain files ,like bluetooth dont use root it use another user , now network dont work 10:09
smile:(10:10
GolynxI'm i live cd now 10:10
GolynxI'm used to setting permissions like that Kilos10:11
Kilossave everything to somewhere10:11
Golynxvi chmod10:11
Kilosthose things are dangerous to play with if you arent 100% sure what you are doing10:12
GolynxI'm waiting for  dvd from town, my sister wont let me use her phone to transfer to card again10:12
charl_good morning10:12
charl_Maaz: coffee on10:12
* Maaz starts grinding coffee10:12
Kiloshi charl_ 10:12
charl_hi Kilos 10:12
Golynxhi charl_10:12
Kiloshelp Golynx get root permissions back to root again10:13
GolynxI will reinstall ubuntu again tonight10:13
charl_hi Golynx 10:13
charl_what? root permissions back to root?10:13
KilosI just wanted to change the permission on an apache php folder.  I went to that folder with cd /var/www/folder , then did sudo chown www-data /var/www/folder . Next thing i saw when i pressed enter was it was changing / directory to www-data user :(10:14
GolynxThey are back to root Kilos, just root has overridden some other users like network use different users to access the network and bluetooth10:14
Kilosthere is some way of sorting that10:14
Kilosall above me though10:15
charl_weird10:15
charl_you people are just skrewing around here now10:16
GolynxWas it a bug in the dvd ?10:16
Kilosall i chown now are externals and maybe /home/and the file that needs it10:16
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!10:16
charl_Maaz: thanks10:16
Maazcharl_: No problem10:16
Kilosonly the file on its own10:16
charl_Maaz is best maid10:16
GolynxI never mess with / though10:16
Kilosbug in what dvd?10:17
Golynxremastersys10:17
Kilosthe bug is in your hands10:17
Kilosnot the dvd10:17
Kilosdvd dont chown stuff10:17
GolynxI mean errors it can cause in the os10:18
Kilosno dvd fine10:18
Kilosnever had a faulty remastersys dvd yet10:18
Golynxok fine10:18
smilebrb :)10:19
Kilosso what is needed to be controlled from user that root controls now10:19
Kilosnetwork10:20
charl_in dutch what you people are doing is called an "epische kloterij"10:20
charl_i will rather not translate it10:20
GolynxI've put 334MB of Archive stuff in a backups folder. Can i install the drivers from there and all other programs i downloaded before including Xfce ?10:20
charl_hi smile 110:20
charl_how's it going10:20
Kilosya but with gdebi10:20
Kilostry reinstalling them from synaptic10:21
Kilosthe things that root has stolen control of now10:21
GolynxThat will wana download it again10:21
smilehi charl_ :)10:21
smilefine! :D10:21
charl_long time no speak to, how's life10:21
smilecharl_: I just managed to get my tabs vertical in ChatZilla :)10:21
charl_you going to fosdem?10:21
smilethat allows many more tabs to be open at the same time = channels / users :)10:22
Kilosdid you empty your archives?10:22
smileNo :) I'm not going, are you?10:22
charl_ah, i don't really know chatzilla, i use irssi10:22
charl_i'm not sure, i would like to go but i just don't feel like sitting on the train10:22
charl_for me coming from the east it's hours and hours before i end up in brussel10:22
GolynxNope just copied from terminal10:23
charl_and there also seems to be a lot of people going, they say 5K+10:23
Kilosthen they must still be there so you can reinstall from synaptic without it downloading10:24
charl_wb smile 10:25
smilethank you :)10:25
smilecharl_: I was installing https://github.com/hagabaka/chatzilla-plugins/tree/master/channel-tree10:25
smileAnd I just found the way to option to set it on the right :)10:25
GolynxI dont understand Kilos, i was planning to Erase the disk from live cd and reinstall ubuntu, so i can get back the correct ownerships for directories and files10:26
charl_smile: nice :)10:26
charl_can you alt+1,2,3 etc to change between tabs?10:26
charl_that's the one feature i love about irssi, i prefer keyboard navigation10:27
smileGolynx: good plan ;)10:27
smilecharl_: yes, but it works strangely :p10:28
GolynxHow will that bring back the correct ownerships Kilos , if i reinstalled the programs?10:28
Kilosim hoping synaptic will sort it10:28
smilesince it uses the order of auto-joined channels, instead of A-Z10:28
smileI will now sort my auto-join channels A-Z10:28
charl_smile: ooh no that's not so handy10:28
charl_yeah good idea10:28
smilecharl_: then it'll work ;)10:28
Golynx:/ i dunno about that 10:29
charl_i am busy playing with semplice now10:29
charl_a very nice openbox-based debian derivative10:29
GolynxThere is no programs downloaded in Archives that controls the bluetooth and network for example, they are already default in ubuntu10:30
GolynxAnd their permissions are already compromized, no way to reinstall them without reinstalling the entire os10:31
smilebrb, again :D10:31
Kiloscharl_, smile help Golynx please10:31
smileit won't bring back the correct ownerships :) just reinstall, will save you a lot of headaches10:32
smile;)10:32
smileback :)10:33
GolynxSo thats my only option now. Reinstall ubuntu and then install the drivers and other software from the backup i made of the Archives10:34
smilecharl_: it now works10:34
smileIt's not your only, but it's probably your best :)10:35
KilosGolynx, 10:35
Kilosdo you have a dvd there10:35
Kilosremastersys it10:35
smileKilos: won't that take the bad ownerships with it? :p10:36
GolynxI will tonight Kilos10:36
Kilosor just make sure you have the whole archives saved10:36
Golynxai, i used to just restore win7 to a previous date , funny ubuntu dont have that10:37
Kilosif you use the backup option it might i dunno but there is an iso option that doesnt do a full backup of what you have working like settings10:37
GolynxYes i have about 330MB of programs in the Archives i put that with my other backedup data10:38
Kilosso min10:38
Kilosi have 9.5g10:39
Kilosdo you know that path to the backup?10:39
Kilosif so do sudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /path to backup/10:40
GolynxWill have to do the remastersys thing when the system is healthy again10:40
Kilosthat will sort whats not already in the saved archives10:40
Kilosmainly you need all the xubuntu-desktop and its dependancies saved for sure10:42
Kilosand all the updated packages10:43
Kiloswb psy10:43
charl_hi sorry, was busy organising a new office10:45
charl_smile: ah great10:45
psyatwhi charl_10:45
psyatwhi smile10:45
psyatwty Kilos10:45
charl_Kilos: you people are making an epic mess with that remastersys10:45
charl_psyatw: hi there!10:45
Kiloswhy charl_ 10:45
Kiloshave you used it10:46
charl_Kilos: remastersys is a tool for people who want to do mass-rollouts on corporate desktops or people who want to create specialist derivatives like security, privacy, etc10:46
Kilosi can do a clean install and only need 40m to get fully updated/upgraded10:46
Golynxhmm10:46
ThatGraemeGuyum10:47
ThatGraemeGuyits hardly a clean install, just a backup of your existing setup10:47
charl_yeah exactly10:47
charl_not that there is anything wrong with it, the tools are provided and you use them as you see fit10:48
Kilosya that ThatGraemeGuy i mean wipe the drive and install from scratch10:48
charl_but i still can't help but think you are making an epic "kloterij" out of this10:48
GolynxI will like a backup of my system though. If it breaks i can just reload everything specific to the pc hardware from remastersys10:49
Kiloswhen you can help then make comments10:49
ThatGraemeGuyyeah guess i'll just stfu then10:50
charl_yes me too, i stay far out of this :P10:50
Golynxai10:51
KilosGolynx, when you have everything installed and working properly look at redobackup10:51
Kilosill try fing the link10:51
Kilosfind10:51
Golynxwill do Kilos 10:52
Kiloshttp://redobackup.org/features.php10:52
Kilossorry ThatGraemeGuy charl_ 10:53
Kilosi use remastersys all the time to install to three pcs and had no probs10:53
Kilosdidnt wanna be nasty10:53
ThatGraemeGuyI don't think its good to keep pushing a third-party app on people as a solution, especially when the app isn't even maintained anymore10:54
ThatGraemeGuyand that's the last i'll be saying10:55
Golynxbbl ty Kilos11:01
Kilosgood luck gol11:01
smilehi psyatw 11:05
smile:)11:05
magespawnbig storm here11:35
magespawnhi smile11:35
charl_hi magespawn 11:35
magespawnhi there charl_ 11:36
smilehi magespawn :)11:36
charl_you installing cool wireless setups?11:36
charl_you must make fotos :)11:36
charl_*photos11:36
magespawnnot at the moment, busy getting training on Semper11:36
magespawngood idea charl_ 11:36
charl_semper? what is that?11:36
Xethronhi Kilos11:37
charl_hi Xethron 11:37
magespawncharl_, hotel management software11:52
charl_oh yes, hold on a second11:58
charl_i used to know a guy that used to work at semper11:58
charl_i forgot his name though11:58
charl_hi tinuva 12:00
charl_magespawn: afaik they have a development office in george12:00
magespawnNoel?12:02
magespawncharl_, they guy we are getting trained by Noel?12:05
charl_doesn't sound familiar, it was from too long ago12:05
magespawnah well one of those things.12:05
charl_oh wait now i remember12:05
charl_the guy was called stiaan pretorius12:05
charl_but he used to work there a long time ago12:06
magespawnjust need to scratch the brain a bit12:06
charl_work, bbl12:16
Kiloshmm...14:12
theblazehenhi14:34
Kiloshi theblazehen 14:35
KilosMaaz, wb14:35
MaazThank you so much Kilos my good good friend14:35
theblazehen?14:35
KilosMaaz has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)14:35
theblazehenah14:36
magespawnevening all16:07
theblazehenhey magespawn 16:14
Kiloshi magespawn 16:14
magespawnwhats up?16:22
Kilosdunno been asleep16:22
magespawnhad a heavy but short rain storm here16:25
Kiloswe still hoping16:25
Kiloshmm...16:40
magespawnback again17:11
Kiloshi magespawn 17:20
Kiloswhat happened17:20
Kilosthey lowering schumis meds so he can wake up17:22
Kilosmonth in a forced coma17:22
magespawn3g dropped me for awhile there17:29
magespawnsounds like a good thing, but i suppose they will only know if everything is okay after he wakes up17:30
Kilosyeah they kept him under so the swelling could go down and also do 2 ops17:31
magespawnpretty amazing what they can do17:33
Kilosyeah17:33
Kiloswb Golynx 18:01
inetprogood evening18:02
GolynxKilos i burned my data to a dvd with Xfburn. It said completed. but when i check if there is data on i cant find a way to do that18:02
Golynxty18:02
GolynxI mean their is no dvd-rom drive icon anywhere18:03
Golynxhi inetpro18:03
Kiloscan you open it?18:03
Kiloshi inetpro 18:03
Kilosoh18:04
GolynxI insert the dvd and i cant find a way to check it18:04
GolynxHow does linux do that18:04
Kilosmust be there somewhere in one of them things in the top panel on the left18:04
Kiloslike computer ans cdrom etc18:05
GolynxNope no drives mentioned there , not even the HHD18:05
Kilosi cant picture what the stuff is in xfce18:05
* inetpro played with CentOS a bit in the last two days18:05
inetpromust say yum is quite nice these days18:05
GolynxIn unity too i dont see that18:06
Kilosthats nice inetpro 18:06
inetprobut it's quite clear that Ubuntu server is ahead in the race18:06
Kilosin unity a cdrom shows on the launcher panel18:06
Kilosthats nice to know18:06
Kilosi didnt enjoy centos at all. but mine is old18:07
GolynxI didnt see a cdrom on the launcher panel18:07
Kilosat the bottom18:08
Kilosdrag mouse down18:08
inetprofor instance it looks like they only started now to use the service command with upstart18:08
Kilosremove the office stuff18:08
Kiloswhy do all the server peeps say centos is better18:08
magespawnhi inetpro  Golynx 18:08
Kilosor redhat anyway18:09
inetproI also don't like how they drop you into root by default18:09
GolynxNo cdrom icon Kilos18:09
inetprodangerous18:09
Golynxhi magespawn18:09
KilosGolynx, can you see if it was burned18:09
magespawninetpro, i thought was their default way, nothing done by the system for you18:09
Kiloslike differnt colour on the read surface18:09
GolynxThats what i wana see Kilos, but i cant find the cdrom drive anywhere18:10
Kiloslook on the dvd itself18:10
Golynxhuh? dvd itself ?18:10
Kilosif you put the remaster dvd in does that show up18:11
Kilosya you can normally see when data is burned onto dvds18:11
inetprofirst thing I missed was byobu, fortunately it's available in the Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (EPEL)18:11
GolynxDo you mean the "Install Custom 12.04" icon on the desktop ?18:11
Kilosya 18:12
Kilossee  if that shows18:12
Kilosno man18:12
Golynxok lemme check that18:12
Kilosif you put that dvd in dont you see it anywhere18:12
magespawnKilos, looks like not18:13
Kilosexcuse me magespawn im lost18:14
magespawni also thought centos/red hat was for the professional who would know how to do all they needed18:14
Kiloslol18:14
magespawnyour last statement was a sort of question, i took his leaving as the answer18:15
Kilosoh18:15
Kilosi think he was on the live dvd18:15
inetpromagespawn: it (centos) clearly is very popular18:17
inetpromore than 450 nicks in #centos18:17
Kiloswhew18:18
magespawni liked using, if only for the learning curve on how the things are different18:18
inetprobut they down't beat #ubuntu with more than 1800 nicks18:18
inetproimpossible to follow conversations in busy channels like that18:20
Kiloslol18:20
KilosGolynx, ?18:27
GolynxKilos no cd or dvd is picked up by the installed ubuntu. So i guess its the mixed up permissions. The reboot, shutdown and sound dont work aswell18:28
Kilosouch18:28
Golynxand network and bluetooth dont work too18:28
GolynxSo now i'm gona erase the old ubuntu and install the new one18:29
Kilosso how did you write the packages to dvd then?18:29
GolynxThat should fix everything18:29
Kilosare you sure that worked?18:29
GolynxI chose a data disc on dvd+r18:30
GolynxIt said completed and dvd was hot when it ejected, so i guess it got put on18:30
Kilosok18:31
Kilosare you gonna wipe the whole drive18:31
GolynxYes , just like last time18:31
Kilosthink about making seperate partitions18:31
Kilosthen you can save you /home in case you need to install again18:32
GolynxIt will freeze again, but i got a trick . I put the mouse pointer in the window so it stays active that way and keyboard works18:32
Kilosyou play with dangerous commands18:32
Golynxhmm never did that18:33
Kiloswhat will freeze?18:33
Kilosand why?18:33
GolynxWhen i install from live cd it usually freeze 18:34
Golynxthe screen i mean18:34
Kiloswow18:34
Kilosok good luck then18:34
GolynxDunno about the partition thing though, /home got mixed up ownerships too18:35
Golynxty18:35
Kiloshi psydroid 18:35
psydroidhi Golynx 18:35
Kiloswait Golynx 18:35
psydroidhi Kilos 18:35
Golynxhi psydroid18:35
Golynxyes18:35
Kilosboot from the dvd then go install then choose other options18:36
Kilosthen make 30g / partition18:36
Kilos2g swap18:36
Kilos80g /home18:37
Golynxlol i wont even wana try that. I'm sure i will mess things up18:37
Kilosand the rest you type it by moint point /storage18:37
Kilosok let it do its thing then18:37
Kilosgood luck18:37
GolynxI wana clear the bad filesystems and fix them18:38
Kilosok18:38
Golynxok i will let ubuntu do everything , hope things works 18:39
Golynxtake care18:39
Kilosshame poor kid18:40
Kilosi lead him astray18:41
Kiloshe gonna be like me learn by reinstalling many times18:46
magespawnone of the best ways to learn, you have to take the training wheels off some time18:48
Kiloslol18:49
Kilosshame he killed all his permissions with a chown command18:49
Kilosroot took everything18:50
magespawnwow18:50
magespawnthat was pretty drastic chown then18:50
Kilosyeah he did it from the www.something folder18:52
KilosI just wanted to change the permission on an apache php folder.  I went to that folder with cd /var/www/folder , then did sudo chown www-data /var/www/folder . Next thing i saw when i pressed enter was it was changing / directory to www-data user :(18:53
Kilosthats what he did18:53
magespawnokay then18:55
magespawni am off to bed, good night all18:55
Kilosnight magespawn 18:56
Kilossleep tight18:57
Kilosjy ook inetpro 18:57
* inetpro likes the #centos irc web page http://wiki.centos.org/irc18:57
Kiloslekker slaap18:57
inetproKilos: lekker slaap, maar gaan lees daai bladsy as jy tyd het18:57
Kilosek sal nou gaan kyk, jy moet gaan slaap18:57
inetpronog so 'n rukkie aanlyn18:58
Kiloslol18:58
Kiloswhat bot are they using inetpro ?19:01
Kilosclever one19:01
inetpronot sure, but there are plenty of bots out there man19:01
Kilostl;dr19:02
Kiloshaha19:02
Kilosive done badblocks and fsck -f on the 2TB drive, all shows clear but can only install xp on it19:04
Kilosgrrr19:04
Kilosive even learned how to install xp on 2 different partitions19:05
Kilosinetpro, 19:08
inetpro?19:08
Kilosyou clever, make us a ubuntu-za-social channel for off topics19:09
inetprowhy?19:09
Kilosi think thats what you like about them centos peeps19:09
inetprono19:09
Kilosno off topic stuff in main channel19:09
Kilosok19:10
inetproit's a different ball game19:10
inetprowith so many users you can't afford to waste peoples time19:10
inetprowould be chaos19:10
inetproin fact I even opened #centos-za so long, in case I decide to use it for the long run19:11
Kiloslol19:11
Kilosi cant remember how i made my channel even. member you helped though19:12
inetproyou just join a new channel19:13
inetproand then go register it19:13
Kilosno man19:13
Kilosoh19:13
Kiloswhew 19:14
inetproeasier than falling off a tree19:14
inetprobefore falling off a tree you must first climb up19:14
Kiloshaha ive jhoined #ubuntu-za-social19:15
Kilosjoined as well19:15
* inetpro joined too many channels already, busy closing some 19:16
Kilos-modem disconnected19:20
inetproKilos-: gaan slaap nou oom :-)19:33
Kilos-ek of jy? inetpro 19:34
inetproaltwee19:34
Kilos-mense kwaad my hier19:34
inetprohoekom?19:34
Kilos-ek het iets dom gese19:35
Kilos-i said if you cant help dont comment19:35
inetprohaha19:35
inetprowhen?19:35
Kilos-twee mense kwaad gemaak vir my19:35
Kilos-today19:35
inetproai!19:35
Kilos-12.4919:36
Kilos-ek voel sleg nou19:36
inetproag nee man, vergeet dit19:36
Kilos-ai!19:37
Kilos-ok komons gaan slaap19:37
Kilos-kan more daaroor huil19:37
inetprokan nie sien hoe enigeen kan kwaad word daaroor nie19:37
inetprowat jy gesê het en wat jy gednk het is twee verskillende dinge19:37
Kilos-hulle al twee af gegaan19:37
Kilos-nee man ek weet remastersys werk19:38
Kilos-al is support verby19:38
Kilos-op 12.04 werk dit nog goed19:38
Kilos-lekker slaap boetie19:39
Kilos-night all. sleep tight'19:39
inetprolekker slaap19:40
inetproMaaz: ask charl what is a kloterij?19:51
Maazinetpro: Okay, I'll ask Charl on freenode19:51
inetproMaaz: ask charl_ what is a kloterij?19:51
Maazinetpro: Sure, I'll ask charl_ on freenode19:51
superflyinetpro: why is the home affairs site so slow? I could swear it's hosted on the other side of the world... :-/20:12
inetprosuperfly: maybe it is20:12
inetprosuperfly: look at it with Firebug20:15
inetproand you'll realise why20:15
superflyraoul@animal:~$ ping home-affairs.gov.za20:16
superflyping: unknown host home-affairs.gov.za20:16
superflyWAT?20:16
* inetpro is still waiting for everything to load and already it's over 15MB for loading just the home page20:17
inetprook done... 15.8 MB20:17
superflyinetpro: their servers are really really really broken20:17
inetprosuperfly: their home page contains a ridiculous amount of images20:18
superfly16.5MB20:18
superflywait, wait... it's not get finished20:18
superflyalready 333 requests20:18
* inetpro wonders what type of line they must have in order to handle that kind of load20:20
inetprototally out of line20:20
inetprowill see if I can find someone to speak to tomorrow20:21
inetprotheir network is most likely totally over utilised just because of that home page20:22
inetproanyway, me really going to sleep now20:23
inetprogood night20:23
smilesee ya later :20:33
smile:)20:33
smilegood night20:33

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