[04:58] <Kilos> hi superfly and others
[05:06] <mazal> More oom
[05:07] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[05:19] <nuvolari> o/ more oom Kilos 
[05:19] <nuvolari> hallo mazal 
[05:19] <Kilos> more nuvolari 
[05:22] <inetpro> good morning
[05:22] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[05:26] <bduk1> Morning everybody
[05:31] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[06:17] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:45] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:50] <Vince-0> !
[07:55] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:55] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[07:55] <Vince-0> its Turdsday
[07:56] <Kilos> yeah
[08:14] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[08:14] <nlsthzn> Good morning uncle Kilos 
[08:14] <nlsthzn> all well?
[08:15] <Kilos> kinda but funny on off stuffs
[08:15] <nlsthzn> ?
[08:15] <Kilos> i find when i shutdown the os the pc keeps running then no buttons work but if i tip pc on its side it switches off
[08:15] <Kilos> hehe
[08:16] <nlsthzn> ?
[08:16] <nlsthzn> that is very weird
[08:16] <Kilos> so somewhere there is some connection not good
[08:16] <Kilos> yeah but im mastering it
[08:16] <nlsthzn> I would recommend re-checking all the connections
[08:16] <Kilos> i have a coupla times
[08:16] <Kilos> exciting
[08:16] <Kilos> i love troubleshooting
[08:17] <Kilos> more fun than when everything just works
[08:18] <nlsthzn> sure if you don't have anything else of importance to do
[08:18] <Kilos> yeah
[08:18] <Kilos> i found the prob with the power on button
[08:19] <Kilos> they have the connectors shown wrong according to other gigabyte boards
[08:19] <Kilos> power and reset swopped around
[08:20] <Kilos> i agree, if you have work to do as well then its too much to go the troubleshooting route as well
[08:20] <nlsthzn> well that isn't a gigbyte board... the schematics for it is available online if I recall
[08:20] <Kilos> ag man ecs
[08:20] <Kilos> sorry
[08:20] <nlsthzn> :)
[08:20] <Kilos> i have 2 scrap ones here
[08:21] <Kilos> one ian bought as new in the box with books and all but cpu mounting points were scratched broken with a screwdriver
[08:22] <Kilos> peeps are evil
[08:22] <Kilos> hows things buy you nlsthzn ?
[08:22] <Kilos> by
[08:22] <nlsthzn> ok thanks uncle Kilos ... went to the first mall built here a few hours ago... it is ok, not many things open yet
[08:23] <Kilos> aha
[08:23] <Kilos> za full of malls
[08:25] <nlsthzn> even a new one in Secunda...
[08:25] <nlsthzn> lots of malls here in the big cities too... worlds biggest in Dubai
[08:25] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:25] <nlsthzn> and the mall with a built in ice ski
[08:25] <nlsthzn> go and play in the snow in the deser 
[08:25] <nlsthzn> *desert
[08:25] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:32] <Kilos> i just gonna reboot to set the bios clock
[09:14] <Kilos> inetpro, ek dink die weer sukkel. eks seker dit is op soek na elders. hulle se mos altyd dit reen elders
[09:16] <inetpro> ai!
[09:22] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[09:23] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:23] <magespawn> howdy all
[09:24] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[09:27] <magespawn> busy in training today
[09:27] <Kilos> nice
[09:27] <magespawn> learning new systems
[09:27] <Kilos> good
[09:33] <psyatw> hello magespawn
[09:33] <psyatw> what kind of systems?
[09:34] <magespawn> semper
[09:34] <magespawn> hotel management software
[09:36] <psyatw> I´ve never heard of that, but I hope it´s an interesting training
[09:38] <magespawn> bit boring, i just have to learn it so that when the users need supppoert
[09:41] <magespawn> struggling a bit here, i need sleep
[09:41] <Kilos> ai!
[09:41] <Kilos> hi smile 
[09:41] <smile> hi Kilos :D
[10:02] <Golynx> ai! system failure :(
[10:02] <Kilos> ouch
[10:02] <Kilos> what did you break
[10:02] <Golynx> Hi Kilos
[10:02] <Kilos> hi Golynx 
[10:02] <Golynx> root filesystem ownerships
[10:03] <Kilos> what are you doing in there?
[10:04] <smile> ?yhw ,tuptuo eht gnisreveR
[10:04] <smile> :p
[10:04] <Kilos> is that japanese?
[10:04] <smile> No, it's reversed output :p
[10:04] <Kilos> haha
[10:05] <Kilos> you messing my brain man
[10:05] <smile> :D
[10:05]  * smile hugs Kilos :)
[10:05] <Kilos> ty
[10:05] <Kilos> help Golynx rather and remember he is a noob
[10:05] <Golynx> I just wanted to change the permission on an apache php folder.  I went to that folder with cd /var/www/folder , then did sudo chown www-data /var/www/folder . Next thing i saw when i pressed enter was it was changing / directory to www-data user :(
[10:05] <Golynx> hi smile
[10:05] <Kilos> so no heavy stuff
[10:05] <smile> hi Golynx :)
[10:06] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[10:06] <smile> Golynx: yes, because you said the new owner must be www-data user? :D
[10:06] <Golynx> Now i got no root access because root user is not allowed to read/write anymore
[10:06] <Kilos> you gotta be careful of chown
[10:07] <Golynx> I never told it to chown the root directory :/
[10:07] <smile> Oh :(
[10:07] <smile> recovery mode? :)
[10:08] <Kilos> but why go to that folder and chown from there
[10:08] <Kilos> you want root to chown the folder
[10:09] <Golynx> I rebooted in recovery mode , then did mount -rw -o remount /  .It changed the root directories owners to root again, but other users where root never was is allowed in certain files ,like bluetooth dont use root it use another user , now network dont work 
[10:10] <smile> :(
[10:10] <Golynx> I'm i live cd now 
[10:11] <Golynx> I'm used to setting permissions like that Kilos
[10:11] <Kilos> save everything to somewhere
[10:11] <Golynx> vi chmod
[10:12] <Kilos> those things are dangerous to play with if you arent 100% sure what you are doing
[10:12] <Golynx> I'm waiting for  dvd from town, my sister wont let me use her phone to transfer to card again
[10:12] <charl_> good morning
[10:12] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[10:12]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[10:12] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[10:12] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[10:12] <Golynx> hi charl_
[10:13] <Kilos> help Golynx get root permissions back to root again
[10:13] <Golynx> I will reinstall ubuntu again tonight
[10:13] <charl_> hi Golynx 
[10:13] <charl_> what? root permissions back to root?
[10:14] <Kilos> I just wanted to change the permission on an apache php folder.  I went to that folder with cd /var/www/folder , then did sudo chown www-data /var/www/folder . Next thing i saw when i pressed enter was it was changing / directory to www-data user :(
[10:14] <Golynx> They are back to root Kilos, just root has overridden some other users like network use different users to access the network and bluetooth
[10:14] <Kilos> there is some way of sorting that
[10:15] <Kilos> all above me though
[10:15] <charl_> weird
[10:16] <charl_> you people are just skrewing around here now
[10:16] <Golynx> Was it a bug in the dvd ?
[10:16] <Kilos> all i chown now are externals and maybe /home/and the file that needs it
[10:16] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[10:16] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[10:16] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[10:16] <Kilos> only the file on its own
[10:16] <charl_> Maaz is best maid
[10:16] <Golynx> I never mess with / though
[10:17] <Kilos> bug in what dvd?
[10:17] <Golynx> remastersys
[10:17] <Kilos> the bug is in your hands
[10:17] <Kilos> not the dvd
[10:17] <Kilos> dvd dont chown stuff
[10:18] <Golynx> I mean errors it can cause in the os
[10:18] <Kilos> no dvd fine
[10:18] <Kilos> never had a faulty remastersys dvd yet
[10:18] <Golynx> ok fine
[10:19] <smile> brb :)
[10:19] <Kilos> so what is needed to be controlled from user that root controls now
[10:20] <Kilos> network
[10:20] <charl_> in dutch what you people are doing is called an "epische kloterij"
[10:20] <charl_> i will rather not translate it
[10:20] <Golynx> I've put 334MB of Archive stuff in a backups folder. Can i install the drivers from there and all other programs i downloaded before including Xfce ?
[10:20] <charl_> hi smile 1
[10:20] <charl_> how's it going
[10:20] <Kilos> ya but with gdebi
[10:21] <Kilos> try reinstalling them from synaptic
[10:21] <Kilos> the things that root has stolen control of now
[10:21] <Golynx> That will wana download it again
[10:21] <smile> hi charl_ :)
[10:21] <smile> fine! :D
[10:21] <charl_> long time no speak to, how's life
[10:21] <smile> charl_: I just managed to get my tabs vertical in ChatZilla :)
[10:21] <charl_> you going to fosdem?
[10:22] <smile> that allows many more tabs to be open at the same time = channels / users :)
[10:22] <Kilos> did you empty your archives?
[10:22] <smile> No :) I'm not going, are you?
[10:22] <charl_> ah, i don't really know chatzilla, i use irssi
[10:22] <charl_> i'm not sure, i would like to go but i just don't feel like sitting on the train
[10:22] <charl_> for me coming from the east it's hours and hours before i end up in brussel
[10:23] <Golynx> Nope just copied from terminal
[10:23] <charl_> and there also seems to be a lot of people going, they say 5K+
[10:24] <Kilos> then they must still be there so you can reinstall from synaptic without it downloading
[10:25] <charl_> wb smile 
[10:25] <smile> thank you :)
[10:25] <smile> charl_: I was installing https://github.com/hagabaka/chatzilla-plugins/tree/master/channel-tree
[10:25] <smile> And I just found the way to option to set it on the right :)
[10:26] <Golynx> I dont understand Kilos, i was planning to Erase the disk from live cd and reinstall ubuntu, so i can get back the correct ownerships for directories and files
[10:26] <charl_> smile: nice :)
[10:26] <charl_> can you alt+1,2,3 etc to change between tabs?
[10:27] <charl_> that's the one feature i love about irssi, i prefer keyboard navigation
[10:27] <smile> Golynx: good plan ;)
[10:28] <smile> charl_: yes, but it works strangely :p
[10:28] <Golynx> How will that bring back the correct ownerships Kilos , if i reinstalled the programs?
[10:28] <Kilos> im hoping synaptic will sort it
[10:28] <smile> since it uses the order of auto-joined channels, instead of A-Z
[10:28] <smile> I will now sort my auto-join channels A-Z
[10:28] <charl_> smile: ooh no that's not so handy
[10:28] <charl_> yeah good idea
[10:28] <smile> charl_: then it'll work ;)
[10:29] <Golynx> :/ i dunno about that 
[10:29] <charl_> i am busy playing with semplice now
[10:29] <charl_> a very nice openbox-based debian derivative
[10:30] <Golynx> There is no programs downloaded in Archives that controls the bluetooth and network for example, they are already default in ubuntu
[10:31] <Golynx> And their permissions are already compromized, no way to reinstall them without reinstalling the entire os
[10:31] <smile> brb, again :D
[10:31] <Kilos> charl_, smile help Golynx please
[10:32] <smile> it won't bring back the correct ownerships :) just reinstall, will save you a lot of headaches
[10:32] <smile> ;)
[10:33] <smile> back :)
[10:34] <Golynx> So thats my only option now. Reinstall ubuntu and then install the drivers and other software from the backup i made of the Archives
[10:34] <smile> charl_: it now works
[10:35] <smile> It's not your only, but it's probably your best :)
[10:35] <Kilos> Golynx, 
[10:35] <Kilos> do you have a dvd there
[10:35] <Kilos> remastersys it
[10:36] <smile> Kilos: won't that take the bad ownerships with it? :p
[10:36] <Golynx> I will tonight Kilos
[10:36] <Kilos> or just make sure you have the whole archives saved
[10:37] <Golynx> ai, i used to just restore win7 to a previous date , funny ubuntu dont have that
[10:37] <Kilos> if you use the backup option it might i dunno but there is an iso option that doesnt do a full backup of what you have working like settings
[10:38] <Golynx> Yes i have about 330MB of programs in the Archives i put that with my other backedup data
[10:38] <Kilos> so min
[10:39] <Kilos> i have 9.5g
[10:39] <Kilos> do you know that path to the backup?
[10:40] <Kilos> if so do sudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /path to backup/
[10:40] <Golynx> Will have to do the remastersys thing when the system is healthy again
[10:40] <Kilos> that will sort whats not already in the saved archives
[10:42] <Kilos> mainly you need all the xubuntu-desktop and its dependancies saved for sure
[10:43] <Kilos> and all the updated packages
[10:43] <Kilos> wb psy
[10:45] <charl_> hi sorry, was busy organising a new office
[10:45] <charl_> smile: ah great
[10:45] <psyatw> hi charl_
[10:45] <psyatw> hi smile
[10:45] <psyatw> ty Kilos
[10:45] <charl_> Kilos: you people are making an epic mess with that remastersys
[10:45] <charl_> psyatw: hi there!
[10:45] <Kilos> why charl_ 
[10:46] <Kilos> have you used it
[10:46] <charl_> Kilos: remastersys is a tool for people who want to do mass-rollouts on corporate desktops or people who want to create specialist derivatives like security, privacy, etc
[10:46] <Kilos> i can do a clean install and only need 40m to get fully updated/upgraded
[10:46] <Golynx> hmm
[10:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> um
[10:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> its hardly a clean install, just a backup of your existing setup
[10:47] <charl_> yeah exactly
[10:48] <charl_> not that there is anything wrong with it, the tools are provided and you use them as you see fit
[10:48] <Kilos> ya that ThatGraemeGuy i mean wipe the drive and install from scratch
[10:48] <charl_> but i still can't help but think you are making an epic "kloterij" out of this
[10:49] <Golynx> I will like a backup of my system though. If it breaks i can just reload everything specific to the pc hardware from remastersys
[10:49] <Kilos> when you can help then make comments
[10:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah guess i'll just stfu then
[10:50] <charl_> yes me too, i stay far out of this :P
[10:51] <Golynx> ai
[10:51] <Kilos> Golynx, when you have everything installed and working properly look at redobackup
[10:51] <Kilos> ill try fing the link
[10:51] <Kilos> find
[10:52] <Golynx> will do Kilos 
[10:52] <Kilos> http://redobackup.org/features.php
[10:53] <Kilos> sorry ThatGraemeGuy charl_ 
[10:53] <Kilos> i use remastersys all the time to install to three pcs and had no probs
[10:53] <Kilos> didnt wanna be nasty
[10:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> I don't think its good to keep pushing a third-party app on people as a solution, especially when the app isn't even maintained anymore
[10:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> and that's the last i'll be saying
[11:01] <Golynx> bbl ty Kilos
[11:01] <Kilos> good luck gol
[11:05] <smile> hi psyatw 
[11:05] <smile> :)
[11:35] <magespawn> big storm here
[11:35] <magespawn> hi smile
[11:35] <charl_> hi magespawn 
[11:36] <magespawn> hi there charl_ 
[11:36] <smile> hi magespawn :)
[11:36] <charl_> you installing cool wireless setups?
[11:36] <charl_> you must make fotos :)
[11:36] <charl_> *photos
[11:36] <magespawn> not at the moment, busy getting training on Semper
[11:36] <magespawn> good idea charl_ 
[11:36] <charl_> semper? what is that?
[11:37] <Xethron> hi Kilos
[11:37] <charl_> hi Xethron 
[11:52] <magespawn> charl_, hotel management software
[11:58] <charl_> oh yes, hold on a second
[11:58] <charl_> i used to know a guy that used to work at semper
[11:58] <charl_> i forgot his name though
[12:00] <charl_> hi tinuva 
[12:00] <charl_> magespawn: afaik they have a development office in george
[12:02] <magespawn> Noel?
[12:05] <magespawn> charl_, they guy we are getting trained by Noel?
[12:05] <charl_> doesn't sound familiar, it was from too long ago
[12:05] <magespawn> ah well one of those things.
[12:05] <charl_> oh wait now i remember
[12:05] <charl_> the guy was called stiaan pretorius
[12:06] <charl_> but he used to work there a long time ago
[12:06] <magespawn> just need to scratch the brain a bit
[12:16] <charl_> work, bbl
[14:12] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:34] <theblazehen> hi
[14:35] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[14:35] <Kilos> Maaz, wb
[14:35] <Maaz> Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend
[14:35] <theblazehen> ?
[14:35] <Kilos> Maaz has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[14:36] <theblazehen> ah
[16:07] <magespawn> evening all
[16:14] <theblazehen> hey magespawn 
[16:14] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[16:22] <magespawn> whats up?
[16:22] <Kilos> dunno been asleep
[16:25] <magespawn> had a heavy but short rain storm here
[16:25] <Kilos> we still hoping
[16:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:11] <magespawn> back again
[17:20] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:20] <Kilos> what happened
[17:22] <Kilos> they lowering schumis meds so he can wake up
[17:22] <Kilos> month in a forced coma
[17:29] <magespawn> 3g dropped me for awhile there
[17:30] <magespawn> sounds like a good thing, but i suppose they will only know if everything is okay after he wakes up
[17:31] <Kilos> yeah they kept him under so the swelling could go down and also do 2 ops
[17:33] <magespawn> pretty amazing what they can do
[17:33] <Kilos> yeah
[18:01] <Kilos> wb Golynx 
[18:02] <inetpro> good evening
[18:02] <Golynx> Kilos i burned my data to a dvd with Xfburn. It said completed. but when i check if there is data on i cant find a way to do that
[18:02] <Golynx> ty
[18:03] <Golynx> I mean their is no dvd-rom drive icon anywhere
[18:03] <Golynx> hi inetpro
[18:03] <Kilos> can you open it?
[18:03] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[18:04] <Kilos> oh
[18:04] <Golynx> I insert the dvd and i cant find a way to check it
[18:04] <Golynx> How does linux do that
[18:04] <Kilos> must be there somewhere in one of them things in the top panel on the left
[18:05] <Kilos> like computer ans cdrom etc
[18:05] <Golynx> Nope no drives mentioned there , not even the HHD
[18:05] <Kilos> i cant picture what the stuff is in xfce
[18:05]  * inetpro played with CentOS a bit in the last two days
[18:05] <inetpro> must say yum is quite nice these days
[18:06] <Golynx> In unity too i dont see that
[18:06] <Kilos> thats nice inetpro 
[18:06] <inetpro> but it's quite clear that Ubuntu server is ahead in the race
[18:06] <Kilos> in unity a cdrom shows on the launcher panel
[18:06] <Kilos> thats nice to know
[18:07] <Kilos> i didnt enjoy centos at all. but mine is old
[18:07] <Golynx> I didnt see a cdrom on the launcher panel
[18:08] <Kilos> at the bottom
[18:08] <Kilos> drag mouse down
[18:08] <inetpro> for instance it looks like they only started now to use the service command with upstart
[18:08] <Kilos> remove the office stuff
[18:08] <Kilos> why do all the server peeps say centos is better
[18:08] <magespawn> hi inetpro  Golynx 
[18:09] <Kilos> or redhat anyway
[18:09] <inetpro> I also don't like how they drop you into root by default
[18:09] <Golynx> No cdrom icon Kilos
[18:09] <inetpro> dangerous
[18:09] <Golynx> hi magespawn
[18:09] <Kilos> Golynx, can you see if it was burned
[18:09] <magespawn> inetpro, i thought was their default way, nothing done by the system for you
[18:09] <Kilos> like differnt colour on the read surface
[18:10] <Golynx> Thats what i wana see Kilos, but i cant find the cdrom drive anywhere
[18:10] <Kilos> look on the dvd itself
[18:10] <Golynx> huh? dvd itself ?
[18:11] <Kilos> if you put the remaster dvd in does that show up
[18:11] <Kilos> ya you can normally see when data is burned onto dvds
[18:11] <inetpro> first thing I missed was byobu, fortunately it's available in the Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (EPEL)
[18:11] <Golynx> Do you mean the "Install Custom 12.04" icon on the desktop ?
[18:12] <Kilos> ya 
[18:12] <Kilos> see  if that shows
[18:12] <Kilos> no man
[18:12] <Golynx> ok lemme check that
[18:12] <Kilos> if you put that dvd in dont you see it anywhere
[18:13] <magespawn> Kilos, looks like not
[18:14] <Kilos> excuse me magespawn im lost
[18:14] <magespawn> i also thought centos/red hat was for the professional who would know how to do all they needed
[18:14] <Kilos> lol
[18:15] <magespawn> your last statement was a sort of question, i took his leaving as the answer
[18:15] <Kilos> oh
[18:15] <Kilos> i think he was on the live dvd
[18:17] <inetpro> magespawn: it (centos) clearly is very popular
[18:17] <inetpro> more than 450 nicks in #centos
[18:18] <Kilos> whew
[18:18] <magespawn> i liked using, if only for the learning curve on how the things are different
[18:18] <inetpro> but they down't beat #ubuntu with more than 1800 nicks
[18:20] <inetpro> impossible to follow conversations in busy channels like that
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:27] <Kilos> Golynx, ?
[18:28] <Golynx> Kilos no cd or dvd is picked up by the installed ubuntu. So i guess its the mixed up permissions. The reboot, shutdown and sound dont work aswell
[18:28] <Kilos> ouch
[18:28] <Golynx> and network and bluetooth dont work too
[18:29] <Golynx> So now i'm gona erase the old ubuntu and install the new one
[18:29] <Kilos> so how did you write the packages to dvd then?
[18:29] <Golynx> That should fix everything
[18:29] <Kilos> are you sure that worked?
[18:30] <Golynx> I chose a data disc on dvd+r
[18:30] <Golynx> It said completed and dvd was hot when it ejected, so i guess it got put on
[18:31] <Kilos> ok
[18:31] <Kilos> are you gonna wipe the whole drive
[18:31] <Golynx> Yes , just like last time
[18:31] <Kilos> think about making seperate partitions
[18:32] <Kilos> then you can save you /home in case you need to install again
[18:32] <Golynx> It will freeze again, but i got a trick . I put the mouse pointer in the window so it stays active that way and keyboard works
[18:32] <Kilos> you play with dangerous commands
[18:33] <Golynx> hmm never did that
[18:33] <Kilos> what will freeze?
[18:33] <Kilos> and why?
[18:34] <Golynx> When i install from live cd it usually freeze 
[18:34] <Golynx> the screen i mean
[18:34] <Kilos> wow
[18:34] <Kilos> ok good luck then
[18:35] <Golynx> Dunno about the partition thing though, /home got mixed up ownerships too
[18:35] <Golynx> ty
[18:35] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[18:35] <psydroid> hi Golynx 
[18:35] <Kilos> wait Golynx 
[18:35] <psydroid> hi Kilos 
[18:35] <Golynx> hi psydroid
[18:35] <Golynx> yes
[18:36] <Kilos> boot from the dvd then go install then choose other options
[18:36] <Kilos> then make 30g / partition
[18:36] <Kilos> 2g swap
[18:37] <Kilos> 80g /home
[18:37] <Golynx> lol i wont even wana try that. I'm sure i will mess things up
[18:37] <Kilos> and the rest you type it by moint point /storage
[18:37] <Kilos> ok let it do its thing then
[18:37] <Kilos> good luck
[18:38] <Golynx> I wana clear the bad filesystems and fix them
[18:38] <Kilos> ok
[18:39] <Golynx> ok i will let ubuntu do everything , hope things works 
[18:39] <Golynx> take care
[18:40] <Kilos> shame poor kid
[18:41] <Kilos> i lead him astray
[18:46] <Kilos> he gonna be like me learn by reinstalling many times
[18:48] <magespawn> one of the best ways to learn, you have to take the training wheels off some time
[18:49] <Kilos> lol
[18:49] <Kilos> shame he killed all his permissions with a chown command
[18:50] <Kilos> root took everything
[18:50] <magespawn> wow
[18:50] <magespawn> that was pretty drastic chown then
[18:52] <Kilos> yeah he did it from the www.something folder
[18:53] <Kilos> I just wanted to change the permission on an apache php folder.  I went to that folder with cd /var/www/folder , then did sudo chown www-data /var/www/folder . Next thing i saw when i pressed enter was it was changing / directory to www-data user :(
[18:53] <Kilos> thats what he did
[18:55] <magespawn> okay then
[18:55] <magespawn> i am off to bed, good night all
[18:56] <Kilos> night magespawn 
[18:57] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:57] <Kilos> jy ook inetpro 
[18:57]  * inetpro likes the #centos irc web page http://wiki.centos.org/irc
[18:57] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[18:57] <inetpro> Kilos: lekker slaap, maar gaan lees daai bladsy as jy tyd het
[18:57] <Kilos> ek sal nou gaan kyk, jy moet gaan slaap
[18:58] <inetpro> nog so 'n rukkie aanlyn
[18:58] <Kilos> lol
[19:01] <Kilos> what bot are they using inetpro ?
[19:01] <Kilos> clever one
[19:01] <inetpro> not sure, but there are plenty of bots out there man
[19:02] <Kilos> tl;dr
[19:02] <Kilos> haha
[19:04] <Kilos> ive done badblocks and fsck -f on the 2TB drive, all shows clear but can only install xp on it
[19:04] <Kilos> grrr
[19:05] <Kilos> ive even learned how to install xp on 2 different partitions
[19:08] <Kilos> inetpro, 
[19:08] <inetpro> ?
[19:09] <Kilos> you clever, make us a ubuntu-za-social channel for off topics
[19:09] <inetpro> why?
[19:09] <Kilos> i think thats what you like about them centos peeps
[19:09] <inetpro> no
[19:09] <Kilos> no off topic stuff in main channel
[19:10] <Kilos> ok
[19:10] <inetpro> it's a different ball game
[19:10] <inetpro> with so many users you can't afford to waste peoples time
[19:10] <inetpro> would be chaos
[19:11] <inetpro> in fact I even opened #centos-za so long, in case I decide to use it for the long run
[19:11] <Kilos> lol
[19:12] <Kilos> i cant remember how i made my channel even. member you helped though
[19:13] <inetpro> you just join a new channel
[19:13] <inetpro> and then go register it
[19:13] <Kilos> no man
[19:13] <Kilos> oh
[19:14] <Kilos> whew 
[19:14] <inetpro> easier than falling off a tree
[19:14] <inetpro> before falling off a tree you must first climb up
[19:15] <Kilos> haha ive jhoined #ubuntu-za-social
[19:15] <Kilos> joined as well
[19:16]  * inetpro joined too many channels already, busy closing some 
[19:20] <Kilos-> modem disconnected
[19:33] <inetpro> Kilos-: gaan slaap nou oom :-)
[19:34] <Kilos-> ek of jy? inetpro 
[19:34] <inetpro> altwee
[19:34] <Kilos-> mense kwaad my hier
[19:34] <inetpro> hoekom?
[19:35] <Kilos-> ek het iets dom gese
[19:35] <Kilos-> i said if you cant help dont comment
[19:35] <inetpro> haha
[19:35] <inetpro> when?
[19:35] <Kilos-> twee mense kwaad gemaak vir my
[19:35] <Kilos-> today
[19:35] <inetpro> ai!
[19:36] <Kilos-> 12.49
[19:36] <Kilos-> ek voel sleg nou
[19:36] <inetpro> ag nee man, vergeet dit
[19:37] <Kilos-> ai!
[19:37] <Kilos-> ok komons gaan slaap
[19:37] <Kilos-> kan more daaroor huil
[19:37] <inetpro> kan nie sien hoe enigeen kan kwaad word daaroor nie
[19:37] <inetpro> wat jy gesê het en wat jy gednk het is twee verskillende dinge
[19:37] <Kilos-> hulle al twee af gegaan
[19:38] <Kilos-> nee man ek weet remastersys werk
[19:38] <Kilos-> al is support verby
[19:38] <Kilos-> op 12.04 werk dit nog goed
[19:39] <Kilos-> lekker slaap boetie
[19:39] <Kilos-> night all. sleep tight'
[19:40] <inetpro> lekker slaap
[19:51] <inetpro> Maaz: ask charl what is a kloterij?
[19:51] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay, I'll ask Charl on freenode
[19:51] <inetpro> Maaz: ask charl_ what is a kloterij?
[19:51] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll ask charl_ on freenode
[20:12] <superfly> inetpro: why is the home affairs site so slow? I could swear it's hosted on the other side of the world... :-/
[20:12] <inetpro> superfly: maybe it is
[20:15] <inetpro> superfly: look at it with Firebug
[20:15] <inetpro> and you'll realise why
[20:16] <superfly> raoul@animal:~$ ping home-affairs.gov.za
[20:16] <superfly> ping: unknown host home-affairs.gov.za
[20:16] <superfly> WAT?
[20:17]  * inetpro is still waiting for everything to load and already it's over 15MB for loading just the home page
[20:17] <inetpro> ok done... 15.8 MB
[20:17] <superfly> inetpro: their servers are really really really broken
[20:18] <inetpro> superfly: their home page contains a ridiculous amount of images
[20:18] <superfly> 16.5MB
[20:18] <superfly> wait, wait... it's not get finished
[20:18] <superfly> already 333 requests
[20:20]  * inetpro wonders what type of line they must have in order to handle that kind of load
[20:20] <inetpro> totally out of line
[20:21] <inetpro> will see if I can find someone to speak to tomorrow
[20:22] <inetpro> their network is most likely totally over utilised just because of that home page
[20:23] <inetpro> anyway, me really going to sleep now
[20:23] <inetpro> good night
[20:33] <smile> see ya later :
[20:33] <smile> :)
[20:33] <smile> good night