[00:00] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: to make that transparent? xfce4-terminal to launch it, right-click to prefs > appearance tab
[00:00] <daftykins> stuppy: so you type a username and then it stalls?
[00:01] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: No, the installation :p
[00:01] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: sudo apt-get install xfce4-terminal
[00:02] <kalekip1_> Oh, lol.. I should've just guessed it.
[00:02] <stuppy> no, I can login at the command prompt, but I can't get out of the lock screen in the session, no password dialog. And I don't wt to kill the sessionmid dist-upgrade.
[00:05] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Thanks. I'll just use xfce4-terminal :/
[00:05] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: And how can I set it as default? :P
[00:05] <da1ly> Hi there, when asked to download 32-bit development libraries, what packages is it asking me to install?
[00:07] <BetaSoul> How does one get ati fglrx and unity to play nice?
[00:07] <BetaSoul> in 13.10
[00:09] <wlightning-fuel> Is there a way to login as another user, but have their desktop show up in a window of the current user?
[00:09] <stuppy> @daftykins - nevermind. After about 45 minutes of non-reponse, it is now un-hung and letting me back in. Quick disable screen shutoff and curse my old computer; thanks for responding.
[00:09] <daftykins> stuppy: np :) good luck with it
[00:09] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: from terminal .. sudo update-alternatives –config x-terminal-emulator .. there's also a GUI app for this called galternatives
[00:10] <bekks> wlightning-fuel: nope, not without heavy duty. you could setup nxclient/nxserver, etc.
[00:10] <Bashing-om> BetaSoul: depends on weather ATI still supports the card. ->lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga .
[00:11] <BetaSoul> Bashing-om: Mobility Radeon HD 5650.
[00:12] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Thanks again.
[00:12] <BetaSoul> Driver installed, and reads the correct card, but unity won't start
[00:12] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: just for fun and general fyi --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/how-to-use-xfce4-terminal-06x-as-drop.html to use drop-down functionality if you're so inclined :p
[00:13] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: you're welcome, that was quite the ordeal to get a transparent terminal emulator..
[00:14] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: I have two problems. One problem I previously also had and another small problem. The small problem is that I want I-beam instead of the []. The greater problem is that many menu items are disabled for me.
[00:14] <kalekip1_> (Unless I open a program with root ofcourse)
[00:15] <kalekip1_> I'm an admin... :/
[00:15] <Minnen> im looking for a good alternative to devede, faster and with better quality output, if anyone has a good recommendation it would be appreciatted
[00:15] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: afraid i don't know about I-beam .. disabled menu items hmm, in unity?
[00:16] <bekks> Whats "I-beam", and "[]"?
[00:16] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Yes. (I-beam is the "|" instead of the squary thing)
[00:16] <kalekip1_> Not sure how to explain it. You also see that in the chat here.
[00:16] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: that much i get, the beaming part escapes me :p
[00:17] <kalekip1_> that's what it's called (I guess)
[00:17] <Bashing-om> BetaSoul: Not sure at all, yuk, see : http://askubuntu.com/questions/387969/graphics-card-driver-issues-ati-radeon-hd-4200 - last paragraph. Still I be looking.
[00:18] <BetaSoul> Bashing-om: Looks like I need the beta driver, hoever, I can't remove the one that's already installed.
[00:20] <kalekip1_> Also, what's wrong with this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iyxpcgsyow6utwu/Ubuntu%20-%20users%20bug.png ?
[00:23] <wlightning-fuel> bekks, hmm.. did figure it out eventually.. aparently all you have to do is dm-tool add-nested-seat
[00:23] <wlightning-fuel> (with Xephyr installed)
[00:27] <nigel> Hi, Im having issues with ubuntu 12.04LTS & want to try a fresh reinstall after backing my data up, whats the easiest way to do this?
[00:27] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: never saw that effect before, looks like it might be a theme issue .. do you see it when you change themes?
[00:27] <bekks> nigel: Insert the installation medium, install.
[00:27] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: I never changed my theme.
[00:27] <nigel> bekks: ok, so it will re-write everything?
[00:27] <Buryo> can you install linux ubuntu on a virtual machine like oracle?
[00:28] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: I have 2 apps though: Ubuntu Tweak and Unity Tweak Tool
[00:28] <bekks> nigel: Of course. You said "after backing up..." - so I have to assume you already cretaed a full backup.
[00:29] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: i see, that's the default Adwaita theme indeed .. just wondered if you notice any change when changing temporarily
[00:29] <nigel> ok thanks for your help :)
[00:30] <Tuck_C_Dough> NO MOUSE CURSOR in 12.04 lts. tried to install  on a very old single processor computer, an ASUS K8V mb. There is no pointer, just a semi transparent box that disappears on a black background or an all white background.
[00:30] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Ambiance :p No, it didn't fix it.
[00:30] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: are you running a vanilla ubuntu or added some gnome related PPA's perhaps?
[00:31] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: just guessing here though
[00:31] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: I think I did. Can I see a list somewhere?
[00:32] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: run .. software-properties-gtk and check the 'software tab'
[00:32] <bmccoy11> Sup
[00:33] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Yes, I have a few. Can I safely uncheck them all?
[00:33] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: there's a better way to purge PPA's, unchecking there will not purge any packages installed from them
[00:33] <glitsj16> !ppa-purge | kalekip1_
[00:34] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: It's so late now. :P
[00:34] <laila> hello, I just installed amd's fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdcccle-updates from apt, but I cant's see the catalyst control panel anywhere, nor I think is the binary in /usr/bin
[00:34] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: that might explain the earlier trouble with gnome-terminal now i think of it
[00:34] <kalekip1_> Crap.
[00:35] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: no need to do it now, just so you know where to start looking for answers
[00:35] <kalekip1_> There is also something wrong with my internet :/
[00:35] <kalekip1_> I can't download packages and can't surf on the internet. I can stream a video and chat though
[00:35] <kalekip1_> very weird
[00:35] <glitsj16> bad day at the office all together ..
[00:36] <snoopy> Hello, does anybody know have to install Java on Virtualbox running Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:36] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Well, I'm at home :p
[00:36] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Hopefully a reboot will fix SOMEthing.
[00:37] <Bashing-om> BetaSoul: Looking about, seems that the ATI card is no longer supported by (AMD), as to reemoving the current driver(s), -integrated- I do not know. Others will have to advise - so you can go to the open source driver that does support that card.
[00:37] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: not a bad idea, seems you have a few things confused
[00:37] <kalekip1_> I´m heading off now. It´s getting late. Good night.
[00:37] <sh0t> kalekip1_, are u sure
[00:37] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: likewise and goodluck
[00:37] <sh0t> u have nwo proxy server set?
[00:37] <SailorRealitty> d035 kn0w1ng 4 |07 4b0u7 Ubun7u bu7 n07h1ng 3|53 m4k3 y0u 4 n00b 0r |337?
[00:37] <sh0t> which is no working
[00:37] <kalekip1_> sh0t: I didn't touch anything  :S
[00:38] <kalekip1_> I'll look at it tomorrow. It's almost 2 o'clock.
[00:38] <sh0t> yeah
[00:38] <sh0t> good night
[00:38] <Tuck_C_Dough> oi sailormoon... easy on the elite speek
[00:39] <snoopy> I generally only speak English
[00:40] <SailorRealitty> h3y pr0gr4mm3r_
[00:40] <SailorRealitty> _pr0gr4mm3r d0 y0u 5p34k |337
[00:41] <dupingping86> Hi new world!
[00:42] <dupingping86> Now Mir steel being developed?
[00:42] <somsip> !mir | dupingping86
[00:43] <dupingping86> somsip: mir
[00:43] <dupingping86> about mir?
[00:43] <dupingping86> I wish to join to develop mir!
[00:43] <somsip> dupingping86: follow the link to launchpad then
[00:44] <dupingping86> I super python developer!
[00:45] <foobar1009> How do I install PHP 3.5.8 on Ubuntu?
[00:45] <foobar1009> It has to be that specific version of PHP
[00:45] <aouldr78> Hi everyone :)
[00:46] <somsip> foobar1009: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:47] <foobar1009> somsip, 12.10
[00:47] <somsip> !info php5 quantal
[00:47] <somsip> foobar1009: and you *really* want 3.5.8???
[00:47] <aouldr78> What is the best configuration management software for linux like Microsoft SCCM?
[00:47] <foobar1009> somsip, I thas to be 3.5.8 because the server that I am writing code for runs that version
[00:48] <foobar1009> Why they are using such an old version of PHP I dont know
[00:48] <somsip> foobar1009: *3*.5.8? That's evil. I'd suggest setting up a VM for that, but where you get a version that old, I have no idea
[00:48] <foobar1009> somsip, I guess I'll just ask them to make me a shell account on the server so I can develop for it
[00:51] <aouldr78> I heard of Ubuntu Landscape and Red Hat Satellite but these software aren't free!
[00:52] <nicknicknick> Hello.
[00:52] <xip> Hey guys, my friend just got a new laptop with windows pre-installed. ASUS G750jx-T4035H (ROG) and I want to install Ubuntu on it, as a seperate partition. I figured it should be rather easy, but the installation doesn't even recognize that there is Windows installed on the machine?
[00:53] <nicknicknick> I need some help. I am unable to login graphically
[00:53] <dupingping86> xip: details
[00:53] <dupingping86> ?
[00:53] <Logan_> dupingping86: /join #ubuntu-mir
[00:53] <dupingping86> ok Logan
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> xip have you got the live cd loaded now on the laptop?
[00:54] <xip> No, but I can do that. Could you help me out?
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> xip yup
[00:55] <xip> Alright just a moment then I'll boot it up
[00:55] <aouldr78> XIP: most new laptops come with windows 8 and windows 8 uses EFI to lock the HDD so you need to start the BIO and change the setting to legacy boot so ubuntu can recognize the HDD
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> xip load the live cdand pop into "try ubuntu"
[00:56] <Minnen> GIMP is worst than just bad
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> aouldr78: thats completely wrong
[00:57] <xip> Sorry, the model is ASUS G750JW-T4030H. Well I'm waiting for the Live CD to run.. just a moment
[00:57] <aouldr78> :) that what I had to do to install Ubuntu. I know Ubuntu now supports UEFI but it needs to shutdown Windows 8 properly to be able to partition the HDD
[00:58] <te> Minnen: So, what is wrong with gimp?
[00:58] <Minnen> idk, honestly im just mad cuz i feel it makes the simplest tasks complicated
[00:59] <lazyPower> Minnen, thats not an uncommon opinion. I know many people who say the same.
[00:59] <foobar1009> somsip, is it bad if someone is using php 3.5.8 by the way?
[00:59] <somsip> foobar1009: how old id that now?
[01:00] <somsip> *is
[01:00] <foobar1009> 4-5 years old now
[01:00] <lazyPower> somsip, its been depreciated.
[01:00] <nicknicknick> I am having issues loggin in. I am unable to login normally, nor able to use 'startx' (which stops loading after a while.)
[01:00] <somsip> lazyPower: I know that....
[01:00] <somsip> foobar1009: yeah - horribly out of date
[01:00] <lazyPower> well that means its no longer receiving security updates. That should be #1 why they should update.
[01:00] <foobar1009> oh okay then, the people im dealing with are very incompetent then
[01:00] <somsip> foobar1009: they need to review their servers for sure
[01:00] <foobar1009> They showed me some of their code and like half of the lines used eval statements
[01:01] <foobar1009> for no apparent reason
[01:01] <lazyPower> oh, i targeted the wrong person, sorry somsip
[01:01] <somsip> lazyPower: np :)
[01:01]  * lazyPower goes back to minding his own business
[01:01] <xip> hitsujiTMO: Alright so I have the Live CD running on the laptop. So what to do from here pal?
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> xip sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:02] <te> Minnen: Image Minuplation applications are very complicated programs, they have *many* functions, sometimes it is hard to wade through so many options to get to what you want to do.
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> xip: sudo fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit && dmesg | grep efi | pastebinit
[01:03] <shinobi_one> using software raid 1, will the bootsector only be written to the primary drive?
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> xip those 2 commands there should produce 2 urls. can you paste both urls here
[01:04] <xip> hitsujiTMO: It seems to be still loading, I'll return in a moment
[01:04] <nicknicknick> I am having issues loggin in. I am unable to login normally, nor able to use 'startx' (which stops loading after a while.)
[01:05] <aouldr78> nicknick: restart the computer and while starting press Esc or Shift to get to the boot grub. When you get to the option to choose which kernel, the press letter (e) to edit the kernel grub, then add 1 or single to the line where the linux start to boot in single mode. then change your password and type reboot.
[01:05] <aouldr78> You can also press Ctrl + Alt + F1  to F6 to start another terminal
[01:05] <nicknicknick> I know.
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: what exactly do you mean by: " unable to login normall"
[01:05] <nicknicknick> *normally.
[01:05] <nicknicknick> As in using lightdm instead of terinal
[01:06] <nicknicknick> *terminal
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: but what exactly happens? do you get back to lightdm?
[01:06] <m1dnight> are there any C programmers here?
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> m1dnight: ##c
[01:06] <m1dnight> orly onw
[01:06] <m1dnight> thnx :)
[01:10] <xip> How do I write | in the terminal?
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> xip its a character on your keyboard. what keyboard layout do you use?
[01:10] <xip> Swedish layout, when I try to make the combination it just flips through to my previous command
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> xip: did you set the keyboard layout in the live session? it defaults to us otherwise
[01:12] <xip> When running Live CD it was not possible to choose
[01:13] <shinobi_one> anyone have or know of an example where i can copy the bootsector on a software raid 1 to the second drive to be able to boot from it incase of drive1 failure?
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> xip: in the system tray of the 13.10 you can change it there. else in System Settings -> Text Entry
[01:13] <grendal_prime> has anyone here had any luck setting up an ldap server (especially with gosa)?
[01:14] <dupingping86> hello
[01:14] <dupingping86> world
[01:14] <dupingping86> What ABI of mir?
[01:14] <dupingping86> What ABI in mir project?
[01:15] <somsip> dupingping86: stop asking this question. You've been told where to go by different people
[01:16] <dupingping86> somsip: why?
[01:16] <somsip> dupingping86: join #ubuntu-mir or follow the links shown below
[01:16] <somsip> !mir | dupingping86
[01:16] <dupingping86> what !mir
[01:17] <dupingping86> what !mir somsip
[01:17] <grendal_prime> hmmm...guess not
[01:17] <hd> I want to find all the characters after "ab", and I did this: echo "ababb" | grep -oh "ab." However, the answer was only aba, I expect aba and abb. What's wrong with this?
[01:17] <somsip> hd: use a regex
[01:18] <hd> somsip: what do you mean?
[01:18] <somsip> hd: oh, hang on. No. er....
[01:18] <dupingping86> somsip: ! = not ?
[01:19] <dupingping86> your mean is "not mir"?
[01:19] <somsip> !ot | dupingping86
[01:19] <dupingping86> correct?
[01:19] <dupingping86> somsip: correct?
[01:20] <dupingping86> I like correct!
[01:20] <gopi> hi any one can help me?
[01:20] <dupingping86> ok
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> hd: you'd ave to use awk. grep doesn't support groups
[01:20] <dupingping86> gopi: any problems
[01:20] <gopi> i would like to download dependency package of libxss1.tar.gz
[01:21] <gopi> where i will download this?
[01:21] <hd> hitsujiTMO: ohh, I see. Do you know anything about python regex? I'm horrible in awk
[01:21] <dupingping86> please wait a minute
[01:21] <gopi> ya sure...
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> hd: match = re.search(r'ab(.*)$', str); print(match.group(1))
[01:23] <dupingping86> gopi:
[01:24] <xip> hitsujiTMO: I sent you the pastebins
[01:24] <dupingping86> http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libx/libxss/libxss_1.2.2.orig.tar.gz
[01:24] <gopi> ya, where will i download this?
[01:24] <dupingping86> gopi: have you skype id?
[01:24] <dupingping86> I send you through skype
[01:24] <gopi> i didnt installed skype in my machine..
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> gopi:  libxss1.tar.gz is a tar archive not a package. where did you get the archive from?
[01:25] <gopi> i want to install libxss1 package from tar.gz
[01:25] <dupingping86> hmm
[01:25] <gopi> yes i want that tar archive
[01:26] <dupingping86> gopi: follow url: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libx/libxss/libxss_1.2.2.orig.tar.gz
[01:26] <dupingping86> enter your url location bar:
[01:26] <dupingping86> gopi: ok?
[01:27] <gopi> is this support all distributions or only for debian based distros?
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[01:28] <dupingping86> gopi: this is not only for debian!
[01:28] <gopi> ok.... i'll try to install and tell you the result...
[01:29] <gopi> it shows the following error " No package 'scrnsaverproto' found"
[01:30] <hd> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[01:30] <gopi> while am compiling that source packages, it shows that error
[01:30] <gopi> what will i do
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[01:31] <dupingping86> show me error
[01:31] <gopi> hitsujiTM0: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[01:31] <gopi> this is the output of your command
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: libxss1 is in the repos. install it from there
[01:32] <Braden`> Hello.  If I have ssh in a root jail, is there a way to make it so that if the user who logs in via the jail can execute a script that will affect something outside of the jail?
[01:32] <dupingping86> gopi: before build
[01:32] <Braden`> I want them to be able to restart a process, but not browse the who file system
[01:32] <Braden`> whole
[01:32] <hd> hitsujiTMO: this time it gave me "abb". I want both "aba" and "abb"
[01:32] <dupingping86> apt-get build-dep libxss1
[01:32] <dupingping86> enter the command: "apt-get build-dep libxss1"
[01:33] <dupingping86> gopi: enter the command: "apt-get build-dep libxss1"
[01:33] <gopi> hitsujiTM0: i saw already it is in repos... but i'm making small application...  for that i need the tar archive
[01:33] <gopi> dupingping86: trying now
[01:34] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: are you modifying libxss1 ?
[01:35] <gopi> no no... i'm not modifying libxss1... i'm just trying to install it from tar archive instead of using from repos
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: if you're not modifying then installing from therepo is exactly the same. You are probably looking for the dev headers: libxss-dev
[01:36] <gopi> dupingping86: its done now after build the dependency packages for it
[01:37] <dupingping86> show debian folder
[01:37] <dupingping86> exists?
[01:37] <dupingping86> enter the command : "debian/rules build" or "debian/rules build-arch"
[01:37] <dupingping86> gopi:
[01:37] <gopi> hitsujiTM0: i'm just trying to install it as offline... because my friends are not having internet  connections
[01:38] <gopi> dupingping86: i'm using ubuntu.... which folder i want to show?
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: the get the .deb from the apt-archive /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:39] <dupingping86> extract tarball and enter this folder
[01:39] <Darjusz> well
[01:39] <gopi> dupingping86: aclocal.m4    config.status  include     Makefile.am  stamp-h1
[01:39] <gopi> ChangeLog     config.sub     INSTALL     Makefile.in  xscrnsaver.pc
[01:39] <gopi> config.guess  configure      install-sh  man          xscrnsaver.pc.in
[01:39] <gopi> config.h      configure.ac   libtool     missing
[01:39] <gopi> config.h.in   COPYING        ltmain.sh   README
[01:39] <gopi> config.log    depcomp        Makefile    src
[01:39] <FloodBot1> gopi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <dupingping86> gopi: ok
[01:40] <dupingping86> ./configure
[01:40] <gopi> dupingping86: done ... thank you
[01:40] <hesiodo> hi
[01:40] <hesiodo> and bye
[01:41] <gopi> hitsujiTM0: thank you,,, done this
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: you can also pull the .deb directly from the repo http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxss/libxss1_1.2.2-1_amd64.deb
[01:46] <gopi> is there any way to get the all dependency library packages at one place?
[01:46] <Jabo> Sometimes I think it would be pretty cool to get involved in the GNU project
[01:46] <Jabo> contributing code
[01:47] <Jabo> how could one do this?
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> !away | sailor|shower
[01:48] <somsip> !contribute | Jabo
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> ubottu broken?
[01:48] <somsip> hitsujiTMO: very slow at least...
[01:48] <somsip> Jabo: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.…teToUbuntu
[01:49] <Jabo> yeah, that's Ubuntu
[01:49] <somsip> Jabo: this is ubuntu support
[01:49] <Jabo> ok
[01:52] <BrianAllred> So, I'm having issues where GUI programs won't ask for my sudo password. This is causing issues for example in Software Center. It can't authorize itself to install anything. I can run "sudo software-center" from terminal, but this seems like a temporary workaround at best. Any advice?
[01:57] <kraut1> i accidentally delete a ppa in my sources list and not sure which one i removed.  trying to install subversion and i receive this dependency error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841320/       thanks.....
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> kraut1: apt-cache policy libsvn1
[02:01]  * treeclimber likes irssi
[02:01] <kraut1> thanks hitsujiTMO  :      http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841326/
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> kraut1: that looks to be this ppa https://launchpad.net/~dirk-computer42/+archive/c42-edge
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | this is how to correctly remove ppas
[02:04] <kraut1> k
[02:04] <kraut1> thanks
[02:05] <kraut1> updating....
[02:07] <kraut1> whoa... after adding that ppa i got a pop up from   apt-get update   asking for a partial upgrade....
[02:10] <axsuul> Hi, I'm having trouble telnetting to external mailservers on port 25, i.e. telnet a.mx.mail.yahoo.com 25
[02:10] <axsuul> times out
[02:10] <axsuul> How would I diagnose this?
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> axsuul: port 25 is blocked by most ISPs
[02:11] <axsuul> oh i see
[02:12] <BetaSoul> I have an unsupported ATI card in my laptop. I however, have a supported integrated INtel gPU as well. How do I turn the ATI card off so its stops eating power?
[02:12] <somsip> axsuul: how is this an ubuntu support issue?
[02:13] <b0x> betasoul: have the same issue but with nvidia
[02:13] <b0x> try the bios
[02:13] <axsuul> somsip: thought it was a firewall issue
[02:13] <axsuul> somsip: something related to iptables maybe?
[02:14] <A3679> So for the life of me i can't seem to get my bluetooth headset working
[02:14] <A3679> It pairs and connects but i can't get any audio to come out of it
[02:14] <somsip> axsuul: turn it off, try it again. If there are still problems, it's not you. Try 587 or....463 is it?
[02:14] <kraut1> i must have removed other ppa's (ahhhhh!!!)    when i do a sudo apt-get update i am getting a partial upgrade message and some of the software i have install would be removed if i do the partial upgrade
[02:15] <somsip> *465
[02:15] <kraut1> any way i can see what the sources.list file was from a day ago ??
[02:17] <BetaSoul> b0x: Eating power?
[02:24] <FreewheelinFrank> On startup I always get 'system error' message, when I select 'report' it asks for password. is this normal?
[02:29] <OerHeks> FreewheelinFrank, sure, so "we" cannot retrieve system info without your aproval
[02:31] <qar> q
[02:31] <jcabb> Hi. 12.04(64bit).  I have two HDDs(1 SSD for OS and 1 SATA for storage)My PC crashed and grub said it couldn't find the SATA volume.  So I booted without it.  Here is a pic of what I am up against.  http://imgur.com/FCXYp2T  How can I get this volume back in action?  Thanks!
[02:37] <Arufonsu> Ahoy.
[02:37] <Arufonsu> Let's try that again.
[02:37] <Arufonsu> Hey guys.
[02:37] <jcabb> Hi
[02:39] <Arufonsu> So, I'm running Ubuntu 13.10, and I just installed util-linux 2.24.1. When I run unshare --user, I get "unshare: unshare failed: Invalid argument". When I run "strace unshare --user", I see that the unshare() system call is returning EINVAL.
[02:40] <Arufonsu> Is there any way to tell why that is?
[02:43] <Arufonsu> One possibility, I suppose, is that the kernel I have doesn't support CLONE_NEWUSER, but that doesn't seem to make sense, since the kernel is 3.11.0-12-generic, and kernel version 3.11.0 definitely has CLONE_NEWUSER. Is there a way to tell if 3.11.0-12-generic is missing it?
[02:43] <jcabb> Hi. 12.04(64bit).  I have two HDDs(1 SSD for OS and 1 SATA for storage)My PC crashed and grub said it couldn't find the SATA volume.  So I booted without it.  Here is a pic of what I am up against.  http://imgur.com/FCXYp2T  How can I get this volume back in action?  Thanks!
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> jcabb: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: man unshare    shows no option --user and requires an argument program
[02:47] <Arufonsu> hitsujiTMO: do you have an older version of util-linux than 2.24.1?
[02:47] <jcabb> hitsujiTMO, hang on. :)
[02:48] <Arufonsu> Anyway, if I run "unshare --user /bin/bash", I still get the same error.
[02:48] <jcabb> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/CxxDfysc
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: i have 2.20 from the repo. anything outside the repo is unsupported here
[02:49]  * Arufonsu nods.
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: can you pastebin: man unshare
[02:51] <Arufonsu> Yeah, figured I'd ask here because it seems like a problem with the kernel, and it's an Ubuntu kernel. But yeah, lemme paste that real quick.
[02:52] <jcabb> Arufonsu, any ideas?
[02:52] <Arufonsu> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841510/
[02:53] <Arufonsu> jcabb: nope, sorry.
[02:53] <jcabb> ok
[02:53] <thejayhallway> What's up?
[02:55] <te> Arufonsu: http://linux.die.net/man/2/unshare
[02:56] <dupingping86> hello!
[02:56] <dupingping86> how to get ubuntu drivers of all printers.
[02:56] <te> dupingping86: Install cups?
[02:57] <dupingping86> yes
[02:57] <dupingping86> te: yes
[02:57] <te> cups | dupingping86
[02:58] <dupingping86> hearing yours
[02:58] <Arufonsu> te: hm, yup. According to that, an invalid flag was specified.
[02:58] <te> !cups | dupingping86
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: ok. that does in fact seem to be the correct usage. It could be the case that the ubuntu kernel is compiled without a necessary param.
[02:59] <dupingping86> te: not cups?
[02:59] <mani2399> exit
[02:59] <texla> dupingping86, what printer
[02:59] <te> dupingping86: Not sure what your question is....
[02:59] <Arufonsu> hitsujiTMO: yeah, that would make sense. Do you know how I might be able to find out whether my kernel supports this flag?
[03:00] <te> dupingping86: What exactly are you trying to do?  Configure a printer?
[03:00] <te> dupingping86: firefox localhost:631
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: i'm unsure to be honest. I don't play with such low level stuff too often
[03:02] <Arufonsu> hitsujiTMO: *nod* Thanks for your help.
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: you could try installing a minline kernel
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> mainline*
[03:03] <Arufonsu> Yeah, that's an idea.
[03:07] <Braden> Hello.  If I have ssh in a root jail, is there a way to make it so that if the user who logs in via the jail can execute a script that will affect something outside of the jail?
[03:07] <Braden> I want them to be able to restart a process, but not browse the whole file system
[03:08] <hamilcar> d:)
[03:08] <te> Braden: "root jail"?
[03:08] <Braden`> Well, a jail for ssh
[03:09] <Braden`> They don't have root exactly
[03:09] <te> Braden`: It all depends on how you write the script.
[03:09] <te> Braden`: and who the user is.
[03:09] <Braden`> te:  How would I write the script so that only it can break the jail.
[03:10] <Braden`> The user is Bob
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[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> Braden`: while this may not be the best method, you could monitor a fifo in the jail and restart the process upon a psecific message in the fifo
[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> s/psecific/specific
[03:12] <Arufonsu> Wait, could the user in the jail just send a signal to the process directly?
[03:14] <Arufonsu> All right, where does the kernel source go when I apt-get source it...
[03:15] <Arufonsu> In the current directory?
[03:15] <OerHeks> Arufonsu, usually in /usr/src
[03:16] <Arufonsu> I mean, I definitely see a directory called linux-3.11.0 in the current directory, and I definitely wouldn't normally expect it to be there.
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: apt-get source goes to pwd. apt-get install linux-source goes to /usr/src
[03:16] <Arufonsu> hitsujiTMO: *nod*
[03:17] <fer755> Arufonsu : find / | grep kernel
[03:17] <Arufonsu> Woulda been nice if I'd known that before I installed the Linux source into some random directory.
[03:17] <nick_h> how is it possible that `date` says the hour is 22, but the latest line in /var/log/syslog says the hour is 23?
[03:17] <Arufonsu> Funny enough, the current directory was another copy of the Linux source. So now I have a source tree inside another source tree.
[03:17] <nick_h> Jan 29 23:23:26 app01 rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock lost 17 messages from pid 11516 due to rate-limiting
[03:17] <nick_h> Wed Jan 29 22:23:39 EST 2014
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: sourception
[03:18] <Arufonsu> "sudo rm -r linux*" is kind of a scary-looking command.
[03:19] <Arufonsu> Oh, look at this: "Picking 'linux' as source package instead of 'linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic'" Is that going to give me the right thing?
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: yup
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: many packages are compile from the same collective source
[03:22] <Arufonsu> Whelp, the source I just downloaded clearly shows CLONE_NEWUSER as a valid flag.
[03:22] <Arufonsu> I don't suppose it's possible that CLONE_NEWUSER has a different value between my kernel and util-linux?
[03:23] <Tom1> hello
[03:25] <Arufonsu> Ahhhh, here's something.
[03:26] <Arufonsu> static inline int unshare_userns(unsigned long unshare_flags, struct cred **new_cred) { if (unshare_flags & CLONE_NEWUSER) return -EINVAL; return 0; }
[03:26] <Arufonsu> Like, yup. That'll do it.
[03:27] <Arufonsu> But, uh, that definition is in the mainline kernel's user_namespace.h as well. How does that not break user namespaces in the mainline kernel?
[03:31] <Arufonsu> I guess it must be because fork.c doesn't include user_namespace.h.
[03:32] <tacomaster> I am having a really strange issue with my internet. I have an intel centrino 1030n and it was working fine in ubuntu before and my most recent os debain stable it actually was alot faster than the connection i got with ubuntu, but i missed the gaming and better graphic performance in ubuntu. I have tested with a few other machines and it is not the internet, but when i say try to ping a server i get the ip address really fast but when
[03:35] <reindeer> Hey,  just came to check if wikipedia.org is "down" for someone else? I checked few "down-or-not" websites and they say its just me, which i do belive, but traceroute6 says network unreachable and firefox says the IP is banned..lol , this is in Finland..
[03:35] <onizu> hi
[03:36] <Arufonsu> reindeer: fi.wikipedia.org is up for me.
[03:36] <onizu> how can i install this on 13.10 : http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/owncloud-client
[03:36] <onizu> ?
[03:36] <Arufonsu> onizu: have you tried sudo apt-get install owncloud-client?
[03:37] <reindeer> Arufonsu: hmm well thats odd.. maybe its justmy ISP
[03:37] <onizu> yeah, that installs a lower version (1.4. ) i want 1.5
[03:37] <sadpestilence> hi
[03:37] <onizu> which is available in trusty
[03:37] <sadpestilence> someone can helpme to do a nat connection to gain internet on my other pc?
[03:38] <K`zan> Anyone know what would cause / how to fix this when trying to attach a file in Firefox?  No luck at all from google.  Issue is: The specified folder does not exist or was not readable. - OK that and you get the dialog in kfile but it apparently is broken at that point, any selected file never gets passed back to Firefox.  Any thoughts very much appreciated!!
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: http://software.opensuse.org/download/package?project=isv:ownCloud:desktop&package=owncloud-client
[03:39] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, that didn't work for me. I got some error at the end..
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: what was the error?
[03:40] <onizu> hmm, don't remember. i can retry if you want
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: do
[03:40] <onizu> but wouldn't it be better to use ubuntu's repository that opensuse's ?
[03:40] <glitsj16> K`zan: 'attach a file in Firefox' .. can you elaborate on what you mean exactly?
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: no, since the version you want is not in the repo.
[03:41] <onizu> it says on the page that it is 1.5
[03:41] <onizu> Source Package: owncloud-client (1.5.0+dfsg-4ubuntu1) [universe]
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: thats the trust repo. different repo. thats early beta
[03:42] <onizu> yeah
[03:42] <onizu> ok, i'm going to retry the opensuse one
[03:42] <dupingping86> please help me
[03:42] <rww> !info owncloud-client
[03:44] <Arufonsu> Aha, I think I've totally found the solution to everything. Yeah, the Ubuntu kernel has user namespaces disabled by default. It also has XFS support enabled by default. In order for user namespaces to be enabled, XFS support must *not* be enabled.
[03:44] <Arufonsu> So I'll just change this, recompile, reinstall...
[03:44] <onizu> 1.3 ... :(
[03:48] <somsip> dupingping86: what is your problem now?
[03:49] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, it installed this time..
[03:49] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, but it doesn't run when i try: owncloud-cloud
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Onia
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> o.O
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> ownlcloud-client maybe?
[03:50] <onizu> oh sorry, that's what i tried, owncloud-client
[03:50] <onizu> sudo apt-get install owncloud-client
[03:50] <onizu> oops
[03:50] <onizu> owncloud-client: command not found
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: and it's not in the dash?
[03:51] <onizu> oh, it is there
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: the clound binary may just be under a different name
[03:52] <onizu> hmm..
[03:53] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, do you use owncloud-client?
[03:53] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: i used to. not atm.
[03:53] <onizu> ok
[03:54] <onizu> it doesn't show me which file it is synchronising at the moment
[03:57] <tacomaster> When you go to sites like pandora, youtube, and a few other's and it asks you if you want to install a plugin i guess for faster access and it makes a tile in the hud, what is this really doing? Its not just a link to a website is it does it serve a real purpose to install?
[03:58] <onizu> i gotta go..
[04:07] <aneks> does anyone know if Windows 7 home basic can share files within a home network? I can see the Windows 7 home basic PC on my  Ubuntu machine but can't access it, yet I can access my Ubuntu share from my Windows 7 PC?
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> aneks: make sure the everybody/everyone or what ever it's called group is added to the permissions of the share
[04:09] <Tex_Nick> 13.10 gnome fallback/flashback de ... firefox looses it's window title bar a few times a day ... only happened since 13.10 ... i can't seem to identify what's causing it, not reproducible ... is it a common problem ? if not i'll ask in #firefox ?
[04:09] <nitk> what is this error....arpspoof: libnet_init(): UID or EUID of 0 required
[04:10] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, Have you been tweaking compiz?
[04:10] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, Er, have you addded compiz to the fallback might be a better question?
[04:10] <SchrodingersScat> nitk: isn't 0 == root?
[04:10] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: only one compiz tweak ... i turned the Grid option off
[04:11] <rww> SchrodingersScat: yes
[04:11] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: yes i've added the ccsm
[04:11] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, This is in the fallback correct, I believe the fallback does not use compiz natively, not sure what the window manager is there.
[04:12] <nitk> SchrodingersScat, sorry what are u saying
[04:12] <SchrodingersScat> nitk: it might want a sudo in front of that? that's my first guess.
[04:13] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: yeah i'm using fallback, however i think it's also now called flashback ?
[04:13] <EnriqueFabuloso> Hello everyone, I have a question about ubuntu partition recovery. Where is the best channel to ask my question?
[04:13] <nitk> SchrodingersScat, ok thank u
[04:14] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, Yes the name has changed not sure what it is in 13.10, in the gnome shell the window manager is mutter, I would find out what it is stock for that fallback, I suspect adding compiz may be the root of your issue, just a guess though.
[04:15] <EnriqueFabuloso> EnriqueFabuloso is not my real name by the way.
[04:16] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, When I used unity and was a full time tweak with the cube, and wobbly windows there was a window header issue, but this is a while back.
[04:17] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: ok compiz has been the source of many such problems in the past ... hey thanks for the input there ... i'll approach the problem from that perspective then
[04:17] <johnboy> ok im brand new at this
[04:17] <johnboy> have now clue how all this works
[04:19] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, The gnome shell has a restart for the de 'alt-f2-r' it might work in the fallback, or they may be another, best of luck. ;)
[04:19] <Beldar> there*
[04:19] <whitenoise> hey guys, are there certain packages for adding symbols back into PHP and/or Apache binaries so we can gdb coredumps from Apache using mod_php...the regular packages seem to have the symbols stripped out of the binaries.
[04:20] <jeffrey_f> EnriqueFabuloso: Post the problem, what you know and/or have done so far
[04:20] <whitenoise> which makes me unable to use gdb unless I want to recompile both from source.
[04:20] <johnboy> if anyone has the time and is willing to work with me i'm trying to get used to the linux system just need help learning this stuff
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | johnboy
[04:21] <EnriqueFabuloso> I have dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 13.10 and they are on separate partitions and I have a third partition called 'Storage'. Storage won't mount in windows or ubuntu.
[04:21] <whitenoise> what filesystem type is it?
[04:21] <EnriqueFabuloso> n tfs
[04:21] <Beldar> johnboy, It takes awhile, it did me anyway, open source is where I started my computer use, ask questions as needed, the ubuntu forums is an excellent source as well as askubuntu.
[04:21] <EnriqueFabuloso> ntfs
[04:21] <johnboy> hitsujiTMO thank u
[04:22] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: what errror do you get when you try to mount it?
[04:22] <EnriqueFabuloso> Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /media/usernan/Storage: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda4" "/media/usernan/Storage"' exited with non-zero exit status 18: Failed to open ntfs attribute: No such file or directory
[04:22] <EnriqueFabuloso> Failed to load $MFT: No such file or directory
[04:22] <EnriqueFabuloso> Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': No such file or directory
[04:22] <whitenoise> looks like the ntfs isn't your problem.
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: no $MFT is pretty bad.
[04:23] <EnriqueFabuloso> lol
[04:23] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: as an afterthought ... all i have to do to restore the window title bar is, click on it's tab in the bottom panel to minimize it ... then click on it's tab again to maximize it ... the title bar is restored when i maximize it ... like it just needed to be redrawn
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso> i ran gdisk and this is the output
[04:24] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, Heh, sounds like voodoo.
[04:24] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: hey thanks for your input !!!
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso> GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.7
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso> Type device filename, or press <Enter> to exit: /dev/sda4
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso> Partition table scan:
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso>   MBR: MBR only
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso>   BSD: not present
[04:24] <FloodBot1> EnriqueFabuloso: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso>   APM: not present
[04:24] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, No problem.
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: gdisk doesn't even look at the partition
[04:25] <Beldar> !pastebin | EnriqueFabuloso
[04:25] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Quit flooding.
[04:25] <whitenoise> EnriqueFabuloso: use pastie/pastebin/something...also, try a: sudo fdisk -l and show the output of that.
[04:25] <johnboy> ok Beldar thanks yeah i tired it once on redhat but couldnt figure it out but i started with windows and learned alot on their but i always had an intrest in linux from working in dos a little but still formatting to this now
[04:25] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: you should create an image of the partition and work on that. have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[04:25] <johnboy> its a whole new world in here
[04:25] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Does the mount point really exist?
[04:26] <whitenoise> anyone for Ubuntu binaries that have symbols still compiled in in PHP/Apache? or am I out of luck and would have to compile from source?
[04:26] <subhojit777> There is a remote server (VPN), yesterday I was configuring ports and did some mistake. Today I am trying to do ssh login to remote server and it says `connection timed out`. I am beginner in networking, and I was trying things. Is there any way I can login other than ssh. I am stuck now. Please help
[04:26] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Do you have an entry in fstab?
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: from the windows side of things, i've had good results from Active@ Partition Recovery
[04:27] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841824/
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: its clearly a corrupt filesystem
[04:30] <EnriqueFabuloso> vfw: How do I check to see if the mount point exists?
[04:30] <whitenoise> you just did verify that /dev/sda4 exists.
[04:30] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: ls
[04:30] <whitenoise> with your paste
[04:30] <whitenoise> so yeah, there's just something wrong where your filesystem can't see it, looks like.
[04:31] <vfw> whitenoise: That's not the mount point, (it's the divice)
[04:31] <EnriqueFabuloso> vfw: Can you clarify 'entry in fstab'?
[04:31] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO: $40 bucks is a lot of money...
[04:32] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Looks as if you are using /media/usernan/Storage as a mount point?  See if it exists...
[04:32] <EnriqueFabuloso> vfw: How do I do that?
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: check the first link i gave for free tools within linux.
[04:32] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Show us what you are doing, pastebin it.
[04:33] <whitenoise> sudo mkdir -p /media/usernan/Storage && mount /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage -t ntfs
[04:33] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure what he's doing, (or trying to do).
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: the error was: Failed to load $MFT: No such file or directory          <- cannot read master file table      clearly an issue with the file system itself
[04:33] <whitenoise> ^ will create it if it doesn't exist then try to mount it
[04:33] <whitenoise> hitsujiTMO: I think you are correct as well, I guess he's just trying to eliminate everything else
[04:35] <EnriqueFabuloso> mount: only root can do that
[04:35] <whitenoise> slap a sudo in front of it
[04:35] <whitenoise> sudo X && sudo Y
[04:35] <EnriqueFabuloso> I did
[04:36] <EnriqueFabuloso> sudo mkdir -p /media/usernan/Storage && mount /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage -t ntfs
[04:36] <Random832> xdg-open does not respect my browser setting in lubuntu
[04:36] <Random832> and xdg-settings seems generally clueless about how to set it
[04:36] <whitenoise> yeah, put another sudo after the &&
[04:36] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: So, "/media/usernan/Storage" was just hypothetical?
[04:37] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage -t ntfs | pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[04:37] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841848/
[04:38] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: mount /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage -t ntfs | pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: if it was an issue with the mount point the error would have been: mount: mount point /media/usernan/Storage does not exist
[04:38] <jeffrey_f> If I am not mistaken, the permissions on the folder that will be mounted over needs to be correct or access will be limited
[04:38] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841851/
[04:39] <whitenoise> EnriqueFabuloso: were you resizing the partitions or anything like that where you could have potentially messed up some data?
[04:40] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841862/
[04:41] <jeffrey_f> put    sudo    at the beginning of the command
[04:41] <EnriqueFabuloso> No resizing just transferring data
[04:41] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: You are correct, It appears to be filesystem error.
[04:41] <Ben64> EnriqueFabuloso: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage
[04:42] <whitenoise> Ben64: that has already been done
[04:42] <Ben64> a similar thing has been done, yes
[04:42] <EnriqueFabuloso> Ben64:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841868/
[04:43] <Ben64> EnriqueFabuloso: ls -l /dev/sda4
[04:43] <EnriqueFabuloso> Ben64:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841871/
[04:44] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO: How do I fix the file system?
[04:44] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: hitsujiTMO "exFAT"
[04:45] <Ben64> EnriqueFabuloso: use windows
[04:45] <whitenoise> here's a thread concerning this:
[04:45] <whitenoise> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1339017
[04:45] <whitenoise> where someone damaged an NTFS partition
[04:46] <whitenoise> also this
[04:46] <whitenoise> http://askubuntu.com/questions/339708/unable-to-mount-windows-partition-after-resize
[04:46] <whitenoise> lots of googling for cannot find $MFT
[04:47] <EnriqueFabuloso> I booted to windows right clicked the partition and trued to scan for errors but it returned and error.
[04:47] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: can you start with: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[04:48] <EnriqueFabuloso> The $MFT is the Master File Table metafile for an NTFS file system. It keeps a record of all the files in the volume.
[04:49] <Ben64> EnriqueFabuloso: you should ask in ##windows about repairing that partition
[04:50] <jeffrey_f> Repairing windows volume may make Ubuntu unbootable.  Windows does not play well with any other OS's on dual boot for some reason
[04:50] <hypercube32> people still use dual boot...?  why?
[04:51] <hypercube32> use virtualization already damn
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> !behelpful | hypercube32
[04:51] <EnriqueFabuloso> Is virtualization better?
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: can you: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[04:51] <EnriqueFabuloso> I don't want this problem again
[04:51] <hypercube32> EnriqueFabuloso, it has its uses
[04:52] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO:Iran the command but I don't know what it does?
[04:52] <hypercube32> EnriqueFabuloso, what most people that i know do now, is use linux as the base system of their computer, and run windows in a virtual machine
[04:52] <hypercube32> dual boot is very difficult these days in comparison
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: can you paste the url it generates here please
[04:53] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: want soo see if there's issues with the drive itself
[04:53] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841889/
[04:53] <hitsujiTMO> s/soo/to
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: looks ok at least
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: and: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[04:55] <miguelangello> im having problems trying to open some websites and doing searches on google
[04:56] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: http://askubuntu.com/questions/370398/how-to-get-exfat-working-in-ubuntu-13-10
[04:57] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841928/
[04:57] <miguelangello> im having problems trying to open some websites and doing searches on google  on ubuntu 12.05 LTS
[04:57] <vfw> miguelangello: Can you be more specific?
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: ok, the hdd itself looks fine at least
[04:58] <abadr> I just brought up a new Ubuntu VM. Trying to `apt-get update`, but it gets stuck trying to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com. I have no problem pinging that host from the same VM. What could be wrong?
[04:59] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: May be that he needs to install exfat support?
[04:59] <miguelangello> vfw,  ok well the problem is that if i try to do a search on google the page keeps loading and dont answer i dont have this problem on windows
[04:59] <vfw> miguelangello: What nameserver are you using?
[05:00] <miguelangello> vfw,  what do u mean with nameserver ?
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: the file system itself is ntfs
[05:00] <miguelangello> vfw,  dns ?
[05:00] <vfw> miguelangello: Check your network configuration.
[05:00] <vfw> miguelangello: Yes
[05:00] <miguelangello> i have google dns
[05:00] <miguelangello> 8.8.8.8
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: ntfs-3g wouldn't have tried to mount it as it would have had the wrong signature if it was exfat
[05:01] <vfw> miguelangello: host av.com | pastebinit
[05:01] <fmedina> hello
[05:01] <fmedina> how do I know how long since my linux laptop woke up from suspend?
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: do you have a drive with more than 100gb free space?
[05:02] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: Well, fdisk reports "HPFS/NTFS/exFAT"
[05:02] <miguelangello> vfw,  wait insalling pastebinit
[05:02] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO:yes I have an external hd usb
[05:03] <miguelangello> vfw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841942/
[05:03] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: yes. thats because the partition is of type 7: which is used for those partitions
[05:03] <K`zan> glitsj16: Sorry for delay, putting my patient to bed.  On a particular forum, one has the option of attaching a file, click on "browse" button, the message "The specified folder does not exist or was not readable." appears.  Click "OK" and the "File upload" dialog appears and you can select a file, Click "open", dialog closes, but file never shows up in the browser field for the file name selected.
[05:03] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: fdisk itself doesn't read the partition. just looks at the table
[05:05] <vfw> miguelangello: Well, looks like you are resolving domain names all right. Hummm.... not sure
[05:05] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: best thing to do is to image the drive to a file then work on recover on that file, or a copy of it. that way more damage won't be caused and will maximise your chances of recovery
[05:05] <K`zan> glitsj16: Only thing I found using google to search, was from 2005 and no help at all.
[05:05] <miguelangello> vfw,  i know that isnt the problem like i said pages keep loading and sometimes load good
[05:05] <vfw> miguelangello: What other problems do you have?  Any other websites you are unable to go to?
[05:06] <miguelangello> vfw,  i cant log into hotmail
[05:06] <glitsj16> K`zan: are you seeing this oddity on firefox?
[05:06] <vfw> miguelangello: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf #Send url
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> miguelangello: have you setup a proxy within the browser?
[05:07] <vfw> miguelangello: Yea, look at firefox preferences for proxy setting.
[05:07] <miguelangello> vfw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841967/
[05:07] <K`zan> glitsj16: Yes, that is the only place it has shown up.  Found nothing in FF config that would affect it...
[05:08] <vfw> miguelangello: I see nameserver 127.0.0.1  (not 8.8.8.8)
[05:09] <glitsj16> K`zan: i don't know if it would make a difference, but in about:config there's a key called "ui.allow_platform_file_picker", try setting that to true
[05:09] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO:okay I'll check out the links and try work it out thanks
[05:09] <EnriqueFabuloso> thanks everyone
[05:09] <K`zan> glitsj16: Will give that a go, thank you Sir!
[05:10] <Fishscene> Is anyone else having issues with the ubuntu one client on Windows 8.1?
[05:11] <Fishscene> I get "sorry, an error has occurred..." Details: TypeError Required argument 'Type' (pos 2) not found
[05:12] <K`zan> glitsj16: It was set to true.  Just for jollies, set it to false and it now works :-).
[05:12] <glitsj16> :)
[05:13] <K`zan> glitsj16: LOL, never a dull moment in this busines :-) :-) :-), Much appreciated Sir, you got me where I needed to be!  Thanks!!!!!!!
[05:14] <glitsj16> K`zan: very welcome, enjoy attaching files again
[05:14] <josh____> hey... I have an issue now, I just installed 13.04 server since 13.10 doesn't install with a USB keyboard. I ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y , and now my keyboard input is really messed up. what i see on screen isn't what I typed. I have to hold down a key to get a character to appear once on screen, but then the server sees it as some weird mashup of a few letters I typed. Working on console right now (no SSH yet)
[05:15] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | josh____
[05:15] <K`zan> glitsj16: Wilco Sir, will certainly simplify a number of things!
[05:15] <josh____> Riight. Well shit. I'm stuck now.
[05:15] <Beldar> josh____, Please be careful with language here. ;)
[05:15] <josh____> can't install a later version with USB KB because someone left out a driver. great.
[05:16] <miguelangello> vfw,  if i do ping to www.google.com from terminal it resolves
[05:16] <josh____> sorry, I'm just upset that I reformatted and now can't do anything.
[05:16] <Beldar> josh____, It happens, no biggie.
[05:16] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: can you boot the desktop iso and i can talk you thru a debootstrap install
[05:16] <IdleOne> josh____: follow the eolupgrade link the bot gave you
[05:17] <glitsj16> K`zan: i had to do the opposite thing years ago in firefox (still using that profile heh) .. so i think it is actually the native setup that confuses things i believe, but i'm not familiar with kfile
[05:17] <josh____> sure... I'll download the ISO real quick on my other computer (mac doesn't have optical drive now...)
[05:19] <josh____> Beldar: to clarify, you want me to download the 13.10 desktop image?
[05:19] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: that was me, but yes the desktop 13.10
[05:19] <vfw> miguelangello: Try editing /etc/resolv.conf and add nameserver 8.8.8.8
[05:19] <josh____> okay.
[05:20] <josh____> I just looked at the first name I saw that tagged me.
[05:20] <somsip> miguelangello: just check that /etc/resolv.conf doesn't have that warning at the top:  DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[05:21] <miguelangello> vfw,  how could i do it?
[05:24] <vfw> gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf  and add the line to the end of the file, (on a line by itslef nameserver 8.8.8.8)
[05:24] <golfinho_333> Hello. : ) Anyone is having troubles in apache php?
[05:24] <somsip> golfinho_333: what's the real issue?
[05:26] <golfinho_333> somsip well... i install but... the phpinfo and other php commands are only working in /var/www when i use localhost/~username it dont execute the phpinfo and other php commands
[05:26] <somsip> golfinho_333: you understand that doesn't work out as standard. You have to setup other things. Have you dont that?
[05:26] <Beldar> josh____, I suggested nothing, I have not followed your issues.
[05:26] <vfw> miguelangello: Let us know if that makes a difference...
[05:27] <golfinho_333> somsip what other things i need to configure i follow the tuturials...  the localhost/~username is working for apache but not to php... only in /var/www is working php
[05:29] <somsip> golfinho_333: possible solutions: http://is.gd/qW7zmD http://is.gd/xxSqA5 http://is.gd/ooEK2e
[05:29] <josh____> Beldar: right, I should've tagged someone else but only saw your name on screen ;)
[05:30] <miguelangello> vfw,  it is the same hotmail keeps loading after give email and password
[05:30] <Beldar> josh____, Heh, and after I posted I saw that hitsujiTMO cleared that up, I will say they are one of the better helpers all around.
[05:30] <golfinho_333> s0msip thanks gona try... it never happens beford... since i use ubuntu strange
[05:30] <vfw> golfinho_333: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Checking_Apache_2_installation
[05:30] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: haven't done this (or had to, rather) before. what exactly does debootstrapping the install do?
[05:31] <vfw> miguelangello: run firefox from terminal and watch for errors.
[05:31] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: consider it a manual install. no "installer" to guide you thru it
[05:31] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: ty :P
[05:32] <mojtaba> Hi, My laptop just suddenly shutdown and now I can not login. Does anybody know what should I do?
[05:32] <mojtaba> Please help
[05:33] <vfw> mojtaba: What were you doing when it shut down?
[05:33] <Beldar> mojtaba, Over heating?
[05:33] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: oh lovely... Popping the disk in right now, and as a note, it seems like the power button press is not causing a halt like it did before my format.
[05:33] <mojtaba> vfw: Beldar: Yes
[05:33] <golfinho_333> vfw thanks : )
[05:34] <Beldar> mojtaba, Okay, have you tried to remedy this so far?
[05:34] <mojtaba> Beldar: What should I do? My HDD goes bad because of this and I am going to change it, but I am not sure, if the new disk be safe. :(
[05:35] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: Where were you using the laptop before it shutdown?
[05:35] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: What do you mean? The fan was not blocked.
[05:36] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: I ask, using on bedding et al?
[05:36] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: No, on the table.
[05:36] <Beldar> mojtaba, I bought a gaming cooling pad for my laptop in-spite of it not really getting to hot, and made sure the lm-sensors where accurate, and blew out the fans. If you do not find a fix your asking for continued trouble really.
[05:36] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: got the disk in and booted
[05:37] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. first question. uefi or mbr install?
[05:37] <mojtaba> Beldar: I have an extra fan, but it is not enough some times.
[05:37] <josh____> MBR
[05:37] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do now?
[05:37] <mojtaba> I can login to tty1, but not in GUI
[05:38] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it's an old desktop repurposed :). MBR.
[05:38] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. pop open the terminal and: sudo apt-get install debootstrap pastebinit
[05:38] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: are you in a cold climate? bring it outside to cool down.  should only take a few minutes.  It should turn back on once cooled.  Check to see if the fan is running
[05:38] <Beldar> mojtaba, A fan may not, I noticed the gaming pad cooler was more robust is all, my computer runs 10 degrees Fahrenheit at the least cooler.
[05:39] <Beldar> a=any*
[05:39] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: The fan is running. I waited for it to cool down.
[05:39] <mojtaba> What should I do now to be able to log in back again?
[05:39] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: errrr... just realized I don't have a mouse connected.....
[05:39] <mojtaba> I am using another computer to find the answer to this problem.
[05:39] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: got canned air?  blow out the vents
[05:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ctrl + alt + t to open the terminal :P
[05:40] <artie_> mojtaba I just had the same problem in my laptop, a Dell. Temp indicators said it was running very hot. I cleaned the input screen, but no difference. Finally, I had to take it apart and totally remove the heatsink for the cpu. It' was plugged solid with dust.
[05:40] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I will fix the heat issue, the problem is now I can NOT login.
[05:40] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba:  what error are you getting (if any)
[05:40] <mojtaba> artie_:I have Dell too
[05:40] <Beldar> mojtaba, Hard shutdowns can brick your OS, just a heads up.
[05:40] <artie_> mojtaba after the clean out, it ran 40 degrees cooler!!!!
[05:41] <vfw> !password | mojtaba
[05:41] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:after entering the password, it just shows the welcome screen with no error and asking again for password!
[05:41] <xdreaper15> olah
[05:41] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: not if you're trapped in the Welcome window
[05:41] <xdreaper15> hola
[05:41] <mojtaba> artie_: The disassembly is a real headache.
[05:41] <xdreaper15> wtev
[05:42] <xdreaper15> sup
[05:42] <vfw> mojtaba: As hitsujiTMO suggests, try Ctrl-Alt-F6  and try logging in from a console screen.
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ahh
[05:42] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: does it go right back to login screen?
[05:42] <mojtaba> vfw: I can login via tty1, but I can not login via GUI
[05:42] <xdreaper15> i have a question...has anybody had any success in getting League of Legends to work in ubuntu?
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: tab to the relevent buttons
[05:42] <josh____> vfw: thanks... on console now
[05:42] <Beldar> xdreaper15, The channel does not support polling.
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo apt-get install debootstrap pastebinit
[05:43] <mojtaba> vfw: What should I do after login to tty6?
[05:43] <artie_> mojtaba Yes, it is not easy to take it apart....my laptop was an older model and is considerably easier to get to the inside of it.....my daughters new Dell laptop is almost impossible to take apart!!! NOT GOOD.
[05:43] <mojtaba> hitsujiTMO: What should I do after login to tty6? I can not login to GUI
[05:43] <vfw> mojtaba: If you have trouble loging in, it will be a problem with credentials
[05:43] <golfinho_333> vfw nathing that dont work...
[05:43] <Beldar> xdreaper15, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=League+of+Legends
[05:44] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: err, no idea. i'm helping someone else atm
[05:44] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba:  rm /home/YourUserID/.ICEauthority  then try to log back in
[05:44] <mojtaba> vfw: what should I do then?
[05:44] <xdreaper15> ahh beldar you rock
[05:44] <xdreaper15> thanks a ton
[05:44] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:I will try that.
[05:44] <Beldar> xdreaper15, No problem, now you have another resource. ;)
[05:44] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: dpkg returned 1, /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[05:45] <xdreaper15> sorry to be a nuisance >.<
[05:45] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: give it a second and try again
[05:45] <Beldar> no biggie
[05:45] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:Can I rename that?
[05:45] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: same output
[05:46] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: you can if you want.
[05:46] <artie_> mojtaba I sincerely hope you don't have a newer Dell.....and that you don't have to take it apart.....but, if you do have to do it, be sure to get some decent quality heatsink compound for it. Arctic Silver is pretty hard to beat::>
[05:46] <vfw> golfinho_333: What error are you getting?
[05:47] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:It says, can not do that, read only file system
[05:47] <vfw> mojtaba: sudo
[05:47] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: sudo?
[05:47] <golfinho_333> vfw no error... php5 is enabled everything is working... the problem is that the phpinfo is only working in /var/www and not in /localhost/~username
[05:47] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. try once more again
[05:47] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: even with sudo -s
[05:48] <vfw> golfinho_333: http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/06/monitoring-system-resources-on-ubuntu-server-with-phpsysinfo.html
[05:48] <nearst> hello good people
[05:48] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: same again...
[05:48] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:48] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: delete it.  It gets created if it isn't there.  Happened to me a few times and deleting it had no ill-effects
[05:48] <golfinho_333> vfw thanks :)
[05:49] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:ok, let me do that
[05:49] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:it does not allow me to remove it. same error message!
[05:50] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: debconf-c root 4uW REG 0,16 137869 10146 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:50] <artie_> I have a problem with usb 3 flash drives.....I bought 3 different models locally, but none of them accept an ext3 or ext4 format......do all usb 3 flash drives limit the formatting that can be done externally???? All of them had fat32 formatting when I bought them.
[05:50] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:even I can not change its permission to 777
[05:50] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I am root at the moment
[05:50] <mojtaba> That is very odd!!
[05:50] <vfw> mojtaba: df
[05:51] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: also noted that it may be incomplete due to it being a temp fs
[05:51] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: sudo enter-chroot rm /home/MYUSERNAME/.ICEauthority
[05:51] <mojtaba> what is chroot?
[05:51] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I type whoami, and it says, root
[05:51] <mojtaba> then rm ./.ICEauthority
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: can you try jump back to tty7 and see if you can tab to "try ubuntu"
[05:52] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: It says, read only
[05:52] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: i'm wondering if its that menu is locking the file
[05:52] <mojtaba> vfw: what is df?
[05:52] <vfw> mojtaba: What is the user name?
[05:52] <mojtaba> root
[05:52] <vfw> mojtaba: no it's not.  What is your user name?
[05:52] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: didn't know about the changing tty shortcut. back to desktop now
[05:52] <mojtaba> whoami > root
[05:52] <mojtaba> mojtaba
[05:52] <vfw> mojtaba: ls /home
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. try open a terminal there with: ctrl + alt + t
[05:53] <vfw> mojtaba: What directories are in /home/ ?
[05:53] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[05:53] <mojtaba> vfw: shoot, my bad.
[05:53] <mojtaba> let me check that
[05:53] <vfw> mojtaba: What user is having trouble logging in?
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> josh____:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit debootstrap
[05:53] <vfw> mojtaba: (If you do not know your user name, that is the problem.)
[05:54] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: exit from root
[05:54] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: no wall of errors, looks good
[05:54] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: just a moment.
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit
[05:54] <vfw> mojtaba: ls /home/   #Tell us what it says.
[05:55] <vfw> mojtaba: ls /home/ | pastebinit #Send URL
[05:55] <mojtaba> I just cd /home/mojtaba
[05:55] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842125/
[05:55] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: vfw: after cd /home/mojtaba && rm .ICEauthority, same error message
[05:55] <vfw> mojtaba: Type exit, hit enter.  Login as mojtaba
[05:55] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: so sda1 was / and sda5 is /home ?
[05:56] <mojtaba> vfw: I did that
[05:56] <mojtaba> vfw: what next?
[05:56] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: should be, no other OSes on the drive.
[05:56] <vfw> So you are able to login ok as mojtaba ?
[05:56] <mojtaba> vfw: ye
[05:56] <mojtaba> s
[05:56] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ahh waid you had /dev/sda1 as /boot ?
[05:57] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: what layout do you want or does it matter?
[05:57] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it's the ubuntu encrypted LVM default
[05:57] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: are you sure you want encrypted for a server?
[05:57] <vfw> mojtaba: ls -l .ICEauthority  #Tell us what it says.
[05:57] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ehhh, true... I'll save that for my other box.
[05:58] <vfw> mojtaba: ls -l ~/.ICEauthority  #Tell us what it says.
[05:58] <mojtaba> vfw: -rw------- 1 mojtaba mojtaba
[05:58] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: laptops generally what you need encrypted for. bit odd for a stationary device. it's not like the NSA are going to break into your home and take your hdd right?
[05:58] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[05:59] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: you never know... ;). anyways...
[05:59] <vfw> mojtaba: rm ~/.ICEauthority
[05:59] <golfinho_333> vfw it looks this dont work...
[05:59] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. we'll simply this a bit so: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[06:00] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: command
[06:00] <mojtaba> vfw: golfinho_333: I can not remove it. it says: read-only file system
[06:00] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: use that to delete the partitions. d = delete. create a new partition spanning the full drive if you don't want a seperate /home
[06:01] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: try rebooting
[06:01] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: ok
[06:01] <golfinho_333> mojtaba what you can not remove?
[06:01] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: not sure why it mounted as readonly
[06:01] <mojtaba> should I boot in safe mode?
[06:01] <vfw> ls -ld /home/mjtaba
[06:01] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: actually. sorry wait.
[06:02] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: should I boot in recovery mode?
[06:02] <vfw> mojtaba: ls -ld /home/mjtaba  #Tell us what that says
[06:02] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: once you delete the partitions. first create your swap. how big do you want the swap?
[06:02] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: partitions deleted... 1G maybe?
[06:02] <mojtaba> vfw: I just reboot. please wait
[06:02] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: how much ram do you have?
[06:02] <vfw> mojtaba: (Show us)
[06:03] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: should I boot in recovery mode?
[06:03] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: 1GB. For apache/mysql/php and potentially other services like mail, nfs later
[06:03] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: answer vfw first
[06:03] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:I can not, because now the laptop is restarted. You told me to do that.
[06:04] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: I have a 250GB hard drive in it, so not too constrained.
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup 1gb swap should be enough
[06:04] <vfw> mojtaba: Login and do it.
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: create a partition with n
[06:04] <mojtaba> vfw
[06:04] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: n done
[06:04] <mojtaba> vfw: ok
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: starting 2048
[06:04] <jirido> Hi again . I have a litle problem again as expected.. Thunderbird does'nt get windowframes. If i open a window to write a letter .. It gets frames.. But not the main window. it is the only program that has this problem. How could i get hold of what's faulty? Im on lubuntu 12.04 and have compiz metacity and a gtk2 theme..
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ending/size: +2097152
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: type 82
[06:05] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: waaait... just a sec. I'm back at the p/e output? is it primary?
[06:05] <Beldar> jirido, Was the desktop fully usable till you tweaked it?
[06:05] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: p sorry
[06:05] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: my laptop has been shutdown several times and this causes the HDD to get some bad sectors; I think that is the problem now. (I am going to change the HDD next week.)
[06:05] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sorry forgot anout p/e. used to gpt these days
[06:06] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: would you like a seperate /home or are you happy with a single partition?
[06:06] <jirido> well lets say i have not tweeked it but.. it got this way when i started to use thunderbird :)
[06:06] <Beldar> jirido, compiz and metacity are separate window managers by the way, not to be mixed.
[06:06] <vfw> mojtaba: If that were the case, your system would be running filesystem check now.
[06:07] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: I don't think I really need another partition for it? any particular benefit?
[06:07] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: Yes, and I just ignored it, because the disk is encrypted. (although I have let it to check for errors before, but nothing has changed.)
[06:07] <Beldar> jirido, What desktop are you using?
[06:07] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: only on reinstalling. but that isn't really such a major thing on servers
[06:08] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: full disk or just home folder encryption?
[06:08] <jirido> Beldar: I think i have compiz for some efects but that it passes the frame thing to metacity.. Does that sound sensible?
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: if you just want a single root. n <enter> p <enter> <enter> <enter> 83 <enter>
[06:08] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: full
[06:08] <jirido> pcmanfm
[06:08] <Beldar> jirido, No, and what desktop is this, be sure to always use nicks here.
[06:08] <jirido> or lxde
[06:08] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: so I typed 2048 [Enter] +2097152
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup
[06:09] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: where does the 82 come in?
[06:09] <jirido> Beldar: ok
[06:09] <Beldar> jirido, This is lxde, and you have mixed compiz and metacity? Di you know what the desktop manager is for lxde?
[06:09] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: it should ask after. if not we'll just specify that in a sec
[06:09] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: when you started the system, you provided the unlock to boot....it can check the disk at that point.
[06:09] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: nope, back to command prompt
[06:10] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: I am not sure, if I could isolate the bad sector with badblock command and fsck or not?!
[06:10] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. lets create /. n <enter> p <enter> <enter> <enter>
[06:10] <vfw> mojtaba: Don't ignore it.
[06:10] <vfw> mojtaba: Let it try and repair your filesystem.
[06:10] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: Yes, I have let it to check for that, and it said there are some problems at /home and /, but it could not fix them.
[06:10] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: alright
[06:10] <mojtaba> vfw: I let it, but it could not.
[06:11] <vfw> mojtaba: Well, you won't know until you try.  Right?
[06:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: t <enter>
[06:11] <mojtaba> vfw: I tried.
[06:11] <vfw> mojtaba: fsck -y /dev/what-ever
[06:11] <mojtaba> before
[06:11] <jirido> Beldar: you make me confused here.. This thing with window frames themes and window managers are like djungle already.. is ther some comand i can run that shows what setup i have?
[06:11] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: sudo fsck -Af -M
[06:11] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:11] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: ls -ld /home/mojtaba > drwx------ 122 mojtaba mojtaba
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: that should ask, whick partition. choose 1
[06:12] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: vfw: As the disk is encrypted, is it safe to run fsck on it?
[06:12] <gueriLLaPunK> so i have this VPS with 12.10 and i tried to apt-get update
[06:12] <gueriLLaPunK> and i got this
[06:12] <gueriLLaPunK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842165/
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then give it: 82 as type
[06:12] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[06:12] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: you should be ok.  You unlocked it at boot and it is readable
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now: w <enter>    to write it to disk
[06:13] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: .
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:13] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: It do not ask any password at boot. I have not encrypted the whole system while installing ubuntu. Later I encrypt the whole system. (but I do not remember what were the commands.)
[06:13] <Beldar> jirido, I suspect the root of the problem is the tweaking with compiz and metacity, and theming, just a guess but probably accurate. Lxde is meant to be pretty basic I would be careful, when you add stuff extra like this you are heading for a no support area technically.
[06:13] <josh____> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842167/
[06:13] <josh____> hitsujiTMO:
[06:13] <jirido> Beldar: Do you mean pcmanfm
[06:13] <vfw> mojtaba: But do NOT run fsck on a mounted partition.
[06:14] <mojtaba> It seems, it is read only again?
[06:14] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sweet
[06:14] <golfinho_333> vfw and somsip the solution is in: sudo nano /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf need to disable there it was bloking te public_html  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502067
[06:14] <vfw> golfinho_333: Thanks for letting us know.
[06:14] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: vfw: -M doesn't check mounted
[06:14] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mkswap /dev/sda1
[06:14] <golfinho_333> vfw thanks for the help :)
[06:14] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: this is so much more fun than pressing enter over and over :P
[06:14] <Beldar> jirido, pcfman is the file type
[06:15] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: lol
[06:15] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda2
[06:15] <jirido> Beldar: well so far it has gone werry well.. pcmanfm
[06:15] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: it seems I could remove that file. Let me see if I could login or not.
[06:15] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done.
[06:15] <vfw> golfinho_333: You disabled what?
[06:16] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: mkdir install && sudo mount /dev/sda2 install && sudo debootstrap saucy install
[06:16] <Beldar> jirido, Sure, however you are beyond any logical use and have done this without really knowing the capabilities and limitations is all.
[06:16] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: if the system doesn't ask for a password on boot, it is not encrypted (from my experience with different encryptions)   Have you tried accessing the disk from a liveCD?  Can you read the volumes?  if so, it isn't encrypted
[06:16] <golfinho_333> vfw the place that says  /*/public_html
[06:16] <jirido> Beldar: I do not know how it would work to disable metacity and just use compiz.. could i still use the openbox themes?
[06:16] <golfinho_333> it was off
[06:17] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: Thank you very much. I could login to GUI. :)  (Do you have any comment on the disk, itself? I could pastebin the result of the commands)
[06:17] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: No, I can not access the disk with live CD.
[06:17] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: seems to not want to create install, saying it already exists
[06:18] <Beldar> jirido, I have no idea, I don't tweak my OS's in general with theming or managers.
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: o.O
[06:18] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: and rmdir doesn't work, says it's busy
[06:18] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: good.  What do you mean comments?
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: are you in ~ ?
[06:18] <vfw> golfinho_333: php_admin_value engine Off  ?
[06:18] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: yup
[06:18] <jirido> Beldar: Hey i dont ned this.. Youre way of talking to me make me sad a litle.. I feel that if you dont know how to help me just say so ok
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: mount | pastebinit
[06:18] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I mean, what should I do to isolate that bad sectors?
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: thats weird ~/install doesn't exist by default
[06:19] <josh____> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842181/
[06:19] <jirido> Beldar: Its ok
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> why cant i update my repos?
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842165/
[06:19] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: the error must be from the debootstrap
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> i dont even have nano
[06:19] <vfw> golfinho_333: or did you comment out that whole stansa?
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> so i can edit files
[06:19] <hitsujiTMO> ls -l install
[06:19] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: maybe... maybe I forgot a pair of &&s
[06:19] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: nope
[06:20] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: You can try....I'd replace the disk as you were going to.  Make that current disk a portable drive until it dies. (my opinion)
[06:20] <golfinho_333> vfw this---> http://pastebin.com/wzvRqmLa
[06:20] <Beldar> jirido, Reality can be painful. I am just noticing your tweaking without really knowing what you are doing is all. At least that is my impression. ;)
[06:20] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ls -l install returns nothing right?
[06:20] <golfinho_333> vfw need to disable this
[06:20] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: What should I do for over heating problem then, as it might kill the new HDD too. :(
[06:20] <josh____> Desktop , Documents, Downloads, install, music, pictures, public, templates, videos
[06:20] <golfinho_333> vfw that why it was only working the php in /var/www and not in localhost/~username
[06:20] <josh____> hitsujiTMO:
[06:21] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I did not have this problem in windows. unfortunately
[06:21] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: what about: ls -l install
[06:21] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: lost+found
[06:21] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: owned by root, rwx by only root
[06:21] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. lets try again: sudo debootstrap saucy install
[06:21] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: blow out the vents with compressed air.  Attempt (if you are brave) to access the heatsink and really clean it.
[06:22] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: the overheat issue?
[06:22] <jirido> Beldar: I have not been tweeking. ones a year ago i have installed compiz and since then every thing has been all ok. Now i started to use thunderbird and it dont get window frames and i need some leads how i can start to find the problem.. Ev some comand that lists what wm i have in actual use  and so on
[06:22] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: no such script /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/saucy
[06:22] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: o.O is this the 13.10 iso?
[06:22] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I have used compressed air several times. (I checked how to change the fan in youtube, my laptop is Dell Studio 1555, almost everything must be taken apart. :( )
[06:23] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: Yes
[06:23] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: oh dang it... I accidentally downloaded 13.04 from the page I was on *epicfacepalm*
[06:23] <jirido> Beldar: its anoying since i have to alt tab out of it every time i check mail..
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: lol.
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: no problems
[06:24] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: welp... guess I'll get on that
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: 2 secs: sudo apt-get purge debootstrap
[06:24] <jirido> Beldar: I have done that for a month now
[06:25] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.53_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i debootstrap_1.0.53_all.deb
[06:25] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ily for saving me the time...
[06:26] <jirido> Beldar: Is there not some way to get to se what order things are straped?
[06:26] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: I have a fan laptable  It keeps it cool
[06:26] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: onces thats done try again: sudo debootstrap saucy install
[06:26] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I have a fan with 4 blowers. But sometimes it is not enogh
[06:27] <mojtaba> enough*
[06:27] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it's working so far
[06:27] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: cool. that may take a bit of time. let me know when its complete. ususally talking 5 - 10 mins
[06:28] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[06:28] <jirido> Beldar: Did you get angry with me now?
[06:28] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: in the mean time. what country are you in. i'll generate a sources.list now
[06:28] <gueriLLaPunK> why cant i update my repos?
[06:28] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: Why ubuntu cause over heating problems, while windows does not!
[06:28] <gueriLLaPunK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842165/
[06:29] <gueriLLaPunK> i cant even get nano
[06:29] <gueriLLaPunK> bash: nano: command not found
[06:29] <gueriLLaPunK> apt-get nano gives me
[06:29] <gueriLLaPunK> E: Invalid operation nano
[06:30] <mojtaba> Will ubuntu 14.04 LTS be more stable and will the over heating be still there?!
[06:30] <hitsujiTMO> gueriLLaPunK: sudo apt-get install nano
[06:30] <gueriLLaPunK> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:30] <gueriLLaPunK> E: Unable to locate package nano
[06:30] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: US
[06:30] <gueriLLaPunK> lol i forgot install before
[06:30] <gueriLLaPunK> but i still cant update apt-get
[06:31] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: btw, when we were creating the swap, how'd you calculate the 2 million figure?
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> gueriLLaPunK: an issue with the dns that its using. try changing the dns
[06:31] <gueriLLaPunK> ahh
[06:31] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: if you have partial blockage of the fins on the CPU heatsink, Ubuntu uses the CPU more aggressively at times, so it may show up
[06:31] <Beldar> mojtaba, I have the feeling you may have not done all that can be done to make sure the heat is taken care of. On my toshiba laptop windows runs hotter, I would investigates that computer model and heat with ubuntu and make sure it is clean and get a cooling pad that will cool it.
[06:32] <Beldar> mojtaba, Make sure the sensors are running accurate as well.
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: the sector size for your hdd is 512 bytes. 1gb = 1024 * 1024 * 1024 = 1073741824 bytes. so thats 1073741824 / 512 = 2097152 sectors
[06:33] <mojtaba> Beldar: How should I check the sensors status?
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> hitsujiTMO, i went here
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078398
[06:33] <NealNewAtLinux> Hello people. I am a complete newbie at ubuntu. I don't seem to have any programs or GUI. what do I do?
[06:33] <Beldar> !lm-sensors | mojtaba
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> and i got this
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> even thou im root
[06:33] <jirido> Beldar: I think if you dont want to help me say so not just say im been tweeking and let go like i dont exist..
[06:34] <gueriLLaPunK> if i do vim before it, its blank
[06:34] <NealNewAtLinux> http://imgur.com/uU3syCh pic is relevent
[06:34] <mojtaba> Beldar: I will check that, thank you.
[06:34] <kathuria> hello
[06:34] <hitsujiTMO> gueriLLaPunK: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[06:34] <gueriLLaPunK> ty
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> sudo: unable to resolve host la-vps19.chicagovps.net
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[06:35] <kathuria> how can i get animation software ??
[06:35] <Beldar> mojtaba, No problem, just be sure to get this fixed, overheating the laptop is not good will shorten its life and can brick the OS, at the least.
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> yay
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> it works
[06:35] <mojtaba> Beldar: yes. Thanks
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> i removed sudo, since im root (i assume)
[06:35] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: base system installed
[06:36] <gueriLLaPunK> hitsujiTMO, thank you very much
[06:36] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the explanation. saving that for next time i need to manually partition
[06:36] <NealNewAtLinux> Gentlemen, I implore you to help me http://imgur.com/uU3syCh
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if I am using a laptop with Xubuntu on it, what would be the best way to configure ufw for typical desktop use?
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> if am not planning on sshing into my laptop
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> just to use it physically
[06:37] <Beldar> !details | NealNewAtLinux
[06:37] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: wget -O sources.list http://sprunge.us/hLfI
[06:37] <Beldar> NealNewAtLinux, State the issues, a picture means nothing without them.
[06:38] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: perfect
[06:38] <NealNewAtLinux> I just booted up ubuntu from a thumb drive and have no idea how to run programs
[06:38] <Beldar> NealNewAtLinux, This is support, state the issues individually.
[06:38] <imghost> !manual | NealNewAtLinux
[06:39] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: Go to start menu
[06:39] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo cp sources.list install/etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <NealNewAtLinux> I have not been able to find any start menu. I hit the windows key, to no avail
[06:39] <NealNewAtLinux> !manual
[06:39] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:39] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mount --bind /dev install/dev
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mount --bind /sys install/sys
[06:40] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: Is there no panel or windowbar?
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mount --bind /dev/pts install/dev/pts
[06:40] <NealNewAtLinux> No, there isn't.
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mount -t proc none install/proc
[06:40] <jirido> upps
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: mount | pastebinit
[06:40] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: rightclick on desktop then
[06:41] <glitsj16> jirido: you mentioned having a gtk2 theme .. have you tried disabling it temporarily to see if that has any effect?
[06:41] <lacrymol1gy> I'm getting this on apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[06:41] <NealNewAtLinux> jirido, did that, nothing. the "desktop" doesn't seem to have anything but a background
[06:41] <lacrymol1gy> it is stopping the upgrade manager from working
[06:42] <imghost> NealNewAtLinux, you did a fresh install?
[06:42] <NealNewAtLinux> Yes
[06:42] <jirido> glitsj16: How do i do that.. some theme i must have dont i?
[06:42] <imghost> NealNewAtLinux, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[06:42] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842280/
[06:42] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: That sounds bad
[06:43] <NealNewAtLinux> ubuntu 13.10
[06:43] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo chroot install
[06:43] <NealNewAtLinux> desktop-i386
[06:43] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:43] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: is it a new ubuntu
[06:43] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: need to generate the mtab: cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[06:43] <NealNewAtLinux> is 13.10 new?
[06:44] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[06:44] <glitsj16> jirido: i'm not too familiar with lxde, anything like gnome-tweak-tool you can install thru apt-get?
[06:44] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: let me know if there's errors here: apt-get update
[06:45] <imghost> NealNewAtLinux, try to reset the unity open the terminal press ctrl+T and type dconf "reset -f /org/compiz/"
[06:45] <glitsj16> jirido: you could also check your ~/.themes directory and temporarily renaming the theme involved
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: jirido lxde has lxappearance
[06:46] <imghost> NealNewAtLinux, then "setsid unity" and "unity --reset-icons"
[06:46] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: great thx, that should make things easier for jirido
[06:46] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: GPG key error
[06:46] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: rest worked until the very end
[06:47] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: 16126D3A3E5C1192   ???
[06:47] <jirido> glitsj16: I would like to try to disable compiz and se whats happens but everytime i do such changes (i have not found out realy how to turn compiz of but anyway) things get ugly and i sitt with the promt att ctrl alt F1
[06:47] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: yep
[06:47] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 16126D3A3E5C1192
[06:47] <zedzdead> Hey guys, this is Austin!
[06:48] <NealNewAtLinux> hit ctrl-t, nothing happened
[06:48] <glitsj16> jirido: let's go for the theme check first perhaps, we can have a look at compiz in a sec
[06:48] <glitsj16> jirido: just trying to rule out a few things, not that i already know what your issue is and holding it back :)
[06:48] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then once again: apt-get update
[06:49] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok... running update now
[06:49] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:49] <vfw> NealNewAtLinux: Alt-F2 gnome-terminal
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: need the language pack: apt-get install language-pack-en
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then set the locale: update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US
[06:50] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: was going to mention locale errors. will do.,
[06:50] <jirido> glitsj16: Thunderbird dont use the usual theme engine it seems.. it has it own themes/ so you meen i should just try change theme in LXaperance.. that i have already done and it does not affect.. maybe if i could switch window manager.. temporarly.
[06:50] <NealNewAtLinux> vfw: nothing happened, again
[06:50] <vfw> NealNewAtLinux: I don't know then...
[06:51] <NealNewAtLinux> could it be that I booted from a usb drive?
[06:51] <vfw> NealNewAtLinux: Alt-F2 does nothing?
[06:51] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:51] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now, some of the base packages may need an update: apt-get upgrade
[06:51] <NealNewAtLinux> yeah, no response
[06:52] <vahid> hi
[06:52] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: next install the kernel and grub make sure to install grub to /dev/sda (NOT /dev/sda1 !!!): apt-get install linux-image grub-pc
[06:52] <NealNewAtLinux> is it safe to pull out my usb drive? I need to go to bed
[06:52] <glitsj16> jirido: okay, that complicates things a bit, are you using the default thunderbird theme? if not, try that please
[06:52] <vahid> hi all
[06:53] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: *takes deep breath before typing*
[06:53] <NealNewAtLinux> should I turn off my computer before removing the thumb drive
[06:54] <vahid> ho install font in back box
[06:54] <harvi> msg Nickserv Identify killer11
[06:54] <NealNewAtLinux> uhh
[06:54] <Nullifi3d> lol
[06:54] <NealNewAtLinux> he better change his password
[06:54] <vahid> hi all
[06:54] <glitsj16> jirido: openbox should be your window manager in lxde iirc, at least it should be the default unless you changed it, we'll check on that if the thunderbird default theme change doesn't improve things
[06:55] <NealNewAtLinux> hi vahid
[06:55] <vahid> hi
[06:55] <vahid> im install back bus but not working virtual box help
[06:55] <NealNewAtLinux> vfw I need to go, and my comp needs to be turned off.
[06:55] <vahid> and
[06:55] <jirido> glitsj16: no it didnt.. It just looked bad :)
[06:56] <vahid> how install blututhe
[06:56] <NealNewAtLinux> there is no power shutoff button since I have no gui, should I just hold the button and do a force-shutdown
[06:56] <vahid> and
[06:56] <jirido> glitsj16: and i tried gtk theme changer and changed to an other theme but no.
[06:56] <glitsj16> jirido: lol, ok, let's see what your ccsm has to report on the window manager settings .. can you open that up and point it at the 'window decorations' part?
[06:56] <vahid> and
[06:57] <NealNewAtLinux> stop acting like a 12 year old
[06:57] <vahid> how inistal persian font
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: that installed?
[06:59] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: almost... what i said was a little premature. packages were dowloading then.
[06:59] <vahid> no persian site is ad font
[06:59] <jirido> glitsj16: when i do change theme in openbox configuration manager nothing happens
[06:59] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: now... the real moment of truth
[06:59] <vahid> how install virtual box in back box
[07:00] <glitsj16> jirido: looks like we need to search for other possible causes besides themes, what do you think?
[07:00] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: installed
[07:00] <vahid> not working eror
[07:01] <vahid> erorr
[07:01] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now, some debian installs dont trigger update-grub or grub-install when installing grub-pc, so to be sure: update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda
[07:01] <vahid> how install virtual box
[07:02] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: if you need to configure the keyboard layout: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[07:02] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: no errors
[07:02] <jirido> glitsj16: I think i paste some gtk info!
[07:02] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/d3hPm8hM
[07:02] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: set the timezone: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[07:02] <glitsj16> jirido: the odd thing is that it seems to be only the main thunderbird window that is lacking decorations .. that's why i asked about your compiz settings in 'window decorations' .. there might be a rule (or part of it that is causing that)
[07:02] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: keybaord layout is okay from what I can tell
[07:03] <jirido> Ok i look
[07:03] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: tz set
[07:03] <MAD_51> morning!
[07:03] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: apt-get install pastebinit
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: blkid | pastebinit
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: need this so we can generate the fstab
[07:04] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: what step made the commands affect the new system rather than the live cd? was it chroot?
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup
[07:05] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: chroot = change root
[07:05] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842339/
[07:05] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: right, I knew that but never really understood how it worked
[07:05] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: trying to keep this knowledge for the future, that's why I ask.
[07:06] <mojtaba1> Hi, Does anybody know how can I monitor the output of a command like sensors or acpi continously via terminal?
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: whats your favourite text editor in console?
[07:06] <somsip> mojtaba1: man watch
[07:06] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: nano, but vi/vim is doable for me too
[07:06] <mojtaba1> somsip: thanks
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: apt-get install nano
[07:07] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[07:07] <glitsj16> jirido: the paste looks okay, those GTK_xxx env vars not being set is normal, as you can see it then looks at the default file locations for whatever it needs .. nothing i can see there that could act oddly
[07:08] <udo> quit
[07:08] <udo> exit
[07:08] <udo> #quit
[07:08] <udo> ?
[07:08] <udo> help
[07:09] <mojtaba1> somsip: how should exit that?
[07:09] <mojtaba1> somsip: except ctrl+c
[07:09] <somsip> mojtaba1: CTRL-C
[07:09] <somsip> mojtaba1: kill it then
[07:09] <mojtaba1> somsip: can I watch multiple commands with one watch command?
[07:09] <glitsj16> jirido: just to make sure .. would you mind pasting your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file?
[07:10] <somsip> mojtaba1: no reason why you can't use more than one terminal. Or wrap the commands in a batch file
[07:10] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done installing nano
[07:10] <mojtaba1> somsip: I just wanted to have the output in one place
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: 2 secs. just preping the sources.list
[07:11] <jirido> glitsj16: i killed compiz and started metacity.. everything got a lot stiffer as im used to rubber windows that snap ..:) But the same same with thunderbird
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: 2 secs. just preping the fstab sorry
[07:11] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: cd /etc
[07:11] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: wget -O fstab http://sprunge.us/BEMP
[07:12] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: no wget... just a sec
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: apt-get install wget && wget -O fstab http://sprunge.us/BEMP
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: :P
[07:13] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done with that now
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: create a user account: adduser <insertusernamehere>
[07:13] <glitsj16> jirido: hard one to diagnose, so nothing in your ccsm 'window decorations' mentioning thunderbird? especially in the box with the same name, comes with a setting of "any" by default .. but you'll have to fire compi back up i guess
[07:14] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[07:14] <jirido> glitsj16: so its not the wm..  ?? could i try to reach thunderbird manual or maybe start it in cli and pipe errors to file? / i did
[07:15] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: add user to the sudoers group, be wary here: its a small a capital G: usermod -aG sudo <insertusernamehere>
[07:16] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: k
[07:16] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: what hostname do you want for the server?
[07:16] <glitsj16> jirido: if there isn't any rule in your window decorations stansa in ccsm i don't think it is part of the issue no .. good idea about going manual on the thunderbird
[07:16] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: s2 is okay for now, i'll set it to a fqdn later once i point something
[07:17] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: echo "s2" > /etc/hostname
[07:17] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: echo "127.0.1.1 s2" >> /etc/hosts
[07:18] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: do i need to remove the ubuntu hostname entry>
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: this should overwrite it
[07:18] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: well.. it didn't. i'll fix it
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: cool
[07:18] <Teo_77> hello everybody
[07:19] <Teo_77> I have a strange question and I am not able to find a solution in the sea of internet. Can I try here?
[07:19] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok done there
[07:20] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now, how do you setup the network?  dhcp? static?
[07:20] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: dhcp
[07:20] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: had bad experiences with static, so i just let the router assign static IPs
[07:21] <Teo_77> how can I put specific folders in a specific HD without creating a partition each?
[07:22] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok: cd /etc/network
[07:22] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: wget -O interfaces http://sprunge.us/SJaX
[07:22] <Beldar> Teo_77, Partition each? what is the end goal?
[07:22] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[07:23] <Teo_77> I mean: I have 2 HD on HD 1 I have 2 partitions (/ and /home) 2nd disk is empty
[07:23] <Teo_77> I would like to move some specific folder to second disk
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. you have an absolute minimal server install now.
[07:23] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: alright... guess I'll reboot and see if it works?
[07:24] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup
[07:24] <sweetgum> hi... im trying to install java dk 6 can someone help?
[07:24] <Beldar> Teo_77, So you are saying you don;t know how to move files from one HD to another?
[07:24] <Beldar> !java | sweetgum
[07:25] <Teo_77> could be... 1st disk is a SSD and to contain number of writes I would like to put fonders like /var on the magnetic HD
[07:25] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: oh wow. no stats motd
[07:25] <glitsj16> jirido: in the mean time i'm looking at the reported launchpad bugs for thunderbird
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup. as i said, minimal install
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: few things to clean up first
[07:26] <Teo_77> moving with mv is usual also among mounted disks
[07:26] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: what's the proper way to set console screen size? i've seen old forum posts, but i imagine some of those are old
[07:26] <Beldar> Teo_77, /var is in root right, what is the purpose?
[07:26] <Teo_77> but I'm unsure how to tell to kernel where are folder it needs
[07:26] <Teo_77> let's do an example
[07:26] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: it should do it dynamically for you. is it not?
[07:27] <glitsj16> jirido: doing that i realised i never asked if you already tried a temp rename of your thunderbird profile so it gets a fresh one on a restart .. longshots at best
[07:27] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: it shouldn't matter anyway as you should be ssh'ing in :P
[07:27] <Beldar> Teo_77, Is the SSD to full, and this is your answer to that?
[07:27] <Teo_77> I've read that to contain the number of writes (and increase the life of the SSD) it is advisable to have some folders on a traditional disk
[07:27] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it's just in a corner of the display. but it's not a big deal like you say.
[07:27] <Teo_77> to reduce the number of writes
[07:28] <Teo_77> of course y ssd cannot store all my system and I need to move something also on the other HD.
[07:28] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: lol only 46MB of RAM utilized
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. need to run: echo "ohci_pci" | sudo tee -a /etc/initramfs-tools/modules && update-initramfs -u
[07:29] <jirido> glitsj16: ok so i try that first..
[07:29] <Teo_77> Beldar, I'm not sure I explained my question. Is my goal clear?
[07:29] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: this fixes that bug you were on about that prevented you from installing. You need this incase you ever want to use the recovery console or get dropped to busybox
[07:30] <Beldar> Teo_77, SSD's now a days have as long a life as spinning HD's, have you set up a optimizing schema?
[07:31] <Teo_77> set up a optimizing schema? Don't understand. So there is no need to take particular care. The only problem could be the available space.
[07:31] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it failed. ln failed to create hard link - op not permitted, cp cant create regular file - permission denied
[07:31] <Teo_77> Beldar, do you mean TRIM?
[07:32] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now, if you want, you can install ubuntu-standard .... this will gove you a nice base to work from. it installs tools like, memtest86+, man, ntfs-3g, openssh-client, bash-completion, command-not-found and a few others
[07:32] <Beldar> Teo_77, For al general purposes yes, SSD's in the beginning had shorter now they are more robust. Yes trim.
[07:32] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: pastebinit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[07:33] <Teo_77> Beldar, TRIM is OK. Asking now just your opinion. What should I put on a spinning HD? My 120Gb SSD is not enough for everything. I understand it is a silly question. Just your opinion...
[07:33] <jirido> glitsj16: i changed name of the profile in profiles.ini.. nd got :Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible.. when it started.. or rather did'nt start :/
[07:34] <Teo_77> Beldar, if I put all my /home I loose the speed of SSD for the handling of my files (docs, videos for editing, pics reading)
[07:34] <Beldar>  Teo_77 All the extra media stuff to start with, what is on the SSD as of now, I have 256 gig SSD and 4 OS.
[07:36] <Teo_77> Beldar, I'm going to have 128Gb SSD. Ordered. Now in travel. 1 SO (xubuntu) not a complex system. LVM. a /home with some Gigs of videos and music and pics that will not fit in the SSD
[07:36] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sorry, forgot sudo: sudo update-initramfs -u
[07:37] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: was wondering if that was the issue
[07:37] <Beldar> Teo_77, I can't say exactly should be on the SSD or the spinning HD, but I would avoid breaking apart the OS anymore that putting home or root there is all myself.
[07:37] <glitsj16> jirido: every time i'm tempted to give you a command to purge thunderbird .. i did find a forum thread though --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2184227 .. so your not the only one seeing this behavior
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: once everything is done: sudo apt-get clean
[07:37] <Beldar> than*
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then congrats on getting your server installed
[07:38] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: alright. thanks so much. glad that it eventually got working. I learned a lot from this. Is there a wiki page for this process or is it a mostly undocumented thing?
[07:38] <Teo_77> Beldar, thank you for your time and your answers. I'll take everything on my SSD. I'll just create a folder on the spininng HD to contain the media files that I do not need to edit anymore
[07:39] <Beldar> Teo_77, No problem, that sounds like a prudent action, I was thinking along the same lines.
[07:39] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: public documentation for this kind of thing is allover the place. I have my own documentation that I was working from
[07:40] <Teo_77> Beldar, ;) Bye. Have a nice day/evening/night
[07:40] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: is there any way I could get said documentation so that i can play around with other boxes and stuff?
[07:40] <Beldar> you to
[07:41] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: thats it, but its based on uefi and not mbr install. https://wiki.tenmilesout.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Debootstrap_Efi_Minimal_Install
[07:41] <root32> how to make ubuntu boot cd using live cd ?
[07:41] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: most of my docs are on a home server
[07:42] <jirido> glitsj16: Yess sweetheart! It was something wrong with the profile! So smart of you to think of it! I had no idea that a profile could rech out and kick the window frames of a program like that..
[07:43] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: thanks for your tine. that page is getting bookmarked for sure
[07:43] <glitsj16> jirido: \o/ :p
[07:43] <Beldar> !details | root32
[07:43] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: no problem
[07:46] <root32> ubottu: i have new ubuntu .iso image , i try to boot it with vatual box , but not boot it.. :(
[07:46] <glitsj16> jirido: odd indeed, especially that it would only affect the main window .. oh well, enjoy the compiz/lxde combo i'd say
[07:47] <root32> ubottu: it's ok.. :)
[07:48] <MAD_51> morning!
[07:48] <root32> MAD_51: Morning :D
[07:49] <Beldar> root32, your description lack any real details, you might try #vbox as well, we can help with better details in general.
[07:50] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: Follow-up question: when I run "sudo shutdown now", it doesn't shutdown, but just enters single-user mode -- is that a setting of some sort?
[07:51] <apb1963> How can I find what packages depend on a specific version of a library?  In particular, libqtcore4 version 4.8.2  ?
[07:52] <root32> Beldar: no need to use with vertual box, i want to make boot .iso ubuntu image.. how to do it?
[07:52] <apb1963> I know that I can do apt-cache rdepends <pkgname>... but that doesn't specify the specific version in use.
[07:53] <Beldar> root32, For an install on the HD? Burn it to a disk, or load it to a usb with an app.
[07:54] <Paulyoung> 	0,16 大家好
[07:54] <jirido> glitsj16: Thank you very much love, It has been e real anoyance..! are you in for an other litle problem after a litle coffe brake or shall we rest for another day..?
[07:54] <root32> Beldar: ok , what is the app for boot usb ?
[07:55] <Beldar> root32, What OS do you have to do this with, there are handfulls of usb loaders, some run in specific OS's and have versions for others.
[07:55] <glitsj16> jirido: if i can help, i just poored a big cup .. and the channel reads along so ask away
[07:55] <hitsujiTMO> joshhunt_: sudo poweroff
[07:56] <jirido> ok. This gona be messy
[07:56] <glitsj16> heh
[07:56] <root32> Beldar: Ubuntu new version ?
[07:57] <Beldar> root32, what operating system are you using so that you can load the usb?
[07:58] <Beldar> root32, If we are having a language problem, there is ubuntu support for specific languages if needed.
[07:59] <nearst> ask!
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> root32: ##ubuntu-lk
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> root32: sorry #ubuntu-lk
[08:03] <glitsj16> apb1963: just a question .. are you sure about the version #? can't find any mention of a version 4:4.8.2 on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:04] <apb1963> glitsj16: it comes from the backports ppa... which is why I need to get rid of it.  I'm told it's not supported.
[08:05] <glitsj16> apb1963: are you on precise 12.04?
[08:05] <apb1963> glitsj16: yes
[08:07] <glitsj16> apb1963: you could try to downgrade the version to the one from the regular repos, but before trying .. do you want to disable backports all together ?
[08:08] <apb1963> glitsj16: so before I get rid of it, I want to see what packages depend on it.... I don't want to be left with an unusable system
[08:11] <glitsj16> apb1963: hmm, i understand .. especially with a core lib like that it could be hairy
[08:11] <apb1963> glitsj16: No, I don't think I do... though to be honest I'm not 100% sure.  I'm just stumbling along trying to setup various packages that look useful for a real business.
[08:11] <apb1963> glitsj16: And keep running into major hiccups.
[08:11] <jirido> glitsj16: You see I have a 2 terabyte disk. I sharede it in two. one i had to format to hfs+ to get on it some film i got to edit on a school in helsini. They only had mac and.. yes so i formated it so.. but as i omly used about 2-300 gig its mostly empty.. The other part. is full soo full.. good alternative Films and dockumentarys and so on. so i ofcorse wanted to use some of that lovly empty space.. but as linux cant write at hfs+ th
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: apt-cache show libqtcore4 | grep 'Depends\|Recommends'
[08:13] <jirido> glitsj16: so now i cant mount it even  to read it.
[08:14] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: Thank you but that doesn't tell me what depends on libqtcore4... it tells me what libqtcore4 depends on... the exact reverse
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: ahh sorry. apt-cache rdepends libqtcore4     but thats a list of everying in the repo. not necessarily whats installed
[08:16] <jirido> It complains of differensies in the backup of superblock or something.. when i mount in spacefm it says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[08:17] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: ahh sorry. apt-cache rdepends libqtcore4     but thats a list of everying in the repo. not necessarily whats installed
[08:17] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I didn't realize it was everything in the repo... but it also fails to provide specific versions.
[08:18] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: now at least I understand why the list is so long :)
[08:22] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: whats the output of: apt-cache show libqtcore4 | grep Version
[08:22] <glitsj16> jirido: did you ran a fsck on it yet? and this isn't exactly one of my strong suits .. maybe try to put a paste together with the logs so people here can have a closer look on the issue
[08:23] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO:  apt-cache --installed rdepends libqtcore4  limits to installed packages
[08:24] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842589/
[08:25] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: sweet, will note that for future. for specific version try: apt-cache --installed rdepends libqtcore4=4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa6
[08:25] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: or: apt-cache --installed rdepends libqtcore4>=4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa6
[08:26] <jirido> glitsj16: I actually could mount it again.. I just looked and tryed a little and when i took away the default option in fstab.. it MOUNTED! :)   But So comes next Q Is it safe to change owner of the files from whitin linux right like that and will it work with a mac then?
[08:27] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: the latter gives no output.... the former outputs the same thing as not specifying the version
[08:29] <Shikieiki_> is it bad to do-release-upgrade and not reboot afterwards?
[08:30] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, You have to reboot to finalize the upgrade.
[08:30] <Shikieiki_> because my ubuntu just reached it's end of life apparently, but i have 100+ days of uptime and i'm going for a new personal record.
[08:30] <Walex> Shikieiki_: it is not *that* bad.
[08:30] <Shikieiki_> Beldar: but it wont' cause any severe instability or anything?
[08:30] <glitsj16> jirido: by taking out the 'defaults' you don't exactly change ownership of the files on there, so now yoy don't have anything at all in fstab after blowing away defaults?
[08:30] <makara> hi. I've got an old laptop. It doesn't handle unity graphics so well. I remember years ago an option to use Unity2D, or choose whatever GUI at login menu. But in 13.04 now I don't see that option?
[08:31] <Shikieiki_> because i'm hesitant to force an upgrade through two versions without rebooting if it will break everything
[08:31] <hitsujiTMO> makara: lubuntu would be the best bet for such a system. unity2d is gone a while now
[08:32] <hitsujiTMO> makara: also. 13.04 is end of life
[08:32] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, I would forget the uptime it means nothing, do it correctly.
[08:33] <makara> hitsujiTMO, how can I see ubuntu release from cli?
[08:33] <jirido> glitsj16: No.. It still has :hfsplus noatime,noauto,user,users
[08:33] <Shikieiki_> Beldar: but, is it known to cause any problems to not reboot?
[08:33] <hitsujiTMO> makara: cat /etc/issue      or lsb_release -c
[08:33] <Shikieiki_> or will all i miss out on be the newer kernel, until i reboot?
[08:33] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, Not an Issue I have seen addressed as it is not a good idea to be honest.
[08:34] <makara> hitsujiTMO, ok. I've just done a release-upgrade. It's 13.10
[08:34] <Shikieiki_> hm, how long then can an ubuntu that's been upgraded twice stay online before experiencing issues then?  hours?  days?
[08:34] <glitsj16> jirido: defaults as mount options implies rw, so that was the issue probably, you should be safe .. only test is reality as you know .. boot into OS X and native tools to do another file system check
[08:35] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, This is an unknown to be honest, to many variables.
[08:35] <Shikieiki_> hm
[08:35] <Shikieiki_> well, i guess i'll be the first, i'm curious now
[08:36] <Guest15747> hi
[08:36] <Guest15747> I'm having trouble with duplicate sources.list entries, any takers?
[08:36] <jirido> But i understand that user and owner should be 1000 on the disk preferably set from within mac as owner 99 cant be reached really as it some kind of virtual owner?? but what i wonder is if there is some way to change the owner in a safe and actuall way on that disk with owner and group 99?
[08:37] <Guest15747> This occurred after a release upgrade from Precise to Quantal
[08:37] <jirido> glitsj16: I mean owner and group
[08:37] <hitsujiTMO> Guest15747: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit
[08:37] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, Honestly risking the OS for some uptime cred that means nothing is rather illogical.
[08:38] <glitsj16> jirido: if you didn't chown'd anything taking out the 'default' mount option shouldn't do no harm .. or did you change ownerships?
[08:39] <Shikieiki_> Beldar: worst that happens is i have to reinstall.  i'm moving onto gentoo anyway, and haven't reinstalled yet simply because i'm going for 1 year of uptime (so it's not a hugely important computer)
[08:40] <glitsj16> jirido: add .. uid=1000,gid=1000 in that case
[08:41] <glitsj16> jirido: missed a part, so used to the highlighting on the nick that i overlooked sorry
[08:41] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, You can setup ubuntu to not need reboots with kernel upgrades, IE with a LTS you could possibly have a 5 year up time.
[08:42] <Shikieiki_> i know, i plan on sticking with LTS from now on
[08:42] <jirido> glitsj16: sorry
[08:42] <Shikieiki_> for kernel updates at least, i never reboot (unless the update fixes a security flaw)
[08:45] <jirido> glitsj16: The thing is that if i gona use the uid and gid bits the ownership on the disk must be sett to that. but ownership 99 on mac is "everybody" and works like a cameliont and change after whats youre uid.. But does it do that on linux also? and if i chown it to 1000.1000 will that be permanent?
[08:46] <jirido> And do i really need to?
[08:47] <jaclass08> where can i download stuff
[08:48] <glitsj16> jirido: best ask some confirmation on that here, not sure on that and we wouldn't wanna blow away your film collection .. that being said i think the uid/gid bits are for the duration of the mount cycle
[08:48] <DJones> jaclass08: You can download Ubuntu from www.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <hitsujiTMO> jaclass08: or Software Center
[08:49] <jaclass08> thnx
[08:50] <jirido> yes maybe i can set them to 99 ?
[08:51] <jirido> How can i se the actual owner and user of the partitition ? i know some folder on it is owned by root
[08:51] <Teozac> Hello
[08:52] <Teozac> now, im 100% new to ubuntu and linux at all so ive just come for some help
[08:52] <Beldar> !manual | Teozac a good start
[08:53] <makara> hi. I've locked myself out of a VM by setting SSH to refuse passwords, before I added my key. I've added the vdh to another instance of Ubuntu. How can I see it, and mount it, so I can add the key?
[08:53] <Teozac> Im trying to download an irc client and trying to grasp how to install something from the terminal
[08:54] <Beldar> Teozac, You want to stick with the ubuntu repos in general, it is rare you would need otherwise.
[08:55] <jirido> glitsj16: sorry again.. i think its time for me to go to bed  . :) You have been so sweet and patient with me .. Thank you and hope you all good and nice helpsearchers this morning. I se you around. Thanks
[08:55] <Beldar> makara, You would have to chroot in I would think.
[08:56] <Beldar> if you could but no password makes this difficult
[08:56] <optiwork> How can I get nvidia optimus to work on 13.10? LSPCI gives the following: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)
[08:56] <Beldar> !optimus | optiwork have you seen
[08:57] <glitsj16> jirido: keep well and have a nice stretch :)
[08:57] <optiwork> Beldar, Yes but then I have to run everything from the command line. Everything from Chrome and VMware to Wine and FreeCAD
[08:58] <optiwork> And Mathematica has issues with it. (Plots don't render unless your manipulating them)
[08:59] <Beldar> optiwork, Mainly for help here specific details are needed, not an area i"m real familiar with is all.
[09:00] <optiwork> optiwork, Well, My specific details on the hardware is above. All I'm looking to do is get 3D to work when I need it, and not when I don't. Just like it does on Windows - The card is off until something needs it.
[09:00] <aeon-ltd> Teozac: well what are you trying to install, 99% of the time you'll want to use 'sudo apt-get install nameofpackage'. sudo - superuser do, perform command as admin (so you have absolute rights); apt-get is the package manager ubuntu uses; install is a argument given to apt-get; nameofpackage - self explanatory
[09:01] <optiwork> Beldar, Whoops, I used my name instead of yours. The above was addressed to you.
[09:02] <Beldar> optiwork, This is linux, just like windows means nothing here. You have to be aware of the limitations of the drivers provided by vendors and the communities ability to work around this.
[09:03] <optiwork> Beldar, Don't nvidia provide drivers for Linux? I've used them on a previous machine. I just can't find any source saying that they fix the optimus problem - and a few say it breaks it.
[09:04] <Beldar> optiwork, proprietary drivers are not suggested in general, are starting to get a glimpse of the difficulties that need these details?
[09:04] <Beldar> you*
[09:05] <optiwork> Beldar, Well, what details do you need?
[09:05] <Beldar> optiwork, I can't help here, but piece by piece the exact problem would be the channel norm, not general statements.
[09:07] <interweb> Is there something like Arch Users Repository for ubuntu ?
[09:07] <Teozac> i think i managed to add the repo and install the program, but how do i find it?
[09:07] <Beldar> interweb, There are ubuntu repos.
[09:07] <optiwork> The exact problem is that since the nVidia card is not listed as a VGA device (Which is the norm for Optimus) - Ubuntu has no idea what it is. Infact, lspci -v says just that about it (unknown). Therefore, nVidia drivers lead to a black screen after reboot, which means that I can't use my dedicated graphics card for 3D support in Linux. I'd like to resolve this
[09:07] <Beldar> Teozac, what repo what program?
[09:08] <Teozac> https://launchpad.net/~nesthib/+archive/weechat-stable
[09:08] <Beldar> Teozac,  syn
[09:08] <glitsj16> !ppa | interweb
[09:08] <brontosaurusrex> Teozac, in terminal type wee and tab ?
[09:09] <Beldar> Teozac, weechat is in the ubuntu repos
[09:09] <brontosaurusrex> Teozac, however weechat should be in default repos, no?
[09:09] <Teozac> didnt know that
[09:09] <Teozac> however, thanks for the help
[09:09] <Teozac> ive never used ubuntu or any kind of linux before
[09:09] <Teozac> maybe thats obvious >(
[09:09] <Teozac> :)
[09:10] <Beldar> Teozac, No biggie, you will get the hang of it.
[09:10] <Teozac> bye
[09:11] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: so #kubuntu found an answer for me...  http://i.imgur.com/aI0i5PY.png
[09:11] <optiwork> Actually, I guess I should say that the exact problem is that the nVidia graphics card isn't being used, and that the packages in the Ubuntu repo give me a black screen on reboot.
[09:12] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: sadly, it looks like it found every package in the system :(
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: but that might be requiring >= a lower version or not specifying a specific version. a ppa-purge should bring it back to a stable state
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: if you can. image the drive. then there's no harm in testing
[09:14] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I'm not 100% positive, but it seems to be able to specify a specific version
[09:15] <chamunks> How do I figure out where ZNC is stored when apt-get installs it.
[09:15] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I'm nervous about imaging.... seems like a lot of potential for failure
[09:15] <chamunks> I'd like to attempt to modify the web panel to some extent.
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: clonezilla is prob the easiest way of imaging
[09:15] <Beldar> +1 clonezilla
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: dpkg -L <packagename>
[09:16] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I've looked at it... it's fraught with peril
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: practive on a virtual machine :P
[09:17] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: you have to know what you're doing with that thing.  Too easy to mess up.
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> practice*
[09:17] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: that's an interesting idea....  one that makes my head spin at the moment... not sure how I'd practice it
[09:18] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I get the VM part... I don't get the cloning part
[09:18] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I'd need a second disk right?
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: install ubuntu to a vm. image it. restore the image to another vm. easiest way of practicing
[09:18] <apb1963> interesting
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: yup. you store the image on another drive
[09:19] <apb1963> interesting
[09:19] <chamunks> ty HiddenDjinn
[09:19] <chamunks> sorry HiddenDjinn wrong highlight.
[09:19] <chamunks> thanks hitsujiTMO
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: np
[09:20] <Rory> Can I get wget to write to file foo (like -O foo option) but not if it's, say, a 404? Currently it just writes an empty file
[09:21] <Guest15747> any takers on Duplicate Sources.list entries?
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> Rory: afaik no, bur it returns non 0 on status other than 200 so: wget -O somefile.html http://example.com/ || rm somefile.html
[09:23] <Rory> hitsujiTMO: ha I like it!
[09:29] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, apparently it was compiled from source sadly.
[09:29] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: the interface?
[09:29] <chamunks> would you happen to know how I would decipher where its located that way?
[09:30] <chamunks> ZNC the irc bouncer thing http://irc.nixium.com:5500
[09:30] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the thoughts....  i'll have to look into it.... it may be just the ticket
[09:30] <chamunks> I want to kind of put in some kind of TOS on it.
[09:30]  * apb1963 says good night
[09:32] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: not sure. it depends on if its generated or what
[09:33] <chamunks> pardon?
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: the inerface html
[09:34] <Bear10> Is anyone familiar with grep and regex? I'm trying to run this: grep --exclude-dir={".svn",".git"} --exclude="files.txt" -R -G "/<\?php echo ([-a-zA-Z0-9 _ \' \( \) \] \[ \$ \+ \* \/ \. \, \;]*) *\?> *&euro;/" ./ and it's not picking up the regex
[09:34] <chamunks> its likely running out of the application.
[09:34] <Bear10> chamunks, is that directed at me?
[09:35] <chamunks> sorry no Bear10
[09:35] <Bear10> ah ok np
[09:35] <chamunks> it was directed at hitsujiTMO
[09:35] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: if thats the case you'd have dive into the c code, which ain't easy
[09:35] <chamunks> Oh dear
[09:40] <witheld> I'm looking in /etc/update-motd.d/ and I can't find anything to do with the "You have mail" thing
[09:40] <witheld> how is this done
[09:40] <witheld> and how do I get rid of it
[09:41] <geirha> witheld: Bash checks your mail and alerts you when you have new mail
[09:41] <witheld> geirha: bash itself is doing this? It's not running any scripts? That sounds weird
[09:42] <geirha> witheld: man bash  and search for MAIL (all uppercase)
[09:43] <geirha> witheld: And then see what's set currently with:  declare -p _ "${!MAIL@}"
[09:44] <ericP> nvidia-setting broke for me yesterday. i think i'm seeing <http://askubuntu.com/questions/412181/nvidia-settings-received-an-x-window-system-error-error-was-badvalue-intege>
[09:44] <geirha> witheld: Run the mail command to read that mail. If you are the first admin user of the system, you likely get all the admin mail from cron
[09:45] <ericP> i'd like to go back a version. <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings> indicates that there's a 304.51 version out there
[09:45] <ericP> is there a way to find out what version i previously had, grab it, and when i do, should i dpkg -i -f it?
[09:47] <geirha> Bear10: what is it supposed to match?
[09:47] <Bear10> geirha, it's supposed to match any <?php echo $somevariable ?> &euro; so i can then replace it with a transformed version
[09:49] <Bear10> it can be <?php echo $somearray['array']['value'] ?> &euro; or any variation, but the important part is i'm trying to get the thing that follows the echo and removing the &euro; so i can transform it to <?php echo $this->DisplayPrice->display($1); ?>
[09:50] <geirha> Bear10: try starting with a simpler regex:  find . \( -name .svn -o -name .git \) -prune -o -type f ! -name "files.txt" -exec grep '<? echo.*\&euro;' {} +
[09:50] <geirha> Bear10: It'll probably give some false positives, but keep adding bits to the regex until it matches only the lines you want
[09:50] <Bear10> well the grep works fine it's my specfiic syntax especially the ([-a-zA-Z0-9 _ \' \( \) \] \[ \$ \+ \* \/ \. \, \;]*)
[09:50] <Bear10> specifically
[09:50] <hitsujiTMO> Bear10: might be easier to perform such a match in python. grep can be rather awful for complex regexes
[09:50] <Bear10> when i substitute taht with .*
[09:50] <Bear10> it works
[09:51] <geirha> Bear10: Well yes, grep won't like that regex
[09:53] <geirha> Bear10: You're telling grep to use basic regular epxressions, but you're feeding it something that looks more like extended regular expressions, and with a bunch of backslashes, which may give undefined behavior
[09:53] <Bear10> but isnt -E telling it to use extended/
[09:53] <geirha> Bear10: I don't see any -E
[09:54] <Bear10> well i changed the -G to -E
[09:54] <Bear10> still
[09:55] <geirha> Bear10: well [\[] will match a \ or a [, so all your backslashes between [...] are pointless
[09:57] <geirha> Bear10: it also means that \] will escape the ] from closing the [...]
[09:57] <geirha> *will not
[09:57] <Bear10> not sure i follow, all my [ and ] are backslashed within the [...]
[09:57] <Bear10> i want those
[09:58] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:58] <NictraSavios> Hello, what mount options should I used in /etc/fstab for ntfs partitions to ensure that no other users can read/write/execute (besides me and root), and is there a way to make executing files possible on an ntfs partition without making all files executable?
[09:58] <cristian_c> I've tried to create a symbolic link
[09:58] <cristian_c> ln −s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse
[09:59] <geirha> Bear10: [abc\]xyz]  will match an  a, b, c or \ followed by the sequence "xyz]"
[09:59] <cristian_c> ln: "/dev/mouse" target is not a directory
[09:59] <llutz> NictraSavios: uid=your-uid,gid=your-gid,umask=0777
[09:59] <cristian_c> How can I solve?
[09:59] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:59] <llutz> NictraSavios: uid=your-uid,gid=your-gid,umask=0077               sry
[09:59] <Bear10> geirha, isn't or | ?
[09:59] <NictraSavios> llutz, Does that mark all files as executable?
[10:00] <llutz> NictraSavios: umask is not permissions, no it won't
[10:00] <JMT4> What is the phenomena called when I shutdown my computer and when I boot it up again the programs are still 'active' ?
[10:00] <NictraSavios> llutz, Perfect. So I don't need seperate fmask and dmasks? That's awesome!
[10:00] <geirha> Bear10: in ERE, there's | meaning OR, yes, if it's not inside [...] and not preceeded by a backslash
[10:00] <JMT4> I shutdown the PC but the programs are open when I start like I pressed hibernate or something like that instead.
[10:01] <llutz> NictraSavios: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask         i'm not sure about ntfs-options, would they support fmask/dmask at all?
[10:03] <NictraSavios> llutz, I've used them blindly in the past. No idea if they worked, I just copy-pasta from the ArchWiki
[10:03] <NictraSavios> llutz, But I had a lot of issues with ntfs, so on this reinstall I figured I'd ask the officall ubuntu people.
[10:04] <ericP> i just tried to post a workaround to the nvidia-settings issue on askubuntu but they don't permit '+'s in the local-part of an RFC 2822 addr-spec. (naughty naughty)
[10:06] <llutz> NictraSavios: from mount man-page, they aren't valid for ntfs, but for ntfs-3g it seems. sorry, i'm not very versed with ntfs at all. best to try and see if it works
[10:07] <NictraSavios> llutz, Which is more current? ntfs or ntfs-3g?
[10:07] <bumbar> can i use different torrent clients on each os (ubuntu, windows) and keep progress?
[10:08] <llutz> NictraSavios: i don't know
[10:08] <llutz> NictraSavios: ntfs is kernel, ntfs-3g some additional stuff
[10:08] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | NictraSavios
[10:09] <NictraSavios> Got it working with ntfs-3g
[10:10] <NictraSavios> bumbar, Depends on the client, but as long as they both download to the same directory, each will check whats on disk. (This may cause issues, and will mean that torrents spend a few minutes scanning every time you reboot)
[10:11] <NictraSavios> bumbar, Just make sure its the same torrent on both clients - or else you'll really cause problems.
[10:12] <bumbar> NictraSavios, cheers
[10:16] <koiu> hello
[10:16] <koiu> someone knows how to customize the ubuntu installer?
[10:18] <NictraSavios> !remaster | koiu
[10:21] <NictraSavios> Should I be worred about this message: (gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:24042): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory This likely means that your installation is broken. ?
[10:22] <ChineseXym5366> happy new year for all
[10:22] <ChineseXym5366> :)
[10:36] <koiu> I want to customize the ubuntu installer so that the username generation does not show up, as I have made a custom distro with remastersys, with user already configured, so the things one enters it the uder generation dialog get ignored anyways. Is there an easy way to do this without hacking around in python code?
[10:40] <Xentinel> Have any of you tried this? I watch a full screen HTML5 video in chromium or firefox, and when I return to unity desktop, the side and top bar won't refresh by themselves, they just look like the last of what was shown in the video
[10:45] <k1l_> !away > fl_0
[10:53] <Shikieiki_> what is !away?
[10:53] <geirha> koiu: Perhaps try #ubuntu-installer
[10:54] <DJones> Shikieiki_: It prompts the bot to ask people not to use noisy away messages
[10:57] <optirun> Hello, I've got a fresh install of Ubuntu with an nVidia 740M Hybrid (Optimus) card. I installed the x-edgers ppa, and then install nvidia-319, nvidia-319-settings and nvidia-prime, it also installed nvidia-331 as a dependency. After I rebooted, lightdm does not come up and I get "System is running in low graphics mode", and cannot seem to fix it.
[11:00] <optirun> I am currently running irssi from tty1, so I can't really send pictures,  but if you need any details just tell me what commands you need. I would like to get my desktop running with nVidia.
[11:03] <k1l_> optirun: can you pastbin (use pastbinit) dmesg?
[11:03] <samir_> hi, problem with kdenstudio, big lags during transitions, effects...? hp 8460p i7 4gb ram
[11:10] <optirun>  k1l_ Um, not sure how from a tty
[11:12] <k1l_> !pastebinit | optirun
[11:12] <masterfluo> hello
[11:12] <masterfluo> good morning
[11:13] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843221
[11:13] <masterfluo> need some help :)
[11:13] <optirun> That is /var/log/dmesg
[11:13] <subhojit777> I can ssh (telnet as well) from local to a remote server, but cannot ssh (telnet as well) from a remote machine to another remote machine. What may be the problem? Where should I check
[11:13] <optirun> !ask | masterfluo
[11:14] <masterfluo> how to instal adobe flash player from the store?
[11:15] <masterfluo> geting this message Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[11:15] <color_fish> action
[11:16] <k1l_> masterfluo: install flashplugin-installer
[11:16] <k1l_> optirun: hmm, i am not familiar with hybrid video cards. i dont see a error so far.
[11:17] <optirun> k1l_: Was there anything else I needed to do besides install drivers?
[11:17] <neonlight>  
[11:18] <optirun> Would blacklisting nouveau do anything?
[11:19] <chandru> Hi
[11:19] <chandru> Hi,
[11:19] <chandru> Am chandru. I have installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS server edition in HP Prolient ML350e Gen8 servver. In that I have installed VMware with windows 7. But am unable to get the screen resolution of 1920 x 1080. Kindly help us to rectify the problem.
[11:19] <chandru> We installed ubuntu server edition. after that manually installed Desktop by using the command
[11:19] <chandru> "apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop". In that getting maximum resolution as 1600 x 900. Am using 21.5 inch monitor.
[11:19] <FloodBot1> chandru: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:19] <nitin> hey kimi
[11:20] <chandru> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843244/
[11:22] <optirun> I deleted xorg.conf, and now lightdm works. I'm not sure if its using the nvidia or if the desktop will work though.
[11:22] <optirun> ....And the mouse won't move. Dangit.
[11:23] <optirun> Okay, I logged it by navigating via keyboard... I have a black screen, but I'll see if it loads.
[11:25] <optirun> Nope... no desktop. Black screen.
[11:26] <eutheria> how do i bring up the grub menu these days?
[11:27] <optirun> eutheria: Hold shift while booting
[11:27] <horsesCanFly> optirun, you want to run the two cards or just nvidia?
[11:27] <eutheria> thanks
[11:28] <eutheria> optirun: that doesn't seem to work
[11:28] <optirun> horsesCanFly: I can't just run the Nvidia (It isn't presented as a VGA device, only a 3D device - I can send lspci if you need to know). So I'd like to run both through nvidia-prime
[11:28] <optirun> eutheria: Huh... they must have changed it. I personally don't know then
[11:29] <eutheria> optirun: i thought it was ctrl
[11:29] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843289/
[11:29] <optirun> eutheria: I've always used shift :P.
[11:29] <DJones> eutheria: Its Left shift
[11:29] <optirun> I pasted dmesg.
[11:30] <horsesCanFly> optirun, I have the same card, presented as a 3D device as well. And I'm running only nvidia. But I don't run ubuntu.
[11:30] <DJones> eutheria: You may have to keep tapping the left shift during boot rather than just holding the key down
[11:30] <eutheria> i tried that too
[11:30] <eutheria> i am just going to use a rescue cd
[11:31] <chandru> Hi
[11:32] <optirun> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev ff)
[11:32] <chandru> Am chandru. I have installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS server edition in HP Prolient ML350e Gen8 servver. In that I have installed VMware with windows 7. But am unable to get the screen resolution of 1920 x 1080. Kindly help us to rectify the problem.
[11:32] <chandru> We installed ubuntu server edition. after that manually installed Desktop by using the command
[11:32] <chandru> "apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop". In that getting maximum resolution as 1600 x 900. Am using 21.5 inch monitor.
[11:32] <optirun> The above is my LSPCI output greped for '3D\|VGA' (And then tr -d '\n' to keep it on one line)
[11:33] <optirun> horsesCanFly: You have a
[11:33] <optirun> horsesCanFly: Opps, hit enter by acccident - I was going to say - you have a 740M Optimus?
[11:33] <Rory> chandru: Are you having issues setting your resolution in Windows, or in Ubuntu?
[11:34] <horsesCanFly> optirun, I do since like 4 days I did buy a new laptop. I had problems with it to and I decided to run only nvidia.
[11:34] <optirun> chandru: This may be a silly question, but are you sure that your monitor supports 1920x1080 ?
[11:34] <optirun> horsesCanFly: Well, I guess its better than nothing. How?
[11:34] <horsesCanFly> optirun, http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/319.23/README/randr14.html
[11:34] <sabestion> hi all
[11:34] <eutheria> yay for rescue cd
[11:35] <optirun> optirun: I'm stuck on a tty... I can't really open links.
[11:36] <horsesCanFly> optirun, probably you have just to create a xorg.conf with those details. And the line whre it says busyid you must put 1:0:0
[11:36] <optirun> horsesCanFly: I can't see it - like I said, I can't open links.
[11:37] <horsesCanFly> optirun, I don't know how to paste this here. It's a xorg.conf file
[11:37] <horsesCanFly> optirun, you can't move to tty2 and install links or something?
[11:38] <optirun> horsesCanFly: Oh, links! I forgot about that. (I used to use ArchLinux on a CLI only system. Its been a few years... haha)
[11:38] <horsesCanFly> optirun, haha that's what I'm running for 5 years....
[11:39] <optirun> horsesCanFly: It was great while I was in highschool, but once life got busy well.. I couldn't waste time fixing it. Anyway, will those instructions work for the 331 driver?
[11:39] <optirun> 319 installs 331 as a depedency
[11:40] <horsesCanFly> optirun, I think so, only trying. Became worse is impossible :P
[11:41] <horsesCanFly> optirun, honestly I don't waste much time fixing it. I almost don't have to do anything. Only now because I had to install everuthing on a new computer. But now all runs great. I can be lazy again
[11:43] <chenqisu123> happy new year everyone.
[11:43] <optirun> horsesCanFly: Using a TTY-only without a multiplexer is a pain in the behind.
[11:43] <horsesCanFly> optirun, haha it is. Don't forget that when it says busyid you have to put the id of your card which is 1:0:0
[11:44] <daftykins> *busid
[11:44] <daftykins> :D
[11:44] <horsesCanFly> that xD
[11:46] <masterfluo> Thanks k1l_
[11:46] <horsesCanFly> optirun, to be honest I'm "waiting" too see if I find any problems with nvidia. I had an ati before and I have to say. Never gave me any problems.
[11:47] <optirun> horsesCanFly: I've had endless problems with ATI's with an old girlfriend. I spent hours trying to get get laptop working well.
[11:49] <horsesCanFly> optirun, I guess I'm one of the lucky guys. But my card become legacy :\. Was an hd4***
[11:51] <optirun> Well, that made it worse. Now lightdm wont work
[11:52] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843360/
[11:52] <optirun> The above is my xorg.conf
[11:53] <daftykins> pretty sure you don't want a xorg.conf with Bumblebee?
[11:53] <daftykins> eh nm maybe i have no clue
[11:54] <horsesCanFly> optirun, you forget this? xrandr --setprovideroutputsource modesetting NVIDIA-0 $ xrandr --auto
[11:54] <optirun> horsesCanFly: Yes. Haha
[11:55] <horsesCanFly> optirun, :D
[11:55] <horsesCanFly> optirun, don't ask me how to put before lightdm. No idea xD. I don't use a login manager
[11:55] <optirun> I get two messages of "can't open display"
[11:56] <optirun> daftykins: No bumblebee. nvidia-prime
[11:57] <Lyonnais784> Hi
[11:57] <Lyonnais784> I need help for my GRUB. Anyone can help me please ?
[11:57] <optirun> !ask | Lyonnais784
[11:57] <horsesCanFly> optirun, I saw your xorg.conf. You have more things than myself xD. I didn't use nvidia-config or something. Maybe that's the problem
[11:58] <daftykins> optirun: oh, sorry
[11:58] <glitsj16> optirun: what version of ubuntu are you running the nvidia 331.38 on? that's the version from trusty ..
[11:58] <optirun> horsesCanFly: I just added in things for keyboard and mouse -  which shouldn't relate to the display errors.
[11:58] <optirun> glitsj16: 13.10 with xedgers ppa enabled
[11:58] <horsesCanFly> optirun, but in the section screen you have things related to monitor in intel. Maybe is that. I don't know
[11:59] <optirun> horsesCanFly: That's just what it says to put it there on the site you sent, I actually have no clue what any of it does.
[12:00] <horsesCanFly> optirun, the site I gave you the xorg is very diferent
[12:00] <eLBati> does anybody can explain this http://pastie.org/8681910 or this http://pastie.org/8681951 ?
[12:00] <optirun> horsesCanFly: Let me double check, I may have messed up then
[12:01] <horsesCanFly> optirun, this is my xorg http://pastebin.com/JejFb9b8
[12:01] <Lyonnais784> Hi. Sorry for my bad english. I had dual-boot Ubuntu/W8 on my laptop. All were OK. But when I took the W8.1 update, my laptop boot automaticly on W8.1. I had 2 boot-repaire but I boot always on W8.1. My seconde Boot-repaire got me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843352/   Thanks
[12:02] <horsesCanFly> optirun, also you have a error on busID. Copy my xorg. The busID is equal to yours
[12:03] <glitsj16> optirun: i think you need to make sure you only have one nvidia driver installed before any xorg.conf change will be effective, that is if you still have both installed
[12:03] <optirun> glitsj16: 319 installs 331 as a dependency. I tried to only install 319. Should I purge all and try just 331?
[12:04] <glitsj16> optirun: yes
[12:04] <glitsj16> optirun: also purge bumblebee and install nvidia-prime
[12:04] <optirun> glitsj16: Never had bumblee be in the first place.
[12:05] <glitsj16> optirun: just making sure it's gone, one less thing to worry about
[12:06] <optirun> horsesCanFly: I can't wget it - I get HTML code. And I can't seem to copy/paste it from links.
[12:06] <glitsj16> optirun: that's a serious bug if the 319 pulls in the 331, no wonder your machine is confused
[12:07] <glitsj16> optirun: can you paste output from .. lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A 2 .. please, so we can confirm a few things
[12:07] <optirun> horsesCanFly: I got it.
[12:07] <optirun> glitsj16: will that flood the channel?
[12:07] <glitsj16> optirun: yes, do you have pastebinit installed?
[12:08] <horsesCanFly> optirun, it worked?
[12:08] <optirun> This is output of lspci greped to VGA|3D:
[12:08] <optirun> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev ff)
[12:08] <glitsj16> optirun: yes i saw that, we need a few extra lines of info to see what drivers are in use
[12:08] <sunmoon> hi all, does anyone have any experience with Genymotion?
[12:09] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843440/
[12:09] <optirun> Above is output from the command you sent me.
[12:10] <Lyonnais784> Hi. Sorry for my bad english. I had dual-boot Ubuntu/W8 on my laptop. All were OK. But when I took the W8.1 update, my laptop boot automaticly on W8.1. I had 2 boot-repaire but I boot always on W8.1. My seconde Boot-repaire got me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843352/   Thanks
[12:11] <glitsj16> optirun: ok, that doesn't show *any* nvidia driver in use currently, we need to expand the same command to 3 instead of 2 at the end (# of lines outputted) .. please do another paste if you don't mind
[12:11] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843444/
[12:11] <optirun> glitsj16: I used 4, just in case. (-A 4)
[12:12] <glitsj16> optirun: thanks
[12:12] <glitsj16> we won't go higher than 666
[12:12] <glitsj16> :p
[12:14] <optirun> I did modify the command to include the 3D controler. An important detail of optimus is that the nvidia card isn't presented as a valid VGA device.
[12:14] <glitsj16> optirun: okay, you should purge all things nvidia and install only the 331 when that is finished, so we can be sure the nvidia dkms modules are only seeing the 331
[12:14] <glitsj16> optirun: yes we might need that info later on
[12:14] <optirun> glitsj16: Installing 331 now.
[12:15] <optirun> Done, should I reboot?
[12:15] <glitsj16> optirun: let's check 2 things before you do perhaps
[12:15] <optirun> glitsj16: Alright
[12:16] <glitsj16> optirun: please output .. sudo dkms status .. and .. ls -lh /etc/modprobe.d
[12:16] <glitsj16> optirun: also .. lsmod | grep nvidia
[12:17] <optirun> horsesCanFly: I tried what you said and now I'm back to lowgraphics mode at lightdm
[12:17] <glitsj16> optirun: did you also install nvidia-prime as well?
[12:17] <optirun> glitsj16: Yup
[12:18] <horsesCanFly> optirun, ehhh weird
[12:18] <glitsj16> optirun: i think what horsesCanFly supplied is very good info, but that will only work once the correct driver is working, a combo deal if you like
[12:18] <optirun> glitsj16: And if the correct driver works, then I probably wont need his info since it will render without
[12:19] <glitsj16> optirun: likely, especially with nvidia-prime in the mix
[12:19] <optirun> Removing xorg.conf allows lightdm to load, but causes blackscreen upon entering the desktop.
[12:19] <horsesCanFly> optirun, or that or it will use the intel by default
[12:20] <optirun> horsesCanFly: It technically should use intel by default. Everything show go through the intel card, only using the gpu when nessacary. Thats how optimus works :P.
[12:20] <horsesCanFly> optirun, honestly what is weird is you without a xorg everything should work but with intel
[12:20] <hendricius> linux newb question :P. i just bought a new laptop, put ubuntu on it. the wifi driver crashes every few seconds.
[12:21] <horsesCanFly> optirun, haha I know. But the support in linux is not evry good yet do I decide to run only the nvidia card :P
[12:21] <optirun> optirun: Maybe my backlight is just dark? They keys to increase it don't work (They did before) - but I could try adding the kernel params that made them work on my other laptops.
[12:21] <glitsj16> optirun: horsesCanFly: i think nvidia-prime will take care of the i915
[12:22] <hendricius> I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/411475/problem-with-the-intel-wireless-7260-driver
[12:22] <hendricius> the person suggests to do something with modprobe. I guess that enables a kernel module?
[12:22] <glitsj16> optirun: the backlight=vendor param?
[12:22] <hendricius> now, how do i see that kernel module was properly loaded?
[12:23] <optirun> glitsj16: Yup
[12:24] <glitsj16> optirun: reboot at will .. we'll see what might be needed after a trial reboot
[12:24] <optirun> Alright - Rebooting now.
[12:25] <vishnuavenu> hi
[12:26] <Teozac> hello
[12:27] <vishnuavenu> hi any one help me with this....??? my front headphone line in is damaged but mic is still working ... can i redirect the output to mic
[12:28] <optirun> After reboot: Mouse won't work at lightdm, lightdm works - blackscreen after loggin in to unity
[12:28] <optirun> Bassically... no change.
[12:28] <glitsj16> optirun: okay, pastebin .. sudo dkms status please
[12:29] <vishnuavenu> anyone???? pls
[12:30] <optirun> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[12:30] <optirun> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[12:30] <optirun> Whoops. Looks like the /exec for irssi option failed out. One sec.
[12:30] <glitsj16> optirun: no problem
[12:31] <lacrymology> My computer died in the middle of a release update, it looks like the sources have been changed, but the packages not updated yet
[12:31] <lacrymology> what can I do?
[12:31] <optirun> Hold on a sec... I never installed bumbleebee, yet bbswitch was in my kernel.
[12:31] <optirun> Purging and seeing if that does anything.
[12:32] <daftykins> lacrymology: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:32] <glitsj16> optirun: that w/could be one cause yes, odd that it is still there, but sowas the 319 pulling in the 331
[12:33] <daftykins> lacrymology: or re-run the upgrade utility with "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[12:33] <optirun> No change -
[12:33] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843533/
[12:34] <glitsj16> optirun: the .. sudo dkms status .. command should confirm if there is bumblebee leftovers besides regular driver module
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: boot to root recovery and run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[12:34] <glitsj16> thanks
[12:34] <optirun> Be right back, going to make a cup of coffee.
[12:35] <daftykins> i'm nursing mine already
[12:35] <daftykins> mm-mmm
[12:35] <glitsj16> optirun: looks good, no sight of bumblebee in dkms .. sure, we'll need to get a close look at this
[12:36] <optirun> glitsj16: Alright, back. I've got plenty of time
[12:37] <glitsj16> optirun: good, could you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[12:38] <glitsj16> optirun: did you see that bbswitch in lsmod?
[12:38] <optirun> glitsj16: bbswitch was still in lsmod. I'll rm mod and try again - right after pasting xorg.0
[12:38] <glitsj16> optirun: yes good idea
[12:39] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843559/
[12:39] <akire> hola
[12:39] <optirun> No change. Blackscreen on login.
[12:40] <daftykins> is prime not meant to run with X.org 1.15 and newer?
[12:40] <glitsj16> optirun: yes the log shows no compatible NVIDIA X driver found..
[12:40] <glitsj16> line 189 of the paste
[12:40] <optirun> daftykins: It shoudln't - It was built for newer xorgs as a much better replacement for bumbleebee
[12:41] <daftykins> yeah, i just thought an article i'd read was referring to 1.15 and newer
[12:41] <daftykins> nm :)
[12:41] <optirun> glitsj16: Now that's weird. Even nvidia themsleves say 331 is for 740M
[12:41] <glitsj16> optirun: we need to rebuild the dkms module to see what exactly happened
[12:41] <daftykins> did you download it from the site rather than use a packaged version?
[12:41] <glitsj16> optirun: yes that card should fly
[12:41] <optirun> True. My Xorg is 1.14.5
[12:42] <optirun> But I'm on xedgers - I don't think a newer one exists for ubuntu.
[12:42] <glitsj16> optirun: i don't think so no, not on saucy
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: why are you on xedgers?
[12:43] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: For nvidia 319. 740M needs 319 or above.
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: its in the repos
[12:43] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Should I ppa-purge and see if that makes a difference?
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: I would. the ppa should only be used if you require it for specific features
[12:44] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: optirun mentioned that the 319 pulled in the 331 as a dependency .. never saw that before
[12:45] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: o.O  that could be a bug with the packages in the ppa. should not happen
[12:45] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: indeed, i haven't advised optirun yet to check/try to confirm that
[12:46] <optirun> Purging x-edgers.
[12:46] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: whats the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[12:46] <optirun> I'm about to purge all nvidia packages, so It will output nothing. After downgrading and purging the ppa I'd rather a fresh start
[12:47] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: you using ppa-purge?
[12:47] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Yes.
[12:48] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: cool. that will purge the ppa, but you'll be downgraded to the equiv repo versions. can you please still give the output so we can see what was installed
[12:48] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Alright
[12:48] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: is this 12.04 or 13.10 btw?
[12:48] <optirun> 13.10
[12:48] <optirun> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[12:49] <optirun> Your command returned nothing
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ok. so no items installed
[12:49] <optirun> 319-updates or just 319?
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> just 319
[12:50] <optirun> Installing now.
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: are you looking to use bumblebee or nvidia-prime?
[12:51] <lacrymology> I liked the do-release-upgrdae solution, thanks daftykins
[12:51] <optirun> prime definitely. Bumblee is far too much hastle for what I do. I'd have to opti-run way too much.
[12:51] <daftykins> lacrymology: is it running and resuming where it left off?
[12:51] <optirun> Wow... using irssi without spell check ... sorry for the appauling sentences.
[12:51] <lacrymology> daftykins: it's running apt-get update apparently
[12:52] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843611/
[12:52] <optirun> Your command now outputs the above.
[12:52] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ok.what are you now getting after a reboot?
[12:53] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: optirun: control file of the 319 deb from xorg-edgers does pull in 331 --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843612/ ..
[12:53] <optirun> I'll reboot now - Be right back.
[12:54] <Teozac> how can i change the font?
[12:54] <Teozac> I'm not fond over how chrome or firefox looks
[12:54] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: i guess their intention is to force an upgrade of 319 to 331, they are edgers after all :P
[12:55] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: lol, i don't mind edges .. unless they target below the waste :p
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> lol
[12:55] <glitsj16> where were the days that nvidia drivers updated once a year .. nostalgia strikes
[12:56] <optirun> After reboot - There was a change... my mouse showed for about 5 seconds, and I was able to move it, then once lightdm loaded fully... it was gone. After loggin it, blackscreen with mouse, mouse disappeared after 1.5 seconds.
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: its just funny now that 12.04 has 331 and 13.10 doesn't :P
[12:57] <lacrymology> daftykins: it looks like it's doing the right thing, on the command line, though, no GUI
[12:57] <lacrymology> daftykins: I'm ok with that, just saying
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ok. get open a terminal and we'll see whats happening
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: you got pastebinit installed?
[12:57] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: all good info though, at least the channel can advise on what not to do
[12:57] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Yup, I've been using it with the /exec -o option.
[12:58] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: I've got tty1 and tty2 open as usually, tty7 runs the display.
[12:58] <optirun> dkms status output:
[12:58] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: can you: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log && dmesg | pastebinit
[12:58] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843633/
[12:59] <optirun> Xorg.o.log:
[12:59] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843634/
[12:59] <optirun> and dmesg:
[12:59] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843636/
[13:00] <glitsj16> Teozac: funny enough there's no real GUI as far as i know to change font size system-wide .. you'll need gnome-tweak-tool or similar to do it
[13:00] <optirun> Also, just incase, lsmod
[13:00] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843641/
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, not happy with the (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initiate mode change.
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> kernel modules loading ok
[13:02] <lnx2> wiki news: http://thehackernews.com/2014/01/mediawiki-remote-code-execution.html
[13:02] <optirun> !fud | lnx2
[13:03] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep 'nvidia\|nouveau' | pastebinit
[13:03] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843650/
[13:03] <kkkkk> ANybody here who has worked with clonezilla SE
[13:04] <kkkkk> i want clonezilla to automatically assign IP's 192.168.x.x
[13:04] <kkkkk> to my client machines, but while setting up, it assigned IP's ranging frm 172.168. 233.*
[13:05] <kkkkk> at that time i was connected to internet and it was IP of my 3G Modem
[13:05] <optirun> kkkkk: Isn't the newer clonezilla based on Debian?
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ok. seems to be some extraneous modprobe.d entries from the previous install that never got purged propperly
[13:05] <kkkkk> i installed it , apt-get install drbl
[13:06] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Alright, how do I get rid of them
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d | pastebinit
[13:06] <kkkkk> optirun: i want to reset all the settings
[13:06] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843676/
[13:06] <kkkkk> optirun: i also tried  sudo drblpush -i
[13:07] <kkkkk> but after few questions it gave me error: Please enter the client hostname prefix:
[13:07] <kkkkk> This prefix is used to automatically create hostname for clients. If you want to overwrite some or all automatically created hostnames, press Ctrl-C to quit this program now, edit /etc/drbl/client-ip-hostname, then run this program again.
[13:07] <kkkkk> [ubuntu]
[13:07] <kkkkk> Set the client hostname prefix as ubuntu
[13:07] <kkkkk> ------------------------------------------------------
[13:07] <kkkkk> You did NOT setup any Internet network setting for the network cards for clients (such as the IP address of eth1, eth2...), or something wrong!
[13:07] <FloodBot1> kkkkk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <kkkkk> We can NOT continue...
[13:08] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf && pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-319_hybrid.conf && pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[13:08] <optirun> kkkkk: I would check to see if your version is Ubuntu or Debian based. Or find out if clone zilla has their own offical support group.
[13:09] <kkkkk> optirun: thanks, how to check, whether version is ubuntu based or debian based
[13:10] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843696/
[13:10] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843698/
[13:10] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843699/
[13:10] <optirun> kkkkk: Look on the clonezilla downloads page. You might be asking in the wrong place is all.
[13:10] <optirun> kkkkk: This is the channel for offical ubuntu afterall.
[13:11] <kkkkk> optirun: thanks but i thought, someone has used it here on ubuntu, so that i could get the same help
[13:12] <glitsj16> kkkkk: cat /etc/issue will tell you
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: so 2 files "installed by nvidia_319" but definately aint the case. so bes thing is to purge back to nouveau. clear it all, then bring it back in.
[13:12] <kkkkk> since 1773 people are in the room , there are some chances that i could get instant help
[13:12] <optirun> kkkkk: Yeah, but this channel isn't for that. (If I'm wrong someone correct me) - this channel is for offical ubuntu support.
[13:12] <kiki67100> Hello everybody
[13:12] <ikonia> optirun: you are correct, this custom spin is not supported
[13:12] <kkkkk> i am using 12.04.3 LTS
[13:13] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: so sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ?
[13:13] <kiki67100> I want to know how can I redirect all outgoing trafic from lo ( dst port 3306 ) to eth0 interface to a external ip
[13:13] <kiki67100> it's possible ?
[13:13] <ikonia> kiki67100: you're using a custom spin
[13:13] <ikonia> kiki67100: sorry, not you
[13:13] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-319 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings-319
[13:13] <ikonia> kkkkk: you're using a custom spin
[13:13] <kiki67100> I want to redirect all localhost mysql to external server
[13:13] <ikonia> kiki67100: that seems unwise
[13:13] <ikonia> kiki67100: it would be better to point the application at the remote server directly
[13:14] <kiki67100> ikonia: I know the risk but it's more faster
[13:14] <kiki67100> to do that with iptables
[13:14] <ikonia> it's certainly not faster
[13:14] <kiki67100> because it's temporary
[13:14] <kkkkk> ikonia: no, i am using ubuntu 12.04.3  output of /etc/issue
[13:14] <ikonia> if anything it will be slower due to the overhead
[13:14] <kiki67100> 1h-2h
[13:14] <ikonia> kkkkk: "you customized the distro and created a respin" - that is a custom distro
[13:14] <kiki67100> ikonia: faster for me i know it's not faster for the network and kernel
[13:15] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf && sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-319_hybrid.conf
[13:15] <kkkkk> ikonia: and installed DRBL on it, now i want to reset it, but not able to reset
[13:15] <ikonia> kkkkk: you are using a custom spin - please stop asking for help here
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: also: pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/dkms.conf
[13:16] <kkkkk> ikonia: how could you say that, i am using a custom spin
[13:16] <ikonia> kkkkk: because you told us earlier
[13:16] <kiki67100> ikonia: it's possible ?
[13:16] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843724/
[13:16] <ikonia> kiki67100: it is possible, but it's a terrible idea
[13:16] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Done
[13:16] <kkkkk> ikonia: i installed clonezilla server on ubuntu, does it mean that i am using a custom spin
[13:16] <ikonia> kiki67100: with iptables you can point it around anywhre you wnat
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/dkms.conf
[13:17] <ikonia> kiki67100: you customized ubuntu and made a custom spin with remastersys - that means it's your own spin and your own support
[13:17] <kiki67100> ikonia: i know is terrible
[13:17] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Done
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ok. reboot and see if you get back to intel/nouveau
[13:17] <optirun> rebooting now
[13:17] <kkkkk> ikonia: i told that i am using clonezilla SE and anybody have ever used ??
[13:18] <kkkkk> i think clonezilla is a application software
[13:18] <kkkkk> correct me if i am wrong
[13:18] <ikonia> 13:22 < kkkkkkkk> hi, all , i did some customisation to ubuntu and then created a bootable ISO image, using Remastersys
[13:18] <ikonia> kkkkk: that is your OWN words
[13:18] <ikonia> kkkkk: you are using your own custom spin
[13:19] <kkkkk> ikonia: i told it to you, today??
[13:20] <kkkkk> ikonia: have i said the same it you today??
[13:21] <optirun> No change. Mouse still goes away, blackscreen going into desktop
[13:21] <kkkkk> ikonia: and reinstallation of a OS is just a matter of minutes
[13:21] <kkkkk> okay
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: using unity?
[13:21] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Gnome shell (It worked fine before installed nvidia drivers)
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: is the same happening for the guest account?
[13:22] <jitesh> hi
[13:22] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: It seems to be
[13:22] <JoFo> Hello
[13:23] <JoFo> Does anybody know whether there’s a MinGw directory for Code::Blocks on Ubuntu ?
[13:23] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: I have unity installed along side. (I was also testing to see if it would load eailer, but I not recently - I just tried with the same results as the shell)
[13:23] <optirun> I also can't use my mouse at lightdm... that's annoying.
[13:24] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ok. thats a global issue then. pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:25] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843755/
[13:25] <horsesCanFly> optirun, was afk for a little. How it's going?
[13:25] <optirun> horsesCanFly: Still working on it... :(
[13:26] <horsesCanFly> optirun, ouch
[13:26] <ahsan> q nullspeed
[13:27] <optirun> If this information helps at all, Its a Toshiba Satilite P-50A (I forget the model number, but its the one with the "E" in it)
[13:28] <ahsan> Hello, This is test posting from terminal.
[13:29] <optirun> !test | ahsan
[13:30] <bobq> test
[13:31] <JITESH> hiiiiiii
[13:32] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: whats the output: dpkg --get-selections | grep ubuntu-drivers-common
[13:32] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843783/
[13:32] <optirun> Installed
[13:33] <akki2200> Hi m using xubuntu and now cant boot into it
[13:33] <optirun> !xubuntu | akki2200
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ok. not seeing anything specific thats could explain why the server is broken
[13:34] <akki2200> So i can ask for help here right?
[13:34] <akki2200> The error is
[13:34] <akki2200> Wn-block(0,0) com: swapper/0 tainted:G
[13:34] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Maybe the ppa-purge broke it?
[13:35] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: can you: dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[13:35] <neko> Hi, i am trying to run on my Linux 13.04 game Age of Wulin with Wine, problem is exactly this: this game have launcher and is it not working without launcher. Launcher works good but after clicking Play button the game will not start, what should i do? is it in wine config or i have just bad luck?
[13:35] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: more the xedgers broke it. Most likely overwrote some set of configs
[13:35] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843794/
[13:36] <optirun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843796/
[13:37] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Maybe a fresh install is my best bet?
[13:38] <Metamorphosis>  how can i find the model of hardwares i have? for example i want to know which graphic card i'm using. brand and model.also for motherboard,cpu etc
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: just gonna trawl thru the syslog first
[13:39] <Ben64> Metamorphosis: lspci and/or lshw
[13:41] <steviedon> Metamorphosis: if you want a lot of detail on your system and dont mind installing a small app there is i-nex
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: ok. not seeing anything there either. So at this stage a reinstall would be the best course of action. Now, here's the thing. you can also choose to install 12.04 if you want nvidia-331 with nvidia-prime. or with 13.10 there's the 319 driver.
[13:41] <Metamorphosis> Ben64,  i need to install windows xp on this computer but i have no idea which drivers to download and where from. i'm using xubuntu 13.10
[13:42] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: I'm going to try reinstalling mesa and a few other things first
[13:42] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Which would you reccomend?
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: 12.04 is inherently more stable and you do get the option of the later driver
[13:43] <Metamorphosis> steviedon thanks alot
[13:43] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Alright, I only have a 13.10 disk handy, is there anyway to download and burn the disk from a tty?
[13:44] <optirun> Correction, how to burn the disk. I can get the download
[13:44] <kiki67100> i ask again, it's possible to redirect outgoin trafic from my localhost to localhost in destination port 3306, to external ip ?
[13:44] <kiki67100> ( redirection lo interface )
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> optirun: wget from releases.ubuntu.com and burn with woden. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[13:45] <darius93> anyone know why im getting http://screencloud.net/v/6r1P when trying to install nginx?
[13:45] <optirun> hitsujiTMO: Alright thanks! I gotta run some errands but I'll be back latee
[13:45] <manikanta> hello
[13:45] <manikanta> what are main advantages between fedora and ubuntu ?
[13:45] <trijntje_> !best
[13:46] <llutz> kiki67100: "ssh [-p port] -f *hostname* -L 3305:127.0.0.1:3306 -N "           then connect "mysql -h 127.0.0.1 -P3305 -u username ...."
[13:46] <LucidGuy> dhcpd question.  Is it wise to set ip range of lets say 192.168.1-254 and then fixed/reseved IP hosts within that range?  Or should I set a smaller dynamic range and leave/configure my fixed hosts outside of the dynamic range?
[13:46] <llutz> kiki67100: that will connect you to mysql on hostname:3306
[13:47] <llutz> LucidGuy: i'd set them outside to avoid irritation
[13:47] <steviedon> LucidGuy: Theres nothing stopping the dhcpd giving out one of you fixed addresses then you will end up with an IP conflict which is not good :)
[13:48] <LucidGuy> steviedon, why would dhcpd give out a fixed address if its configed for a specific host within its config?
[13:49] <LucidGuy> Is it that simple it doesnt avoid them?
[13:49] <llutz> LucidGuy: if the dhcp-server has a setting for reserved IPs it shouldn't lease them double
[13:50] <steviedon> LucidGuy: as llutz said if its in the dhcpd config it won't give it out twice
[13:50] <steviedon> LucidGuy: I meant if you just set the whole range in the dhcpd and then set up a machine localy with a fixed address the dhcpd wont know about it
[13:51] <LucidGuy> steviedon, understood
[13:51] <LucidGuy> thanks
[13:55] <glitsj16> darius93: nginx version 1.5.9-1 .. did you install that from a PPA?
[14:00] <darius93> yes glitsj16
[14:02] <glitsj16> darius93: what's wrong with the version from regular repos? just asking .. nginx is a dependency package that pulls in either nginx-full or nginx-light, it shouldn't have a /usr/sbin/nginx of its own, that's why you get the error
[14:04] <SECCRET> !seen Gandi
[14:05] <glitsj16> darius93: i'm not saying it is bad to have a PPA, but well, it might be broken .. although you can force dpkg to overwrite and stop it complaining, it shouldn't be happening
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> darius93  a PPA is an unscreened external software source, potentially dangerous to your system
[14:07] <glitsj16> darius93: you can .. sudo apt-get install nginx-full (or -light) .. that should keep nginx package uninstalled, but i'm with MonkeyDust .. if you don't need that version for anything special, stay with the repo version
[14:08] <darius93> glitsj16 mainly because the one in the builtin repo isnt up to date and the PCI scans shows an exploit that was found. MonkeyDust I understand that but also its from nginx ppa, not from another ppa
[14:09] <glitsj16> darius93: if there was a security issue with the ubuntu repo version, that would get an update i think, whatever the version numbers involved
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO>  darius93 what version of nginx was it again?
[14:10] <kiki67100> llutz: good solution! thanks
[14:11] <hitsujiTMO> darius93: it seems you've also installed the mainline/dev build
[14:11] <skeuomorf> guys, I keep getting "Failed to open connection to "session" message bus: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11" inside irssi every once in a while
[14:12] <darius93> Yes hitsujiTMO I did installed the mainline build
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> darius93: if you're worried about pci compliance you should be installing the stable release
[14:12] <darius93> and the version that had the exploit was 1.4.4 and 1.5.7 (hinch why i was on the latest)
[14:14] <hitsujiTMO> darius93: so ... the version that had the exploit were 1.4.4 ... which is why you didn;t install 1.4.1 from the repo? that just doesn't make sense
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> darius93: whats the cve for the exploit?
[14:15] <darius93> Well I didnt know if 1.4.1 had the exploit or not but I didnt want to take that chance at the moment when the pci scan came back.
[14:17] <darius93> hitsujiTMO: CVE-2013-4547
[14:17] <smokerboy> hi guys
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> darius93: thats fixed in 1.4.4
[14:19] <darius93> hitsujiTMO: hmm when i tested it i was on 1.4.4 and it gave me that, even after calling in a false positive report. Is 1.4.4 in the repo by default or do i have to use the stable ppa of nginx?
[14:19] <xip> Hi I wrote yesterday about installing Ubuntu on a seperate partition, but Ubuntu doesn't see that there is Windows on the machine
[14:19] <TJ-> darius93: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-4547.html
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> darius93: 1.4.4 is in the stable ppa. that tool reported a false positive. you should reconsider the reliability of that tool.
[14:21] <Vivekananda> I have 4 workspaces defined on 12.04 ie 2x2 . I do --> send to workspace 2 and the window just disappears. It does not show on trying alt+tab or on the side launcher bar. Why does this happen
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> darius93: if you're worried about pci compliance the worst thing you can do is installed an unvetted version of the software
[14:22] <darius93> well im about to go on back to 1.4.4 and run another scan.
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> darius93: well, ok, maybe not as bad as installing a 10 year old copy thats not receiving updates, but you get the idea :P
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  i guess there's an option to "show current screen only" or so
[14:24] <darius93> Yea lol. Thanks for the info though
[14:24] <Vivekananda> MonkeyDust: where do I look for that option. ? CCsm ? o
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  workspace switcher > preferences
[14:28] <Linnak> Do you know good ple where I can find free sound samples for system sounds? Except gnome and kde look.org?
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> Linnak  ubuntu-art.org
[14:31] <Vivekananda> MonkeyDust: where can I find the workspace switcher. Since the time the locate options have changed to the hud view I get compeltely lost sometimes coz I dont know how to locate stuff. Earlier I would click on ubuntu menu and could see all things there
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  i found it in ubuntu classic
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  what DE are you in?
[14:33] <Vivekananda> ubuntu gnome
[14:33] <Vivekananda> 3d I guess
[14:33] <Vivekananda> with the hud and all
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> that's unity
[14:33] <Vivekananda> unity yep
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  ok, i'm in unity now, too, moment
[14:35] <pip__> I'm having some samba permission problems, could it be because the hard drive the folders are on is ntfs?
[14:37] <compdoc> pip__, you use the drive to dual boot windows?
[14:37] <pip__> nope, just a data drive
[14:37] <pip__> I want to share to windows too
[14:37] <pip__> thought that might make life easier...
[14:38] <cornernote> hello
[14:38] <pip__> at this point I'd be happy to be able to access the folders from another rig or 2
[14:38] <daftykins> pip__: yes that's going to give you a very hard time
[14:38] <pip__> daftykins: awesome, looks like a format for me then
[14:39] <pip__> daftykins: :D
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: have you tried recreating the share on an ext4 partition to see if it is caused by the ntfs filesystem?
[14:39] <compdoc> pip__, you havent provided enough info to know what the problem is, but it doesnt need to be ntfs to share with windows
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  can't find it in Unity, sorry
[14:39] <pip__> compdoc: I kinda realise that now :)  It's a new project, so I'm stumbling round a bit
[14:40] <compdoc> pip__, I do a lot of that too
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> MonkeyDust: Vivekananda what are ye looking for?
[14:40] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: I haven't, but it looks like I'm going to try ext 4 tonight
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: might be for the best anyway
[14:41] <pip__> compdoc: :D
[14:41] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: I have this problem -- <Vivekananda> I have 4 workspaces defined on 12.04 ie 2x2 . I do --> send to workspace 2 and the window just disappears. It does not show on trying alt+tab or on the side launcher bar. Why does this happen
[14:42] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: surely it can't be any more painful than it is now
[14:43] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: I may even just copy over one file instead of gigabytes of stuff to see if it works first
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: does it show with super + tab?
[14:43] <utomox> Anyone had problems in the past installing git on Ubuntu Server 13.04?
[14:44] <pip__> & it all seemed to be going so well, lol
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> utomox  there's also #ubuntu-server, and do'nt start your question with "anyone", please
[14:45] <utomox> MonkeyDust, sorry
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> utomox: Raring is EOL now and no longer supported
[14:45] <utomox> Anyways - When I run sudo apt-get install git I get this
[14:45] <utomox> http://i.imgur.com/qNie7vk.png
[14:45] <utomox> ActionPa1snip, oh. I installed it on a vps when it was 1 day old and now it's not supported D:
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> ah, an EOL release, i wasnt aware
[14:46] <utomox> Oh, no wait
[14:46] <utomox> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 x64
[14:47] <pip__> I also expect I've not set up smb.conf correctly or properly
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: alt + tab switches within a single workspace. """ or on the side launcher bar""" unfortunately i'm getting a different behaviour here on 13.10. it does show on launcher
[14:47] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: ? what should I look for
[14:47] <Vivekananda> with super tab ?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: please don't lie.apache 2.2 is not in 13.10
[14:47] <utomox> What?
[14:47] <ActionPa1snip> utomox: I'd do a clean install or Saucy or Precise. Then update to Trusty in APril (or install pre-release Trusty)
[14:47] <ActionPa1snip> !info apache
[14:48] <Vivekananda> alt+tab works fine if I have not done --> move this windows to workspace2. but after doing that it is just lost !
[14:48] <Vivekananda> cannot see it anywhere
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> !info apache2
[14:48] <ActionPa1snip> MonkeyDust: is ubottu sleeping?
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: inless is this after an upgrade?
[14:48] <utomox> hitsujiTMO, yes, i've ran sudo apt-get update, added git repo, etc
[14:48] <ActionPa1snip> utomox: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:48] <Vivekananda> super+tab just shows the side launcher hitsujiTMO
[14:49] <utomox> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> utomox: so not 13.04 ;)
[14:49] <utomox> I corrected myself.
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: when did you upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10?
[14:49] <utomox> hitsujiTMO, sorry, i thought you meant apt-get updates. This was a fresh install of 13.10, I thought it was 13.04, sorry
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: can't be a fresh install of 13.10
[14:50] <utomox> Why?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> ActionPa1snip  she's responding with /msg, ok
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: because you install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[14:51] <thoonai> Im having issues with my nginx. though I startet the php-fcgi instance, it refuses the connection for the webserver
[14:51] <utomox> hitsujiTMO, http://i.imgur.com/jWUV56t.png
[14:51] <DW-10297> has anyone seen ubuntu 13.04 power down when you type 'reboot'
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> !info libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> !info libapache2-mod-auth-mysql raring
[14:52] <pip__> next question: advice on taking a chance with trusty now to avoid a reinstall in april?
[14:52] <pip__> this'll only be a home server  -nothing mission critical
[14:52] <Careocyn> Hey guys, I just read about the AMD Radeon DPM, and I was wondering a few things: the first one being, I'm have [Radeon HD 7500M/7600M], is this supported (i read newer then hd 2000 but i have no idea how this numbering works on graphic cards) ?
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: as you can see libapache2-mod-auth-mysql does not exist in 13.10 as its incompatible with apache 2.4
[14:53] <utomox> So what you're saying is, I can't install git on 13.10?
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: no. what i'm asking is what version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:53] <utomox> 13.10
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: and this is not from an upgrade from 13.04?
[14:54] <utomox> No
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: then what ppas are you using?
[14:55] <utomox> hitsujiTMO, after the previous command, it told me to run sudo apt-get -f install
[14:55] <utomox> so I did so and got this - http://i.imgur.com/bTaWYnw.png
[14:55] <thoonai> Im having issues with my nginx. though I startet the php-fcgi instance, it refuses the connection for the webserver
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: ok. are you installing git from a ppa?
[14:56] <utomox> yes
[14:56] <utomox> ppa:git-core/ppa
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: ok. ppas are unsupported. if that ppa requires libapache2-mod-auth-mysql then its not compatible with 13.10 AT ALL as libapache2-mod-auth-mysql is not available in 13.10
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> utomox: use the version of git in the repo
[14:57] <utomox> I removed libapache when I ran apt-get -f instal
[14:57] <utomox> then reran apt-get install git
[14:57] <utomox> and it worked
[14:58] <Careocyn> anyone? AMD Radion DPM
[15:01] <nicknicknick> I am having trouble logging in..
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: what kind of trouble exactly?
[15:03] <nicknicknick> I can get to the login screen, but when I actually type my password and login, it just 'stops'.
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: do you get kicked back to lightdm or does it just "stop" ?
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: lightdm being the login screen that is
[15:04] <nicknicknick> tIt's a mostly blank screen with a working cursor.
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> can you open a terminal with: ctrl + alt + t          ?
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: ^
[15:04] <nicknicknick> I'll try, hold on.
[15:05] <asman> Hi All, How do I delete a rule in Iptables?
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> !iptables
[15:07] <nicknicknick> No, ctrl+alt+t doesn't work, but ctrl+alt+f1 does
[15:08] <nicknicknick> Hello?
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: in the term, login and: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: does the same behaviour exist for the guest user?
[15:08] <nicknicknick> Yes.
[15:09] <helmut_> hi
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: so guest also doesn't work? ok. what were you doing before this started happening? what version of ubuntu? i presume this is with unity right?
[15:10] <nicknicknick> It gave me a cryptic error.
[15:10] <nicknicknick> Yep. 13.10
[15:10] <nicknicknick> I remember installing and unistalling a bunch of software.
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME <- gave you a cryptic error? if so what is the error?
[15:11] <nicknicknick> I can't paste it becuase it's another computer, and pretty long.
[15:12] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME 2>&1 | pastebinit
[15:12] <nicknicknick> Oka,y, hold on a sec.
[15:12] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: that should produce a url, copy the url here
[15:12] <nicknicknick> I know.
[15:14] <nicknicknick> It gave me the same cyrpic error when trying to install pastebinit
[15:14] <nicknicknick> *cryptic
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: whats the gist of the error?
[15:15] <nicknicknick> It fail to read or write something.
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: do you have curl installed?
[15:15] <nicknicknick> yes
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME 2>&1 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: now that i'm beginning to suspect a RO/failding hdd also: dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: and: cat /var/log/syslog | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[15:18] <nicknicknick> I have no idea how to ascess the paste.
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: just type the urls here
[15:18] <nicknicknick> nvm.
[15:19] <nicknicknick> I don't see a url..
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: from any of the 3 commands?
[15:21] <nicknicknick> sprunge/HIhY
[15:21] <nicknicknick> Finnally worked.
[15:22] <nicknicknick> Just remember to add a .us
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: hard drive is failing. stop using it
[15:22] <nicknicknick> It's a laptop, I can't replace it easily...
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: it's no more. it must be replaced
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> the hdd that is
[15:23] <nicknicknick> Well crap...
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: what brand of laptop?
[15:23] <nicknicknick> Acer.
[15:23] <nicknicknick> I've had it for years.
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: it should be easy enough to replace
[15:24] <pip__> thanks for the help guys, cy'all soon
[15:24] <nicknicknick> Where could I find a way to copy my hardrive before it's completely toast?
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: you should create an image with ddrescue, then get your data off the image
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[15:25] <nicknicknick> Can I specify which folders and partitions?
[15:25] <nicknicknick> Thanks.
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: you can specify whick partition. then mount the image as if its a real drive to get the data
[15:27] <nicknicknick> Ok.
[15:28] <nicknicknick> Thanks, bye!
[15:36] <alumno__> Hola
[15:36] <alumno__> C:
[15:36] <alumno__> Como va?
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> !es | alumno__
[15:37] <alumno__> hola
[15:37] <alumno__> o.O
[15:37] <alumno__> O.o
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> !away > CyberJacob|Away
[15:46] <tykim> hello
[15:47] <tykim> im not able to connect ubuntu to internet
[15:47] <tykim> would anyone help me?
[15:47] <tykim> im trying a wired connection
[15:47] <nearst> tykim, how u online now ? from ubuntu ?
[15:47] <tykim> nope i have a laptop
[15:47] <tykim> also
[15:48] <tykim> i just installed ubuntu on my desktop i also did few months ago but i didnt have any problem
[15:48] <tykim> before I had wi-fi
[15:48] <tykim> now im trying with the ethernet but it doesnt work
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet
[15:49] <tykim> i tried to set a static ip
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: whats the values in [XXXX:YYYY]
[15:49] <tykim> sorry how can i write the line?
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: write that into the terminal
[15:50] <tykim> i cant copy
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: just tell me the value of the bit in the format: [XXXX:YYYY]
[15:52] <tykim> 1022 1604
[15:52] <nearst> its working on windows ? try to set static ?
[15:52] <tykim> it works in windows without any problem
[15:53] <tykim> i tried static but im not sure i did correctly
[15:53] <tykim> i checked my laptop and did similar
[15:54] <nearst> probably marvell gigabit ?
[15:54] <tykim> so i put 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.0
[15:54] <tykim> .1
[15:54] <tykim> and dns 192.168.63.1
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: why not use dhcp?
[15:55] <tykim> cause it doesnt work
[15:55] <nearst> try dhclient eth0 ?
[15:56] <tykim> how can i do it?
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: ifconfig -a                  is there more than one device showing there?
[15:56] <nearst> open terminal ?
[15:57] <tykim> eth0 and lo
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: is eth0 receiving packets?
[15:57] <tykim> 0
[15:58] <tykim> i set the dhcp and the icon is searching for line
[15:58] <tykim> like a phone wireless
[15:58] <tykim> but it doesnt get any
[15:59] <tykim> i tried to search all forum and  youtube
[15:59] <TJ-> tykim: "sudo ethtool eth0 | grep  'Link detected'  "
[16:00] <tykim> there are other people with this problem but no solutions
[16:00] <tykim> | <<  how can i write it?
[16:00] <Paulyoung> Happy Lunar New Year,toyear is year of horse.I hope you can full of happiness "on horse" ,have money "on horse."
[16:00] <Paulyoung> Paul Young Amoy Fujian China.Year of JiaWu First Moon  the first 0:00.
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: whats the output of: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[16:01] <nearst> tykim, usually it under the backspace
[16:01] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: tykim: Did you identify the network adapter? The PCI ID I saw earlier was for the AMD chipset power driver?
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: just reasking for it now :P
[16:01] <TJ-> tykim: The vertical bar "|" is often on the "\" key
[16:02] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: :) I thought I'd missed the real ID!
[16:03] <tykim> it says sudo ethtool command not found
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: cat /etc/issue
[16:03] <kirill> русские есть?
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> !ru | kirill
[16:04] <tykim> ubuntu 12.4.3
[16:04] <TJ-> tykim: We still need the PCI ID of the network device
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: whats the output of: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[16:07] <apb1963>  LibreOffice crashes about every 30 seconds or so... what can I do to figure out why?
[16:07] <tykim> lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o is it correct?
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: launch it from the terminal
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: whats the output of: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'                             you need the '\[....:....\]' bit too
[16:10] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: good idea.... thank you
[16:10] <tykim> \ i cant find this is my stupid korean keyboard
[16:10] <dsafd> i made it?
[16:10] <mman> im doing a bash script and im trying to do a ls of a directory. When I run the bash it says that the command ls does not exists. How to do that?
[16:10] <Linnak> Do you know good ple where I can find free sound samples for system sounds? Except gnome and kde look.org?
[16:10] <tortue_> Good morning to every body.  I have a HP LaserJet P2035, I have connected on an ubuntu system. The installation succeed perfectly but when I print nothing happen
[16:11] <dsafd> exit
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: then just and tell us the [XXXX:YYYY] bit: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet
[16:11] <tykim> 10de:03ef
[16:12] <tortue_> anybody could help me with my printer?
[16:12] <Linnak> Do you know where I can find free sound samples for system sounds? Except gnome and kde look.org?
[16:12] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Nvidia :)
[16:12] <Linnak> Sorry for the dupe
[16:12] <ikonia> Linnak: google ?
[16:12] <Linnak> Didn't help
[16:13] <tykim> maybe the installation didnt work really well whe they told me to remove the cd and press enter it didnt restart and there are few lines of some problem when i start ubuntu
[16:13] <Linnak> Or I didn't know the key words: System sound sample.......
[16:13] <apb1963> mman: Use the full path for ls
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: i'm disturbed at the thought that there;s still machines out there with them.
[16:13] <jhutchins> ,pciid 10de:03ef
[16:13] <mman> apb1963: I tried but it doesnt work either
[16:14] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: I wonder if its the MSI issue?
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: not aware of that one
[16:14] <apb1963> mman: How do you know it doesn't work?
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> Linnak  i adviced ubuntu-art earlier
[16:15] <jhutchins> tykim:  'MCP61 Ethernet' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'forcedeth', 'snd-hda-intel'
[16:15] <apb1963> mman: does it work when you type it from the terminal?
[16:15] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: I'm checking out the Precise kernel source so I can check the supported IDs (don't have a 12.04 install handy to check, right now)
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> tykim: wha kernel are you using? uname -r
[16:15] <apb1963> mman: how are you executing the script?
[16:15] <mman> apb1963: it still tells me ls does no exists
[16:16] <rustuptwist> Im running 12.04.03 but want to make it edubuntu. I have the edubuntu disk. Is it better to use Terminal to update/alter or the disc?
[16:16] <Linnak> Sorry I had to go to buy a drill machine and I can't read now what was an hour ago
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: i'm guessing support ended in 3.2 as there seems to be some able to get it working on 12.04
[16:16] <tykim> 3.8.0-29
[16:16] <mman> apb1963: ok, now it worked :) thanks man
[16:16] <tykim> 'MCP61 Ethernet' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'forcedeth', 'snd-hda-intel' what should i do?
[16:17] <Linnak> xchat doesn't store that much data
[16:17] <TJ-> tykim: Where did you install that kernel from? The version number doesn't look like it is an Ubuntu kernel
[16:17] <tykim> i download from the ubuntu website
[16:18] <rustuptwist> !update
[16:18] <tykim> i cant upgrade
[16:18] <TJ-> tykim: Does it end with "-generic" or some other word, after the numbers?
[16:18] <tykim> yeah sorry
[16:18] <tykim> there is generic
[16:18] <TJ-> tykim: We need to identify the exact version so we can check on the driver support
[16:19] <tykim> 3.8.0-29-generic
[16:19] <tykim> nvidia and linux dont work good together?
[16:19] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  is there a simple command to update ubuntu to edubuntu via terminal?
[16:20] <TJ-> rustuptwist: I'm not entirely sure; I'd expect there to be a virtual package for it "edubuntu-desktop"
[16:21] <TJ-> tykim: Nvidia don't publish the complete specifications for their chipsets, so open-source drivers can suffer trying to work with Nvidia chipsets in some circumstances
[16:22] <daftykins> tykim: TJ- have you tried a static IP, bypassing network manager as all google results suggest, to get it talking?
[16:22] <tykim> i tried static ip but im not sure i did it correctly
[16:22] <tykim> i used the one from the laptop and change the last one
[16:23] <nearst> ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
[16:23] <tykim> dns?
[16:23] <daftykins> tykim: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.x.x netmask 255.255.255.0
[16:23] <daftykins> enter your DNS server IP / router IP in /etc/resolv.conf
[16:23] <rustuptwist> TJ-: That seemed to do the trick Waiting on download, hoping after a restart it will automagically be edubuntu :)
[16:24] <TJ-> tykim: "ifconfig eth0" then look at the last line that shows how many bytes have been received (RX) and transmitted (TX) - what numbers does that show?
[16:24] <tykim> 0
[16:24] <tykim> in the first one
[16:24] <tykim> few in the second one
[16:24] <Egypt_Man> hi all
[16:25] <Egypt_Man> wanna connect my IPHONE 4 with ubuntu . after IOS7 I cant do . any ideas?
[16:25] <daftykins> connect to do what?
[16:26] <ikonia> Egypt_Man: game over
[16:26] <TJ-> tykim: That suggests it is a driver issue. Try this: "sudo ifconfig eth0 down"   then "lsmod | grep forcedeth" ... if the number after "forcedeth" is 0, then do "sudo modprobe -r forcedeth" then, reload the module with "sudo modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0"
[16:26] <Egypt_Man> what u mean ?
[16:26] <tortue_> the ls cannot be used in a bash script
[16:26] <tykim> enter your DNS server IP / router IP in /etc/resolv.conf how can i do it?
[16:26] <ikonia> ls can be used in a bash script
[16:27] <ikonia> tykim: it should be provided by your dns provider, why do you want to over-ride it
[16:27] <daftykins> tykim: well just check if you have communication now, try pinging your router IP
[16:27] <daftykins> DNS can wait
[16:27] <tortue_> ikonia, how can it be used
[16:27] <ikonia> tortue_: exactly the same as typing it on the command line
[16:27] <daftykins> ikonia: don't jump in on that one please, it's already an ongoing convo
[16:27] <ikonia> daftykins: no problem, sorry
[16:28] <daftykins> np
[16:28] <tortue_> but it never do anything when I used it
[16:28] <Linnak> MonkeyDust, Thanks I've found some
[16:28] <ikonia> tortue_: what do you expect it to do ? how are you using it
[16:28] <mman> is there a way to know with a command which is the active network im using? I know if i do ifconfig -a I can see all the interaces and see whicone has an IP.. but is there a way to get the active MAC address?
[16:28] <tykim> i dont know i cant start a static connection without the dns
[16:28] <TJ-> tykim: Once you've done that, try reconnecting using Network Manager and DHCP
[16:28] <ikonia> mman: all mac addresses are active
[16:29] <daftykins> tykim: you don't need DNS configured to ping a network-based IP
[16:29] <tortue_> I just put it like if it were in the terminal, like any other command
[16:29] <ikonia> tortue_: and what happens....
[16:29] <TJ-> mman: Do you mean the default route? "ip route ls"
[16:29] <tortue_> nothing happens
[16:29] <ikonia> tortue_: then you are not using a script correclty.
[16:29] <ikonia> tortue_: pastebin the script for me
[16:29] <ikonia> tortue_: exactly as it is written
[16:30] <vaskozl> Could anyone else using the latest stable release of ubuntu try "xset led 1"?
[16:30] <vaskozl> it used to work for me
[16:30] <vaskozl> but now it stopped
[16:30] <vaskozl> no idea why
[16:30] <FloodBot1> vaskozl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <tortue_> wait a minute
[16:30] <vaskozl> xset led 3 still works
[16:31] <vaskozl> and turns on the scroll lock led as intended
[16:31] <mman> ikonia: what i want to do is get the interface that has an ip
[16:31] <tykim> i used forcedeth and its all blocked now
[16:31] <ikonia> mman: you can see it in ifconfig
[16:31] <ikonia> mman: the mac address is listed
[16:31] <mman> ikonia: sometimes you have eth1 and wlan0 and only one has an ip
[16:31] <tykim> thank you for the help
[16:31] <TJ-> tykim: you mean it is working?
[16:32] <mman> ikonia: yes i know :) but is there a way to get just the interface that has already an ip assigned?
[16:32] <tykim> no the pc is freezed
[16:32] <ikonia> mman: what are you REALLY trying to do
[16:32] <pascat> Hello! There's an idea for a feature I had, that I think Unity could use, perhaps as something part of Unity 8, or maybe its already underway, I have no idea what to search for if it even exists... Basically, its an idea to put 'Launcher Folders' into the Unity Launcher. You could say, create a single icon called Game(apply it whatever icon you want from a choice!) and put all your installed games and related programs there.
[16:32] <ikonia> mman: just explain what you really are trying to do and why
[16:32] <ikonia> pascat: log a feature request then
[16:32] <pascat> Is something like that already being thought, or is that something that should be suggested to some community?
[16:32] <TJ-> tykim: After which command did it freeze?
[16:33] <pascat> Where do I go to log a feature request?
[16:33] <vaskozl> tortue_: does it work?
[16:33] <ikonia> pascat: it's not driven by the community so you'll need to log a feature request to canonical/ubuntu
[16:33] <ikonia> pascat: launchpad.net
[16:33] <pascat> Thanks!
[16:33] <tykim> lsmod | grep forcedeth
[16:33] <TJ-> tykim: If the PC locked up at that point there's something badly wrong with the configuration!
[16:34] <PatrickO> Hello
[16:34] <tykim> yeah i think so
[16:34] <PatrickO> How to restrict "ps" usage so that the user only sees his own processes.
[16:34] <tykim> it might be that the file were corrupted
[16:34] <tykim> i will try to burn another dvv
[16:35] <mman> ikonia: im doing a script that sends to a server some information about the pc... hostname, mac, etc etc... but there are sometimes where you have more than one interface ex: eth1 and eth2. But i am sure only one has an IP while the other doesnt.
[16:35] <tykim> dvd
[16:35] <vaskozl> could someone using X11 please tell me if "xset led 1" and "xset -led 1" turn on/off the numlock light just as "xset led 3" turns on the scrollock?
[16:35] <vaskozl> it's not hard
[16:35] <tykim> something is really wrong
[16:35] <ikonia> mman do an arp from it's own ip / hostname
[16:35] <vaskozl> it like literally takes 5 seconds
[16:35] <tykim> witht the steambox coming out nvidia is still not giving any support to linux?
[16:36] <vaskozl> someone please?
[16:36] <apb1963> vaskozl: you're using a hyphen on the first, but not on the second... is that a typo?
[16:36] <vaskozl> apb1963: the second turns the led off
[16:36] <vaskozl> the first turns it on
[16:36] <vaskozl> or should atleast
[16:37] <vaskozl> it "xet led 3" "xset -led 3" turn on/off scroll lock just fine
[16:37] <vaskozl> it used to work until today I noticed that my capslock light wouldn't turn on using this method
[16:37] <k1l_> tykim: its giving drivers for linux. or what are you about`
[16:37] <vaskozl> apb1963: could you just type the command in and see if it works?
[16:38] <apb1963> vaskozl: same results you get
[16:38] <vaskozl> apb1963: it works only for scroll lock?
[16:38] <apb1963> yes
[16:38] <webfox> Hello guys!
[16:38] <mman> ikonia i still have to do a search for my own ip.. i found this i think i can modify it a bit: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-find-out-the-ip-address-assigned-to-eth0-and-display-ip-only/
[16:38] <vaskozl> im 100% sure it worked for all of them before
[16:38] <tykim> i tried to restart ubuntu but again it;\
[16:38] <vaskozl> I guess it broke when I updated it
[16:38] <mman> ikonia: thanks anyways :)
[16:39] <tykim> it's not able to restart
[16:39] <vaskozl> apb1963: thx a million, you saved me a lot of time
[16:39] <apb1963> vaskozl:  no idea about it... I just press the key when I want caps lock... which is pretty rare
[16:39] <ikonia> mman: of course you don't
[16:39] <tykim> just the loading screen stays there forever
[16:39] <ikonia> mman: get your own ip from the hostname, grep the ip from the ip / arp / ifconfig command, grep for the mac, done
[16:39] <webfox> I am facing some issue when I try to use php mail() function as showed at there : https://gist.github.com/rafaelbellini/8712257. Could someone help me figure what could possibly that be please?
[16:41] <mman> ikonia: yup! that might work!! thanks man
[16:42] <ikonia> webfox: your machine can't connect to the google hosts, it's that simple
[16:48] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> is there a more updated version of ppa:upubuntu-com/xampp  ?  My computer can't see to connect to it.
[16:48] <ikonia> Ryu_Fitzgerald: you should consider not using xammp
[16:48] <ikonia> Ryu_Fitzgerald: a proper LAMP stack will serve most people better
[16:48] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> what should i consider using?
[16:48] <onizu> hi
[16:48] <ikonia> Ryu_Fitzgerald: a LAMP stack using the native packages provided by the distro for php/mysql/apache
[16:49] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> so i'd have to find myadmin somewhere else i assume
[16:49] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> or does it include it?
[16:50] <TJ-> Ryu_Fitzgerald: "apt-cache search myadmin"
[16:50] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> okay, i'll try that out.
[16:53] <vishnuavenu> guy help me with this.... my front headphone port is damaged.. now i wanted to redirect the output to my mic port....
[16:53] <ikonia> vishnuavenu: mic is input, not output
[16:53] <vishnuavenu> yaaaa
[16:53] <vishnuavenu> sry
[16:54] <vishnuavenu> any solution
[16:54] <ActionPa1snip> vishnuavenu: I believe omgubuntu has a guide on this
[16:55] <vishnuavenu> on windows realtek audio manager ... it automatically map mic port to headphone port
[16:57] <webfox> ikonia: and how do I solve that?
[17:00] <wolfy1339> how do i add a cron entry for my user?
[17:00] <Pici> wolfy1339: crontab -e
[17:05] <ActionPa1snip> wolfy1339: gnome-schedule is a GUI for cron but learning CRONtab is a good thing
[17:06] <wolfy1339> ActionPa1snip, it's a server, so no gui there... and yes it is a good thing
[17:07] <k1l_> !away | Pebbe
[17:08] <wolfy1339> i recently uninstalled vim and now when i go to edit cron for my user it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6844810/
[17:09] <ikonia> webfox: set EDITOR to a valid editor
[17:10] <Pici> wolfy1339: ^ set EDITOR to a valid editor
[17:10] <webfox> ikonia: where do I do that?
[17:10] <wolfy1339> how do i do that?
[17:12] <subhojit777> Hello all, I can ssh a remote server from local machine, when I am trying to ssh from another remote machine (after ssh-ing from local to this machine) I get connection timed out on port 22. Can anyone please tell me what might be the problem. Its been two days and I am out of my wits
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> subhojit777  install openssh-server and -client on both machines
[17:13] <hari_> bhuygb
[17:13] <hari_> hjyio
[17:13] <subhojit777> MonkeyDust, yes its installed on both machines
[17:13] <whiskers75> hari_: and hdhksadkh to you too.
[17:13] <rustuptwist> TJ-: As the edubuntu is downloading and unpacking itself. I see the HP tools partition is mounted. Why would that happen?
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> subhojit777  what's the output of     sudo ufw status
[17:14] <TJ-> rustuptwist: where is it mounted? /media/.... ?
[17:15] <ChallengerSS> Hey
[17:15] <rustuptwist> TJ-: Maybe mounted is not the right word. It is visible on the left side below the other app icons
[17:16] <ChallengerSS> I'm sorry for the off topic chatter
[17:16] <ChallengerSS> but I think you can help me
[17:16] <ActionPa1snip> subhojit777: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:16] <ChallengerSS> I was looking to get into a channel that I've been banned in
[17:16] <Myrtti> ChallengerSS: talk to the ops
[17:16] <subhojit777> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6844839/
[17:16] <ActionPa1snip> ChallengerSS: try #freenode
[17:16] <diablo_> hej
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> ChallengerSS  banned for no reason, of course?
[17:17] <diablo_> :)
[17:17] <Myrtti> ActionPa1snip: freenode staff won't intervene into channel matters, so suggesting #freenode doesn't really work
[17:17] <kalekip1> Is it bad to use Ubuntu 13.04 while not being a developer?
[17:17] <azeem_> need help?
[17:17] <azeem_> i need help sorry
[17:17] <ActionPa1snip> kalekip1: yes as you will get no updates either, or community support
[17:17] <ChallengerSS> Myrtti: let staff decide that
[17:17] <k1l> Myrtti: its more topic to #freenode then to make 20 lines in a ubuntu support channel
[17:17] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: what is your issue?
[17:17] <Myrtti> k1l: this is true
[17:17] <Myrtti> ChallengerSS: I just did
[17:17] <azeem_> java oracle 7 how do i install it
[17:17] <subhojit777> ActionPa1snip, `Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l` on both remote and host machine
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> subhojit777  ok, for testing purposes, disable the firewall     sudo ufw disable
[17:18] <kalekip1> ActionPa1snip: I don't like 13.10 since I upgraded from 13.04. Should I just use Ubuntu 12?
[17:18] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: WebUpd8 has a PPA for that
[17:18] <ActionPa1snip> kalekip1: i would, its supported long after 13.10 is EOL
[17:18] <subhojit777> MonkeyDust, and after that do I need to restart server
[17:18] <azeem_> i didnt got u
[17:18] <azeem_> sorry noob
[17:18] <vfw> kalekip1: 12.04 is LTS
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> subhojit777  no
[17:18] <kalekip1> ActionPa1snip: OK, thanks.
[17:18] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: nt used google?
[17:19] <vfw> !lts | kalekip1
[17:19] <azeem_> no used command like sudo apt-...
[17:19] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: yes but you need a 3rd party package source first
[17:19] <azeem_> how do i get that bro plz
[17:19] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: try searching for something like:  webupd8 ppa java
[17:19] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: try it, search the web, see what you find....
[17:19] <azeem_> tnx trying please support me friend
[17:19] <grendal_prime> ok so say im building a server right now...is it going to be easyer to go from 13.10 - 14.04  or will it be easyer to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 ?
[17:20] <kalekip1> vfw: Thanks, I have read about it before though. I'll just reinstall Ubuntu. I'm currently dual booting with Windows 7. What happens with GRUB if I remove Ubuntu?
[17:20] <grendal_prime>  because 14.04 will be out in a month or so correct?
[17:20] <ActionPa1snip> grendal_prime: in the 4th month.
[17:20] <azeem_> i got a link
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> grendal_prime  LTS is always preferrable for a server
[17:20] <vfw> kalekip1: You don't have to remove it, just do the install.
[17:20] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: so not so noob....yeah
[17:21] <azeem_> hmm.yeah got a link
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: instead of staning on the noob status, try searching when people give you phrases you are unfamiliar with and you will learn
[17:21] <vfw> kalekip1: The grub boot loader will be re-installed.
[17:21] <azeem_> says oracle jdk 7
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: it will give java in your web browser
[17:21] <kalekip1> vfw: And 13.10 will be completely removed?
[17:21] <subhojit777> MonkeyDust, disabled firewall in host machine, still getting connection timed out. Any idea? :(
[17:21] <grendal_prime> MonkeyDust, i prefer it most of the time for desktops as well (this is alway ans argument ) but i need my desktops and servers to be the same release .
[17:22] <azeem_> hmm tnx
[17:22] <vfw> kalekip1: Yes.  You tell the install app to use those partitions and they will be re-formatted (erased) and the new install will be written to them.
[17:22] <grendal_prime> ok well thanks anyway i was just trying to figer on what would be the quickest safest upgrade in a few months from now
[17:22] <subhojit777> MonkeyDust, ports 22 are opened in both machines.. Dont get why cant I connect them
[17:22] <azeem_> got a clear layout of installing java
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> subhojit777  yes, looks odd
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> azeem_: magic huh
[17:23] <ChallengerSS> Hello
[17:23] <vfw> subhojit777: Can you ping the other one?
[17:23] <grendal_prime> is ssh server installed subhojit777?
[17:23] <ChallengerSS> Sorry for off topic
[17:23] <azeem_> tnx pal
[17:23] <ChallengerSS> I have a ubuntu installation
[17:23] <vfw> subhojit777: Do you have openssh-server installed on it?
[17:23] <subhojit777> vfw, yes
[17:23] <ChallengerSS> And it seems the ops in a channel here ban that version of ubuntu
[17:23] <ChallengerSS> How do I fix that?
[17:23] <azeem_> really majic
[17:23] <grendal_prime> because that is not installed by default any more.
[17:23] <grendal_prime> ssh-server that is
[17:23] <subhojit777> vfw, shall I remove them and install them again?
[17:23] <vfw> subhojit777: Use nmap to see.
[17:23] <vfw> subhojit777: no, try nmap
[17:23] <ikonia> ChallengerSS: what distro are you using
[17:24] <vfw> subhojit777: nmap -P 22 ###.###.#.#
[17:24] <kalekip1> vfw: Yes,  that seems obvious. Thanks.
[17:24] <subhojit777> vfw, nmap... never used it.. how does it works?
[17:24] <grendal_prime> well i would make sure it was installed subhojit777 if it already is it will just tell you so...
[17:24] <grendal_prime> sudo apt-get install ssh  i think will also get the server as well
[17:24] <azeem_> woh...sorry but i got a problem rising here
[17:24] <vfw> subhojit777: p not P  sorry
[17:24] <ikonia> it's not ssh
[17:24] <ikonia> it's openssh-server
[17:24] <vfw> subhojit777: nmap -p 22 ###.###.#.#
[17:24] <k1l> ChallengerSS: again: that is not a topic in here. ask the ops why you were banned and how to reveal that ban or ask in #freenode for guideance regarding that ban
[17:24] <azeem_> its the same thing that I did before....
[17:25] <grendal_prime> ok  wasnt sure...on the desktop now i think ssh will grab the server as well..
[17:25] <azeem_> hey u there..?
[17:25] <subhojit777> vfw, ok I am trying it
[17:25] <ChallengerSS> k1l ikonia: I tried speaking to the ops and they all removed me from the ops channel
[17:25] <ChallengerSS> k1l ikonia can you speak to Metaleer from ##physics for me, please?
[17:25] <ikonia> ChallengerSS: do you need help with ubuntu yes/no
[17:26] <ChallengerSS> I really need that channel
[17:26] <vfw> subhojit777: If it is listening for ssh connections, it will say "22/tcp open  ssh"
[17:26] <grendal_prime> ikonia, what i do know is..i have forgot to install it (oldschool use to install it bydefault)  and have had to drive back to jobsites and physically touch the box again...
[17:26] <ikonia> grendal_prime: what ?
[17:26] <grendal_prime> ssh
[17:27] <ikonia> grendal_prime: what are you talking about - the correct command is "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" why are saying anything else ?
[17:27] <subhojit777> vfw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6844925/ I am getting this
[17:27] <grendal_prime> forgot to install it...you know build a base install and then...just droped into the clients network,
[17:27] <grendal_prime> ok...got it..
[17:27] <grendal_prime> im building a server now ill test ssh to see if it works
[17:27] <ikonia> grendal_prime: what you've forgot to do in the past has no relevence to this conversation
[17:27] <grendal_prime> RIGHT
[17:28] <nearst> :)
[17:29] <vfw> subhojit777: nmap -PN -p22  ###.###.#.#
[17:29] <vfw> subhojit777: But I would guess that you need to go to it and install openssh-sever
[17:30] <onizu> hi, i have dual language key-entry setup but when i press super+space, it doesn't toggle :(
[17:30] <onizu> super = win key
[17:30] <rustuptwist_> Created another user account and upon logging in everything froze. Can't do anything. What's force restart keys
[17:31] <azeem_> can i get a help...?
[17:31] <vfw> subhojit777: Is it a new install?  (openssh-server is not installed by default.)
[17:32] <vfw> rustuptwist_: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[17:32] <BetaSoul> On 13.04, is there a way to force the binaries to only use the integrated card, and not both?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> BetaSoul  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[17:33] <vfw> BetaSoul: Are you talking about video card?
[17:33] <BetaSoul> vfw: yes.
[17:33] <BetaSoul> vfw: been wrestling with it for a few days. VGA switcheroo is no help. The stock ATI drivers crash compiz.
[17:33] <BetaSoul> and unity.
[17:33] <BetaSoul> Yet the card is supposed to be supported.
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: 13.04 is end of life. what gpus do you have?
[17:34] <jluc> In ubuntu 13.10 with unity with 2 screens (left big screen with launcher expands laptop screen on the right), the launchbar hides but doesnt reappear automatically when mouse comes close to border of screen. Sometimes the shadow of the launchbar appears, but very rarely the launcher appears. I have to press SUPER key. Is there a way to fix that ?
[17:34] <BetaSoul> ATI Radeon Mobility HD 5650(madison). The one with the integrated intel chip.
[17:34] <rustuptwist_> How can I add Spanish language via terminal so new user account can be in Spanish
[17:34] <hamilcar_> '
[17:35] <BetaSoul> jluc, try pushing harder with the mouse. The tolerance for appear is set too low
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: if its possible to disable one, you;d find it in the bios
[17:35] <vfw> BetaSoul: Is this a new install?
[17:36] <rustuptwist_> !language support
[17:36] <BetaSoul> vfw, Yes.
[17:36] <rabbitear_sdf> hey, I'll be right  back
[17:36] <vfw> BetaSoul: Upgrade to 13.10 or reinstall.
[17:36] <rustuptwist_> !languages
[17:36] <BetaSoul> vfw, 13.10 doesn't fix, nor does a re-install. I can't power down the damn ati core.
[17:37] <vfw> BetaSoul: (I don't know if that will solve the problem you are experiencing, but as pointed out earlier, 13.04 is EOL).
[17:37] <vfw> BetaSoul: Then use 12.04 (LTS)
[17:37] <jluc> yes it works BetaSoul. Quite amazing ! But that's un-natural. Is there a way to widen that sensitivity zone ?
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: have you installed fglrx?
[17:38] <BetaSoul> jluc, Yes, in settings, wallpaper, behavior(if i remeber correctly)
[17:38] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO, unity and compiz won't load, only wallpaper.
[17:38] <vfw> BetaSoul: I suppose you could blacklist the module for the other card, but I've never had to do that... so...
[17:38] <BetaSoul> Hrm.... blacklist the other card. An idea.
[17:38] <BetaSoul> But not that best.
[17:39] <jluc> Yes it works BetaSoul !! I'm greatly amazed at how simple it is to fix that. No hidden config app to install through a PPA. Thanks a lot !
[17:39] <TJ-> BetaSoul: If both kernel drivers aren't available, the vgaswitceroo driver won't activate, which might deprive you of power-saving knobs
[17:40] <vfw> BetaSoul: Why do you have the add-on card if you are not going to use it?  (Just take it out...)
[17:41] <BetaSoul> vfw, laptop.
[17:41] <vfw> O
[17:41] <BetaSoul> Yeah.
[17:41] <BetaSoul> My desktop has a nice support nvidia card. busted wifi, but find video.
[17:44] <e-head> Hey... I'm looking for a mini fanless desktop to run ubuntu.
[17:44] <e-head> anyone have any ideas?
[17:45] <vfw> e-head: HP has one... let me see.
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> e-head: ##hardware would be a better place to ask that. intel nuc's would do
[17:54] <Ntemis> hello guys
[17:55] <Ntemis> am here for a cry of help after bios update my ethx is not working
[17:55] <Ntemis> dmesg | grep eth
[17:56] <Ntemis> eth0: RTL8168evl/8111evl at 0xffffc90000652000, ed:0b:00:00:e0:00, XID 0c900800 IRQ 42
[17:56] <vfw> e-head: No, it was Lenovo Q190
[17:56] <Ntemis> IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[17:56] <vfw> e-head: http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=C6pwOIpLqUs3EFOHXsQfh4YHQAujl25oGmLnOu4sB07qvk0sIABABILZUUMKLmZb______wFgyYaAgOSkwBOgAdjHp90DyAEBqgQfT9AAGvul2CboJAUgqyO_IuHnujwmqwJdUQbYClFlaYAFkE6AB5C42CKQBwE&sig=AOD64_1MZKvHxOY8MkIsF3Q_WhMgxldERw&rct=j&q=Q190&ved=0CCkQ0Qw&adurl=http://pixel.everesttech.net/4030/cq%3Fev_sid%3D3%26ev_ln%3Dq190%26ev_crx%3D37421018024%26ev_mt%3De%26ev_n%3Dg%26ev_ltx%3D%26ev_pl%3D%26ev_pos%3D1t1%26ev_dvc%3Dc%26ev_dvm%3D%26url%3Dhttp%253A//s
[17:56] <lnx2> i dont update bios- it not good i think
[17:56] <vfw> Wow, sorry for the long URL.
[17:57] <Ntemis> sudo ifup eth0 brings
[17:57] <Ntemis> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[17:57] <Ntemis> same for eth1
[17:58] <lnx2> reboot
[17:58] <e-head> vfw: thanks!  That looks pretty cool.
[17:58] <iptable> Ntemis: you need eth0 and eth1 defined in /etc/network/interfaces, for example as iface eth0 inet dhcp
[17:59] <vfw> e-head: Yea, it is.  A friend of mine has one. (Had to search and find his email.)
[17:59] <iptable> Ntemis: if the cards are on motherboard, MAC addr could have changed due to update. Rule: do NOT update unlress you really need to.
[17:59] <e-head> thanks.
[17:59] <e-head> Do you know if it has a fan?
[17:59] <Ntemis> iptable: yeap
[17:59] <Ntemis> it changed
[17:59] <vfw> e-head: fanless I'm pretty sure.
[17:59] <Ntemis> now what?
[17:59] <e-head> that's really awesome.
[18:00] <e-head> even if it has one I'm sure they put a pretty quiet one in there.
[18:00] <iptable> Ntemis: got MAC addr defined in /etc/network/interfaces? if so, you need to change that. otherwise, reboot and check to ensure your card is still eth0/eth1. NUmber could have changed. how many interfaces HAVE you got btw?
[18:00] <vfw> e-head: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops/ideacentre/q-series/q190/
[18:01] <vfw> e-head: See my PM
[18:01] <Ntemis> iptable: how i get that?
[18:01] <iptable> Ntemis: how you get what? number of interfaces? ifconfig -a for example. or look at the back of the computer
[18:02] <iptable> Ntemis: you must know how many interfaces your computer has, surely
[18:02] <Ntemis> eth1/lo/wlan->that i use now (is a desktop :( )
[18:03] <Ntemis> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr ed:0b:00:00:e0:00
[18:03] <iptable> Ntemis: so when using wired, eth1 will not be your interface. eth0 was with old mac I am guessing.
[18:03] <Ntemis> yes
[18:03] <vfw> e-head: Data sheet: http://shop.lenovo.com/ae/en/common/pdf/Q190_DS_WW_26Sept2012_FINAL.pdf
[18:03] <Ntemis> was eth0
[18:03] <iptable> Ntemis: edit /etc/network/interfaces. look there. tell me if it has definitions for eth0/1?
[18:03] <Ntemis> no
[18:03] <Ntemis> i did
[18:03] <Ntemis> i enter them manually
[18:04] <Ntemis> ended with no network interface
[18:04] <Ntemis> after 60 seconds boot time
[18:04] <iptable> Ntemis: ifup will not bring interfaces up if they are not defined. put in there: iface eth1 inet dhcp
[18:04] <apb1963> trying to install 12.04 mini cd  as a virtualbox guest... it's hanging
[18:04] <apb1963> 00:00:12.767849 Guest Log: BIOS: Booting from CD-ROM...
[18:04] <Ntemis> i did this
[18:04] <apb1963> 00:00:13.433516 Display::handleDisplayResize(): uScreenId = 0, pvVRAM=aa2f1000 w=640 h=480 bpp=24 cbLine=0x780, flags=0x1
[18:04] <apb1963> those are the last 2 log entries
[18:04] <Ntemis> auto eth1
[18:04] <iptable> Ntemis: and just above the ifce eth1 inet dhcp line put another one that say: auto eth1
[18:04] <iptable> yes
[18:04] <Ntemis> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[18:05] <TJ-> Ntemis: udev writes permanent interface names to "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules"
[18:05] <Ntemis> these 2 lines
[18:05] <Ntemis> no go
[18:05] <iptable> Ntemis: and what TJ- said. oculd be that issue
[18:05] <Ntemis> 2 min at boo time
[18:05] <Ntemis> oh
[18:05] <Ntemis> didnt look at that solution
[18:05] <TJ-> Ntemis: If you remove the line from that file referring to "eth0" then next time the system boots it'll assign "eth0" to the first Ethernet interface
[18:06] <Ntemis> let me see whats in there
[18:06] <Ntemis> sec
[18:06] <Ntemis> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="f4:6d:04:d2:f6:79", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
[18:06] <fellayaboy1> hey can i setup ubuntu to do a pxe boot
[18:06] <Ntemis> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="ed:0b:00:00:e0:00", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1"
[18:07] <iptable> Ntemis: as soon as you define in interfaces, you can test with /etc/init.d/networking restart. no need to reboot whole machine. For udev changes, you could possibly udevadm --reload, although I recon reboot would be better.
[18:07] <Ntemis> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:11:6b:16:c3:aa", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
[18:07] <Ntemis> thats the 3 usable lines there others are #
[18:07] <Jordan_U> fellayaboy1: Yes.
[18:07] <iptable> Ntemis: remove eth0 and eth1 assignments and reboot. this will reassign eth0 to correct interface. although the MAC looks weird on it. are you sure BIOS upgrade didn't foobar it?
[18:07] <Ntemis> what i need to change?
[18:07] <Ntemis> oh
[18:07] <Ntemis> yeap i had a guess it did
[18:08] <Ntemis> flashrom is to blame maybe
[18:08] <fellayaboy1> i actually wanted to know if i can configure ubuntu to be a pxe server so that i could put iso linux images and have other clients install from network
[18:08] <e-head> hmmm... someone suggested a lenovo IdeaCentre Q190
[18:08] <iptable> doesn't look like a normal MAC. the fact the first numbers changed seems to indicate the HW changed, which it didn't
[18:08] <iptable> Ntemis: ^
[18:08] <iptable> Ntemis: I will guess it's fried. Re-flash correctly
[18:08]  * iptable goes off. time to get a life.
[18:08] <Ntemis> yes my bad i shouldnt use flashrom
[18:08] <fellayaboy1> Jordan_U how do i do that
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> fellayaboy1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[18:09] <Ntemis> fried? O.O
[18:09] <fellayaboy1> thank you hitsujith0
[18:09] <Ntemis> i did reflash from bios ->EZflash2
[18:09] <Ntemis> no fix
[18:09] <Ntemis> let me remove the eth0/1 and reboot
[18:10] <apb1963> trying to install 12.04 mini cd  as a virtualbox guest... it's hanging
[18:10] <apb1963> trying to install 12.04 mini cd  as a virtualbox guest... it's hanging
[18:10] <apb1963> 00:00:12.767849 Guest Log: BIOS: Booting from CD-ROM...
[18:10] <fellayaboy1> hitsujiTh0 im sorry for the ignorant question but would i have to install ubuntu server for pxeinstallserver to work?
[18:10] <Ntemis> ok now i left only wlan line
[18:10] <apb1963> 00:00:13.433516 Display::handleDisplayResize(): uScreenId = 0, pvVRAM=aa2f1000 w=640 h=480 bpp=24 cbLine=0x780, flags=0x1
[18:10] <Ntemis> wish me luck :)
[18:10] <apb1963> Those are the last 2 entries
[18:10] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: From the ceiling? :) That doesn't sound good. Have you given it enough RAM?
[18:11] <dexter__> yo
[18:11] <dexter__> tested all Linux distro's nothing matches ubuntu :)
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> fellayaboy1: no difference between ubuntu desktop an ubuntu server when it comes to what you can install
[18:11] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: how much is enough?  I gave it the default
[18:11] <fellayaboy1> thank you very much. yes i noticed i could just install dhcp-server thank you just wanted to make sure
[18:11] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: The default? What, 1 or 2 GB?
[18:11] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: 512
[18:12] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: I'd recommend at least 1 if not 2 GB. For a 64-bit, at least 4
[18:12] <fellayaboy1> i tried installing ubuntu via usb but i get a read/64 error -110 during boot
[18:13] <Ntemis> no go :(
[18:13] <Ntemis> i dont have wired connection still
[18:13] <TJ-> Ntemis: That'll be because the BIOS update broke the MAC address
[18:14] <TJ-> Ntemis: You'll need to manually assign a MAC to the interface, I suspect
[18:14] <Ntemis> i took a backup of the old bios with flashrom
[18:14] <Ntemis> flashrom -r oldbios.rom
[18:14] <Ntemis> will that help in anyway?
[18:15] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: 32 bits... trying 1GB... still hanging... will try 2GB but that's half of what I have installed!  XP runs with 1GB... maybe less.. I shouldn't need this much I don't think?????
[18:15] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: You... shouldn't... what's the video memory situation?
[18:15] <TJ-> Ntemis: What usually causes it, is it writes a bad MAC into the flash during programming.
[18:16] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: xp runs with 192MB!!!  video is 128MB (for both)
[18:17] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: SO MANY EXCLAMATION!!!! :)
[18:17] <TJ-> Ntemis: You can set your own MAC address using Network Manager, in the interface's connection settings, or if configuring interfaces manually, via "/etc/network/interfaces" and the "hwaddress" keyword
[18:17] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Did you try downloading another mini.iso ?
[18:17] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: I was astonished
[18:17] <Ntemis> why not fix the bios?
[18:18] <TJ-> Ntemis: If you can... sometimes downgrades are prevented.
[18:18] <Ntemis> AFUDOS /m000000000000
[18:18] <TJ-> Ntemis: I'm giving you the Linux solution, if ficing BIOS doesn't work
[18:18] <Ntemis> ;)
[18:19] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: no... used this same mini to install my currently running system (albeit using deboostrap and having had to burn a fresh cd - which k3b verified)
[18:20] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: err... meaning that I burned a CD for vbox... not to install my currently running host
[18:20] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: err... burned a mini cd for vbox.  sheesh
[18:20] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Oh! Did you try booting directly from the ISO?
[18:20] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: I thought about it... but not sure how
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Start the machine and go to the "Devices" menu, select "CD/DVD Devices," "Select a virtual...," select the mini.iso and click Open.
[18:22] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: one other difference is I capped the cpu at 50%... xp I let roam free
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Then reset the VM.
[18:22] <apb1963> oh cool
[18:28] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: no go
[18:29] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Hmmm...
[18:29] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: that's a lot of ...
[18:30] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: :) ...
[18:31] <Ntemis> TJ can you give me back what were the lines i deleted
[18:31] <Ntemis> i need the eth0 to write back my mac
[18:32] <Ntemis> TJ-: can you please type me back the eth0 mac i pasted before?
[18:32] <gordonjcp> 18:08 < Ntemis> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",  ATTR{address}=="00:11:6b:16:c3:aa", ATTR{dev_id}=="
[18:33] <Ntemis> ah thanks gordonjcp
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Ntemis: that one?
[18:33] <Ntemis> yeap it was eth0 right
[18:33] <Ntemis> 00:11:6b:16:c3:aa if this is asus mac this is it
[18:34] <Ntemis> Digital Data Communications Asia Co.,Ltd
[18:34] <Ntemis> what are they?
[18:34] <Ntemis> :(
[18:34] <fabio123> if u put the chromium chache on /tmp/cache i get rid of it when i reboot right?
[18:35] <mdh___> IJan 30 12:24:25 ssh-gateway sshd[6394]: error: bind: Address already in use Jan 30 12:24:25 ssh-gateway sshd[6394]: error: channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 30000
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> fabio123: yeps - by default atleast
[18:35] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: hmm... I Have 4 logs now... how do I tell which is most recent?  there don't seem to be dates or times??
[18:35] <mdh___> I'm getting that error when trying to use autossh to keep my SSH tunnels open, is there anything i can do?
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> mdh___: are you trying to open multiple tunnels ?
[18:36] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Check them, I guess...
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> mdh___: the error indicates port 30000 is already in use -
[18:36] <mdh___> SolarisBoy: as far as I know, I'm not trying to open multiple tunnel
[18:37] <mdh___> Is there a chance that the old connection is holding on to the port for a bit, so this happens on a reconnect?
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> mdh___: try to look at what is holding 30000 open -
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> lsof -i :30000
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> you may need to prefix with sudo if it is owned by root or such -
[18:38] <mdh___> right now there are 2 things from the user that sshes in
[18:38] <mdh___> sshd    6434 ssh-login    9u  IPv6  17979      0t0  TCP localhost:30000 (LISTEN) sshd    6434 ssh-login   10u  IPv4  17980      0t0  TCP localhost:30000 (LISTEN)
[18:39] <SolarisBoy> right so the port is in use - one of them may indicate that the process is listening - which would mean that yes you still have old processes running from before -
[18:39] <mdh___> Is there a way to release the port immediately after the ssh connection breaks, or to detect that break faster?
[18:39] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: ok it timestamped when it opened it at the top... so yeah... nothing new to be said :(  I'll post the log... maybe something will jump out at you
[18:39] <edgar_> i am new to ubuntu i have an hp laptop with 12,04
[18:40] <edgar_> should i upgrade ?
[18:40] <mdh___> SolarisBoy: right now, if the connection breaks like a few mins after a failed tunnel open, it can open successfully
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Go ahead
[18:41] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: http://ix.io/ade
[18:42] <amireldor> edgar_, it depends on the usage of the laptop, i.e. home/business/dinosaurs
[18:43] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: I'll be back in a moment
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> edgar_: upgrade .... after april when 14.04 is released
[18:44] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: ok
[18:44] <mdh___> I'm going to try to set my SSH timeout really low to see if that can close the open ports fast enough to fix this problem
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> mdh___: thats nothing to do ssh timeouts. you've a rogue instance of ssh server running that's using the port
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> mdh___: kill it then restart the sshd
[18:46] <kieppie1> hi folks
[18:46] <kieppie1> I'm running 13.10, switched to gnome shell
[18:46] <mdh___> hitsujiTMO: i've tried restarting the server, but the problem still persisted
[18:47] <kieppie1> I'm finding the power management gui incredibly limiting - any good/great alternatives available?
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> mdh___: did you kill the rogue process?
[18:49] <mdh___> hitsujiTMO: that won't really fix it as it seems the client detects ssh connection timeouts before the ssh server does, and then tries to reconnect but the old ssh process keeps the tunneling ports open
[18:49] <mdh___> hitsujiTMO: it'll happen over and over as the connection breaks and restarts
[18:50] <marcel__> kieppie1, cant you just install another power manager app?
[18:51] <kieppie1> marcel__: can't find any (other than KDE) - suggestions
[18:51] <mdh___> I think what I need to do is to have some delay in autossh to wait a bit before trying to reconnect
[18:51] <kieppie1> ?
[18:51] <marcel__> kieppie1, what are you looking for
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: I'm back.
[18:52] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: wb
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> mdh___: i don't think you know much of how tcp/ip works do you?   there isn't a process created for every connection.
[18:52] <marcel__> kieppie1, i have xfce, xubuntu desktop, power management settings are good
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> mdh___: or are you forcing the connection to use a specific port?
[18:53] <mdh___> hitsujiTMO: i'm forcing the reverse tunnel to use a specific port on the server
[18:53] <kieppie1> marcel__: GUI to control power management - set standby/hibernate on idle times, plugged in or batter, maybe option for CPU scaling, etc. something a lot more robust than what's the default. Looking @ the windows power-management system, kinda put ubuntu/linux offering to shame
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> mdh___: oh, ok i see
[18:54] <mdh___> I think I may have found an answer:  ssh option ExitOnForwardFailure to make ssh close if the tunnels don't open
[18:54] <mdh___> So it will just keep retrying until the port opens back up
[18:54] <digit_> !java
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> mdh___: sorry, i was assuming a standard connection
[18:55] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Oh, this is a VBox log. That's best taken to #vbox to look at.
[18:55] <mdh___> hitsujiTMO: no problem
[18:55] <marcel__> kieppie1, xfce has that, http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/start
[18:56] <kieppie1> marcel__: cheers - will try that
[18:56] <marcel__> kieppie1, xubuntu-desktop is a good choice to install, much cleaner than gnome, my opinion that is
[18:58] <kieppie1> marcel__: yea - I use xfce on my smaller systems (raspi, etc), but prefer the 'flash' of Gnome shell for regular desktop
[18:58] <kieppie1> KDE is totally overkill - never got the hang of it
[19:01] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: you had some other log in mind?
[19:01] <fsck> hello im trying to run an fsck on the 12.04 encrypted system partitions (best, on all of them, but the boot partition has an error). I found this shrot how-to http://serverfault.com/questions/375090/using-fsck-to-check-and-repair-luks-encrypted-disk, but i need a hint how to find the names of the volumes (dev/mapper/), so i can open, please help.
[19:01] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: I thought you might have had a crash log from BusyBox or something to show me.
[19:02] <fsck> and im running it from a 10.04 live cd, cryptsetup and lvm is installed
[19:02] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: busybox??
[19:02] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Well at least from something inside the VM
[19:02] <digit_> i suddenly have a problem accessing the google website... i get the message Cannot connect to the real www.google.com
[19:02] <digit_> can anyone helo?
[19:03] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: where should I look exactly?
[19:03] <digit_> help*
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Well in your case if the thing refuses to boot, I might try with another mini.iso (you said this was the 12.04 LTS one, why not try the 13.10 one?)
[19:04] <marcel__> digit_, try a different browser, are you able to ping anything?
[19:04] <bkfitz> Trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on Dell T5600 with NVideo K2000 and am having issues... installs ok, then reboot to log in menu, enter credentials, then it just goes into a comotosed state... any ideas?
[19:04] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: I suppose it might be worth the experiment... however I need 12.04
[19:05] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: A certain program version?
[19:05] <bkfitz> This time I'm getting a Plymouthd internal error
[19:06] <fsck> or lets say /dev/sda does not show up when I fdisk -l, what am i doing wrong?
[19:07] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[19:07] <marcel__> bkfitz, maybe try 14.04? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/alpha-2/
[19:07] <subhojit777> Hello all, I doing nmap to a remote server from my local, it says port 22/tcp opened. I am doing same nmap from another remoter server, it says port 22/tcp filtered. Why is this differnce?
[19:07] <marcel__> bkfitz, are you using the 32 or 64 bit iso?
[19:07] <bkfitz> 64bit
[19:08] <SonikkuAmerica> apb1963: Hm.
[19:08] <bkfitz> marcel__, yeah I guess I could try the alpha
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: what's the output of: lsblk
[19:08] <bkfitz> marcel__, that link is to the xumbuntu, is there another one for the regular ubuntu
[19:09] <marcel__> bkfitz, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/alpha-2/
[19:09] <siderall> Hello peoples
[19:09] <fsck> hitsujiTMO ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsblk No command 'lsblk' found, did you mean:  Command 'lslk' from package 'lslk' (universe) lsblk: command not found
[19:09] <bkfitz> marcel__, so you suspect it's a driver issue with video?  PERC?
[19:09] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: 20 minutes to d/l
[19:09] <marcel__> bkfitz, sorry i mean http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/alpha-2/
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:10] <marcel__> bkfitz, its easier to try a newer version, than to search and fix it
[19:10] <bkfitz> marcel__, ubuntu gnome?
[19:10] <bkfitz> marcel__, is that gnome3?
[19:10] <marcel__> bkfitz, dont know, i use xubuntu, see what you want at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[19:10] <fsck> hitsujiTMO im using a 10.4.3 live cd
[19:10] <bkfitz> marcel__, did I miss some news (ala a change from unity -> g3)
[19:10] <bkfitz> marcel__, 10-4 thx
[19:11] <dsprc> Im running Xubuntu and am unable to move windows down by pressing Alt+Space and then M (move) but i can move them in any other direction
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: thats EOL and unsupported. use a supported version like 12.04
[19:11] <digit_> marcel_: works with firefox but not chrome.. its an SSL Error in chrome
[19:11] <marcel__> digit_, check chrome settings, set to default,
[19:11] <fsck> hitsujiTMO the live cd i found does not boot for 12.04.3, it was 6 mb too larde for a cd, do i need to burn it to a dvd?
[19:12] <fsck> hitsujiTMO, *too large, too big
[19:12] <jluc> or install it on a booting usb ?
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: yes. it no longer fits on a cd. or use a usb
[19:14] <fsck> hitsujiTMO, before i will burn that dvd, what steps to i need to find my /dev/mapper volumes that i want to run the fsck on? do you know per chance? the tutorial i posted does nt say
[19:14] <digit_> marcel_: do you mean the Reset Browser Settings button?
[19:15] <marcel__> digit_, yeah
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: lsblk is a good way of finding. but you need a newer version for it
[19:15] <digit_> marcel_: did nothing
[19:16] <digit_> digit_: do  u need more details of the error message?
[19:16] <marcel__> digit_, you have no proxy set?
[19:16] <digit_> i mean.. marcel_:**
[19:17] <digit_> marcel_: how do i check?
[19:18] <marcel__> digit_, it seems to be a ssl error only for google.com
[19:18] <fsck> hitsujiTMO, thanks. the original problem is i couldnt boot it most times, there was an error found when i started fsck from the recovery mode screen. fsck is the best way in trying to fix that i suppose? i got error like grub recue> or Kernel panic VFS - unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) :( ^^
[19:18] <fsck> hitsujiTMO *boot from my hd i mean ....
[19:19] <digit_> marcel_: is there a fix?
[19:19] <marcel__> digit_, upgrade chrome?
[19:20] <digit_> no upgrade available, ill try reinstalling it
[19:20] <marcel__> digit_, see maybe https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/BMiTTJd5mHM
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: unknown block suggests it can see the drive. has it died?
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: and pastebin the contents of: /var/log/syslog
[19:22] <sabestion> hi all
[19:22] <sabestion> Happy Lunar New Year~
[19:24] <mayko> Eae pessoa
[19:25] <fsck> hitsujiTMO i could boot sometimes, but it hangs increasingly often now, i never did an fsck, because it didnt do at startup. what part of the dmesg do you need?
[19:26] <DJones> !br | mayko
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: the lot of dmesg if possible:   dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[19:26] <fsck> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /var/log/syslog bash: /var/log/syslog: Permission denied ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo /var/log/syslog sudo: /var/log/syslog: command not found  hitsujiTMO
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: /var/log/syslog isn't a command. its a text file
[19:27] <fsck> hitsujiTMO ok sry ^^
[19:28] <heavyammo> Is there a way to have the laptop speakers continue playing music after I connect external speakers to the audio out? I want to have both the laptop speakers playing and the external usb speaker that I connect in the same time.
[19:30] <fsck> http://pastebin.com/qsG53zhe for dmesg and syslog is http://pastebin.com/Jxpapq7D hitsujiTMO
[19:33] <pip__> Hi, I'm having trouble getting permissions right for samab file sharing.  I'm trying to look at a share on an ext4 hard drive from a different machine
[19:34] <TJ-> fsck: You've got a bad CD/DVD
[19:34] <pip__> i think I've messed up smb.conf
[19:34] <pip__> but, really I'm pretty lost
[19:34] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: it's worse than before... I don't even get a boot screen of any kind
[19:34] <ReinstallHelp> Hi, I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu without repartitioning. I have a 64gb msdos partition that I want to leave untouched. a /boot partition, and an encrypted 64gb ext4 partition that I've mounted and want to use a "/". Do I choose /dev/mapper/luks... or /dev/sda6 for "/"?
[19:35] <fsck> TJ- what do you mean?^^
[19:35] <TJ-> fsck: "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 352114"
[19:35] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: oops... spoke too soon... it seems to be doing something
[19:35] <fsck> TJ- I m running a live cd?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: don't see any errors with the drives. i'm assuming you're using a softraid right?
[19:36] <TJ-> fsck: "Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash -- maybe-ubiquity"
[19:36] <apb1963> SonikkuAmerica: I'll give it some time.  Be back in a bit.
[19:36] <fsck> hitsujiTMO whats a sofraid?
[19:36] <fsck> TJ- what do you wanna tell me?
[19:37] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: software raid?
[19:37] <fsck> hitsujiTMO yepp whats a software raid??
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: are you using a raid?
[19:38] <TJ-> fsck: If the liveCD image is damaged you can't trust the tools run from it
[19:38] <fsck> TJ- ok thanks. maybe its scratched
[19:39] <fsck> hitsujiTMO i just looked up what that stands for, but i have no idea what that is.
[19:40] <fsck> hitsujiTMO its one system drive.
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: you have 2 drives, so you've prob created a soft raid for that.      anyhow. get the the 12.04 cd up and running so we can test further
[19:42] <fsck> i have 2 internal drives, yes, would it help to disconnect that from the Sata controller? the other,system drive, is IDE
[19:43] <fsck> hitsujiTMO so i do not need to know what a sofraid is?
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: well kind of ya if you created one
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: might be best to wait till you're up and running on the 12.04 live cd so we can propperly test what's going on
[19:46] <fsck> hitsujiTMO thanks. i dont recall actively doing some creation of that kind^^
[19:47] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: ok, maybe i['m wrong. it just you were mentioning that you were looking for a device in /dev/mapper
[19:47] <PatrickO> mux3 you don't need ads, you will make loads from comission
[19:47] <fsck> yepp, hitsujiTMO, because i wanted to run a fsck on it for a bad block message
[19:48] <kader1487> hi
[19:48] <SchrodingersScat> kader1487: hello.
[19:48] <mooda> hello everyone, I wanted to change sound settings, and the sound is now gone totally while doing so
[19:49] <kader1487> hello
[19:50] <TJ-> fsck: hitsujiTMO You say you have 2 internal drives? The 'dmesg' says /dev/sda is "scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Intenso  External USB 3.0"
[19:50] <LucasUb> Buenas necesito ayuda con una cosa de ubuntu alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[19:51] <lucido> hi, how well the ms office work under wine?
[19:51] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: ahh, didn't read exactly what type. just read sda + sdb
[19:51] <fsck> tj- yes.
[19:51] <lucido> does
[19:51] <Jeb_Bush> !en LucasUb
[19:51] <lucido> and itunes
[19:51] <mooda> hello everyone, I wanted to change sound settings, and the sound is now gone totally while doing so..could you help me please?
[19:51] <SonikkuAmerica> LucasUb: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:51] <TJ-> fsck: hitsujiTMO And it looks like the 2 internal drives are hardware RAID on an LSI controller: "mptsas"
[19:51] <LucasUb> thx
[19:52] <fsck> tj - but its not an usb, my 1st internal !
[19:52] <TJ-> fsck: hitsujiTMO "mptsas" is the driver for the FusionMOT SAS controllers
[19:52] <fsck> tj- what does that mean "2 internal drives are hardware RAID on an LSI controller: "mptsas""
[19:52] <TJ-> fsck: The internal hardware RAID device presents as "/dev/sdb"
[19:53] <fsck> yepp thats my music and films drive tj-
[19:53] <TJ-> fsck: If the PC has 2 internal drives, on the FusionMPT SAS controller, they are combined to look like a single drive to the operating system: "/dev/sdb"
[19:53] <ubiquitous81> mooda - when you say you changed your sound settings where did you change such settings?
[19:54] <fsck> tj- there is only 1 drive SATA, and 1 drive IDE... sdb should be SATA?
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: i was making an assumption that there were 2 drives
[19:54] <xeno> I am trying to figure out some Ubuntu virtualbox stuff.  Is #vbox the right group, or should I ask here or elsewhere?
[19:54] <TJ-> fsck: If the drives are *not* connected to the FusionMPT controller, then "/dev/sdb" is a/the bare drive
[19:55] <SonikkuAmerica> xeno: Is it an issue of VBox doing something wrong, or Ubuntu misbehaving inside the guest?
[19:55] <fsck> TJ- no idea what FusionMPT is, sorry.
[19:55] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Oh? Ahhh you're trying to catch me out! I was adding that info into reading the kern.log. So, we have "/dev/sdb" which is a Seagate ST31000528AS  connected internally
[19:55] <xeno> It isn't specific to ubuntu in the guest, as debian does it there too.
[19:56] <xeno> It is how to set a mock hardware value inside the guest from the virtualbox app server.
[19:56] <TJ-> fsck: From a terminal can you try: "sudo blkid /dev/sdb"
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> fsck you get that 12.04 cd ready yet?
[19:57] <jhutchins> This is why we use UUIDs for fstab.
[19:58] <demophobia> How do you scroll up without the mouse in terminal?
[19:58] <bekks> You dont.
[19:58] <fsck> hitsujiTMO tj- that 12.04.3 live cd iso shows as a zip file on Windows, but i can burn this cant i?
[19:59] <k1l> demophobia: shift and pgup
[19:59] <ubuntu4me> im thinking of getting this http://www6.rentacenter.com/rent/computers/laptops/alienware-14-laptop-computer#.Uuqs5_jwDzo any idea if ubuntu will run on it? cant seem to find ANYTHING on google
[19:59] <Jordan_U> hitsujiTMO: TJ-: The reason that /dev/mapper/ was mentioned was because fsck is (according to them) using LUKS encryption, which will create a device in /dev/mapper/.
[19:59] <demophobia> k1l, thank you
[19:59] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: yup. right click -> open with -> burny burny tools
[19:59] <demophobia> (bekks, ?)
[20:00] <bekks> demophobia: It isnt supported to scroll up with the mouse in the terminal.
[20:00] <fsck> hitsujiTMO i will use ImageBurn
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: ahh, missed that bit. jumped in a bit late
[20:00] <fsck> ^^
[20:00] <TJ-> Jordan_U: hitsujiTMO: fsck: Yeah, with there being no partition table on sdb, I'm suspecting full-disk encryption of sdb
[20:00] <Ademan_> evince can't seem to search in this pdf beyond single-character searches, which is obviously is not helpful... I suspect that every character is somehow "separate" in the file, has anyone run into this before?
[20:00] <TJ-> fsck: Is the problem PC currently still running the 10.04 liveCD?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: yup, hes burning the 12.04 disk now
[20:01] <fsck> tj- yes im slow sorry
[20:01] <TJ-> fsck: Ok, run this command from a terminal, let's discover if sdb is encrypted: "sudo cryptsetup isLuks /dev/sdb"
[20:01] <TJ-> fsck: So long since I used 10.04, it might not have cryptsetup installed by default, though
[20:02] <fsck> tj- sdb is not the disk i need to check, cryptesetup was still in the repos, other things not...
[20:02] <jhutchins> bekks: Depends on the "terminal".
[20:02] <TJ-> fsck: The only other disk showing up is "/dev/sda" which is external USB 3.0, is it that one?
[20:03] <fsck> tj- nope but maybe that was my external backup that was on when i started this session, its now of
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[20:05] <TJ-> fsck: There are no PATA devices being detected by the ata_piix driver. Have you checked cables?
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: was the external backup connected before when it failed to boot?
[20:05] <fsck> tj- and i was shocked not being able to find /dev/sda, still burning live cd btw
[20:06] <fsck> hitsujiTMO yepp, but it did not make any difference if it was on or off when booting.
[20:07] <ubuntu4me> im thinking of getting this http://www6.rentacenter.com/rent/computers/laptops/alienware-14-laptop-computer#.Uuqs5_jwDzo , any idea if ubuntu will run on it? cant seem to find ANYTHING on google
[20:07] <TJ-> fsck: OK, so ignoring the external USB3, the only drive discovered is the ST31000528AS 1TB as "/dev/sda" which has no partition table
[20:07] <mooda> ubiquitous81, the sound returned when I restarted the application "sound" again. before I'd increased the output volume of speakers, and then maybe selected "digital output" instead of speakers by mistake, and when I selected "speakers" again, the sound was gone. I think it happened like this.
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: what might be going wrong is that you've references by device for the disks, and when you booted, the external was presented as sda meaning it couldn't find the referenced filesystems
[20:07] <bekks> ubuntu4me: Of course Ubuntu will run on it.
[20:07] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: That still makes no sense; without at lease one drive with a recognised partition table, there's no boot-loader
[20:08] <ubuntu4me> bekks you know that as fact? if so do im i going to need to do some funky things to get it to work?
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: i'm assuming /boot is outside the luks partition which is the norm
[20:08] <fsck> hitsujiTMO ive had that idea too, but it couldnt find my system hd , or would not boot, when that usb hd was off as well, at least most times, or more and more often, my system was hanging too when i could boot it after a while
[20:09] <bekks> ubuntu4me: All compoments are supported. Intel CPU, Nvidia graphics chipset, etc.
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> fsck: i've seen similar issues happen with debian
[20:09] <bekks> ubuntu4me: And you have to beb aware that it uses Nvidia Optimus, which is funky to get to work.
[20:10] <fsck> hitsujiTMO thanks. live cd now baked, will prbb. cost 10 mins to boot from this, hope it works.
[20:11] <ubuntu4me> bekks: would installing bummblebee help and how hard is it to get it working?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu4me: the new way to do it is nvidia-prime. much more straight forward
[20:12] <bekks> ubuntu4me: I never dealt with bumblebee, but it should work pretty easy. Another approach would be nvidia-prime.
[20:12] <fsck> tj- hitsujiTMO bye and thx for helping, i will prbb. be back if i cant handle :)
[20:12] <ubuntu4me> hitsujiTMO: thank you will get it. hopeing to be able to play some steam games on it with out and lag
[20:14] <ubuntu4me> bekks: and thank you as well. i  didnt for get you :)
[20:18] <Tausen> I'm having some issues using the boot-repair utility to reinstall grub after lenovo tech support messed it up - I keep getting warnings about EFI: "EFI detected, please check the options" when I start boot-repair. If I try using the recommended repair, I get "The boot of your PC is in legacy mode. You may want to retry after changing it to EFI mode". If I choose "UEFI only" in BIOS, though, I can't boot the boot-repair CD at all. I'm not sure how I should
[20:18] <Tausen> proceed?
[20:19] <Tausen> Oh, and it also suggests "Alternatively, you may want to retry after deactivating the [Seperate /boot/efi partition:] option.", but I'm not really sure about anything at this point
[20:19] <jhutchins> !efi
[20:19] <masood> Guys, I have suddenly noticed samba server can not access to the ldap and this is the error: http://pastebin.com/fptr5gER
[20:20] <masood> I cannot access shared files and that's quite urgent to be solved
[20:21] <masood> detail is also available here: http://goo.gl/Sm3JMP
[20:22] <Tausen> jhutchins: Yeah, I did see that article when I installed xubuntu back in the day, and disabled secureboot as suggested. I just followed the defaults in the installation, though, so I'm not even sure if its installed in UEFI mode or not
[20:24] <Tausen> But I'm not really sure how I should proceed - should I try and follow the "Converting Ubuntu into Legacy mode" steps and try recovering grub after that?
[20:25] <Dysmas> hi everyone
[20:25] <Dysmas> anyone know where I can go to help get involved in development of 14.04
[20:26] <Tausen> Or is there some way I can get the boot repair disc started in UEFI mode rather than legacy mode?
[20:26] <rww> !getinvolved
[20:26] <Dysmas> thx
[20:26] <rww> See also #ubuntu+1 for specific Trusty discussion :)
[20:26] <dixon> hello i am new on ubuntu . what i u thing about ubuntu studio 13.10?
[20:26] <Dysmas> dixon: I was just there, all quiet though
[20:27] <Dysmas> *rww
[20:27] <rww> yeah, it's a bit slow
[20:27] <bekks> Dysmas: you didnt ask a single question there :)
[20:27] <dixon> what u thing is better?
[20:27] <bekks> dixon: better than?
[20:28] <dixon> regular ubuntu or ubuntu studio?
[20:28] <bekks> dixon: Depending on your particular use case.
[20:28] <Dysmas> bekks: true, guess I was just seeing if anyone wanted to talk development
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> dixon  studio is multimedia dedicated, for musicians and such
[20:29] <dixon> ohhh ok
[20:29] <bekks> Dysmas: It's a support channel, not a general discussion channel. :)
[20:29] <dixon> what is the best linux distro?
[20:29] <vtreyntby> hi, I got no sound with ubuntu 12.04, I have a mothercard with integrated sound, I got not speakers
[20:29] <bekks> !best | dixon
[20:29] <rww> You're in #ubuntu, so of course we are going to say Gentoo.
[20:31] <dixon> Thank u for u time
[20:32] <dixon> how to make compiz work on ubuntu studio 13.10?
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> dixon  #ubuntu-studio
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> dixon  #ubuntustudio, even
[20:35] <dixon> I try for some reason don't work
[20:36] <vtreyntby> do I need speakers to have sound ith ubuntu, I got mothercard with integrated sound but no sound with 12.04, windows is fine
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> vtreyntby  in a terminal, type alsamixer... if you see MM, go there and press m... use the arrows to navigate
[20:38] <vtreyntby> <MonkeyDust thx, I will reboot to ubuntu and see if it works
[20:42] <MaxSan1> hey folks I have an odd issue
[20:42] <luilakde1e> I'm trying to copy a large amount of files to an external hdd. However, it keeps hanging after a while, hence not finishing the copy. Het external hdd is formatted in ntfs. A few times the hang was followed by an entire freeze of xfce. Anyone happen to have a clue what's going on?
[20:42] <Dysmas> bekks: is there a general discussion channel?
[20:42] <MaxSan1> every time i try do an apt-get install
[20:43] <MaxSan1> I always get no pcakages will be installed
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> luilakde1e: can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/syslog
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> Dysmas  #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> MaxSan1: what are you trying to install?
[20:45] <MaxSan1> erm
[20:45] <Dysmas> MonkeyDust: Thx
[20:45] <MaxSan1> loads things
[20:45] <MaxSan1> java
[20:45] <MaxSan1> some libbs
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> MaxSan1: and everything is getting the same 0 packages to install?
[20:46] <treehouse> dafuq.. so I installed apache2, right. Permission denied everywhere :O
[20:46] <MaxSan1> yup
[20:46] <jhutchins> MaxSan1: How are you finding the package names?
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> MaxSan1: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:46] <treehouse> I need to set www-data as owner for every file in /var/www, don't I?
[20:47] <MaxSan1> hmmm
[20:47] <MaxSan1> so every package name i have been installing is wrong
[20:47] <MaxSan1> which seems odd
[20:47] <MaxSan1> also
[20:47] <MaxSan1> whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude]
[20:48] <treehouse> sight.....
[20:48] <rww> MaxSan1: they're different frontends to the APT package management system. apt-get is included by default on Ubuntu and tends to behave more normally out of the box.
[20:48] <treehouse> so how do I give myself permission to the www-data group?
[20:48] <MaxSan1> openjdk-6-jdk fails
[20:48] <treehouse> also, how do I give the www-data group access to everything my user has permission to?
[20:49] <rww> !info openjdk-6-jdk
[20:49] <MaxSan1> it is zero all over
[20:49] <rww> MaxSan1: have you done sudo apt-get update recently?
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> MaxSan1: aptitude does not have super cow powers
[20:49] <MaxSan1> i ran update
[20:49] <MaxSan1> upgrade
[20:49] <MaxSan1> and dist-update
[20:50] <MaxSan1> dist-upgrade*
[20:50] <rww> MaxSan1: open /etc/apt/sources.list, paste its contents into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ , link the page it creates here
[20:51] <luilakde1e> Trying to pastebin - firefox froze. The party must be getting started again
[20:51] <MaxSan1> pastebin.com/MavmQpKG
[20:52] <rww> MaxSan1: erm, I take it the stuff on lines 7 to 11 is a mispaste?
[20:53] <Shapeshifter> Hi. I'm running an ubuntu 13.10 server and for the most part, it ran fine after set-up. However, sometimes it appears to freeze and when I reboot, it takes ages to do anything, first showing this http://i.imgur.com/Xz5Chkq.png (you can see how long it took for it to remount md1, although it doesn't even say why) and then this http://i.imgur.com/PXJ7mZd.png which I don't even think makes any sense. I thought /tmp is using tmpfs, why ...
[20:53] <MaxSan1> LOL yes its not really in the file
[20:53] <power__> hello
[20:53] <pietro10> Hi. Is there a list of packages in Ubuntu that are not in Debian, and vice versa? Thanks.
[20:53] <MaxSan1> didnt even notice that :D
[20:53] <Shapeshifter> ... wouldn't it be ready? At this point, the machine pretty much freezes. Pressing S or M does nothing. On this same hardware and on the same softraid, I used to run an Arch installation which had no problems. Furthermore, if I reboot into recovery mode, things are running slowly as well. Dropping to the root shell takes 5 minutes or so. Doing a shutdown -r now never happens (I can still hit enter to print newlines but nothing ...
[20:53] <Shapeshifter> ... happens. It doesn't even accept ctrl-alt-del).
[20:53] <Shapeshifter> Clues?
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> MaxSan1: if pastebinit installed: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:54] <bkfitz> Trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on Dell T5600 with NVideo K2000 and am having issues... installs ok, then reboot to log in menu, enter credentials, then it just goes into a comotosed state... any ideas?
[20:54] <rww> MaxSan1: ok. pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update and the output of apt-cache policy openjdk-6-jdk
[20:54] <MaxSan1> fyi im running ubuntu server
[20:54] <Shapeshifter> I checked the raid for errors from the recovery shell. It's fine.
[20:54] <bkfitz> Mint 13 works fine
[20:54] <bkfitz> Nvidia K2000 driver?
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> Shapeshifter: are the partitions encrypted?
[20:55] <power__> my mac will not show the cd image when i bout up when i ham holding the alt key
[20:55] <Shapeshifter> hitsujiTMO: nope.
[20:56] <Shapeshifter> hitsujiTMO: I also checked /etc/fstan from the recovery console, making sure it was using UUIDs that match what blkid says, and everthing is fine.
[20:56] <Shapeshifter> *fstab
[20:56] <jhutchins> Shapeshifter: You might read up on the SysRq key and how to use it for troubleshooting.
[20:57] <jhutchins> Shapeshifter: You might also try to do a controlled restart with fsck, sudo shutdown -Fr now
[20:57] <Shapeshifter> jhutchins: it's too bad I'm unable to send SysRq through this remote kvm :/
[20:59] <MaxSan1> hmmm
[20:59] <MaxSan1> sudo apt-get update > some.doc | pastebinit some.doc
[20:59] <MaxSan1> thats no good?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> Shapeshifter: If you have some ssh access, even if too slow to do much of anything else, you can "echo foo | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger".
[21:00] <treehouse> I set the www dir, recursively, as owned by group www-data, and my current user is part of that group. But still no access ='(...
[21:00] <MaxSan1> i have to go inside said id go watch stuff with the misses
[21:00] <MaxSan1> thanks for the help guys. Il battle on later.
[21:00] <Shapeshifter> Jordan_U: thanks for the tip.
[21:00] <Jordan_U> Shapeshifter: You're welcome.
[21:00] <luilakde1e> And the entire system froze again - Alas no time left, it shall be a job for tomorrow. Until then.
[21:02] <jhutchins> treehouse: I think the current packages may default to "Deny All".
[21:03] <treehouse> problem: when I save files... apache can't open them since they aren't saved as www-data. What the hell do I do? :3
[21:03] <smallfoot-> Transmission isn't assiocated with magnet: links :(
[21:04] <Kroach> which packages does jockey install as "Broadcom wireless STA driver"?
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: did yoy relog after adding your user to the group?
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> s/yoy/you
[21:04] <treehouse> yes
[21:05] <Beldar> !broadcom | Kroach
[21:05] <rww> Kroach: I expect broadcom-sta-dkms
[21:05] <treehouse> but I'm trying another solution: I'm making myself the owner.. but I just need the www-data group to be able to access the files
[21:05] <treehouse> I can't chown everytime I create a new file
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: " apache can't open them since they aren't saved as www-data" why would this be the case? are you making them 600 or something?
[21:07] <treehouse> \o/ idk, I don't know what I'm doing. Aren't services, such as apache, running as a user called "www-data" or something, and need speci... wait.. what file rights do apache have?
[21:07] <Kroach> rww: is that the only package?
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: yes they run as that, but they don't need the files to be owned by that user. just readable (o+r) which they are by default
[21:08] <ftjk_875> salut
[21:09] <Beldar> stand down private ;)
[21:09] <ftjk_875> i am linda
[21:09] <ftjk_875> :)
[21:09] <ftjk_875> http://j.gs/6040934/my-fecebook-linda
[21:09] <ftjk_875> http://j.gs/6040934/my-video-linda
[21:14] <sunzi> lold
[21:14] <RaptorJesus> why do I have no sound with a2dp
[21:18] <Beldar> !details | RaptorJesus
[21:20] <RaptorJesus> I'm running xubuntu 13.10, when I try to play music from my phone to my computer with a2dp no sound comes out but Left 4 Dead 2 has audio
[21:22] <myst3r10n> how do i install java on ubuntu 3.8.0-29?
[21:22] <rww> myst3r10n: install the package default-jre
[21:23] <rww> or default-jdk if you're going to be writing Java stuff
[21:23] <myst3r10n> i need the JDK
[21:23] <RaptorJesus> nobody knows why my bluetooth don't work?
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> myst3r10n: on 13.04 or 12.04 ?
[21:23] <bekks> myst3r10n: 3.8.0-29? is a kernel version, not an Ubuntu version. And it is not related to installing java.
[21:23] <bekks> !java | myst3r10n
[21:23] <myst3r10n> it's ubuntu 12.04.3-server
[21:24] <myst3r10n> i do now install default-jdk thx :)
[21:24] <bekks> myst3r10n: Then just refer to the article given by ubottu.
[21:32] <pietro10> got my answer
[21:32] <pietro10> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/?dl=4140790 column 1:debian sid; column 2:ubuntu saucy; column 3:common
[21:33] <treehouse> ok, so I need the user and/or group www-data to have access to a certain directory at all times. How do I do that? I can chown.. but more importantly: how do I maintain that if a completely other user is creating and editing files in that directory?
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: do you mean that it needs read access?
[21:35] <treehouse> yes, and potentially write access (file uploads)
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: by default it should have read access (assuming you never changed the umask). you should only add write access to spefic folders that needs to be writable and no more. use chmod o+w for that
[21:37] <RaptorJesus> fuck ass
[21:37] <treehouse> RaptorJesus: lol
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> RaptorJesus: are you just looking to be permanently banned ?
[21:39] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: but if I create a file with gedit, and saves it in the www dir, www-data won't have any access
[21:40] <glitchd> hello all
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: it should have read access. your default umask should be 0002 which would create the file with 664 permission, which means it will have global read access
[21:41] <linXea> Using network-manager-openconnect (cisco anyconnect) to connect to university VPN. Connection is established and interface vpn0 is showing up with appropriate inet IP assiged. Issue, surfing the web is still managed by eth0 with home IP and not through the vpn0 interface. Isn't VPN interface supposed to take priority when connected? How do I resolve this?
[21:42] <glitchd> i have a new hp probook 4540s, i installed xubuntu on it, however im not able to adjust screen brightness with the keyboard hotkeys or thru the terninal. Help?
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions should explain permissions for you
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> glitchd: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue           and: uname -r
[21:45] <glitchd> hitsujiTMO, ill get that for u right now
[21:46] <glitchd> hitsujiTMO, glitchd@HPProBook-4540s:~$ cat /etc/issue
[21:46] <glitchd> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[21:46] <glitchd>     
[21:46] <glitchd> hitsujiTMO, glitchd@HPProBook-4540s:~$ uname -r
[21:46] <glitchd> 3.11.0-15-generic
[21:47] <user_> yoooooo
[21:47] <Jeb_Bush> yoooooo
[21:48] <user_> lol hello'
[21:48] <Jeb_Bush> sup
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> glitchd: ok, there's a few kernel params to try. do you know how to add kernel params in grub?
[21:48] <user_> how old are you guys ?
[21:49] <Jeb_Bush> user_: 18
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> !it | user_
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | user_  sorry
[21:49] <glitchd> hitsujiTMO, not at all...
[21:49] <Jeb_Bush> !al | hitsujiTMO
[21:49] <Jeb_Bush> !fr | hitsujiTMO
[21:50] <kingfisher64> how do I get my android phone to connect to ubuntu 13.10? I've tried go-mtpfs however "Unable to locate package go-mtpfs" is output. This was reported to work upto version 12.10.
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> !text | glitchd      have a quick read of this, you will need to enter some kernel params in the same fashion
[21:51] <Jeb_Bush> hitsujiTMO: this is english only. please join #ubuntu-fr
[21:51] <glitchd> hitsujiTMO, thanks ill have a read of that
[21:51] <k1l> Jeb_Bush: stop that. stick to ubuntu support in here
[21:51] <Jeb_Bush> hitsujiTMO: si vous voulez discuter sur l'ubuntu en francais joinez #ubuntu-fr
[21:51] <glitchd> hitsujiTMO, i have to leave
[21:51] <napo747> ciao
[21:51] <Myrtti> Jeb_Bush: can you cut it out?
[21:51] <glitchd> hitsujiTMO, sorry but thx for the intended help
[21:51] <napo747> !list
[21:52] <glitchd> Jeb_Bush, gtfo.
[21:52] <Myrtti> glitchd: not appropriate
[21:52] <Jeb_Bush> !list
[21:52] <Myrtti> Jeb_Bush: could you leave the bot alone if you don't actually have anything worthwhile to have it do?
[21:52] <glitchd> Myrtti, im here to ask for help not to read someone retarded attempts at humor. bitch at him, not me.
[21:53] <k1l> !language | glitchd
[21:53] <Myrtti> glitchd: and I am, but that language was uncalled for. There are polite ways of telling people to stop.
[21:53] <Jeb_Bush> glitchd: that was rude man
[21:53] <Jeb_Bush> !language | glitchd
[21:53] <Jeb_Bush> yeah!
[21:53] <glitchd> alrighty then
[21:53] <Myrtti> having said that, MOVING ON
[21:53] <glitchd> kthx
[21:54] <darkxploit> hello.. can someone tell me how to make a big tar ball of all fils in /var/www/darkxploit
[21:54] <RaptorJesus>  rm -rf /
[21:54] <platzhirsch> Is there a way to see how the CPU is used on my VPS?
[21:54] <glitchd> now that thats over.....anyone have any idea how to force change screen brightness when hot keys are not working?
[21:54] <Jeb_Bush> tar -cvf /var/www/darkxploit/*
[21:55] <glitchd> RaptorJesus, thats not cool man.
[21:55] <glitchd> darkxploit, dont listen to that guy
[21:55] <darkxploit> i know
[21:55] <glitchd> darkxploit, that will delete your entire drive
[21:55] <darkxploit> lol
[21:55] <glitchd> darkxploit, ok good
[21:55] <Jeb_Bush> no it won't
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> darkxploit: tar cvf /path/to/archive.tar /var/www/darkxploit
[21:55] <darkxploit> lol
[21:55] <Jeb_Bush> glitchd: you're mean
[21:56] <darkxploit> rm ---remove recursive force /[root]
[21:56] <glitchd> Jeb_Bush, dont exactly know how your claim is valid.
[21:56] <k1l> glitchd: he is gone, lets stick to support in here
[21:57] <glitchd> thx
[21:57] <glitchd> im just trying to figure out how to adjust the brightness of my hp probook 4540s
[21:59] <Man_from_Mars> hi everybody, may I ask a couple of questions about GRUB and multiboot?
[21:59] <glitchd> so i take it that no one knows anything about my problem then..
[22:00] <darkxploit> sorry glitchd
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> glitchd: need to test kernel params: acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor         or params: acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=legacy   or params: acpi_osi="!Windows 2012" acpi_backlight=vendor          or params: acpi_backlight=legacy      or params: acpi_osi=Linux
[22:00] <glitchd> trying to adjust the screen brightness on an hp probook 4540s..
[22:00] <kingfisher64>  sudo apt-get install mtp-tools mtpfs was the solution from http://askubuntu.com/questions/376815/how-to-connect-mtp-android-device-to-ubuntu-13-10. The answer with 0^ worked. Maybe someone could vote this up (i've not got enough rep) so this helps others?
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> glitchd: if all of them fail, then its a case writing an acpid script specific for you laptop
[22:01] <darkxploit> guys thanks ii made my tar sucessfully
[22:03] <glitchd> hitsujiTMO, thx for the help, i have to leave.
[22:03] <codepython777> is this normal for ubuntu 12.04? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6846257/
[22:04] <platzhirsch> Is there a way to see how the CPU is used on my VPS?
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> platzhirsch: your provider normally has a monitor available in your web control panel
[22:05] <platzhirsch> hitsujiTMO: thanks... let's see
[22:05] <kalekip1_> Hey does anybody know if the Ubuntu 13.10 theme is available for 12.04?
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> codepython777: that looks relatively normal
[22:05] <kalekip1_> I used to have 13.10, but now I'm on 12.04 and the awesome theme is less awesome.
[22:07] <platzhirsch> hitsujiTMO: looks like it's only the CPU usage of my share
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1_: they use the same theme, just a different version. there's most likely compatibility issues as the one in 13.10 will target specific software versions within 13.10. you could attempt to port it to 12.04
[22:09] <platzhirsch> I will ask in #linode
[22:09] <kalekip1_> hitsujiTMO: I want it so bad :P Any idea where I can get it?
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1_: what elements of the theme are missing for you?
[22:10] <kalekip1_> hitsujiTMO: I can make a whole list :P
[22:10] <guntbert> codepython777: what is your problem?
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> top 3 things. want to know if its actually part of the theme or the DE
[22:11] <codepython777> guntbert: I'm coming from debian where those sources list is usually 3-4 lines. Is it normal to have that long a file on 12.04?
[22:11] <kalekip1_> hitsujiTMO: When you press Super, it shows a list of shortcuts. When switching from workspace (hotkey) it gives a nice effect and switches smoothly.
[22:11] <guntbert> codepython777: it looks pretty normal to my eyes
[22:11] <darkxploit> its since some hours i saw vswap at 100%. i could not ssh over the server. i then rebooted it. vswap is now 0%. site still down i can't ssh. i have launched the console. a netstat -antpl give me no result. a nmap localhost can't reach http://125.0.0.1/. i have disable firewall right now. still nothing.. i have restarted apache .. now only apache is listening.. but the site still down.. anyone can help please
[22:11] <vahid> hi all
[22:11] <kalekip1_> vahid: Hi.
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1_: thats the DE and not the theme, that isn't trivially portable
[22:12] <vahid> how to install  virtual box??
[22:12] <kalekip1_> vahid: Did you try the software center?
[22:12] <darkxploit> there is an application called quickly .. u can use it to build python apps @ gunbert
[22:12] <compdoc> have you tried:  sudo apt-get install virtualbox?
[22:12] <guntbert> !repos > codepython777
[22:12] <codepython777> guntbert: thanks
[22:13] <guntbert> codepython777: You're welcome
[22:13] <kalekip1_> hitsujiTMO: That's too bad. I think that I will just reinstall 13.10.
[22:13] <kalekip1_> hitsujiTMO: Or wait... when will 14 come out?
[22:13] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1_: 14.04 is out in year 14 month 04 ... so april
[22:13] <andrewjs18> hitsujiTMO, do you know how to set up ubuntu to show a welcome message like this when you sign in? http://imgur.com/GwteYkb
[22:14] <F41L> Hey all, question... I have hosts.deny set up, but from what I can tell... I'm not exactly sure if the system is even looking at that file to block hosts, is there some configuration file I can check into?
[22:14] <kalekip1_> hitsujiTMO: OK, thanks. I can't wait longer than two weeks. I'll just install 13.10 :/
[22:14] <k1l> andrewjs18: itsa called motd
[22:14] <vahid> how to install virtual box??
[22:14] <darkxploit> its since some hours i saw vswap at 100%. i could not ssh over the server. i then rebooted it. vswap is now 0%. site still down i can't ssh. i have launched the member:console. a netstat -antpl give me no result. a nmap localhost can't reach http://125.0.0.1/. i have disable firewall right now. still nothing.. i have restarted apache .. now only apache is listening.. but the site still down.. anyone can help please
[22:15] <andrewjs18> k1l, where is it located to edit?
[22:15] <k1l> vahid: install the virtualbox package
[22:15] <k1l> !virtualbox | vahid
[22:15] <vahid> ya
[22:15] <kalekip1_> vahid: compdoc gave you an answer..
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> andrewjs18: the sys info is from landscape common. other info is generated from the motd scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[22:15] <kalekip1_> vahid: Open the terminal and type: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[22:15] <guntbert> darkxploit: what do expect at 125.0.0.1? or was it a typo?
[22:15] <vahid> install virtual box im new user ubuntu
[22:16] <andrewjs18> hitsujiTMO, I see..ty
[22:16] <kalekip1_> vahid: OK, that's cool. But you know what a terminal is, right?
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> F41L: iptables or ufw is the norm on ubuntu
[22:16] <k1l> andrewjs18: the general scripts are in /etc/update-motd.d/ but the hardware reccources display needs some more scripts.
[22:16] <darkxploit> @gunbert its not suppose to be able to reach localhost with the nmap right ?
[22:17] <vahid> install but  eror
[22:17] <k1l> vahid: which error?
[22:17] <vahid> not install kernel or driver
[22:18] <k1l> !details | vahid
[22:18] <kalekip1_> Is it safe to just use the pre-release of 14.04?
[22:19] <k1l> kalekip1_: honestly: if you need to ask this dont use alpha/betas
[22:19] <rww> kalekip1_: it's not supported or recommended. it probably won't explode your cat, but if it does you get to fix it
[22:19] <amireldor> rww cats are good.
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> vahid: if there is a communication issue then maybe try a local support channel: #ubuntu-ir
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1_  it's not stable, so better not use it as a production system
[22:20] <guntbert> darkxploit: localhost is supposed to be found at 127.0.0.1
[22:20] <kalekip1_> MonkeyDust: It's just for home. Not for the office or anything.
[22:20] <darkxploit> yea thats it.. 127.0.0.1
[22:20] <darkxploit> typo
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1_  rephrase: it's not ready, yet
[22:21] <rww> kalekip1_: if you don't mind if it breaks, and you don't have data on it you need, then go right ahead
[22:21] <vahid> how to install blututhe  in back box??
[22:21] <kalekip1_> MonkeyDust: Alright, I will use 13.10 then.
[22:22] <attacheddisk> so my fully functional ubuntu server is hanging on boot at initializing scsi disks - i can't seem to find a solution to how to treat this problem anywhere, any suggestions?
[22:23] <attacheddisk> i say hanging, but i am able to still use the initramfs built-in commands
[22:24] <guntbert> !who | darkxploit
[22:24] <genii> attacheddisk: Is this the first boot after installing, or was it previously working?
[22:25] <attacheddisk> no, it's been working fine for months
[22:25] <guntbert> darkxploit: have a look at the log file: /var/log/syslo
[22:25] <darkxploit> ok
[22:25] <boggle> Just successfully added a ppa, but apt-get install still seems to be installing the older version in the default repo. Will the package in the ppa have a different name? What could be going wrong?
[22:25] <attacheddisk> the only change i made was commenting out one mount point in /etc/fstab which i know is unrelated - i've had this problem before but a couple reboots usually just "fixes itself"
[22:25] <darkxploit> !guntbert
[22:26] <darkxploit> ok
[22:26] <darkxploit> now i got it
[22:26] <attacheddisk> and.......... after trying a couple of old kernels to boot from, i was able to get past it. must be some change in one of the kernel updates? very weird.
[22:26] <guntbert> darkxploit: no need for the ! (or @), the nick alone does alert me
[22:27] <darkxploit> @gunbert does it work
[22:27] <darkxploit> @guntbert
[22:27] <guntbert> darkxploit: try this:  type  gun<tab>
[22:27] <TJ-> attacheddisk: compare the "root=..." kernel command-line entry with what the initrd can see of devices
[22:27] <darkxploit> guntbert:
[22:27] <darkxploit> ya
[22:28] <guntbert> darkxploit: thats it :-)
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> boggle: run apt-get update first to update the apt-cache
[22:28] <darkxploit> guntbert: ok now i got it
[22:28] <guntbert> darkxploit: have a look at the log file: /var/log/syslog
[22:28] <darkxploit> guntbert: error.log.1 and access.log.1 seem ok
[22:29] <darkxploit> guntbert: I'm trying desg and messages for the time being to investigate into the matter
[22:29] <treehouse> I put the user www-data in the root group.. how do I pull it out of there?
[22:30] <guntbert> darkxploit: you said apache works now anyway - I was thinking about ssh - you can try to start the ssh server:    sudo service ssh start
[22:30] <darkxploit> treehouse: are u on a server with just command line or on a GUI
[22:30] <treehouse> both
[22:30] <treehouse> desktop (got a terminal :3)
[22:31] <boggle> hitsujiTMO: hahaha, i'm an idiot. thanks a lot!
[22:32] <RedHawk> Hellos!
[22:32] <darkxploit> guntbert: ssh is running on the console by the VPS.. but still i can't ssh from my terminal!!..
[22:32] <RaptorJesus> ohai
[22:32] <darkxploit> treehouse:  just drag and drop
[22:33] <RaptorJesus> Dear women, it's not our fault you don't know how to take a punch to the face. stop ruining all our fun, sincerely, Men
[22:33] <linXea> darkxploit, firewall ?
[22:33] <guntbert> RaptorJesus: stop
[22:33] <RedHawk> RaptorJesus: Raptor + Jesus = PhilosoRaptor? :D
[22:33] <guntbert> !ot | RedHawk
[22:33] <RaptorJesus> lol
[22:33] <darkxploit> linXea: i have disable firewall for the time being.. originally i had disable UFW and install CSF which was working fine
[22:34] <darkxploit> linXea: but now i have disable CSF
[22:34] <darkxploit> linXea: i thought may be the firewall was preventing something.. but its not the firewall
[22:34] <linXea> checked # iptables -L
[22:36] <darkxploit> linXea: sudo iptables -L give me this
[22:36] <darkxploit> linXea: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[22:36] <darkxploit> target     prot opt source               destination
[22:36] <darkxploit> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[22:36] <darkxploit> target     prot opt source               destination
[22:36] <darkxploit> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[22:36] <skinux> Anyone had issue with RecordMyDesktop leaving borders around screen after recording has stopped?
[22:36] <FloodBot1> darkxploit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <darkxploit> target     prot opt source               destination
[22:37] <Guest48471> could someone please msg me? I am testing something
[22:37] <k1l> !test | Guest48471
[22:37] <darkxploit> guest17593:
[22:37] <Guest48471> thanks
[22:38] <darkxploit> linXea: what do u suggest
[22:38] <guntbert> !paste | darkxploit
[22:39] <darkxploit> guntbert:  i dont understant
[22:39] <darkxploit> hmm ok
[22:40] <darkxploit> linXea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6846392/
[22:42] <hexacode> anyone know a website where i can stream a 2 or 3 day buffer of local TV?
[22:42] <guntbert> !ot | hexacode
[22:43] <darkxploit> hexacode: i did not know if that exist too…frankly
[22:50] <Bray90820> IS there a sliverlight alternative for Ubuntu not for netflix
[22:52] <geppo> hello
[22:54] <kbrosnan> Bray90820: http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
[22:56] <Oog> crontab -e and i have * * * * * /home/dgobaud/pluto-beta/scripts/auto_expire.beta - that should run something ever minute right? it isnt getting ran at all. cron is running. i dont see any output in syslog
[22:58] <Bray90820> kbrosnan: that was discontinued and only works in firefox
[22:59] <skinux> So, no one has tried recordMyDesktop??
[23:00] <arviceblot> skinux: What do you mean?
[23:02] <guntbert> Oog: use a !pastebin to show us the contents of that file
[23:02] <Oog> guntbert: i figured it out - it is running but failing - i was getting emails on the local system
[23:02] <Oog> ut nothing i syslog
[23:03] <Oog> new problem is i made a .forward file, put my email in it, but emails arent being forwarded (running sendmail)
[23:04] <skinux> I'm trying to use recordMyDesktop, however, after recording there are still black borders at left and right screen edges. Upon starting recording the GUI disappeared, so I don't know what to do.
[23:04] <LuvLinuxOS> hi all... skinux have you tried SimpleScreenRecorder???
[23:04] <skinux> Nope.
[23:05] <LuvLinuxOS> give it a go...
[23:06] <manoel> ola
[23:19] <geppo> ciao
[23:23] <treehouse> I put the user www-data in the root group.. how do I pull it out of there?
[23:25] <Logan_> !it | geppo
[23:26] <TJ-> treehouse: "sudo deluser ...."
[23:27] <estudiante> hola
[23:29] <estudiante> hla
[23:32] <kbrosnan> Bray90820: that was the only thing that was ever developed to try and solve silverlight on linux. should work in any browser that support npapi which is most that support plugins
[23:33] <Bray90820> kbrosnan: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pipelight-using-silverlight-in-linux-browsers.html
[23:34] <kbrosnan> more or less running wine from a quick glance
[23:34] <Oog> my sendmail works but .forward is being ignored ideas? do i need to logout/login?
[23:35] <kbrosnan> at that point you might as well run ie in wine or any other browser
[23:35] <Bray90820> IE lol
[23:36] <kbrosnan> if you want silverlight to work really well. yeah use ie.
[23:37] <Bray90820> If you want anything to work you stay away from Internet destroyer
[23:38] <harris> ok so in math we have to turn in our notes and homework... the teacher grades it then gives it back and says to hold on to it to study for finals
 i have a least 100 pages of lined paper some 2 sided
 and?
 what is the best and fastest way to get them into my computer as digital copy where i can read through it
[23:38] <FloodBot1> harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <miguelangello> i would like to run lubuntu from a usb because i have an old machin without hd so how could i do it?
[23:41] <harris> iso and l;ive disk miguelangello
[23:42] <kbrosnan> harris: unless the paper is all printed it would be rather complicated to do handwriting recongition on it. likely better to take the time and type it in, practice your typing skills and and a chance to re-review the content
[23:43] <miguelangello> ?
[23:43] <miguelangello> harris, ?
[23:43] <kbrosnan> assuming it does not have a ton of graphs or math
[23:43] <kbrosnan> or other hard to represent data in text
[23:43] <miguelangello> harris,  what app could i use to do it?
[23:45] <yacc> Any idea what could be wrong: When I start a second user session (switch user), the second user  has no sound.
[23:54] <yacc> harris: scan it, with a scanner with a duplex ADF.
[23:54] <harris> ok thanks i decided not to scan them
[23:55] <yacc> harris: as for OCR-ing => handwriting => bad. Math notes is even worse, as practice shows that hand written formulas are often quite different type set in printed texts.
[23:56] <yacc> harris: if you have a nice scanner, scanning becomes like making a backup for paper.