/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/30/#ubuntustudio-devel.txt

holsteinhttp://ubuntustudio.org/download/ says 13.10 is supported til april01:23
knomethat's probably false, but otoh, nobody stops US from supporting it longer than other flavors01:24
knomewait,01:25
holsteinknome: i was just having words about it in the main support channel01:25
knome13.10...01:25
holsteinlike. no ,really.. its supported for 9 months01:25
knomeyeah01:25
holsteini had to break out the **'s01:25
holstein ;)01:25
holsteinit *is* supported for 9 months01:26
holsteinbut, i think our site is wrong there01:26
knomeyep, it's supported until july, unless the US team decided otherwsie01:26
holsteinright.. thats what i think it should say01:26
holsteinor, its meant to say01:26
knome(xubuntu only supports LTS releases for 3 years too)01:26
holsteinwell, the repos are up though01:26
knomewhich is a damn long time ;)01:26
holsteinthe kernel gets updates01:26
knomedo you have access to the website?01:27
holsteinknome: i dont think so.. i had access to the testing site01:27
knomeokay01:27
holsteinmaybe its just zequence 01:27
knomei do, so i can change01:27
holsteinknome: COOL!01:27
knomeanybody in ~ubuntustudio-website has admin access01:28
holsteini mean, i guess theres a chance that was the plan01:28
holsteinbut, i dont think so.. i think its a typo01:28
knome~ubuntustudio = contributor01:28
knome~ubuntustudio-public-relations = editor01:28
knomethe last one should allow you to edit published pages as well01:28
knomeand done01:29
holsteinknome: cheers01:29
knomehmm, allowing open team as contributors is a bit weird01:29
holsteinyup01:29
holsteini dont like that, necessarliy.. but im not the boss01:30
holsteinas long as zequence knows, and wants it that way01:30
knomeholstein, hey, you have editing rights as well :P01:30
holsteinknome: news to me.. 01:30
knomehttps://ubuntustudio.org/wp-admin/01:30
knometry logging in with openid01:30
knome(well the only option)01:30
holsteinwow.. that seems dangerous01:32
holsteinshouldnt we update wp as well?01:32
knomenope.01:33
knomeyou can't do it.01:33
holsteinwho can?01:33
knomethe IS handles that01:33
holsteinthat seems important01:33
knomewe're actually surprisingly up-to-date atm...01:33
holsteinwell, its not my server...01:33
knomeyep01:34
OvenWerkszequence: I have not put comments into the seeds for a long time. Those must be old.04:43
OvenWerksI think the idea of recomends was that someone could remove a package without making the system want to remove the whole meta.04:45
OvenWerksThat is not a problem with an install, but may be if the meta is installed on top of another install such as lubuntu or kubuntu.04:46
zequenceOvenWerks: So, we should move all our depends in our metas to recommends08:46
zequenceor..?08:46
zequenceholstein: 13.04 is EOL this month08:47
zequenceNo more kernel updates08:47
zequence13.10 is EOL in 6 months08:47
zequenceholstein: Where is the typo?08:50
zequenceknome: Ah, the download page?08:51
zequenceknome: The open team don't have any special rights. It's just a way to keep track of who is doing what09:17
zequenceThe contributors team, I mean09:17
zequence~ubuntustudio is not a contributor team09:17
zequenceIt's a user team. Currently you need to be in that team in order to add comments to the website09:17
zequenceThis due to spamming, which occurs otherwise09:17
knomezequence, if they are contributors, i think they can create new articles, but not publish them12:47
OvenWerkszequence: we should probably test removing a metas depends and see if it helps making it a recomend. It may be hard to tell as some of the packages have their own depends as well. Ask anyone who has tried to reove jack2 so they can add jack114:24
holsteinzequence: its sorted.. i was just wanting to make sure you werent planning EOL for *studio specific 13.10 in april14:52
holsteinknome updated it for us :)14:52
zequenceRight. I think it was smartboyhw who edited that page last time15:06
holsteinits not a big deal.. just came up yesterday in the support channel15:07
zequenceholstein: I'm currently working on the next version of ubuntustudio-controls, which will be a indicator applications. One of the features is to click a button to get a debug output of the system, whenever someone wants to troubleshoot15:53
zequenceI'm thinking, in the future, when someone has problems, we just ask them to install -controls, and check out the documentation for it (which is also coming)15:54
zequenceThen, if they keep having problems, we ask them to click a button, so we can see what is going on in their machine15:54
zequenceBut, I'm hoping the app itself will take care of most things15:55
zequenceSome of the features will be, options for autostarting jack and pulseaudio, as well as the bridge betwen them15:55
zequenceI'm adding some simple controls for jack too, in a user friendly form. Sample rate and latency (f/p)15:56
zequenceTrying to get all of the audio controls into one place, so that if you don't need to do anything out of the ordinary (which most users don't), they get everything from this one indicator application15:57
zequenceI'm intending to get a unbranded version into Debian too, maybe call it linux-multimedia-controls, all though, it's only for audio right now15:59
holsteini like that being an option.. jack autostart16:57
holsteinnot that im interested in it, personally16:57
zequenceThings should just work, especially the first time you try stuff out17:18
holsteinmaybe17:19
holsteini mean, it would be nice if it were like that, or more clear17:19
holsteinyou can still download the iso, and fire it up,and click on things and watch them break and not know why17:19
zequenceThe idea is that you have jack running right off the bat, and that any jack application will work17:23
holsteinim completely in support of that for others.. as long as it can be turned off easily17:24
zequenceholstein: Just a matter of clicking a toggle20:36

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