[00:04] Should be able to mute one source and unmute the other, but I tend to play in audacity to check things out. [00:08] i can't get it to work on audacity [03:31] so no one knows how to change the audio input? [03:32] maybe try amixer [03:32] although alsamixer is more convient [04:36] what is the keyboard shortcut to change desktops [04:44] Ctrl+Alt+Left or Right. [04:47] so lubuntu is the best linux that is as lightweight and user friendly as Windows XP? [05:05] also alt+mousewheel works [05:12] oh dear... [12:13] Hi! I have trouble installing lubuntu. When I chose install or try after I while I get just mouse cursor and monitor just flashing. Like someone is shuting down and then open it again [14:03] Quick question: I have a HP 431 with AMD Radeon 7450M and Intel HD 3000 hybrid graphics. Are there proper drivers for Lubuntu or will I be screwed over as with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? [14:06] Seriously? No one? [14:13] if you're expecting immediate answers, you're going to have a bad time [14:14] patience is kind of expected asset [14:14] Kaylors: If you install jockey-gtk, it should show if there are propietary drivers available for easy installation. [14:15] Mikaela: Thanks... [14:25] i [17:12] i would like to install lubuntu on a netbook. should i use 32 or 64bit for? [17:15] koell: Which version you install will depend on your processor. My netbook has a 32-bit processor so a 32-bit installation is the only option. [17:17] PaulW2U: it's a asus emachine em350 with intel atom cpu [17:20] the intel atom n450 has 64bit, i will just try it [17:22] koell: if the installation hangs when installing 64-bit then it's probably a 32-bit processor :o) [17:23] PaulW2U: okey, so i will know it immediately, fine [17:41] wow lubuntu runs really smooth. even on netbooks <3 [18:54] hi there; so i'm using lubuntu on my mother's laptop; the screen of the laptop is kinda borked so it can be hard to see anything on there which is why she connects it up to the TV or a monitor which has been working fine for a couple months [18:55] but now after login the screen just goes black for some reason.. and i heard weird audio "clicks", then when i hit the power button it goes into shutdown screen (visible again instead of just black) and turns off [18:55] can switch to the console or what it was called just fine... googled a bit and tried xrandr which just says "Can't open display" though [18:55] the fn button to switch screens does nothing either it seems [18:55] (the black screen is on the laptop screen that is, and cant seem to get it to display anything on the TV or monitor) [18:56] any ideas? [19:05] Neppy: what's changed since it worked and when it didn't work? [19:06] nothing as far as i know; maybe an update but not sure :p i know she started it up once with the TV not connected right at the beginning rather than it being connected; or i think the cable slipped out while it was already on; but i dont think that should break it in such a way? [19:07] also when i booted into windows it still seemed to work fine so it shouldnt be the port or fn keys that broke [19:07] in those cases, i'll troubleshoot the following.. try booting an earlier kernel. i'll disable the onboard screen in the bios, and try a monitor (not a TV) on the unit.. i'll run "aplay -l" in a terminal to see if the audio hardware is being used [19:08] i only get those weird audionoise clicks when in lubuntu though, so no clue what those are.. disable onboard screen? how would i turn that back on then though? [19:08] Neppy: why would you turn it back on? [19:08] well i'd guess to see something, unless im misreading something [19:08] Neppy: i disable broken hardware, personally.. and use an external monitor that is known good via VGA [19:09] well its broken as in it is flickering [19:10] ok.. i test with a known good monitor, and have a situation that i know works, and i disable the onboard since setting only the external means you can stop messing about with the function keys [19:10] but, i would want to have a known-good monitor setting about that i have used [19:10] Neppy: there was an implied order above.. have you tried booting the older kernel? [19:11] i havent, not even sure how to do that ^^" [19:11] Neppy: i feel you are stuck on disabling the onboard video.. if that bothers you, dont do it.. im just stating what i would do to rule out possible points of failure [19:11] well my point is kind of if i turn it off and the monitor doesnt work then im kinda more stuck than i was already [19:12] it's temporary [19:12] Neppy: you should go ahead and plan for that, for when that onboard video breaks.. and as i said, i have a known-good monitor i plug in via VGA [19:13] Neppy: if that is not working for you, dont do it.. [19:13] Neppy: you boot an older kernel by choosing it in grub [19:13] hmm let me try [19:14] this addresses a kernel upgrade, and lets you see if thats the issue.. if all is well with the older kernel, you can assume a kernel upgrade is breaking your hardware support [19:15] could be some package upgrade though… [19:16] could be alsa firmware, or who knows.. but, kernel upgrades are easy to test for [19:17] maybe xrandr itself [19:17] but, yeah, i'd weed out the kernel [19:18] booting the older kernel takes only a few minutes to test.. [19:18] Neppy: how did the older kernel work? the same? [19:21] I wonder if it could be something in X which you could test to see if could still get to tty [19:21] wait [19:21] he did say he could get to tty didn't he? [19:22] 1055 [freenode] < Neppy:#lubuntu> can switch to the console or what it was called just fine... [19:22] yes [19:22] not sure exactly how to interpret that but i imagine he can see it [19:22] so it probably is an x issue. still could be a kernel (module) issue. [19:25] Neppy said, or implied he could get to tty [19:25] he/she... [19:31] *she; older kernel does nothing it seems; also slight correction: the monitor doesnt seem to work on windows either, just the fn keys do; and not while booting either... strangely it goes black while its connected to the laptop though (without connection it just says "No signal") [19:31] that to me, then, sounds like an issue with the display [19:31] Neppy: nothing? so, it doesnt boot *anything*? just a plain black screen? or the same issue on the older kernel? [19:31] same issue on older kernel [19:31] yup.. the windows support is a great test for the hardware.. [19:32] i would not mess with the software anymore til i test with a different display and cables [19:32] well the display are screen adn TV with 2 diff cables, so if anything broken maybe the port on the laptop or such [19:33] the tv and monitor seem to work fine right [19:34] Neppy: could be that port as well.. [19:34] hmm wel lthe tv works fine [19:34] let me test the display screen on my pc [19:35] Neppy: the TV works fine on another input, though [19:36] well with my fathers laptop the tv works too [19:37] then you also know that cable is good [19:40] the cable, and the TV display [19:40] if windows wont work there, then, it makes me think the port, or the motherboard, or something hardware like that [19:41] which we can't really fix remotely [19:41] or, in linus software at all :/ [19:43] well the screen with the same cable also works fine on my PC... so must be the laptop port, video hardware or motherboard [19:43] Neppy: sure seems that way.. [19:43] considering she pulled the cable out or whatever, that's proabably it [19:43] Neppy: is it connecting via VGA? [19:44] the display? ya, through hdmi/vga adapter but the display thing is vga [19:45] i think, if i had a monitor handy, i would mess about with it and the bios a little.. could be that its toast, but there might be a setting somewhere that works [19:45] at least you know where the issue is, it seems [19:45] that adapter may be your problem, too [19:45] in what way? [19:46] the adapter is only for my PC anyway [19:46] not adapters in general, but the adapter may have failed [19:46] where the display works fine [19:46] since my gpu has no vga out [19:46] yup.. i would bypass everything you can [19:48] holstein: hm.. might try that tomorrow - though a bit hard to see the bios on the laptop screen [19:48] Neppy: mostly, when i boot machines with external VGA like that, they post the bios on both the onboard, and external [19:49] hm well didnt try bios yet but the whole bootup stuff didnt show on the external screen [19:50] Neppy: sure, but if whatever is broken is broken, it wont [19:50] ^^ [19:50] Neppy: thats not to say that it wouldnt on a VGA monitor normally [19:51] i have just set up a few "headless laptops" in the past... so i have fooled about and spent more time here than i should have :) [20:01] still wouldnt explain why lubuntu makes those weird click noises - except if its somehow influenced by the broken hardware [20:01] sure... could be bad motherboard, or power related [20:02] hm [20:02] well not like it matters much when the video-out doesnt work either way; just curious heh [20:43] hi all [21:20] Hi. [21:28] How do i change what program terminal uses to open links in.. [21:31] jirido: What is it currently using? Links2 or something? [21:46] genii: Sad to say it uses chrome even if FF is my default browser [21:47] jirido: What says the result of: ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser [21:49] jirido: Do you click the link with the mouse or how are you trying to open it? [21:50] ill see / mouse so far but i working on it, Just installed screen.. [21:52] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 jan 17 2013 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/chromium-browser [21:53] how do i change that? [21:53] ahh of corse [21:53] update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox (Do I remember right?) [21:54] o.0--b [21:55] sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser for something more interactive. [21:56] Un so you meen it askes? [21:57] Yeah, it'll then ask which you want. [21:57] Ok in popup pr cli? [21:57] or* [21:59] CLI. [22:04] when i run sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser it does ask if i want to keep the default or choose a number of alternatives.. The only one with automatic and not manual in the end is also labeled chromium.. there is no alternative for just automatic [22:04] Or choose when you click [22:06] You hit a number there and it'll select that browser as default. [22:20] Unit193: Ok I got it so that there were an alternative to get to choose everytime i click on a link :) Now i get it! Thanks It worked well! [22:21] You're welcome! [22:21] genii: ^ [22:22] Unit193: Heh :) [22:22] Your idea. [22:22] Unit193: I didn't get a highlight in this channel so didn't get back to the part about configuring it yet :) [22:24] Im now strictly FF Well i have now installed elinx and linx but they dont show in the list.. Could i get them as default also? [22:25] That's in www-browser [22:26] so they are not www-browsers [22:27] sorry [22:27] now i get it [22:28] the www-browser is for when you are in only CLI and not a terminal inside X, the x-www-browser is for the graphical ones [22:28] Then there is gnome-www-browser too. ;) [22:29] jirido: If you so desire, you can add manually entries to the alternatives. I'd have to look up the syntax however, I haven't done it since I was tinkering with different java this way [22:29] one is automatic mode is that the last i opened? [22:30] They are ranked by numbers, it's telling you which would be default. [22:32] I most look pastebin and youtubevideos people post here with irssi so it would be cool to be able to open them in som www-browswer that suports flash.. but at other times it would be nice to get the link to FF.. but i would go for www-browser [22:33] A text browser that supports flash, I don't think you've ever used a terminal browser. :) [22:35] i have but im looking right now if i can find a hack [22:35] It would be cool [22:35] Some have image suport i understand [22:37] Yes, you can run links2 with -g for instance. It has graphics, and if psmouse driver is loaded, mouse too. But no javascript/java/flash/etc [22:42] Ok.. sad. It would be fun. I dont understand why it is so imposible to run for an example ff in a cli.. with pentadactyl.. [22:43] well that were probably not so smart said.. but i feel it! [22:46] Ohh.. linux.com looked nice [23:45] well thanks for the help earlier ^^ and night