[00:09] <slicslak_> hey all, what are people using for a DAAP server these days? forked-daapd looks avail but is also reported dead
[00:19] <gabeh> Hi, I added an upstart job.  I can see it when I do a initctl list.  Now, how do I remove it?
[00:20] <sarnold> what is your goal in removing the upstart job?
[00:20] <gabeh> Make sure it doesn't ever run again adn it isn't showing up on the list
[00:21] <sarnold> gabeh: service <service name> stop ; rm /etc/init/<servicename>
[00:22] <gabeh> ah ha!
[00:22] <gabeh> <3
[00:23] <gabeh> thanks
[00:23] <sarnold> <3 have fun :)
[00:25] <Rpg_reborn> hello
[00:26] <Rpg_reborn> i made a mistake and remove xbuntu desktop wrong, and now it boots to a login, and repeats itself. hoow do i restore the server with motd and prompt
[00:32] <darkxploit> Rpg_reborn: is it not better with just a terminal
[00:33] <darkxploit> Rpg_reborn: are u on ubuntu server
[00:33] <Rpg_reborn> yes i am
[00:35] <Rpg_reborn> I want to restore my server to the way it was so i can reload another desktop that is even more lightweight
[00:36] <Rpg_reborn> I do not want to lose the files I have on it, just want to get rid of configuration on boot
[00:37] <darkxploit> Rpg_reborn: no idea i do have a ubuntu server.. i just ssh over to it for my website
[00:37] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: just apt-get install whatever desktop package thingy you want..
[00:37] <Rpg_reborn> ok thats it
[00:37] <darkxploit> Rpg_reborn:  apt-get install gnome2
[00:37] <Rpg_reborn> lol never thought of that, so it will replace the current loadup
[00:38] <Rpg_reborn> how about xorg and then openbox is that a really good and lightweight desktop or is there a less memory one
[00:38] <darkxploit> can anyone do an nmap on my website and send me result please
[00:38] <darkxploit> I'm actually on mac..
[00:40] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: I like i3wm, but used openbox for a few weeks a decade ago without real problems..
[00:42] <darkxploit> sarnold: can open box makes ur desktop 3d with rotating features ?
[00:45] <sarnold> darkxploit: no, that requires a "compositing window manager" thing such as compiz or .. whatever the other one is. :) heh
[00:45] <darkxploit> sarnold:  yeah but to compile it is a pain in the a$$
[00:46] <sarnold> darkxploit: agreed, I gave up slackware back in 96 or so for a reason :) hehe
[00:49] <jrwren> gabeh: if you apt-get upgrade that <servicename> package, it will replace that /etc/init/<servicename> which you deleted and then start again
[00:49] <darkxploit> guys how do u back up your whole website +  database to your pc ?.. do u use only rsync or cronjob or any script ?
[00:49] <gabeh> thanks
[00:50] <sarnold> darkxploit: ideally, you _push_ your website contents from your local storage
[00:51] <sarnold> you want to be able to recreate your website on a new host / service provider / machine at a moments notice with as little manual effort as is practical..
[00:52] <sarnold> gabeh: ah, if you want it to -stay- stopped, even if the config file comes back (good point jrwren :) -- echo manual >> /etc/init/<servicename>.override   -- see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files
[00:52] <darkxploit> sarnold i just want to keep everything on my pc .. so that when someone hack me.. i just reinstall the OS and restore from backups
[00:53] <gabeh> oh no sarnold's answer is what I wanted
[00:53] <gabeh> thans though guys
[00:53] <Rpg_reborn> what does anyone think of fluxbox (low memory) however im open to more suggestions
[00:53] <gabeh> thanks*
[00:53] <jrwren> sarnold: great tip. i always forget about .override files
[00:54] <sarnold> jrwren: .override files is what got me to appreciate upstart compared to sysv-init :) hehe
[00:54] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: if you want _really_ small footprint, check out evilwm. last time I tried it, it compiled to an 11kb executable and ran in almost no memory.
[00:57] <darkxploit> guys I'm going to sleep.. gd night its already 0500 pff..
[00:57] <darkxploit> gd night
[00:57] <sarnold> hehe good morning darkxploit :)
[01:01] <Rpg_reborn> so how do i get it to boot directly to evilwm?
[01:01] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: that might be a bit of work if no one has prepared a .desktop file for evilwm
[01:01] <sarnold> if no one has, you'll need to write one..
[01:03] <Rpg_reborn> got it bro found the site
[01:19] <Rpg_reborn> what file directs the loader to go to the evilwm.desktop
[01:20] <Rpg_reborn> after load all the files with the   OK  it goes to a screen and then repeats looking for fiel
[01:20] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: I think /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[01:20] <Rpg_reborn> after load all the files with the   OK  it goes to a screen and then repeats looking for file
[01:22] <Rpg_reborn> help?? :(
[01:22] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: can you get a photo or something?
[01:24] <Rpg_reborn> yes
[01:27] <Rpg_reborn> how do i send a photo to you
[01:29] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: imgur or similar?
[01:30] <Rpg_reborn> i have picture
[01:30] <Rpg_reborn> did you get it
[01:30] <sarnold> I nearly missed the notice.. let me figure out how to do dcc..
[01:31] <Rpg_reborn> if flutuates between startup process screen and blank black screen
[01:33] <Rpg_reborn> i deleted .desktop and it started doing this. i though evilwm.desktop would have picked up. there must be a startup file that directs to .desktop
[01:33] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[01:34] <Rpg_reborn> (reborn smacks himself in the face) shame on me ty
[01:37] <Rpg_reborn> what do I do with the lightdm, do I have to add somelines to it, to look for evilwm, or just delete the file?
[01:43] <Rpg_reborn> Can lightdm be used to load evilwm? or how do I remove lightdm and have evilwm show up on startup
[02:01] <Rpg_reborn> if i grub 2 repair will it restore the boot file when it was first installed?
[02:32] <Rpg_reborn> where are the xsession located at again for .desktop
[03:04] <sarnold> Rpg_reborn: the general idea is your "desktop environment" provides a .desktop file somewhere, and then the lightdm display manager thing knows which is the default to start. it's not as easy to configure this as it used to be, since you can't just give a path to the executable any more, but it's still possible to change the defaults..
[04:08] <MavKen> my contact forms and user registration e-mails are not going out.  installed on new vps running ubuntu..any ideas?
[04:17] <mardraum> look at the mail log?
[04:32] <MavKen> got it working, had to install sendmail
[08:42] <makara> hi. I need Teamcity to run at startup, so I added to /etc/rc.local the line `sudo su - teamcity /usr/local/teamcity/bin/runAll.sh start &`
[08:42] <makara> it doesn't run. What's holding things up?
[08:51] <ihre> makara: create an init script; http://kusar.ch/2013/02/install-teamcity-on-amazon-ec2/
[08:56] <makara> ihre, what is "esac" at line 18?
[08:57] <alex88> the end of case
[08:57] <alex88> just like if -> fi
[09:58] <Zac12> hi there, I've got an ubuntu server with linode and for some reason i have incoming data which is incoming at a rate of a constant 8megabytes per second +
[09:58] <Zac12> i've managed to use iftop to identify that for some reason amazon S3 is sending this incoming data
[09:59] <Zac12> is there anyone who could suggest how i could find out exactly what the data in question is?
[09:59] <Zac12> so that i could establish why and what S3 is uploading to my server?
[10:00] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: what port?
[10:01] <Zac12> the ports differ but its over https to port 50484
[10:01] <Zac12> when i use iftop this is what i see: http://dpaste.com/1578542/
[10:02] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: what services do you have installed?
[10:02] <smb> jamespage, Have you got a few minutes for us (chris, seth and myself) to chat a bit about that neutron bug?
[10:02] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: looks like you're the one making the request
[10:03] <Zac12> hitsujiTMO: we use amazon s3 to store videos and images and whenever the admin section of our website needs a video or an image it pulls it from S3
[10:03] <Zac12> so that could easily account for why we should have some incoming data from S3 to our server
[10:03] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: yes. seems its pulling the data over https so seems ok then
[10:04] <Zac12> but, we've been getting alerts from linode that we've been extending their thresholds, we're talking about 30megabytes per second of incoming data for a constant 2 hours
[10:04] <Zac12> and i've checked the size of our videos files we have stored on s3, none of them extend 50megabytes
[10:05] <Zac12> so i'm not too sure exactly what data is being pulled down from amazon s3, that's why i somehow need to be able to tell what data /exactly/ is being downloaded
[10:05] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: it may be the case that you're transferring multiple files in the same connection.
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: since its over https you'd need the private key to decrypt the traffic, but its amazons private key so there's not way you can
[10:06] <Zac12> hmm true
[10:07] <Zac12> so i'm a bit stumped as to where to go to next
[10:07] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: is there a reason why you're pulling the files to the linonde server and not directly to the client?
[10:08] <Zac12> well we pull files directly to the client when its the client that needs the file, when you're editing or updating an article, the video or image pulls to the linode server because that's where the administration part of the app is
[10:08] <Zac12> if that makes sense
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: not really, is the video being modified?
[10:11] <Zac12> no but it is possible to play it back when you're opening it on the server
[10:11] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: but the client side could still reference directly from s3 even when on admin. still don't see why it would need to go thru the server
[10:11] <Zac12> hmm good point, but wouldn't the video need to download from amazon to the server to be able to play back?
[10:11] <ACaD> Zac12: are clients pulling video from your server which is then pulling it from S3?
[10:11] <Zac12> no
[10:11] <Zac12> the clients pull directly from S3 too
[10:12] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: no. if on the admin interface you can still do playback when referencing the files at an external location
[10:12] <ACaD> Zac12: Doesn't make too much sense with that information
[10:13] <Zac12> hitsujiTMO: oh i see.. in that case S3 should never be uploading anything to the linode server at all
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> exactly. so its seems more of an app design issue than anything else
[10:14] <Zac12> yeah true, that's something i'm going to have to dig into, old code, to see what its doing! hmm
[10:18] <Zac12> hitsujiTMO: is it possible for me to find out which requests our server is making to amazon?
[10:19] <Zac12> as you mentioned, it looks like the linode server is making the request and then the incoming traffic happens, right?
[10:19] <Zac12> how could i see which requests are being made to amazon, so that i could work from there?
[10:20] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: no, you'd have to set up a man in the middle attack, which would interupt the service
[10:20] <Zac12> and how would i do that?
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: set up a vhost listing with servername s3-3-w.amazonaws.com on port 443. have it simply dump the request headers to a file. then set you /etc/hosts to point s3-3-w.amazonaws.com to the ip of that vhost (127.0.0.1 if on the same machine)
[10:24] <Zac12> interesting! thats a cool idea
[10:26] <Zac12> how were you able to tell that the request is being made from my side? because of the iftop paste i sent?
[10:30] <hitsujiTMO> Zac12: the amazon side is using a constant well known port 443 (https), where as the linode side is using dynamic ports in the >49152 range. this is the normal observed behaviours in an https request from linode to amazon
[10:31] <Zac12> aah i see
[10:32] <hitsujiTMO> if it was data going to ports >49152 and also coming from >49152 then i'd suspect p2p protocols
[11:29] <rostam> hi is gtest (Google test) supported? if yes what is the name of the pkg? thx
[11:49] <zeorin> Hi, I have a problem with DNS resolution, ubuntu server 13.10 is set up as the DNS server using bind9
[11:49] <zeorin> However, sometimes when I ping a hostname in the zone for which it is authoritative, it seems like it is not queried, and instead the secondary DNS (which is not authoritative for the zone) is queried instead, and thus the name doesn't resolve
[11:51] <zeorin> the client machines which exhibit this behaviour are windows 7 machines as well as an ubuntu 13.10 machine. They exhibit the same behaviour.
[11:52] <zeorin> Please could someone shed some light on why this might be happening?
[13:19] <icemanbp> salve a tutti
[13:55] <melmoth> hi there ! Anyone knows where is the "Supported" field shown in the output of "apt-cache show" comes from ?
[13:55] <melmoth> man apt-cache tells me it comes from /var/lib/dpkg/available , so i was guessing it was full of data one can set in the source package
[13:56] <melmoth> but if i look in the source package, i dont find any occurence of Supported anywhere (and especially not in the control or rule file)
[13:56] <melmoth> so 1) what exactly is this field about and 2) who set it and where ?
[13:57] <rbasak> melmoth: AFAIK, it is done by infrastructure somewhere. Perhaps try #ubuntu-devel?
[13:57] <melmoth> let s give it a try, thanks.
[14:33] <MoleMan> Is there a way to get around this bug with the 13.10 installer (the motherboard has no PS2 inputs) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244176
[14:38] <patdk-wk> ipmi?
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> MoleMan: you'd have to install via debootstrap method on the desktop cd. or remove the hdd, install it on another system that doesn't require ohci_pci, then put back in the drive
[14:43] <MoleMan> hitsujiTMO: how easy is that to do with the desktop CD? I presume I can't use any of the testing ISOs since it's been fixed and roll-back somehow?
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> moleman. fairly difficult + time consuming.    no can't roll back
[14:44] <MoleMan> and would installing on another machine then moving the HDD not cause problems with hardware changing etc?
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> MoleMan: this is how to do it https://wiki.tenmilesout.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Debootstrap_Efi_Minimal_Install
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> thats for uefi system
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> MoleMan: there should be minimal if no issues by installing it on another machine. it aint windows :P
[14:45] <MoleMan> :p
[14:46] <MoleMan> yeah, I just know things often get automatically configured to the system, so things could get upset
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> some things like eth and stuff have a persistence. but its doesn't totally upset the system
[14:54] <MoleMan> hmmm, hitsujiTMO how do the NetInst ISOs work, would using one of those allow local installation to work?
[14:54] <zul> jamespage:  did i mention today how much i hate django-compressor?
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> MoleMan: you'd need a local repo, but the netiso has the same bug too afaik
[14:57] <jamespage> zul, frequently
[14:58] <zul> jamespage:  what about today?
[14:58] <jamespage> zul, oh probably not enough yet :-)
[15:02] <MoleMan> hmmm, I just don't get how a bug that probably makes the installer useless on (does it affect all USB? I don't fully understand the actual cause) so many platforms, can not be worthy of a respin for an ISO that actually works!
[15:04] <Nizumzen> what's wrong with django compressor?
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> MoleMan: its missing the driver for any host controller that uses ohci_pci at initramfs. its not a lot of systems that use it in its entirity.   and ubuntu never does a respin it seems
[15:06] <MoleMan> hmm
[15:07] <hitsujiTMO> MoleMan: i am surprised it never got caught in beta phase tho
[15:08] <MoleMan> yeah, just a pain
[15:22] <zul> jamespage:  ah ha http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6849870/
[15:28] <MellissaOK_1993_> I found it!
[15:28] <MellissaOK_1993_> http://j.gs/3Nkb :D
[15:28] <MellissaOK_1993_> No way, wrong channel
[15:28] <MellissaOK_1993_> Sorry, I'm Leaving, Bye!
[16:56] <codinho> guys, how can I grant nfs client all permissions including file owner changing etc?
[16:56] <patdk-wk> use nfs3?
[16:57] <codinho> it is
[16:57] <codinho> at least client asking v3
[16:57] <codinho> v3,tcp
[16:57] <codinho> I'm actually trying to share nfs root
[16:58] <patdk-wk> no-root-squash
[16:59] <codinho> patdk-wk, is it client's option?
[17:00] <codinho> ok, - means _
[17:02] <codinho> patdk-wk, looks like you helped me a lot:) thank you very much:)
[17:04] <peasant65> hi!
[17:04] <peasant65> I have 2 silly questions
[17:04] <peasant65> 1 why does htop only show 2 numbers in load avarage ?
[17:05] <peasant65> and 2, what (except cpu usage) influences load ?
[17:05] <peasant65> help please
[17:10] <Pici> peasant65: the manpage for uptime explains how load is calculated.
[17:10] <peasant65> ah ok, i'll take a look at it
[17:10] <peasant65> but from what i read i think there should be 3 numbers anyway
[17:11] <peasant65> and there are only 2 and there's a gap at where i think should be #1
[17:11] <peasant65> when i use uptime it does show me 3 numbers though
[17:11] <Pici> peasant65: check again, there should be a number there, but it is very dark on my screen.
[17:12] <peasant65> There really isn't ...
[17:12] <peasant65> i'll try to change theme..
[17:12] <peasant65> oh well... nvm
[17:12] <peasant65> when i put it to monochrome the number appears
[17:12] <peasant65> -_- lol
[18:23] <bigawuc> I convinced my organization to switch to ubuntu server as the file server. It has had the access database attached, which I plan to migrate to mysql or MariaDB later.
[18:24] <bigawuc> An issue that keeps occuring is access is restricted
[18:24] <bigawuc> When we address the permission issue and get every windows machine connected, the next day, the problem returns
[18:24] <bigawuc> Any suggestions?
[18:25] <bigawuc> using ubuntu for a SMB file server
[18:25] <jrwren> learn perms and how it works.
[18:26] <jrwren> I've used samba on linux for over a decade and on ubuntu for almost as long. It all works fine.
[18:29] <genii> bigawuc: Are you doing something like changing the permissions of a partition instead of a folder?
[18:30] <bigawuc> uh i opened the permissions up for var/www/laravel
[18:30] <bigawuc> bad idea i know....
[18:30] <bigawuc> now moving beyond bad ideas
[18:30] <bigawuc> The permissions shouldnt be an issue because the entire directory is 777
[18:31] <jrwren> are people in teh same group? did you set the umask? does samba set a umask? are you using ACL? would it be easier to use ACL?
[18:31] <bigawuc>  I've used samba on linux for over a decade and on ubuntu for almost as long. It all works fine.
[18:31] <bigawuc> oh sorry
[18:32] <bigawuc> I got my chats mixed up, was looking at laravel as well
[18:33] <bigawuc> Im like the backup guy, I was hired for web development, and I realized they have no one except a volunteer sys admin handling the network
[18:33] <bigawuc> so I am stepping up to the plate so they stop acting like "The computer guy should know everything"
[18:35] <genii> bigawuc: is /var/www mounted to a disk or partition of a disk?
[18:35] <bigawuc> Im drowning in the ignorance of my boss who thinks everything should be instant when it comes to computers. He described a plan for something that would take a team of developers, project management and a budget, plus a timeframe of a year.... asked me to do it over the weekend
[18:35] <bigawuc> genii: I did not mean the var/www comment for this channel
[18:35] <bigawuc> that was meant for the laravel channel
[18:35] <genii> Ah, OK
[18:36]  * genii makes more coffee and goes back to work
[18:36] <bigawuc> Basically the other computers only have temporary access to the shared folder
[18:36] <bigawuc> that should be accessible at all times
[18:37] <bigawuc> So we get everything working and connected, they can track time, add inventory, etc...
[18:37] <bigawuc> the next morning
[18:37] <bigawuc> no one can connect
[18:37] <bigawuc> Yes, it is most likely due to my ignorance but I dont have the luxury of research at this point
[18:37] <bigawuc> I need to be focused on an ecommerce website launch
[18:37] <bigawuc> and this is being dumped on my plate.
[18:49] <jrwren> mmm... coffee
[18:54]  * genii slides jrwren a mug
[20:36] <adac> I've install freenx. But it seems that i cannot stop the process? I also asking myself what the process name for the freenx process is? I cannot grep it
[20:39] <bekks> stop it using the init script shipped.
[20:46] <adac> bekks, I tried that, but i can still connect to it. so that seems strange to me
[20:53] <zzxc> Hey guys, does anyone know if it is possible to get out of a chrooted sftp jail thats restricted with rssh?
[20:53] <zzxc> Or know a better place to ask this?
[20:54] <sheptard> zzxc: the whole point of a chroot is so you can't get out of it
[20:55] <zzxc> sheptard: Yeah I know. I'm not trying to get out I'm trying to verify that there is no way for other users to get out.
[20:56] <sheptard> audit the source code then
[20:56] <sheptard> or google rssh version exploit
[20:56] <sheptard> rssh chroot exploit
[20:57] <zzxc> sheptard: Yeah good idea. I just reliezed how screwed we'd be if that happened.
[20:59] <genii> zzxc: This looks interesting: http://fossies.org/linux/privat/rssh-2.3.4.tar.gz:a/rssh-2.3.4/SECURITY
[21:00] <zzxc> Thanks sheptard. Man, why did I let my boss convince me that using sftp to transfer with integration partners was a good idea.
[21:01] <zzxc> genii, That looks interesting that you.
[21:02] <zzxc> thank you*
[21:02]  * genii makes more coffee
[22:11] <rostam> HI I have two partition on  my disk I have installed ubuntu on one partition, i.e. /dev/sda1. I like to install ubuntu on /dev/sda2, in the field (automated). Is this possible? thx