| ali1234 | bigcalm: can't you get separate headphones and mic? | 00:50 |
|---|---|---|
| ali1234 | i use the mic in my webcam... got no complaints yet | 00:51 |
| mapps | morning | 06:56 |
| diddledan | morning | 06:57 |
| diddledan | (no sleepy yet :-o) | 06:58 |
| diddledan | guess I'm working tired today :-p | 06:58 |
| mapps | no sleep?! lol whats your job | 07:27 |
| shauno | the downside of fighting crime all night, is leaving you rather pooped at the office the next day | 07:31 |
| mapps | lol | 07:33 |
| mapps | theres a documentary about those that dressup as super hereoes and patrol our streets | 07:35 |
| shauno | there was one in the town I used to live in in the states | 07:36 |
| shauno | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/mark-wayne-williams-batman_n_2078873.html | 07:37 |
| mapps | heh | 07:38 |
| mapps | not fmr me..streets are dangerous and they havent got a gun or anything | 07:38 |
| shauno | the funny thing is, when you hear him do interviews .. he doesn't actually come off as nuts | 07:39 |
| diddledan | so.. umm.. deb packaging | 07:41 |
| diddledan | via launchpad ppas | 07:41 |
| diddledan | I'm struggling to find out how to get it to build for multiple releases of ubuntu using the same package definition | 07:42 |
| diddledan | aah, second argument to dput? | 07:46 |
| diddledan | dput ppa:me/foo distro | 07:46 |
| mapps | yea# | 07:46 |
| * diddledan tries | 07:47 | |
| mapps | what uyou packaging | 07:47 |
| diddledan | I need to finish working on the package first I guess :-p | 07:47 |
| diddledan | libgeos to provide a php binding | 07:47 |
| diddledan | https://github.com/phayes/geoPHP/wiki/GEOS | 07:47 |
| mapps | whats libgeos? | 07:48 |
| MartijnVdS | according to apt, "A geometry engine for GIS" | 07:48 |
| diddledan | yeah, that | 07:48 |
| diddledan | wtf? it's only 8am and stuff's just come through my door?! | 07:49 |
| mapps | lol | 07:49 |
| mapps | where do you live?! our posts like 1pm | 07:49 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: what kind of stuff? | 07:49 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: stuff you actually want? ;) | 07:49 |
| mapps | ah stuff..i assumed post | 07:49 |
| diddledan | no :-( boring advertisement for flooring direct to my door (should I want it) | 07:50 |
| diddledan | yeah, my post is usually around 1-2 | 07:50 |
| mapps | you not worried about work? id hate to work if id had 0 sleep | 07:52 |
| diddledan | does apt-source allow you to pull a different release's source package? | 07:52 |
| diddledan | apt-get source** | 07:52 |
| diddledan | nah, I'll be fine :-p | 07:52 |
| diddledan | I've got plenty of cola | 07:53 |
| mapps | you work from home? guess could be ok if so | 07:53 |
| mapps | but in the office..ugh | 07:53 |
| mapps | workaholics is so good:) | 07:53 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: yes, it does allow that | 07:54 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: if you have the appropriate deb-src line in sources.list{,.d/*} | 07:54 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:06 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:07 |
| knightwise | morning ! ! | 08:19 |
| knightwise | FrrrrrrIdayyyy ! | 08:19 |
| brobostigon | morning knightwise | 08:20 |
| knightwise | how are you peeps doing today ? | 08:20 |
| brobostigon | my brain needs waking up. | 08:20 |
| brobostigon | caffine injection required. | 08:21 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: tea time then? | 08:21 |
| brobostigon | coffee time, :) | 08:21 |
| brobostigon | two pebble fw updates in two days, quick working, :) | 08:22 |
| popey | On the way home from the London office the other day I sat next to a guy who had a pebble watch | 08:23 |
| popey | I got talking to him. Turns out he's an Ubuntu user. | 08:23 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:23 |
| brobostigon | cool. | 08:23 |
| diddledan | popey: we're getting everywhere! | 08:23 |
| brobostigon | pebble users, yes, :) | 08:24 |
| popey | turns out he also does translations on launchpad | 08:24 |
| popey | so that was nice to hear | 08:24 |
| popey | he's a en_GB pedant | 08:24 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 08:24 |
| brobostigon | maybe he can help with some of the pebble app trnslations also, | 08:25 |
| popey | it was funny really, i only got talking to him because i liked the look of the ipad game he was playing | 08:25 |
| popey | noticed he also had python and vim on his ipad | 08:26 |
| popey | figured he must be a geek | 08:26 |
| popey | So unbritish to talk to strangers on the train ☻ | 08:26 |
| diddledan | the movie of that title tells us why it's a bad idea™ | 08:27 |
| * knightwise is getting his note 3 tomorrow <°> | 08:28 | |
| brobostigon | is that one of the ones thats a tablet or a phablet ? | 08:30 |
| SuperMatt | when you change the time of a cron job to test it during the day, it's a good idea to change it back to when it was supposed to be >.< | 08:37 |
| * popey bought a fan to cool down his bitcoin miners. they run a touch hot | 08:45 | |
| MartijnVdS | popey: lower heating bill! | 08:45 |
| popey | MartijnVdS: indeed! move the heat around | 08:52 |
| dwatkins | popey: what kind of machines are you using for that? | 09:01 |
| popey | usb jobbies | 09:02 |
| popey | not very powerful, got them cheap for a bit of fun | 09:02 |
| MartijnVdS | "it's the cheapest way to get a lot of fans!" | 09:03 |
| dwatkins | That reminds me, I need to fit fans to my TV cabinet (the NAS lives in it) | 09:08 |
| MartijnVdS | my NAS lives in an old kitchen cabinet I've moved into my computer room | 09:09 |
| MartijnVdS | I've also put it on washing machine "feet" to reduce vibration | 09:09 |
| jussi | Hrm, anyone know any decent/reasonable priced/nice B&B's/hotels in or around liverpool area? | 09:15 |
| jussi | lets say in a 50 mile radius ? | 09:15 |
| jussi | MartijnVdS: thats actually a very good idea, washing machine feet under the nas! | 09:16 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: "decent" + "liverpool area" -> no matches found | 09:16 |
| jussi | MartijnVdS: nasty | 09:16 |
| directhex | new on linux! a game about deception! you play as the father to a suburban family, desperately hoping nobody realises you're an octopus in a suit and not a human at all. http://store.steampowered.com/app/224480/ | 09:16 |
| MartijnVdS | directhex: w.. wut? | 09:17 |
| jussi | directhex: do you get to eat the people that realise? | 09:17 |
| directhex | jussi, how would an octopus eat people? | 09:17 |
| jussi | directhex: "sluuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp" | 09:17 |
| directhex | MartijnVdS, "Octodad: Dadliest Catch is a game about destruction, deception, and fatherhood. The player controls Octodad, a dapper octopus masquerading as a human, as he goes about his life. Octodad's existence is a constant struggle, as he must master mundane tasks with his unwieldy boneless tentacles while simultaneously keeping his cephalopodan nature a secret from his human family. " | 09:17 |
| MartijnVdS | directhex: it looks as if the controls work the same as in Surgeon Simulator | 09:18 |
| directhex | MartijnVdS, that comparison has been made in reviews! | 09:18 |
| jussi | MartijnVdS: mind, When I first read your statement about the NAS... it went something like: "my NSA lives in an old kitchen cabinet I've moved into my computer room" | 09:19 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: http://i.imgur.com/96UJIIo.png | 09:19 |
| diddledan | lol | 09:21 |
| diddledan | fools | 09:21 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Washing-Machine-Anti-Vibration-Feet-x-4-for-appliances-dampers-/190549284550 <-- I've used feet like those | 09:21 |
| knightwise | anyone going to fosdem in need of a cheap dataplan for the weekend ? | 09:22 |
| knightwise | 15 euros for 2 gigs ? | 09:22 |
| * MartijnVdS waits for the "Roaming in Europe costs exactly the same as using your phone at home" thing the EU is pushing | 09:23 | |
| * awilkins goes RARR because Empathy doesn't support proxies | 09:23 | |
| jussi | MartijnVdS: I have a set of those in the cupboard | 09:23 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: but proxies would confuse people! they're extra configuration settings! | 09:23 |
| shauno | oh hell yeah. I'm currently on "costs exactly the same as at home .. for the first 25Mb. then we'll get you!" | 09:23 |
| jussi | shauno: ouch | 09:24 |
| jussi | I have a nice one that allows me to have unlimited in Nordic countries, but anywhere else you get slogged | 09:24 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: Mine is currently "You get 35MB/day for €2, and €max/kb after that" | 09:24 |
| awilkins | I have a desire to implement a super-proxy that just provides a proxy that understands the heck out of every proxy config out there and just provides a local proxy server that stupid apps can grok | 09:24 |
| jussi | awilkins: a proxy for a proxy? | 09:24 |
| awilkins | IE super-proxy knows NTLM/SSPI and PAC scripts and all that jazz | 09:24 |
| awilkins | jussi, | 09:25 |
| jussi | awilkins: :D | 09:25 |
| awilkins | Yeah, the main problem is that I have a PAC script, and all the OS does is hand the URL of the script to the app that asks for system proxy config | 09:25 |
| awilkins | Which is fine for browsers | 09:25 |
| shauno | I'm fighting with that at the moment. an app that doesn't grok NTLM, but also refuses to use any alternative methods provided by the same proxy | 09:25 |
| awilkins | But virtually nothing else understands PAC scripts or NTLM | 09:25 |
| popey | jussi: i stayed in base2stay in the centre of liverpool for oggcamp | 09:26 |
| popey | jussi: booked through booking.com | 09:26 |
| MartijnVdS | booking.com has useful reviews usually | 09:28 |
| popey | yeah, Dave2 and I got the "last room" (we ended up with a room each) | 09:29 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Chinese New Year! :-D | 09:31 |
| popey | 新年好 | 09:33 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: gesundheit | 09:33 |
| diddledan | lol | 09:33 |
| JamesTait | popey, that looks different to what I was looking at last night. | 09:35 |
| jussi | thanks popey, Ill have a look there. | 09:46 |
| jussi | Might be worth while waiting for the booking, as the football that weekend just got cancelled and I guess some of the places might get cancellations | 09:46 |
| Laney | wow | 09:49 |
| Laney | this train conductor knows all of the platforms for everybody's changes | 09:49 |
| directhex | ooh, a linux port is coming for multi-award-winning eastern european bureaucracy simulator Papers Please | 10:17 |
| jussi | directhex: that sounds.... scary? | 10:19 |
| directhex | http://store.steampowered.com/app/239030/ | 10:20 |
| diddledan | dpkg-buildpackage -S <-- it's complaining about : gpg: cancelled by user | 10:23 |
| diddledan | i.e. it's not asking me for my password | 10:24 |
| shauno | re: "papers, please"; I'll admit, I don't get it | 10:25 |
| diddledan | how do I get gpg-agent to know what my password should be? | 10:27 |
| diddledan | (commandline) | 10:27 |
| diddledan | it's a network box I'm working on, so no gui | 10:27 |
| twager | Anyone tell me if the Nokia Lumia mobiles mount as a block device in Linux ? | 10:28 |
| bashrc | I did add a gpg section to a cheat command a while ago | 10:28 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Agent-Configuration.html ? | 10:29 |
| diddledan | yeah, so that doesn't help | 10:30 |
| MartijnVdS | I guess you just decrypt/sign something. Then the agent will ask for your passphrase, then the key is loaded? | 10:33 |
| diddledan | but I'm already trying to sign something via dpkg-buildpackage | 10:33 |
| diddledan | it's supposed to prompt for a password according to docs | 10:34 |
| diddledan | but it ain't doing it | 10:34 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: do you have a "pinentry" like directive in gnupg.conf? | 10:34 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: which is set to something sensible | 10:34 |
| diddledan | no idea. it's an out-of-the-box ubuntu 12.04.3 server | 10:34 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: yeah, you need to read a bit about configuring gnupg-agent then :) | 10:35 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: it's not as plug&play as you'd hope :( | 10:35 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Laney | screaming train child of woe | 10:43 |
| jussi | this is an interesting 3D thing kinda like second life: http://www.meshmoon.com/ - based on opensource (realxtend). The web client uses webgl and websockets. its pretty cool stuff :) | 10:48 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: I'm not sure what fixed it but after logging out and back-in the password prompt works | 11:13 |
| diddledan | I think it was a combo-meal of installing pinentry-curses (as opposed to the already installed -gtk2 version) and logging-out and in | 11:14 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: cool! | 11:16 |
| foobarry | firefox smooth scrolling is anything but | 11:20 |
| foobarry | text rippage more like | 11:20 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|dentist | ||
| diddledan | it's old, but I just rediscovered it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXV-yaFmQNk | 11:22 |
| foobarry | anyone used MS terminal services gateway? | 11:36 |
| foobarry | need a rdp over https solution | 11:37 |
| diplo | not used the TS gateway, we used to use a Cisco ASA to do a https solution, worked quite well ( can't remember the exact set up though ) | 11:41 |
| diddledan | ooh, I forgot we made that "live": http://mitocare.be/ | 12:04 |
| diddledan | yey for the belgish | 12:05 |
| diddledan | with their flemmy-speak | 12:05 |
| diddledan | (nederlands) | 12:05 |
| MartijnVdS | Fleghmish | 12:15 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | buggy licious: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geos/+bug/1274916 | 12:48 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 1274916 in geos (Ubuntu) "missing php library support" [Undecided,New] | 12:49 |
| diddledan | ppa licious: https://launchpad.net/~diddledan/+archive/libgeos | 12:49 |
| === alan_g|dentist is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| daftykins | hey guys, i forget where it was but did anyone else read that all A.M. broadcast is being switched off? | 13:01 |
| foobarry | no | 13:02 |
| foobarry | one day i expect , a rolling traget of 5 years? | 13:02 |
| daftykins | but the BBC definitely started doing it right? | 13:02 |
| daftykins | i read somewhere a while back that they'd begun doing it to see if anyone noticed | 13:02 |
| foobarry | all football fans everywhere | 13:02 |
| foobarry | they would notice | 13:03 |
| DJones | daftykins: http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/nov/09/bbc-criticised-closing-medium-wave-radio | 13:03 |
| daftykins | DJones: ty sir | 13:03 |
| DJones | Seems to say that it won't be done in the near future after complaints | 13:04 |
| daftykins | indeedy | 13:04 |
| foobarry | http://www.wimp.com/travelsworld/ | 13:04 |
| foobarry | brilliant | 13:04 |
| daftykins | so many of those kindsa things nwo | 13:06 |
| daftykins | *now | 13:06 |
| foobarry | rather them than me | 13:06 |
| daftykins | yeah | 13:07 |
| foobarry | i hope he got time to enjoy the places | 13:07 |
| daftykins | looks like he could be arsen's brother :D | 13:07 |
| foobarry | they are always good looking people | 13:07 |
| foobarry | remember the one being led by his hot girlfriends hand? | 13:07 |
| daftykins | nope | 13:08 |
| foobarry | the firefox home page search bar never works | 13:08 |
| daftykins | huh? part of the UI or the actual google search box? | 13:09 |
| foobarry | the about:startpage | 13:09 |
| foobarry | which is the default firefox home page | 13:09 |
| daftykins | that page doesn't exist in mine | 13:09 |
| foobarry | version? | 13:09 |
| daftykins | 26 | 13:09 |
| foobarry | me too | 13:10 |
| daftykins | tried a clean profile? | 13:10 |
| foobarry | nope | 13:10 |
| daftykins | entering about:startpage doesn't work | 13:10 |
| foobarry | weird | 13:10 |
| daftykins | i've definitely seen the result you describe, typing in works but hitting enter would do nothing | 13:10 |
| foobarry | yeah | 13:10 |
| daftykins | but now i just have an orange 'Firefox' with small logo where the certificate info usually is - and an empty address field | 13:11 |
| foobarry | hmm | 13:11 |
| foobarry | sample size of 2 doesnt' tell us who's got the problem. but i think its me | 13:11 |
| daftykins | i'm on Windows mind | 13:11 |
| foobarry | :-o | 13:11 |
| daftykins | (shh don't tell them) | 13:11 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/sh74tyvfzxk5fbh/ff.png | 13:12 |
| daftykins | is that what you see? | 13:12 |
| foobarry | yes | 13:12 |
| * foobarry waits for a buntu user | 13:12 | |
| * foobarry eats some chocolate | 13:12 | |
| daftykins | *boots VM* | 13:13 |
| daftykins | only got 13.10 mind | 13:13 |
| arsen | hi | 13:14 |
| daftykins | he's alive! | 13:14 |
| daftykins | arsen that guy is your long lost brother | 13:14 |
| daftykins | how do sir? | 13:14 |
| arsen | good thanks | 13:15 |
| arsen | apparently i'm a goodlooking traveller? | 13:15 |
| daftykins | lol yes | 13:15 |
| arsen | i do like to travel. | 13:15 |
| MartijnVdS | http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Traveler ? | 13:15 |
| daftykins | i'd be somewhat less suspicious of arsen trying to groom Wesley Crusher if he were him | 13:16 |
| daftykins | :P | 13:16 |
| arsen | whaaatt | 13:16 |
| daftykins | Star Trek character | 13:16 |
| arsen | yeah i got that reference - i have a small star trek watching past | 13:17 |
| daftykins | ah ok | 13:17 |
| daftykins | well he was a bit suspect with Wesley of course | 13:17 |
| daftykins | ;D | 13:17 |
| daftykins | (shut up Wesley!) | 13:17 |
| DJones | As he faded in and out .... Oooh-Er | 13:18 |
| DJones | Seem to remember there was an episode where the traveller kept phasing in & out of time | 13:19 |
| DJones | Or was that another character | 13:19 |
| foobarry | arggh ubuntu one hasn't been updating | 13:20 |
| daftykins | hmm not sure | 13:21 |
| foobarry | State: AUTH_FAILED | 13:21 |
| diddledan | gotta love dr bev crusher's last words to wesley as he leaves with the traveler: "you've gotta keep warm on those other plains of existance" (or similar, as she wraps him in a jumper) | 13:21 |
| daftykins | foobarry: hmm v26 on saucy worked fine, i typed in 'test' and hit enter | 13:21 |
| daftykins | diddledan: ;) | 13:22 |
| arsen | sorry, distracted - someone just delivered two dozen krispy kremes to my desk | 13:22 |
| diddledan | oh.. emm.. gee..\ | 13:22 |
| MartijnVdS | arsen: poidh | 13:22 |
| diddledan | krispy kremes is unfair | 13:22 |
| foobarry | and not that nice | 13:23 |
| diddledan | true | 13:23 |
| diddledan | better than nowt? | 13:23 |
| foobarry | i have chocolate | 13:23 |
| arsen | ill send pic to daftykins for confirmation | 13:23 |
| foobarry | of good looks? | 13:23 |
| diddledan | <3 chocolate | 13:23 |
| arsen | gurth, foobarry | 13:24 |
| arsen | apparently we have a shipment of M&S chocolate rounds incoming too | 13:24 |
| arsen | this is going to be a terrible afternoon of riding the sugar rollercoaster | 13:24 |
| arsen | daftykins are you not on whatsapp? (i dont blame you) | 13:26 |
| MartijnVdS | u wotsapp, m8 | 13:26 |
| dwatkins | !u | 13:26 |
| lubotu3 | U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'ryt', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. | 13:26 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/u-wot-m8 | 13:26 |
| dwatkins | ah yes | 13:27 |
| daftykins | arsen: yeah i'm on it sir | 13:27 |
| arsen | if only there were an insta-upload-generate-a-link app for iphone that i actually had | 13:27 |
| foobarry | o365 kills firefox in an instant | 13:28 |
| daftykins | arsen: perhaps you only have an old UK # for me? | 13:28 |
| BigRedS | Eurgh. Apache seems to have had some peciliar ideas in 2.4.6. Or at least the debian maintainers have :( | 13:28 |
| dwatkins | I thought that was exactly what imgur's app did, arsen | 13:28 |
| arsen | probably does - i tried to install a caveat in the statement, hinting if anyone knew of one :p | 13:29 |
| dwatkins | also, dropbox | 13:29 |
| arsen | pah not a fan of dropbox | 13:29 |
| arsen | its too "happy" | 13:29 |
| MartijnVdS | arsen: you want a Gothbox? | 13:30 |
| dwatkins | so there are many apps, you just don't like them ;) | 13:30 |
| daftykins | krispy kreme situation confirmed | 13:30 |
| daftykins | arsen tells truths! | 13:30 |
| dwatkins | Emobox | 13:30 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| arsen | :D | 13:30 |
| daftykins | arsen: is that a packet of HP brown sauce to the right of your HP mouse? | 13:30 |
| daftykins | :> | 13:30 |
| daftykins | s/packet/sachet/ | 13:30 |
| arsen | its not my desk, technicaly - i put them on a colleagues | 13:31 |
| daftykins | ah :D | 13:31 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: HP Brown sauce, isn't that what you get when you mix up deskjet cartridges? :) | 13:31 |
| arsen | he be away. | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | actually if you mix together a lot of inkjet ink, you get purple | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | don't ask why i know this | 13:32 |
| daftykins | aww do tell | 13:32 |
| arsen | THAT's my desk :) | 13:40 |
| diplo | BigRedS: all vhost files need to end in .conf afaik, it searches for that afaik | 13:41 |
| arsen | still nothing particularly thrilling | 13:41 |
| diplo | Same on centos | 13:41 |
| BigRedS | diplo: yeah that's the stupid thing | 13:48 |
| BigRedS | makes no sense: http://avi.co/s/apacheconf.png | 13:48 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: look in sites-enabled | 13:49 |
| MartijnVdS | oh wait you're doing that | 13:49 |
| arsen | i stopped using apache in favour of lighttpd to try and get some consistency in vhost setup - every apache version seems to have a different way of doing things :< | 13:50 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: it does make sense: you say "ensite avi", it starts looking for "avi.conf", can't find it. Then you rename "avi" to "avi.conf", and then a2ensite van see it | 13:50 |
| BigRedS | but up until Wheezy if I did a2ensite avi it'd link the file named 'avi' | 13:52 |
| BigRedS | I don't get what's fixed by not doing that any more | 13:52 |
| BigRedS | why would I have files in sites-enabled that I don't want apache to parse? | 13:52 |
| diplo | Ah right, malformed files.. or having .old's being enabled | 13:52 |
| diplo | I test on sites and disable them by mv site.conf to site.disabled | 13:52 |
| diplo | So it's good in my use case | 13:52 |
| BigRedS | why not just use a2ensite/a2dissite? | 13:53 |
| diplo | Not on CentOS and other distros, that's Ubuntu/Debian? specific | 13:53 |
| diplo | I use ubuntu for mine, but work still use centos | 13:53 |
| arsen | ^ | 13:53 |
| BigRedS | oh, yeah, this is a Debian thing | 13:53 |
| arsen | another confusing thing - tools seem to not be shared globally. | 13:54 |
| BigRedS | well, different distros set things up differently. And RH tends to get it wrong :) | 13:54 |
| diplo | CentOS looks for .confs as well, so that seems standardised so I guess the debian guys followed suit | 13:54 |
| diplo | arsen: +1 it sucks | 13:54 |
| arsen | yeah, sadly i've spent my last few years flipping between debian, ubuntu, centos, suse, gentoo etc - so i gave up in the end :( | 13:55 |
| diplo | I do a2ensite first off on most distros and then when it doesn't work I remember to do the rest | 13:56 |
| diplo | Also /etc/apache2 and centos /etc/httpd :/ | 13:56 |
| BigRedS | /etc/httpd/conf no less | 13:56 |
| foobarry | how do i unlink with someone on linkedin? | 13:56 |
| arsen | yeah that too diplo .. heh | 13:57 |
| diplo | Write scripts, I have to allow for more cases of paths.. and centos doesn't have sites-avai and sites-ena | 13:57 |
| BigRedS | because there's also logs under/etc just to make greppng a bit more of an arse | 13:57 |
| diplo | I could of course make them | 13:57 |
| arsen | combined with new and old distro versions - you get init.d, service httpd, service apache2 etcetc | 13:57 |
| diplo | sound like old mean moaning :D | 13:57 |
| foobarry | ah found it | 13:57 |
| diplo | heh, at least I know it's not just me complaining to myself about these things :) | 13:57 |
| BigRedS | well, computers are supposed to make things easier. I think it's fair to moan when they make things harder. | 13:58 |
| BigRedS | that's what twitter's for, isn't it? | 13:58 |
| diplo | heh | 13:59 |
| arsen | pretty much BigRedS - my twitter account exists for complaining primarily. | 14:00 |
| arsen | whatcha upto daftykins ? | 14:00 |
| diddledan | I can't remember the last time I twatted | 14:03 |
| daftykins | arsen: ah been tethered to the house from Wednesday through to this morning whilst having a new boiler fitted, got jobs to go to but it's raining so i'm debating going :D | 14:05 |
| daftykins | none are urgent | 14:05 |
| arsen | :) | 14:05 |
| arsen | not been whisked up in the cryptocoin wave yet? | 14:05 |
| MartijnVdS | dogecoin? | 14:06 |
| daftykins | might be down to my lack of understanding, but i thought we'd passed the main peak of things | 14:06 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: for now, probably | 14:06 |
| daftykins | and all methods to obtain seem to be wrought with cost-defeating issues | 14:07 |
| Myrtti | dunning-krugerrands </3 | 14:07 |
| arsen | well we've passed about 50 peaks | 14:10 |
| arsen | its creating a new financial industry, its not a craze that hits off - BTC is going for years solidly now | 14:11 |
| Myrtti | I refrain from making comments | 14:11 |
| foobarry | sometimes being correct isn't sufficient when everybody else is doing it ;P | 14:17 |
| * foobarry remembers the dotcom buble | 14:17 | |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: doesn't mean you can't get rich off it ;) | 14:17 |
| daftykins | heh | 14:19 |
| ali1234 | somebody needs to do a mash up of kim dotcom and michael buble | 14:19 |
| Myrtti | my own personal and in no way connected with the possible opinion(s) of others, real persons or entities, is that I wish that people would try to get rich with their chosen dunning-krugerrands somewhere else than on freenode. | 14:20 |
| Myrtti | *opinion | 14:21 |
| ali1234 | i don't understand why freenode allows all those shady exchanges to run channels | 14:21 |
| ali1234 | a lot of them are blatantly illegal | 14:21 |
| Myrtti | and beyond saying that, I won't explain or go into detail, or speculate. | 14:21 |
| Myrtti | for obvious reasons | 14:22 |
| arsen | Myrtti - yes - the crypto community is full of tards and its definitely having an impact on freenode. | 15:00 |
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| DC-D | thats the one | 15:47 |
| cocoa117 | how do you show all the routing tables for the local machine? i know ip route show table local shows the all the routing rules for the local table. | 16:09 |
| cocoa117 | how do i list all the available tables? | 16:09 |
| ali1234 | route -n | 16:10 |
| cocoa117 | ali1234, that's only for main table isn't? | 16:24 |
| dwatkins | ali1234: they look pretty similar: http://hastebin.com/ranehofelo.txt | 16:26 |
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| daftykins | ugh, clients iMac still spamming raw postscript to her printer mid-job | 18:57 |
| daftykins | and said iMac has frozen once more also | 18:57 |
| shauno | I thought printers like postscript :) | 19:14 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: proper printers do ;) But see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAdspOtgciQ | 19:16 |
| daftykins | shauno: seems this one likes to have a hissy fit | 19:19 |
| shauno | I believe it's also traditional for printers to have hissy fits. see: "PC Load Letter", "lp0 on fire", etc | 19:21 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:26 |
| daftykins | they're on holiday this coming week so i shall disassemble the iMac and do a thermal paste re-do i think | 19:26 |
| daftykins | plus check any ducts/vents what not for dust | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | hmm | 19:27 |
| shauno | heh, you're a braver man than I. I don't open them for anything less than an autopsy | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | today's trusty = no GTK theme in Chrome/QT apps? | 19:27 |
| daftykins | shauno: i did an SSD upgrade in this one last year :) | 19:28 |
| daftykins | i have the suction cup for the glass! | 19:29 |
| daftykins | shauno: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6sdd47qxbhfpf6/IMG_20130315_165142.jpg | 19:29 |
| daftykins | simples ;) | 19:29 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: is that SSD just.. hanging there? | 19:29 |
| daftykins | double-sided tape sir! | 19:29 |
| shauno | I've seen that done with a toilet plunger before. which may seem particularly apt when you're half way through the process | 19:29 |
| daftykins | well, sticky pads actually | 19:29 |
| daftykins | XD | 19:29 |
| daftykins | you have to stand the glass up safely somewhere to avoid dust contamination on the inside | 19:30 |
| shauno | completely off-topic, but I have to grump; paying $60 for a game, and then having to find a crack for it before you can use it. not cool. | 19:32 |
| daftykins | my Apple employee mate says i should reinstall to resolve the freezes | 19:32 |
| daftykins | crack!? why-so? | 19:32 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: that's worse than Windows! | 19:32 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: there it's just "Oh reboot and it'll be fine" | 19:32 |
| shauno | it wants the DVD in the drive. my dvdrom is in a drawer somewhere | 19:32 |
| MartijnVdS | Apple? Reinstall, it'll be fine | 19:32 |
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: haha it's not official advice, i did this SSD install and a clean Mavericks install myself | 19:33 |
| daftykins | shauno: can't you feed the code into Steam and play discless? :> | 19:33 |
| daftykins | assuming it's such a title | 19:33 |
| shauno | it's not such a title :( | 19:33 |
| daftykins | aww | 19:33 |
| daftykins | Fight Club 2 on the way | 19:45 |
| daftykins | 0o | 19:45 |
| shauno | one I saw floating around recently, scenes from fight club with tyler edited out | 20:10 |
| daftykins | 0o | 20:10 |
| shauno | http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1vmqwl/fight_club_with_tyler_durden_digitally_removed/ | 20:11 |
| shauno | oddly, it appears I'm banned from vimeo, so I can't see it atm | 20:12 |
| shauno | ohh, interesting. they're blocking the referrer. if you just hit refresh it's fine. iiiiinteresting | 20:12 |
| daftykins | haha | 20:16 |
| daftykins | ty sir | 20:16 |
| bigcalm | Very clever | 20:47 |
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| shauno | how on earth is it 9pm already? sorcery! | 21:41 |
| diddledan | it's not, it's nearly 10pm | 21:43 |
| shauno | shouldn't you be comatose? | 21:46 |
| popey | i should pack | 21:47 |
| daftykins | more jetsetting for popey!? | 21:47 |
| popey | a bit | 21:47 |
| shauno | fosdem? | 21:48 |
| popey | nah, company sprint | 21:48 |
| shauno | I need to have a word with Spotify. it's suggesting The Mamas & The Papas :( | 21:52 |
| shauno | slightly uncomfortable when the computer guesses I'm 50 | 21:53 |
| diddledan | you mean you're not? | 21:54 |
| mapps | bourne supremacy on tv | 22:01 |
| mapps | ;] | 22:01 |
| diddledan | which one was that? | 22:03 |
| mapps | 2nd i think | 22:03 |
| diddledan | does anybody have any strong opinions on haxe? I'm wondering whether it could become a language to unify all my development under | 22:11 |
| diddledan | I like that the same language compiles to native code and php and javascript with no changes | 22:12 |
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| === stuphi is now known as stuphi_away | ||
| === stuphi_away is now known as stuphi | ||
| === stuphi is now known as stuphi_away | ||
| shauno | is mono still a thing? | 23:18 |
| diddledan | shauno: yeah | 23:26 |
| popey | shauno: yeah, loads of games use it | 23:27 |
| diddledan | shauno: go-mono.smth | 23:27 |
| diddledan | .net? | 23:27 |
| diddledan | aah, they moved: http://mono-project.com/ | 23:27 |
| shauno | hm. it feels oddly abandoned on osx | 23:28 |
| diddledan | the parent company spun out of the dying days of novell/suse have a commercial monoTouch and monoAndroid (now renamed after the company Xamarin) | 23:29 |
| popey | used in unity3d for example on windows/osx/ios/android/wii/playstation/xbox/linux | 23:29 |
| diddledan | that's at http://xamarin.com/ | 23:29 |
| diddledan | yeah unity3d relies on it extensively | 23:30 |
| diddledan | aparently microsoft are a customer of xamarin? | 23:31 |
| popey | unsurprising | 23:31 |
| diddledan | why would microsoft need to buy tech that reimplements something they invented? | 23:31 |
| popey | they didnt implement it on xbox did they? | 23:31 |
| popey | or windows phone? | 23:31 |
| shauno | hm, I wonder if I can figure out what version of mono that uses | 23:32 |
| diddledan | why do I have tom jones singing it's not unusual in my head right now? | 23:35 |
| diddledan | oh god, and now I've just gone onto visuals of carlton (fresh prince) dancing | 23:35 |
| diddledan | I'm a sick sick son of a. | 23:36 |
| shauno | ooh, monodoc actually runs. so maybe it's not completely broken | 23:41 |
| mapps | hm | 23:43 |
| mapps | think il watch one of the narnia films tonight | 23:44 |
| mapps | ;] | 23:44 |
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