| pleia2 | hey knome | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | hello pleia2 | 00:21 |
| pleia2 | we should take this and s/mint/xubuntu http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/poster/start-ubuntu-addis-announcement | 00:21 |
| knome | pleia2, for the flyer, or in addition? | 00:22 |
| pleia2 | in addition | 00:22 |
| pleia2 | this is a short term thing, probably easy | 00:22 |
| pleia2 | just need to like two sentences and a screenshot and logo :) | 00:22 |
| knome | i can do the same without ubuntu and create an all-xubuntu look for it | 00:22 |
| bluesabre | knome is an over-achiever | 00:23 |
| pleia2 | seems like a lot of work, and I do kind of like the ubuntu anchor (since people are starting to know what it is, or at least that it is) | 00:23 |
| knome | or leave ubuntu for lesser role, without screenshots and stuff | 00:23 |
| knome | ubuntu or startubuntu? | 00:23 |
| pleia2 | ubuntu | 00:23 |
| knome | ok, we can leave that | 00:23 |
| knome | i don't have problems creating a new page either though | 00:24 |
| knome | wondering what the source format is | 00:24 |
| knome | sla, so scribus | 00:24 |
| knome | i can do that. | 00:24 |
| knome | i guess my hidden thought is that once i've done one poster, we have a template for those | 00:25 |
| pleia2 | I just think this is nice to get done real quick and out the door | 00:25 |
| knome | give me the weekend, and i'll be ready with it | 00:25 |
| pleia2 | I do still want the xubuntu one finished, but scale is only 3 weeks away now and I'm not sure I'll have time to print that | 00:25 |
| knome | do you also want the "don't hesitate to write me..." | 00:27 |
| pleia2 | knome: delete that, maybe replace with some kind of generic help link | 00:27 |
| knome | ok | 00:27 |
| knome | i'll be in touch with you at latest on monday with a draft | 00:28 |
| knome | so letter and A4 ? | 00:28 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 00:28 |
| knome | oki | 00:28 |
| pleia2 | good golly, http://www.ubuntu.com/support still lists lp answers | 00:28 |
| knome | bluesabre, me? :P | 00:28 |
| pleia2 | imma file ze bug | 00:28 |
| knome | lol | 00:28 |
| knome | pleia2, if you have time, please write the text you want | 00:29 |
| pleia2 | will do momentarily | 00:29 |
| knome | no hurry, i can draft with the existing text | 00:29 |
| knome | bluesabre, this is something i do for clients, usually in an even tighter schedule... | 00:31 |
| knome | "can you do me a two-sided a4 broschure with our logos, the deadline is yesterday at noon" | 00:31 |
| knome | and how can i say no to them? their money is so cute! | 00:32 |
| * Unit193 votes for the Xubuntu branded one. :P | 00:32 | |
| bluesabre | lol | 00:33 |
| bluesabre | yeah, but startubuntu can help spread the good word :) | 00:33 |
| knome | sure | 00:33 |
| knome | we're not competing their flyer ;) | 00:35 |
| knome | and i imagine there is people who wish to mostly advocate xubuntu | 00:36 |
| knome | so who not do that, if there's nothing blocking that and it doesn't eat a lot of our time? | 00:36 |
| knome | seriously, that looks like a 15-30minute task | 00:37 |
| knome | and i don't need to even bend time to be able to send the pdf out yesterday! :P | 00:38 |
| pleia2 | I plan on having this uploaded to spreadubuntu.org and sharing it right back with the startubuntu folks | 00:43 |
| pleia2 | I've been involved in the thread developing it, the mint thing surprised me and no likey ;) | 00:43 |
| pleia2 | mint ships things that aren't legal to ship in the US, so promoting it is not really my thing | 00:43 |
| knome | promoting mint is not really my thing either | 00:44 |
| pleia2 | now I need to stop looking at ubuntu.com, 2 bugs today is enough | 00:44 |
| knome | even if i don't think it's bad OS, nor do i have problems with their us-legal stuff | 00:45 |
| knome | pleia2, you ok to drop the startubuntu banner though? | 00:45 |
| pleia2 | I dunno, I was thinking we keep it | 00:46 |
| knome | oh bah | 00:46 |
| knome | :) | 00:46 |
| knome | pleia2, btw... slickymaster probably needs a shell. | 00:47 |
| pleia2 | sure thing | 00:47 |
| knome | but i'm off to sleep | 00:47 |
| pleia2 | have a good night :) | 00:47 |
| slickymaster | whatie?! | 00:47 |
| knome | need to wake up relatively early tomorrow | 00:47 |
| knome | slickymaster, ha! | 00:47 |
| knome | nighty to you all as well :) | 00:47 |
| pleia2 | slickymaster: want a shell account? | 00:47 |
| knome | pleia2, psst, he doesn't know he needs it! | 00:47 |
| pleia2 | the server only randomly reboots every month or so :) | 00:48 |
| pleia2 | haha | 00:48 |
| slickymaster | I don't even know what are you talking about :) | 00:48 |
| pleia2 | it's how forestpiskie stays on the ircs all the time! | 00:48 |
| knome | and bluesabre | 00:48 |
| bluesabre | yup | 00:48 |
| slickymaster | hmm, a shell account in what? | 00:48 |
| knome | slickymaster, in pleia2's server you silly one. | 00:49 |
| knome | slickymaster, you could run an irc client that's on all the time, so we could poke you all day long. | 00:49 |
| * slickymaster has to read the logs before asking :P | 00:49 | |
| pleia2 | I have a community server set up to give people shell accounts on and host various ubuntu projects (and things like files for our wallpaper contest) | 00:49 |
| bluesabre | thanks for your help with that, pleia2 | 00:49 |
| knome | yes, thank you! | 00:49 |
| knome | slickymaster, there's no logs about it :D | 00:50 |
| knome | slickymaster, i just set you up! | 00:50 |
| slickymaster | I mean on the -dev channel | 00:50 |
| knome | i'm lost but that's ok | 00:50 |
| knome | off to bed :) | 00:51 |
| slickymaster | well, during work hours I'm behind a proxy | 00:51 |
| pleia2 | ah | 00:51 |
| pleia2 | so you'd need to get out on port 22 | 00:51 |
| * Unit193 wonders if pleia2 has ssh listening on any fun ports. | 00:51 | |
| knome | slickymaster, could still run a shell, and have all backlog ready waiting for you | 00:51 |
| Unit193 | Ah, guess not. | 00:51 |
| pleia2 | Unit193: nope | 00:51 |
| knome | but... meh | 00:51 |
| slickymaster | so there's no way I can get a connection with anything besides using 8080 port | 00:51 |
| knome | now i'm going -> | 00:52 |
| pleia2 | night knomey | 00:52 |
| slickymaster | well, knome's got a point there | 00:52 |
| Unit193 | Not even 443 or 53? | 00:52 |
| Unit193 | knome: Good night. | 00:52 |
| pleia2 | Unit193: no :) | 00:52 |
| slickymaster | have a good one knome | 00:52 |
| pleia2 | makes me feel icky | 00:52 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: No, I meant slickymaster being able to access. If you don't have it nor want it that fine, just seems weird what he can't/can access. | 00:53 |
| pleia2 | I know, I meant running it on other ports makes me feel icky ;) | 00:53 |
| * pleia2 crosses arms | 00:54 | |
| pleia2 | it's not right | 00:54 |
| pleia2 | :) | 00:54 |
| slickymaster | I do see your point pleia2 | 00:54 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: I don't run mine on 22. :D | 00:54 |
| Unit193 | (Not to get around a firewall either.) | 00:54 |
| slickymaster | otoh my work hours are just a third of my day | 00:55 |
| Noskcaj | So my pc was stuck at a black screen when i got back from school. Maybe blueman does leak | 05:03 |
| Unit193 | TTY? | 05:04 |
| Unit193 | The plan is to seed the wallpapers? | 06:45 |
| knome | Unit193, yeeeees | 08:13 |
| Unit193 | Hrm. | 08:13 |
| elfy | knome: saw backlog - ta | 08:13 |
| knome | elfy, np | 08:14 |
| Unit193 | 23M Jan 29 15:25 /var/www/ext/xubuntu-community-wallpapers_14.04.0_all.deb so might want to downsize/compress/etc. | 08:14 |
| knome | yeah, i thought about it, but otoh... meh | 08:14 |
| knome | talk with ochosi | 08:14 |
| Unit193 | I have been in contact. | 08:14 |
| knome | and the answer is? ;) | 08:16 |
| Unit193 | Didn't ask that, only saw the seeding after he went to sleep. | 08:17 |
| Noskcaj | knome, From what i understand, xkb-plugin 0.7 just makes it work properly with srttings 4.11 | 08:17 |
| pmjdebruijn | 2560x1600 would be a nice target resolution :) | 08:17 |
| Noskcaj | pmjdebruijn, 4k or nothing | 08:18 |
| Noskcaj | ;) | 08:18 |
| Noskcaj | but yeah | 08:18 |
| Unit193 | pmjdebruijn: http://paste.openstack.org/show/t3EPJUQU1O7bf0ROllKl | 08:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | well | 08:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | so there are two wallpaper which is silly large | 08:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | are* | 08:18 |
| Unit193 | knome: Want to fix on the wiki or no? | 08:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | what are the largest resolution displays atm 3200xsomething | 08:19 |
| knome | Unit193, ochosi: i guess we could look into making gavin ashes submissions a bit smaller | 08:19 |
| knome | Unit193, wiki in what sense? | 08:19 |
| Unit193 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/CommunityWallpapers/Winners ? | 08:20 |
| knome | what's to fix? | 08:20 |
| Unit193 | Make smaller? :P | 08:20 |
| knome | ah bleh | 08:20 |
| knome | i'll confirm with ochosi that it's fine to drop the resolution | 08:21 |
| knome | but i guess it is | 08:21 |
| ochosi | oh yes | 08:21 |
| knome | everything to 2560x * | 08:21 |
| ochosi | well if pmjdebruijn is fine with dropping the size, i think we can do it ;) | 08:21 |
| knome | ? | 08:21 |
| ochosi | yeah | 08:22 |
| knome | thinking whether we should make an exception for traslasierra, but probably not | 08:22 |
| elfy | ochosi: call for settings testing went out today - light-locker is included in that | 08:22 |
| ochosi | thanks a bunch elfy | 08:22 |
| knome | ochosi, soooooo... should i do the resizing? | 08:23 |
| ochosi | knome: for multi-monitor you mean with spanning ? | 08:23 |
| knome | ochosi, i don't know what i mean. ;) | 08:23 |
| ochosi | well that would be one reason to keep it larger | 08:23 |
| ochosi | i don't know what the next-bigger standard resolution is though | 08:23 |
| knome | i guess we should just resize all to 2560x | 08:23 |
| knome | sources are always available | 08:24 |
| ochosi | btw, there is still a little banding in the picture | 08:24 |
| ochosi | guess i'll contact adrian again... | 08:24 |
| knome | awwh | 08:24 |
| ochosi | well it's a lot better already | 08:24 |
| knome | fix it for good or i'll drop it! :P | 08:24 |
| ochosi | pmjdebruijn: see what you did to me when we talked about banding? | 08:24 |
| pmjdebruijn | ochosi: :) | 08:25 |
| pmjdebruijn | btw the guy I mailed never replied | 08:25 |
| knome | ochosi, rather cut solitude from the top? | 08:27 |
| knome | ochosi, or bottom? | 08:27 |
| knome | ochosi, or the same amount from both | 08:27 |
| pmjdebruijn | I've tried solitude on my netbook | 08:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | cutting from teh bottom works best in my opinion | 08:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | 16:10 | 08:28 |
| knome | otoh the bottom part is what's on focus... | 08:28 |
| knome | ochosi, waiting for your opinion | 08:29 |
| knome | ochosi, btw, i need to go relatively soon, so... | 08:31 |
| knome | ochosi, also, bleh, traslasierra file info says: Software: Adobe Photoshop CC | 08:34 |
| Unit193 | Shhh, just remove that or else we'll have that one bug all over again! :P | 08:35 |
| knome | didn't ubuntu have that for their default wallpaper once? | 08:35 |
| Unit193 | lp 357218 | 08:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 357218 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu wallpaper called warty-final-ubuntu.png is made with Adobe Photoshop CS3 Macintosh" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357218 | 08:35 |
| knome | anyhow, i don't think it's a big thing to have something on the community wallpapers done with non-linux | 08:36 |
| knome | it's *community* wallpapers | 08:36 |
| Unit193 | Yep. | 08:36 |
| knome | where's that simon again | 08:37 |
| knome | elfy, when have you planned to call for exploratory testing? | 08:42 |
| knome | Unit193, did you have an idea for attributing translators? | 08:43 |
| Unit193 | Not really thought about it. | 08:44 |
| knome | can you? | 08:45 |
| Unit193 | https://unit193.net/xubuntu/en_US/ln-idp21533444.html ? | 08:48 |
| knome | that's as far as my thoughts go, but how do we technically do it? | 08:48 |
| knome | if we use the launchpad-translators string, it's going to be formatted ugly | 08:49 |
| knome | okay, i need to run | 08:50 |
| Unit193 | Run fast! | 08:50 |
| knome | i'm afraid i have to do that | 08:50 |
| knome | see you later! | 08:50 |
| Unit193 | Either way need to get slick in there. | 08:51 |
| ochosi | sorry, coffee and breakfast stopped me back there | 08:54 |
| Unit193 | Don't be sorry for that... | 08:55 |
| ochosi | yeah, well actually i would've become grumpy very soon otherwise | 08:55 |
| ochosi | :> | 08:55 |
| ochosi | knome: i'll check them out and give you my opinion in the course of the next hours | 08:56 |
| ochosi | btw, bubbles also has photoshop in the metadata | 08:56 |
| ochosi | i personally suggest we drop all the original metadata and replace it with author-name and "xubuntu community wallpaper contest" in the comment | 08:57 |
| ochosi | and the rest goes | 08:57 |
| Unit193 | And, is that wikipage going to be the source url? Upload a tarball to there or just send one to me if it's handy. :D | 08:58 |
| ochosi | yup, will do | 08:59 |
| ochosi | knome: ok, i offered gavin ash to resize the wallpapers himself. he has been quite responsive so far, so i expect an answer until tomorrow | 09:15 |
| slickymaster | morning all | 10:50 |
| bluesabre | morning folks | 10:50 |
| ochosi | morning bluesabre | 10:51 |
| bluesabre | how's it going? | 10:52 |
| slickymaster | morning bluesabre | 10:59 |
| bluesabre | hey slickymaster: what's up? | 10:59 |
| slickymaster | work, work... and some more work | 10:59 |
| slickymaster | thank god it's friday | 11:00 |
| ochosi | :> | 11:03 |
| bluesabre | no joke | 11:03 |
| bluetoooth | huh | 12:07 |
| bluetoooth | hello | 12:07 |
| bluetoooth | anybody in here | 12:07 |
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| slickymaster | knome: you around? | 12:08 |
| brainwash | ochosi: indicator-power cannot be configured via xfce4-power-manager (show icon always, if battery is present, never) | 12:12 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, ofc | 12:12 |
| brainwash | ok | 12:12 |
| brainwash | I cannot test it | 12:13 |
| ochosi | my patch only allows you to open the settings from the indicator | 12:13 |
| brainwash | oh | 12:13 |
| ochosi | what you suggest is much more complex, would mean accessing the whitelist of the indicator-plugin | 12:13 |
| brainwash | does it require gnome-settings-daemon? | 12:13 |
| ochosi | (maybe not much more complex, but still) | 12:13 |
| ochosi | no | 12:13 |
| brainwash | the mentioned setting can be changed via gnome-control-center or gconf-editor/gsettings | 12:14 |
| brainwash | xubuntu users would need to use the 2nd way | 12:14 |
| brainwash | people usually don't like if settings gets hidden, that's the reason I mentioned it | 12:17 |
| ochosi | well they can easily hide the battery-indicator with the indicator-plugin settings | 12:30 |
| ochosi | it's just not as finegrain | 12:30 |
| ochosi | and if they want that, they can use the trayicon for now | 12:30 |
| elfy | knome: I haven't | 13:22 |
| elfy | probably not going to now | 13:22 |
| elfy | knome: in fact I've postponed it | 13:40 |
| ochosi | knome: adrian, one of the wallpaper-winners, asked why we don't go for 2880x1800px as final resolution (that's the resolution of the macbook pro retina), but for 2560x1600 | 16:36 |
| ochosi | i personally don't have a strong opinion on this matter | 16:36 |
| ochosi | and i don | 16:36 |
| ochosi | t think that we have that many macbook pro retina users (well, also, they'll have more troubling toolkit problems than just a slightly fuzzy wallpaper) | 16:37 |
| ochosi | from a scaling pov, there's no problem, both resolutions have a ratio of 1.6 | 16:40 |
| ochosi | and i think we have all (or most) wallpapers in big-enough size | 16:41 |
| ochosi | so yeah, frankly i don't really care :> | 16:41 |
| ochosi | ali1234: i hope you don't mind that i just pinged tedg. thought maybe it helps if more than one person ping him about indicators | 16:43 |
| ali1234 | i don't mind at all | 16:43 |
| ochosi | doesn't seem like i'm getting any answers either though | 16:53 |
| ochosi | ali1234: wanna join the discussion? | 16:58 |
| ochosi | seems like a good time | 16:59 |
| elfy | lderan: get any further with that a/p list than the one I saw the other day? | 18:29 |
| lderan | elfy, not yet, will be working on it this evening & tomorrow :) | 18:30 |
| elfy | ok :) | 18:30 |
| elfy | personally I think that if we manage to get this stuff working for Unreal Unicorn we (or rather those who did it) have done well] | 18:31 |
| * lderan hopes that is the name of the 14.10 release | 18:32 | |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 18:33 |
| elfy | it won't be - except in my head | 18:33 |
| lderan | and now in mine | 18:33 |
| elfy | my work is done ... | 18:37 |
| elfy | hi Noskcaj - updates brought the -admins back now - cheers | 19:07 |
| Noskcaj | no problem. I screwed up pretty badly on that one | 19:07 |
| elfy | well - stuff happens - it's in what happens afterwards that makes the difference | 19:08 |
| elfy | no-one's perfect - apart from forestpiskie | 19:08 |
| elfy | it'd have been a bigger issue at the end of April - why we test and look at things :) | 19:09 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: regarding users-admin, do you thing we could replace the outdated group "admin" with the "sudo" group? | 19:22 |
| brainwash | see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/gnome-system-tools/trusty/view/head:/src/users/user-profiles.conf.in | 19:22 |
| Noskcaj | I can't see why not, but this would have to be an ubuntu wide change | 19:23 |
| brainwash | right, it's distribution specific | 19:23 |
| brainwash | currently looking for the bug report | 19:24 |
| brainwash | this one is fixed now I guess bug 1273305 | 19:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1273305 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Users and Groups missing recently?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1273305 | 19:24 |
| brainwash | ok, got it | 19:24 |
| brainwash | bug 1016932 | 19:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1016932 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Setting user as administrator doesn't give him sudoing rights" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016932 | 19:24 |
| brainwash | release note regarding "admin"/"sudo" group | 19:26 |
| brainwash | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Common_Infrastructure | 19:27 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: you gonna take care of these 2 reports? should I create a branch for the 2nd one? | 20:31 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, I've said before, you understand the problem, it's probably better you try to fix it | 20:32 |
| Noskcaj | I'm trying to update our version of pidgin | 20:32 |
| brainwash | ok, please mark the first report as fixed :) | 20:32 |
| brainwash | bug 1273305 | 20:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1273305 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Users and Groups missing recently?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1273305 | 20:33 |
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