[00:20] hey knome [00:21] hello pleia2 [00:21] we should take this and s/mint/xubuntu http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/poster/start-ubuntu-addis-announcement [00:22] pleia2, for the flyer, or in addition? [00:22] in addition [00:22] this is a short term thing, probably easy [00:22] just need to like two sentences and a screenshot and logo :) [00:22] i can do the same without ubuntu and create an all-xubuntu look for it [00:23] knome is an over-achiever [00:23] seems like a lot of work, and I do kind of like the ubuntu anchor (since people are starting to know what it is, or at least that it is) [00:23] or leave ubuntu for lesser role, without screenshots and stuff [00:23] ubuntu or startubuntu? [00:23] ubuntu [00:23] ok, we can leave that [00:24] i don't have problems creating a new page either though [00:24] wondering what the source format is [00:24] sla, so scribus [00:24] i can do that. [00:25] i guess my hidden thought is that once i've done one poster, we have a template for those [00:25] I just think this is nice to get done real quick and out the door [00:25] give me the weekend, and i'll be ready with it [00:25] I do still want the xubuntu one finished, but scale is only 3 weeks away now and I'm not sure I'll have time to print that [00:27] do you also want the "don't hesitate to write me..." [00:27] knome: delete that, maybe replace with some kind of generic help link [00:27] ok [00:28] i'll be in touch with you at latest on monday with a draft [00:28] so letter and A4 ? [00:28] yeah [00:28] oki [00:28] good golly, http://www.ubuntu.com/support still lists lp answers [00:28] bluesabre, me? :P [00:28] imma file ze bug [00:28] lol [00:29] pleia2, if you have time, please write the text you want [00:29] will do momentarily [00:29] no hurry, i can draft with the existing text [00:31] bluesabre, this is something i do for clients, usually in an even tighter schedule... [00:31] "can you do me a two-sided a4 broschure with our logos, the deadline is yesterday at noon" [00:32] and how can i say no to them? their money is so cute! [00:32] * Unit193 votes for the Xubuntu branded one. :P [00:33] lol [00:33] yeah, but startubuntu can help spread the good word :) [00:33] sure [00:35] we're not competing their flyer ;) [00:36] and i imagine there is people who wish to mostly advocate xubuntu [00:36] so who not do that, if there's nothing blocking that and it doesn't eat a lot of our time? [00:37] seriously, that looks like a 15-30minute task [00:38] and i don't need to even bend time to be able to send the pdf out yesterday! :P [00:43] I plan on having this uploaded to spreadubuntu.org and sharing it right back with the startubuntu folks [00:43] I've been involved in the thread developing it, the mint thing surprised me and no likey ;) [00:43] mint ships things that aren't legal to ship in the US, so promoting it is not really my thing [00:44] promoting mint is not really my thing either [00:44] now I need to stop looking at ubuntu.com, 2 bugs today is enough [00:45] even if i don't think it's bad OS, nor do i have problems with their us-legal stuff [00:45] pleia2, you ok to drop the startubuntu banner though? [00:46] I dunno, I was thinking we keep it [00:46] oh bah [00:46] :) [00:47] pleia2, btw... slickymaster probably needs a shell. [00:47] sure thing [00:47] but i'm off to sleep [00:47] have a good night :) [00:47] whatie?! [00:47] need to wake up relatively early tomorrow [00:47] slickymaster, ha! [00:47] nighty to you all as well :) [00:47] slickymaster: want a shell account? [00:47] pleia2, psst, he doesn't know he needs it! [00:48] the server only randomly reboots every month or so :) [00:48] haha [00:48] I don't even know what are you talking about :) [00:48] it's how forestpiskie stays on the ircs all the time! [00:48] and bluesabre [00:48] yup [00:48] hmm, a shell account in what? [00:49] slickymaster, in pleia2's server you silly one. [00:49] slickymaster, you could run an irc client that's on all the time, so we could poke you all day long. [00:49] * slickymaster has to read the logs before asking :P [00:49] I have a community server set up to give people shell accounts on and host various ubuntu projects (and things like files for our wallpaper contest) [00:49] thanks for your help with that, pleia2 [00:49] yes, thank you! [00:50] slickymaster, there's no logs about it :D [00:50] slickymaster, i just set you up! [00:50] I mean on the -dev channel [00:50] i'm lost but that's ok [00:51] off to bed :) [00:51] well, during work hours I'm behind a proxy [00:51] ah [00:51] so you'd need to get out on port 22 [00:51] * Unit193 wonders if pleia2 has ssh listening on any fun ports. [00:51] slickymaster, could still run a shell, and have all backlog ready waiting for you [00:51] Ah, guess not. [00:51] Unit193: nope [00:51] but... meh [00:51] so there's no way I can get a connection with anything besides using 8080 port [00:52] now i'm going -> [00:52] night knomey [00:52] well, knome's got a point there [00:52] Not even 443 or 53? [00:52] knome: Good night. [00:52] Unit193: no :) [00:52] have a good one knome [00:52] makes me feel icky [00:53] pleia2: No, I meant slickymaster being able to access. If you don't have it nor want it that fine, just seems weird what he can't/can access. [00:53] I know, I meant running it on other ports makes me feel icky ;) [00:54] * pleia2 crosses arms [00:54] it's not right [00:54] :) [00:54] I do see your point pleia2 [00:54] pleia2: I don't run mine on 22. :D [00:54] (Not to get around a firewall either.) [00:55] otoh my work hours are just a third of my day [05:03] So my pc was stuck at a black screen when i got back from school. Maybe blueman does leak [05:04] TTY? [06:45] The plan is to seed the wallpapers? [08:13] Unit193, yeeeees [08:13] Hrm. [08:13] knome: saw backlog - ta [08:14] elfy, np [08:14] 23M Jan 29 15:25 /var/www/ext/xubuntu-community-wallpapers_14.04.0_all.deb so might want to downsize/compress/etc. [08:14] yeah, i thought about it, but otoh... meh [08:14] talk with ochosi [08:14] I have been in contact. [08:16] and the answer is? ;) [08:17] Didn't ask that, only saw the seeding after he went to sleep. [08:17] knome, From what i understand, xkb-plugin 0.7 just makes it work properly with srttings 4.11 [08:17] 2560x1600 would be a nice target resolution :) [08:18] pmjdebruijn, 4k or nothing [08:18] ;) [08:18] but yeah [08:18] pmjdebruijn: http://paste.openstack.org/show/t3EPJUQU1O7bf0ROllKl [08:18] well [08:18] so there are two wallpaper which is silly large [08:18] are* [08:19] knome: Want to fix on the wiki or no? [08:19] what are the largest resolution displays atm 3200xsomething [08:19] Unit193, ochosi: i guess we could look into making gavin ashes submissions a bit smaller [08:19] Unit193, wiki in what sense? [08:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/CommunityWallpapers/Winners ? [08:20] what's to fix? [08:20] Make smaller? :P [08:20] ah bleh [08:21] i'll confirm with ochosi that it's fine to drop the resolution [08:21] but i guess it is [08:21] oh yes [08:21] everything to 2560x * [08:21] well if pmjdebruijn is fine with dropping the size, i think we can do it ;) [08:21] ? [08:22] yeah [08:22] thinking whether we should make an exception for traslasierra, but probably not [08:22] ochosi: call for settings testing went out today - light-locker is included in that [08:22] thanks a bunch elfy [08:23] ochosi, soooooo... should i do the resizing? [08:23] knome: for multi-monitor you mean with spanning ? [08:23] ochosi, i don't know what i mean. ;) [08:23] well that would be one reason to keep it larger [08:23] i don't know what the next-bigger standard resolution is though [08:23] i guess we should just resize all to 2560x [08:24] sources are always available [08:24] btw, there is still a little banding in the picture [08:24] guess i'll contact adrian again... [08:24] awwh [08:24] well it's a lot better already [08:24] fix it for good or i'll drop it! :P [08:24] pmjdebruijn: see what you did to me when we talked about banding? [08:25] ochosi: :) [08:25] btw the guy I mailed never replied [08:27] ochosi, rather cut solitude from the top? [08:27] ochosi, or bottom? [08:27] ochosi, or the same amount from both [08:28] I've tried solitude on my netbook [08:28] cutting from teh bottom works best in my opinion [08:28] 16:10 [08:28] otoh the bottom part is what's on focus... [08:29] ochosi, waiting for your opinion [08:31] ochosi, btw, i need to go relatively soon, so... [08:34] ochosi, also, bleh, traslasierra file info says: Software: Adobe Photoshop CC [08:35] Shhh, just remove that or else we'll have that one bug all over again! :P [08:35] didn't ubuntu have that for their default wallpaper once? [08:35] lp 357218 [08:35] Launchpad bug 357218 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu wallpaper called warty-final-ubuntu.png is made with Adobe Photoshop CS3 Macintosh" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357218 [08:36] anyhow, i don't think it's a big thing to have something on the community wallpapers done with non-linux [08:36] it's *community* wallpapers [08:36] Yep. [08:37] where's that simon again [08:42] elfy, when have you planned to call for exploratory testing? [08:43] Unit193, did you have an idea for attributing translators? [08:44] Not really thought about it. [08:45] can you? [08:48] https://unit193.net/xubuntu/en_US/ln-idp21533444.html ? [08:48] that's as far as my thoughts go, but how do we technically do it? [08:49] if we use the launchpad-translators string, it's going to be formatted ugly [08:50] okay, i need to run [08:50] Run fast! [08:50] i'm afraid i have to do that [08:50] see you later! [08:51] Either way need to get slick in there. [08:54] sorry, coffee and breakfast stopped me back there [08:55] Don't be sorry for that... [08:55] yeah, well actually i would've become grumpy very soon otherwise [08:55] :> [08:56] knome: i'll check them out and give you my opinion in the course of the next hours [08:56] btw, bubbles also has photoshop in the metadata [08:57] i personally suggest we drop all the original metadata and replace it with author-name and "xubuntu community wallpaper contest" in the comment [08:57] and the rest goes [08:58] And, is that wikipage going to be the source url? Upload a tarball to there or just send one to me if it's handy. :D [08:59] yup, will do [09:15] knome: ok, i offered gavin ash to resize the wallpapers himself. he has been quite responsive so far, so i expect an answer until tomorrow [10:50] morning all [10:50] morning folks [10:51] morning bluesabre [10:52] how's it going? [10:59] morning bluesabre [10:59] hey slickymaster: what's up? [10:59] work, work... and some more work [11:00] thank god it's friday [11:03] :> [11:03] no joke [12:07] huh [12:07] hello [12:07] anybody in here [12:07] ? [12:07] asfafa [12:07] asf [12:07] sasdi [12:07] asd [12:07] asd [12:07] as [12:07] ads [12:07] adsadasda [12:08] asdasdadadaadasa [12:08] sadadaasdad [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] aaa [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] a [12:08] C [12:08] K [12:08] M [12:08] Y [12:08] U [12:08] B [12:08] U [12:08] N [12:08] U [12:08] knome: you around? [12:12] ochosi: indicator-power cannot be configured via xfce4-power-manager (show icon always, if battery is present, never) [12:12] brainwash: yeah, ofc [12:12] ok [12:13] I cannot test it [12:13] my patch only allows you to open the settings from the indicator [12:13] oh [12:13] what you suggest is much more complex, would mean accessing the whitelist of the indicator-plugin [12:13] does it require gnome-settings-daemon? [12:13] (maybe not much more complex, but still) [12:13] no [12:14] the mentioned setting can be changed via gnome-control-center or gconf-editor/gsettings [12:14] xubuntu users would need to use the 2nd way [12:17] people usually don't like if settings gets hidden, that's the reason I mentioned it [12:30] well they can easily hide the battery-indicator with the indicator-plugin settings [12:30] it's just not as finegrain [12:30] and if they want that, they can use the trayicon for now [13:22] knome: I haven't [13:22] probably not going to now [13:40] knome: in fact I've postponed it [16:36] knome: adrian, one of the wallpaper-winners, asked why we don't go for 2880x1800px as final resolution (that's the resolution of the macbook pro retina), but for 2560x1600 [16:36] i personally don't have a strong opinion on this matter [16:36] and i don [16:37] t think that we have that many macbook pro retina users (well, also, they'll have more troubling toolkit problems than just a slightly fuzzy wallpaper) [16:40] from a scaling pov, there's no problem, both resolutions have a ratio of 1.6 [16:41] and i think we have all (or most) wallpapers in big-enough size [16:41] so yeah, frankly i don't really care :> [16:43] ali1234: i hope you don't mind that i just pinged tedg. thought maybe it helps if more than one person ping him about indicators [16:43] i don't mind at all [16:53] doesn't seem like i'm getting any answers either though [16:58] ali1234: wanna join the discussion? [16:59] seems like a good time [18:29] lderan: get any further with that a/p list than the one I saw the other day? [18:30] elfy, not yet, will be working on it this evening & tomorrow :) [18:30] ok :) [18:31] personally I think that if we manage to get this stuff working for Unreal Unicorn we (or rather those who did it) have done well] [18:32] * lderan hopes that is the name of the 14.10 release [18:33] ha ha ha [18:33] it won't be - except in my head [18:33] and now in mine [18:37] my work is done ... [19:07] hi Noskcaj - updates brought the -admins back now - cheers [19:07] no problem. I screwed up pretty badly on that one [19:08] well - stuff happens - it's in what happens afterwards that makes the difference [19:08] no-one's perfect - apart from forestpiskie [19:09] it'd have been a bigger issue at the end of April - why we test and look at things :) [19:22] Noskcaj: regarding users-admin, do you thing we could replace the outdated group "admin" with the "sudo" group? [19:22] see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/gnome-system-tools/trusty/view/head:/src/users/user-profiles.conf.in [19:23] I can't see why not, but this would have to be an ubuntu wide change [19:23] right, it's distribution specific [19:24] currently looking for the bug report [19:24] this one is fixed now I guess bug 1273305 [19:24] bug 1273305 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Users and Groups missing recently?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1273305 [19:24] ok, got it [19:24] bug 1016932 [19:24] bug 1016932 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Setting user as administrator doesn't give him sudoing rights" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016932 [19:26] release note regarding "admin"/"sudo" group [19:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Common_Infrastructure [20:31] Noskcaj: you gonna take care of these 2 reports? should I create a branch for the 2nd one? [20:32] brainwash, I've said before, you understand the problem, it's probably better you try to fix it [20:32] I'm trying to update our version of pidgin [20:32] ok, please mark the first report as fixed :) [20:33] bug 1273305 [20:33] bug 1273305 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Users and Groups missing recently?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1273305