| valorie | the local buzz is that Microsoft will announce their new CEO once the superbowl brouhaha has settled | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | next week | 00:00 |
| ahoneybun | I mean I and now in a hard place because I don't have a product key as it seems it is in the bios | 00:00 |
| ahoneybun | and a iso seems hard to get for just Win 8 | 00:00 |
| valorie | !efi | 00:00 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 00:00 |
| valorie | that thing? | 00:00 |
| ahoneybun | it has a BIOS emu | 00:00 |
| ahoneybun | but yea it is efi | 00:00 |
| valorie | evilness | 00:01 |
| ahoneybun | had to use the nomodeset option in the boot to get it to run the installer | 00:01 |
| ahoneybun | anyway brb | 00:01 |
| valorie | the gpu seems to be flaking out on this computer, and I dread trying to find a new one without fighting that | 00:01 |
| valorie | bleah | 00:01 |
| ahoneybun | about 12 seconds to boot | 00:03 |
| ahoneybun | to log screen | 00:03 |
| * mamarley 's computer (with UEFI and an SSD) boot about that fast. | 00:03 | |
| * ahoneybun wonders if he used "nomodeset" in the kubuntu installer that it would work | 00:04 | |
| ahoneybun | like in the ubuntu installer | 00:04 |
| mamarley | What kind of graphics card do you have? Does your UEFI support CSM (Compatibility Support Mode)? | 00:05 |
| ahoneybun | it has a option to act like BIOS | 00:05 |
| ahoneybun | I have 2 really one intel on the board and one nvidia | 00:05 |
| mamarley | Some graphics drivers don't like booting if CSM is off. | 00:06 |
| mamarley | The Nvidia blob does fine with it off on my Thinkpad T530. I do have Optimus disabled though. | 00:06 |
| ahoneybun | mamarley, GeForce GT 750M | 00:06 |
| ahoneybun | I did not install anything bumblebee or any non-free nvidia drivers | 00:07 |
| ahoneybun | which I had to do last time I installed Ubuntu 13.10 on this machine | 00:07 |
| ahoneybun | valorie, do you know the most amazing part of all this day so far? | 00:10 |
| valorie | what's that, ahoneybun? | 00:11 |
| ahoneybun | I plugged in a second monitor with hdmi and it just worked! | 00:12 |
| valorie | NICE | 00:12 |
| ahoneybun | that is epic | 00:12 |
| ahoneybun | not going to work in every case but still nice when it works | 00:12 |
| valorie | I still have to sleep and resume to get my display to work, which is extremely odd | 00:13 |
| ahoneybun | I am going to continue to bug test the new alpha 2 in a vm though | 00:13 |
| valorie | but I don't know if it's because of the flakey gpu or what | 00:13 |
| * jackyalcine thinks it's about time he tested alpha2 | 00:13 | |
| ahoneybun | it is prettystable for the most part have not really gone deep yet | 00:13 |
| ahoneybun | reported one bug in the installer but that was just wording | 00:14 |
| valorie | upgrade went fine to alpha one, but I haven't really used that laptop since upgrading it | 00:14 |
| ahoneybun | muon discover seems to be a bit better | 00:14 |
| jackyalcine | Now if opendesktop.org could look better | 00:15 |
| jackyalcine | and work better | 00:15 |
| jackyalcine | it could be the social hub for the F/OSS community | 00:15 |
| jackyalcine | but I digress | 00:15 |
| ahoneybun | hey lordievader | 00:17 |
| ahoneybun | valorie, how long do we have for the translations to finish? | 00:18 |
| valorie | jackyalcine: I prefer http://www.freedesktop.org/ | 00:18 |
| valorie | opendesktop isn't open, isn't free software, actually | 00:18 |
| ahoneybun | valorie, is it 1990? | 00:18 |
| valorie | 1990? | 00:18 |
| ahoneybun | that site | 00:19 |
| valorie | not sure when they were created, but it is the same company who makes kde-look, kde-apps, gnome-look, etc. | 00:19 |
| valorie | once Bodega gets going, we can start to leave that behind, I hope | 00:20 |
| ahoneybun | do most apps install to the / or do some install to /home ? | 00:20 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: I don't know what the schedule is; at some point we have to stop the translations and start creating the package, and moving the stuff to the website | 00:21 |
| ahoneybun | that is the point how do we determine that date? | 00:21 |
| valorie | I haven't a clue | 00:21 |
| valorie | perhaps write to KDE-devel and ask? | 00:21 |
| ahoneybun | perhaps | 00:21 |
| jackyalcine | I didn't know that Bodega's the replacement | 00:22 |
| valorie | not yet | 00:22 |
| valorie | but it is being developed | 00:23 |
| ahoneybun | kde-devel or kubuntu-dev? | 00:23 |
| valorie | oops, kubuntu-devel | 00:23 |
| valorie | kde-devel would be confused by that question, lol | 00:23 |
| ahoneybun | lol yep | 00:23 |
| jarkko_ | is it possible that window manager grabs keyboard that it cant be used on full screen program? | 00:24 |
| * ahoneybun wonders now if the deadline follows the package upload/update freeze | 00:26 | |
| valorie | rather closely | 00:28 |
| valorie | since we have to upload a package | 00:28 |
| ahoneybun | as we would need to get the kubuntu-doc package in before then | 00:28 |
| valorie | right | 00:28 |
| valorie | as i was saying, we need to start documenting this stuff | 00:28 |
| valorie | such as where to find deadlines, how to create and upload the package, arranging for translations, etc. | 00:29 |
| ahoneybun | I have the deadline for 14.04 somewhere | 00:30 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule | 00:30 |
| valorie | like our ninjas have documented their workflow, we should do as well | 00:31 |
| valorie | ovidiu-florin: http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/hello-world/ works well, but http://test.kubuntu.co.uk has a broken image | 00:32 |
| ahoneybun | yea but where to start | 00:32 |
| valorie | make a page on the wiki and I'll start | 00:33 |
| valorie | you add in what you know, and sgclark can add, etc. | 00:33 |
| ahoneybun | where is the one for the ninjas that I can model from> | 00:33 |
| valorie | make a card in the trello so people know where to find it | 00:33 |
| valorie | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas | 00:34 |
| ahoneybun | something like DocsPeople? | 00:34 |
| ahoneybun | as a name | 00:34 |
| valorie | nice nitty-gritty page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment | 00:35 |
| valorie | hmmm | 00:35 |
| valorie | people sounds more like a team listing | 00:35 |
| valorie | how about DocWork ? | 00:36 |
| ahoneybun | that would work | 00:37 |
| ahoneybun | wow the wiki seems to be a bit off lol | 00:39 |
| ahoneybun | got a huge python error when I try to log in | 00:39 |
| valorie | hmmm | 00:40 |
| valorie | https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs hasn't been used for awhile | 00:40 |
| ahoneybun | not since the 13.10 package | 00:40 |
| ahoneybun | still set for raring | 00:41 |
| valorie | ah, I was just looking at the wrong place; no recent blueprints | 00:41 |
| valorie | since we don't use the blueprints any more | 00:41 |
| valorie | trello is better | 00:41 |
| valorie | there is a Trusty package already | 00:41 |
| ahoneybun | I just saw that | 00:42 |
| valorie | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/kubuntu-docs | 00:42 |
| valorie | so that will need to be replaced | 00:42 |
| valorie | updated, whatever | 00:42 |
| ahoneybun | but it has the same date as the 13.10 one | 00:42 |
| valorie | right, probably identical content | 00:43 |
| ahoneybun | yeaa | 00:43 |
| valorie | that's always the starting point | 00:43 |
| * ahoneybun is installing bzr for later work on launchpad | 00:43 | |
| ahoneybun | why don't we have launchpad setup for bug reports? | 00:44 |
| valorie | somewhere I have a doc I made when working on the old docs | 00:45 |
| valorie | I'll email that to you | 00:45 |
| ahoneybun | ok cool | 00:45 |
| valorie | you can use what bits are useful and ditch the rest | 00:45 |
| * ahoneybun wants to take control of the kubuntu-docs page on lp | 00:45 | |
| valorie | I assume we don't use the bug tracker now because we stopped developing on launchpad | 00:46 |
| valorie | but if you take control of it, perhaps you can change that | 00:46 |
| valorie | I would talk to the ubuntu-docs folks about that | 00:46 |
| ahoneybun | I mean apachelogger put a bug on our docs though the ubuntu one because we dont have it | 00:46 |
| valorie | since we are part of that larger team | 00:46 |
| valorie | I'm sure they know how to flip the switch | 00:47 |
| valorie | almost pizza time here..... | 00:47 |
| ahoneybun | and that is filled with old bug reports and since we restared the docs we should have a clean plate | 00:47 |
| valorie | right | 00:47 |
| valorie | again, if you are in charge, you can probably mark the old bugs as outdated or something | 00:48 |
| ahoneybun | I would move the current ones that we have though over | 00:48 |
| ahoneybun | well the old bugs are on the ubuntu side of it | 00:48 |
| ahoneybun | not the kubuntu-docs page it self | 00:48 |
| ahoneybun | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs <- old things | 00:48 |
| ahoneybun | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs <- our own page | 00:48 |
| valorie | ok, off to pizza | 00:50 |
| valorie | later.... | 00:50 |
| ahoneybun | later | 00:50 |
| ScottK | 4.10.5 is accepted and building for saucy. | 03:00 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Accepted. | 03:14 |
| valorie | I'm looking over old email and see one from d_ed about Ktp that was never answered -- did someone take over the https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds PPA? | 07:29 |
| jackyalcine | that's a good question, I haven't noticed any updates from it | 07:53 |
| valorie | he requested someone to take over the PPA | 08:15 |
| valorie | I'll forward back to the list if no one answers here | 08:15 |
| cortexA9 | hello | 09:54 |
| cortexA9 | Riddell: | 09:54 |
| cortexA9 | :) | 09:54 |
| cortexA9 | there is a problem | 09:54 |
| cortexA9 | i have kubuntu trusty | 09:55 |
| cortexA9 | but on startup | 09:55 |
| cortexA9 | doesn't start correctly | 09:55 |
| cortexA9 | i must select an old kernel | 09:56 |
| cortexA9 | if i select | 09:58 |
| cortexA9 | kubuntu | 09:58 |
| cortexA9 | doesn't start correctly | 09:58 |
| alvin | Riddels talk is going to start in 5 minutes | 11:55 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Thanks! | 12:01 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:32 |
| jarkko | does anyone know if there is a know problem that window manager can grab your keyboard? | 12:33 |
| jarkko | in fullscreen program | 12:33 |
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| akki2222 | hi | 14:27 |
| akki2222 | i want to contribute in kde but when updating my xubuntu for kde development through debian repos it behaves abnormally | 14:28 |
| akki2222 | removed a lot of files including xubuntu desktop | 14:28 |
| akki2222 | which repos should i use for development? | 14:29 |
| ghostcube | you should stay with the X(buntu) repos? not going to debian imo | 14:33 |
| ghostcube | debian repos arent the same as ubuntu repos | 14:33 |
| akki2222 | i was reading the pdf n it said to update for kde build | 14:36 |
| ghostcube | hmmm who did muon? can i ask something? in synpatic you can choose remove completely.. so with program settings files. in muon you cant any reason for this? | 15:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: do you reffer to the footer? | 15:48 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 16:29 |
| ahoneybun | hey lordievader | 16:40 |
| lordievader | Hey ahoneybun, how are you doing? | 16:41 |
| ahoneybun | good netflix is being silly right now but good | 16:42 |
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| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: ping | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: when's the KDE Dinner? | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer_ | nvm | 17:03 |
| valorie | ovidiu-florin: the header, actually | 21:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: how come? | 21:45 |
| valorie | good question | 21:46 |
| valorie | I didn't look at the html | 21:46 |
| valorie | sec | 21:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: I mean I don't understand what you see it's wrong? | 21:52 |
| valorie | perhaps I can take a screenshot | 21:52 |
| valorie | hmmm, today I see the headers | 21:53 |
| valorie | header | 21:53 |
| valorie | perhaps it was just being stubborn yesterday | 21:53 |
| valorie | today it appears everything is not only working, but it's lovely as well | 21:54 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1267977] Extreme jerkiness with kwin compositing on Nvidia binary driver after upgrading to 4.11.5. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1267977 (by Michael Marley) | 22:15 |
| soee | ok just sent £4,00 GBP donation :) who first than can buy beer :) | 22:42 |
| valorie | heh | 22:44 |
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