[00:16] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, If I want to install 14.04, is the Alpha 2 the latest ISO I can get ?
[00:19] <genii> ANN-TechCoder: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:20] <ANN-TechCoder> With the update I will be on the latest Alpha - right ?
[00:30] <dakotawulfy> hey has onennotice that the zenity boxes don't come up right??
[00:31] <dakotawulfy> the ones with the radio buttons scrollable area  or had problems with it ??
[00:34] <UserError> i don't see the mini.iso under http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:34] <UserError> hrm
[00:40] <Pici> UserError: see http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ or http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[00:40] <UserError> awesome thank you
[06:25] <damascene> and one here?
[06:25] <damascene> *any
[12:20] <uaa> anغ one here?
[12:20] <uaa> any one here?
[12:20] <uaa> Hi, I'm on ubuntu 14.04 when I open security & privacy it open system settings window
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:53] <utack> so how does the ubuntu 14.04 alpha version work when final is released. let's say it uses linux 3.14 and the final includes 3.13. does it downgrade that package?
[14:03] <Ampelbein> utack: That is a situation that is unlikely to happen.
[14:03] <utack> Ampelbein, do they not add linux 3.14 now? do they stick with 3.13 in the daily builds?
[14:05] <Ampelbein> utack: 3.14 isn't released yet.
[14:05] <utack> yeah. but iirc 3.13 release candidates were also used?
[14:06] <utack> so if rc1 is released, wouldn't it be linxu 3.14 then?
[14:06] <Ampelbein> I don't know if there are plans to release with 3.14, in any case using 3.14 now and later releasing 3.13 will not happen.
[14:06] <Ampelbein> *releasing with
[14:06] <utack> ok
[14:09] <benishor> Hi guys. Quick question: I'm on 13.10 and somehow managed to partially dist-upgrade. What I have now is a problem related to icu-devtools not being able to install because of existing icu-tools package
[14:09] <benishor> any ideas on how to fix this, please?
[16:28] <penguin42> benishor: I think your best chance is to complete the dist-upgrade
[16:31] <benishor> penguin42: I so wish I would
[16:31] <benishor> but how?
[16:33] <penguin42> try taking out ice-devtools
[16:33] <penguin42> icu
[16:34] <benishor> that's what I want to do but I don't know how
[16:34] <benishor> sudo apt-get remove icu-devtools
[16:34] <benishor> [sudo] password for benny:
[16:34] <benishor> Reading package lists... Done
[16:34] <benishor> Building dependency tree
[16:34] <benishor> Reading state information... Done
[16:34] <benishor> Package 'icu-devtools' is not installed, so not removed
[16:35] <penguin42> ok, so what exactly is the error you get with a distupgrade that makes you think it's icu-devtools related?
[16:35] <benishor> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:35] <benishor> Reading package lists... Done
[16:35] <benishor> Building dependency tree
[16:35] <benishor> Reading state information... Done
[16:35] <benishor> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[16:36] <benishor> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:36] <benishor>  libicu-dev : Depends: icu-devtools (>= 4.8.1.1-13+nmu1~saucy1) but it is not installed
[16:36] <benishor> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[16:36] <benishor> sorry for the paste
[16:36] <benishor> and when I run it with -f, it attempts to install icu-devtools which fails to install because it collides with icu-tools
[16:36] <penguin42> yeh best to use a pastebin - hmm - try a dpkg --purge icu-devtools
[16:36] <benishor> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/icu-devtools_4.8.1.1-13+nmu1~saucy1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[16:37] <benishor>  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/genrb', which is also in package icu-tools 4.8.1.1-12ubuntu2
[16:37] <benishor> icu-devtools is not installed yet, so purging it has no effect
[16:39] <penguin42> makes me wonder if icu-devtools is a dependency of something so it's trying to install it for some reason
[16:39] <penguin42> have you got libicu-dev installed ?
[16:40] <benishor> yup
[16:40] <penguin42> try uninstalling that
[16:40] <benishor> should I uninstall it?
[16:41] <penguin42> yeh, apt-cache rdepends says it's a reverse-depend for icu-devtools
[16:41] <benishor> a lot of stuff depends on libicu-dev though
[16:41] <benishor> boost and other things
[16:41] <penguin42> so I think it's saying it's got to install the broken icu-devtools because it has the libicu-dev installed
[16:42] <penguin42> benishor: It should only be -dev stuff - so it shouldn't break anything except building, and you can always try adding stuff back once you get things sane
[16:42] <benishor> the problem from what I gather is that icu-tools has been renamed to icu-devtools
[16:42] <benishor> tried to uninstall libicu-dev, and what I get is:
[16:42] <penguin42> ah and perhaps libicu-dev hasn't caught up yet
[16:42] <benishor> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:42] <benishor>  libboost-regex1.53-dev : Depends: libicu-dev but it is not going to be installed
[16:42] <benishor>  libxerces-c-dev : Depends: libicu-dev but it is not going to be installed
[16:42] <benishor> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[16:43] <penguin42> yeh, uninstall them
[16:43] <benishor> more unmet dependencies when removing boost-regex-dev
[16:43] <benishor> is there a way to automatically remove unmet dependencies too?
[16:45]  * penguin42 had thought apt-get was smart enough for that
[16:46]  * benishor too
[16:46] <benishor> although it might be a classic PEBKAC issue
[23:04] <Infandum> Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 alpha 2, for some reason, is super smooth and has no graphical glitches, whereas in ubuntu gnome 13.10 and fedora and the like all had graphical glitches in the application bar and they were very laggy and chugged along. Is this do to the mesa update to version 10 or the gnome update to version 3.10.3?
[23:04] <bekks> Infandum: It maybe related to any entry in the changelog.
[23:06] <Infandum> bekks: Where do I find that?