| * infinity kisses ti-omap4 goodbye from the archive. | 11:21 | |
| stgraber | yay! | 11:22 |
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| ^charlie | is there a method for popping a custom prompt during ubuntu installation, but before first boot? i want to collect a string and store it to a file for use during post-install firstboot. | 20:03 |
| ^charlie | i am currently using an unattended setup seed for 12.04LTS, plan to use it for 14.04LTS as well | 20:04 |
| ^charlie | anyone here fielding questions? | 21:06 |
| antarus | this channel is pretty quiet, even during the week ;) | 21:08 |
| antarus | infinity, cjwatson, and xnox are about the only regulars | 21:09 |
| * antarus is only in here to pester colin with annoying questions | 21:09 | |
| xnox | antarus: i am about, but coding. What's up? | 21:10 |
| ^charlie | i'd like to collect a string from the user either from d-i or ubiquity during installation, and store it to a file on the system for consumption during first boot when i take over with more scripts | 21:11 |
| ^charlie | from what i see online, a custom udeb might be able to ask questions but i'm not finding enough info about it to understand. | 21:11 |
| ^charlie | online general searches about "install prompt user" et al get me a lot of hits regarding apt-get and the like | 21:12 |
| antarus | you can definitely use a udeb to add a step to the install process, that prompts the user if the answer is not preseeded | 21:12 |
| antarus | I can't say I could point you at some steps to do it though | 21:13 |
| antarus | it involves debconf, debconf templates, building udeb, and the right control fields to add your step to the right place in the install | 21:13 |
| ^charlie | dang, that was my next q :_ | 21:13 |
| antarus | and at least for me, its mostly 'find another package that does this, copy liberally' | 21:13 |
| antarus | s/package/udeb/ | 21:13 |
| antarus | ;) | 21:13 |
| antarus | fwiw, this is for d-i | 21:14 |
| ^charlie | ok i'll take a look around, thanks. | 21:14 |
| antarus | ubiquity is probably way easier | 21:14 |
| antarus | or asking them in oem-config | 21:14 |
| antarus | also way easier | 21:14 |
| ^charlie | i haven't seen oem-config yet. | 21:14 |
| ^charlie | let me look around for that. | 21:14 |
| xnox | ^charlie: all of d-i is just shell scripts that invoke debconf to ask user questions, so all / any installer screens are examples of what you want. | 21:14 |
| antarus | oem-config is (IIRC) the UI that the user gets after the install | 21:14 |
| antarus | to let them pick their TZ, language, and so forth | 21:14 |
| ^charlie | does that oem-install occur before the reboot | 21:15 |
| antarus | no | 21:15 |
| antarus | well, possibly | 21:15 |
| antarus | it doesn't in our setup ;p | 21:15 |
| ^charlie | how do i get ubiquity to askquestions? is it the same udeb type stuff? | 21:16 |
| antarus | you have to write some...python..or glade..or something | 21:17 |
| antarus | I don't have the code in front of me, and my code was written in 2008, so I'd hope there is something better now ;p | 21:17 |
| ^charlie | python is just fine. is there some example script i can look at? | 21:17 |
| antarus | I'd just go grab the ubiquity source | 21:17 |
| ^charlie | ok | 21:17 |
| antarus | or oem-config? | 21:17 |
| antarus | there are screens that Ubuntu is using | 21:18 |
| xnox | ^charlie: pure oem-config in d-i has (typically) three parts - ask questions during install / execute some things, allow reboot into final system and do as you like (optional), pop-up instance/end-user config when shipped. | 21:18 |
| antarus | also maybe search the wiki | 21:18 |
| ^charlie | yeah i'll check oem-config too. it all depends if it's executing before the first boot. | 21:18 |
| xnox | antarus: ubiquity wraps d-i with python modules, so one can do debconf based questions, or just pure python questions/answers + exec things in the target/first boot. | 21:18 |
| antarus | for our process, we have basically given up on having things ready 'pre first boot' | 21:18 |
| ^charlie | agree | 21:18 |
| xnox | antarus: e.g. see ubuntuone plugin that asks non-d-i questions and does things to /target | 21:19 |
| ^charlie | the vast majority of what i do occurs after first boot | 21:19 |
| antarus | we try to get the machine as close as we can, and then reboot into a 'provisioning environment' | 21:19 |
| antarus | (which is essentially ubiquity) | 21:19 |
| antarus | and then we prep the machine | 21:19 |
| ^charlie | i am just trying to collect some credentials and have them ready for some git/svn activities during first boot | 21:19 |
| ^charlie | first boot being what happens after ubiquity is all done and ejects the disc | 21:20 |
| ^charlie | currently those credentials are in a script in the install media.... and i dislike the idea of having to do that. | 21:20 |
| ^charlie | i'd rather make the user cough them up. | 21:21 |
| antarus | yeah putting creds in the install media is not so nice | 21:21 |
| antarus | we've been trying put stuff in the TPM | 21:21 |
| antarus | or wrapped with the TPM | 21:22 |
| antarus | but shockingly, the TPM does not function very well | 21:22 |
| ^charlie | heh | 21:22 |
| ^charlie | i'm not fond of tpm from the user side either. | 21:22 |
| antarus | we end up fighting a lot with vendors who either ship a TPM that just doesn't work, or doesn't work in linux, or... | 21:22 |
| antarus | and canonical doesn't care about the TPM (not that I blame them...since no one uses it ;p) | 21:23 |
| antarus | so even when we try to buy canonical certified hardware | 21:23 |
| antarus | it still may not work ;p | 21:23 |
| antarus | hardware is 'fun' | 21:23 |
| antarus | virtual machines for everyone! | 21:23 |
| ^charlie | TPM won't be so useful for me, i'm providing a dev/qa environment to teammates who use VMs and dumpy unwanted hardware | 21:23 |
| antarus | yeah | 21:24 |
| antarus | I'm more talking about credentials in general | 21:24 |
| ^charlie | ah okay | 21:24 |
| ^charlie | so i'll take a look at oem-config and also the ubiquity sources and see what i can come up with. | 21:25 |
| ^charlie | if anyone knows of a decent udeb tutorial that would be awesome. or source of an existing udeb that asks for a string and stores it. | 21:25 |
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