[00:00] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, I presume you mean on the server.
[00:00] <TJ-> sudormrf: That sounds like, on the remote system, the client's entry in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys as a command prefix, such as "sleep XXXX ..."
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: yup
[00:00] <sudormrf> hmm.  let me look.
[00:00] <TJ-> sudormrf: s/as a/has a/
[00:01] <sudormrf> TJ-, the only thing I see in ~/.ssh is known_hosts.
[00:01] <sudormrf> let me have a look at that file
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: have you modified ANY of the .files in your $HOME ?
[00:02] <Anuska> HI, if i add this manual:
[00:02] <Anuska> sudo mount -t cifs //myserver_ip_address/myshare ~/mnt -o username=samb_user,noexec
[00:02] <Anuska> how i add this to be automated if i reboot the linux?
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: ~?.ssh/authorized_keys is on ther server
[00:02] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, I have not.
[00:02] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: sudormrf: For example, I use it for remote-relays with "command="sleep 604800" ssh-rsa AAAAB...." to prevent the ssh proxy from disconnecting through inactivity
[00:03] <Neytiri> hi i am havinga issue with my system unexpectidly rebooting
[00:03] <sudormrf> TJ-, the only file I see is "known_hosts" and it looks to be encrypted
[00:03] <Neytiri> how do i figurt out why
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: pastebin the contents of /var/log/syslog
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: are you using password auth or key auth?
[00:04] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, password.
[00:04] <TJ-> sudormrf: That is on the server? I'm referring to the user's $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys *on the server*
[00:04] <sudormrf> TJ-, correct.  let me check again
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: ahh, thats why there's no authorized_keys then
[00:04] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, oh.  haha
[00:05] <TJ-> sudormrf: aha!. OK, have you connected using "ssh -vvvv .... " to get maxium debug output? And have you checked the server's "/var/log/auth.log" ?
[00:05] <Neytiri> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/33iDvskP
[00:05] <sudormrf> TJ-, let me check the /var/log/auth.log
[00:06] <sudormrf> TJ-, I have been using -vT when connecting to see what is happening, but that only shows up until the point the authentication takes place. after that I see the "welcome to ubuntu...." message and the message about updates and that is it.  the prompt doesn't show up.
[00:06] <TJ-> sudormrf: That is the server's MOTD, generated by pam-motd
[00:07] <TJ-> sudormrf: So you're getting into PAM, but I wonder if its getting out?
[00:08] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: last time I installed skype, it installed some bloatcrap on firefox. I didn't order that. Who knows what else it does. I just want to keep it out of the rest of the system (it has no business there).
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: just do an "advanced" setup or whatever they call it these days and don't install the addons
[00:09] <sudormrf> TJ-, that's called PAM?  good to know :).  Yeah, it looks like I am getting in to PAM but it is getting stuck.
[00:09] <TJ-> sudormrf: Pluggable Authentication Modules
[00:09] <sudormrf> TJ-, good to know! :).  So yeah, is there a PAM log? or something along those lines?
[00:09] <TJ-> sudormrf: So, focus on increasing the verbosity of server-side logging into auth.log
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: to be sure: cat /etc/update-motd.d/* | pastebinit
[00:10] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, ok
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: is the current session just after a crash?
[00:11] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852359/
[00:11] <Neytiri> ?
[00:11] <sudormrf> TJ-, how can I increase the verbosity of the logging in auth.log?
[00:11] <Neytiri> i grabed the full syslog file after i got back in
[00:12] <TJ-> sudormrf: To see what modules are being run, in what order, look at "/etc/pam.d/login"
[00:12] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, anyone using 14.04 Daly Bilds already ?
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | ANN-TechCoder
[00:13] <ANN-TechCoder> I know. All I am asking if anyone has it installed and using Daly Builds ?
[00:13] <Anuska> ANYONE? if i want to add to mount automated samba file from other ubuntu in my ubuntu...
[00:13] <Anuska> what i need to config, becouse if i add //ip .... in fstab not work
[00:13] <sudormrf> TJ-, checking
[00:13] <jtane> hello, i am trying to use ip l2tp on ubuntu 13.10, but it always returns "error talking to the kernel"
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: i mean your current run of the system started at: Jan 31 18:55:33    is this just after a crash? or was this after a normal shutdown?
[00:14] <Neytiri> jsut after a crash
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> ANN-TechCoder: any chat or anything related to trusty is in #ubuntu+1
[00:15] <Neytiri> wait that might be from a reboot
[00:15] <Neytiri> looking at the time difference
[00:16] <jtane> anyone had any luck using l2tp on saucy?
[00:16] <sudormrf> Anuska, you should be able to use an IP address in fstab
[00:16] <Anuska> yes
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: can you pastebin an earlier syslog then please. they should be stored as /var/log/syslog.1, /var/log/syslog.2.gz, etc...
[00:16] <Anuska> but what is the line
[00:17] <Anuska> here: //myserver_ip_address/myshare  /media/samba_share  cifs  noauto,credentials=/etc/samba/user,noexec  0 0
[00:17] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: I just dont' trust them.
[00:17] <Anuska> but... not have /etc/samba/user in this computer becouse is other computer with ubuntu
[00:17] <sudormrf> Anuska, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026501
[00:17] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: if you can run it with a restricted user anyway, it shouldn't be able to affect your system, should it? (assuming it's not trying to use any exploits to do that)
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: lol. there's no real way of sandboxing it, so unfortunately you will have to trust them
[00:17] <Anuska> /netstore/disk1 /media/disk1 smbfs dmask=777,username=username,password=password 0 0
[00:17] <Anuska> thanks
[00:18] <sudormrf> Anuska, you need to replace netstore with your disk info
[00:18] <Anuska> yes but! if someone type: cat /etc/fsdab
[00:18] <Anuska> see the password is in clear text
[00:18] <sudormrf> Anuska, I am going to show you how to prevent that.  sec.
[00:18] <mxplea> hello, I am wondering if somebody can help me install Ubuntu to a partition on a Windows system.  I just made a 30 gig partition and I don't really have access to a USB stick or CD/DVD. Is there any way I can install Ubuntu to this partitioned drive from within Windows?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: no, it should not be able to effect the main system. but could potentially write anything in userspace
[00:18] <sudormrf> Anuska, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1806455
[00:19] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: :(
[00:19] <koalinux> bye
[00:19] <Anuska> let me see sudormrf
[00:20] <Neytiri> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852389/
[00:20] <sudormrf> TJ-, I had a look at that file, but it doesn't look out of the ordinary to me.
[00:22] <TJ-> sudormrf: I forgot, for ssh, it's "/etc/pam.d/sshd" ... but that is for your information, to get an idea of which modules are running in which order. If you know MOTD is running to completion then you can focus on the modules listed after it, to identify the fault
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: ok. lots of apps crashing before the restart
[00:22] <hochmeister> what are some projects that use upstart. I'm trying to package a project that uses it and I'd like to take a look at some examples.
[00:22] <hochmeister> oops, that was supposed to be a question...
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: seems to be an issue with the swap maybe
[00:23] <sudormrf> TJ-, checking. :).
[00:24] <Neytiri> how can i fix that?
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: ok. can you pastebin the output of: free -m
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> hochmeister: plenty of examples in /etc/init
[00:24] <Neytiri> http://pastebin.com/5wrT0Tcv
[00:24] <TJ-> sudormrf: To debug, you can add the option "debug" to the commands, e.g.  "session    optional     pam_motd.so debug # [1]"  and so on for other modules
[00:24] <Anuska> yay
[00:25] <Anuska> but ubuntu not have root
[00:25] <Anuska> password for root
[00:25] <hochmeister> hitsujiTMO, shamefully I remembered this immediately after asking
[00:25] <sudormrf> Anuska, not sure what you mean?
[00:25] <sudormrf> TJ-, is there a log that this stuff would be reflected in?
[00:27] <Anuska> i need to set a password to root?
[00:27] <Anuska> or no?
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: are you using a lot of memory when the crah happens?
[00:27] <TJ-> !root | Anuska
[00:27] <hochmeister> I'm having a small problem with debuild. it's generating rc-style init scripts along with pre&post install and a prerm script. It is not creating a postrm script, which generates a lintian error, and looks like it is appending the postrm routine to the postinst script.
[00:27] <Anuska> yes
[00:27] <TJ-> sudormrf: "/var/log/auth.log"
[00:27] <nobitanobi> How can I run PHP files (a whole Project that I have in /home/novita/MyProject) that are not in /var/www ?
[00:28] <Neytiri> yes, i am using it to host minecraft servers
[00:28] <hochmeister> nobitanobi, symlink to your document root, or use the userdir module.
[00:28] <sudormrf> TJ-, oh.  the PAM logs to that log too.  ic :).
[00:28] <Anuska> mount error(13): Permission denied
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> nobitanobi: symlink /home/novita/MyProject to /var/www/MyProject          or create a virtual host
[00:28] <Anuska> sudo mount -a
[00:29] <Anuska> !?
[00:29] <TJ-> sudormrf: P-Authentication-M ---> "auth".log ... there's a clue in the name :)
[00:29] <nobitanobi> hitsujiTMO, ok.
[00:29] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: what if i chroot and then run skype as a restricted binary?
[00:29] <nobitanobi> hitsujiTMO, how can I find out about virtual hosts in order to do this?
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: you can still escape a chroot
[00:29] <nobitanobi> I fail to see how to Google that
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: i think you're over thinking the situation. if you're really feel that bad about it, run it in a virtual machine
[00:30] <hochmeister> nobitanobi, you really don't have to setup a vhost. you can also use userdir: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_userdir.html
[00:30] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: but only if you do that explicitly, right? like "escape chroot" (why would skype do that)?
[00:30] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: I'm paranoid :3.
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> nobitanobi: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[00:31] <nobitanobi> ok guys. I will take a look at mod_userdir
[00:31] <nobitanobi> thanks hitsujiTMO
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: why would skype do anything to "infect" your system? :P
[00:32] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: I don't think it would. But my experience is that installations do more than just dropping an executable in a directory.
[00:32] <Anuska> sudormrf, TJ-  i need to add some password in .cifscredentials  ? not work with password from linux?
[00:33] <Anuska> if is the same user
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: first thing i'd do is run memtest
[00:33] <Anuska> & pass
[00:33] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: btw, what did you mean by exiting chroot?
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: yes, but there's an advanced setup for skype that allows you to stop that
[00:33] <Neytiri> its a vmware virtual machine, does that still apply?
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: you can escape a chroot, via /dev or other means
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: do you actually have 24GB of ram for the VM?
[00:34] <granjero> hi, i´m installing GNUHealth on Ubuntu server 12.04 and in some point at the tutorial says to type this command. "source $HOME/.gnuhealthrc" how do I get out of the blue state that command make me enter in.
[00:34] <granjero> thanks in advancew
[00:35] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: I don't trust those 'advanced' setups anymore xD. I did that with iTunes, but my laptop was all over my university LAN. "*bad word*s computer" showed up on pretty much every mac and iPhone connected to that network.
[00:35] <granjero> excuse my english.
[00:35] <Anuska> Is anyone here how use VNC to connect UBUNTU to Debian?
[00:35] <granjero> installing over ubuntu server i386 12.04
[00:35] <simonhfc> sera
[00:36] <Neytiri> the server has 32
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: and are you over committing memory? if not i'd run memtest from a live cd on the host
[00:36] <simonhfc> buona sera
[00:36] <Neytiri> i only have 24 assigned to the vm tho
[00:36] <sudormrf> Anuska, when you chown the file you should be OK
[00:36] <treehouse> Anuska: simple. You just install a VNC server on the Debian computer, and connect via a VNC client from the ubuntu computer. No hazzle.
[00:36] <Neytiri> i'll give it a try
[00:36] <Anuska> yes treehouse
[00:36] <Anuska> i install vns erv
[00:36] <sudormrf> TJ-, this is such a strange problem LOL.  I am looking at these things thinking "why aren't you workinG?!" curious to see what happens when I get home.
[00:37] <Anuska> vnc11serve some of that is running on debian
[00:37] <Anuska> and in ubuntu i have ssl/ssh bnc viewer
[00:37] <simonhfc> chi mi può aiutare?
[00:37] <Anuska> simonhfc,  join #ubuntu-it
[00:37] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: but the 'mechanisms' to escape chroot, aren't used easily by accident I assume? (programs won't escape it unless it's doing so pretty much deliberately)?
[00:37] <sgen> Hi all, Im trying to copysome files to my note 3. Ive connnected the  device but IM not sure where its mounted. Any ideas?
[00:38] <Anuska> x11vncserver = running on debian
[00:38] <Anuska> how i connect on this from ubuntu?
[00:38] <treehouse> Anuska: you need a VNC client (specifically) to make it work, usually. try that
[00:39] <Anuska> ssl/ssh vnc viewer ?
[00:39] <Anuska> this?
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: no they aren't
[00:39] <Ben64> Anuska: use a vnc client to connect to a vnc server, it doesn't matter if the server is debian, ubuntu, windows, or anything...
[00:39] <Anuska> but what is the name? becouse not find
[00:39] <Ben64> !find vnc
[00:39] <Anuska> I ask is: ssl/ssh bnc viewer the name?
[00:39] <Anuska> vnc*
[00:40] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Neytiri "evomc kernel: [    0.000000] Memory: 24673388k/26214400k available "
[00:40] <Anuska> x11vnc ?
[00:40] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients
[00:40] <Ben64> pick one
[00:41] <Anuska> thanks
[00:41] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: :D problem solved then, for sane apps that you just want to make sure they stay out of the rest of the system :p? chroot, and they will find no files that I have no interest of them reading, and they'll write stuff to a trashcan folder?
[00:42] <skinux> What's the command to see how much disk space is left? Note, it is actually a partition mounted to /home at boot.
[00:42] <treehouse> skinux: df
[00:42] <treehouse> = disk free
[00:43] <sudormrf> TJ-, and now it is working.  LOL this is driving me nuts
[00:43] <skinux> Will it give free space of -only- /home partition?
[00:43] <Ben64> df gives for all mounted partitions
[00:43] <rww> skinux: df /home
[00:43] <skinux> Cool. Thanks.
[00:43] <Josh`> im pretty sure ubuntu 13.10 just installed itself over the windows partition rather than replacing 12.04, i dont suppose i can somehow recover what just happened? :(
[00:44] <Ben64> Josh`: pastebin "sudo parted -l"
[00:44] <callmeDarwin> df  -h gives it in readable form not just bytes
[00:44] <TJ-> sudormrf: Don't complain!
[00:44] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: ahhh, ignore me, that log-file was from the Guest, I got caught out by the "Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware" entry
[00:45] <Josh`> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/91PT7ESe
[00:45] <sudormrf> TJ-, not complaining.  laughing about it , mate :).
[00:46] <Ben64> Josh`: looks like you have a windows recovery partition, but besides that, no windows install
[00:46] <Josh`> it would appear so :( i've reinstalled ubuntu a few times today, and that's the first time that action back-fired
[00:48] <Anuska> xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[00:48] <Anuska> Unable to connect to VNC server
[00:48] <Anuska> :((
[00:49] <Anuska> if i use the client from windows ! work
[00:49] <Ben64> look at the error, it tells you what you need to know. "connection refused" so you're using the wrong ip or port
[00:49] <Anuska> hmm
[00:50] <Anuska> i use and Vinagre ... and not work
[00:50] <Anuska> if i connect from windows?
[00:50] <Anuska> all is oki
[00:50] <sk1special> anyone know why the scroll bar is gone on xchat?
[00:50] <sudormrf> Anuska, what are you trying to do?
[00:51] <Anuska> to connect using VNC to Debian with X11VNCSERVER
[00:51] <Ben64> Anuska: use nmap to check ip and port if its open
[00:51] <Anuska> Ben64, if i connect from windows?
[00:51] <sk1special> or how to do the pasword generator thing i could have done before but didnt (in terminal)
[00:51] <Ben64> no...
[00:51] <Anuska> in this computer if i switch the OS work
[00:52] <Ben64> we don't care if it works in windows, ignore that and use nmap to check
[00:52] <Ben64> the problem is you're not using the right ip or port
[00:52] <Anuska> in ubuntu or where is the vnc serve?
[00:52] <Ben64> in ubuntu
[00:53] <Anuska> how i type?
[00:53] <Anuska> nmap..
[00:53] <sudormrf> Anuska, typically VNC is on port 5900 or 5901.  when you connect use xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:5901 and see if that works
[00:53] <sudormrf> Anuska, alternatively, hostname:5901
[00:54] <Anuska> Invalid host expression: 192.168.10.102:5900 -- colons only allowed in IPv6 addresses, and then you need the -6 switch
[00:54] <Anuska> hmm
[00:54] <compdoc> my windows client uses hostname:1
[00:54] <Ben64> nmap 192.168.10.102 -p 5900
[00:56] <Anuska> sudormrf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852533/
[00:56] <Ben64> then the server isn't running on that ip/port
[00:56] <Anuska> hmm
[00:56] <Anuska> is imposible
[00:57] <Ben64> pastebin "nmap 192.168.1.102 -p 5900-5910"
[00:58] <mstiehm> I have a head scratcher of a bind/ufw problem.. Anyone want to take a listen to the issue?
[00:58] <Anuska> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN
[00:58] <Anuska> Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 3.04 seconds
[00:58] <Ben64> pastebin "nmap 192.168.1.102 -p 5900-5910 -P0"
[00:58] <Anuska> aa
[00:58] <Anuska> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852548/
[00:59] <Ben64> yep, not running vnc server
[00:59] <Anuska> but is running
[01:00] <Anuska> hmm how i see in linux if is run?
[01:03] <Anuska> Ben64, thanks i resolve the problem
[01:03] <Ben64> wrong ip?
[01:03] <Anuska> but i add to run automated that command when
[01:04] <george__> trying xubuntu.. doesn't seem faster than cinnamon
[01:04] <george__> you guys know if i should install the nvidia propietary drivers.. or leave it as xubuntu configured?
[01:04] <Ben64> if you have an nvidia card, its usually a good idea to have the drivers for it
[01:05] <Anuska> Ben64,  i add this to run automated when i reboot the linux:  x11vnc -usepw -forever
[01:05] <Anuska> but no know why not running
[01:05] <george__> thanks Ben64
[01:07] <Anuska> Ben64, , how i disable Guest User?
[01:08] <utusan> deluser guest
[01:09] <Anuska> Guest Session , sorry
[01:14] <computa_mike> hi - Trying to add my blog to planet ubuntu - is it being hammered at the moment ?
[01:15] <owner> anyone have any experience with Broadcom 4313 wifi adapters and v12.04.4 LTS?
[01:16] <george__> ok, I'm starting to like xfce a lot
[01:16] <george__> you can move things
[01:16] <mstiehm> I have a head scratcher of a bind/ufw problem.. Anyone want to take a listen to the issue?
[01:16] <george__> do you know if i can move the panel to the bottom?
[01:16] <sonictwin> can gparted resize a partition on an SSD?
[01:16] <xangua1>  george__ yes
[01:16] <george__> sonictwin, yes it can
[01:17] <computa_mike> when committing back to Planet I'm getting the following: Cannot lock LockDir, and  Transport operation not possible: readonly transport
[01:17] <george__> xangua1, i dont see the option in setting managers-panel
[01:17] <sk1special> owner, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA%28Wireless%29    , second one second list
[01:18] <rww> computa_mike: are you an Ubuntu Member?
[01:18] <computa_mike> rww: I thought U was - I have a launchpad account, and I signed the code of conduct
[01:18] <rww> !membership
[01:19] <owner> sk1special - thanks. I think I tried this one (and about 40 other articles this week) but I will try again now
[01:19] <sonictwin> awesome. i just got a new laptop and it came with with windows 7 professional and i want to keep it for reasons. do think i'll have any problems in windows if i shrink the partition?
[01:19] <sk1special> owner, no prob. took me a bit to get mine working too, but that link helped me
[01:19] <rww> sonictwin: no. you can even shrink it from within Windows if you want
[01:19] <computa_mike> rww: ahh - looks like i'm not a member then
[01:19] <Anuska> HI, i have a laptop, and my wifi ( CHANGE the color (blue - red, blue -red ) so fast... how i disable that becouse never do that in win )
[01:19] <george__> ok, done
[01:20] <sonictwin> rww: really? no shit. is that built into windows or a 3rd party program
[01:20] <owner> oh ok. I have close to 50 hours in troubleshooting this. It worked for about 6 months on Kubuntu 12.04, then died last week. I even reinstalled today - no luck. Will try now and report back here then - thank you very much.
[01:20] <xangua> !language | sonictwin
[01:20] <rww> sonictwin: first party. right-click My Computer, click Manage, go to Disk Management or something. I don't have a Win7 Pro computer in front of me to get the exact instructions, but it's around there
[01:20] <sonictwin> sorry!
[01:20] <rww> Ubuntu Installer can do it too, though.
[01:21] <rww> Either way, make sure you have backups and such.
[01:21] <sonictwin> rww: cool. brand new laptop, dont really need backups. if i break windows, oh well. ill go full linux
[01:22] <Anuska> How to stop the blinking wifi LED on Ubuntu laptops ?
[01:22] <sonictwin> rww: so should i use gparted or the tool in windows? do you have first hand experience?
[01:23] <rww> sonictwin: both work fine for me. I'd use the Windows one if you already ran through the Windows configuration. Otherwise, may as well use the Ubuntu installer one
[01:24] <george__> soncitwin, if you want to install linux you might as well start the installation, once in you can resize the partition from there
[01:25] <sonictwin> rww: thanks for your help!
[01:25] <rww> you're welcome :)
[01:31] <treehouse> if I chroot a process, to a directory that contains a dir .../dev/sda1   ... and the chrooted process runs 'mount /dev/sda1' (trying to mount /dev/sda1) ...  that actually won't mount the device /dev/sda1/, will it? I've heard (in here) that you can mount devices in a chrooted environment, to access the hd root again
[01:31] <bekks> treehouse: thats nonsense, actually.
[01:32] <bekks> treehouse: having full access to device nodes inherits that you have full access to the system - which makes a chroot pointless.
[01:33] <owner> sk1special - I am at the reboot point in the article you provided above. I will reboot and brb. thx.
[01:34] <treehouse> bekks: ?
[01:34] <treehouse> how so?
[01:35] <sakka> Hi, everyone.
[01:35] <bekks> treehouse: As I said.  Having full access to a device node makes a chroot being pointless.
[01:36] <treehouse> bekks: in what way?
[01:36] <bekks> I can edit the device and its content outside the chroot when having full access.
[01:36] <bekks> Which is the worst case ever, ever, ever when using a chroot.
[01:36] <treehouse> how can you do that?
[01:37] <treehouse> what do you mean by 'having full access' btw?
[01:37] <bekks> treehouse: Being able to mount a raw device requires full access to the raw device.
[01:37] <Jordan_U> treehouse: Chroots are *not* a means of isolating processes. They provide no security whatsoever.
[01:38] <psusi> treehouse, you can mount a device in a chroot if you are root, just like you can outside... but if that isn't a device, then.... take a guess ;)
[01:38] <TJ-> bekks: I think you're misunderstanding, or I am. I *believe* treehouse means if there is a directory entry in the chroot "/dev/sda1" will mount treat it as a device node and mount it. The answer is, no, unless that path *is* a device node rather than a regular directory entry.
[01:38] <josh_> Ben64, in continuation of the lost windows partition, will gpart or other utility be capable of recovering files from where the paritition used to be?
[01:38] <rm_> so I uninstalled grub from apt-get. Now I've restarted and i cant get to ubuntu only gnu grub prompt. :'/
[01:38] <TJ-> rm_: And what did you expect?
[01:39] <bekks> TJ-: Well, unless that entry inside the chroot is a device node, it wont mount.
[01:39] <KM0201> rm_: sounds like you did exactly what you wanted to do.
[01:39] <TJ-> bekks: indeed, I think that was the thrust of treehouse's question, would an identical name somehow be treated as the device node
[01:40] <owner> anyone have any luck with Broadcom4313 wireless cards on 12.04 Precise?
[01:40] <rm_> TJ- I was getting fuss during installs about grub. Being a dummy I just tried to uninstall, reinstall.. clean it or something
[01:40] <treehouse> TJ-: indeed
[01:40] <rm_> KM0201 can i get back to my ubuntu install or am I SOL
[01:40] <KM0201> !grub
[01:41] <KM0201> rm_: i'd suggest following the instructions to restore grub.
[01:41] <bekks> TJ-: I didnt expect someone to assume a directory name forcing it to be a device node. my fault :)
[01:41] <Jordan_U> rm_: You can get back to your Ubuntu installation. Just follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot Note, I'm linking to a specific section of that page, follow the exact instructions I'm linking to.
[01:42] <TJ-> treehouse: Device nodes are created using "mknod" and have additional attributes (b == block, c == character, u == unbuffered, p == pipe. See "man pipe" and look at output of "ls -l /dev/sda" or "stat /dev/sda" and compare to a regular directory of the same name in the chroot
[01:42] <TJ-> bekks: I read it that way initially... then it didn't make sense so I re-read it with my 'innocent' head on :)
[01:43] <Jordan_U> treehouse: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2013/03/27/is-chroot-a-security-feature/ TLDR: Chroot is *not* a security feature.
[01:43] <treehouse> bekks, if I chroot a directory containing a binary, namely a ssh daemon, and run that process as a user 'duck' that has no root privileges.. and soneone connects to that ssh server and logs in as duck... will they be able to mount any devices?
[01:43] <treehouse> Jordan_U: I do realize that, I'm just trying to figure out to what extent it isn't :p
[01:44] <bekks> treehouse: No.
[01:44] <TJ-> Jordan_U: It sure is a security feature... I got lost in one last week because I was flipping between terminals, and thought some packages had somehow been uninstalled... It securely stopped me running those commands!
[01:44] <Jordan_U> treehouse: So completely that it's not even worth considering. There are options that provide real isolation, like containers or simply using an appropriate apparmor/selinux policy.
[01:44] <bekks> treehouse: Not unless you grant that user full access to the actual device nodes.
[01:44] <josh_> if ubuntu formatted itself over my windows partition whilst replacing 12.04, is it possibly for a utility to recover files from the lost partition?
[01:44] <treehouse> TJ-: ah, I get it. so what is a 'node'?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> josh_: Yes, though don't expect to recover everything, and you will likely not be able to recover the files' names either.
[01:45] <bekks> josh_: ubuntu does not "format itself" to anywhere.
[01:45] <treehouse> bekks: but if duck could run mknod+mount successfully, he'd be able to mount a device?
[01:45] <bekks> josh_: What did you actuall do?
[01:46] <TJ-> treehouse: It's a 'name' (dirent aka directory entry) in the file system that accesses some special 'kernel' file such as a block or character device (think disk or TTY), or pipe (FIFO aka First-In, First-Out)
[01:46] <bekks> treehouse: Tell us ONE good reason to provide ssh, mknode and mount in a chroot.
[01:47] <TJ-> bekks: Building and testing alternative Ubuntu releases
[01:47] <Jordan_U> bekks: Just because you don't provide the mount and mknod utilities doesn't mean that you block use of the underlying system calls.
[01:47] <josh_> bekks, booted 13.10 from liveusb, selected install, selected to replace previous 12.04 install and later noticed whole lot more disk space than the previous install
[01:47] <bekks> Jordan_U: thats the caveat of a chroot env.
[01:47] <josh_> Jordan_U, i expected so
[01:47] <Jordan_U> treehouse: I hope at this point that you realize that chroot is *not* a security feature and these questions are purely out of curiosity. Is that the case?
[01:48] <bekks> TJ-: for a chroot, mount --bind would be the better solution.
[01:48] <Jordan_U> bekks: It's one of many.
[01:48] <treehouse> Jordan_U: so, technically, you could upload mknod and execute it --the underlying system calls that is--? (or I assume you need root for that?)
[01:48] <treehouse> Jordan_U: indeed very much so.
[01:48] <Jordan_U> treehouse: The underlying system calls do need you to be running as root.
[01:49] <treehouse> Jordan_U: for example. I'm trying to figure out to what extent I can use chroot to prevent programs to bloat my file system, (and I'm trying to figure out a lot of other things)
[01:49] <TJ-> bekks: No, --bind is no good for build-testing, mount is required for some operations like, for example, grub-install, and also mounting the contents of the chroot's fstab, else the mtab is incorrect
[01:49] <Jordan_U> treehouse: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2013/03/27/is-chroot-a-security-feature/ explains much of this better than I can.
[01:50] <treehouse> alright :) thnx
[01:50] <Jordan_U> treehouse: You're welcome.
[01:52] <newhoa> I have a second hard drive I would like to use for my home directory. Can I just format the entire drive as ext4 in gparted then create a home directory on the drive. Or do I need to do something specific (set a mount point or change it to primary/extended partition, etc)?
[01:53] <josh_> Jordan_U, would you be kind enough to point me in the correct direction to recover?
[01:54] <treehouse> you can use chroot to run/test a program in a environment with 'different' dependencies. Now, how does that work? Is it the programs themselves, or the kernel that looks for dependencies relative the current '/' (root) for the process?
[01:54] <Nusoft> Hello?
[01:55] <mnemon> treehouse: the dependencies will be loaded by the program
[01:55] <Jordan_U> !photorec | josh_
[01:56] <josh_> !photorec
[01:56] <Nusoft> Anybody? Can I get a response so I know I'm not lagging or anonymous?
[01:56] <treehouse> mnemon: :D
[01:56] <Jordan_U> josh_: Sorry, turns out there's no factoid for it yet: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[01:57] <treehouse> mnemon: so how will the program know where to look for dependencies? Does it look at some environment variables?
[01:57] <josh_> Jordan_U, many thanks
[01:57] <Jordan_U> Nusoft: In the future please use #test for testing (or just start by ansking your question).
[01:58] <Nusoft> Okay then
[01:58] <Nusoft> Is Ubuntu a free OS? Cause I am planning on getting it in the future? Also what are the advantages of having Ubuntu?
[01:59] <TJ-> treehouse: see "man 2 chroot"
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Nusoft: Yes, Ubuntu is completely free.
[02:01] <Nusoft> Is there any advantages to having it? (i.e. software, performance, features, etc.)
[02:01] <Jordan_U> Nusoft: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop lists some of the advantages. There are many advantages and many disadvantages. I'd recommend trying it and seeing if you like it.
[02:01] <raphael> Hello
[02:01] <Nusoft> Hi, raphael!
[02:02] <raphael> Hello man
[02:02] <Nusoft> Thanks, Jordan_U! Apologies for the random message!
[02:02] <mnemon> treehouse: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html
[02:02] <Jordan_U> Nusoft: You're welcome, and no problem :)
[02:04] <ron__> news linux user here, just installed pear 8,,, any advice
[02:06] <josh_> Jordan_U, thank you so much! just got one of the important files i lost *hugs*
[02:06] <ron__> wow, so friendly!
[02:06] <Jordan_U> josh_: You're welcome :)
[02:08] <Jordan_U> ron__: Unfortunately it appears that Pear linux has been discontinued. I recommend installing Ubuntu proper.
[02:08] <ron__> proper?
[02:09] <treehouse> it seems that linux 'puts' the dynamic linker in the program, and THEN "the program itself" dynamically loads the libraries. That must mean that filepaths, such as /libs will mean /horse/libs if you've chrooted to /horse/ before executing that program
[02:09] <Jordan_U> ron__: Actual Ubuntu, from http://ubuntu.com, as opposed to an Ubuntu derivative.
[02:10] <ron__> well, i may just do that,,,, i had this netbook lying around and thought i would give linux a whirl on it,   i really liked the look and feel of pear,, shame is being discontinued
[02:12] <Jordan_U> ron__: You can make Ubuntu look prety much however you want, including making it look like Pear Linux used to. It will take additional work though. Have you tried Ubuntu's default look yet?
[02:12] <robmillernow> is there an IRC chat channel for Ubuntu noobs?
[02:12] <ron__> yeah ive had it before,,, its pretty nice, just been trying to find one that i like
[02:13] <robmillernow> for noobs to get help, that is?
[02:13] <ron__> im a noob too rob
[02:13] <TJ-> treehouse: No, the libc6 /lib*/ld-linux*.so loader is linked to all executables that use dynamic shared libraries (DSOs), and its code is called first by libc6 to link all other DSOs into the process's address space before execution is passed in
[02:14] <TJ-> treehouse: That's why you can influence which DSOs are loaded using the environment's LD_LIBRARY_PATH="..."
[02:14] <ron__> Jordan,,, have you had ubuntu on a netbook before?
[02:14] <robmillernow> I have REALLY noob questions that helpers of the level I've seen in here would get frustrated with me for asking...
[02:14] <robmillernow> i guess i need something like ELI5:Ubuntu
[02:15] <Jordan_U> ron__: Yes. And Ubuntu's current interface was actually originally designed for netbooks.
[02:15] <ron__> the one with the side bar?
[02:15] <ron__> is there anyway that thing can be moved to the bottom?
[02:16] <zzz> cd wont format cant install linux
[02:16] <robmillernow> oookay, i suppose not.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> robmillernow: People here should be willing to answer basic questions. We may point you to links to existing documentation that answers your question, but will also be willing to clarify things further if you don't understand said documentation (as long as you're willing to try).
[02:16] <ron__> im new too rob,,,, jordan seems to know quite a bit
[02:17] <robmillernow> cool, Jordan...thanks
[02:17] <Jordan_U> robmillernow: People who get frustrated by simple questions aren't really welcome here :)
[02:17] <Jordan_U> robmillernow: You're welcome.
[02:18] <zzz> cd wont format :(
[02:18] <robmillernow> heh... you should mention that to a couple of the "helpers" who were here this morning.
[02:18] <ron__> this pear os 8 looks alot like ios 7 and mac os mavericks combined
[02:18] <Jordan_U> zzz: Ubuntu's install images are to big to fit on CDs, you'll need to use a DVD.
[02:18] <Jordan_U> zzz: (Or a USB drive)
[02:18] <robmillernow> no sweat, though...i found a canadian in here who was willing to sidebar with me.
[02:19] <zzz> Okay, thanks ill see if I have one laying around
[02:22] <ron__> Jordan,,, just a noob question, when i first downloaded pidgen i tried to save the download to install later, and i some how lost it,,, couldnt find it anywhere, what did i do wrong,,,, i went to the app store and got it installed correctly, but still cant find that first download
[02:22] <treehouse> TJ-: so chroot changes LD_LIBRARY_PATH, that's why it works?
[02:24] <Jordan_U> treehouse: No. No change to LD_LIBRARY_PATH is needed because all file paths within the chroot, including open() calls from LD, are relative to the directory you chrooted into.
[02:25] <owner> anyone have great luck with Broadcom4313 wireless adapters in 12.04.4?
[02:26] <Jordan_U> treehouse: There is a tool called fakechroot that implements chroot like functionality without requiring root privileges by adding its own library to LD_PRELOAD which you might find interesting though.
[02:28] <Jordan_U> treehouse: Fakechroot doesn't work with programs that use system calls directly though, only those that use C libraries for file access (i.e. 99.9% of applications).
[02:29] <Ben64> !broadcom | owner
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ron__: Unfortunately we don't support non-Ubuntu distributions here. ##linux might, but since your distro has been discontinued and is not getting security updates it is *insecure*, and you should replace it as soon as possible.
[02:30] <ron__> ok thanks Jordan i think i have a copy of 13:10 is that a good one for something with low power like a netbook?
[02:31] <owner> Ben64 ubottu I will check that article - thanks. I've read and tried at least 40 different articles so far with no joy :(
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:33] <ron__> Should i download 12.04 instead?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> ron__: Yes, though of course it depends on how old the netbook is and if the graphics drivers for its hardware are good (even a fast modern computer will be slow with bad graphics drivers).
[02:33] <owner> i am to the point I will disable this wifi card and see about buying another one usb-based. sad thing is it worked for about 6 months in Kubuntu 12.04 and just puked last week for some reason.
[02:34] <Biodragon> how can I see which packages I have installed (or are installed) with apt-get?
[02:34] <ron__> owner it might be a hardware issue instead of software
[02:34] <ron__> its was once a windows 7 netbook if that helps
[02:34] <owner> ron__ that's what I am starting to think, yes. must have been zapped or something
[02:35] <Jordan_U> ron__: Then either 12.04 or 13.10 should be fine (as long as the graphics drivers are good).
[02:35] <ron__> ive had wifi cards go bad,,,, they can sometimes even still be recognized in the hardware profiler like they are still active, and still be a bad card
[02:36] <owner> it can see SSIDs, can connect (sometimes) can authenticate (sometimes) which depends on which article I am following to fix this, but never gets as far as assigning an IP.
[02:36] <ron__> might have to wipe and reinstall then owner
[02:37] <owner> I did that today too - even went from Kubuntu 12.04 to Ubuntu 12.04 - no joy - same thing <sigh>
[02:39] <ron__> yeah that bites!.......well i think im gonna go and load 13.10 into this thing, since my distro is no more!.......lol
[02:39] <owner> okj - good luck - checking newegg for a new usb wifi adapter :)
[02:40] <ron__> Jordan,,, just one more thing before i go,,,,, can i move that sidebar in ubuntu  to the bottom like a dock,,, if i can i think i will be happier with it
[02:41] <Ben64> owner: broadcom cards are pretty much the worst ones you can have for linux support. If you value your time, I suggest you get one that is better supported.
[02:43] <histumness> Has anyone else ever had an issue where when you try to view a flash video stream fullscreen, it does not center the video properly?
[02:43] <histumness> specifically this is happening for me on the videos on louisck.net
[02:43] <owner> Ben64 - agreed - it came with this Dell Precision M6700 mobile workstation - shelled out almost $8000 for it. Everything else is top-notch, but the wifi is really poor
[02:43] <ron__> thats a shame for something that expensive
[02:44] <owner> yep - it worked for 6 months too. I have a feeling I mucked it up somehow though :)
[02:44] <histumness> actually i think it's html5 video, not flash
[02:44] <ron__> possible
[02:45] <sakka> Hello. I'm trying to boot ubuntu 13.10 from a usb pen drive but it's not working. I tried several different things. Can you help me?
[02:49] <sakka> I think I'm missing something rellay basic, I just don't know what. I have been tinkering with this for days... any help is appreciated.
[02:50] <sakka> :(
[02:51] <mattlb> I have a problem with a webcam
[02:52] <sponzor> hi. i seted up vsftpd. now i can access it by web ftp://ip but how to access on web by ssl? or is ssl just for filezzila etc...?
[02:55] <owner> brb
[03:00] <ZzZ> Ok, burned linux to dvd but when I restart it still boots right up to windows, I cannot figure out how to boot to Linux.
[03:02] <sponzor> ZzZ: did you set up boot from dvd? you have to move it to first place and hdd second
[03:03] <sponzor> you can change boot settings in bios
[03:03] <daftykins> or sometimes there's a key for a one time boot menu
[03:06] <ZzZ> well i have tried f12 on startup and see no option to boot from cd-rom
[03:06] <ZzZ> wait looks like i got it
[03:06] <SvenOostenbrink> I just got a Ubuntu VPS, and I see some processes that I do not recognize, rcu_sched, rcu_bh,  and console-kit-dae.. Specially the first one is consuming a lot of CPU resources for some reason. What are these processes? What package can I remove to dump this process?
[03:07] <ZzZ> Yep go it nvm
[03:07] <ZzZ> got*
[03:07] <sponzor> np :)
[03:25] <Meow_> Hi, Linux does not detect my wi-fi network. ?
[03:34] <mmae> hi. i have freshly installed ubuntu gnome as the only os on my laptop. but it won't boot
[03:34] <mmae> this is the output of boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852983/
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !happensMeow_,
[03:35] <cfhowlett> mmae, won't boot?  hangs at system prompt?  black screen?  what?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> mmae: What happens when you try to boot?
[03:37] <mmae> after a few seconds of a blank screen i get: gave up waiting for root device [...] /dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist [...] dropping to shell
[03:38] <Meow_> Linux won't detect wi-fi network
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !wifi|Meow_,
[03:39] <cyphase> Meow_, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:39] <Meow_> 13.10
[03:40] <cyphase> Meow_, do you know what kind of wifi card you have?
[03:40] <Meow_> And no I don't
[03:40] <cyphase> can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[03:41] <mmae> i've reinstalled again but got the same boot error. does this point towards my usb-installation-media being broken? however, i can run the live-image just fine. as i am doing right now
[03:42] <cfhowlett> mmae, well, you DID do the md5sum check --- right?
[03:42] <mmae> no
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[03:43] <mmae> can i do that while the image is mounted?
[03:44] <Meow_> now where is my wireless card info on lspci -v?
[03:44] <cyphase> can you pastebin the output?
[03:46] <Meow_> Yes but how can i paste bin without connection?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> mmae: No, the md5sum test is done on the downloaded .iso file to verify.
[03:46] <cyphase> Meow_, ooh, i assumed you were on the computer via ethernet
[03:47] <cyphase> flash drive?
[03:47] <nearst> Meow_, lshw -c network
[03:49] <Meow_> okay, what should I look for?
[03:49] <nearst> Meow_, your wireless ?
[03:49] <Meow_> not on there
[03:50] <Meow_> linux won't even detect wireless
[03:50] <cyphase> Meow_, is this a laptop?
[03:50] <hyprvx> Help, I'm using xubuntu 13.10 and I don't have sound drivers and have no idea where I'd even find them
[03:51] <cfhowlett> hyprvx, "have no sound drivers"?  I doubt that.   More details, please.
[03:51] <Meow_> yes
[03:51] <cyphase> is the wifi hardware switch on?
[03:51] <Meow_> Sorry i mean no
[03:51] <Meow_> not a laptop
[03:51] <hyprvx> well, I'm trying to enable sound, but it's just perpetually on mute and there's no options in settings
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !soundbut
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !soundbug
[03:52] <cyphase> ubottu doesn't like you right now
[03:52] <hyprvx> let me guess, the fix is something like reboot?
[03:52] <hyprvx> !soundbug
[03:52] <cfhowlett> cyphase, true.  can you invoke the sound bug for me?
[03:53] <cyphase> !soundbug
[03:53] <cyphase> he says he knows nothing. lies!
[03:53] <hyprvx> it says it doesn't know anything about soundbug
[03:54] <nearst> ask!
[03:54] <hyprvx> is there a wiki article?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> hyprvx, you have drivers.  switching the sound on is the issue.  there's a known bug on 13.10 and a workaround - looking
[03:55] <Meow_> how do I install the drivers if I can't connect to the internet?
[03:56] <nearst> how can we help if u don't provide us with information
[03:57] <hyprvx> Meow_: Do you have a flash drive?
[03:57] <daftykins> we must become psychics
[03:57] <Meow_> yes I do
[03:59] <hyprvx> are you on another computer or a smartphone/tablet?
[04:00] <Meow_> another computer
[04:00] <hyprvx> download the drivers on this computer, send to flash drive, bring to other computer, install drivers, profit
[04:01] <Meow_> that sounds promising , ill try it, thanks
[04:02] <FWL73> Ubuntu 13.10 brightness problem in. Dell inspiron 15 R 7530 SE
[04:05] <FWL73> Which is best laptop under $1000 for linux
[04:05] <FWL73> ????
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !best|FWL73,
[04:06] <nearst> laptop! | FWL73
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !hardware
[04:06] <nearst> !laptop | FWL73
[04:09] <FWL73> And I want to know which is the best way to install AMD CPU driver in ubuntu , I tried different method like I download drive from AMD and then install , use jockey-gtk utility but nothing works for me
[04:09] <nearst> !fglrx | FWL73
[04:10] <FWL73> Is this a office guide
[04:10] <FWL73> ???
[04:10] <nearst> FWL73, unless ure gonna try with unstable stuff
[04:11] <hyprvx> Has someone found the soundbug workaround?
[04:12] <glitsj16> hyprvx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182038&p=12822062#post12822062 in relation to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[04:14] <FWL73> I try to find my gpu but no luck ,
[04:14] <FWL73> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[04:14] <iom> anyone with a sense of humor to give a hand with a problem mounting a HD?
[04:16] <SpArTaKo>  kern.log     4.6 gb :0
[04:16] <cfhowlett> FWL73, then you should write the wiki entry for your card - just like all those other folk did.
[04:16] <SpArTaKo> ufw.log           4.4
[04:16] <glitsj16> hyprvx: by now, as the bug report shows, there's a fix in indicator-sound-gtk2 v. 12.10.0.1-0ubuntu2.3 .. you should be able to just apt-get that
[04:17] <FWL73> Link pls
[04:17] <hyprvx> I installed the updates after installing xubuntu, so it should have just been bundled into that.
[04:18] <hyprvx> I've got two programs installing, and so after that I'll reboot
[04:18] <FWL73> (cfhowlett) link pls
[04:19] <cfhowlett> FWL73, at the wiki.  All of those entries came from people who were trying their card.  if YOUR card isn't listed, it's because no one has reported on it.  Here's your chance!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[04:20] <FWL73> Cfhowlett thanks
[04:21] <SpArTaKo>  kern.log     4.6 gb :0
[04:21] <SpArTaKo> ufw.log           4.4
[04:22] <SpArTaKo> ???
[04:22] <Meow_> can someone help please, my wireless driver is called "802.11 bgn1t1r" and I cannot find the drivers for it on Ralink
[04:22] <cfhowlett> SpArTaKo, why are you posting that stuff in channel?
[04:29] <glitsj16> Meow_: that is not a driver name, the 802.11.. refers to the wireless protocol .. use "lspci -nnk | grep Wireless -A 2", that should give you the chip name, id and driver in use
[04:30] <Meow_> Well, i'm on windows right now because I need to get the drivers over to Linux
[04:31] <Meow_> and I can't find the download for the drivers
[04:31] <glitsj16> Meow_: most drivers are in the kernel, but we can't confirm thatwithout knowing the specifics
[04:32] <glitsj16> Meow_: it was a desktop right?
[04:32] <Meow_> yes
[04:32] <glitsj16> Meow_: no ethernet connection in the desktop?
[04:32] <Meow_> nope :(
[04:33] <FWL73> Meow awesome desktop with no ethernet connection
[04:34] <mattlb> can anyone assist with a webcam issue ?
[04:34] <Meow_> Yes its awesome isn't it
[04:34] <FWL73> Yaa
[04:34] <Meow_> i have a wifi network :p
[04:34] <FWL73> Yes mttlb
[04:35] <FWL73> Yes mattlb
[04:36] <FWL73> mattlb
[04:36] <mattlb> why would a internal webcam that works fine in windows peg the proccessor out while recording in linux
[04:36] <glitsj16> Meow_: well, if it isn't miles away, try to get that info to the channel, go to the machine, run "sudo lshw -html > ~/Desktop/wifi-info.html" and you'll have a nice list describing the hardware .. copy that html file onto a USB stick and paste the lot on paste.ubuntu
[04:36] <glitsj16> .com
[04:38] <FWL73> Which utility ur using for webcam
[04:38] <mattlb> im using vlc right now
[04:38] <glitsj16> Meow_: or cuddle up to it close, might take several command outputs before anyone can actually see what is going on .. and we don't want to strain those meow paws
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !webcam|mattlb,
[04:39] <FWL73> Oh use cheese this best for webcam use
[04:40] <mattlb> when i use cheese and hit record it just freezes until i hit stop
[04:41] <FWL73> Okk
[04:41] <mattlb> vlc works but it hogs the cpu and wont display the picture on screen
[04:42] <FWL73> Hu
[04:42] <FWL73> Wait
[04:43] <mattlb> when i hit stop in cheese the cam stays on even thoughh the pic is still frozen, i have to go back to pic for it to unfreeze
[04:43] <mattlb> my guess is its just reloading the cam because the resolution is different
[04:45] <cfhowlett> mattlb, sounds like a cam driver issue.  common.
[04:45] <mattlb> how do i know if its using the right driver
[04:46] <cfhowlett> mattlb, search parameters:  computer make/model + ubuntu version
[04:47] <FWL73> mattlb check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/249772/cant-capture-video-with-cheese-ubuntu-12-10
[04:49] <FWL73> And this http://askubuntu.com/questions/186003/anything-better-than-cheese-for-video-capture
[04:49] <mattlb> FWL73, different issue
[04:50] <cfhowlett> mattlb, it's not the apps that are failing - you need to config or install the right driver
[04:50] <FWL73> Try above that guy show a solution
[04:50] <ron__> well installed ubuntu 13.10 and updated, so  Jordan_U any advice for a noob?
[04:52] <ron__> seems ok on this little netbook, but its reporting it as an intel atom n270x2 and i thought it was a single core
[04:53] <MK`> When Ubuntu tells me it has detected a system problem, where is that logged?
[04:55] <ron__> im sure it runs a system error report somewhere, but im new, so if you find out let me know. i should need that too at some point i suppose
[04:56] <glitsj16> MK`: i don't know of any specific file location, but you can see it if you press the 'Details' button
[04:57] <MK`> It only has Cancel or Report Problem, doesn't always list details. hmm
[04:57] <mattlb> cfhowlett, its using a uvc driver
[04:58] <MK`> Ah, there's a 250MB crash file for Chromium in /var/crash. Will deleting that stop it popping up?
[04:58] <cfhowlett> mattlb, what *buntu are you on?
[04:58] <mattlb> lubuntu
[04:59] <glitsj16> MK`: hard to tell, but that's quite the dump .. anything odd when you use chromium?
[04:59] <MK`> Just the occasional flash crash
[04:59] <cfhowlett> mattlb, sudo apt-get install lubunut-restricted-extras     to get all the codecs.
[04:59] <MK`> I don't plan on reporting the errors though, so is deleting the crash log safe?
[05:00] <glitsj16> flash .. the adobe version or the google pepperflash?
[05:00] <glitsj16> MK`: sure, that's safe
[05:00] <MK`> I don't know which it is. But yeah, it pops up to remind me to report rather frequently, so I'll get rid of the crash log
[05:02] <mattlb> cfhowlett, it looks like guvcview works fine
[05:02] <glitsj16> MK`: it might keep on doing that, removing the crash log won't keep apport from trying to report home if you keep it running
[05:02] <cfhowlett> mattlb, so then - all fixed?
[05:02] <mattlb> cfhowlett,  yea thanks
[05:02] <MK`> glitsj16: how would I go about quickly restarting apport then?
[05:02] <glitsj16> MK`: check the about:plugins page in chromium to see which one it is, so you can at least try to switch
[05:03] <glitsj16> http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[05:04] <MK`> Adobe Flash, glitsj16. I've renamed the crash report files for now, I will see if that does anything.
[05:04] <glitsj16> MK`: is this on 13.10?
[05:04] <MK`> 12.04
[05:05] <bryon> anybody alive who knows anything about pulseaudio?
[05:06] <glitsj16> MK`: thx, there's a guide somewhere on how to get pepperflashplugin installed in chromium, i'll try and track it down
[05:06] <Meow> no luck on anything
[05:09] <glitsj16> MK`: i'll keep looking for the guide, but it comes down to either add a PPA --> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/test or download the trusty deb (i checked dependencies and it should be ok for precise but not sure 100%)
[05:10] <MK`> Alright, thanks.
[05:10] <lickalott> hey guys, anyone use jitsi here?
[05:10] <lickalott> i'm having an issue with it launching (after an initial good launch).  I'm stuck with a JavaEmbeddedFrame icon in the taskbar with no functionality.  (https://java.net/projects/jitsi/lists/dev/archive/2013-03/message/464)  hasn't been resolved from Java.  wondering if anyone has fixed this issue
[05:12] <glitsj16> MK`: here's the link --> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-flash-player-installer-for.html
[05:16] <MK`> thanks, I will check it out
[05:34] <dixoncx> I want to measure data usages through ppp0 interfaces. I can see it with ifconfig - RX bytes & TX bytes. But when it re-connects, counter reset to 0. Any other cli tools for this ?
[05:35] <arlen> vnstat
[05:36] <dixoncx> arlen, thanks. will give a try..
[05:37] <arlen> np
[05:58] <FuuqUmiist> why don't privacy advocates recommend any linux distro based on Ubuntu?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> !ot|FuuqUmiist,
[06:03] <niranjan> On 12.04 desktop, using two monitors, how do I force a program to always open on desired monitor?
[06:03] <niranjan> It works great otherwise
[06:20] <Mongo44> Are there any Linux antiviruses?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> !antivirus
[06:20] <Tom1> only 100 in the world
[06:21] <Tom1> there are only 100 viruses for  linux
[06:22] <Mongo44> That is exactly my circumstance. I don't want to give out a Windows virus in an email.
[06:22] <Tom1> is there need to create swap file for Ubuntu?
[06:22] <cfhowlett> Mongo44, clamav is quite popular and well maintained
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Tom1: If you want to be able to hibernate, and you don't have a swap partition, yes.
[06:22] <cfhowlett> Tom1, depends - but can't hurt
[06:23] <Tom1> i mean can ubuntu withough swap partition, or it is compulsory to create.
[06:23] <Mongo44> Tom1, is there a write up on these 100 viruses?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Tom1, no it's not compulsory ...
[06:24] <Tom1> that;s nice,
[06:24] <Tom1> anyways , swap partition is never used.
[06:24] <Tom1> it always shows as 0% swap usage.
[06:24] <matias> alguien que hable español?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> !es|matias,
[06:26] <bryon> i normally leave my computer on 24/7, but I had a pang of eco-conscience yesterday and told my comp to "suspend" before heading to work. 12 hours later, i got home and tried to wake my computer. it didn't wake up. I did a hard shutdown and tried to bring it back up, but it just had stopped completely. Not having the time or resources to diagnose it myself, i took it into a tech today who told me the power supply had gone bad. does anyone think it could have
[06:26] <bryon> holy paragraph
[06:26] <cfhowlett> bryon, how about a pastie instead
[06:28] <bryon> cfhowlett: like... nipple covering for strippers?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> !paste|bryon,  to avoid paragraph panic in channel.  type up your issue and paste the link ONLY in the channel
[06:29] <bryon> ah, pastebin
[06:29] <bryon> i was confused
[06:30] <bryon> i'll for sure do that for future questions that are actually novellas
[06:30] <bryon> i didn't realize that was so long until i shit enter
[06:30] <bryon> hit*
[06:31] <Jordan_U> bryon: Your original message was cut off at "does anyone think it could have".
[06:31] <bryon> does anyone think it  could have been damaged by the computer possibly failing to suspend properly?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> bryon, possibly ...
[06:31] <santhosh> hai iam install kolab on ubuntu how to change directory manager password
[06:32] <cfhowlett> bryon, odor of burning electrical components?
[06:32] <Tom1> cfhowlett: is a swap partition really needed in unbutu installation? i have 4 gb ram and i use lightweight programs
[06:32] <Jordan_U> bryon: I don't see how a good power supply could be damaged by suspending.
[06:32] <bryon> cfhowlett: there may have been, but i didn't arrive back on the scene until ~12 hours after i told it to suspend
[06:32] <bryon> Jordan_U: i agree, but i'm curious whether the OS failed somewhere in the process of suspending
[06:33] <Jordan_U> bryon: It may have, but I don't see how it could fail in a way that would damage hardware.
[06:34] <bryon> Jordan_U: i also suspect that the power i draw is perhaps not so consistent
[06:34] <Tom1> can a Os damage  a hardware?
[06:35] <bryon> i have experienced power fluctuations/loss on multiple occasions, and i suspect that my power strip doesn't actually offer any protection
[06:35] <santhosh> hai iam install kolab on ubuntu how to change directory manager password
[06:35] <bryon> am considering a UPS with power conditioning
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Tom1: If you want to be able to suspend to disk (hibernate) you need to have swap. It's also nice to have if you do start running out of physical ram for some reason, and has very little downside (basically just the disk space allocated for it when not in use). But no, if you don't want to suspend to disk then you don't need swap.
[06:36] <Tom1>  Jordan_U: thanks for the detailed info.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Yes, but only in extremely rare conditions (usually involving buggy hardware).
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Tom1: You're welcome.
[06:38] <Tom1>  Jordan_U:  and if ever such conditions start to arise , the machine will automatically shut itself down.
[06:38] <Tom1> to prevent further damage.
[06:40] <bynarie> hello
[06:40] <bynarie> how to compile source?
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !compile|bynarie,
[06:41] <bynarie> thanks
[06:45] <ezrhino> hello. Will disabling Nvidia X Server Settings from startup have any negative effects ?
[06:49] <glitsj16> ezrhino: that depends on what settings you activated exactly .. but it only starts, sends config values to X and exits, so why are you looking to disable it?
[06:50] <ezrhino> well i figured it wuold make startup faster.
[06:50] <rww> it won't
[06:50] <ezrhino> i have never used the settings other than defualt
[06:50] <ezrhino> ok, ty rww
[06:50] <ezrhino> rw
[06:50] <glitsj16> nah, it does a quick in & out that shouldn't be even noticeable
[06:50] <rww> and runs in parallel with other things, i expect
[06:51] <ezrhino> anything in startup that i can disable for performance ?
[06:57] <burhan> has anyone run into the problem where os-prober is showing Windows partition, but ubiquity doesn't detect it?
[06:57] <Jordan_U> burhan: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[07:00] <waterloo2005> where to upload screenshot?
[07:00] <bryon> imgur is a decent image host
[07:00] <bryon> imgur.com
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !paste|waterloo2005,
[07:07] <bynarie> me
[07:17] <burhan> has anyone run into the problem where os-prober is showing Windows partition, but ubiquity doesn't detect it?
[07:18] <burhan> oops sorry I didn't see your comment @Jordan_U
[07:18] <burhan> be right back from the actual machine having the issue.
[07:19] <Serraphyn> Hi, I had a friend build me a computer with windows 8 but, I really hate windows 8 a lot. My concern is how my components I have i the tower will work with linux
[07:19] <Serraphyn> I have ubuntu 13.10 install right now, but I'm not sure how to check if everything is working right.
[07:19] <cfhowlett> !hardware|Serraphyn,
[07:20] <Serraphyn> Are those links for people new to ubuntu?
[07:21] <cfhowlett> Serraphyn, those links are for people with hardware questions ...
[07:21] <Serraphyn> I'm not sure of what hardware I even have. Is there a program or something that can put out a list?
[07:23] <Serraphyn> Reason I'm wanting to stabilize my system is I can afford to swap out parts if something not 'up to specs'
[07:26] <glitsj16> !hardinfo | Serraphyn .. you can generate a full hardware report using ..
[07:27] <sensae> How do I use Evolution to remind me that a specific event has occured?
[07:27] <glitsj16> Serraphyn: well the bot doesn't know about it, but there's a package called hardinfo that gives what you want
[07:27] <rww> !info hardinfo
[07:29] <rf5> Hello. im getting this message :p:, OpenSSL 0.9.8c 05 Sep 2006 when typing ssh -V , whats going on ?  any ideas?
[07:30] <bryon> ssh version
[07:30] <bryon> do you want verbose mode?
[07:30] <rf5> how do i fix that? i tried apt-get remove ssh and then install, didnt fix
[07:30] <bryon> that is lower-case v
[07:30] <rf5> i want the proper one, saying OpenSSH_4.3p2 blabla
[07:31] <rf5> no idea why its saying :p:
[07:31] <bryon> ah
[07:31] <bryon> me either
[07:31] <cfhowlett> rf5, sudo apt-get purge ssh && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get remove and THEN do your install
[07:31] <rf5> ah ok
[07:31] <rf5> ill try
[07:32] <rf5> E: Invalid operation purge
[07:32] <cfhowlett> apt-get purge ssh
[07:33] <rf5> yes, same thing. invalid operation
[07:33] <rf5> maybe its outdated?
[07:33] <cfhowlett> rf5, nope - use it all the time
[07:33] <cfhowlett> rf5, sudo apt-get purge ssh*
[07:34] <rf5> same thing, saying purge is an invalid operation, i checked apt-get options and there isnt purge there
[07:35] <rf5> i might be running an old version of apt-get?
[07:35] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get --purge remove ssh*
[07:35] <glitsj16> rf5: use the .. remove --purge syntax .. and tell us output of .. cat /etc/issue .. please
[07:35] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, thanks
[07:36] <OerHeks> else you would remover purge without --
[07:36] <glitsj16> oops, wrong syntax, thx OerHeks
[07:37] <rf5> one sec, i just started upgrade, thought it would help lol
[07:38] <Flat4ForLife> anyone available with some knowledge on dual booting ubuntu and macbook pro off of a USB?
[07:39] <rf5> worked with --purge, thanks glitsj16 OerHeks and cfhowlett
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !mac|Flat4ForLife,
[07:41] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: pretty much it is about installing http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ and then booting the OS you want
[07:41] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: after that, it is about having UEFI bootable installation on your USB drive
[07:42] <Flat4ForLife> faugusztin: i have done that, converted the ubuntu image to a img, dd the image to the usb, and when i try to boot from it, it tells me no bootable media found (I'm kind of a linux newb here so just following instructions)
[07:42] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: have you tried unetbootin ? i never used anything else
[07:42] <Flat4ForLife> no i haven't, don't know what it is
[07:42] <faugusztin> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[07:43] <faugusztin> it formats your flash to FAT32, partitions if necessary, then copies files from ISO images over
[07:44] <faugusztin> pretty much the only thing you need for UEFI boot is for the drive to be FAT32 formated and the EFI\boot directory contain a .efi file (bootx64.efi for 64bit i think()
[07:45] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: there's also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[07:45] <helmut_> hi
[07:45] <Flat4ForLife> faugusztin: looking at that now, thanks
[07:46] <Flat4ForLife> glitsj16: i have tried that, but it doesn't work
[07:46] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: the native OS X instructions should do it
[07:47] <Flat4ForLife> again, i have tried that. it doesn't work
[07:47] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: as i said, i simply resized the OS X partition, then installed rEFInd, created my USB stick using unetbootin (Gnome Ubuntu 13.10) on WIndows, plugged USB stick in, restarted mac mini, selected the Linux boot item in rEFInd menu, installed Ubuntu :)
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Flat4ForLife, I installed ubuntu/windows/osx on a DELL with reFind - it does work
[07:50] <Flat4ForLife> cfhowlett: i am not saying that refind doesn't work, it recognizes the USB. however, when i choose it, it tells me it can't find a bootable media. which seems to be a very common thing for macs. i am trying faugusztin's method now
[07:54] <Flat4ForLife> faugusztin: after creating the USB with unetbootin, it tells me "The created USB device will not boot off a Mac. Insert it into a PC, and select the USB boot option in the BIOS boot menu."
[07:54] <Tom1> how do i know if my computer is pae or non pae?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> !pae
[07:55] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: i think they don't expect people having rEFInd installed
[07:55] <Flat4ForLife> oh ok
[07:55] <SonikkuAmerica> I never assume that...
[07:55] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: because with standard bootloader, it surely won't boot
[07:55] <Flat4ForLife> well ill try it now, if not ill be back tomorrow or something
[07:55] <Tom1> i mean how do i  find if my computer is pae or non pae.
[07:55] <Flat4ForLife> thanks
[07:55] <OerHeks> Tom1, if " cat /proc/cpuinfo "does not show pae in the flags line for the processor, it isn't
[07:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Tom1: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[07:56] <return0> Anyone know of a tablet which can run regular Ubuntu? I have a BT keyboard that'd go well with it
[07:56] <Tom1> all modern computers are pae or non pae, i mean one which are manufactured after 2008?
[07:57] <OerHeks> Tom1, that does not work that way, some recent processors do not support PAE too
[07:57] <faugusztin> return0: while bay trail tablets boot ubuntu, in most cases it is not usable, os i wouldn't try it
[07:58] <cfhowlett> return0, regular ubuntu is optimized for the desktop.  try ubuntu touch
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !touch
[07:58] <return0> cfhowlett: Can I run a regular desktop on touch?
[07:59] <return0> I basically want a tablet to be an overglorified terminal
[07:59] <cfhowlett> return0, with considerable effort and less than optimal results - yes
[08:00] <dav`> EFI question: Can I wipe all the GPT partitions labeled as EFI or does Ubuntu require some of them (I do not care about dual booting Windows)
[08:02] <dontanswerdave> Don't answer dav
[08:03] <mmaea> hi. i have wifi connection problems. i can see the wifi but keep getting prompted for the password when trying to connect
[08:03] <mmaea> it is definitively the correct password
[08:04] <dav`> http://paste.debian.net/79614/ <= here's a list of my partitions. Is any of this required to be kept for Ubuntu to run or can I wipe all?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> mmaea, change the wifi password and try again
[08:04] <dav`> (ignore dontanswerdave)
[08:04] <mmaea> i tried rebooting the router, enableing this wifi for all users in the settings, deleting the wifi alltogether then rebooting and starting fresh over
[08:05] <masterubuntu> Dav: you should be okay
[08:05] <bryon> mmaea: what is your wifi adapter type? Broacom?
[08:06] <bryon> s/Broacom/Broadcom/
[08:07] <mmaea> bryon: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[08:07] <mmaea> that's what you were looking for right?
[08:08] <bryon> yeah. are you using the Broadcom driver for it?
[08:08] <mmaea> i found one guy in the forums that seemed to have the same issues and it was related to some rights management issues. but the person never went into detail if and how they managed to fix it
[08:08] <mmaea> how can i check the driver?
[08:08] <dav`> Could anyone help with EFI concerns?
[08:09] <mmaea> iwlwifi is loaded according to lsof, so i guess it's not the Broadcom driver
[08:11] <bryon> mmaea: great question.. i am blanking
[08:12] <bryon> hold on a sec
[08:12] <mmaea> how about the rights management angle. could it be that the network daemon is started by a user that can't access the password? smth like this?
[08:12] <faugusztin> dav`: if you don't need any original data, just delete all partitions, boot ubuntu installer in UEFI mode and let it do it's job, if needed it will create the needed partitions
[08:12] <bryon> that's not implausible
[08:12] <dav`> faugusztin: thanks. how to boot it specifically in UEFI mode?
[08:13] <bryon> like if you're storing the password ina  keychain not accessible by all users
[08:13] <bryon> but i'm not 100% certain of that, having never encountered it myself
[08:14] <mmaea> my ubuntu 13.10 install ist completely fresh and vanilly, btw
[08:14] <mmaea> just did it this morning
[08:14] <bryon> i would surprised if it were a permissions problem, then
[08:15] <mmaea> can i start the networking daemon w/ sudo to see if that changes anything?
[08:16] <Prasoon> Hi, i had ubuntu 1304 64 bit OS ..then upgraded to 1310 via the update manager. the all went through  good ... but when the system restarted and after i enter the Login password i get "sorry ubuntu 13.10 has experienced an internal error".... CAN somebody help ... ??
[08:16] <bryon> mmaea: you could try it
[08:17] <mmaea> how?
[08:18] <bryon> mmaea: oh, i don't know, it sounded like you did
[08:18] <bryon> sorry
[08:19] <bryon> mmaea: do a lspci -k | grep -A 2 and see what driver is currently in use
[08:19] <bryon> errr
[08:19] <bryon> mmaea: do a lspci -k | grep -A 2 Network
[08:20] <Beldar> Prasoon, Can you be more detailed, is the desktop showing and working, and which de is it? Is this a apport popup?
[08:21] <Prasoon> Beldar, it is just a pop up and ther are no icons or bars
[08:22] <mmaea> bryon: "Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi"
[08:22] <Beldar> Prasoon, Do you need to load a graphic driver to get the desktop.....which is which one?
[08:23] <bryon> mmaea: well, that driver DOES support your wireless device, according to the internet
[08:23] <bryon> so i officially got nothin
[08:23] <bryon> um
[08:24] <Prasoon> Beldar,i am not an expert, but previously wheni upgraded to 1304... there was no additional graphic driver loaded
[08:24] <bryon> can you make you wireless password-free and connect?
[08:24] <bryon> mmaea: ^^
[08:25] <Beldar> Prasoon, Not sure myself.
[08:25] <bryon> like, connect to your router w/ a cable and remove the password?
[08:25] <Prasoon> Beldar,is there a way to open the terminal .. like some shortcut key ??
[08:26] <bryon> if you can, that would suggest to me that your wireless actually WORKS and there is a problem somewhere with your configuration
[08:26] <Beldar> Prasoon, try ctrl-alt-t
[08:26] <bryon> like maybe the password is correct, but you're trying to connect w/ WEP instead of WPA2 or something
[08:26] <Prasoon> Beldar, nope
[08:27] <Prasoon> Beldar ,is there any possibility of recovering my system ??
[08:28] <Beldar> Prasoon, You can go to a tty with ctrl-alt-f1 that is a off the desktop command line and come back with f2-f7
[08:28] <Beldar> f2-to f-7
[08:28] <Prasoon> Beldar, i got a screen
[08:29] <Beldar> Prasoon, Actually come back with ctrl-alt-f7. You gotta screen means?
[08:29] <Prasoon> seems like a different kind of terminal screen
[08:30] <Beldar> Prasoon, the tty is black it is the same command control of the terminal.
[08:31] <Prasoon> ok.... can i undo the upgrade or re do the update from here ??
[08:31] <Beldar> Prasoon, yes, and anything else from a desktops terminal does
[08:31] <Beldar> Prasoon, ER no undo upgrade sorry
[08:32] <Prasoon> is it possible for you to guide me ??
[08:32] <Beldar> Prasoon, Try sudo apt-get -f install that will finish any updates that may not have. Otherwise this is a problem you would need other helpers with.
[08:34] <Prasoon> ok .. it seems to do something ...
[08:36] <Beldar> Prasoon, Is it finishing upgrades?
[08:40] <dst_> good evening.  can anyone help me with an ubuntu version issue?
[08:40] <bryon> mmaea: someone can, i'm sure
[08:40] <bryon> err
[08:40] <bryon> dst_: someone can, i'm sure
[08:41] <bryon> what is your issue?
[08:41] <dst_> I have a student who installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on his netbook.  But something is screwy.  He's getting a 3.8.0-33 kernel.
[08:41] <dst_> Why is he getting that kernel?  When I install I get a 3.5.0 kernel.
[08:41] <k1l> dst_: its the enablement stack
[08:41] <ring3> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.game.platforms.planetsdemo
[08:41] <Ben64> dst_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:41] <dst_> Also, he's getting a device driver whose vermagic syas 3.8.0-35 instead of 3.8.0-33
[08:41] <Beldar> dst_, 12.04.3 release has that kernel, part of a kernel stack release for the LTS.
[08:41] <k1l> dst_: they changed to newer kernel because of the old kernal samsung issue
[08:42] <dst_> lemme go read that page...
[08:42] <bryon> dst_: see? someone was able to help. =]
[08:42] <Prasoon> its progressing...
[08:43] <dst_> well he's got a device driver that doens't match the kernel, which is causing him problems.
[08:43] <k1l> ring3: no ads in here, please
[08:43] <ring3> oks
[08:43] <ring3> is a html5 android game
[08:44] <dst_> if he does "modinfo gspca_ov534" the vermagic string says 3.8.0-35 but his kernel is 3.8.0-33
[08:44] <ordroid> will 14.04 work with secure boot and uefi?
[08:44] <dst_> that can't work, right?
[08:44] <Beldar> !14.04 | ordroid
[08:45] <Vivekananda> I am trying a sudo chown -R user a/b/c/*  to change ownership of folder C and its contents to user but on ls -la I still see  user root
[08:45] <ordroid> yes or no
[08:45] <Tom1> can i boot a non-pae os in a pae machine?
[08:45] <k1l> ordroid: no support for dev versions in here :)
[08:46] <bryon> Vivekananda: chown user:user
[08:46] <bekks> Tom1: PAE is an OS facility, not a machine facility.
[08:47] <bryon> Vivekananda: sudo chown user:user -R a/b/c/* is what you want, i think
[08:48] <dst_> how can he fix the issue with his gspca_ov534 driver having the wrong vermagic string?
[08:48] <k7jkz> want to change device/computer name
[08:49] <bekks> dst_: The only way is to recompile the module.
[08:50] <dst_> bekks: but doesn't this mean that ubuntu is shipping the wrong module?
[08:50] <k1l> dst_: are you sure there was no fiddeling before?
[08:50] <dst_> bekks: this kid doesn't know how to compile kernel modules; he didn't bring this problem on himself.
[08:50] <k1l> which module is that for what hardware?
[08:51] <Vivekananda> I am trying a sudo chown -R user a/b/c/*  to change ownership of folder C and its contents to user but on ls -la I still see  user root . all directories have ls -la like this  -rwxr-xr-x 1 user root  97319556 Jan  3 18:03
[08:51] <dst_> gspca_ov534 supports the Sony Eye webcam
[08:51] <dst_> He's actually using this on a robot; the webcam is the robot's eye.
[08:52] <dst_> I don't think he did anything screwy, just installed Ubuntu and ran the update-manager.
[08:52] <bekks> Vivekananda: You didnt change the group-
[08:52] <dst_> So how did he end up with a device driver that doesn't match the kernel version?
[08:52] <Prasoon> Beldar, should i execute any other command ??
[08:52] <bekks> dst_: We dont know how he got that module.
[08:52] <Vivekananda> isnt the first one the name and then the groun ?
[08:53] <dst_> bekks, is there an easy way to get him the proper module, without him having to recompile it himself?
[08:53] <Vivekananda> I tried doing sudo chown -R user:user a/b/c/*
[08:53] <bekks> Vivekananda: you didnt specify a second one, as you told above.
[08:53] <bekks> dst_: No.
[08:53] <Prasoon> it said 2 added & 3 removed  and waiting at command prompt for an input ... what should i do next ??
[08:53] <bekks> dst_: We dont know how he got the module so the generic answer is "recompile the module".
[08:54] <dst_> bekks, another screwy thing is that his "uname -a" is still showing 12.04.3 instead of 12.04.4.  When I run update manager on my Ubuntu machines I end up at 12.04.4.
[08:54] <dst_> bekks, why isn't he migrating to 12.04.4?
[08:54] <bekks> dst_: Then he didnt run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo init 6
[08:54] <dst_> no, he did apt-get update and then update-manager
[08:55] <bekks> dst_: Which doesnt update the kernel.
[08:55] <dst_> It seems to update the kernel when I run it
[08:55] <bekks> dst_: Then fix that issue if you know it better :)
[08:56] <dst_> I'm just wondering why I'm seeing different behavior than him.
[08:56] <bekks> dst_: I explained it to you.
[08:56] <dst_> Well, I'll tell him to try the dist-upgrade thing.
[08:56] <dst_> what's the purpose of "init 6"
[08:56] <bekks> dst_: rebooting the box, to run the new kernel.
[08:57] <dst_> why not just type "reboot"?  is "init 6" faster?
[08:57] <bekks> dst_: On linux, both do exactly the same.
[08:57] <dst_> oh, okay.  thanks for answering my questions.  we'll try the dist-upgrade
[08:57] <Vivekananda> bekks: when I say sudo chown -R alex:alex folder  does this not mean that I am changing both user and group to alex ?
[08:58] <bekks> Vivekananda: Yes, and it requires the user alex to be existing, as well as the group named alex.
[08:59] <bryon> sorry, i was in another channel.
[08:59] <bryon> Vivekananda: what bekks said
[09:00] <Prasoon> Beldar;thank you very much .... i worked ... Thank you very much...
[09:01] <Vivekananda> okay also what does -rwxr-xr-x 1 alex root  97319556 Jan  3 18:03 this demonstrate ?  after executing that command on the same folder ?
[09:02] <bekks> Vivekananda: You just pasted the first part of the line - the second part is important, too.
[09:03] <bryon> Vivekananda: that is telling you the permission, user, group, filesize and modification date of that file
[09:04] <bryon> file permissions are Read, Write, and eXecute for user, group, and other
[09:05] <bryon> so -rwxrw-r-- means the user that owns the file has read write and execute permissions, the group just has read and write, and others can only read
[09:05] <Vivekananda> bryon: I know the second part too . but I am trying so many times to change the "user" to root but somehow it is not changing
[09:05] <bekks> bryon: r-x means: only read and execute permissions.
[09:05] <Ben64> Vivekananda: you said you were trying to change it to user
[09:06] <bekks> Vivekananda: Then name the exact command you are using. No examples, the very exact command YOU are using.
[09:06] <Vivekananda> Ben64: sorry I was trying to change it to root. It is already a user
[09:06] <bryon> bekks: yeah, i was explaining my example, but yeah
[09:06] <Ben64> then.... use root in the command instead of alex
[09:07] <Vivekananda> sudo chown -R root /media/Yojimbo/alts
[09:07] <bekks> Vivekananda: That doesnt change the group at all.
[09:07] <Devil> hi
[09:07] <bryon> Vivekananda: sudo chown -R root:root /media/Yojimbo/alts
[09:09] <Vivekananda> I tried that : sudo chown -R root:root /media/Yojimbo/alts
[09:10] <bekks> Vivekananda: And...?
[09:10] <k7jkz> what text editor(s) may i run at command line? trying to edit /etc/hostname to new name
[09:10] <bekks> k7jkz: nano, vi, emcas, joe, ed, and many more.
[09:10] <Ben64> k7jkz: nano, vim, edit, hexedit
[09:10] <k7jkz> tks will try
[09:10] <bryon> Vivekananda: whatever user you're logged in as will need sudo permissions
[09:10] <elladeea> :(
[09:10] <elladeea> i connot install adobe on ubuntu 12.4
[09:11] <Vivekananda> and after that ls -la /media/Yojimbo/alts   :  -rwxr-xr-x 1 alex root      6144 Dec 14 06:03 Thumbs.db
[09:11] <bekks> !flash | elladeea
[09:11] <bekks> Vivekananda: Is that a FAT32 filesystem?
[09:11] <bekks> Vivekananda: Or NTFS?
[09:11] <Vivekananda> bryon: I understand that and provided the necessary permissions
[09:11] <Vivekananda> it is ntfs
[09:11] <OerHeks> bekks +1
[09:11] <bekks> Vivekananda: Then you cant change permissions with chmod.
[09:12] <Vivekananda> owww shoot
[09:12] <bryon> haha, that will do it
[09:12] <Vivekananda> but how did you guess that !!
[09:12] <bekks> Vivekananda: Blame it on Microsoft not providing POSIX cpabilities to that filesystem.
[09:12] <Vivekananda> blamed Microsoft !!
[09:12] <Ben64> wait, what filesystem is it
[09:12] <Vivekananda> microsoft you idiot !
[09:12] <bekks> Vivekananda: Thumbs.db is a Windows file.
[09:12] <bekks> Ben64: NTFS.
[09:12] <Ben64> oh, could have saved a LOT of time
[09:12] <Guest71170> I have a very strange installation lsb_rLSB Version:	core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-amd64:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-amd64:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-amd64:security-4.1-noarch
[09:12] <Guest71170> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[09:12] <Guest71170> Description:	Bodhi 2.3.0
[09:12] <Guest71170> Release:	12.04
[09:12] <Guest71170> Codename:	preciseelease -a gives me this :
[09:12] <FloodBot1> Guest71170: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <bryon> ha ha, i didn't even read all the way to the end of the line
[09:13] <Vivekananda> so there is no way to change permissions there ?
[09:13] <k7jkz> guess my regular admin password does not work for su...
[09:13] <bryon> i was looking just at the user:group
[09:13] <Ben64> Vivekananda: ntfs has funky permissions, they don't work with others
[09:13] <bekks> Vivekananda: There are. BY using the mount command.
[09:13] <bekks> !ntfs | Vivekananda
[09:13] <Ben64> !root | k7jkz
[09:13] <Guest71170> But my installation is Ubuntu 13.10
[09:13] <bekks> Guest71170: USe a pastebin please.
[09:14] <Ben64> Guest71170: sorry, but we don't support bodhi linux here
[09:14] <Guest71170> yes I saw it thanks
[09:14] <bekks> Guest71170: And you are not using Ubuntu, but Bodhi linux.
[09:14] <gordonjcp> k7jkz: use sudo instead of su
[09:14] <Guest71170> No i'm using Ubuntu
[09:14] <Guest71170> just a very strange installation
[09:14] <gordonjcp> k7jkz: root passwords are obsolete, we've had sudo for 20 years
[09:14] <Ben64> Guest71170: it says bodhi, that doesn't happen on ubuntu
[09:14] <bekks> Guest71170: your paste clearly states you are using bodhi.
[09:15] <OerHeks> bodhi has its own issues
[09:15] <elladeea> bekks,  adobe photoshop
[09:15] <Guest71170> My installation is Ubuntu 13.10, the lsb_release shows what I just pasted earlier and when doing a sudo do-release-upgrade it has upgrading someof it to Quantal but not all
[09:15] <Guest71170> If I were using Bodhi I would go there for help and not here right?
[09:15] <bekks> Guest71170: So you are using Bodhi linux, not Ubuntu.
[09:15] <Swarnava> i have dell laptop which was came preinstalled with ubuntu, i installed windows 8 and now i cant boot to my ubuntu anymore
[09:15] <Swarnava> can anyone help me out?
[09:16] <Ben64> !fixgrub | Swarnava
[09:16] <Guest71170> No i am using Ubuntu i've made that clear its a STRANGE installation are we paying attention?
[09:16] <bekks> !dualboot | Swarnava
[09:16] <Guest71170> thats why I am here requesting assistance
[09:16] <Ben64> Guest71170: no matter how many times you say it, it does not make it true
[09:16] <Guest71170> oh brother
[09:16] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:16] <cristian_c> How can I use dbus-monitor to check if devices are announced?
[09:17] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:17] <Ben64> Guest71170: ok then, pastebin the following... "cat /etc/issue" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" "uname -a"
[09:17] <vqoley> hello
[09:17] <Guest71170> The purpose of coming to a room like this is to seek advice and help.  There are many rooms like this If I were using Bodhi I would go to a Bodhi room its not difficult to do that.  HOwever I am NOT USING BODHI I am using UBUNTU 13.10
[09:17] <k7jkz> okay i'm reading and getting up-to-date
[09:17] <Guest71170> thanks Ben64
[09:17] <Guest71170> just a mo
[09:17] <vqoley> i have stuck for 2 week about installation openvpn on ubuntu openvz
[09:18] <Guest71170> cat /etc/issue gives me this : Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[09:18] <Ben64> Guest71170: use a pastebin, put em all together
[09:19] <vqoley> so, anyone have tutorial how to install openvpn on ubuntu openvz with user pass from mysql?
[09:19] <Guest71170> what is pastebin?
[09:19] <bekks> !pastebin | Guest71170
[09:19] <bryon> http://www.pastebin.com
[09:20] <vqoley> ?
[09:20] <Guest71170> im not installing anything else untill i've resolved this first sorry.  I'll just do it the hard way for now
[09:20] <Ben64> install? its a website
[09:20] <bryon> it's a web site, mate
[09:20] <cristian_c> loll
[09:21] <Guest71170> I dont trust u sorry
[09:21] <cristian_c> lol
[09:21] <Stoneer> hello to all. I connect for the first time but I have not yet learned how to use this tool. I'm listening to now. thanks
[09:21] <Ben64> well don't paste it here, you'll get banned
[09:21] <vqoley> ?
[09:23] <Guest71170> anyway from that last output it shows what I am using
[09:24] <cristian_c> Guest71170, if you want get hel, you've to use a paste service for your output
[09:24] <cristian_c> *help
[09:24] <Guest71170> oh brother
[09:24] <Guest71170> let me see
[09:27] <Guest71170> So how do I give you the output of this Pastebin thing?
[09:28] <bekks> Guest71170: Give us the URL.-.
[09:28] <Guest71170> ok
[09:28] <Guest71170> http://pastebin.com/v24z1kDR
[09:28] <Guest71170> that ok?
[09:29] <bryon> so what was your question, Guest71170 ?
[09:29] <Ben64> thats like... half of what i asked for, and it still says bodhi there....
[09:29] <Guest71170> it seems some where when I was upgrading or installing some mess happened
[09:30] <Guest71170> no it says both if u LOOK
[09:30] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:31] <bekks> Guest71170: Pastebin the entire output of "sudo apt-get update" please.
[09:31] <repozitor> when i add new user by
[09:31] <repozitor> "sudo adduser --home /home/SBUASM92B/user1/ --shell /bin/bash SBUASM92B"
[09:31] <repozitor> it tell to me
[09:31] <repozitor> Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured...
[09:31] <Guest71170> just a sec forgot to add one of the outputs
[09:31] <repozitor> how to fix it?
[09:31] <Ben64> repozitor: you can't have SBUASM92B as a username
[09:32] <repozitor> is this right?
[09:32] <repozitor>  /home/SBUASM92B$ sudo adduser --home /home/SBUASM92B/user1/ --shell /bin/bash user1 SBUASM92B
[09:33] <bekks> repozitor: No.
[09:33] <Ben64> what are you trying to do?
[09:33] <repozitor> my desire username is user1, and it group is SBUASM92B
[09:33] <bekks> repozitor: omit the SBUASM92B at the end.
[09:33] <Guest71170> here you go
[09:33] <Guest71170> http://pastebin.com/DTJfcYxt
[09:34] <repozitor> bekks, look carefully, there are SBUASM92B at the end of command
[09:34] <Ben64> repozitor: get rid of the uppercase letters in usernames and groups too
[09:34] <bekks> Guest71170: Thats not the entire output of "sudo apt-get update".
[09:34] <bekks> repozitor: And thats wrong.
[09:34] <Guest71170> no i'm doing that now
[09:34] <bekks> repozitor: Remove that from the end of the line.
[09:34] <repozitor> Ben64, you say that we can't have groups with uppercase?
[09:34] <bekks> repozitor: correct.
[09:34] <repozitor> hhhm, ok, but i can't assign a group name after adduser :D
[09:35] <repozitor> how to add a user into a group?
[09:35] <bryon> repozitor: use --group
[09:35] <q0> Hallo. My ubuntu is connected via wlan0 and I'm trying to route with eth0 to another device, how can I debug/troubleshoot what I'm doing wrong
[09:35] <bryon> when you add the user
[09:35] <repozitor> bryon, in adduser?
[09:35] <bekks> repozitor: use -g
[09:35] <bryon> or -g
[09:35] <bekks> repozitor: In adduser, yes.
[09:35] <repozitor> -g or —group?
[09:35] <bryon> sudo adduser --home /home/SBUASM92B/user1/ --shell /bin/bash --group groupname
[09:35] <Guest71170> and here u go sudo apt-get-update job
[09:35] <repozitor> ok
[09:35] <Guest71170> http://pastebin.com/ZGpcRxfW
[09:35] <bekks> repozitor: -g or --group
[09:35] <bryon> oops, and then the username
[09:36] <bryon> you can also add a user to a group AFTER it has been created
[09:36] <repozitor> bekks, user should feed after a group name or befor it?
[09:36] <Guest71170> its a real mess
[09:36] <OerHeks> Guest71170, bad idea to mix quantal & saucy repositorys
[09:36] <Ben64> Guest71170: so what is it you want to do?
[09:36] <repozitor> bryon, i know it will possible, but i don't know how to do it
[09:36] <bekks> Guest71170: That box is totally messed up. It tells it is a hybrid ubuntu/bodhi, and it incorporates repos from three different ubuntus. Reinstall it.
[09:36] <bryon> repozitor: usermod -g groupname username
[09:36] <Guest71170> I did sudo do-release-upgrade and that happened all on its own
[09:36] <Ben64> eh, bekks is absolutely correct
[09:37] <Guest71170> yes thats why i am here lol
[09:37] <Guest71170> trying to figure out what happened
[09:37] <bekks> repozitor: the order doesnt matter, as long as the username is at the very end.
[09:37] <bekks> Guest71170: I just told you :) Someone mixed it all up - and now its all messed up.
[09:37] <Guest71170> Is there someway to downgrade safely or clear out unwanted packages etc etc etc?
[09:37] <q0> I want an answer from you right now
[09:37] <bekks> Guest71170: Reinstall. There is no safe way to downgrade.
[09:37] <Guest71170> I dont believe that to be true
[09:38] <OerHeks> Guest71170, there is no way you can upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 by do-release-upgrade, you must have done something else
[09:38] <cristian_c> lol
[09:38] <Guest71170> there is a way
[09:38] <bekks> !attitude | q0
[09:38] <bryon> i didn't even see a question from q0
[09:38] <Ben64> Guest71170: it is very true, and you have some weird bodhi/ubuntu hybrid anyway, so you need to install fresh with whichever distribution you want
[09:38] <bekks> Guest71170: If you dont believe it - find a way. Or just listen to what people tell you.
[09:38] <Guest71170> I have seen something about downgrading online but it isnt very clear, figured u experts might know alittle more
[09:38] <elladeea> Hi, how i create a USB bootable using a .iso in ubuntu?
[09:38] <Guest71170> thats too easy
[09:39] <bryon> Guest71170: the experts are telling you that it is better to reinstall than attempt a downgrade
[09:39] <Guest71170> and fresh installation isnt an option
[09:39] <bekks> Guest71170: Then find you own way if you dont like the answers you get from "the experts".
[09:39] <bekks> Guest71170: fresh install is the only option.
[09:39] <gordonjcp> q0: thing is, I *could* answer that question but that whole "I want an answer right now" disqualifies you
[09:39] <Guest71170> the experts arent very expert from the looks of it
[09:39] <Guest71170> so thanks anyway
[09:39] <Ben64> Guest71170: then feel free to leave
[09:39] <Guest71170> ciao
[09:39] <q0> gordonjcp, you didn't anyway so who cares
[09:39] <cristian_c> lol
[09:39] <OerHeks> Guest71170, there is no way  to downgrade, backup your data, and reinstall
[09:39] <gordonjcp> !attitude | q0
[09:39] <Guest71170> yes there is OerHeks
[09:39] <bekks> Guest71170: Bye. Hope do dont read you anymore then.
[09:40] <bekks> *to
[09:40] <Guest71170> would u like the web page?
[09:40] <gordonjcp> Guest71170: have at it and good luck
[09:40] <Ben64> Guest71170: then follow the webpage, just don't come back here when its more broken
[09:40] <Guest71170> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/how-to-downgrade-proposed-repository.html
[09:40] <Guest71170> there u go
[09:40] <gordonjcp> Guest71170: you might as well attempt to downgrade.  You *can't* downgrade successfully, but it might work
[09:40] <Ben64> we still don't care
[09:41] <Guest71170> So you obviously dont know what you are talking about : )
[09:41] <Guest71170> ciao
[09:41] <gordonjcp> Guest71170: doing what it says on that page will break your system
[09:41] <q0> I know you're not gonna help me next time, I'll register a new account
[09:41] <q0> or just check the manual and help me already
[09:42] <bekks> q0: Rethink your attitude instead registering a new account.
[09:42] <q0> I did and I think I might have to apologise
[09:42] <bryon> q0: or you could check the manual and help yourself
[09:42] <OerHeks> q0, maybe repeating your issue can solve this argument
[09:42] <q0> Hallo. My ubuntu is connected via wlan0 and I'm trying to route with eth0 to another device, how can I debug/troubleshoot what I'm doing wrong
[09:42]  * bryon didn't even see an initial question from q0 
[09:42] <bryon> ah there it is
[09:42] <OerHeks> !ics
[09:44] <cristian_c> Another question:
[09:44] <cristian_c> I'm using Opera 12.16
[09:45] <cristian_c> I've installed mozplugger to see pdf documents embedded in the browser
[09:45] <cristian_c> but I can't use keyboard with mozplugger
[09:45] <cristian_c> same problem with chromium
[09:47] <cristian_c> I've changed a line in /etc/mozpluggerrc.d/62-documents.conf
[09:48] <cristian_c> from: repeat noisy swallow(evince) fill needs_xembed: evince "$file"
[09:48] <cristian_c> to:
[09:48] <cristian_c> repeat noisy swallow(evince) fill: evince "$file"
[09:49] <cristian_c> but If I open /etc/mozpluggerrc, I can see repeat noisy swallow(evince) fill needs_xembed: evince "$file" again
[09:50] <recep> q
[09:50] <cristian_c> How can I tell to mozplugger to apply changes also in /etc/mozpluggerrc?
[09:50] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:57] <artium> Hey, everyone.. anyone know how to install wine on ubuntu 12.04 64bit ? im trying for 2 days and it wont install.. :(
[09:57] <CavemanZipper> What kinda problems are you having? :P
[09:58] <onto> Hi! I am having some issues with sound under ubuntu. I get the following error messages: http://pastebin.ca/2611918 and no sound
[09:58] <onto> AFAIK, the issue came up after an apt-get autoremove and a reboot.
[09:59] <artium888> i cant send here
[09:59] <artium888> blah.. now it works..
[09:59] <artium888> CavemanZipper: idk.. it needs alot of dependencies and stuff but they wont install either
[10:01] <artium888> CavemanZipper: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gWjeVKBH
[10:04] <artium888> Does anyone know how can i fix it ? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gWjeVKBH
[10:10] <Davidov> hi to all
[10:10] <artium888> Does anyone know how can you fix the bug on ubuntu 12.04 64bit ? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gWjeVKBH
[10:10] <Davidov> I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, but starting the process the screen start ti blink in red green blue colors
[10:11] <Davidov> how to go on ?
[10:11] <aurete> hii.... every time i play the amarok music player i get a message "file protocol died unexpectedly"..what does that mean??
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> artium888: maybe clear apt-get cache and apt-get update?
[10:12] <artium888> lotuspsychje: did everything..
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> artium888: purge wine and reinstall?
[10:13] <artium888> i dont have it ..
[10:13] <artium888> lotuspsychje: nothing to purge
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> artium888: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223237/unable-to-correct-problems-you-have-held-broken-packages
[10:14] <artium888> lotuspsychje: im downgrading now to solve it
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> aurete: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518471
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> Davidov: maybe try nomodeset?
[10:18] <Davidov> lotuspsychje--> I'll try TnX
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Davidov
[10:19] <aurete> lotuspsychje: thanks
[10:19] <Davidov> TnX to all ... I'm going to re-boot
[10:19] <artium888> lotuspsychje: bleh.. nothing works!
[10:20] <artium888> lotuspsychje: thats sucks..
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> artium888: how about install synaptic, to see what packages are on hold
[10:20] <artium888> lotuspsychje: i did the "dpkg --get-selections | grep hold" command, theres nothing on hold
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> artium888: try installing wine from synaptic, see what it does
[10:21] <artium888> lotuspsychje: alright
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> artium888: you sure you tryed a sudo apt-get update right?
[10:22] <artium888> lotuspsychje: its a replacement for ubuntu software center ?
[10:22] <artium888> lotuspsychje: yeah im 100% sure
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> !info synaptic | artium888
[10:22] <artium888> lol nice :P
[10:23] <artium888> !info apt-get
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> !apt-get | artium888
[10:24] <bekks> artium888: apt-get is installed by default.
[10:24] <elladeea> Hi, i try to create a boot usb ( with startup disk creator ) when i select the iso... ( i select the iso but not apper in table ... ) and not work to marke usb..
[10:24] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys when I am checking if my swap is working with swapon -s
[10:24] <artium888> bekks: yeah i know i just wanted to test the !info thing
[10:24] <Psil0Cybin> I get this, is this normal? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854335/
[10:24] <Psil0Cybin> how can I make sure that my linux swap is working properly?
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> it keeps saying Used 0
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> no matter what.
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> !swap | Psil0Cybin
[10:25] <artium888> lotuspsychje: alright so, synaptic wants to remove alot of packages in order to install wine. is it ok ?
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> lotuspsychje: so does ito nly get used, when my system is full? or does it constantly put files to swap?
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> to make the system faster because my system load increases
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> but my swap is still at 0%
[10:25] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It is shown, it works. It is not in use currently.
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> artium888: if you dont see packages you really dont need, its good to go..
[10:26] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: but it will be used when it needs to be used correct? or is something not configured properly.
[10:26] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: swap will never increase system performance. It will slow down things.
[10:26] <Psil0Cybin> what does priority -1 mean?
[10:26] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It will slow down things, but allow you to use more memory than you have physically installed. thats what swap is for,
[10:26] <artium888> lotuspsychje: i dont get it .. synaptic wants to uninstall filezilla..
[10:26] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: -1 means -1.
[10:27] <artium888> lotuspsychje: could you help me over teamviewer ? please.
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> artium888: sorry i dont remote, i would try what synaptic asks
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> artium888: you can install filezilla manually later right
[10:28] <Psil0Cybin> so  bekks is everything running okay? I am assuming swap will be used when it needs too, I am just trying to double check that everything is working properly in my server :D so I will not have to go back later type of thing to fix these issues
[10:28] <artium888> lotuspsychje: but theres like 1000 packages that synaptic wants to remove
[10:28] <artium888> lotuspsychje: is it normal ?
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> artium888: hum
[10:28] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Pastebin free -m please.
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> artium888: you only trying to install wine?
[10:29] <artium888> lotuspsychje: yup
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> artium888: not sure thats normal
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> artium888: what else does it want to uninstall?
[10:30] <artium888> lotuspsychje: its a list of like 80 packages
[10:30] <artium888> lotuspsychje: libreoffice and stuff
[10:30] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: swapon -m?
[10:30] <artium888> and the music player
[10:30] <artium888> alot of things
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> artium888: did you ignored updates for a long time?
[10:30] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: No. I said: free -m
[10:30] <Psil0Cybin> woops silly me one second
[10:31] <artium888> lotuspsychje: nope, its a fresh installation of ubuntu.. and its up-to-date
[10:31] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854354/
[10:31] <elladeea> Hi, unetbootin not have option for windows distribution why!?
[10:31] <bekks> elladeea: Because you cant create live windows media.
[10:32] <elladeea> i want to create a boot windows usb
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> artium888: not sure mate, i would try what synaptic asks, see what it does
[10:32] <bekks> elladeea: you cant.
[10:32] <elladeea> serious?
[10:32] <elladeea> why
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> artium888: worst case scenario is a reinstall :p
[10:32] <bekks> elladeea: Ask Microsoft why they do not support that.
[10:32] <elladeea> huh
[10:32] <artium888> lotuspsychje: lol, im kinda new to ubuntu.. that would take me alot of time to fix
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> elladeea: you can use winusb from ubuntu to burn a win7 to usbstick
[10:33] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: looking at what it outputted, it looks like it is working just not being used as of yet...
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> elladeea: but we really recommend you to stay on ubuntu right :p
[10:34] <Psil0Cybin> because who needs windows 7+ anyway.
[10:34] <elladeea> but not work a lot of programs
[10:34] <elladeea> adobe photoshop
[10:34] <elladeea> corel
[10:34] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Then show us the output.
[10:34] <elladeea> etc
[10:34] <artium888> lotuspsychje: oh now that i marked wine.14 for installation it only wants to remove : hhvm, libpurple, libsasl2, telepathy-haze, ubuntu-desktop.. so its good ?
[10:34] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854354/
[10:34] <bekks> elladeea: Use a virtual machine.
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> artium888: hmm ubuntu-desktop remove is bad idea
[10:35] <Guest47910> Can anyone tell me how to find a kernel number?
[10:35] <Psil0Cybin> uname -r
[10:35] <artium888> lotuspsychje: lol..
[10:35] <artium888> lotuspsychje: i think so
[10:35] <Psil0Cybin> Guest47910: uname -r
[10:35] <Guest47910> sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[10:35] <Guest47910> as in that command
[10:35] <bekks> Guest47910: "uname -r".
[10:35] <elladeea> yes
[10:36] <Guest47910> is it the version of ubuntu im running
[10:36] <Psil0Cybin> that is the kernel you are running Guest47910
[10:36] <artium888> lotuspsychje: i dont want to go back to windows7 ~_~  i kinda liked ubuntu but i need notepad++ for my programming
[10:36] <bekks> Guest47910: No. It is the kernel version you are running.
[10:36] <Psil0Cybin> The version you are running is either 12.04 LTS or 13.04 etc
[10:36] <bekks> Guest47910: lsb_release -a will tell yo the Ubuntu version.
[10:36] <artium888> lotuspsychje: why theres no notepad++ build for linux.. eh...
[10:37] <Guest47910> k thanks
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> artium888: what ubuntu version you have now?
[10:37] <artium888> lotuspsychje: 12.04 64bit
[10:38] <Psil0Cybin> bekks here is the output and pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854354/ sorry you never got back to me I dont want to keep spamming the channel :P
[10:38] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: it looks like it is working
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> artium888: well not sure whats happening to your system, but ubuntu-desktop remove aint good
[10:38] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: you have 7.6GB free RAM - actually that 512M swapfile is a joke :)
[10:38] <artium888> lotuspsychje: should i upgrade to 13.x version ?
[10:38] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Use a swapfile like 8GB, not like 512M.
[10:39] <Psil0Cybin> bah bekks it is not really my server, my boss's do you think it will make a difference / is it worth to go back and remove that swap and make a new one?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> artium888: no i would reinstall 12.04 lts maybe
[10:39] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: is that tiny tiny swap at least working correctly?
[10:39] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It will make a big difference. 512M swap for 8GB RAM is pointless.
[10:40] <Psil0Cybin> just as a reference
[10:40] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Yes, it is working correct.
[10:40] <Guest47910> how much of this is the kernel version?  3.11.0-15-generic
[10:40] <Psil0Cybin> bekks how can I go about removing that swap and creating a new 8 GB one without damaging anything? Not going to lie someone helped me out on here, but I guess we never distinguied how mnuch ram I had...even though we did check the memory.
[10:40] <bekks> Guest47910: "3.11.0-15-generic".
[10:41] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: How did you create it? Remove it, and do it again, with an 8GB file, or even better with a 8GB swap volume.
[10:41] <Guest47910> so i should put all of it into sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet ???
[10:41] <bekks> Guest47910: ls -lha . to see the "<kernel version>".
[10:41] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: I followed this guide actually step by step http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[10:42] <Psil0Cybin> what would be the correct way to remove that swap?
[10:42] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: OMG, a cyberciti guide. I wont read it.
[10:42] <Guest47910> Like this???   sudo cp ./3.11.0-15-generic/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[10:42] <bekks> Guest47910: ls -lha . to see the "<kernel version>".
[10:42] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: so what would be a proper guide of removing the swap I currenctly have and adding the 8GB one you recommended?
[10:43] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: swapoff /yourswapfilename; edit the fstab, remove the file.
[10:44] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Then just create a plain, empty file (most likely using dd), mkswap, swapon /yournewfilename, free -m, edit fstab.
[10:44] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: fine final question; if i leave things like they are, the only thing that will hapepn is eventually I would restart the computer more often than it should be / could be with a properly spaced swap? I just want to understand exactly what a swap does...I know you explained it
[10:45] <prashanth> can somebody help me how to install atheros wireless drivers
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> !ath
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !atheros
[10:46] <prashanth> yesatheros
[10:46] <prashanth> ihave purchased new aer aspire e1-570 and both lan and wireless are not detected
[10:47] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: for this line, what would I enter for 8gbs "# dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile1 bs=1024 count=524288"
[10:47] <Guest47910> Thanks so much have been trying to di this for days :) will reboot and try it out
[10:48] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=8192
[10:48] <Psil0Cybin> ty
[10:49] <prashanth> no i tried even updating ubuntu using windows
[10:49] <bekks> prashanth: Which will never work.
[10:49] <Psil0Cybin> sorry one last other question bekks when you said edit the fstab, remove the file...what file did you mean what directory is it in? sorry
[10:49] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: /etc/fstab
[10:49] <prashanth> how to update the drivers.
[10:49] <Psil0Cybin> okay the swap is there, or remove the string from that file?
[10:50] <prashanth> @bekks can you help me how to update the wlan drivers
[10:50] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: sorry I know I remove the string from /etc/fstab, but you said remove the file..which file do I remove completely? the swap?
[10:52] <deepcore> Hi guys, I've got weird problem. After ssh-add I receive "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent." and after adding ssh keys manualy I receive "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." Thought it was about perm. but they're ok. Anyone know what might got fucked-up? :)
[10:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Of course the swapfile.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: where is that swapfile located
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> what would be the command to remove it?
[10:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Where you put it.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> of=/swapfile1
[10:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: "rm" removes a file.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> rm /swapfile1 ?
[10:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: ls -lha /
[10:54] <solo> hi..gus.i am a newer
[10:54] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Try to understand what you are doing instead of blindly following commands from whatever guides :)
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854435/
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: sorry I am trying :) I just like to double double and double check
[10:54] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: which costs time, which costs time, which costs time.
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> you are right sorry :( Just help teach me where this swap is located and ill turn off my pester mode aha :P
[10:55] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Look at your paste.
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> so rm /swapfile1
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[10:56] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: yes.
[10:58] <artium888> bekks: could you help me with the wine problem ?
[10:58] <bekks> artium888: I never used wine, sorry. In need of Windows, I am using a virtual machine.
[10:59] <artium888> bekks: thats a bad idea when you need a program like notepad++
[10:59] <Psil0Cybin> Thank you bekks !!! great success.
[10:59] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854457/
[10:59] <artium888> bekks: because you need to work on local files
[10:59] <bekks> artium888: I dont need notepad++ in Linux - in linux, there are lot more capable editors.
[10:59] <bekks> artium888: I am using vi.
[11:00] <artium888> bekks: for programming ?
[11:00] <Psil0Cybin> artium888: hes clearly 1337
[11:00] <dhjw> gedit ftw
[11:00] <bekks> artium888: sure.
[11:00] <bekks> artium888: And eclipse for bigger projects.
[11:00] <dhjw> bluefish is ok but gedit is fine for me
[11:01] <artium888> bekks: i tried sublime.. but they all suck .. i guess im just used to notepad++
[11:02] <artium888> fuck wine....
[11:03] <bekks> artium888: Use a sane editor, not some crap requiring wine.
[11:03] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: is right, why the hell would you use linux just to use wine...
[11:03] <bekks> artium888: and watch your language please.
[11:03] <knightshade> hi
[11:04] <artium888> bekks: yeah but theres so many features in notepad++ that i dont have in linux editors.. like mark brackets and find in files and stuff
[11:04] <artium888> bekks: sorry
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> artium888: have you tried Bluefish or what not for coding?
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> if you like notepad++
[11:05] <artium888> Psil0Cybin: yeah.. i liked sublime the most but its sucks too
[11:05] <bekks> artium888: All those features are available in linux editors too.
[11:06] <Psil0Cybin> artium888: honestly the only thing that disapointed me about linux editors was nothing compared to dreamweaver, but  I realized now that Dreamweaver is just noob tools.
[11:06] <artium888> Psil0Cybin: lol
[11:06] <Psil0Cybin> i am fine with Kompozer or Bluefish
[11:06] <Psil0Cybin> if really need be lmao :P
[11:06] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It a gods blessing that there is nothing like dreamweaver in linux.
[11:06] <marcus_> So install WINE and use Notepad
[11:06] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: belive it or not everyone that I know who codes on a PC uses Dreamweaver, juts out of share comfort.
[11:07] <Psil0Cybin> like for PHP
[11:07] <Psil0Cybin> CSS
[11:07] <artium888> marcus_: lmao.. just tell me how to fix that bug..
[11:07] <bekks> Or use gedit which supports all the features mentioned.
[11:07] <Psil0Cybin> web design :S
[11:07] <artium888> Psil0Cybin: visualstudio is the best IDE i've ever used
[11:07] <marcus_> WINE works great on my laptop running Ubuntu
[11:07] <bekks> artium888: LOL
[11:08] <artium888> bekks: yeah yeah.. i hate m$ too but VS is just too comfort
[11:08] <artium888> bekks: its a "dor and TAB" Programming
[11:08] <artium888> bekks: dot*
[11:08] <marcus_> I'd take up being gay b4 I'd go back to Winblows
[11:09] <artium888> marcus_: lol
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> artium888: I haaate ms man with a passion, i have been using strictly linux for a year now :)
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> I saw windows 8, and actually got naucious
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> that was the day i called it quits
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> i wrote a letter to bill gates too.
[11:10] <artium888> Psil0Cybin: yeah win8 is the worst..
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> said I used windows since 3.2 and that i just called it quits.
[11:11] <Devian> WIn8 is not the worst
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> Oh
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> it is
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> what the hell
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> tiles man?!
[11:11] <bekks> Offtopic is  the worst.
[11:11] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> TILES?!
[11:11] <marcus_> the best way to write a letter to Bill Gates is to stop buying machines with his OS
[11:11] <Devian> dudes
[11:11] <naper_> exit
[11:11] <Devian> you are confusing the core
[11:11] <Devian> with the gui
[11:11] <bekks> Please stop that offtopic chat.
[11:11] <benishor> Hello guys, I'm having a problem with apt-get which is very slow at reading package list. I've straced the process and I see a relative slow reading from the 6th file description
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> oh woops i thought i was in #offtopic Sorry! bekks!!
[11:11] <Devian> benishor, cpu issue
[11:12] <benishor> Devian: which reads from /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[11:12] <benishor> Devian: why would it be a cpu issue? it hasn't been so far
[11:12] <benishor> the cpu is pretty powerful for reading 30M text files, it's an i3
[11:13] <Devian> benishor interesting
[11:13] <Devian> uhm
[11:13] <benishor> Devian: is there any way to *reset* apt cache or lists or something?
[11:13] <Devian> apt-get clean ?
[11:13] <benishor> apaprently apt-get reads in chunks of 30k and takes quite a lot between reads
[11:13] <bekks> benishor: Define "relatively slow reading" as can be determined by strace. strace doesnt show you any speeds.
[11:14] <Devian> benishor are you accessing your terminal remotely?
[11:14] <benishor> bekks: apt-get update takes about 7 minutes to complete reading package lists
[11:14] <benishor> Devian: no, I'm on the host
[11:14] <Devian> try apt-get clean
[11:14] <benishor> did
[11:14] <bekks> benishor: Then take alook why reading that file is so slow. Investiagte the filesystem, etc.
[11:14] <benishor> no effect
[11:14] <marcus_> Ubuntu Updater takes about 10 seconds
[11:14] <benishor> bekks: and how would I do that?
[11:15] <bekks> benishor: By copying the file to another location and measureing the time. By runnings fsck in the filesystem, etc.
[11:17] <benishor> time cp /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.arlug.ro_pub_ubuntu_ubuntu_dists_saucy_universe_binary-i386_Packages output
[11:17] <benishor> real	0m23.989s
[11:17] <benishor> user	0m0.000s
[11:17] <benishor> sys	0m0.272s
[11:17] <benishor> a bit too much though
[11:17] <bekks> benishor: How big is that file?
[11:18] <benishor> bekks: 30M
[11:18] <marcus_> or you could just run Ubuntu Software Center
[11:18] <bekks> benishor: then run a full fsck.
[11:18] <bekks> marcus_: Which needs to read the same file.
[11:18] <marcus_> yeah..takes 10 seconds to update the lists on my laptop
[11:18] <benishor> bekks: well, the hdd is mounted, how would I do that?
[11:21] <bekks> benishor: Unmount it, then run fsck -f
[11:21] <bekks> marcus_: the speed of operations on your system is out of question - and irrelevant for the issue of benishor.
[11:23] <benishor> bekks: I think I'll use a live cd and attempt to fsck the hdd. thank you for your help
[11:23] <benishor> bekks: what do you suspect to be the culprit?
[11:24] <marcus_> well..I'm just an ex-Windows monkey..I don't have time to type 300 characters in terminal when I can do the same thing clicking one icon
[11:24] <bekks> benishor: A corrupteed filesystem, a heavily fragmented file - that has to be checked.
[11:25] <MindAdrift> Newbie coming through.
[11:26] <benishor> bekks: thanks for your input
[11:33] <linXea> I need help connecting to my university VPN (openconnect / anyconnect). The connection is established and IP is assigned to interface vpn0. The issue is that my datatraffic is NOT routed over vpn0 interface but instead still on wlan0 with my home IP.  What do I need to do? I assume I need to set another gateway (if up choose vpn0 over wlan0).. I have no idea how to do that. I am using network-manager-gnome with plugin for openconnect. Same problem wit
[11:33] <linXea> h ciscos proprietary Anyconnect mobility secure client.  http://pastie.org/8688415 <-- all the info I could think of is in this pastie
[11:37] <SeaCat> Please help me . I Disabled all automatic updates in Ubuntu 12.04, but this ftp.heanet.ie keeps downloading things to my pc. I'm unable to do anything it uses alot of my bandwidth. i tried to block it in firewall with no luck :(
[11:42] <bekks> SeaCat: Kill the download process.
[11:43] <xikofreak> somebody know why ubuntu application are slower than win 7 to start?
[11:44] <bekks> xikofreak: they are different applications - uncomparable.
[11:44] <Naveen> Any 1 knew how to dual boot ubuntu on UEFI boot
[11:44] <SeaCat> bekks how do i do that ? I have to disconnect everytime ftp.heanet.ie starts and its very annoying
[11:44] <bekks> !dualboot | Naveen
[11:44] <xikofreak> but i mean, when i open for example... chronium take a lot of times, something 5-10 sec to start
[11:44] <xikofreak> my pc its a amd 2,6 X2, and 4 gb of ram
[11:44] <bekks> SeaCat: lsof shows you which process is downloading.
[11:45] <bekks> xikofreak: the X2 is about 7 years old.
[11:45] <bekks> Or 10y.
[11:45] <_nedr> hello.. i added a private key (pem file ) using ssh-add.. now i want to remove it.. how to do it
[11:45] <xikofreak> i know.. but.. im using lubuntu with a lightweight desktop, there some way to speed up?
[11:45] <Naveen> @ubottu: It doesn't work on UEFI grub is not installing on UEFI boot
[11:45] <SeaCat> bekks then how do i disable it
[11:46] <bekks> SeaCat: so which process is it...?
[11:47] <SeaCat> ftp.heanet.ie is not showing now, it usually starts every 30 minutes then never stops unless i disconnect the internet
[11:47] <bekks> SeaCat: Then find out in 30 minutes.
[11:48] <SeaCat> bekks how will i know the process
[11:48] <bekks> SeaCat: By looking at the output of lsof.
[11:49] <SeaCat> ok ty, i will check back when ftp.heanet.ie starts again
[11:58] <ud> Hii guys
[11:59] <ud> I am facing some problems while installing ubuntu on my new laptop
[11:59] <ud> can I get any help
[11:59] <ud> ?
[11:59] <bekks> Not without stating the problems :)
[11:59] <ud> :)
[11:59] <ud> sure
[11:59] <ud> I have got a new lenovo G505
[11:59] <ud> with AMD A8
[12:00] <ud> and a readon graphics
[12:00] <phil-ns> uau
[12:00] <phil-ns> yay
[12:00] <bekks> ud: Keep the problem on one sentence please - and enter is not a punctuation sign.
[12:00] <ud> 8750 series
[12:00] <phil-ns> period is, enter no.
[12:00] <bekks> ud: Use full sentences, do not press enter every two words.
[12:02] <ud> My problem is after success full installation when I reboot the system it gets stuck with purple colour screen. What should I do to go beyond this?
[12:02] <phil-ns> ud: you should either get a live cd, or a live usb, plug it in, come back after the show is over.
[12:02] <bekks> !nomodeset | ud
[12:02] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[12:02] <bekks> phil-ns: And then - what does he do with the livecd to solve his problem?
[12:03] <phil-ns> ud: press ctl alt F2
[12:03] <phil-ns> then we do the lightdm blah blah blah, to set the graphical manager.
[12:03] <bekks> phil-ns: "blah blah" reveals you have no clue, dont you?
[12:04] <ud> yes right I downloaded 13.10 live CD and then copying it to pen drive I installed ubuntu. keeping the download updates option selected.
[12:04] <phil-ns> only that I went through it last week due to the inept kernel upgrade
[12:06] <lubuntuer> holla, I have a little problem: I would like to apply this xrandr configuration every time the pc starts up (xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --pos 248x900 --rotate normal --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal). It works when I execute it from the terminal and I have tried to add it to /etc/rc.local, but it doesn't work.
[12:06] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[12:06] <nhhhnman> Hi all, I have created rules in iptables to log and edited the rsyslog.conf file to output any message which contains "iptables" to a different log file. It seems that it is logging to both places, the default messages files and the new iptables.log files i have. How can I log to just the new one? This is the content of the rsyslog file::msg, contains, "iptables"      -/var/log/iptables.log & ~
[12:07] <ud> phil-ns: what you mean by  lightdm blah blah blah? any pointer. what graphic manager should I set. I am a total noob with this
[12:07] <bekks> ud: Dont listen to him.
[12:07] <k1l> ud: try nomodeset as kernel boot parameter
[12:07] <phil-ns> yeah ud, don't listen to me
[12:07] <bekks> ud: Use the nomodeset option as suggested.
[12:08] <phil-ns> bekks answers lots of questions here, and he is always right on the mark.
[12:08] <ud> bekks: where should I set this option? with ctrl+alt+F2?
[12:08] <k1l> !behelpful | phil-ns
[12:09] <k1l> ud:  in grub
[12:09] <phil-ns> yeah, theres my queue to leave since humour is not allowed, ciao
[12:09] <bekks> !nomodeset | ud
[12:10] <LifeThailand> Hi ! I need advice. Ubuntu 12 04 LTS.
[12:10] <LifeThailand> How to make the drop-down wifi list shows the level of network encryption? In windows 7 when I am getting the cursor to any available network, I see information about it.
[12:11] <bekks> LifeThailand: In Ubuntu, you dont. You would have to code it into the sourcecode of the applet.
[12:11] <ud> other observation is when I boot to trial mode through live CD it works great and when I install it from inside trial mode and then reboot after successful installation it gives me black screen. so is it really a problem with graphics card?
[12:11] <LifeThailand> bekks Thanks
[12:12] <lubuntuer> holla, I have a little problem: I would like to apply this xrandr configuration every time the pc starts up (xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --pos 248x900 --rotate normal --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal). It works when I execute it from the terminal and I have tried to add it to /etc/rc.local, but it doesn't work.
[12:12] <bekks> ud: Please read the link ubottu gave you twice already.
[12:13] <bergelmir> i am running 12.10 and it seems like my graphics power has drastically degraded since yesterday evening
[12:14] <LifeThailand> Who know any info about Ubuntu 14 04? I need list of future changes :) I can't find what's new in 14 04 in google
[12:14] <k1l> !trusty | LifeThailand
[12:14] <bergelmir> maximizing/minimizing windows is stuttering like hell :(
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> ud  open this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[12:15] <bergelmir> while running "apt-get upgrade" i got an error regarding fglrx. is it possible that fglrx is broken and this causes the stuttering`
[12:16] <repozitor> by adduser i have created new normal users, but
[12:16] <repozitor> these users can see their home, how to prevent they from accessing to the other home?
[12:16] <bekks> bergelmir: Pastebin the full output please..
[12:16] <bekks> repozitor: By setting permissions on the home restricting access from other users.
[12:16] <bekks> repozitor: Most likely, 0700 on the home directory of the user.
[12:17] <repozitor> bekks, chmod username 0700 /directory?
[12:17] <bekks> repozitor: No.
[12:17] <bekks> repozitor: chmod [OPTION]... MODE[,MODE]... FILE...
[12:18] <repozitor> bekks, which part need to be specified with username?
[12:19] <bekks> repozitor: No part. chmod does not use the username, it sets permissions.
[12:19] <bekks> repozitor: You are mixing it up with chown.
[12:19] <bergelmir> bekks: http://pastebin.com/rFCgXsur
[12:19] <repozitor> running
[12:19] <repozitor> sudo chown -R user1:sbuasm92b /home/SBUASM92B/user1
[12:19] <repozitor> then
[12:19] <repozitor> chmod -R /home/SBUASM92B/user1
[12:20] <FloodBot1> repozitor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <repozitor> something like this?
[12:20] <LifeThailand> and... another question: i'll have speech with presentation. Before I not used a computer with Ubuntu there. Tell me, when i connect netbook to projector will not be any problems? The image is projected to the projector?
[12:20] <repozitor> sorry, dear bot :D
[12:20] <bekks> repozitor: No. Totally mixed up. Please read both the man pages for chmod and chown.
[12:20] <repozitor> ok
[12:20] <k1l> LifeThailand: depends on projector, videocard and videodriver. just test it before
[12:21] <LifeThailand> Thanks
[12:21] <bekks> repozitor: Or even better: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[12:21] <flattyre1> nvidia or radeon graphics adapter? wich is better supported by ubuntu?
[12:22] <bekks> flattyre1: From my experience, nvidia.
[12:23] <user2> :q
[12:23] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[12:25] <flattyre1> ok, thanks. are uefi specialists here?
[12:26] <bekks> flattyre1: Wwhat will happen if someone says "yes" now?
[12:26] <flattyre1> i will ask a question
[12:26] <bekks> flattyre1: Then ask now.
[12:29] <repozitor> bekks, mixed up, can i explain what i do and tell me what was wrong with me?
[12:29] <bekks> repozitor: you mixed up parameters for chmod and chown, and you mixed up what both programs will do.
[12:29] <repozitor> i set ownership home directory of users to username:groupname for every user
[12:29] <bekks> And you are doing it again.
[12:30] <repozitor> then i set chmod  to +u+x+w+r for all home subDirectories
[12:30] <bekks> repozitor: That looks wrong.
[12:30] <repozitor> wait
[12:30] <bekks> repozitor: No. Write less, read more. Now:
[12:31] <bekks> repozitor: chown user:groupofuser1 /home/user1; chmod 0750 /home/user1
[12:32] <bekks> repozitor: That will set ownership of /home/user1 to user1:groupofuser1 and grants read/execute permissions for the group of user1.
[12:32] <flattyre1> on a dualboot system win8/ubuntu12.4. i was able to start Ubuntu as workaround with a supergubDisk. Since win8 autoupdate, booting from cd does not work anymore. without changing the bios settings.
[12:32] <ud> ok, here I am again. I am not getting access to grub configuration by pressing shift key. when i press shift key screen show grub conf for a flash and then the usual purple screen.
[12:32] <ud> also ctrl alt F2 dosent work
[12:33] <SeaCat> bekks its back , but there is so much output in lsof
[12:33] <bekks> SeaCat: Then pastebin it, entirely
[12:35] <repozitor> bekks, hhhhmm, in this way users of group X can read any file of other group member,
[12:35] <repozitor> so i want to each user just access to it's private files, no group member
[12:35] <SeaCat> its slowing down everything pastbin .com is just loading
[12:35] <repozitor> make me no sense!
[12:36] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: then chmod 700 /home/user1                      you really should read the man pages as bekks already suggested
[12:36] <repozitor> ok :D
[12:37] <SeaCat> bekks i cant open any website
[12:37] <repozitor> just tell me my ownership setting is wrong or file permission?
[12:37] <repozitor> i think my ownership setting seems right
[12:37] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[12:39] <ud> ok looks like its working in oem mode installation
[12:39] <repozitor> bekks, got, it
[12:39] <repozitor> thanks you
[12:40] <SeaCat> bekks http://pastebin.com/aby4yzgR
[12:43] <SeaCat> Sorry i have to disconnect the internet its downloading way too much
[12:44] <bekks> SeaCat: lsof -i please
[12:46] <SeaCat-> bekks did you find anything ?
[12:47] <casual_boot> how does memmap= works in newer linux kernels? it does not take into account second memmap= range. 3.5.0-26 Ubuntu x86-64
[12:48] <casual_boot> does grup pass to kernel a second memmap= line?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot: what memmap= param are you giving exactly?
[12:51] <casual_boot> hi MonkeyDust My HD dies with 32-bit LTS 12.04 install, where 2 memmap= lines during boot worked. 2 memmap= ranges I used not to use 2 faulty memory ranges
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  and are those error messages?
[12:52] <SeaCalf_> Does anyone know what Unattended-Upgrades do ?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  i mean: where and when do they appear?
[12:54] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, ubuntu will look for/install updates & reboot if necessary
[12:54] <OerHeks> * without user interaction
[12:55] <casual_boot_> MonkeyDust: same as with 12.04 where it worked. Masking 2 12MB memory ranges. memmap=0x8000000\$0x10000000 and memmap=0x8000000\0x30000000
[12:55] <casual_boot_> 128MB
[12:55] <SeaCalf_> I mean when i edit and comment out sudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattented-upgrades . Will it disable the annoying background upgrades ?
[12:56] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot_: whats with the "\". they look invalid.
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot_  worked on a different machine with the same installation medium? if zo, it's hardware related, i guess
[12:56] <lawr> When I done dd if=/dev/sdc of=ubuntu.iso ; sync it made the iso file 1.9GB in size?
[12:56] <lawr> I'm on Debian
[12:56] <lawr> it hasn't written to /dev/sdc device either
[12:56] <casual_boot> MonkeyDust: no, on the same machine, with different HD, where was installed 12.04 LTS 32-bit
[12:56] <lawr> just bloated the iso image
[12:57] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, why not disable it in softwarecenter > edit > sources > updates ?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  is it 32bit hardware? if zo, you cannot install 64bit on it
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> if so*
[12:58] <casual_boot> And now on 64-bit and kernel 3.5.0-26, not working.. It is 64-bit hardware. And I can boot with only one memmap= line but not with 2 memmap lines in GRUB2
[12:59] <casual_boot> it is, MonkeyDust
[12:59] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks its already disabled there. But still iftop shows this domain ftp.heanet.ie downloading things and its alot of things
[12:59] <maxiaojun> can i change color depth without changing Xorg.conf?
[13:00] <casual_boot> hitsujiTMO: that was neede on 12.04 GRUB to work. And it is still accepted for first memmap=
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  and is it *supposed* to work with two such lines?
[13:00] <SeaCalf_> Every 30 minutes it starts to download a ton of stuff i never asked for
[13:00] <casual_boot> MonkeyDust: it used to work on 12.04, just fine...
[13:00] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, debian is not supported here, i thought you were asking about ubuntu
[13:00] <julle157> join #AnimeNSK
[13:01] <koell> !seen jono
[13:01] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks what have debian got to do with this ?
[13:01] <OerHeks> SD
[13:01] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, as that adress is a debian mirror, isn it?
[13:02] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks i dont know those things , i just want that mirror gone from iftop
[13:03] <MaazZ> yo
[13:03] <MaazZ> i want a hack program for xubuntu
[13:03] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[13:03] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, ubuntu does not use that server to download tons of whatever, ask in #debian howto solv that
[13:03] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks ok ty
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot: accoring to https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt    it's prob more like:  memmap=0x8000000$0x10000000 and memmap=0x8000000$0x30000000
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> !hack | maazz
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> !hacking | maazz
[13:05] <Munster> diverdude,wifi ? if so you need the internet to install some of the packages, ethernet just connects automatically
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> MaazZ: not something thats supported here
[13:05] <MaazZ> no worries
[13:05] <diverdude> Munster, sure...i am not choosing anything actively...i just click next
[13:05] <diverdude> Munster, but it hangs anyway
[13:06] <maxiaojun> can i change color depth without changing Xorg.conf?
[13:07] <Munster> diverdude, theubiquity installer is active , it needs the 'net
[13:07] <diverdude> Munster, ok, hwo to deactivate? How to prevent hanging?
[13:11] <Munster> diverdude, you can't, but this might help http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/install-update-ubuntu-internet-connection/
[13:12] <pseudo0815> Hello! I have a question. Could someone tell me briefly or give me keyword to find in google, why i getting a lot of message (e.g. Gtk-Warning: gtk_widget_size_allocate) if i start in terminal a gui application without e.g. "gksu -u <user>" command?!
[13:13] <TJ-> diverdude: Munster: I've seen that, it's annoying... despite unchecking "Install 3rd party drivers..." it actually tries to pull them in, and does hang (timing out) because it can't connect to the archives.
[13:14] <Munster> TJ-, ok thanks for the heads up
[13:14] <diverdude> TJ-, i even did uncheck that and also chose do not connect to internet
[13:14] <diverdude> and still it hangs
[13:14] <diverdude> im gonna try linux mint instead..maybe they have an installer that works :)
[13:15] <Munster> diverdude, doubt it
[13:15] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks #debian tells me: "tell them that ftp.heanet.ie is not a debian mirror, and then try asking for help again ?"
[13:15] <TJ-> diverdude: which Ubuntu version is that, I thought it'd been fixed
[13:15] <diverdude> TJ-, 1310 DE
[13:15] <diverdude> 64bit
[13:15] <Munster> whynot connect, diverdude?
[13:15] <Layke> Prepare for som e silly questions.. Does 14.04 come out in April?.. Also what will the difference be between 12.04 and 14.04? Like, when I have had 13.10, I don't notice any differences between 12.04 when using it?
[13:16] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, lolz, open http://ftp.heanet.ie/ and read again
[13:16] <diverdude> Munster, because it will not connect...it hangs nomatter what i choose
[13:16] <TJ-> diverdude: I'll make a note to revisit the bug-report and ensure the patch is in Trusty
[13:16] <themill> OerHeks: it's also a mirror for just about everything else (which is what the discussion was about)
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> OerHeks: ftp.heanet.ie mirrors ubuntu and many other distros
[13:17] <TJ-> Munster: If the PC needs additional hacking to bring up network drivers, the installer fails due to this, it isn't supposed to happen. The only installer that *requires* network is the mini.iso
[13:17] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks #debian keeps telling me to go ask #ubuntu , since i'm using it
[13:17] <Munster> diverdude, then check the image with md5sum, it might be corrupt
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> OerHeks: ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu/
[13:19] <TJ-> OerHeks: SeaCalf_ see http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/IE.txt
[13:19] <Munster> TJ-, yes the minimal is the way for him
[13:19] <SeaCalf_> I just want to disable ftp://ftp.heanet.ie so i can work in peace :(
[13:20] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Your PC is connecting to that server to check for and fetch Ubuntu updates, because the PC has determined it is closed/fastest Ubuntu archive mirror to you (network-wise)
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> SeaCalf_: did you tell the installer you were in Ireland instead of South Africa?
[13:21] <SeaCalf_> TJ- yes , but i want to manually check for updates , and all automatic updates are already disabled
[13:22] <Munster> diverdude, tj correction,  not the way
[13:22] <SeaCalf_> hitsujiTMO i chose South Africa at the installer
[13:22] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Which specific process is connecting to that site? "sudo netstat -tpa" will help you identify it
[13:24] <SeaCalf_> Tj- ftp.heanet.ie , comes up every 30 minutes or so , i had to disconnect internet earlier to stop it
[13:24] <SeaCalf_> Should i do "sudo netstat -tpa" when it pops up again
[13:24] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Try to capture the name/command-line of the process making the connection, then we can help
[13:25] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Yes, and also, once you have the process's ID, immediately do "ps -efly | grep $PID" to grab the command-line including any arguments
[13:26] <SeaCalf_> Tj- ok i will try that
[13:26] <SeaCalf_> looks confusing but i will try figuring it out to get the correct info when it comes back again
[13:27] <b1gw0rm> hello everyone
[13:28] <diverdude> Munster, hmm well...linux mint is able to connect to internet...but it also hangs at same place during install
[13:28] <diverdude> TJ-, ^
[13:29] <b1gw0rm> how do you hide your ip and dns in IRC without asking an admin
[13:29] <b1gw0rm> i cant connect with my VPN
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> b1gw0rm: thats not an ubuntu support question. ask for a cloak in #freenode
[13:31] <Munster> diverdude, how old is this 13.10 version , is this a recent image ?
[13:32] <diverdude> Munster, just downloaded it today
[13:32] <Munster> hmm, could be a new bug then
[13:36] <Munster> diverdude, I recall having ubiquity hang so i used "no acpi" at the install or try options page , and that worked
[13:36] <otherj> guys, what's the most lightweight package i can install for sending mail from a cronjob? mailutils wants to install a full on mta
[13:36] <otherj> as does mut
[13:37] <benishor> bekks: thank you, fsck did the trick
[13:37] <benishor> I;m having another problem though, this time due to icu-tools vs icu-devtools conflict
[13:37] <yeats> diverdude: you can check /var/log/syslog in the installer environment to see what's going on when it hangs (may require you to "try ubuntu" before installing)
[13:37] <benishor> I'm on 13.10 and apparently dist-upgrade brought icu-devtools which conflicts with icu-tools
[13:38] <benishor> anybody managed to fix this?
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> !info icu-devtools
[13:39] <yeats> otherj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mutt - see the "Installation" section
[13:40] <benishor> ubottu: as I said, a dist-upgrade brought it
[13:40] <hitsujiTMO> benishor: looks like you maybe using an unsupported ppa
[13:40] <mallet> Hi. Do you know a software to lock screen (like xlock) that would allow unlocking with a password other than the login password?
[13:40] <otherj> so, 'ssmtp'
[13:40] <otherj> thanks
[13:40] <_nedr> hello.. i added a private key (pem file ) using ssh-add.. now i want to remove it.. how to do it
[13:42] <zaitzev> ssh-add -d ?
[13:43] <benishor> !info icu-tools
[13:43] <krizoek> any open servers for tomboy out there?
[13:46] <_nedr> zaitzev thanks for reply will check it out
[13:46] <Babuc> exit
[13:47] <_nedr> zaitzev, i tried it it says bad key file
[13:48] <_nedr> Initially i added a key using ssh-add key.pem
[13:48] <_nedr> Now  i tried running ssh-add -d key.pem it says "Bad key file key.pem"
[13:48] <casual_boot> hitsujiTMO: MonkeyDust in 12.10 that this is, 64bit, only first memmap= line is passed to kernel and only if "\" character is before "$". second memmap is ignored if it is on the end of the line. If passed without"\" , then system sees just 128Megs of Ram, and using parameter without second part, after "$". Is is GRUB2 I suppose, that is passing wrong characters to kernel.  If you put ...
[13:48] <casual_boot> ...meminfo= lines in /etc/defualt/grub , under GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" " and do update-grub, you get some unholly mess in the place of "$" character in GRUB kernel boot command line. (like some path or something)
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  what are you trying to accomplish?
[13:50] <casual_boot> MonkeyDust: booting without using 2 memory ranges on 12.10 64-bit
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot: ok, so you were escaping the $ in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX string. you were still missing the $ from the second memmap
[13:51] <TJ-> If anyone see's SeaCalf_ return, please let him have this command to monitor for that heanet.ie connection: "  sudo watch -n 2 sh -c 'P=$(netstat -tnap | grep $(dig +short ftp.heanet.ie) | sed  "s|.*ESTABLISHED.\([[:digit:]]\{1,5\}\).*|\1|"); echo "PID=$P"; if [ ! -z "$P" ]; then ps -fly -p $P | tee -a /tmp/heanet.log; fi'   "
[13:52] <maxagaz> hello
[13:53] <maxagaz> anyone here ?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> maxagaz  this is the ubuntu support channel
[13:55] <wolfybox> how would i set up a build (compiling) server?
[13:55] <casual_boot> hitsujiTMO: well, if by any means line without "\$" comes to GRUB before kernel, it freaks out and passes to kernel something that limits memomry to just 128MB, therefore, kernel can't see second part of memmap paramater. If just one memmap is put to kernel line with "\$", it boots. If there are 2 of memmap lines like that, it does not.
[13:56] <dyu> how to convert dsa key to rsa key?
[13:57] <Babuc> nick /babuc
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot: well the second memmap is malformed in its current state so ofcourse its not going to work
[13:57] <TJ-> dyu: Errr, not possible! The algorithms are different
[13:58] <casual_boot> hitsujiTMO: however I form second memmap= line it does not work.
[13:58] <dyu> TJ-: sorry. i meant dss
[13:59] <TJ-> casual_boot: In "/etc/default/grub" change the quotes to single, e.g.  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=' ' so the shell doesn't try to expand the $ inside the quotes as a variable
[13:59] <lazarus_> is there a simple way to cd to an external media device within a script ?
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: cd /path/to/external/media/device       # does that not do it for you?
[14:01] <casual_boot> thanks TJ- that explains part of it
[14:02] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: im wondering if the device mount dir changes on a fresh install
[14:04] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: /dev/mmcblk0p1 found it hehe
[14:05] <casual_boot> TJ-: additional problem is that kernel does not get second parameter of memmap, e.g. second memory range not to use. It ignores it or does not boot when passed from GRUB2
[14:05] <lazarus_> ugh or not
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: thats a block device. what exactly are you trying to do?
[14:07] <wolfybox> how would i set up a build (compiling) server?
[14:07] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: create a restore scirpt that mounts a usb drive and extracts backed up tar archives
[14:07] <TJ-> casual_boot: What does this show? "grep memmap /boot/grub/grub.cfg"  ?
[14:08] <TJ-> wolfybox: Do you mean for distcc?
[14:09] <wolfybox> TJ-: i compile using scons, so i want to set up my server to compile automatically from a git repository
[14:09] <dyu> trying again. how do i convert a ssh-dss public key to ssh-rsa?
[14:10] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: it might be a good idea to use UUID to do it
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: ok, if its mounting the usb then you'd best scan the /dev/sdXY for unmounted partitions. Mount them to whatever dir you want, look for a signature that suggests its a backup, then extract the backup
[14:11] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: if its the same partition each time then yes using UUID from blkid would work.
[14:12] <linuxearth> hello ubuntu audience
[14:13] <linuxearth> how are you all today?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> linuxearth  #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[14:14] <linuxearth> ahhhahahhaha
[14:14] <linuxearth> saying hi also?
[14:14] <linuxearth> lol
[14:18] <CavemanZipper> hey everyone, could use some help here
[14:18] <CavemanZipper> Ubuntu keeps giving me a blank screen after login
[14:18] <CavemanZipper> System program problem detected
[14:19] <CavemanZipper> I can see my wallpaper and cursor but everything else isn't there..
[14:19] <CavemanZipper> All this happened after I installed GNOME Shell and tried looging into it :|
[14:19] <CavemanZipper> any thoughts?
[14:19] <linuxearth> try KDE shell
[14:19] <CavemanZipper> OK..how do I go about that?..
[14:20] <CavemanZipper> I've been Google-ing the past 3 hours or so and trying all sorts of fixes but to no avail :(
[14:20] <CavemanZipper> so you guys are my last hope
[14:21] <linuxearth> man, try to go some pages on Google which are not the first page you search, means search results on pages like 6, 7, 8 also work!
[14:21] <CavemanZipper> Well I went till 3 and the search goes cold there :(
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> google for 3 hours on end?
[14:22] <dyu> CavemenZipper: what were you using before that?
[14:22] <CavemanZipper> I've purged gnome and reinstalled unity a couple of times
[14:22] <CavemanZipper> uhh...
[14:22] <CavemanZipper> I just installed the gnome shell, then though i'd try it out
[14:22] <linuxearth> why don't u install other DE?
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> CavemanZipper: did you install gnome 3.10 from the ppa?
[14:22] <CavemanZipper> rebooted, selected gnome at the login, then now it won't get me anywhere
[14:23] <casual_boot> TJ-: /boot/grub/grub.cfg shows 2 memmap= lines , with "\&" in them , like put in e
[14:23] <lazarus_> as $HOME prints the users home dir regardless of username is there something simalair that will grab the username i.e $USER
[14:23] <casual_boot>  /etc/default/grub with ' '
[14:23] <CavemanZipper> oh I wouldn't know if it was ppa or not..
[14:23] <linuxearth> that's the error
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: yes $USER
[14:24] <CavemanZipper> I'm pretty sure I just apt-getted it
[14:24] <linuxearth> ;)- you are not 100% sure
[14:24] <CavemanZipper> oh wait actually, if PPA is from the SOftware Center
[14:24] <CavemanZipper> then yes, I'm 100% sure that's what I DIDN'T do :3
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> CavemanZipper: how exactly did you install gnome?
[14:25] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: i thought it might be that simple hehe thanks
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> CavemanZipper  from the software center or with a PPA?
[14:25] <SeaCalf_> TJ- i added a commented out to "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security"; ,which was uncommented in the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades , where "Automatically upgrade packages from these (origin:archive) " section are. I will see if ftp.heanet.ie will still pop up now , if it does'nt i will do "sudo netstat -tpa" and "ps -efly | grep $PID" if it appears.
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> CavemanZipper: can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[14:26] <TJ-> casual_boot: OK, remove the "\" prefix from the "$" in "/etc/default/grub" and it should generate it correctly with the nexy "update-grub"
[14:27] <TJ-> SeaCalf_ You can use this command to set-up a monitor for that heanet.ie connection: "  sudo watch -n 2 sh -c 'P=$(netstat -tnap | grep $(dig +short ftp.heanet.ie) | sed  "s|.*ESTABLISHED.\([[:digit:]]\{1,5\}\).*|\1|"); echo "PID=$P"; if [ ! -z "$P" ]; then ps -fly -p $P | tee -a /tmp/heanet.log; fi'   "
[14:27] <casual_boot> I can just now think that is some kind of 12.10/GRUB2 bug on 64bit, and kernel 3.5 , that you can not pass 2 memmap lilnes.  It is actually: ro rootflags=subvol=@ memmap=0x8000000\$0x10000000 memmap=0x8000000\$0x30000000 quiet splash $vt_handoff
[14:28] <casual_boot> TJ-: I tried it editing it before boot in grub2 menu without ' \& ' and it does not boot without it. But will try anyway
[14:28] <SeaCalf_> TJ- will that stop that domain or process ?
[14:30] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: No, it monitors every 2 seconds for any connection to ftp.heanet.ie and reports them, both to screen and to the log-file at "/tmp/heanet.log" so you let it run in a terminal and not have to watch the machine yourself
[14:30] <belgianguy> I'm setting up a Ubuntu 13.04 media server, and have hooked up my USB external hdd to it, but I don't see it in /media
[14:30] <CavemanZipper> Downloaded gnome shell, rebooted into it, got a blank screen and "System program problem detected", purged gnome shell and reinstalled Unity- still the same problem. Any ideas on fixing it?
[14:30] <belgianguy> do servers automount by default?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  use sudo blkid to see where it is
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> CavemanZipper: can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[14:32] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: thanks! :) found it: /dev/sdc1: LABEL="LaCie" UUID="6853-5BA9" TYPE="vfat"
[14:32] <belgianguy> so I have to manually mount it then?
[14:33] <SeaCalf_> TJ- ok i see. I tried that command and it says "No such file in directory" So i guess it will create it when ftp.heanet.ie pops up again
[14:35] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: That command shouldn't report anything like "No such file in directory". If it did, something was changed.
[14:35] <lazarus_> i ran chmod -x "script name" but the script is stored on external media does this prevent it being made executable
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: vfat doesn't support linux permissions
[14:36] <SeaCalf_> TJ- it says "No such file in directory" . I copied and pasted the command as you gave me
[14:37] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: is there a way around it?
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: try /bin/bash /path/to/script
[14:38] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Did you strip off the surrounding double-quote marks (before the 'sudo' and after the entire command) ?
[14:38] <SeaCalf_> TJ- i pasted like this    sudo watch -n 2 sh -c 'P=$(netstat -tnap | grep $(dig +short ftp.heanet.ie) | sed "s|.*ESTABLISHED.\([[:digit:]]\{1,5\}\).*|\1|"); echo "PID=$P"; if [ ! -z "$P" ]; then ps -fly -p $P | tee -a /tmp/heanet.log; fi'
[14:39] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: that works thanks
[14:39] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Yes, that should be correct. It certainly works here without any warnings, strange.
[14:40] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Could you road-test this shell command string I've given SeaCalf_ ? See if you get the same warning/error he does?
[14:40] <SeaCalf_> TJ- every minute or so it says "No such file in directory"
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: dig, not found. SeaCalf_ have you installed: dnsutils
[14:42] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Ahhhh! thanks :)
[14:43] <SeaCalf_> hitsujiTMO no i have not
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> SeaCalf_: sudo apt-get install dnsutils                                 then retry the script
[14:45] <artium888> Hey everyone, does anyone know how to solve this :
[14:45] <artium888>  isc-dhcp-server : Depends: isc-dhcp-common (= 4.1.ESV-R4-0ubuntu5.5) but 4.1.ESV-R4-0ubuntu5.8 is to be installed
[14:46] <bekks> artium888: Install the version required.
[14:46] <artium888> bekks: so do i need to downgrade ?
[14:46] <artium888> bekks: the isc-dhcp-common
[14:46] <bekks> artium888: No, since you didnt install a version yet.
[14:47] <artium888> bekks: i have the latest version
[14:47] <artium888> bekks: isc-dhcp-common is already the newest version.
[14:47] <TJ-> artium888: Have you done "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[14:47] <artium888> TJ-: first upgrade and then update?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> artium888  paste this line in a terminal     sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:48] <bekks> artium888: update, then upgrade.
[14:48] <TJ-> artium888: 'precise-security' has version "4.1.ESV-R4-0ubuntu5.5" and precise-updates has "4.1.ESV-R4-0ubuntu5.9" so you local package archive is slightly out of date
[14:49] <artium888> TJ- , MonkeyDust , i've updated & upgrade right now and i still cant install the dhcp server
[14:49] <QWERTYj> hi
[14:50] <TJ-> artium888: "apt-cache policy isc-dhcp-common"
[14:50] <TJ-> artium888: and also "apt-cache policy  isc-dhcp-server" ... pastebin the output of those two commands
[14:51] <artium888> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855424/
[14:51] <artium888> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855428/
[14:52] <catkiller_> Hi there! Quick Samba question on Ubuntu: I've got a share where I set up create and directory masks (to 0500) but they are simply ineffective. Any file/directory I create are using the client's mask (0755)
[14:53] <catkiller_> Also, "force create mode" doesn't seem to work. If I set it to 0500 for instance files are still owner writeable, group readable and other readable
[14:53] <catkiller_> Any idea?
[14:53] <TJ-> artium888: The local package list is out of date, did "sudo apt-get update" complete without errors?
[14:53] <artium888> catkiller_: did u restart the service ?
[14:53] <artium888> TJ-: yup
[14:53] <catkiller_> artium888: many times
[14:54] <catkiller_> artium888: Also reconnected the client
[14:54] <artium888> TJ-: i have alot of problems lately.. i also cant install wine..
[14:54] <artium888> TJ-: something weird
[14:54] <TJ-> artium888: You can check that by looking at " http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/isc-dhcp/ " and seeing the version 5.9 packages are there
[14:54] <TJ-> artium888: I don't see any messages from that archive mirror saying its currently updating, so the indexes should be good.
[14:55] <artium888> TJ-: ur israeli /
[14:55] <artium888> ?
[14:55] <TJ-> artium888: You might try changing the mirror hostname in "/etc/apt/sources.list" to another mirror (e.g. from il.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com) and redo "apt-get update" to see if that fixes it
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> artium888: is your filesystem mounted read only?
[14:56] <artium888> hitsujiTMO: no its a clean install of ubuntu 12.04 64bit..
[14:58] <p007> hello
[14:58] <artium888> TJ-: could u connect to my comp over teamviewer ?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> !u | artium888
[15:00] <p007> hello
[15:01] <malimbar> hello
[15:01] <p007> anyone there?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> p007  type /names to find out
[15:01] <malimbar> lol
[15:01] <p007> I have a question, and I really have no clue how to do this, I ordered a VPS with ubuntu, and ordered 5 ips, I want to make it so when a user connects with a same username/pw their assigned a different ip (external ip). so, anyone know how to make openvpn can connect to multiple vpn in one vps?
[15:01] <bekks> p007: Thats not possible.
[15:01] <artium888> what... why it asks for 32bit packages.. i have 64bit system.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855484/
[15:01] <p007> how to do that?
[15:02] <malimbar> artium888, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[15:02] <malimbar> artium888, some programs require 32 bit libraries to work, and they're not included by default in a 64 bit system.
[15:02] <bekks> p007: you cant force a user to be connecting using one specific external IP. If the user wants to connect to a different external IP, you cant stop him from doing so.
[15:02] <artium888> malimbar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855499/
[15:03] <malimbar> artium888, what have you done to troubleshoot this so far?
[15:04] <artium888> malimbar: idk
[15:04] <bekks> artium888: teamviewer is a 32bit application.-.
[15:04] <bekks> artium888: Thats why it asks for 32bit libs.
[15:05] <p007> ops... sorry..  i mean same user can connect on other ip too... i have installed openvpn on ubuntu at my first ip... but vpn cannot connect to external ip
[15:05] <pip__> my samba shares keep disappearing when I reboot my rig, any idea why?
[15:06] <artium888> bekks: no i downloaded a 64bit version
[15:06] <bekks> p007: Then configure you openvpn server accordingly.
[15:06] <pip__> by that I mean I have to share the folders again for them to be seen
[15:06] <tonph> Hi I am  struggling to use my 3g modem MMX377G with my ubuntu 12.04
[15:06] <artium888> bekks: u can find it on their site
[15:06] <p007> how to do that?
[15:06] <tonph> am following this tutor code-cocktail.in/micromax-3g-datacard-mmx377g-installation-ubuntu/,
[15:06] <gry> Is it normal for npm and nodejs from the repos to conflict each-other?
[15:06] <bekks> artium888: And in fact - you may ask the teamviewer support too - theit 64bit package is just a wrapper which installs 32bit libs along woth 32bit wine.
[15:06] <bekks> artium888: Thats why it needs 32bit libs.
[15:07] <bekks> !openvpn | p007
[15:07] <artium888> bekks: psst... what a mistake to install 64bit system
[15:07] <tonph> any one has any spare idea on how to set this up ?
[15:07] <tonph> any help would be very much appreciated....
[15:07] <bekks> artium888: It would be a mistake to install 32bit OS on 64bit hardware.
[15:07] <malimbar> artium888, I'm confused on why it wouldn't install those 3 libraries though
[15:08] <artium888> malimbar: same here
[15:08] <platinov> здравствуйте)
[15:08] <tonph> my prob is usb listing was working  yesterday but I think i poke some wrong things and now it is not listing anythin .. :(
[15:08] <bekks> malimbar: Because teamviewer is a huge pile of mess when it comes to the structure of their deb package.
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> grp: no. whats the exact output you are getting?#
[15:08] <bekks> artium888: I explained it to you, why it wants those 32bit libs.
[15:08] <tonph> any idea guys ?
[15:08] <cholsu> ubuntu support custom compiled the newest kernel?
[15:08] <artium888> bekks: how do i hide join/left irc events in the webchat..
[15:08] <artium888> bekks: its spamming
[15:08] <bekks> artium888: I dont know.
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> cholsu: no, custom kernels are unsupported
[15:09] <cholsu> I got serious error in monitor resolution setting
[15:09] <bekks> artium888: I am used to them and dont want to hide them.
[15:09] <cholsu> oh sadly
[15:09] <tonph> my dongle is this http://www.micromaxinfo.com/data-card/3G/MMX377G
[15:09] <tonph> :(
[15:09] <platinov> кто может помочь с вопросиком одним интересным?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> !ru | platinov
[15:10] <cholsu> I almost read simple russian character, it's hard language for me lol
[15:11] <p007> that why i already installed it... i already assigned external ip on my main ip (eth0)... i try ping my external ip, its success.... when i try connect openvpn on my external ip, its cannot connect...
[15:11] <malimbar> artium888, have you tried "apt-get -f install ia32-libs"?
[15:11] <bekks> p007: Fix your . key. It always produces multiple chars when you press it once.
[15:11] <bekks> p007: And please refer to the openvpn documentation on how to configure openvpn.
[15:12] <cholsu> but before I used to install custom compiled kernel from kernel.org, unsupport it now in 13.10?
[15:12] <tonph> any help !!! :(
[15:13] <bekks> cholsu: They never were supported officially. Nothing stops you from doing it, too.
[15:13] <malimbar> artium888, and if that doesn't work, you can try sudo apt-get clean and try installing again. That's what duckduckgo recommends anyways
[15:13] <p007> when i installing it, i refer from this site http://chagridsada.blogspot.com/2012/06/openvpn-system-based-on-user-pass-lib.html
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> cholsu: you can install custom kernels if you wish. but they are not supported. so you are on your own if something goes wrong
[15:13] <yeats> malimbar: artium888: ia32-libs is deprecated - you now just append ':i386' to the package name
[15:13] <cholsu> yeah maybe
[15:14] <cholsu> good answer thx lol
[15:14] <TJ-> cholsu: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[15:14] <yeats> !mainline | cholsu
[15:14] <malimbar> yeats, that's cleaner anyways, but it usually means a lot more hunting down of individual libraries
[15:14] <cholsu> what a so much help infos are!
[15:15] <yeats> malimbar: yeah - there are plusses and minuses to the change
[15:15] <malimbar> tonph, I'm sorry... but what did you need help with again?
[15:15] <cholsu> too kind of you!
[15:15] <bekks> malimbar: Blam the teamviewer packager(s) for what he/she/they did.
[15:15] <bekks> *blame
[15:16] <malimbar> bekks, lol, sounds good, but in my lack of knowledge I just put forward a bunch of tryhard until I figure it out :)
[15:16] <cholsu> I'm a little afraid of malicious codes inside ubuntu kernel?!
[15:16] <SeaCalf_> installing dnsutils did'nt help. ftp.heanet.ie stopped all my other software that is accessing the internet when its active.
[15:16] <cholsu> possibility...
[15:16] <bekks> cholsu: Then dont use ubuntu kernels.
[15:16] <SeaCalf_> TJ- I managed to get this, can you make sense of it http://pastebin.com/bZEQpDZi
[15:16] <bekks> cholsu: and the same bad code maybe in the kernel.org kernels.
[15:16] <cholsu> good
[15:17] <cholsu> hehe then nevermind
[15:17] <cholsu> I went too much
[15:17] <tonph> malimbar: I am struggling with MMX377G modem with ubuntu 12.04
[15:17] <tonph> malimbar: and thanks for ur concern
[15:18] <SeaCalf_> I had to disconnect the net to stop the ftp.heanet.ie process , i couldnt use the internet otherwise
[15:18] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Which process establishes the connections to ftp.heanet.ie?
[15:18] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Until you find out, there is no reason to repeat that again and again :)
[15:18] <malimbar> tonph, searching says it's a 3g usb data card? and what's it doing exactly?
[15:19] <tonph> malimbar: this is 3g usb internet dongle.
[15:19] <SeaCalf_> bekks i got PID of 1375 for heanet
[15:19] <bekks> SeaCalf_: And which process is that?
[15:20] <SeaCalf_> ps -efly | grep $1375 is supposed to output that ,i dont know these things i'm new to linux
[15:20] <tonph> malimbar: I m following this code-cocktail.in/micromax-3g-datacard-mmx377g-installation-ubuntu/
[15:21] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Wrong syntax. "ps -ef | grep 1375"
[15:21] <tonph> malimbar: my prob is that step #4 - USB0* listing is not coming up in mine
[15:21] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: "197.104.49.233:60275    ftp.heanet.ie:http      ESTABLISHED 1375/freshclam" ... that's your anti-virus
[15:21] <Guest92080> morning, is there a way to tell if a motherboard has SATA ports on it from the terminal?
[15:21] <SeaCalf_> bekks i just copied and pasted the command
[15:22] <SeaCalf_> TJ- what does that mean
[15:22] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: It'll be fetching the latest virus signature updates
[15:23] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/freshclam.1.html
[15:23] <SeaCalf_> TJ- so its downloading antivirus software all the time /
[15:23] <bekks> SeaCalf_: No. It is downloading new signatures.
[15:23] <malimbar> tonph, that doesn't sound like a problem with step 4, but rather one of the earlier steps. Do you prefer command line or graphical btw?
[15:24] <SeaCalf_> Can i uninstall ClamAV  then ?
[15:24] <bekks> SeaCalf_: if you dont need/want it - sure.
[15:24] <malimbar> tonph, what I would do next is go to ubuntu's "disks" utility and see what devices are listed
[15:24] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Why not just reconfigure the update schedule?
[15:24] <bekks> Or just stop freshclam from running.
[15:25] <tonph> malimbar: and what should I check in that ....
[15:25] <Guest92080> what command would I run from the terminal to find out if my motherboard has any SATA ports
[15:25] <SeaCalf_> TJ- its a pc i got from a friend , i didnt know about ClamAV is on here
[15:25] <malimbar> tonph, see if the usb dongle is recognized at all first, and if it it is, check whether it's mounted. And if it is, check what the location of it is
[15:25] <malimbar> tonph, Ie it's mount point
[15:25] <bekks> Guest92080: wget - to download the manual.
[15:26] <Guest92080> bekks, don't know the part number
[15:26] <tonph> malimbar: yeah , it is listed in that. But the location has '-' in that
[15:26] <bekks> Guest92080: Then use dmidecode to find out.
[15:26] <SeaCalf_> Ok i will try remove ClamAV and see if that helps
[15:26] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Why not just stopping freshclam?
[15:26] <tonph> malimbar: device = /dev/sdc
[15:26] <malimbar> tonph, is it mounted?
[15:26] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: I guess there's a cron schedule to run every 30 minutes or so ... check with "sudo crontab -e"
[15:27] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Do you remove the entire garden when a cat strolls through it?
[15:27] <faugusztin> Guest92080: lspci | grep SATA
[15:27] <Guest92080> bekks, AWESOME, thanks
[15:27] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Use Ctrl+X to exit the crontab editor
[15:27] <tonph> malImbar: how can i check that ?
[15:28] <tonph> malimbar: since this is showing the device as /dev/sdc i think this is mounted. Right !!
[15:28] <Guest92080> faugusztin, THANKS. i guess according to this there is SATA ports IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180 SATA/PATA  [SiS]  BUT how to determine how many now
[15:28] <faugusztin> Guest92080: or if you got a SAS controller too, then you should check lspci | grep SCSI
[15:28] <floryn> e
[15:28] <malimbar> tonph, in that same utility, below the big box of vlumes, there should be either a little right arrow (looks like "play") or a box (looks like a "stop" button). If you hover over it, it will say you can either mount it or unmount it
[15:29] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: You could also reconfigure freshclam to use a local (South African) mirror, see http://www.clamav.net/mirrors.html#za
[15:29] <SeaCalf_> TJ- i dont understand that command " no crontab for root - using an empty one"
[15:29] <malimbar> tonph, or at the bottom it'll say "contents (blah blah) - mounted at... " or "contents (blah blah) - Not Mounted"
[15:29] <bekks> SeaCalf_: there is no crontab for root, and an empty one will be used.
[15:30] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: OK, it's not a scheduled job in the crontab them, I guess there must be a system daemon service running it on a schedule, instead
[15:30] <tonph> malimbar: Am unable to see any such, the big bar box on volume has an entry - No media detected... :(
[15:30] <faugusztin> Guest92080: open the case ? :P
[15:31] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: "sudo grep freshclam /etc/cron*/*" might identify it
[15:31] <malimbar> tonph, but you don't see anything below that box?'
[15:32] <platinov> есть кто с наших?
[15:32] <SeaCalf_> TJ- sudo grep freshclam /etc/cron*/* outputs nothing
[15:32] <tonph> malimbar: noh :(
[15:32] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: OK, so it must be run as part of the clamav system services then
[15:32] <tonph> malimbar: i can see some text like usage bla bla, but has '-' on that
[15:32] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: I don't use Anti-virus so I don't know where it will be configured
[15:33] <malimbar> tonph, and if you go into the terminal, and type "sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt", what does it print out?
[15:33] <Guest92080> faugusztin, it's offsite. i'm ssh'd into it and try to tell a customer what type of HDD to buy. either a IDE or SATA drive
[15:33] <tonph> malimbar: looking at other disk devices, i can see the 'mount' link ...
[15:33] <malimbar> tonph, put in in pastebin if you can
[15:33] <cholsu> I hope canonical develope some elegant office apps
[15:33] <cholsu> libreoffice s decent
[15:33] <platinov> whot this files atddd skaspdd skysapddd skapdd  ????    from /etc !      inciling cpu 100% =(
[15:34] <malimbar> cholsu, libreoffice is awesome and Canonical can't compete. But if you want you can always try one of the other multitude of apps that do the same thing. Gnome makes quite a few, KDE makes quite a few, etc
[15:34] <cholsu> hmm
[15:34] <cholsu> I knew you said in that way
[15:34] <tonph> malimbar: mount: no medium found on /dev/sdc
[15:35] <bekks> tonph: use a partition for mounting, not the entire disk.
[15:36] <faugusztin> Guest92080: can you do dmidecode | less, then search for Base Board Information
[15:36] <faugusztin> Guest92080: and here for "Product Name:"
[15:36] <TJ-> Guest92080: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" or view that log-file yourself, you'll see the ports being recognised
[15:36] <tonph> bekks: i didnt get that ... sorry
[15:37] <Guest92080> faugusztin, ok, found it's a foxconn and its product name is 661 7MI
[15:37] <bekks> tonph: use sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc to see the partitions, and then use mount /dev/sdcX ... instead mount /dev/sdc
[15:37] <faugusztin> http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=Motherboard&U=en-us0000152
[15:37] <tonph> bekks: ok let me check so
[15:38] <faugusztin> Guest92080: so it has 2x SATA ports
[15:38] <Guest92080> faugusztin, i believe so, thats what I found via google yes
[15:38] <tonph> bekks: this is the result of fdisk - Cannot open /dev/sdc
[15:38] <tonph> looks like some thing got messed up ..
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: you did use sudo right?
[15:39] <bekks> tonph: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[15:39] <Guest92080> faugusztin, TJ- bekks thanks guys for the help!!! gotta run
[15:40] <tonph> bekks: my mistake, yeah using sudo didnt complain anything - but not result also
[15:40] <bekks> tonph: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc has output. Pastebin it please.
[15:40] <tonph> result is nothing
[15:40] <platinov> sudo apt-get install gparted
[15:40] <platinov> sudo gparted
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> platinov: gksudo gparted      you mena
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> mean*
[15:41] <platinov> ;D
[15:41] <tonph> ok let me install gparted and then check so again...
[15:41] <malimbar> tonph, I believe you, but it's nice to actually get the whole pastebin anyways. Sometimes little details are useful
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: there's also: sudo parted -l           or: lsblk
[15:42] <bekks> tonph: Why dont you pastebin the requested information, but instead walk the try&error way?
[15:42] <SonikkuAmerica> hitsujiTMO: These days just running GParted from anywhere other than the terminal forces authentication
[15:42] <tonph> bekks: let paste bin the info ..
[15:45] <tonph> I have tried to paste some of the info here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855702/
[15:45] <tonph> am in that ignore/cancel state still - :)
[15:45] <cholsu> is it possible to mount iphone 5s on ubuntu 13.10?
[15:45] <cholsu> I failed to do it
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: whats the output of: file /dev/sdc
[15:47] <tonph> hitsuJiTMO: its - /dev/sdc: block special
[15:48] <beefman> maybe dumb question or nitpicking: is it possible to prevent a program from popping to front when it starts?  i click skype then start doing something then it interrupts me by coming to the foreground.  using gnome
[15:49] <tonph> my prob is that COM port is not recognised for my modem...
[15:50] <Jessica1> who could help me for a PS2 to USB keyboard ?
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: mount | grep /dev/sr1
[15:52] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: it results me to no result... silent prompt !
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: how far have you gotten in the installation?
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: did you install the .deb drivers?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> beefman  Skype > options > chat > when somebody...
[15:53] <beefman> MonkeyDust: not when somebody pings me.  i mean on startup.  i don't want any programs coming to foreground when they start
[15:54] <tonph> hitsujiTMO : I install as per this code-cocktail.in/micromax-3g-datacard-mmx377g-installation-ubuntu/, and it was working yesterday
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: ls -l ls /dev/ttyUSB*
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> beefman  General > start skype minimised
[15:55] <beefman> MonkeyDust: i have that checked too, but the login still pops up.  isn't there a way in the window manager to prevent any program from interrupting me?
[15:55] <malimbar> tonph, This sounds like a really basic non-linuxy step... but have you restarted your computer after it started doing this?
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: sorry: ls -l /dev/ttyUSB*
[15:57] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855776/, but this is from my other photon-modem (Huawei) which i m connected to internet. But yesterday I was able to detect both the modem, removing this and trying to connect only my MMX377G modem does not work ..:(
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> beefman  in dconf-editor, maybe, i'm looking, but don't find anything (in org.gnome to start)
[15:59] <beefman> MonkeyDust: thank you, i'll take a look
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: is the mmx modem in the system now?
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: lsusb -knn
[16:00] <tonph> hitsujiTMO : I have attached both as of now, MMX is not detected and PHOTON is detected and thus am able to use internet from it :)
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: sorry: lsusb && lsusb -t
[16:01] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: "-knn" ??? lspci ftw :)
[16:02] <pulkitiiit> #blender
[16:02] <pip__> hi I'm trying to set up a file server for ubuntu & windows machines which kit do I need to use
[16:02] <tonph> hitsujiTMO : let me try
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: tiredness does wonderful things
[16:02] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Those devices initially present as a virtual CD-ROM (see /dev/sdb) containing the drivers. They need usbswitch-ing to their alter-ego modem configuration
[16:02] <pip__> samba or something else?
[16:02] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: You made me giggle, too :)
[16:02] <artium888> could anyone help me with this ? : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855804/
[16:02] <pip__> I'll be serving files from an Ubuntu rig to both win & ubuntu machines
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: i know, i'd just presume that the software installs a udev rule to auto switch
[16:04] <artium888> bekks MonkeyDust malimbar TJ , does anyone know how to fix this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855804/
[16:04] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: looks like the options failed .. still i have pasted lspci result here..http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855815/
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: please do: lsusb && lsusb -t
[16:05] <Nusoft> I have made my decision! After looking at the URL Jordan_U sent me, I am going to get Ubuntu. But before that, I have to get some sort of virtual machine like VMware and give it a little test.
[16:05] <bekks> artium888: you have to fix the error that leads to that error message. The postinstall script fails, you have to debug it and see why.
[16:05] <Nusoft> Ubuntu might be...the one!
[16:05] <Nusoft> Thanks, Jordan_U!
[16:06] <artium888> bekks: eh.. kinda new to ubuntu.. what do i do ?
[16:06] <SchrodingersScat> Nusoft: there's always virtualbox
[16:06] <bekks> artium888: you have to fix the error that leads to that error message. The postinstall script fails, you have to debug it and see why.
[16:06] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: looks like this when i was installing yesterday Bus 002 Device 023: ID 2020:4010   in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855825/
[16:06] <Nusoft> Is Virtualbox free?
[16:06] <TJ-> artium888: I'd suggest a purge and reinstall of the -server and -comon packages, in case there were some artifacts from a prior install
[16:07] <ddssc> resized my partitions with gparted, moved 10gigs from linux to win. now windows won't boot. is there any way to fix my win boot partition?
[16:08] <demophobia> Does ubuntu not have a default image editing program? All I want to do is crop a screenshot!
[16:08] <bekks> demophobia: Just use gimp.
[16:08] <belgianguy> ok, so my media server can stream mp3
[16:09] <ddssc> don't use gimp, gimp is the worst pos ever created.
[16:09] <belgianguy> but it doesn't want to play WMA
[16:09] <demophobia> "no longer included by default because of it's professional-grade complexity", right, bekks ?
[16:09] <demophobia> ddssc, what's better?
[16:09] <belgianguy> is there a way to find out if it's codec related?
[16:09] <beefman> MonkeyDust: http://bertrandbenoit.blogspot.com/2011/09/change-window-behavior-to-prevent-focus.html
[16:09] <ddssc> demophobia: anything really.
[16:09] <demophobia> lol
[16:11] <TJ-> tonph: Have you tried "sudo modprobe option && echo '12d1 1506' | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/option1/new_id"  ?
[16:11] <ddssc> demophobia:  use pinta
[16:11] <tonph> TJ : nope...
[16:12] <ddssc> resized my partitions with gparted, moved 10gigs from linux to win. now windows won't boot. is there any way to fix my win boot partition?
[16:12] <tonph> TJ : what it suppose to do :) ?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> beefman  great!
[16:12] <Nusoft> Is Virtualbox free? Or do I have to pay for it?
[16:12] <malimbar> Nusoft, free
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> Nusoft: its free
[16:12] <Nusoft> Okay, then! Thank you!
[16:13] <malimbar> ddssc, exactly how did you add it to the windows partition?
[16:13] <tonph> I was checking the log :/var/log/syslog and tried ataching and detaching - and i foud this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855889/
[16:14] <ddssc> malimbar: shrunk linux partition, and then expanded win partition by the unallocated amount (10 gigs)
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: cat /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/* /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf | pastebinit
[16:14] <demophobia> ddssc, i'll write that down; i just cropped it with fotoxx ...
[16:14] <artium888> bekks: im trying.. i cant
[16:14] <malimbar> ddssc... don't do that again. heh. You might be able to fix it by putting in a windows recovery disk and/or booting it in safe mode (if you can)
[16:14] <ddssc> demophobia: sudo apt-get install pinta
[16:15] <tonph> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855895/
[16:15] <MaazZ> searching for hack for xubuntu...
[16:15] <ddssc> malimbar: point taken, using open source software for serious tasks is stupid.
[16:15] <demophobia> ddssc, i just used the Ubuntu Software Center ... looks like it should be better than fotoxx, which seems more photography-collection-oriented
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> MaazZ  a hack for xubuntu?
[16:15] <MaazZ> yeah
[16:15] <demophobia> thanks :)
[16:15] <MaazZ> program
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> MaazZ  meaning?
[16:16] <Nusoft> Okay! Gotta go! Bye, guys and gals! :D
[16:16] <malimbar> ddssc, no, but resizing windows partitions and expecting windows to just be ok with that is a bit weird
[16:16] <MaazZ> i want to hack
[16:16] <SchrodingersScat> !vim | MaazZ
[16:16] <malimbar> ddssc, windows doesn't like to be messed with without it's knowledge, and actively fights against it
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> MaazZ  what do you want to hack and how legal is that?
[16:16] <ddssc> malimbar: I've done it a million times with win tools like paragon.
[16:16] <MaazZ> legal enough
[16:16] <MaazZ> hack bill gates
[16:16] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust: he should hack on emacs, i think they always want help
[16:17] <malimbar> ddssc, those programs are running under a tight assumption that you're using windows, and fix windows for you afterwards
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> MaazZ  try to hack NSA, then
[16:18] <malimbar> ddssc, it's like trying to dual boot with windows and ubuntu, and windows just  happily overwrites the MBR, because "hey, who would use anything but windows" is the base assumption of their installs
[16:18] <fieldfirst> Is it possible to use SElinux on Ubuntu ?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> !selinux
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: it does look like there's no driver installed for the device. can you try reinstalling the .deb for it
[16:19] <SeaCalf_> TJ- I didnt find a way to configure the virus definition updates for Clamav. There is no GUI for it and Clamav is not listed in programs. I was able to find Clamav and its update helper Freshclam in Synaptic package manager. They were installed and i removed Clamav from the my system. I hope the issue over now and i can get back to working in peace again. Thanks for the help guys :)
[16:20] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: i find this on the log ::scsi 47:0:0:0: CD-ROM            Micromax Modem            6225 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS::, was wandering why this is reported as CDROM .. :(
[16:20] <tonph> yeah - let me try to reinstall things again...
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: its a dual mode device. its storing the drivers on the virtual cd.
[16:21] <TJ-> tonph: The device has multiple personalities. It initially presents a virtual CD-ROM file-system containing the driver files. Once installed, the driver is supposed to switch the USB device ID to present the serial ports (or Ethernet port)
[16:21]  * TJ- has one here
[16:21] <tonph> TJ: ahaa.... got it let me reinstall things again and .. get back to make some noise again :)
[16:22] <artium888> bekks: this is how i solved it: sudo dpkg --force-all -P isc-dhcp-server
[16:25] <arulmagi> Hi guys. I need a help. How to download mp3 from a webpage using wget?
[16:25] <gordonjcp> arulmagi: wget <url for file>
[16:26] <val__> a question for people who like beautiful things : which font do you like to edit/print a professional document ?
[16:26] <arulmagi> thanks for the response gordonjcp. i tried that but it downloads just the webpage as index.html
[16:28] <oddantfr> I guess nobody likes beautiful things
[16:29] <Jessica1> I can't more skype window, it's on the top on the left
[16:29] <Jessica1> I can't move skype window, it's on the top on the left
[16:29] <gordonjcp> !ot | oddantfr
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> arulmagi: try adding --page-requisites
[16:32] <oddantfr> gordonjcp: as font can't be different from one system to another I felt right to ask that in here, sorry if my way of asking is bumping your robotic way of applying rules
[16:37] <gordonjcp> oddantfr: it's not an Ubuntu support question
[16:41] <arulmagi> Hi
[16:42] <madyourse> oddantfr: what's your question. Some people are so an=l.
[16:42] <jhutchins> SeaCalf_: You know that clamav only finds Windows viruses, right?
[16:43] <demophobia> any idea why following http://sidvind.com/wiki/Thunderbird/Change_account_order failed to change the account order?
[16:44] <SeaCalf_> jhutchins its a friend of mine's pc he gave to me. I never knew about Clamav is installed on it.
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> demophobia  don't trust instructions on random websites you should find
[16:46] <demophobia> MonkeyDust, erm, thank you ... ... so ... can you help me fix it? :D
[16:46] <jhutchins> SeaCalf_: clam is configured via text files, as is freshclam which updates the definition files.  The default install on Ubuntu should be configured to work automatically.  I don't know if it sets up scan-on-open or scheduled scans.
[16:48] <demophobia> Does Ubuntu automatically delete backup files after the original file has been deleted for a certain length of time?
[16:49] <SeaCalf_> jhutchins ok i see. But it does'nt matter now, i'm glad Clamav-freshclam is  removed from the system now. I dont want antivirus software here since i practise good computing behaviour :) .
[16:49] <bekks> demophobia: Ubuntu does not even create backup files at all, automatically.
[16:49] <demophobia> ... ... i seem to have a lot of them ... ...
[16:50] <demophobia> are you sure, bekks ? where are these ~ files coming from them?
[16:50] <demophobia> *then
[16:50] <bekks> demophobia: And you have a broken . key, too.
[16:50] <demophobia> lol
[16:50] <icecool> hello, i need a good tool to connect to free VPN in italy
[16:50] <AMPX> Is there a way to get Ubuntu on Mac?
[16:50] <bekks> demophobia: the ~ are created when the user - that means you - edits and saves a files. This does not happen automatically, but by the intent of the user.
[16:51] <bekks> AMPX: If it is an Intel based mac, install it.
[16:51] <demophobia> so it's an option in gedit?
[16:51] <bekks> demophobia: exactly.
[16:51] <AMPX> bekks: thanks. ill check it out
[16:51] <pulse00> hi all. is there a way to set an environment variable for the www-data user manually, so it's available to scripts run by the nginx webserver through fastcgi?
[16:52] <icecool> VPN free tool?
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> icecool: use the vpn client for whatever vpn you are using then
[16:52] <demophobia> 'k thanks bekks
[16:52] <bekks> icecool: openvpn
[16:52] <icecool> i follow you bekks
[16:53] <jhutchins> SeaCalf_: The best that can be said of clam is that it meets the requirements of having "antivirus software" installed if you get security audits.  It doesn't do much good even for Windows files.  For a Linux fileserver that serves Windows clients you're far better off running a good Windows AV program on the clients.
[16:54] <jhutchins> Last I checked, AVG had a free (and a commercial) linux product, and they get pretty good ratings.
[16:55] <SeaCalf_> jhutchins thanks , i will try AVG for linux someday when i feel like using antivirus software
[16:55] <linXea> I need help connecting to my university VPN (openconnect / anyconnect). The connection is established and IP is assigned to interface vpn0. The issue is that my datatraffic is NOT routed over vpn0 interface but instead still on wlan0 with my home IP.  What do I need to do? I assume I need to set another gateway (if up choose vpn0 over wlan0).. I have no idea how to do that. I am using network-manager-gnome with plugin for openconnect. Same problem wit
[16:55] <linXea> h ciscos proprietary Anyconnect mobility secure client.  http://pastie.org/8688415 <-- all the info I could think of is in this pastie
[16:59] <pip__> samba or nfs for sharing files to ubuntu and windows machines?
[16:59] <pip__> from an ubuntu server
[16:59] <bekks> pip__: Unless you windows supports nfs, you have to use samba.
[17:00] <pip__> bekks: having problems getting samba to share to another ubuntu rig at the mo
[17:00] <pip__> bekks: think I'm on for a reinstall & start from scratch again
[17:02] <linXea> hm, show us your /etc/samba/smb.conf  and output of # sudo smbtree
[17:02] <bekks> pip__: Ubuntu is not Windows. Just fix the problems.
[17:03] <pip__> bekks: lol, I'm reinstalling cos I'm making things worse everytime I fiddle with the thing
[17:03] <bekks> pip__: Dont fiddle, repair.
[17:03] <pip__> bekks: okay then, my repairs are making matters worse
[17:04] <pip__> bekks: yesterday i had a permissions problem, now my directories don't exist
[17:04] <bekks> pip__: So you removed them?
[17:05] <bekks> pip__: And which "my directories"?
[17:05] <bekks> !details | pip__
[17:05] <pip__> bekks: nope, they're visible, on screen
[17:05] <bekks> pip__: Define "they".
[17:05] <pip__> it's a long story:
[17:05] <bekks> pip__: Dont expect us to know what you are talking about unless you tell us the details :)
[17:06] <bekks> pip__: Shorten it up, into one sentence.
[17:06] <linXea> this channel used to be more helpful. Ive asked three times aldready today and not a single response.
[17:06] <bekks> linXea: Because no one knows an answer, most likely.
[17:07] <pip__> I have a second hdd containing 2 folders I want to share up til todays disaster I could click on them but not mount them - permission denied
[17:07] <linXea> even with sudo pip__ ?
[17:07] <pip__> ubun tu 13.10 64 bit desktop, sharing to another rig running the same OS
[17:07] <pip__> linXea: h'mm, not tried that
[17:08] <bekks> pip__: Use an editor and the samba configuration for sharing files, not clicking anything.
[17:08] <bekks> !samba | pip__
[17:08] <pip__> linXea: could that be why my shares are not persistent after a restart?
[17:08] <DKFermi> Hi, I have a TP x201 with integrated gobi2000 3G modem. Is there a way of permanently disabling the 3G and Bluetooth?
[17:08] <bekks> pip__: Yes.
[17:08] <pip__> bekks: yah, thought it was a bum config file
[17:08] <DKFermi> I can click in the notification bay area to disable both BT and the 3G but then it comes back on after a hard restart
[17:09] <bekks> pip__: It is. Because you didnt configure Samba at all until now.
[17:09] <pip__> bekks: i believe I'm best starting all over again
[17:09] <bekks> DKFermi: Thats expected.
[17:09] <linXea> pip__, if you want them persistent between computers running linux I would suggest using /etc/fstab to mount them at boot
[17:09] <bekks> pip__: I suggest you start reading the articles given.
[17:09] <TJ-> linXea: Is the VPN IPv4? Is it getting its address via DHCP? If so, is the DHCP server passing a default gateway? If so, is the client IPV4 configuration set to Method "Automatic (VPN)" or something else?
[17:09] <pip__> linXea: i got that working :)
[17:09] <DKFermi> my experience with disabling modules in the kernel is not that great - so any suggestions or help are appreciated
[17:10] <pip__> bekks: it's a new project, but I am floundering
[17:10] <TJ-> DKFermi: maybe 'rfkill'  ?
[17:10] <linXea> it is IPv4 and it is getting ip over  dhcp.
[17:10] <linXea> all that works
[17:10] <pip__> bekks: any pointers to an article a beginner can get to grips with?
[17:10] <bekks> pip__: There is no reason in reinstalling. You should just configure a samba server which will not happen when reinstalling.
[17:11] <DKFermi> TJ, thanks - i'll take a look at that
[17:11] <TJ-> linXea: Is it set to Method  "Automatic (VPN)" ?
[17:11] <linXea> yes
[17:11] <linXea> tried  both choices
[17:12] <TJ-> linXea: OK, that configuration means "if the DHCP server sends a default-gateway, use it" ... so look at "/var/log/syslog" to see whether that does report a default-gateway being received and set, or not
[17:12] <DKFermi> TJ, thanks that helped
[17:13] <DKFermi> what's the difference between soft and hard blocks?
[17:13] <Datz> Hi, I'm looking for a live cd that will fit on a cd-r.. preferably with ubuntu classic and not unity. does such a thing exist
[17:13] <Datz> ?
[17:13] <TJ-> DKFermi: "hard" means a physical switch, "soft" means in software
[17:13] <xangua> Datz: ubuntu no longer fits on a cd, I believe lubuntu still does
[17:13] <DKFermi> right - so I guess hard is impossible - since i can't turn it on/off in the bios
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> Datz: not any more
[17:14] <TJ-> Datz: Only the mini.iso
[17:14] <Datz> awesome
[17:14] <Datz> thanks
[17:14] <linXea> TJ-, "Feb  1 18:12:51 thinkpad NetworkManager[750]: <warn> /sys/devices/virtual/net/vpn0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring..! this seem odd.
[17:14] <pip__> bekks:uninstall & reinstall samba then? As a start over.  Goodness only knows what I've done to smb.conf by now
[17:14] <floryn> hei cv lista cu parole folosite la facebook avezi?
[17:14] <bekks> pip__: No.
[17:14] <floryn> nu are nimeni?
[17:14] <bekks> pip__: Configure Samba. Dont uninstall. Dont reinstall. Configure.
[17:14] <Datz> they couldn't cut a few MB make you use a DVD-R..
[17:14] <TJ-> linXea: Can you pastebin the syslog ?
[17:14] <pip__> bekks:wow, you're persistent on this
[17:14] <slimjimflim> pip__
[17:15] <bekks> pip__: Yes, because everything else is pointless.
[17:15] <floryn> hei aveti?
[17:15] <slimjimflim> pip__: did you get banned from ##linux-coders?
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | slimjimflim
[17:15] <floryn> noo password facebook list
[17:15] <pip__> slimjimflim: nope, don't do coding
[17:16] <DKFermi> another question. I regularly have hang ups of my graphics chip, freezing and once I choose terminal mode it shows drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed
[17:16] <pip__> slimjimflim: i can't configure samba, let alone code
[17:16] <linXea> TJ-,  http://pastie.org/8689123
[17:16] <slimjimflim> pip__: i must be thinking of a different pip
[17:16] <DKFermi> does that mean my graphic chip is acting up or is this a config issue?
[17:16] <pip__> slimjimflim: it's possible, I had to tweak my nick cos sum other pip had it
[17:17] <TJ-> linXea: "Feb  1 18:12:52 thinkpad NetworkManager[750]: <info>   Forbid Default Route: yes"
[17:17] <linXea> I saw that.
[17:17] <pip__> bekks:okay, back to the samba docs again it is
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> !ro | floryn
[17:18] <floryn> daa
[17:18] <pip__> i shall return to torment you all with my samba woes
[17:18] <pip__> but now...
[17:18] <pip__> dinner
[17:18] <pip__> adios
[17:18] <floryn> hei /hitsujiTMO
[17:19] <floryn> nu vb cu mn?
[17:19] <bekks> floryn: Is that some kind of code?
[17:20] <floryn> password linst facebook please
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> floryn: sorry, i don't understand romainian. try #ubuntu-ro
[17:20] <floryn> password list?
[17:20] <bekks> floryn: wrong channel.
[17:20] <OerHeks> 12345
[17:20] <DJones> floryn: Just use your password to login to your account
[17:20] <TJ-> linXea: So, the VPN does *not* allow default routing, which is why it adds so many static routes, so there is nothing wrong with the configuration
[17:21] <linXea> so I need to specify one of those static routes manually ?
[17:21] <TJ-> linXea: what for?!
[17:22] <linXea> I need to be able to surf the web on university vpn, since I cannot access library resources without them
[17:23] <TJ-> linXea: The VPN is for access to *internal* resources only, not for gateway-ing  to the outside world
[17:23] <glitsj16> hellow people
[17:24] <TJ-> linXea: the default route set-up for your local Internet access will be used for everything else, as it should be.
[17:24] <linXea> TI want the internet route to be used for interface vpn0, as it has been for years.
[17:25] <linXea> surfing the web like I were physically on the university
[17:25] <TJ-> linXea: You can't, that's why they specifically deny a default route. See https://internt.slu.se/en/services/it/support/gor-sa-har/vpn-anyconnect/
[17:26] <linXea> they have two instances.. internal and external use of vpn.
[17:26] <TJ-> linXea: Then ask the IT support desk, they'll know the specifics of their network and its operating policies
[17:27] <linXea> it works just fine on my phone as well as through vbox with windows XP running here
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> linXea: is it also setting a proxy?
[17:28] <linXea> I changed a few settings and "NetworkManager[750]: <info>   Forbid Default Route: yes" disappeared
[17:29] <TJ-> linXea: aaaah! " I changed a few settings" .... reset those changes maybe?
[17:30] <linXea> did that, still no luck.
[17:30] <linXea> might try with proxy settings..
[17:30] <linXea> never did that before though
[17:30] <TJ-> linXea: in the VPN configuration dialog, on the IPv4 Address tab, Change the selection from "Basic" to "Routes" and then *uncheck* "Use only for resources on this connection"
[17:31] <linXea> thats exactly what I did 2 min ago and the warning dissapear.
[17:31] <TJ-> linXea: Then syslog should show the new connection establishes a default route
[17:32] <linXea> http://pastie.org/8689163
[17:33] <TJ-> linXea: Is your local clock out of sync, or mine? Latest minutes value is :18 in your logs but here its :33 (I'm on GMT not CET)
[17:34] <linXea> hm, in terminal they seem out of sync but not in GUI
[17:34] <linXea> thats odd
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> linXea: """If you are using a Mac you must also configure the proxy settings in your web browser. Read the guide in the right-hand column!""" suggests there's a proxy involved that may not be auto configured for you
[17:35] <linXea> $ date  <-- show the correct time
[17:37] <linXea> holy... proxy was the problem. Didnt even consider that  >_<
[17:37] <TJ-> linXea: OK, I've found the problem, it's a bug in Network-Manager's route handling code
[17:38] <TJ-> linXea: If you configure a proxy that'll be only for HTTP/HTTPS ... if you want true default routing then you need to work around the NM bug
[17:38] <linXea> so it is a "real" BUG as well ?
[17:38] <TJ-> linXea: what version of Ubuntu is it?
[17:38] <linXea> okay, that explain why my dual boot with gentoo still works like a champ with same settings.
[17:38] <linXea> 13.10
[17:39] <linXea> System:    Host thinkpad Kernel 3.11.0-15-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop Unity 7.1.2  Distro Ubuntu 13.10 saucy
[17:40] <linXea> http/https is more then enough for me to gain access to library resources. Thanks a bunch. I will have en eye open for a solution for "true" default routing over vpn-openconnect (anyconnect)
[17:41] <JeanSolPartre> qui parle français merci
[17:41] <bekks> !fr | JeanSolPartre
[17:42] <JeanSolPartre> je merci
[17:42] <TJ-> linXea: See https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2010-August/msg06524.html
[17:42] <splex> hello there, I'd like to ask whether openjdk-6 (or openjdk-7) is free or open-source. that is, how Oracle-free it is.
[17:43] <TJ-> linXea: patch developed and discussed at RedHat https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=621698
[17:44] <TJ-> linXea: so we go back to the fact that if the VPN *server* provides explicit routes then the *proper* response *must* be to *not* set a default route, so in fact, it is doing precisely what it ought to. The bug is in the user expectation and lack of information in the GUI
[17:46] <TJ-> linXea: Static routes are pointless if the VPN connection is the default route, so the university obviously do not want it used as a default route.
[17:47] <fieldfirst> In Apparmor status I have got "processes are unconfined but have a profile defined" what does it suppose to mean ? --
[17:48] <TJ-> fieldfirst: It means the policy is not being enforced
[17:48] <fieldfirst> Thanks, I am trying to enforcing the nginx
[17:55] <DKFermi> -quit
[17:55] <fieldfirst> Can anyone help to generate the nginx profile for Apparmor ? I have tried with genprof but, it doesn't work
[18:00] <madyourse> Hi
[18:11] <nobody08> my xubuntu with Xfce Windows... operating in complete silence. no sound on starting up or shutting down.  Though the on board sound system is functioning fine, I can play video with sound.
[18:11] <nobody08> please help.
[18:13] <prasoonatwork> Good Evening All, i am not able to boot into windows 7 after upgraing from ubuntu 1304 to 1310,,, i have 64bit version
[18:13] <prasoonatwork> can i get some assistance ??
[18:15] <bekks> !dualboot | prasoonatwork
[18:20] <tortue> hi every body
[18:20] <tortue> I needed to install Maya on my computer
[18:20] <daftykins> and now?
[18:20] <tortue> but I'm using ubuntu like much of you
[18:21] <prasoonatwork> ubottu: i already had windows 7. i tried using boot repair. and this is what i got "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856491/"
[18:21] <tortue> the installation of Maya failed and now I have much of my packages broken
[18:22] <daftykins> tortue: can you pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu.com ) the output of 'sudo apt-get -f install' running in a terminal?
[18:22] <prasoonatwork> ubottu: i am not an expert in linux... so i hope you might understand what i am facing though...
[18:22] <giacy> ciaooo
[18:24] <prasoonatwork> bekks: i am not an expert in linux...i already had windows 7. i tried using boot repair. and this is what i got "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856491/"
[18:25] <faust1002> hello
[18:25] <tortue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856641/
[18:26] <tortue> it tells me something like backbuner.sw.bas needs to be reinstalled
[18:27] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: windows is always doing something funky read writes with the hard drive even when sitting idle. Linux don't do that.
[18:27] <FuuqUmiist> is this the official help channel or just a fan club?
[18:28] <prasoonatwork> madyourse: can you please help
[18:28] <FuuqUmiist> only people who actually help should be ops
[18:28] <darkxploit> hello guysssss
[18:29] <darkxploit> whats up ...
[18:29] <FuuqUmiist> prasoonatwork there should be a way to fix the grub, which sucks on linux, but i don't know how
[18:29] <tortue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856659/
[18:29] <DJones> 18:27 < FuuqUmiist> is this the official help channel or just a fan club?
[18:29] <tortue> ok daftyKings, I've pasted it
[18:30] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: I never had any luck messing with grub
[18:30] <DJones> Grr, stupid mouse
[18:30] <daftykins> tortue: there should've been a lot more than that
[18:30] <tortue> sorry, it is all my shell aswers
[18:31] <prasoonatwork> i have a paste from the BOOT REPAIR "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856491/"...
[18:31] <FuuqUmiist> most of my major problems with ubuntu always tend to be because the grub messes up
[18:31] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: I think while booting linux tapping the tab key may bring up the linux grub menu. On that it may have windows on the menu.
[18:32] <nisim> heloo i have philips freevents x56 downloaded ubuntu 12.04 lts.No sound speakers not working did all nothing helps please need help here
 yes i have the menu but when i select it and hit enter it will not boot to windows ,,, check this paste from Boot Repair application,,,"http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856491/"
[18:34] <daftykins> tortue: what's reporting broken packages then?
  a cursour will just blink ... and do nothing...
[18:36] <faust1002> I have stupid problem, I going to use ISE from Xilinx. It provides old version of libstdc++ and enforces standard gcc to use it. Ofcource gcc fails. Sylinks don't work, google also. Any ideas?
[18:36] <bekks> faust1002: Whats "ISE"?
[18:37] <aidalgol> How do I change the event that the power button triggers (outside of a DE)?
[18:37] <faust1002> bekks: http://www.xilinx.com/products/design-tools/ise-design-suite/ise-webpack.htm, for FPGAs
[18:37] <bekks> aidalgol: By reprogramming the BIOS.
[18:38] <tortue> should i oblige to reinstall all my system cause some of my packages are broken?
[18:39] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: maybe use windows install disk then if that fixes it. You may not be able to boot into linux. I always used a windows program called easybcd. But linux grub needs to be installed to root directory of install  not root of drive
[18:41] <aidalgol> bekks: There's no OS-side ACPI configuration?
 : that is a problem... i use linux as my primary OS... only for certain windows only application i switch to it. is there any other work around ??
[18:42] <nisim> heloo i have philips freevents x56 downloaded ubuntu 12.04 lts.No sound speakers not working did all nothing helps please need help here
[18:42] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: easybcd uses windows boot menu to select operating system. But again the linux boot grub either during install needs to be placed in the root directory of install. Not the root of the drive. I found it much easier to recover failures like yours.
[18:42] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: easybcd uses windows boot menu to select operating system. But again the linux boot grub either during install needs to be placed in the root directory of install or after install. Not the root of the drive. I found it much easier to recover failures like yours.
[18:43] <prasoonatwork> madyourse: can explain how i should proceed ??
[18:44] <arun_> guys where can I get wifi drivers of ASUS X45C ??
[18:44] <djural> ls
[18:45] <stefg> !wifi
[18:47] <daftykins> arun_: what's the wireless hardware on that model?
[18:52] <dangucci> hello i have setup pptp on ubuntu server authenticating with radius server but  i will like to throttle internet speed for some clients connected to the vpn .. any help in the form of scripts or radius supported attributes
[18:53] <kiik> suniko
[18:56] <delac> anyone who knows how to set up Canon MG3500 printer?
[18:57] <whoever> delac: what have you done so far to set it up
[18:59] <whoever> delac: what have you done so far to set it up
[19:02] <bekks> ubuntutis: Please keep your support issues in this channel, do not carry them to my query, unasked.
[19:04] <sambagirl> test
[19:05] <dangucci> hello i have setup pptp on ubuntu server authenticating with radius server but  i will like to throttle internet speed for some clients connected to the vpn .. any help in the form of scripts or radius supported attributes
[19:06] <whoever> dangucci: i would look at iptables
[19:07] <dangucci> ok my pptp remote range is 5.5.0.0/24 hw will i please use iptables to limit speed in that subnet
[19:09] <whoever> dangucci: oh its homework, we don't like doing our own, and the point of homework is for you to learn something, so  we will point you in the direction of the anster
[19:09] <whoever> *answer
[19:10] <whoever> dangucci: and your homework you says  "use iptables to limit speed", and I pointed you tward iptables
[19:16] <Ruby_Vroom> hi all
[19:16] <darkxploit> hello guys. can u tell me what and how do i proceed, if i want to set up a system where i will have a mail address admin@mywebsite.com and all mails received on the mail address to be transferred to a gmail .. also how do i do to get a mail address admin@mywebsite.com . i got a VPS running ubuntu server..
[19:17]  * Ruby_Vroom is SUPER new to ubuntu/linux
[19:17] <daftykins> Ruby_Vroom: do you have a question?
[19:17] <darkxploit> Ruby_Vroom: you are going to enjoy I'm sure
[19:17] <Ruby_Vroom> daftykins yes - i'm trying to a wireless adapter working
[19:18] <daftykins> darkxploit: it'd make more sense to sign up to google apps or something similar, rather than administer that yourself
[19:18] <eoo> any ubuntu probs
[19:18] <darkxploit> daftykins:  i already got my website running on the VPS
[19:19] <daftykins> darkxploit: sure a website, but a mail server? little bit different :D
[19:19] <Ruby_Vroom> eoo i have a ubuntu 13.10 prob getting wifi working
[19:19] <NictraSavios> When I go to add a new printer I get "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall.", how do I remove this error?
[19:19] <darkxploit> daftykins: can't i set up something so that every mails is transferred directly to the gmail without the user know about it
[19:20] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: is the wifi cart seen by ubuntu
[19:20] <NictraSavios> I do not have a firewall installed, unless one is installed by default.
[19:20] <faust1002> bye
[19:20] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever it's a usb dongle
[19:20] <eoo> Ruby_Vroom: tell me about it
[19:20] <daftykins> darkxploit: you'd be better off going into your domain's control panel and creating a mail forwarder to point to your other address
[19:20] <shahhena95> how do i set up KDE environment on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[19:20] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: ok, is it seen by ubuntu
[19:20] <daftykins> darkxploit: no point receiving email only to send it out again ;)
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> ok all, here's the deal: i bought the edimax mini usb dongle adapter for a windows machine, decided to install ubuntu
[19:21] <eoo> ok
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> i researched and looked up drivers
[19:21] <darkxploit> daftykins: have u heard of sendmail ?/.. what is that?.. is it what I'm really looking here
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> got a deb pkg installer from google code
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> brought the tower down, hooked it up to wired internet and installed fine
[19:21] <daftykins> darkxploit: like i say, what you're trying to do is a bad way to go about things. a forwarder would work better
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> unplugged it and left the edimax usb in and it was working fine
[19:21] <Beldar> Ruby_Vroom, Can you run in the terminal lsusb in ubuntu with the adapter plugged in and give any wifi info there to the channel.
[19:22] <Ruby_Vroom> took it upstairs and reconnected it to it's respective monitor and boom - no wifi?
[19:22] <shahhena95> someone please help !:-(
[19:22] <Brutus|> shahhena95: KDE is in the software center, if you open that you can install KDE
[19:22] <Ruby_Vroom> yes, i'll run upstairs and do that
[19:22] <eoo> no signal?
[19:22] <Brutus|> shahhena95: log off and on the lockscreen you should be able to change to KDE
[19:22] <whoever> rewtraw: how is your signal
[19:22] <Brutus|> shahhena95: KDE is called kubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <darkxploit> daftykins: ok i got your point now.. but what about sending someone a mail with a mail address like xxx@mywebsite.com
[19:22] <NictraSavios> !enter | Ruby_Vroom
[19:23] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: sounds like a signal straingth issue
[19:23] <shahhena95> ohh okay ..!
[19:23] <Brutus|> shahhena95: Can't make it any easier then that :)
[19:23] <shahhena95> thank you so much :-)
[19:23] <daftykins> darkxploit: the 'from' address?
[19:23] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: it worked fine with windows though....same situation, just diff OS
[19:23] <Brutus|> shahhena95: No problem at all
[19:23] <shahhena95> Brutus| : Thank you:-)
[19:24] <darkxploit> daftykins: yeahhh like i own a website.com …. i would like to have daftykins@mywebsite.com
[19:24] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: there may not be support for it in ubuntu 13.x
[19:24] <Brutus|> Ruby_Vroom: beldar asked you to run lsusb in the terminal
[19:24] <Brutus|> should output the attached USB drives
[19:25] <darkxploit> daftykins: so that when u verify your mail u see its from my domain
[19:25] <daftykins> darkxploit: you can configure a gmail account with a 'send as' user@domain.com if you go into the settings
[19:25] <eoo> lsusb lists usb devices
[19:25] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: this is linux not windows
[19:25] <darkxploit> daftykins: you are a genius i did not know that
[19:25] <Brutus|> darkxploit: he is
[19:25] <p3rsist> How can I use rysnc to sync rooted remote and local folders and using a user ssh passworded private key without the shell prompting for the password?
[19:26] <Ruby_Vroom> lsusb report shows it recognizes the edimax
[19:26] <darkxploit> p3rsist: thatss very interesting indeed
[19:26] <rudjgaard> hi guys, I am having trouble upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10, someone willing to help me out?
[19:26] <roothorick> "linux-signed-image-3.13.0-6-generic"
[19:26] <darkxploit> rudjgaard: apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:26] <rudjgaard> i know
[19:26] <roothorick> am I right in thinking this means Ubuntu will actually be doing secure boot correctly? What keyset do I need in my firmware to take advantage of this?
[19:26] <rudjgaard> but update manager is crashing
[19:26] <rudjgaard> whenb launching upgrade
[19:26] <rudjgaard> this is the error
[19:26] <darkxploit> rudjgaard: what do u mean by crashing
[19:26] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975615
[19:26] <Beldar> Ruby_Vroom, we want more than the name, we want the exact info shown by lsusb.
[19:27] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: i don't understand why the signal would be ok on win and not on linux.
[19:27] <whoever> eoo: it appently is verry sinsitive  to signal
[19:27] <p3rsist> darkxploit: this is what I have for now: sudo rsync --hard-links --sparse --numeric-ids --delete -azhe\
[19:27] <p3rsist>   "ssh -i $HOME/.ssh/id_rsa" --rsync-path="sudo rsync"\
[19:27] <p3rsist>   $USER@remote:/root/test /
[19:27] <Ruby_Vroom> beldar: i'll have to run upstairs and write it all down then - i'm on my downstairs win7 machine since i can't get internet on the ubuntu machine
[19:28] <rudjgaard> I mean the gdk window will close after clicking upgrade and after downloading the release installer
[19:28] <darkxploit> p3rsist: its alien to me for the time being..
[19:28] <rudjgaard> OSError: Can not execute '/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-dohyyg/saucy
[19:29] <rudjgaard> (this is usually caused by a system where /tmp "
[19:30] <rudjgaard> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'window_main'
[19:30] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: there are signal strenght issues with it, so it most likly is not going to be reliable , but keep tring hope she works for you
[19:31] <eoo> i think ive used an edimax one before
[19:31] <eoo> on a raspberry pi with no probs
[19:31] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: crap. thanks! i'm reading that link....perhaps i'll run wire in the meantime
[19:32] <p3rsist> Hi guys. Under 13.10, what's the correct way to hold an ssh private key password? gpg ? ssh-agent?
[19:32] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: here you go, this is someones stepst that got theirs working, but assume, you have done them http://askubuntu.com/questions/79818/edimax-ew-7811un-usb-wireless-sees-network-but-fails-to-connect-to-it
[19:32] <darkxploit> rudjgaard:  ok i go it
[19:33] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: there are a couple different dounges that will work, that will cost you less then a 50' cable
[19:33] <darkxploit> rudjgaard: i think you should modify the repository
[19:33] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: i did try those steps.  please share! i'm willing to hunt down another dongle.  i just grabbed this one because of rave reviews and a $10 pricetag
[19:34] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: if this is a desktop you generally will get better results with a card then a dongle
[19:34] <dangucci> hello i have setup pptp on ubuntu server authenticating with radius server but  i will like to throttle internet speed for some clients connected to the vpn .. any help in the form of scripts or radius supported attributes
[19:34] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: in my experience 10 bucks and linux spells issues
[19:34] <darkxploit> rudjgaard: noooo I'm lost.. too difficult for me
[19:35] <whoever> how ever worthe a shot , i would had done the same
[19:35] <pcdoctor> Hello everyone I am a new ubuntu user
[19:35] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: ha, good to know. :)  like i said, this is my first attempt with linux.
[19:35] <pcdoctor> I need lots of help
[19:35] <roothorick> okay
[19:35] <roothorick> how do I install the Ubuntu PKpub?
[19:35] <rudjgaard> hmmm i already tried changing repo, i was on main server then switched to the search best one
[19:35] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:35] <pcdoctor> has anyone used firestorm viewer on ubuntu?
[19:36] <plop6669> hello
[19:36] <roothorick> oh! I don't need it to be
[19:36] <roothorick> so this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot is what's currently implemented in Trusty, right?
[19:37] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: for what it is worth i ditched windows about the time win7 came out, so i have a good idea of what apps will be an equilelant to the M$ ones
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> !find firestorm
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> pcdoctor  what's firestorm?
[19:38] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: if your a gammer, you will want a windows box (not a vm of windows )
[19:38] <pcdoctor> it's a client within the second life grid
[19:38] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: but othere then that most can be accomplshed just fine on liux
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> pcdoctor  great, and what's the second life grid?
[19:39] <osl> hello. i just toasted an old toshiba and am trying to learn how to install (get a Live OS up) over the network. this toshiba will not boot from USB, CD/DVD, etc. and i'm stuck at a "grub rescue>" screen. which solution is best on this page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server_and_network_installations)?
[19:39] <pcdoctor> http://www.secondlife.com
[19:40] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: did/are you reading the last link i posted about cards
[19:40] <pcdoctor> it's a virtual world
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> pcdoctor  some kind of game, is it?
[19:40] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: i'm not a gamer but son is and it's his box
[19:41] <Ruby_Vroom> but he's 10, so it's mostly steam stuff.  reading now...
[19:41] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: you can dual boot it, or in the windows os create a vm of ubuntu
[19:41] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: don't forget "Daddy knows whats best" when he starts asking why
[19:42] <pcdoctor> yes
[19:42] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: ha, Mom you mean. ;)
[19:43] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: ah, though her under the bus or was this her idea
[19:43] <pcdoctor> I also need to fix my printer driver too.  It's listed in my printer settings but I can't seem to print
[19:43]  * Ruby_Vroom is Ma Dukes
[19:44] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: and if anything goes wrong blame the family member you least like(or want your son to not like )
[19:44] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: this link is for broadcom drivers only?
[19:44] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: yes broadcom is a big player, so there stuff is easier to get working
[19:45] <whoever> they are different model not makes
[19:45] <Ruby_Vroom> kk i'll dig up some broadcom stuff
[19:45] <whoever> sorrry for the confustion thee
[19:45] <whoever> *there
[19:45] <Ruby_Vroom> seems easier to just run a cable than mess with all this stuff though
[19:46] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: seeems , i have done it too, yes more direct, but "unsigtly" say the gf
[19:46] <plop6669> hello
[19:48] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: unsightly at the cost of having internet. :)  how's the gf like using the library? lol
[19:48] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: i tried that one, she busted my balls on that  one
[19:49] <Beldar> whoever, This is a world wide channel, try to keep it clean please. ;)
[19:49] <whoever> Beldar: sorry
[19:50] <pcdoctor> how do I update/install printer drivers in ubuntu 13.10?
[19:51] <whoever> they are different model not makes
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> !cups | pcdoctor start here
[19:54] <osl> is it possible to repair grub on machine_2 over the network? or boot boot-repair-disk on machine_2 over a network? machine_2 is unbootable.
[19:55] <tunage> my ubuntu apache vhost is failing. I get  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts  on restart. httpd.conf  http://sprunge.us/BgRN  sites-available config  http://sprunge.us/dQIg
[19:57] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: my buddy has 2 edimax adapters working on ubuntu laptops - so frustrating!
[19:58] <ffff> how can i figure out what ip address to allow w/ ufw if i want to be able to ssh w/ a server?
[19:59] <ffff> in other words, figure out what my ip address is.
[19:59] <ffff> i've done ifconfig, looked in system prefs, and checked my router settings-all the ip addresses on those are the same, but when i allow them on ufw it still doesn't work.
[19:59] <pcdoctor> pages not working
[20:00] <ffff> i've also accounted for subnet mask by doing x.y.z.0/24
[20:00] <tunage> ffff what are you trying to do?
[20:00] <FuuqUmiist> what is the shortcut to decorate and undecorate windows
[20:01] <ffff> tunage: sercure my server and make it so only my ip address can ssh into the ssh port.
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> ffff  use gufw
[20:03] <tunage> ffff iptables or hosts.allow /hosts.deny
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> ffff  and fwbuilder is more advanced
[20:03] <ffff> MonkeyDust: i don't need to change tools. ufw is perfectly fine, i've allowed denied access to all ports i need, and allowed only 80 and 433.
[20:03] <ffff> *i've denied access
[20:03] <TJ-> ffff: "iptables -P DROP && iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -s $YOUR_PUBLIC_IP -j ACCEPT" would be the basics; You can work that into ufw language
[20:04] <ffff> tunage: my understanding is ufw is a wrapper around iptables, and ufw is much easier to understand than iptables.
[20:04] <ffff> TJ-: oh i already know the ufw language, it's ufw allow from x.y.z.0/24 to any port 22
[20:04] <tunage> ffff exact same rules.
[20:04] <ffff> and if i only wanted the ssh protocol it'd be "to any port 22/ssh" or something like that
[20:04] <ffff> but my problem is
[20:05] <ffff> i don't know how to find the right ip address
[20:05] <TJ-> ffff: So see if "iptables -nvL INPUT" matches what you *think* ufw is doing
[20:05] <ffff> if i do ufw allow 22, i can ssh in through that port
[20:05] <ffff> TJ-: okay i'll try that
[20:05] <tunage> ffff post your iptables-save
[20:06] <rudjgaard> can anybody help with this error while upgrading release? OSError: Can not execute '/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-dohyyg/saucy'  During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
[20:06] <TJ-> ffff: If what you're asking for is how to get your own public IP address, do "wget -qO- http://ipecho.net/plain ; echo"
[20:07] <ffff> TJ-: here's my iptables -nvL INPUT: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/82e721163116c3127644
[20:07] <ffff> tunage: i typed iptables-save and nothing returned
[20:07] <ffff> TJ-: i need to put my external ip address not my interal one?
[20:08] <FuuqUmiist> does anyone know?
[20:08] <tunage> anyone here nifty with apache vhost? my ubuntu apache vhost is failing. I get  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts  on restart. httpd.conf  http://sprunge.us/BgRN  sites-available config  http://sprunge.us/dQIg  and I did use the a2ensite tool to initialize the subdomain
[20:09] <Aleksander> I'd like to install Ubuntu 13.10 on a LUKS/LVM prepared by myself, is there a simple way to configure newly-installed kernel to decrypt the root partition during boot?
[20:09] <tunage> ffff then you're not using iptables.  :/
[20:09] <ffff> tunage: i'm using ufw, would using that count as what you think of as "using iptables"?
[20:10] <tunage> ffff if it's a wrapper for iptables, it's missing the core. I know iptables very well.
[20:10] <TJ-> tunage: See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#namevirtualhost
[20:10] <ffff> TJ-: fuck! it was my external ip address that i needed to add. thanks soo much!
[20:11] <ffff> TJ-: i have another question tho, isn't my external ip dynamic?
[20:11] <ffff> tunage: well i don't know enough about ufw to tell you how it's using iptables. maybe it's a replacement.
[20:13] <Beldar> ffff, Just a heads up but this is a no swearing channel. ;)
[20:13] <bekks> ufw is a frontend for iptables.
[20:14] <ffff> Beldar: oh really? this is the first no wearing channel i've joined then.
[20:14] <ffff> Beldar: my apoligies, unless this is a prank that happens on rookies or something.
[20:14] <tunage> TJ- the only difference between that link and my directive is VirtualHost 1.2.3.4:80 because mine is VirtualHost *:80  for a very good reason and I have discussed this with #httpd. It should be *. This same exact directive with a minor subdomain name change is the only difference on a gentoo server. I really don't think it's the directive.
[20:14] <ffff> bekks: not sure the term "frontend" clarifies much for me.
[20:15] <Androo> Trying to learn upstart.  What might I look to when I have an upstart script in /etc/init that, while working fine with "service start <name>", won't start at boot?  I have "start on runlevel 2345" and "stop at runlevel 6" in the service's upstart config.
[20:15] <ffff> bekks: it's cool tho, i don't always need to know everything.
[20:15] <tunage> bekks why is it missing iptables-save? it's on my default install of ubuntu.
[20:15] <bekks> tunage: define "it" please.
[20:15] <ffff> bekks: me
[20:15] <ffff> bekks: why am i missing iptables-save
[20:16] <tunage> bekks same issue
[20:16] <TJ-> tunage: Have you run "apache2ctl configtest" ?
[20:17] <tunage>  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[20:17] <tunage> Syntax OK
[20:17] <TJ-> tunage: So, you haven't got a vhost matching that
[20:18] <bekks> tunage: whats the relationship between ufw and your missing iptables file?
[20:18] <loa> what i can use for sticky notes under ubuntu?
[20:19] <sh0t> hi guys how do you access skype chat logs o Linux/ubuntu without using skype...
[20:19] <TJ-> ffff: "which iptables-save"
[20:19] <ffff> TJ-: it's all good, i just need to figure out if using my external ip is going to stab me in the back if in the future it changes in which case i won't be able to ssh back in.
[20:20] <loa> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/steam-source-2-left-4-dead-2-valve-powerpoint,news-47060.html
[20:20] <Guest57109> anyone know any good applications for ubuntu
[20:20] <tunage> TJ- correct. I changed it to peacecoin.digitaldriller.com
[20:20] <wrapash> To do what, Guest57109?
[20:21] <Guest57109> anything just general applications
[20:21] <tunage> bekks iptables-save dumps your firewall rules and counters
[20:21] <bekks> tunage: I know - I just dont see any relation to my statement that ufw uses iptables.
[20:21] <airsoftmodels> Guest57109: world of goo is a fun game
[20:21] <TJ-> tunage: Is it working now?
[20:22] <tunage> bekks if it's missing, you are missing half of iptables.  :/
[20:22] <wrapash> Guest57109: also check for "xonotic"
[20:22] <bud1978> hi!!!
[20:24] <tunage> TJ- no sir, I adjusted the servername and added the domain in virtualhost, same exact error. http://sprunge.us/NaYi
[20:24] <TJ-> ffff: Correct; you'll probably need to get a static IP, or else go the proper way and configure the server with a VPN, such as openvpn
[20:24] <wrapash> Guest57109: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_Applications
[20:24] <Golynx> Guest57109: Ubuntu Software Center got alot to choose from
[20:26] <ffff> TJ-: there's a script to ping the hostname periodically and if the ip address changed update the firewall: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91701/ufw-allow-traffic-only-from-a-domain-with-dynamic-ip-address this is really icky
[20:28] <tunage> ffff hypothetically, no. you're crossing layers which is really bad and unreliable. practically, you could play tricks with dynamic dns and nagios
[20:28] <tunage> ffff or even snort.
[20:29] <ffff> tunage: can't tell if snort is a tool or if you literally mean snort.
[20:30] <tunage> snort is a very extensive tool. it uses plugins like snot and mucus too.  http://snort.org/
[20:30] <pitoow> How do I enable MP3 preview on 12.04?
[20:31] <ffff> tunage i'm looking into a vpn right now. TJ-: can i setup openvpn on a remote server? or does it have to be a home server?
[20:34] <tunage> ffff a vpn is a layer 2 application. layer 2 does 'not' know word like kat or sighup or domain. only numbers like ip addresses
[20:34] <TJ-> ffff: I use openvpn, it means I can do router-to-router and client-to-router connections at the same time
[20:35] <Imdsm> Hi guys, I have a GTX 550 Ti, and have just installed 13.10. When trying to install nvidia's drivers, I now have a black screen. I know this is a very common problem, but I'm just wondering if 3rd party nvidia drivers are supported at the moment? Or is it just nouveau which works?
[20:36] <TJ-> tunage: VPN protocols can be layer 2 (bridged) or layer 3 (routed), depending on the specific implementation and configuration
[20:37] <ffff> tunage: i'm not sure why you explained that to me. why is that important to know?
[20:37] <ffff> TJ-: why would you want router-to-router connections if you yourself are always a client? it feels like to me you're allowing your router to have a better time w/o any benefits to oyu.
[20:38] <ffff> ah i'm such a noob and i love it.
[20:38] <tunage> ffff if you are trying to do anything with a hostname and trying to blend it with a layer 2 application, you have your hands full.
[20:38] <ffff> tunage: in other words it doesn't help me w/ my problem because it'd still need to use my external ip?
[20:38] <ffff> *my _dynamic_ external ip?
[20:39] <ffff> if that's the case, then TJ-, how would a vpn help me w/ my problem?
[20:40] <tunage> ffff on a static firewall, with static allow/deny, without a highlevel trick, you are going to lock yourself out. You need a better plan.
[20:40] <tunage> ffff or a static ip
[20:40] <ffff> tunage: f**k! this sucks. i guess a very small % of ppl have to deal w/ dynamic ips?
[20:40] <TJ-> tunage: To check the apache2 config, do this: "sudo sh -c '. /etc/apache2/envvars && apache2 -t -S -D DUMP_VHOSTS -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf'  "
[20:40] <ffff> tunage: what are some possible better plans?
[20:41] <ffff> tunage: how long would it take me to get a static ip? i would need to talk w/ my isp right?
[20:41] <Titanium> is there a fast way to open a terminal on ubuntu?
[20:42] <ffff> why isn't my static internal ip exposed? why do i have an external ip wrapping my internal one?
[20:43] <TJ-> ffff: You configure your (ssh) server with a VPN. You configure your PC with the same VPN in client mode... your PC then connects to the server's public IP address (possibly by hostname), and establishes the VPN. There is now a *private* subnet with your PC and the server on. You can then ssh to the server using the server's *private* VPN IP address
[20:43] <Golynx> Titanium: ctrl+alt+t
[20:43] <tunage> TJ- it appears to be correct.  http://paste.ee/p/sVWOJ
[20:43] <Titanium> thanks, il see if that works
[20:43] <ffff> " You can purchase a static external IP address, but they are incredibly expensive." schisca.
[20:43] <Titanium> its still loading video recommendations of movies with termainal in thename :(
[20:44] <tunage> ffff no, they don't try and lock out the world, that way. what is the purpose of your 'absolute blocks/denies?'
[20:44] <Akiva-Mobile> Why is this for loop now working in my terminal?
[20:44] <Akiva-Mobile> for i in {0..10..2}
[20:44] <Akiva-Mobile> when I echo i, it returns "{0..10..2}"
[20:45] <ffff> tunage: this is an absolulte allow actually, only allow my ip address to ssh into my server.
[20:45] <phenster> hey everyone
[20:45] <phenster> I have a question regarding adding users
[20:45] <ffff> tunage: what do you mean "they don't try and lock out the world"? are you talking about isps?
[20:45] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | phenster
[20:45] <ffff> TJ-: still reading what you said.
[20:45] <tunage> ffff so you are trying to protect ssh. switch to a non standard port or use knockd
[20:45] <TJ-> ffff: see for examples and explanations: http://www.shorewall.net/OPENVPN.html
[20:46] <ffff> tunage: already am using a non standard port, want to secure it more.
[20:46] <ffff> tunage: is knockd an alternative to fail2ban?
[20:46] <TJ-> tunage: "127.0.0.1:80 www.peacecoin.digitaldriller.com (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/peacecoin.digitaldriller.com:3)"
[20:46] <phenster> I want to make a "web" group and add a user to it. I perform a "groupadd web", but then when I try "useradd -g <username> web" I get error. what is the correct procedure? I want a grouo/user to create and own /var/www for Ruby web-applications.
[20:47] <Kroach> how do I upgrade from one LTS Hardware Enablement Stack to another?
[20:48] <TJ-> phenster: Use "adduser" ... it has easier forms such as "adduser <user> <group>"
[20:48] <tunage> ffff you shouldn't be seeing any attacks in your logs. this is where snort can really work. if you get a bunch of hits on a non standard port, that's live and you should know about it. you document the ip, you block it and switch the port again. if it persist, you have a much bigger problem you are dealing with. don't ignore your logs. this is basic security practices.
[20:49] <tunage> ffff knockd does have a fail rate though. you will need a back door.
[20:49] <ffff> TJ-: "your PC then connects to the server's public IP address (possibly by hostname), and establishes the VPN" if the server is a web server, meaning it's serving a web app, doesn't this mean all users of the app are going to be establishing a vpn?
[20:49] <ffff> TJ-: well actually doesn't it mean they wouldn't be able to establish a vpn because they don't have the client vpn setup?
[20:49] <Golynx> phenster: http://www.codephun.com/ubuntu-add-permissions-to-user-for-www-data/&q=set+recursive+permission+var/www&sa=X&ei=TcXnUvPXEvGv7AaM4YDYAg&ved=0CDsQFjAI
[20:49] <phenster> TJ-: I get "The user "..." does not exist" error.
[20:49] <tunage> TJ- where does that go?
[20:50] <phenster> Golynx: invalid URL - 404
[20:50] <ffff> tunage: oh god i have to watch the logs? that's not my definition of a good film.
[20:50] <AnthonyUK> Evening all, I installed linux on my homeserver but I have had problems getting my 2 tv tuner cards working, I did a install of linux on another computer and they all work. I was wondering is this down the motherboard drivers ?
[20:50] <TJ-> ffff: tunage You ought not to even expose ssh publicly unless there is no other way. VPNs provide security and ease of access to the entire remote server/network, not just SSH protocol.
[20:51] <tunage> ffff look into snort. somebody or something MUST be watching your logs ALWAYS!!!
[20:51] <TJ-> ffff: If you want to allow widespread access using ssh then the primary step is not to use passwords, only certificates for authentication.
[20:51] <bekks> AnthonyUK: No.
[20:51] <ffff> TJ-: already am using public/private keys.
[20:52] <bekks> ffff: Which is worthless without checking the logs regularly.
[20:52] <ffff> this is incredible, this is teh first time i'm settign up a server, and it looks like i did some damn good research.
[20:52] <AnthonyUK> bekks: one pc is intel the other amd, will that do it?
[20:52] <bekks> AnthonyUK: Sure.
[20:52] <chaotix> hi all...  so i am trying out midori web browser, and i like it, except for one problem.  i create a web app launcher for, say, facebook or gmail, and for some reason each time i close and open the launcher i have to re log-in....   is there any fix for this?
[20:52] <Golynx> http://www.codephun.com/ubuntu-add-permissions-to-user-for-www-data/
[20:53] <AnthonyUK> yikes
[20:53] <^charlie> is there a method for popping up a custom prompt during ubuntu installation, but before first boot?  i want to collect a string from the user and store it to a file for use after the installer reboots the system
[20:53] <phenster> Golynx: "sudo adducer <username> group" gives error of user NOT existing. do I create a user first, before adding it to a group? can I not do two together?
[20:53] <AnthonyUK> so basically if i want these tuners to all work in the same machine I have to make sure it is an intel computer
[20:53] <^charlie> i am using an unattended setup already for 12.04LTS
[20:53] <ffff> TJ-: do you want to address my concern about what happens if i setup a vpn on a web server?
[20:53] <TJ-> ffff: Good. Having a VPN gives you a safety-net for administrative access if ssh fails for some reason. I always run a 2nd sshd on the private LAN/VPN IPs of the server so even if the public IP bound sshd fails for some reason, I have full access.
[20:54] <tunage> TJ- where did you want me to apply that code?
[20:54] <TJ-> tunage: what code?
[20:54] <tunage> tunage: "127.0.0.1:80 www.peacecoin.digitaldriller.com (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/peacecoin.digitaldriller.com:3)"
[20:54] <bekks> AnthonyUK: No.
[20:54] <bekks> AnthonyUK: The TV tuner cards are not interested in the CPU of your computer.
[20:54] <tunage> TJ- it looks coorect to me
[20:54] <TJ-> tunage: You need to pay more attention to your own logs! I was quoting you your own output, which shows why the vhost isn't accessible
[20:55] <AnthonyUK> I have installed ubuntu about 20 times since last night, I am at aloss on how to get these cards properly detected
[20:55] <bekks> AnthonyUK: Make sure you get the correct drivers - the CPU is irrelevant.
[20:55] <tunage> TJ- those match
[20:55] <ffff> TJ-: so you could have a channel to ssh through publicly, and another channel to ssh through privatel behind the vpn firewally?
[20:55] <AnthonyUK> can I just copy drivers out of the 2nd test computer?
[20:55] <ffff> *firewall
[20:55] <tunage> TJ- I am not seeing the error.
[20:55] <TJ-> tunage: You do know what the IP address  "127.0.0.1" is?
[20:55] <bekks> phenster: First create the group, then the user, then add the user to the group.
[20:55] <phenster> bekks: thank you!
[20:56] <Golynx> phenster: create the group first then add the user
[20:56] <tunage> TJ- localhost. where is it pulling that from?
[20:56] <Golynx> Make sure you set the ownerships correctly too
[20:57] <TJ-> ffff: Yes, but not just for ssh. It means you could access other private services that aren't exposed to the public interface at all, such as private web services for administration, internal mail server relays, SNMP monitoring, and so on
[20:57] <TJ-> tunage: Because your VirtualHost and NameVirtualHost aren't matching any IP. What IPs is the apache daemon binding to?
[20:58] <ffff> TJ-: what are some examples of "web services for administration"? and internal mail server relays, they would still relay externally obviously right?
[20:58] <tunage> TJ- where does ubuntu apache bind the ip?
[20:58] <tunage> TJ- that 127.0.0.1 is coming from somewhere.
[20:58] <ffff> TJ-: so help me understand the "establishes the VPN" step more. i connect w/ the server's public ip or hostname, then what happens?
[20:59] <ffff> TJ-: do i connect on a specific port?
[21:00] <ffff> TJ- tunage also how often does a dynamic external ip address change? "Your home router IP address is very unlikely to change once it is established."
[21:00] <ffff> just found that quote online.
[21:02] <ffff> TJ- tunage and how does a guy like this do it? in the section titled "Set Up a Firewall" he says enter the cmd "ufw allow from {your-ip} to any port 22"
[21:02] <ffff> http://plusbryan.com/my-first-5-minutes-on-a-server-or-essential-security-for-linux-servers
[21:02] <TJ-> tunage: This is the kind of output you'd expect: http://pastebin.com/GWD6SSxw
[21:02] <AnthonyUK> back, I'm still at a loss to understand why installing ubuntu on one machine gets all the tuners detected while on the other machine I can only just about get one working but that is when the other pci card is removed, on top of that the dual tuner only shows up as one tuner
[21:03] <TJ-> ffff: The public IP of your home router is assigned by your ISP, and can change after your modem has disconnected for any reason
[21:03] <bekks> AnthonyUK: Which drivers in details did you use, which cards in details - without those details it is pointless to discuss why something happened you didnt describe in detail.
[21:03] <TJ-> AnthonyUK: Maybe the PCI bridges aren't wide enough?
[21:04] <TJ-> AnthonyUK: Try adding "pci=realloc" to the kernel's command-line
[21:06] <Es0teric> what is the best way to add a new user through the command line?
[21:06] <bekks> Es0teric: "adduser".
[21:06] <Es0teric> bekks yes but what are the best params to use?
[21:07] <bekks> Es0teric: There are "best" parameters. There are required and optional parameters.
[21:07] <bekks> *no best
[21:07] <TJ-> ffff: With OpenVPN the best operating mode is over the UDP protocol, using a TLS-Auth (TA) key to prevent DDOS. Then your VPN clients connect to port 1194 UDP on the servers' public IP(s), swap certificates for authentication, before the VPN is established. In routed (layer 3) mode there will be additional routes added to the routing tables at both ends, and you can optionally redirect all traffic through the VPN (or not), depending on policy requirements of your
[21:07] <TJ-> organisation.
[21:08] <Es0teric> bekks so when i do adduser what does it add by default?
[21:08] <Es0teric> does it add a home folder associated with it/
[21:08] <TJ-> Es0teric: "man adduser" see the section "Add a normal user"
[21:09] <Es0teric> TJ- ok so if i add a user, i want it to have sudo privelages
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> Es0teric  you can do that with sudo visudo
[21:10] <bnoji2> Aside from extra apps installed, is there any difference between installing ubuntu and then using xfce versus using Xubunu?
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> some questions... :-)
[21:11] <gp5st> is there a way to have multiple different environments for apt installs? like python virtenv or rvm's gem environments?
[21:19] <bekks> Es0teric: Nothing. You have to specify what to do.
[21:22] <D4rthB4n3> can someone help me with vlans or does someone know where i would get help with that ?
[21:22] <bekks> D4rthB4n3: How about just asking your actual question? :)
[21:24] <D4rthB4n3> ok so im trying to congigure a network with vlans i got my server wich is connected to switch (extreme networks black diamond 6808) from that switch it goes to another switch (extreme networks summit 48) and from there it goes to the client pcs
[21:24] <D4rthB4n3> so taggs are as following
[21:25] <PsychoX75> so... how long before the next version of ubuntu comes out?
[21:26] <ffff> TJ-: "This may not work for you, but I have a similar situation when I'm at home or I'm travelling. To solve it I set up a VPN at the office (we use Meraki hardware, so it was literally just a click) and connect to this first - then connect to the server.
[21:26] <ffff> "
[21:26] <ffff> TJ-: reply: "I did consider that approach, but the closest thing I have to an office is my home (with a dynamic IP) anyway!
[21:26] <ffff> I thought of setting up a VPN on a server, but all that would really do is move the problem from securing SSH to securing VPN."
[21:26] <ffff> TJ-: i totally agree, i don't think setting up a vpn is the way to go.
[21:27] <D4rthB4n3> server is on port 3:1 which is untagged then from port 5:1 untagged it goes to port 49 tagged id 2 host vlan and then my pc is on port 48 untagged same vlan
[21:27] <Es0teric> bekks yeah i got it thanks
[21:28] <D4rthB4n3> but i cant ping my server
[21:28] <bekks> D4rthB4n3: Do you know what tagged and untagged mean? :)
[21:28] <D4rthB4n3> i figured that the first switch somehow filtered the tags out or somehting
[21:28] <TJ-> ffff: The VPN server would be the Internet-based server running ssh, not your local (home) network
[21:28] <D4rthB4n3> yes
[21:29] <ffff> TJ-: right but wouldn't i sitll have to secure the vpn on the server?
[21:30] <D4rthB4n3> i want the first switch to forward all traffic without looking at the tags and they need to stay the same
[21:31] <TJ-> ffff: That's the point of openpvn using UDP and TLS-Auth, as I said, it mitigates DDOS attempts. The clients each have their own client certificate which they also present, which must be signed by your own CA.
[21:32] <ffff> TJ-: thank you for your help, i really appreciate it. i'm defs going to keep this in mind for the future, but right now my head's a bit overwhelemed. gonna go shower. cheers!
[21:34] <soman> Hi all. When will be 12.04.4. available in downloads in Ubuntu website?
[21:35] <alami> hello, i have download tor browser for ubuntu
[21:35] <alami> hello, i have download tor browser for ubuntu
[21:35] <alami> and after i startet it i can't write wuth the keyboard
[21:36] <bekks> D4rthB4n3: Do not query me. Keep your issue in this channel.
[21:37] <bnoji2> hm.
[21:37] <D4rthB4n3> well then answer or just say u cant help me
[21:37] <bnoji2> Ubuntu 13.10 installer does not recognize the existing Win 8.1 install
[21:38] <bekks> D4rthB4n3: i will NOT answer in a query. KEep the issue in this channel.
[21:38] <D4rthB4n3> well then not
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> D4rthB4n3  maybe someone else in the channel knows
[21:40] <D4rthB4n3> if someone does please tell me
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> D4rthB4n3  as soon as someone can, s/he will :)
[21:41] <D4rthB4n3> thanks :D
[21:42] <jhutchins> D4rthB4n3: I think what you need is documentation for your switches.  Your question doesn't seem to involve Ubuntu at all.
[21:44] <D4rthB4n3> i know it doesnt thats why i asked if someone know since it is not really in the docu i have for my switch and i thoung someone might know
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> D4rthB4n3  try ##networking (that's double #)
[21:45] <TJ-> He has been, for a while now :)
[21:45] <D4rthB4n3> MonkeyDust, yeah im on that right now thx
[21:49] <moises1> quien le va al bacelona
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> !es
[21:50] <moises1> q?
[21:51] <bnoji2> Hopefully boot repair works.
[21:51] <bnoji2> otherwise I'm wiping win 8.
[21:53] <nobitanobi> Hi guys I have a question. If I have installed apache and I want to have some Php projects in my /home directory instead of /var/www, what should I do?
[21:53] <jhutchins> nobitanobi: Symlink
[21:54] <bnoji2> I have a feeling this install is not going to work.
[21:54] <nobitanobi> jhutchins, I have tried using symlinks. But I get this: You don't have permission to access /testphp/prova.php on this server.
[21:54] <FrameFever> I have minimized a program in vmware
[21:54] <jhutchins> nobitanobi: Many other options as well, define the folder in the httpd.conf.d as a path on the server, alow exec.
[21:54] <bnoji2> We'll see if it breaks win 8
[21:54] <FrameFever> and I cannot see it annymore
[21:54] <FrameFever> how can I pop it up again?
[21:54] <nobitanobi> jhutchins, and I am not sure which kind of permissions should I set, and where
[21:55] <jhutchins> Set group www-server (I think that's it).
[21:55] <FrameFever> I cannot use ALT+Tab in vmware
[21:55] <bnoji2> grub2 installing.
[21:55] <jhutchins> FrameFever: Hit ctrl-alt again.
[21:55] <bnoji2> i have a feeling this isnt going to work as expected.
[21:55] <jhutchins> FrameFever: You can only treat it as a normal window if you have the GUI VMware tools installed.
[21:55] <nobitanobi> ok
[21:55] <nobitanobi> let's see
[21:56] <FrameFever> jhutchins: don't know if its installed
[21:57] <FrameFever> maybe there is a workaorund in ubunut
[21:57] <FrameFever> where I can maximize a pgrogram without alt+tab?
[21:58] <FrameFever> I mean thats more a general ubuntu question, when can I see all currently opened programs?
[21:58] <Coolkal> FrameFever: Run top
[21:58] <Coolkal> FrameFever: Or ps aux
[21:59] <bnoji2> Ok. Ubuntu install broke windows boot.
[21:59] <FrameFever> Coolkal: no, I mean, I want to see it, not in a console
[21:59] <FrameFever> I want that every gui program poped up
[22:00] <Coolkal> FrameFever: Depends on what WM you're using
[22:00] <FrameFever> or something like a task bar
[22:00] <jhutchins> bnoji2: Ok, but update-grub should detect it and allow grub to load it.
[22:00] <Coolkal> FrameFever: Do you use Unity?
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> FrameFever  ubuntu classic and lubuntu have taskbar
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> have a taskar*
[22:01] <FrameFever> I have gnome classic installed
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> FrameFever  logout, switch, login
[22:03] <Coolkal> FrameFever: why don't you put your other window in another workspace?
[22:03] <Guest92828> c'è nessuno??
[22:05] <tab1293> I accidentally overwrote a libreoffice document with an older version of the document. Is there any way to recover the previous version of the doc? I already checked my backup folder but it is not there
[22:06] <whoever> tab1293: edit > undo
[22:06] <whoever> tab1293: untill you get back to it
[22:06] <tab1293> whoever, not an option
[22:07] <TJ-> tab1293: You could try runing "photorec" on the (unmounted) file-system, and then grepping the recovered fragments for unique strings belonging to your document.
[22:08] <bnoji2> jhutchins: shouldnt it have run update-grub on install?
[22:09] <bnoji2> I just ran it, but it has a problem.
[22:09] <bnoji2> error: cannot load image
[22:10] <bnoji2> So, I can boot win 8, but not directly.
[22:10] <bnoji2> I have to manually select it from the UEFI launcher
[22:10] <bnoji2> exiting from grub2
[22:10] <bnoji2> kinda dumb.
[22:10] <guntbert> !enter | bnoji2
[22:12] <Coolkal> bnoji2: Have you tried manually editing your grub config to add Windows to it?
[22:12] <ethern0t> need some help, ubuntu times in times changes my keyboard
[22:13] <bnoji2> Coolkal: not yet.
[22:13] <bnoji2> I see references to boot-repair, but i cant find it in 13.10
[22:13] <bnoji2> "Run Boot-Repair --> Advanced Options --> tick Restore EFI backups --> Apply."
[22:14] <bnoji2> I can't find boot-repair anywhere though.
[22:14] <madyourse> Windows should be put out of business. They have crippled operating system development to long.
[22:14] <bnoji2> If I didn't need Windows for work, I would have wiped this machine.
[22:14] <bnoji2> yay. now it locked up logging in.
[22:15] <guntbert> bnoji2: easy on <enter> please
[22:16] <madyourse> bnoji2: look how telecommunications flourished and exploded after they busted up ma BELL. Same would happen if they shut Microsoft's doors to operating systems.
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | madyourse no need for any ranting
[22:19] <bnoji2> Coolkal: I'm not familiar with Grub 2. Where so I find the menu entry for win 8?
[22:20] <bnoji2> I checked in /boot but I haven't done this in forever.
[22:20] <lapalu> interesting!
[22:21] <Beldar> bnoji2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:23] <bnoji2> Beldar: If i run os-prober, it recognizes the "Windows Boot Manager"
[22:23] <bnoji2> I'm assuming I need boot-repair to create a backup of the windows boot (since it overwrites it for ubuntu) in order to chain load it properly?
[22:24] <bnoji2> I'm assuming I can install debian without a bootloader and then somehow add an entry to ubuntu's signed grub2 loader to boot debian (using secure boot) ?
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> bnoji2: thats no the case for uefi
[22:26] <Beldar> bnoji2, You mentioned you could not find bootrepair, I just gave a link is all.
[22:26] <bnoji2> I just realized I needed to add a repository for it.
[22:26] <bnoji2> Thank you.
[22:27] <user__> test
[22:29] <Beldar> bnoji2, Besides the help here, there is a link to this app devlopers thread at the ubuntu forum, the bootinfo summary generated is for diagnostics. That thread has focused users using that summary to give great help, along with your detailed description.
[22:30] <bnoji2> It seems to have worked if I turn of Secure Boot.
[22:30] <bnoji2> boot-repair wanted me to turn it off, but now it worked as-is...
[22:31] <Beldar> bnoji2, Cool sounds like your set.
[22:32] <roothorick> er... why is nvidia-319 installing nvidia-331?
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: that's a good mystery
[22:33] <Beldar> why is the sky blue and the birds sing?
[22:34] <roothorick> more importantly, how do I make sure Xorg is using 319 and not 331? The system has a GeForce 210
[22:34] <Beldar> roothorick, Any PPA's say xswat involved?
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: it seems 319 is no longer available because of this behaviour.
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: this is the behaviour now of 12.04
[22:35] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Ah, I was wondering, I don't have any nvidia cards
[22:36] <Briareos> hi all, i have an older dell mini with bmc4312 wireless; on 13.10 fresh install + latest updates i'm trying to install the binary driver via bcmwl-kernel-sources via the softerwa & updates applet, but applying the changes never completes
[22:36] <Briareos> any log files or things i can poke at to get a better idea why?
[22:37] <roothorick> Briareos: I hate to say it but go back to Windows or get a different card/system. I spent months and months and months fighting with that specific Broadcom chip and ultimately gave up.
[22:37] <Briareos> it worked fine with 10.xx LTS
[22:37] <Briareos> which i was using until 30 minutes ago
[22:38] <bekks> the bcm4312 works fine for me.
[22:38] <Briareos> lsmod shows b43, bcma, mac80211, cfg80211 loaded
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> !bcm | Briareos maybe try an alternative driver from here
[22:38] <bekks> Briareos: It works like a charm with 12.04 e.g.
[22:38] <roothorick> the issue I had is it would get confused by the school WiFi and freeze
[22:39] <roothorick> and by "freeze" I mean it would not do ANYTHING until I completely rebooted
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> Briareos  i was thinking the same as bekks : try 12.04
[22:39] <CookiesRgooD> hey guys. I'm trying to find a laptop that would run any form of linux for under 250
[22:39] <Briareos> yeah i poked at taht a bit but didn't see anything specific to 13.xx
[22:39] <roothorick> and it did that under every driver I could find and get te work
[22:39] <Briareos> will give them a shot
[22:39] <CookiesRgooD> and thats pref under 14"
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> CookiesRgooD  #ubuntu-offtopic, maybe
[22:39] <CookiesRgooD> true
[22:40] <roothorick> Beldar: I have three PPAs but not xswat. QTSixA, Steam, and XBMC
[22:41] <darkxploit> guys do u recommend postfix for mail forwarding ???
[22:41] <aleksander> I have a problem with installing a new kernel, as it passes improper arguments to mkinitramfs: http://pastebin.com/LAhiuaLA - how to check what passes them exactly?
[22:41] <Beldar> roothorick, My question turns out to not be relevant, as addressed by another helper.
[22:42] <bekks> darkxploit: I'd recommend postfix as MTA.
[22:42] <darkxploit> bekks: is it not a danger due to spam
[22:42] <roothorick> oh what the hell
[22:42] <bekks> darkxploit: That depends on the configuration done by you.
[22:42] <roothorick> nvidia-319 just redirects to nvidia-331
[22:43] <roothorick> but nvidia-331 DOES NOT support my GPU
[22:43] <roothorick> 319.xx does
[22:43] <darkxploit> bekks: hmm ok.. but what is the best mat would u recommend
[22:43] <darkxploit> mta^
[22:43] <bekks> !best | darkxploit
[22:43] <bekks> darkxploit: It all depends on your configuration.
[22:43] <Beldar> roothorick, My guess is a back to the driver that works if needed and lock it.
[22:44] <darkxploit> bekks: hmm ok..thnkxx.. still hunting for tutorials on youtube to set up postfix
[22:45] <roothorick> hell with it, PPA time
[22:45] <bekks> darkxploit: Forget those crap. Use the official postfix documenation or the ubuntu wiki.
[22:45] <darkxploit> bekks: ok sir
[22:47] <iam> When i try to install xubuntu, it thinks that my whole hard drive is unallocated
[22:47] <iam> when i have windows 7 already on it
[22:47] <iam> and a special partition for xubuntu to install to
[22:47] <iam> does anyone knows how to fix this?
[22:48] <Briareos> oh sweet
[22:48] <bekks> !dualboot | iam
[22:48] <Briareos> apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-sources worked just fine
[22:49] <Briareos> someone with wiki edit privs may wish to update taht there is at least one anecodtal report of similar steps working fine on 13.xx
[22:50] <iam> bekks, i just read through that, and it doesn't have a solution to my problem
[22:50] <iam> the installation is working perfectly, it is just not recognizing what is on my hard drive
[22:51] <iam> also, i already asked this question in #xubuntu, and nobody had a solution
[22:51] <iam> (that actually worked)
[22:51] <iam> in windows everything is fine and it shows all my partitions correctly
[22:52] <imcnanie> Hi guys, I have an asus laptop with uefi running xubuntu 13.10, but my fan control is always on high
[22:52] <imcnanie> I'm afraid it will burn out my fan
[22:52] <imcnanie> I also cant get pwmconfig to work
[22:53] <Sia-> hi their
[22:53] <roothorick> is there no PPA that's just the various nV drivers without bleeding edge X stuff?
[22:54] <Sia-> if i close the laptop doesn't suspend but screenlock. Any idea what's wrong?
[22:54] <bekks> roothorick: newer nvidia drivers require bleeding edge X stuff.
[22:54] <roothorick> bekks: I really doubt that.
[22:54] <iam> is there a better place to ask my question, i really want to get xubuntu 13.10 working on my laptop
[22:54] <imcnanie> has anyone had problems with uefi and fan controls?
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> Sia-  system settings > power
[22:56] <bekks> roothorick: Then you should read about the requirements of the drivers.
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> iam  do you have the same issue with 12.04?
[22:57] <iam> MonkeyDust, i haven't tried 12.04 yet
[22:58] <iam> right now i only have 13.10 :P
[22:58] <iam> i guess i could try 12.04
[22:58] <iam> MonkeyDust, what is the difference between them?
[22:58] <iam> is it noticeable?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> iam  what medium are you using? usb stick or dvd?
[22:58] <iam> MonkeyDust, i am booting from USB
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> iam  ok, put 12.04 on it and try that
[22:59] <iam> ok.
[22:59]  * iam downloads
[23:00] <roothorick> okay so, nvidia's website was confusing me
[23:00] <bnoji2> Now, the next step..figure out how to get ubuntu's signed loader to boot debian.
[23:00] <roothorick> they're continuing the 304 line for the 210
[23:00] <iam> MonkeyDust, this one "Latest LTS release: 12.04, Precise Pangolin" ?
[23:01] <jhutchins> iam: 12.04 is the latest Long Term Support version and is known to work pretty well with most hardware. The 2013 versions have some problems with some video cards, particularly 13.10.
[23:01] <PowerPenguin> I have seen some cool looking desktops that are all just running tex/console mode (no gui nonsense) and its all laid out in easy to see way with some magic to move between windows. Does anyone know what application does that? Or is it a special file manager?
[23:02] <bekks> PowerPenguin: A tiling desktop will do.
[23:02] <roothorick> PowerPenguin: something in the twm, ratpoison etc family
[23:03] <PowerPenguin> bekks: Thanks.
[23:03] <ianorlin> screen can do that without using a GUI but is a bit hard to learn
[23:03] <PowerPenguin> roothorick: I will give that a trye.
[23:03] <PowerPenguin> what about tmux?
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> screen <3
[23:03] <bekks> screen > * :)
[23:04] <ianorlin> screen is also useful in if you accidently close something you can do screen -r and bring it back
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> and even logout, then use screen -r or screen -dr
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> logout and back in*
[23:14] <bnoji2> ok. boot-repair made things worse.
[23:15] <bnoji2> Still same problem in secure boot mode, but now with added errors. )
[23:16] <bnoji2> booting without secure boot shows 2 ubuntu entries and 2 windows entries in grub
[23:18] <bnoji2> i wish debian would boot properly with uefi
[23:18] <bnoji2> i cant stand this crap.
[23:19] <philtrAlt> i am in the middle of installing/updating the os on a dell pc and have come across a bunch of NVIDIA drivers in the additional drivers settings, do I need to download all ofthese?
[23:20] <philtrAlt> currently i am looking at "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates)(Version 173-updates)" and "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates)(version 304-updates)"
[23:20] <bnoji2> is there a way to have boot-repair undo everything it did?
[23:20] <bnoji2> It broke more than it fixed.
[23:21] <philtrAlt> and am debating whether I need to get the former driver considering i just activated NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver(version 304)
[23:21] <Donald_ET3> How can root write to an external hard drive which has no write bit?
[23:22] <Donald_ET3> chmod is not working
[23:22] <Bashing-om> philtrAlt: Those are "options" in Additional Drivers, that one may dpwnload if needed. If you are happy with the drivers that the installer chose, leave well enough alone.
[23:22] <rww> Donald_ET3: NTFS?
[23:22] <Donald_ET3> How did you know. O_O
[23:22] <rww> Donald_ET3: did you mount it at the command-line perchance?
[23:22] <bekks> Donald_ET3: chmod does not work on NTFS :)
[23:22] <Donald_ET3> Not originally.
[23:22] <philtrAlt> oh alright, good stuff thanks for clearing that up
[23:23] <Titanium> how do you do permissions on files in linux?
[23:23] <Donald_ET3> D:
[23:23] <rww> hrm. usually if the whole partition is read-only, it's because it was mounted with ntfs instead of ntfs-3g
[23:23] <rww> but GUI is usually smart enough to not do that
[23:23] <rww> and yeah, you don't use chmod on NTFS partitions
[23:23] <Donald_ET3> This distro does not have ntfs-3g.
[23:24] <Donald_ET3> So, I should reformat.
[23:24] <rww> !info ntfs-3g
[23:24] <Donald_ET3> What FS do you recommend
[23:24] <rww> if you're not using a *buntu, go ask your actual distro's support channel :\
[23:24] <rww> depends on your requirements
[23:24] <MonkeyDust> Donald_ET3  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[23:25] <philtrAlt> i know "rtfm" and currently am in the process but, where in the file system can i find currently installed versions of python and its related components
[23:25] <jrib> philtrAlt: why?
[23:25] <Donald_ET3> "cat /etc/issue" shows "Trisquel GNU/Linux 6.0 \n \l"
[23:26] <rww> talk to the Trisquel folks then...
[23:26] <Donald_ET3> Fine...
[23:26] <philtrAlt> because i want to see if 3.3 is installed
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> Donald_ET3  it's not supported here
[23:26] <jrib> philtrAlt: apt-cache policy python3
[23:26] <Donald_ET3> Really? It is very similar.
[23:27] <jrib> philtrAlt: and you can try python3 -V
[23:27] <Bashing-om> philtrAlt: "rtfm" is not a part of our philosophy .. for what is installed, there are a number of tools. try -> dpkg -l python <- .
[23:27] <rww> yep, really. each distro channel handles its own distro, and not other distros
[23:27] <rww> we handle #ubuntu and not derivatives. #debian handles Debian and not derivatives (including Ubuntu), etc.
[23:27] <rww> less confusion that way
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> Donald_ET3  similar, but now you are confronted with a differnce
[23:27] <bnoji2> Ok. That was a big waste of time.
[23:28] <bnoji2> boot-repair made the system in-bootable.
[23:28] <Donald_ET3> Okay, thanks for the info. :)
[23:28] <bnoji2> er, un-bootable.
[23:28] <philtrAlt> good to hear, not part of my philo either
[23:29] <bnoji2> Is there a way to undo whatever Ubuntu install or boot-repair did?
[23:29] <Bashing-om> philtrAlt: yep, ask, think ask some more, we are here to help AND teach.
[23:30] <mrpizzaface> hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me to install ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtale to my Toshebia Conavario basics hdd when i do the installer either way (something else) (erase disk) i get the error Cannot create that partition in SDB1 SCCS (0,0,0)
[23:30] <MonkeyDust> bnoji2  is this useful http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[23:30] <Titanium> can ubuntu use tacacs for AAA ?
[23:30] <Sia-> hi, suspend via comandline or menu working fine, but if close lid the laptop doesn't!
[23:30] <Sia-> any idea?
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> Titanium  is that a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[23:31] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: nope, short answer 13.04 is no longer supported. It has reached End Of Life, choose a current version to install.
[23:31] <Titanium> MonkeyDust tacacs is for routers
[23:31] <Titanium> not servers
[23:31] <mrpizzaface> Bashing0om: ok it gives me that same error on 12.04 and every other version i try so what could be the issue
[23:32] <Beldar> bnoji2, Here is the developers thread, post the bootinfo summary there and your details. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[23:32] <philtrAlt> great news for me, i spent a lot of time learning .NET only to find that I need to be apart of the open source world so am pretty new to linux
[23:32] <MonkeyDust> Sia-  have you looked in system settings > power ?
[23:32] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: OK, let's focus on gett ing 12.04 installed. What are you installing on and is Windows A factor ? UEFI ? secure boot and all that ?
[23:33] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: no windows, UEFI ?, Device dosnt support secure boot,
[23:33] <bnoji2> Beldar: I'm not interested in messing around with it.
[23:34] <Sia-> MonkeyDust, yes,
[23:34] <bnoji2> The only reason I'm stuck with ubuntu is because it was the only deb-based system that would work with secure boot
[23:34] <bnoji2> otherwise id be runnin wheezy
[23:34] <Beldar> bnoji2, Cool, the best help I have seen is at that thread, but do what you like.
[23:35] <bnoji2> Beldar: my end goal is only to use the ubuntu signed loader to chainload other distroes.
[23:35] <bnoji2> Thanks for the info.
[23:35] <Beldar> grub 2 yes I have 4 OS myself
[23:35] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Well, should be straight forward. Have you verified the ,iso file (md5sum) ? What is your install medium CD, DVD or USB ?
[23:35] <philtrAlt> is there a "linux bible" that is generally considered to be "the" resource for learning?
[23:35] <MonkeyDust> !manual
[23:36] <bnoji2> philtrAlt: google
[23:37] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: USB and the installer fails when i install with a error about unable to create a partition on SDB1 (external HDD)
[23:37] <philtrAlt> thanks again
[23:38] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om:  here is the full error The ext4 file system creation in partition #2 of SCSI6 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed.
[23:38] <iam> guys
[23:38] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: OK, we will look here directly, can you boot the liveUSB to the "try ubuntu" mode and we can activate a terminal for a looksee ?
[23:38] <iam> i got 12.04 xubuntu, and i still have the same problem
[23:38] <iam> MonkeyDust
[23:39] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om:  what commands
[23:39] <FlacBean02> Via command line, what is the best way to kill those pesky process that don't want to be killed?
[23:40] <mrpizzaface> FlacBean02: sysmonitor_grb
[23:40] <chaotix> FlacBean02, i think it is xkill
[23:40] <chaotix> FlacBean02, check out man xkill
[23:41] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: pastebin -> fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l , sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s print <- .
[23:41] <chaotix> also, sigterm
[23:41] <linuxuz3r> FlacBean02, kill -9 processnumber
[23:42] <FlacBean02> thats what i tried kill-9 5458 what it will not terminate
[23:42] <linuxuz3r> is it a daemon
[23:42] <FlacBean02> but i mean
[23:42] <linuxuz3r> if it is a daemon it will run again
[23:42] <chaotix> and man kill
[23:42] <FlacBean02> its rhythymbox
[23:43] <chaotix> FlacBean02, have you tried openning system monitor?
[23:43] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/Wv2sLxKp
[23:43] <linuxuz3r> it should be killed
[23:43] <FlacBean02> yes and its still listed
[23:43] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: looking ar your LxKp .
[23:43] <chaotix> weird
[23:44] <FlacBean02> right...
[23:44] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: english ....
[23:45] <bnoji2> well. that was a waste. im giving up on ubuntu.
[23:45] <iam> I am having problems installing xubuntu 12.04 to a partition i made http://imgur.com/a/haWX7 any idea on how to fix?
[23:45] <linuxuz3r> bnoji2, dont
[23:45] <linuxuz3r> its a good distro
[23:46] <bnoji2> linuxuz3r: It doesnt work.
[23:46] <FlacBean02> okay if I understand xkill correctly, this won't help me as rhythymbox is closed but system monitor still shows running.
[23:46] <bnoji2> I was using it because I was hoping it would be turnkey...
[23:46] <bnoji2> otherwise, I would steet clear.
[23:47] <bnoji2> It's managed to screw up EFI boot stuff.
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> oh
[23:48] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: i think i know whats wrong i let it use a logical partition instead of a primary for the / dirrectory and /home directory
[23:48] <bnoji2> Now my system is unbootable.
[23:48] <MarGul> If I run apt-get install php5 , will that be the newest php? (php 5.5 ?)
[23:48] <bnoji2> Will probably have to do a factory restore.
[23:48] <FlacBean02> of course i could restart my computer to fix it but thats no fun :)
[23:48] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: GPT disk, need another tool to look at it rather than fdisk -> sudo apt-get install gdisk , gdisk -l /dev/sdb <- .
[23:49] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Ubuntu does not care weather the partition is primary or in an extended partition.
[23:51] <bnoji2> Thanks for trying guys, but I think I'm going to restore Win 8.
[23:51] <bnoji2> Ubuntu just isn't working.
[23:51] <linuxuz3r> ok
[23:51] <linuxuz3r> bnoji for efi?
[23:51] <bnoji2> yes
[23:51] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/exW2Fa50
[23:51] <bnoji2> It screwed up the efi entries.
[23:51] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: looking at Fa50
[23:51] <linuxuz3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:52] <bnoji2> I have 2 ubuntu entries and no windows entries.
[23:52] <linuxuz3r> you cant boot to windows?
[23:52] <bnoji2> not anymore.
[23:52] <FlacBean02> Yeah I don't know its weird kill -9 wont work. I can reproduce this bug all the time. It has to do with iPods and Rhythymbox reading writing to them.
[23:52] <bnoji2> I didnt want ubuntu in the first place...its just the only distro that was supposed to work with secure boot and apt/.
[23:53] <bnoji2> My end goal was only to use ubuntu for its bootloader to boot debian.
[23:53] <linuxuz3r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2053086
[23:53] <Beldar> bnoji2, Bummer you had problems, you seem to want to move on, could you do so. ;)
[23:53] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu is a nice distro
[23:53] <bnoji2> linuxuz3r: I don't even get Win bootloader in the uefi menu anymore.
[23:54] <bnoji2> It will probably work fine as a solo install.
[23:55] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: gdisk says that ubuntu is installed ! .. OK, what happens when you change the boot priority to the second disk and boot ?
[23:55] <linuxuz3r> ok good luck have fun
[23:56] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: i get the normal blinking _ of a failing bootloader ..
[23:58] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Well, there is a means to (re-)install the bootloader, I have not done it, will take me a bit to research it - if no one here can advise. (GPT is new order to me )
[23:59] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: buy, the ubuntu installer fails to install ... so how can it copy all the files so quick yet fail without installing the bootloader