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ahoneybunhey valorie 04:46
valoriehi04:46
ahoneybunhows the house?04:48
valorieno change; waiting on plumbing fixtures to arrive04:48
valoriehow are you?04:48
ahoneybungood drinking seagrams beer04:49
valorieseagrams makes beer?04:49
valoriethat I've not heard of04:49
ahoneybunseems04:50
ahoneybunseagram's escapes04:50
ahoneybunhey yofel are you up for tomahawk?05:21
ahoneybunor anyone else up 05:24
valorieahoneybun: I think a lot of them are at FOSDEM05:31
valorieI know Riddell is05:31
ahoneybunoh05:31
valorieshadeslayer, apachelogger_ maybe05:31
ahoneybundarn I think tomahawk might be close to being done05:31
valoriecan't recall if yofel or Quintasan were going05:31
ahoneybunoh05:33
lordievaderGood morning.08:54
BluesKajHi all11:04
jarkko_today i got crack-lib upgrade11:11
jarkko_could someone explain how these are used ??? /usr/share/dict11:12
jarkko_contains words, like brute force11:12
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lordievaderjarkko_: Probably used for dictionary attacks, however this is not really a topic for #kubuntu-devel.11:49
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kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1258422] Maximized windows go under panel if panel attached to screen edge between two monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258422 (by kolen)14:00
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Riddellphew that was hard work, but fun18:00
sneleguys oxygen-gtk doesn't work out of box in 14.0420:41
snelehttp://www.dodaj.rs/f/i/6W/3zDC5db5/snapshot1.png20:41
snelethe same bug I experienced in 13.1020:42
sneleand I think you should add homerun kicker to preinstalled apps list :)20:43
ahoneybunit is in the repos20:43
snelepage http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour is totally broken21:27
ahoneybunyea that page is being worked on21:32
lordievaderBut then why is it live if it is still under development?21:33
ahoneybunlordievader, I'm not sure21:40
ahoneybunwhere should I file a bug if it relates to the time being UTC but it is EST in the settings?21:54
apachelogger_ehm22:14
apachelogger_who's reworking the page22:14
apachelogger_and why are they doing it on the live version?22:14
apachelogger_oh how I hate drupal22:27
apachelogger_ahoneybun: ping22:27
ahoneybunyes?22:27
apachelogger_ahoneybun: who's redoing the page?22:28
apachelogger_or rather, who broke it22:29
ahoneybunapachelogger_, there was one student working on the refresh but I do not know if he was on the live page as he has been missing for a bit22:29
* apachelogger_ is so not amused22:30
ahoneybunI'm not sure who is22:30
apachelogger_I don't even know how they broke it22:31
apachelogger_because to me it seems that just about every element has rubbish css properties22:31
ahoneybunoh22:32
apachelogger_meh, google cache is also updated already22:32
apachelogger_drupal--22:32
Riddellapachelogger_: it was a google code in guy who ran away22:37
Riddellinfact, jose was it you?22:37
apachelogger_Riddell: why is the breakage on the live version though?22:37
Riddellbecause he or the theme or something changed something in coping it from the working copy22:38
joseRiddell: it was me, I saw the bug and was going to do the fix tomorrow to see how it got22:38
joseI'm just kinda busy with university paperwork, just got in and need to check lots of things with them22:39
joseand yes, I just copied it over but that didn't seem to make it22:40
Riddellbest be quick before apachelogger_ gets grumpy, you know what he's like when he's grumpy :)22:40
apachelogger_apachelogger already is grumpy because he's now looking for a way to revert -.-22:40
josedoing it now22:40
apachelogger_jose: fixing it now?22:40
josewell, trying to22:41
Riddellapachelogger_: there's no way to revert22:41
apachelogger_Riddell: the internet does not forget :P22:41
Riddellit might well be caused by the theme22:41
apachelogger_just a matter of finding the most recent cache ;)22:41
apachelogger_no22:41
joselooks like a CSS issue22:41
apachelogger_there's rubbish css properties set on some elements22:41
apachelogger_first line for example has a -25 left margin22:41
Riddellit's pretty complex the css for that site22:41
apachelogger_which is why the top image is offset to the left22:41
Riddellvery messy22:41
apachelogger_the page is super messy22:42
Riddelljust another reason to go with whatever wordpress site ovidiu-florin comes up with22:42
apachelogger_also drupal does not help22:42
apachelogger_Riddell: +1000022:42
* jose <3 WP22:42
ovidiu-florinThe site is available for functionality testing at http://test.kubuntu.co.uk22:44
ovidiu-florinI was planning to create a new theme, or modify the active one, if people like it22:45
apachelogger_yeah, modify, too many frames ^^22:45
ovidiu-florinI'm really caught up with my wedding planning right now22:45
apachelogger_ovidiu-florin: IMHO it's sufficient if only the sidebar has a frame22:46
josethe feature tour link in there is broken22:46
apachelogger_or possibly sidebar+footer22:46
ovidiu-florinjose: links are dummy22:46
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, I can help if you like22:46
joseoh :P22:46
ovidiu-florinlinks in menu22:46
ahoneybundon't know much of wp but I can learn by reading it22:46
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: content wise? or css-php wise?22:46
apachelogger_ovidiu-florin, ahoneybun: FWIW if only the theme is blocking us it may be worthwhile to simply ask if someone is interested to do that (blog/mailinglist)22:47
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, both perhaps22:47
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: great22:47
apachelogger_Riddell: did you get server maintenance/administration sorted?22:47
ovidiu-florinapachelogger_: I believe it can be used like it is, but I want a second opinion22:47
apachelogger_ovidiu-florin: my second opinion is that the number of frames needs to go down :P22:48
apachelogger_lookes like a tetris theme right now22:48
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, I agree with apachelogger_ 22:48
ahoneybunsimple is better always22:48
ovidiu-florinlike this?22:49
ahoneybunless frames/boxes whater22:49
ahoneybun*/whatever22:49
ovidiu-florinI'll just add a few pictures, borders, and colors22:49
ovidiu-florinand there we go22:49
ovidiu-florinand the language switcher needs a redo22:49
ovidiu-florinbut I'll talk with it's developer about that22:50
ahoneybunI like the buttons like that but they should be on top maybe next to the Kubuntu 22:50
ahoneybunon http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/download-kubuntu/ the theme does not load right22:51
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: I just changed the theme22:51
ovidiu-florinto a simpler one22:52
ahoneybunoh much more simple, like you said pictures, borders, and colors22:52
apachelogger_the simple one I like22:53
apachelogger_but22:53
apachelogger_I am no good on these matters :P22:53
ovidiu-florinas I've said:22:53
apachelogger_for me the less the better22:53
ovidiu-florinI'll just add a few pictures, borders, and colors, and teher we go22:53
apachelogger_websites could just be one picture and I'd be happy ^^22:53
ahoneybunadd a pic on top and you'll be good22:54
* ovidiu-florin thinks apachelogger_ likes better if the kubuntu site would be bare HTML22:54
ovidiu-florinwould like it better*22:54
apachelogger_no, you need css magic to get nice fonts going xD22:55
joseapachelogger_, Riddell, ahoneybun: better now? :)22:55
ahoneybunjose, top part of it 22:56
apachelogger_otherwise still broken22:56
ahoneybunimages need resizing and centering22:56
josecan you try ctrl+f5? I see it all good on my screen22:56
ahoneybunyep looking at in firefox22:56
apachelogger_http://i.imgur.com/DbcntEf.png22:57
ahoneybunthat is what I'm looking at too22:57
ovidiu-florinwow22:57
ovidiu-florinthat is broken22:57
ovidiu-florinsame here in chromium22:57
ovidiu-florinbroken22:58
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, do you have access to that site for anyone but you?22:58
josehmm, weird, I see it like http://i.imgur.com/XHVnLyK.png22:58
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: no, I'll give you access if you want22:58
joselet me see what can I do with those images to fix this22:59
ahoneybunI would like to look at least22:59
apachelogger_i386 queue is still 3days long23:00
apachelogger_-.-23:01
apachelogger_madness23:01
ahoneybunjose, you got it!23:01
joseawesome!23:01
josemarking as fixed then :)23:02
ahoneybunon my side23:02
joseapachelogger_: could you please confirm it's fixed now?23:02
ahoneybunwait for others to report the same23:02
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, how does it look in chrome?23:02
ovidiu-florinchromium is ok23:03
ovidiu-florin:D23:03
ahoneybunnice23:03
apachelogger_jose: http://i.imgur.com/KH84fVM.png23:03
ahoneybunI think the multimedia image should be updated23:03
joseahoneybun: which one?23:03
ahoneybunhttp://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/images/feature-tour/multimedia/feature-tour-apps-kaffine4.png23:04
ahoneybunplus dragonplayer is the new default23:04
ahoneybunnot kaffine23:04
apachelogger_jose: also http://i.imgur.com/zIAovQ3.png23:04
apachelogger_aspect is wrong on that one23:04
ahoneybunapachelogger_, thrown off by that glow?23:04
apachelogger_no, thrown off by the size23:04
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: check your mai;23:04
ovidiu-florinmail23:04
ahoneybunok23:05
apachelogger_huh, can't go from hungary to serbia because of snow :O23:05
apachelogger_"snow broke europe"23:06
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ahoneybunovidiu-florin, nothing yet23:07
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: oh... forgot23:10
ovidiu-florinno mail server on that machine23:10
ovidiu-florinsillly me23:10
ovidiu-florinthis reminds me, Riddell can we set up some MTA ?23:11
ovidiu-florinor can we use the Kubuntu one?23:11
ovidiu-florinis there such a thing?23:11
ahoneybuncan I fix a spelling error?23:13
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, >23:14
ovidiu-florinsure23:14
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: go nuts23:14
ahoneybunok just checking23:14
apacheloggerovidiu-florin: no MTA23:14
ovidiu-florinall articles have revision history23:15
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: ^23:15
apacheloggeron that note... someone should talk to the sysadmins and find out how that would work if we move kubuntu.org to an external server23:15
ahoneybunapachelogger, the english version is finished with our current content23:15
apacheloggerahoneybun: get a tarball then for upload please23:15
ahoneybunummm apachelogger not sure on how to do that23:15
apacheloggerI asked you at least a month ago to figure that out :P23:16
ahoneybunI don't even understand how they got the last package for 13.10 together23:16
apacheloggeror maybe it was valorie23:16
apacheloggerI definitely annoyed someone with it ;)23:16
apacheloggerahoneybun: that'd be completely diferent anyway23:16
ahoneybunI know valorie said we ask the kde people to get docbook out of it 23:16
apacheloggerahoneybun: just need and export from the wiki23:16
apacheloggervalorie: please get us an export of the documentation for testing 23:17
joseapachelogger: better now?23:17
* apachelogger somehow broke his kubuntu noitification helper23:17
ahoneybunjose, did you use old images?23:18
ahoneybunreplaced the new one with a old one 23:18
joseno, I didn't change the images at all23:18
josejust attributes23:18
ahoneybunmissing the email pic now23:18
josetry refreshing?23:19
joseI see it all good23:19
ahoneybunnow it is back23:19
ahoneybunlooks better23:19
joseanything else that needs fixing on that page?23:20
joseAlex Thierry mentioned a '&#nbsp;' at the end of the page, cannot see it...23:22
apacheloggermh23:22
apacheloggerjose: there's something off23:22
josehuh?23:22
ahoneybunI made a change on the home page ovidiu-florin 23:23
apacheloggerjose: layout wise, otherwise it's fine23:23
Riddellapachelogger: server maintenance/administration?23:24
joseif you could tell me what is it, because I see everything in order23:24
apacheloggerjose: http://i.imgur.com/vQ7rQhI.png the bottom screenshot should be displayed and cutt off to the right, like the one at the top23:24
apacheloggerjose: also the line break for Share everything everywhere is very unfortunate, not sure that can be influenced though23:24
joseoh, I think that line was never there23:25
joseI'm checking the image thing23:25
apacheloggerjose: http://i.imgur.com/YquGykV.png the bottom screenshot should be smaller, as the one above has a drop shadow the effective perceived size is smaller than what the technical size is23:26
apacheloggeralso I think the bottom should be on the left or something23:26
apacheloggerjust looks weird as it is right now, cannot exactly pin point why but I guess it's because they form a wall right now23:26
apacheloggerdoesn't like very nice ^^23:26
joseabout that left-right thing, I found a workaround that makes the text fit in the white box, but gets that bug on23:28
apacheloggerother option would be to just make the screenshot smaller23:28
* apachelogger puts down a todo to exchange that screenshot23:28
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, am I doing to much?23:29
apacheloggerjose: actually, just make it smaller for now23:30
apacheloggerwe need a different screenshot there23:30
joseapachelogger: I give up on that screenshot, according to properties it's 640 width for both of them23:30
apacheloggerjust need to take care thatit's not widescreen aspect23:30
apacheloggerjose: that's what I meant23:30
joseoh23:30
apacheloggerjose: you need to make the bottom one smaller23:30
josethen even smaller23:30
josewill do23:31
apacheloggerbecause the top has a shadow inside the screenshot23:31
apacheloggerso the bottom one looks bigger because it has no shadow23:31
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: not at all23:31
* apachelogger also puts down todo to redo screenshots with shadows23:31
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, can you to add a image where the Kubuntu wording is23:32
joseapachelogger: is that (/me points to the page) what you meant?23:33
apacheloggerkind of23:34
apachelogger(also note that the screenshot doesn't respect the right margin btw23:34
apachelogger)23:34
joseyeah, I was wondering why23:34
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: this theme is... not helping23:35
ovidiu-florinI'll need to change some arangements23:35
ahoneybunfeatured image23:35
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: take a look23:35
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: featured image is specific to each article23:35
ahoneybun2 of them?23:35
ovidiu-florinno23:36
ovidiu-florinthe big one is the header23:36
ovidiu-florinthat's where this theme places it23:36
ahoneybunnow that is nice23:36
apacheloggerjose: like so http://i.imgur.com/0WIYSwg.png23:36
apacheloggerjose: also the element needs a special margin23:36
apacheloggerthat's why it is displayed to the right, it has a different width so it gets pushed over to the right23:37
apacheloggerjose: marin-right: 10px does the trick for me23:37
apachelogger*margin23:37
apacheloggerthough possibly 12 is even better23:37
apacheloggeryeah, go with 1223:37
apacheloggeraligns perfectly with the top screenshot then23:38
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, http://wordpress.org/themes/expound this is a nice theme23:38
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: looks good23:39
ahoneybunI'm looking for one with nice pic at the top23:39
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: any theme can be edited23:40
ahoneybunyes but if it was designed for the image on the top it will be easier no?23:41
ovidiu-florinsure23:41
joseapachelogger: check now?23:41
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, http://wordpress.org/themes/inkness23:41
apacheloggerjose: http://i.imgur.com/kUZkkpF.png23:42
joseyeah, I changed to 10, 12, 15, 24 and it's staying on the same place23:43
joseno idea why23:43
ahoneybunovidiu-florin, http://wordpress.org/themes/evolve this reminds me of the main site23:43
apacheloggerjose: you need to change the margin of the img element23:43
josenot with a div?23:44
apacheloggerno23:44
apacheloggerthe div will impact both screenshots23:44
joseI added a div to that image only, but will change it now23:44
apacheloggerjust do <img style="margin-right: 12px"...23:45
apacheloggerjose: and you'll need to change height/width a bit23:45
ahoneybunuse this one ovidiu-florin http://wordpress.org/themes/discover can we change the colors to blue?23:46
apacheloggerjose: and bump the size to 570x35623:49
josedoing it now23:49
ahoneybunlooks lovely ovidiu-florin 23:53
ahoneybunsimple with a touch of style to me23:53
ahoneybunhow do you change colors and and a header?23:55
joseapachelogger: seems like it's done23:58

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