[04:46] hey valorie [04:46] hi [04:48] hows the house? [04:48] no change; waiting on plumbing fixtures to arrive [04:48] how are you? [04:49] good drinking seagrams beer [04:49] seagrams makes beer? [04:49] that I've not heard of [04:50] seems [04:50] seagram's escapes [05:21] hey yofel are you up for tomahawk? [05:24] or anyone else up [05:31] ahoneybun: I think a lot of them are at FOSDEM [05:31] I know Riddell is [05:31] oh [05:31] shadeslayer, apachelogger_ maybe [05:31] darn I think tomahawk might be close to being done [05:31] can't recall if yofel or Quintasan were going [05:33] oh [08:54] Good morning. [11:04] Hi all [11:11] today i got crack-lib upgrade [11:12] could someone explain how these are used ??? /usr/share/dict [11:12] contains words, like brute force === Squt is now known as Sput [11:49] jarkko_: Probably used for dictionary attacks, however this is not really a topic for #kubuntu-devel. === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [14:00] ::workspace-bugs:: [1258422] Maximized windows go under panel if panel attached to screen edge between two monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258422 (by kolen) === debfx_ is now known as debfx [18:00] phew that was hard work, but fun [20:41] guys oxygen-gtk doesn't work out of box in 14.04 [20:41] http://www.dodaj.rs/f/i/6W/3zDC5db5/snapshot1.png [20:42] the same bug I experienced in 13.10 [20:43] and I think you should add homerun kicker to preinstalled apps list :) [20:43] it is in the repos [21:27] page http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour is totally broken [21:32] yea that page is being worked on [21:33] But then why is it live if it is still under development? [21:40] lordievader, I'm not sure [21:54] where should I file a bug if it relates to the time being UTC but it is EST in the settings? [22:14] ehm [22:14] who's reworking the page [22:14] and why are they doing it on the live version? [22:27] oh how I hate drupal [22:27] ahoneybun: ping [22:27] yes? [22:28] ahoneybun: who's redoing the page? [22:29] or rather, who broke it [22:29] apachelogger_, there was one student working on the refresh but I do not know if he was on the live page as he has been missing for a bit [22:30] * apachelogger_ is so not amused [22:30] I'm not sure who is [22:31] I don't even know how they broke it [22:31] because to me it seems that just about every element has rubbish css properties [22:32] oh [22:32] meh, google cache is also updated already [22:32] drupal-- [22:37] apachelogger_: it was a google code in guy who ran away [22:37] infact, jose was it you? [22:37] Riddell: why is the breakage on the live version though? [22:38] because he or the theme or something changed something in coping it from the working copy [22:38] Riddell: it was me, I saw the bug and was going to do the fix tomorrow to see how it got [22:39] I'm just kinda busy with university paperwork, just got in and need to check lots of things with them [22:40] and yes, I just copied it over but that didn't seem to make it [22:40] best be quick before apachelogger_ gets grumpy, you know what he's like when he's grumpy :) [22:40] apachelogger already is grumpy because he's now looking for a way to revert -.- [22:40] doing it now [22:40] jose: fixing it now? [22:41] well, trying to [22:41] apachelogger_: there's no way to revert [22:41] Riddell: the internet does not forget :P [22:41] it might well be caused by the theme [22:41] just a matter of finding the most recent cache ;) [22:41] no [22:41] looks like a CSS issue [22:41] there's rubbish css properties set on some elements [22:41] first line for example has a -25 left margin [22:41] it's pretty complex the css for that site [22:41] which is why the top image is offset to the left [22:41] very messy [22:42] the page is super messy [22:42] just another reason to go with whatever wordpress site ovidiu-florin comes up with [22:42] also drupal does not help [22:42] Riddell: +10000 [22:42] * jose <3 WP [22:44] The site is available for functionality testing at http://test.kubuntu.co.uk [22:45] I was planning to create a new theme, or modify the active one, if people like it [22:45] yeah, modify, too many frames ^^ [22:45] I'm really caught up with my wedding planning right now [22:46] ovidiu-florin: IMHO it's sufficient if only the sidebar has a frame [22:46] the feature tour link in there is broken [22:46] or possibly sidebar+footer [22:46] jose: links are dummy [22:46] ovidiu-florin, I can help if you like [22:46] oh :P [22:46] links in menu [22:46] don't know much of wp but I can learn by reading it [22:46] ahoneybun: content wise? or css-php wise? [22:47] ovidiu-florin, ahoneybun: FWIW if only the theme is blocking us it may be worthwhile to simply ask if someone is interested to do that (blog/mailinglist) [22:47] ovidiu-florin, both perhaps [22:47] ahoneybun: great [22:47] Riddell: did you get server maintenance/administration sorted? [22:47] apachelogger_: I believe it can be used like it is, but I want a second opinion [22:48] ovidiu-florin: my second opinion is that the number of frames needs to go down :P [22:48] lookes like a tetris theme right now [22:48] ovidiu-florin, I agree with apachelogger_ [22:48] simple is better always [22:49] like this? [22:49] less frames/boxes whater [22:49] */whatever [22:49] I'll just add a few pictures, borders, and colors [22:49] and there we go [22:49] and the language switcher needs a redo [22:50] but I'll talk with it's developer about that [22:50] I like the buttons like that but they should be on top maybe next to the Kubuntu [22:51] on http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/download-kubuntu/ the theme does not load right [22:51] ahoneybun: I just changed the theme [22:52] to a simpler one [22:52] oh much more simple, like you said pictures, borders, and colors [22:53] the simple one I like [22:53] but [22:53] I am no good on these matters :P [22:53] as I've said: [22:53] for me the less the better [22:53] I'll just add a few pictures, borders, and colors, and teher we go [22:53] websites could just be one picture and I'd be happy ^^ [22:54] add a pic on top and you'll be good [22:54] * ovidiu-florin thinks apachelogger_ likes better if the kubuntu site would be bare HTML [22:54] would like it better* [22:55] no, you need css magic to get nice fonts going xD [22:55] apachelogger_, Riddell, ahoneybun: better now? :) [22:56] jose, top part of it [22:56] otherwise still broken [22:56] images need resizing and centering [22:56] can you try ctrl+f5? I see it all good on my screen [22:56] yep looking at in firefox [22:57] http://i.imgur.com/DbcntEf.png [22:57] that is what I'm looking at too [22:57] wow [22:57] that is broken [22:57] same here in chromium [22:58] broken [22:58] ovidiu-florin, do you have access to that site for anyone but you? [22:58] hmm, weird, I see it like http://i.imgur.com/XHVnLyK.png [22:58] ahoneybun: no, I'll give you access if you want [22:59] let me see what can I do with those images to fix this [22:59] I would like to look at least [23:00] i386 queue is still 3days long [23:01] -.- [23:01] madness [23:01] jose, you got it! [23:01] awesome! [23:02] marking as fixed then :) [23:02] on my side [23:02] apachelogger_: could you please confirm it's fixed now? [23:02] wait for others to report the same [23:02] ovidiu-florin, how does it look in chrome? [23:03] chromium is ok [23:03] :D [23:03] nice [23:03] jose: http://i.imgur.com/KH84fVM.png [23:03] I think the multimedia image should be updated [23:03] ahoneybun: which one? [23:04] http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/images/feature-tour/multimedia/feature-tour-apps-kaffine4.png [23:04] plus dragonplayer is the new default [23:04] not kaffine [23:04] jose: also http://i.imgur.com/zIAovQ3.png [23:04] aspect is wrong on that one [23:04] apachelogger_, thrown off by that glow? [23:04] no, thrown off by the size [23:04] ahoneybun: check your mai; [23:04] mail [23:05] ok [23:05] huh, can't go from hungary to serbia because of snow :O [23:06] "snow broke europe" === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [23:07] ovidiu-florin, nothing yet [23:10] ahoneybun: oh... forgot [23:10] no mail server on that machine [23:10] sillly me [23:11] this reminds me, Riddell can we set up some MTA ? [23:11] or can we use the Kubuntu one? [23:11] is there such a thing? [23:13] can I fix a spelling error? [23:14] ovidiu-florin, > [23:14] sure [23:14] ahoneybun: go nuts [23:14] ok just checking [23:14] ovidiu-florin: no MTA [23:15] all articles have revision history [23:15] ahoneybun: ^ [23:15] on that note... someone should talk to the sysadmins and find out how that would work if we move kubuntu.org to an external server [23:15] apachelogger, the english version is finished with our current content [23:15] ahoneybun: get a tarball then for upload please [23:15] ummm apachelogger not sure on how to do that [23:16] I asked you at least a month ago to figure that out :P [23:16] I don't even understand how they got the last package for 13.10 together [23:16] or maybe it was valorie [23:16] I definitely annoyed someone with it ;) [23:16] ahoneybun: that'd be completely diferent anyway [23:16] I know valorie said we ask the kde people to get docbook out of it [23:16] ahoneybun: just need and export from the wiki [23:17] valorie: please get us an export of the documentation for testing [23:17] apachelogger: better now? [23:17] * apachelogger somehow broke his kubuntu noitification helper [23:18] jose, did you use old images? [23:18] replaced the new one with a old one [23:18] no, I didn't change the images at all [23:18] just attributes [23:18] missing the email pic now [23:19] try refreshing? [23:19] I see it all good [23:19] now it is back [23:19] looks better [23:20] anything else that needs fixing on that page? [23:22] Alex Thierry mentioned a '&#nbsp;' at the end of the page, cannot see it... [23:22] mh [23:22] jose: there's something off [23:22] huh? [23:23] I made a change on the home page ovidiu-florin [23:23] jose: layout wise, otherwise it's fine [23:24] apachelogger: server maintenance/administration? [23:24] if you could tell me what is it, because I see everything in order [23:24] jose: http://i.imgur.com/vQ7rQhI.png the bottom screenshot should be displayed and cutt off to the right, like the one at the top [23:24] jose: also the line break for Share everything everywhere is very unfortunate, not sure that can be influenced though [23:25] oh, I think that line was never there [23:25] I'm checking the image thing [23:26] jose: http://i.imgur.com/YquGykV.png the bottom screenshot should be smaller, as the one above has a drop shadow the effective perceived size is smaller than what the technical size is [23:26] also I think the bottom should be on the left or something [23:26] just looks weird as it is right now, cannot exactly pin point why but I guess it's because they form a wall right now [23:26] doesn't like very nice ^^ [23:28] about that left-right thing, I found a workaround that makes the text fit in the white box, but gets that bug on [23:28] other option would be to just make the screenshot smaller [23:28] * apachelogger puts down a todo to exchange that screenshot [23:29] ovidiu-florin, am I doing to much? [23:30] jose: actually, just make it smaller for now [23:30] we need a different screenshot there [23:30] apachelogger: I give up on that screenshot, according to properties it's 640 width for both of them [23:30] just need to take care thatit's not widescreen aspect [23:30] jose: that's what I meant [23:30] oh [23:30] jose: you need to make the bottom one smaller [23:30] then even smaller [23:31] will do [23:31] because the top has a shadow inside the screenshot [23:31] so the bottom one looks bigger because it has no shadow [23:31] ahoneybun: not at all [23:31] * apachelogger also puts down todo to redo screenshots with shadows [23:32] ovidiu-florin, can you to add a image where the Kubuntu wording is [23:33] apachelogger: is that (/me points to the page) what you meant? [23:34] kind of [23:34] (also note that the screenshot doesn't respect the right margin btw [23:34] ) [23:34] yeah, I was wondering why [23:35] ahoneybun: this theme is... not helping [23:35] I'll need to change some arangements [23:35] featured image [23:35] ahoneybun: take a look [23:35] ahoneybun: featured image is specific to each article [23:35] 2 of them? [23:36] no [23:36] the big one is the header [23:36] that's where this theme places it [23:36] now that is nice [23:36] jose: like so http://i.imgur.com/0WIYSwg.png [23:36] jose: also the element needs a special margin [23:37] that's why it is displayed to the right, it has a different width so it gets pushed over to the right [23:37] jose: marin-right: 10px does the trick for me [23:37] *margin [23:37] though possibly 12 is even better [23:37] yeah, go with 12 [23:38] aligns perfectly with the top screenshot then [23:38] ovidiu-florin, http://wordpress.org/themes/expound this is a nice theme [23:39] ahoneybun: looks good [23:39] I'm looking for one with nice pic at the top [23:40] ahoneybun: any theme can be edited [23:41] yes but if it was designed for the image on the top it will be easier no? [23:41] sure [23:41] apachelogger: check now? [23:41] ovidiu-florin, http://wordpress.org/themes/inkness [23:42] jose: http://i.imgur.com/kUZkkpF.png [23:43] yeah, I changed to 10, 12, 15, 24 and it's staying on the same place [23:43] no idea why [23:43] ovidiu-florin, http://wordpress.org/themes/evolve this reminds me of the main site [23:43] jose: you need to change the margin of the img element [23:44] not with a div? [23:44] no [23:44] the div will impact both screenshots [23:44] I added a div to that image only, but will change it now [23:45] just do jose: and you'll need to change height/width a bit [23:46] use this one ovidiu-florin http://wordpress.org/themes/discover can we change the colors to blue? [23:49] jose: and bump the size to 570x356 [23:49] doing it now [23:53] looks lovely ovidiu-florin [23:53] simple with a touch of style to me [23:55] how do you change colors and and a header? [23:58] apachelogger: seems like it's done