[00:47] <newbie|4> Is there a PPA for KVIRC?. I see KVIRC 4.20 is out now.
[00:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh wow. I've used that in windows, but never in linux. lol
[00:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> Where have I been?
[00:55] <valorie> $ apt-cache policy kvirc
[00:55] <valorie> kvirc:
[00:55] <valorie>   Installed: (none)
[00:55] <valorie>   Candidate: 4:4.2.0-2
[00:55] <FloodBotK1> valorie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <valorie> no ppa needed
[00:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> cool
[00:55] <valorie> fine, FloodBotK1
[00:55]  * valorie goes off to dinner
[00:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, he's gone
[00:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> too impatient.
[01:07] <fabio123> qtcurve vs oxygen-gtk http://pastebin.com/NF5jd7fr
[01:48] <naught101> I'm trying to install kubuntu with manual partitioning (trying to keep windows), on a hp 2000, which has EFI. Install appears to work, but thne when I start the computer, I get a grub terminal, and it doesn't boot to kubuntu
[01:49] <naught101> I've tried the install a few times, with the boot loader installed to /dev/sda, and to /dev/sda1, which is an EFI partition (although it's not at the start of the drive - does that matter?
[01:50] <naught101> I've also tried fixing it with boot-repair
[01:50] <naught101> twice, with different options. No joy.
[01:51] <naught101> Anyone know what the problem might be?
[02:09] <lars__> hi there
[02:10] <lars__> is there anyone here?
[02:10] <lars__> is this the support channel?
[02:11] <lars__> I don¨t see anyone talking here
[02:12] <lars__> there are so many users on the list
[02:12] <lars__> like a hundred or more
[02:12] <lars__> but no one is chatting
[02:13] <lars__> wow, 252 users, but no one is chatting
[02:18] <lars__> testing kubuntu channel
[02:19] <lars__> Wow, this is really weird
[02:19] <lars__> no one here is chatting
[02:21] <jackyalcine> lars__: people have lives
[02:21] <jackyalcine> we don't all just sit in front of a computer all day
[02:21] <jackyalcine> well, I do
[02:21] <jackyalcine> but I'm not speaking for everyone :)
[02:35] <valorie> lars__: this is a help channel, not a chat chan
[02:35] <valorie> if you want off-topic, try #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:56] <Strepi> alguem ?
[04:31] <dcmNindy_> any idea's on my dell xps laptop kubuntu 12.04LTS, kde login hangs on tty7 (kde default gear screen never finishes) but x does load on tty8.  X is not fully functional on tty8 but kde menu and docky do work.
[04:38] <valorie> dcmNindy_: is this a new laptop?
[04:44] <dcmNindy_> 2nd gen i7
[04:53] <jackyalcine> sounds shiny
[04:53] <jackyalcine> can you go into a tty and check X's log?
[04:58] <dcmNindy_> love the screen and backlit keys and it's an ebay score...yes i can, the system seems fully functional from tty8 except for some quirky X actions (screen saver in a xterm frame)
[05:02] <dcmNindy_> i did look at some X related logs suggested a few days go; but did not see anything from my inexperenced eyes. up until two days ago the kde menu would not come up in tty8; but after update / upgrade from the package manager, the K menu came up in the tty8.
[05:05] <dcmNindy_> i'm something of a distro hopper and was hoping to settle in with kubuntu.  right now i'm working out of my mint15 partition but can access the kubuntu partition
[07:46]  * yossman waves
[07:47] <yossman> i just wanted to pass along, i just put kubuntu 12.04.3 onto this toshiba laptop i've been testing.. and out of the 10 distros 12 different kernel revisions, this one works the network hardware properly ;)
[07:47] <valorie> nice!
[07:48] <yossman> very pleased, thanks for the great work ;)
[07:48] <valorie> that's a rather old release, but I'm glad it's working for ya
[07:48] <yossman> 10 distros AND 12 different kernel revisions, rather
[07:49] <yossman> yea i prefer to the stick with the LTS releases, i have too many systems to be fighting with upgrade quirks all the time ;)
[07:50] <valorie> new LTS out in April
[07:54] <yossman> so strange about this particular laptop's network hardware.. i have a laptop almost identical to it, same model, slightly different submodel (basically made 11 months earlier) and i never had a problem with it's network hardware yet on any ubuntu past 10.10
[07:55] <yossman> the wired network card is the same chipset on both, but the wireless is different
[07:56] <valorie> weird
[07:56] <yossman> sometimes the wired network card would just stop passing packets, other times the entire system would lock hard and the video would go fuzzed out.  oh well, just very glad it seems to be working fine now ;)
[07:57] <yossman> anything using kernels higher than like 3.2.x seems to not like this hardware combination anymore, put it that way ;(
[07:59] <Okitain> my laptop doesn't like ubuntu with kernels >3.5.
[07:59] <Okitain> And linux with pretty much any kernel - it locks up the wireless sometimes.
[08:00] <yossman> Okitain its also difficult to figure out which kernel subversion threads to follow too, when many of them are in concurrent development ;/
[08:00] <yossman> the kernel that comes with ubuntu 12.04.3 is 3.2.0-52 and it's more recent than some of the 3.5 and 3.7 kernels i tried
[08:03] <Okitain> RH is famous for their 2.6.18 being basically 3.5 or so because of backporting.
[08:10] <yossman> huh, damn.
[08:10] <yossman> it just finally froze up on me, the laptop ;.
[08:10] <yossman> sigh back to the drawing board..
[08:11] <yossman> i thought i had this problem licked finally but i guess not ;(
[08:11] <yossman> froze up while browsing web pages.  if i only use wireless on the laptop, it never locks up like this
[08:11] <yossman> and i tested windows 7 on the hardware for a few days, never locked up once, grr
[08:16] <stmsgebjgd> you should try the newest kernel
[08:17] <stmsgebjgd> just compile the newest vanilla kernel on your kubuntu, it can solve lots of problems
[08:22] <naftilos76> Hi eveyone, i am on Kubuntu 13.10 and tried both nouveau and nvidia drivers. I want to go back to nouveau but could not do it. I tried purging nvidia drivers but i get a black display after next time booting. So i had to switch to another virtual terminal and reinstal nvidia drivers.
[08:26] <naftilos76> Hasn't anybody tried to go back to nouveau after installing nvidia drivers?
[08:27] <naftilos76> Anybody?
[08:27] <valorie> not sure, naftilos76
[08:27] <valorie> has anyone filed a bug about that?
[08:27] <valorie> umm
[08:27] <TheFakeazneD525> mew?
[08:28] <jackyalcine> valorie: this goes back to what we're saying in #kde, can't help everyone
[08:28] <TheFakeazneD525> So what's going on guys?
[08:29] <valorie> yeah
[08:29] <valorie> well, he could have quit by mistake
[08:29] <valorie> or so
[08:29] <jackyalcine> true
[08:30] <naftilos76> valorie: Sorry, i had to log out. Did anybody else repond?
[08:31] <jackyalcine> naftilos76: have you tried using jockey?
[08:32] <naftilos76> i have no idea what that is
[08:32] <jackyalcine> !info jockey-kde
[08:32] <valorie> i asked if a bug has been filed about this
[08:32] <valorie> if so, please add your info
[08:32] <valorie> if not, please file a bug
[08:33] <jackyalcine> indeedy
[08:34] <naftilos76> It seems i have to reinstall from scratch...Too sad. Kubuntu used to be my favorite.
[08:34] <jackyalcine> If this affects Kubuntu, it'd affect other *ubuntu; that's a driver issue
[08:35] <valorie> naftilos76: did you try using jockey, as jackyalcine suggested?
[08:36] <naftilos76> no i haven't because i do not know what it is
[08:36] <valorie> last time I tried it, it did the trick
[08:36] <jackyalcine> !info jockey-kde
[08:36] <jackyalcine> naftilos76: ^; it helps with driver management
[08:36] <jackyalcine> you'd have to run this from the TTY (Ctrl+F1 - Ctrl+F6)
[08:36] <naftilos76> well let me do a little search
[08:36] <jackyalcine> and use 'jockey-text'
[08:37] <jackyalcine> naftilos76: we'll be here
[08:37] <naftilos76> thank you man
[08:37] <jackyalcine> no problem
[08:37] <qdata> when nvidia driver installs it puts a blacklist on the nouveau module
[08:38] <qdata> use lsmod to see what you're loading
[08:39] <qdata> I've done the remove nvidia and reinstall nouveau before just don't remember everything I did
[08:41] <qdata> remove the nouveau blacklist and if you don't see it in lsmod you'll need to do mkinitrd to get it to load with the kernel at boot, that is, after an apt-get install nouveau
[08:41] <TheFakeazneD525> huh? Jockey?
[08:41] <jackyalcine> TheFakeazneD525: you never used jockey?
[08:41] <TheFakeazneD525> Yeah, that thing is buggy for me, if you must, use softwarecenter-gtk
[08:41]  * jackyalcine wonders why no one's heard of it? lol
[08:42] <TheFakeazneD525> it can handle the driver bits
[08:42] <TheFakeazneD525> albiet... the nvidia driver isn't building for me anymore...
[08:42] <TheFakeazneD525> well, not for the 3.13 kernel at least
[08:43] <jackyalcine> I really forget what version of Linux I run at times.
[08:43] <jackyalcine> 3.11
[08:54] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:22] <maurizio_> ciao
[10:40] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[11:04] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:45] <sergey> Hello everybody!
[11:47] <TheFakeazneD525> hi
[11:48] <lordievader> Hey sergey, TheFakeazneD525
[11:48] <TheFakeazneD525> ohj mai gawd someone ban saheb for a bit...
[11:49] <lordievader> saheb__: Please fix your connection.
[12:20] <naught101> I just installed 13.10, on a HP 2000 laptop (using the "use entire disk" partitioning option). When I start it now, it gets to a grub console, and goes no further. Anyone know how I can fix that?
[12:33] <BluesKaj> so wnat do get after clicking on kubuntu in grub, a blank screen with blinking cursor.....or?
[12:33] <BluesKaj> what
[12:33] <BluesKaj> naught101,^
[12:34] <jackyalcine> I don't think he's getting the boot menu selection; he might be in a rescue console
[12:34] <naught101> BluesKaj: no, there is no grub boot selection menu. I just get a grub command line
[12:34] <jackyalcine> naught101: do you know if your laptop requires UEFI booting?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> grub resccue ?
[12:35] <naught101> jackyalcine: yep.
[12:35] <jackyalcine> now, is Secure Boot enabled?
[12:35] <naught101> jackyalcine: maybe it's this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/343980/kubuntu-uefi-dual-boot-with-windows-7-failed-at-installing-grub-efi I might try 12.10, then upgrade
[12:35] <jackyalcine> if so, try disabling it and booting.
[12:35] <naught101> jackyalcine: no, secure boot was never enabled.
[12:36] <jackyalcine> hmmm
[12:40] <BluesKaj> naught101, I just used legacy mode. After wiping W8, then partitioning for dual boot with W7 and Linux, but if you want EFI then keep researching , a lot depends on your machine.
[12:41] <naught101> BluesKaj: mmm... I wanted to keep windows 8 on it, just in case, since there was a license for it (friend's computer, not mine).
[12:41] <naught101> now I've screwed that though :P
[12:41] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:47] <BluesKaj> naught101, you might fix the problem with boot-repair utility, worked for my setup several times
[12:48] <naught101> BluesKaj: I tried that twice, with different settings, and got the same (null) result each time...
[12:51] <BluesKaj> naught101, ok what about looking at the partitions and checking for the rescue partition and BCD, http://www.boyans.net/RepairWindows/RepairWindowsBCD.html
[12:53] <naught101> BluesKaj: they're all gone now. I didn't want to keep them that badly, so I wiped all of the partitions except the windows8 partition and the EFI partition, and used the space to install linux. I think that screwed up anyway, but since then I've just wiped the whole hard drive, and tried installing from scratch, and it still won't work.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> naught101, then I think the legacy mode will worj for you since EFI boot is gone
[12:59] <naught101> BluesKaj: I assumed that since the installer was booted in EFI mode, it would install an EFI partition when it re-partitioned (I don't know exactly what the guided options do).
[13:02] <BluesKaj> naught101, yes that's the assumption , usually correct, but noy in my case
[13:02] <BluesKaj> not
[13:02] <naught101> BluesKaj: righto, I will give legacy a go in the morning.
[13:41] <jhello> hello?
[13:42] <jhello> I am setting up nfs,what should I set the Domain in /etc/idmapd.conf?
[14:18] <vimar> I've messed my panel somehow, probably removed some widget and now some application lik Ktorent are not showed as minimalised.
[16:38] <jackyalcine> vijay13: you want the System Tray widget
[16:55] <krise> does anybody know how to set up Lemon POS
[17:19] <Shura> Hi, since last updates, my NFS shares are not auto mounted at boot. I have to "sudo mount -a" every time.
[17:20] <Shura> Is there a way to fix nfs mount or launch "sudo mount -a" after the boot (without entering the password) ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> Shura, set it up in /etc/fstab , like so: nfs-server:/   /mnt   nfs    auto  0  0
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Shura, this is my reference URL for NFS setup, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[17:29] <Shura> BluesKaj: Yes, that's the way i set it up. It'as been like that for years, and now, since 1 or 2 weeks, it doesn't mount anymore. But fstab is still ok beacause when I mount -a it works fine
[17:30] <Shura> That's weird
[17:43] <walcol> hallo
[18:40] <Engel> hello, I got a question about Kate: is it possible to run my javascript into it ?
[18:40] <Engel> sorry if it's stupid but i didn't found the answer
[18:42] <BluesKaj> Engel, yes
[18:42] <Engel> BluesKaj: how can I do ?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> Engel, http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/applications/kate/dev-scripting.html
[18:45] <Engel> I already saw that, but that's for scripting in Kate
[18:45] <Engel> what I need is to execute my javascript
[18:45] <Engel> inside Kate
[18:46] <Engel> instead of a browser for exemple
[19:02] <BluesKaj> Engel, ok sorry I misunderstood your question
[19:03] <Engel> BluesKaj: no prob, it seems that's not really possible in Kate to do it
[19:03] <Engel> thanks anyway :)
[19:04] <lordievader> Engel: I'm just being curious, why do you want Kate to run Javascript?
[19:05] <Engel> I like to use Kate but I'm not familiar at all with js, I was just wondering what's the best solution to code in ecmascript
[19:08] <lordievader> Engel: It calls itself the
[19:09] <lordievader>  'language of the web', wouldn't it be a better idea to install apache or lighthttpd?
[19:32] <Engel> lordievader: I found what I looked for: http://jsfiddle.net/ :)
[19:32] <Engel> but thxs !
[20:29] <sanya> у кого звуковая HDA Intel может кто подскажет , у меня микрофон не роботает
[20:29] <Unit193> !ru
[20:43] <lynn_> I'd like to know why Kubuntu recommends its 32-bit version when the 64-bit one is available for a 64-bit system.
[20:47] <lordievader> lynn_: There was a discussion about it a few months back: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2013-September/007305.html
 what was the result, consensus (?) of that discussion?
[20:55] <lordievader> lynn_: Err, can't remember. Thought it had to do with supporting older pc's.
  Sorry.  I just saw your link.  I've clicked it and now will read it.  Thanks.
[20:56] <lordievader> lynn_: No problem.
  However, do you know of any real reason not to use the 64-bit version on a powerful enough 64-bit machine?
[20:57] <lordievader> lynn_: Driver compatibility (though you shouldn't face that nowadays). If your machine only has 2GB of ram 32bit is in some cases faster than 64bit.
[20:57] <lordievader> lynn_: I'd say if you can go 64bit, go 64bit.
[20:58] <ElTimo> KDE keeps erasing my audio settings every half hour or so.
[20:59] <ElTimo> How do I make it not do that so I can get through my day without hurling my computer through a wall?
[20:59] <lynn_> lordiever:  I have the capacity for 4GB of ram but am down ot three now.  Eventually, I'll get it back up.  Shouldn't that be ok?'
[20:59] <lordievader> lynn_: I'm not really sure what you are planning.
[20:59] <lynn_> But I'm thinking of putting it on my auxiliary unit, which has only two gigs of ram.  I guess you'd suggest the 32-bit version for that one, eh?
[21:00] <lordievader> lynn_: For two GB it doesn't really matter. Both will do.
[21:00] <lordievader> (If the cpu supports it, that is)
[21:00] <lynn_> Ah, the cpu does support it; it's a 64-bit system, too.
[21:02] <lynn_> lordievader:  I see that you're in the Netherlands.  Did you see Amira Willighagen's performances on HGT?
[21:03] <lynn_> That's Holland's Got Talent.
[21:03] <lordievader> lynn_: Never heard of her, but that is more a topic for #kubuntu-devel
[21:04] <lynn_> What is #kubuntu-devel?  Wouldn't that be for developers?
[21:04] <lordievader> lynn_: Err that should be #kubuntu-offtopic ... -.-
[21:05] <lynn_> Ah, ok.
[21:05] <lordievader> Suppose my mind if falling asleep.
[21:05] <lynn_> Nah, you're good.
[21:06] <lynn_> Anyway, thanks.  I believe you've answered my question.
[22:52] <z3r0> Hi can someone help me (hi kann mir jemand bei einem Problem helfen)
[22:53] <z3r0> Trotzdem das ich libdvd css installiert habe kann ich keine dvds abspielen
[22:53] <z3r0> kennt sich da jemand aus
[22:54] <z3r0> I have install Libdvdcss but dvd playback dont work is there some one who can help me THX
[23:03] <elfadili> Hi =)
[23:34] <tertu> so I'm trying to set up a shared connection
[23:35] <tertu> in an attempt to allow wireless devices to use my ethernet connection
[23:35] <tertu> problem is i cannot figure out how to enable the shared connection.
[23:35] <tertu> it doesn't show up in the list and there's no way to enable it from the connection editor.
[23:53] <Dutchman> It's not quite that easy to do tertu, but here's a link that will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[23:57] <tertu> the problem is
[23:57] <tertu> i can create an adhoc connection
[23:57] <tertu> i cannot enable it
[23:58] <Dutchman> Are you trying as root, or as your user?