[01:05]  * dsmythies does not know why or how he became dsmythies1
[01:10] <dsmythies> shaunm: Are you around?
[01:20] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: Are you around?
[01:26] <ahoneybun> yea
[01:29] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: It looks to me as though that bug reporting area you referred to yesterday was shutdown on purpose.
[01:29] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: Probably when the kubuntu docs project on launchpad was shutdown.
[01:29] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: The note that was left there says to use the kubuntu-docs package bug reporting system instead
[01:29] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: I do observe that the package bug reporting system seems to be working fine. ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs )
[01:29] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: I do not know if it makes sense to re-enable https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs for a project that doesn't exisit in lauanchpad anymore (at least that is my understanding).
[01:41] <ahoneybun> it does exisit
[01:42] <ahoneybun> exist
[01:42] <ahoneybun> we uploaded the 13.10 version of the docs package there
[01:44] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: a package and a project are not the same thing. Are you saying there is still a project? I thought the project was at some other website.
[01:47] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: there has been no activity on the project since 2013.04.12
[01:55] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: However, I do observe the "package" upload of 2013.10.17.
[01:58] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: What I am saying is that I think the appropriate bug reporting system is working.
[01:59] <ahoneybun> just that the other page has old bugs dealing with the old docs not our redesign
[02:01] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: And you don't have suffiecent rights to deal with them? Is that the root issue?
[02:06] <ahoneybun> yes I would like the kubuntu-docs page to have bug reporting on so we can track current bugs
[02:15] <dsmythies> ahoneybun: There are only 14 active bugs against the package. My input is to deal with them (set to invalid with some note as to why) and move on.
[02:19] <ahoneybun> only like 2 are to the new doc package
[17:30] <dsmythies> godbyk: Installation guide update: I did hear back from the guy. He could not fix build issues. I just got it to build, and hope to now toss it back to him.
[19:09] <godbyk> dsmythies: Okay, cool. Thanks for following up on that.
[19:10] <shaunm> dsmythies: you pinged me earlier?
[19:12] <dsmythies> shaunm: Recall that we were having some dicussions about yelp-tools and some changes we hoped would make it into 14.04.
[19:12] <dsmythies> shaunm: Recall also that I am currently compiling using the development branch of yelp-tools (although I'm not sure I am updating everything correctly).
[19:12] <dsmythies> shaunm: godbyk had suggested that I try to get some action at Debian upstream to include the newer yelp-tools. Which I did not do yet, because I was hoping to include some things we were talking about.
[19:12] <dsmythies> shaunm: I did not realize until yesterday that "Debian Import Freeze" is on February 6th. So now I am worried that we will miss out on what we want for yelp-tools.
[19:12] <dsmythies> shaunm: It will be a problem for some of our html compile issues.
[19:12] <dsmythies> shaunm: It is not clear to me how to proceed or what to do.
[19:29] <shaunm> dsmythies: fixed the code watermark thing. remind me what else you needed
[19:33] <dsmythies> shaunm: The code watermark thing was still there a couple of days ago, and after I did "git pull" etc. Was it since then? (but I might not be updating everything that I thought I was updating, but only realized that a day ago).
[19:33] <shaunm> dsmythies: I fixed it just now
[19:34] <adalberto> I want to share folders between windows xp and ubuntu 13.10 using my hostname whith samba, but when I try to do it it ask me for a password that I don't know, when I do it using my ip address it works excellent...
[19:37] <dsmythies> shaunm: There is still an issue with conditionals and possibly "unmatched block elements" errors. However, I fixed it by nuking the conditionals in display-dual-monitors.page.
[19:39] <dsmythies> shaunm: There was also something you mentioned on IRC, but I'll have to find it to remind myself. It would result in our (ubuntu) being able to get rid of some file. (not important, I suppose, since we have the workaround already)
[19:40] <dsmythies> shaunm: I'll try another "gut pull" etc. shortly.
[19:41] <adalberto> Well I gotta go... Sorry, you can help later
[19:44] <dsmythies> shaunm: reference for "block elements" thing: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/trusty/revision/338
[19:49] <shaunm> dsmythies: that's not really a bug. conditionals are working exactly as specified.
[19:50] <shaunm> there's always a possibility of making conditionals able to do more, but that's a mallard enhancement, not a yelp-tools bug.
[19:50] <dsmythies> shaunm: Source file presense check, maybe optional. When you checked it was already on your "TODO" list. Reference: 19:55 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/17/%23ubuntu-doc.html
[19:51] <dsmythies> shaunm: Ah yes, I recall now, I think it was xltproc that was getting confused.
[19:58] <dsmythies> shaunm: There was also some discussion on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/16/%23ubuntu-doc.html around 18:30 "I'll cook up a patch for the mal2html.page.linktrails.trail override. that one's easy to fix, because I already added an extension point for exactly that purpose. The other one is hard."
[20:01] <dsmythies> shaunm: I'll need some time to update the tools and try builds and examine stuff to see where things are at.
[20:04] <dsmythies> pleia2: Re: some of our off-list e-mails and to gnome sync or not. The unmatched block elements issue discussed above is just one example of why it no longer makes sense (in my mind) to synch with gnome.
[20:13] <pleia2> dsmythies: thanks :) no bother either way, I'm just keeping an eye out for when we need folks to: 1. review for accuracy for 14.04 2. general review for grammar, etc
[20:15] <dsmythies> pleia2: I'll make sure it is an agenda item for the meeting.
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm: Would you consider to implement: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709943 ?
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm: Becuase it is very trivial.
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm: The guy asked me to submit a patch against git, but I said no, because it would take me about 40 times longer than someone already familiar with that system.
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm: If you don't want to, then O.K., becuase the workaround is already in place anyhow.
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm:
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm: I am still getting compile errors related to missing files as per: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1232708
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm: However, there seems to be a secondary issue, where there is another call to the .page file in question, without conditional code.
[21:20] <ubot2`> Gnome bug 709943 in DocBook "yelp-xsl/xslt/common/html.xsl missing a fundamental docbook tag conversion" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm: This will take me a bit to sort out.
[21:20] <dsmythies> godbyk: shaunm: pleia2: Recall the ongoing discussions about synching with GNOME and such going forward? godbyk and I and a little shaunm here on IRC. pleia2 and I a little on off-list e-mails.
[21:20] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1232708 in Ubuntu Documentation "Some GNOME only help showing up in Unity help (13.10)" [Undecided,In progress]
[21:20] <dsmythies> godbyk: shaunm: pleia2: Lyz pointed out, correctly so, that a final decision by stake holders had not been agreed to, even though Kevin and I sort of did make a sort of plan going forward.
[21:20] <dsmythies> godbyk: shaunm: pleia2: While we can decide once and for all at the meeting, for the above mentioned issues, which result in erronious information in yelp help and html and attempts to
[21:20] <dsmythies> godbyk: shaunm: pleia2: include png files that are not, and should not be, present I will proceed to fix the files without using conditionals.
[21:20] <dsmythies> shaunm: I'll need more time to finish the review of where we are at. (like several hours, because some not ubuntu chores await attention).
[21:21] <pleia2> thanks for all your work on this dsmythies :)