[01:06] <rai_> about to install ubuntu on my galaxy nexus
[03:26] <rylo_> does anyone have any advice for installing ubuntu touch on a new Nexus 7 (2013?)? I have tried and failed serveral times. I followed the instructions for the grouper install and some other methods as well
[03:26] <rylo_> I mean any links to guides, etc...
[10:22] <curious_> hello I'm a beginner and not to sure on how to make heads or tales of this but I'm it rested in innovation and I feel this is it . my question is how do I begin?
[10:23] <curious_> oops intrested
[13:33] <Berry> hej there, i am willing to try ubuntu on my 10" android tab
[13:34] <Berry> anyone got experience with a 2012 TomTec ATP7526 Ultimate10?
[15:33] <FuLgOrE> has anybody seen rsalveti today? I really would like to know if he already tried his N5 image on his N5
[15:42] <shiggitay> rsalveti finally got an N5 eh
[15:43] <shiggitay> hi FuLgOrE
[15:43] <FuLgOrE> yes, hi shiggitay
[15:43] <FuLgOrE> he bought one. good for us, I hope. I would like to help more, but I guess I can only test
[15:44] <shiggitay> yea
[15:45] <FuLgOrE> I have a lot of time until tuesday evening
[15:45] <FuLgOrE> to I could test a lot :D
[15:50] <asad2005> I have installed touch dual boot on top of CM11, now i cannot update CM11 as the default boot is ubuntu. How can i change default boot to CM11 for future update?
[16:06] <Tassadar> FuLgOrE: does latest rootfs ZIP boot for you on N5?
[16:06] <FuLgOrE> I didn't try because I used apt-get
[16:06] <FuLgOrE> should I try?
[16:08] <FuLgOrE> Tassadar: The image I used was the second image from ogra_
[16:08] <Tassadar> hmm, it wouldn't boot for me when I used apt-get from older image either
[16:08] <Tassadar> yeah, mine too
[16:08] <FuLgOrE> I can check the md5sum
[16:08] <FuLgOrE> one moment
[16:09] <FuLgOrE> 8c6246c6543a1fe83cb283d00da3e097
[16:09] <FuLgOrE> this one boots for me
[16:09] <FuLgOrE> do you use mutli boot? I red somewhere that apt get will not work with dual boot
[16:10] <FuLgOrE> Tassadar: what exactly is your problem? Can you enter adb shell?
[16:11] <thomas> Hi all
[16:11] <Tassadar> yeah, I can, and unity won't start - log says maliit-server keeps crashing
[16:11] <Guest12513> I'm trying to flash ubuntu touch on my nexus 73g. but now I see only "google" splash screen and nothing else
[16:11] <Guest12513> what to do now ?
[16:12] <FuLgOrE> once I had a problem that mir didn't work. so I removed the .display-mir file rebooted with surfaceflinger and later I touched .display-mir again and it worked
[16:13] <FuLgOrE> but I didn't try to check why this happened, because I was focusing on the wifi thing
[16:14] <FuLgOrE> Guest12513: Sorry, I only have the not supported N5 so I use an other way to flash it. I cannot help :-/
[16:14] <FuLgOrE> *not official
[16:14] <Tassadar> it does that with both surfaceflinger and mir
[16:14] <FuLgOrE> strange
[16:14] <Tassadar> FuLgOrE: how long ago did you do apt-get dist-upgrade last time?
[16:15] <FuLgOrE> I would say around 5-6 hours before
[16:15] <FuLgOrE> I can do it again, if you like
[16:15] <FuLgOrE> last time there was nothing to update
[16:15] <Tassadar> yeah, please do
[16:17] <FuLgOrE> i'm updating. it will take a while (damn internet connection)
[16:18] <FuLgOrE> 16kb/s...
[16:26] <asad2005> I have installed touch dual boot on top of CM11, now i cannot update CM11 as the default boot is ubuntu. How can i change default boot to CM11 for future update?
[16:33] <FuLgOrE> Tassadar: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:34] <FuLgOrE> Tassadar: btw: Fetched 14.5 MB in 16min 54s (14.3 kB/s)
[16:34] <Tassadar> chm, weird
[16:34] <Tassadar> thanks
[16:34] <FuLgOrE> no problem
[16:34] <FuLgOrE> I'm using the new boot.img and system.img from rsalveti
[16:34] <Guest12513> adb push /path/to/your/downloaded/trusty-preinstalled-touch-armel+grouper.zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip cannot stat '/path/to/your/downloaded/trusty-preinstalled-touch-armel+grouper.zip': No such file or directory
[16:35] <Guest12513> what to do ?
[16:35] <FuLgOrE> but they should have fixed the brighness issue, as far as I know, nothing else
[16:35] <FuLgOrE> exchange the /path/to/..../ to your real path ;-)
[16:37] <Guest12513> for e.g cd Download ?
[16:38] <Guest12513> starting with /home ? or what? please give an e.g ?
[16:38] <FuLgOrE> if your username is thomas, then try /home/thomas/Downloads/ and so on
[16:40] <FuLgOrE> so, I will go now, bye
[16:40] <Guest12513> doesn't work
[16:41] <Guest12513> ok. it seems to work
[16:52] <faisal_> m
[16:55] <DonkeyHotei> is there a procedure for installing Touch on an x86 tablet?
[16:56] <popey> no
[16:56] <DonkeyHotei> so the packages are not in the repos?
[16:57] <popey> sure, you can install unity8 and the other bits and bobs
[16:57] <popey> but we don't have a "procedure" for installing on x86 tablet which was what you asked
[16:57] <DonkeyHotei> can tasksel do that?
[16:58] <popey> try it, write it up and then we'll have a procedure ☻
[16:59] <DonkeyHotei> is there a touch task in tasksel to grab the needed pkgs?
[17:00] <popey> there's an ubuntu-touch package
[17:00] <DonkeyHotei> and it installs everything?
[17:00] <popey> i dont know, I haven't tried it
[17:01] <popey> but it looks like it pulls in a lot of related stuff
[17:12] <shiggitay> Tassadar, hmm fulgore left but I wanted to say that I won't bother installing UT again until it's documentedly functional and worth my tim
[17:12] <shiggitay> e
[17:13] <shiggitay> I have high hopes for it
[18:08] <robert1> hi guys, i installed ubuntu touch on a nexus4. i use 12.04 on a notebook and do it with this manual: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install . i became an error
[18:09] <robert1> the error sounds like i have unmet dependencies
[18:11] <robert1> because click is not in the official repositories in 12.04
[18:12] <robert1> i helped myself with adding the Ubuntu SDK Release PPA
[18:14] <robert1> the original error-message is in german http://paste.ubuntu.com/6809678/
[18:16] <robert1> i think it is a bug in ppa:phablet-team/tools
[19:01] <willman> hi everyone
[19:12] <Ruturaj> hello
[19:41] <willman> hi
[19:44] <shiggitay> hello willman
[19:46] <willman> tell me, i got htc beat one, and can i install ubuntu-touch
[19:47] <shiggitay> willman, when someone ports to it sure
[19:51] <willman> i gotta go
[19:51] <shiggitay> heh
[19:51] <shiggitay> bye
[20:03] <glfados> is there anyway i can compile full ubuntu touch myself??? (i mean they say that images are builded in canonical data center, and i wanna build it myself)
[20:04] <shiggitay> glfados, you can compile the android driver subsystem
[20:04] <shiggitay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building
[20:04] <shiggitay> but as for the actual UT OS, I dunno
[20:04] <popey> of course
[20:05] <glfados> popey so can i?
[20:06] <popey> sure, the  packages are built from source code hosted on launchpad
[20:06] <shiggitay> haha popey I don't think that's what he's asking about
[20:07] <shiggitay> he wants to take that source code and build it all himself if I'm not mistaken
[20:07] <glfados> yes
[20:07] <popey> yes. thats what I understood it to mean
[20:07] <popey> I didn't read it any other way
[20:07] <shiggitay> okay haha
[20:08] <popey> i was just clairfying that yes, you can build the packages, given thats what we do.. build the packages from *source code* hosted on launchpad
[20:08] <glfados> but is there any single command to download all these source packages???
[20:08] <popey> not really
[20:08] <popey> I mean, you could craft one ☻
[20:10] <glfados> so i need to download all these 387 packages manually :(
[20:10] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6863448/
[20:10] <DonkeyHotei> popey: are there any ppa's pre-enabled on a stock touch install?
[20:11] <popey> People tend to script stuff to automate a task they do regularly. Nobody I know regularly pulls all the packages in Ubuntu touch and builds them all
[20:11] <popey> that paste is a list of every deb on an ubuntu touch phone
[20:11] <popey> (currently)
[20:11] <popey> I dont think so DonkeyHotei
[20:12] <popey> glfados: whats the goal?
[20:14] <glfados> i want to fork it for personal use (like cyanogenmod from android, but for personal)
[20:14] <popey> ok
[20:15] <popey> its under active development so you'd constantly be playing catch up as package versions change from one image to another
[20:17] <DonkeyHotei> popey: is that paste from saucy, or trusty?
[20:17] <popey> trusty
[20:17] <popey> latest image
[20:17] <popey> but as you can see from http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/ - it changes daily
[20:17] <popey> (less so on sundays) :D
[20:45] <DonkeyHotei> trusty does not seem to come up graphically under virtualbox
[20:49] <popey> DonkeyHotei: desktop
[20:49] <popey> ?
[20:53] <DonkeyHotei> neither desktop nor touch
[20:53] <DonkeyHotei> lightdm fails to start
[21:35] <aquarius> popey, oi, what's wrong with my mum's fab lemon meringue pie?
[21:35] <shiggitay> o.O
[21:36] <popey> aquarius: it doesn't have enough of your face in it
[21:36] <aquarius> there is, however, plenty of it in my face. :)
[21:36] <popey> I imagine the pie tastes delicious, it certainly looks it.
[21:36] <popey> haha
[21:37] <aquarius> it most certainly is delicious. my mum's a genius :)
[21:39] <popey> :D
[21:40] <shiggitay> aquarius, mum? are you a brit/aussie/ xD
[21:41] <aquarius> I am indeed English. :)
[21:41] <shiggitay> groovy
[21:41] <shiggitay> :)
[21:41] <aquarius> "mom" is an abomination unto god. :)
[21:41] <popey> +1
[21:41] <shiggitay> lol
[21:41] <popey> where "god" is an abomination unto the flying spaghetti monster
[21:42] <shiggitay> yum
[21:42] <aquarius> it's turtles all the way down
[21:42] <shiggitay> TMNT?!
[21:42] <shiggitay> jk
[21:53] <s0u][ight> guys, congratz on the 4.4 codebase and new nexus 7 support, didn't expect that to happen so fast :)
[21:54] <shiggitay> s0u][ight, heh rsalveti is working on a Nexus 5 build as well
[21:55] <s0u][ight> keep it up folks
[21:55] <shiggitay> xD
[21:55] <s0u][ight> what is the difference between ubuntu-touch and ubuntu for android?
[21:56] <popey> Ubuntu Touch is ubuntu on a device.. ubuntu for android is a device booting android, with Ubuntu desktop on top
[21:56] <shiggitay> beat me to it
[21:56] <shiggitay> xD
[21:57] <s0u][ight> popey: and there was ubuntu for nexus 7, the complete desktop afaik, that was a neat project, discontinued unfortunately
[21:57] <s0u][ight> i wish i could use my tablet as a complete desktop
[21:57] <popey> yeah
[21:57] <popey> desktops don't work well on touch devices
[21:57] <popey> hence ubuntu touch
[21:58] <s0u][ight> popey: physical keyboard + mouse :)
[21:59] <popey> true
[21:59] <popey> tiny low-res screen though
[21:59] <DonkeyHotei> it would be nice to put ubuntu touch on the M$ Surface Pro 2, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1248958 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1248917
[22:25] <thomasthomas> I have problem with flashing ubuntu touch on Nexus 7 3g
[22:25] <thomasthomas> can anybody help me ?
[22:26] <thomasthomas> after "sudo phablet-flash ubuntu-system --no-backup -d grouper"  -> flashing. all good. I get "INFO:phablet-flash:Installation complete Removing directory /tmp/tmpMeM0pk Removing directory /tmp/tmpqbjKrv"
[22:27] <popey> you dont need sudo
[22:27] <popey> for one thing
[22:27] <thomasthomas> but after that it stuck on google screen
[22:27] <thomasthomas> ok. but without "sudo" its the same
[22:27] <popey> wait, it takes a while
[22:27] <aquarius> Can Ubuntu on my Nexus 4 see files that I've downloaded onto the phone when it's booted into Android?
[22:28] <popey> aquarius: dual boot mode? probably, but you'd need to mount the android bit of the disk
[22:28] <thomasthomas> popey. so you thing, that it all good - but now I have to wait ?
[22:29] <thomasthomas> think*
[22:29] <aquarius> popey, yeah, that's what I was thinking. But isn't there some Android running which uses the Android bit of the disk? I fear mounting it twice and so corrupting things or creating a wormhole and so destroying the universe or something
[22:29] <popey> thomasthomas: how long have you waited?
[22:29] <thomasthomas> ok. but i'm waiting 30 min and still stuck google screen
[22:29] <popey> aquarius: you can mount ro
[22:30] <aquarius> popey, hm, sneaky. How does , for example, the media scanner cope with data on an extra mount point which might not be there sometimes? (After I reboot, for example, I'd need to mount it again, probably)
[22:31] <popey> mediascanner looks in specific directories
[22:31] <popey> don't mount under there ☻
[22:31] <popey> and mediascanner spots when stuff goes away
[22:33] <popey> https://telegram.org/
[22:33] <popey> someone should port that
[22:33] <popey> "open API"
[22:34] <popey> "open protocol"
[22:34] <popey> right up your street aquarius ☻
[22:34] <aquarius> ah
[22:34] <aquarius> I looked at that
[22:34] <aquarius> and I read a couple of reviews about it which suggested that the team doing it have no idea what they're doing, cryptographically.
[22:35] <aquarius> I am myself totally unable to assess whether they are or not
[22:35] <aquarius> but if people are disagreeing about whether the crypto is a good idea, then I should stay away, in my opinion. :)
[22:38] <popey> ☻
[22:40] <thomasthomas> how long should I wait for first boot ubuntu touch after complete flashing ?
[22:40] <thomasthomas> becuase i think it stuck on google screen
[22:45] <popey> thomasthomas: from your pc run "adb shell"
[22:45] <popey> thomasthomas: do you get an ubuntu prompt or a busybox one?
[22:48] <thomasthomas> adb shell   BusyBox v1.20.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.20.0-8.1ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)
[22:50] <popey> hm
[22:50] <popey> sounds unwell
[22:50] <thomasthomas> what to do now ?
[22:50] <popey> i dont have a nexus 7 handy (it's a few thousand miles away) so I can't confirm it or really debug
[22:51] <thomasthomas> it's 3g version
[22:51] <thomasthomas> that the problem
[22:52] <popey> no idea, i only have the wifi one
[22:52] <popey> never tried the 3g version
[22:52] <popey> its a 2012 one right? not the new 2013 one?
[22:53] <thomasthomas> 2012
[22:53] <popey> right
[23:01] <thomasthomas> do you know something about this thing: $abootimg -x saucy-preinstalled-system-armel+grouper.img ?
[23:02] <popey> nope