[10:00] <charl_> good morning
[10:00] <charl_> Maaz_: coffee on
[10:00]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[10:04] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[10:18] <theblazehen> hey charl_ 
[10:18] <theblazehen> hey smile 
[10:19] <charl_> hi smile 
[10:19] <charl_> hi theblazehen 
[10:19] <charl_> theblazehen: did the server come back up ?
[10:19] <theblazehen> charl_, nope :(
[10:19] <theblazehen> Got DDOS'd 
[10:19] <charl_> oh but then it wasn't related to dns, was it ?
[10:19] <theblazehen> provider can only give new IP on moday
[10:19] <smile> hi ! :)
[10:20] <theblazehen> nope, not dns
[10:20] <theblazehen> DDOS started within minutes of us changing DNS...
[10:20] <charl_> theblazehen: the place where i work got ddosed with a 20gbps peak over the december holiday
[10:20] <theblazehen> charl_, damn...
[10:20] <charl_> theblazehen: fortunately our external capacity is twice that at 40gbps but the core router got unstable
[10:20] <theblazehen> lol
[10:21] <theblazehen> Haha, our idiots were doing udp port 80
[10:21] <theblazehen> like, why not TCP ?
[10:21] <charl_> udp? so you can filter out udp packets? nice
[10:21] <charl_> yeah udp is easier for idiots
[10:21] <theblazehen> charl_, you can filter them?
[10:21] <theblazehen> ah
[10:21] <charl_> these days you get these dns reflection attacks or ntp spoof attacks
[10:22] <theblazehen> yeah, all UDP those
[10:22] <theblazehen> But TCP port 80 would probably kill web server
[10:22] <charl_> the isp should be able to filter those out at a higher level
[10:22] <theblazehen> which was the target
[10:22] <charl_> that would make filtering harder
[10:22] <theblazehen> oh, well hosting company is shit... so.
[10:23] <charl_> but you need to go and do deep packet inspection
[10:23] <charl_> there are probably some other attributes too that you can filter out
[10:23] <charl_> in case it was tcp
[10:23] <charl_> guys like cloudflare are good at mitigating ddos
[10:23] <theblazehen> yeah
[10:23] <charl_> but if they know the ip behind cloudflare you're toast
[10:23] <theblazehen> we were moving DNS over to cloudflare when DDOS started...
[10:23] <charl_> so you have to hide that ip really well
[10:24] <charl_> well both dns and their reverse proxy you will need
[10:24] <theblazehen> yeah
[10:24] <charl_> and don't enable the direct. subdomain
[10:24] <charl_> because then they can find your real ip again :)
[10:24] <charl_> i was surprised when cloudflare enabled that by default
[10:24] <theblazehen> "." subdomain?
[10:24] <charl_> they should warn
[10:25] <charl_> let's say you enable example.com then they create direct.example.com pointing to the original ip
[10:25] <theblazehen> yea
[10:25] <charl_> you can disable that by removing the entry on cloudflare
[10:25] <charl_> otherwise they can find your original ip address easily
[10:26] <theblazehen> ah, yes
[10:26] <theblazehen> BBIAB, shortening my ethernet cable
[10:27] <charl_> lol
[10:48] <Kilos> hi all
[10:50] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[10:51] <Golynx> Guess what i did yesterday, to solve that issue of something that cost me 70MB of data
[10:51] <Kilos> what was it?
[10:52] <Kilos> i gotta go eat
[10:52] <Kilos> wbb
[10:52] <Golynx> spent all day in the main #ubuntu channel trying to figure out what was caussing it 
[10:52] <Golynx> ok
[13:42] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[13:42] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[13:46] <charl_> :)
[13:46] <charl_> roomba busy cleaning the house agaion
[13:46] <charl_> *again
[13:46] <Kilos> :-)
[13:46] <charl_> while i sit and watch tv :P
[13:46] <Kilos> haha
[13:46] <charl_> actually not a tv, just an external screen connected to my laptop
[13:47] <charl_> iptv ftw :)
[13:52] <psydroid1> hi charl_ 
[13:52] <psydroid1> hi Kilos 
[13:52] <Kilos> hi psydroid1 
[13:52] <psydroid1> oh
[13:53] <charl_> hi psydroid 
[14:02] <Golynx> hi charl_ and psydroid
[14:12] <Golynx> So Kilos did you guess what the issue was ?
[14:13] <Golynx> hi Xethron
[14:13] <Kilos> no
[14:14] <Golynx> I was lucky that someone from #ubuntu helped me to track down that process that was eating my data
[14:15] <Kilos> have you written down how to track it
[14:15] <Kilos> and what was it
[14:15] <Golynx> we found the process id of the culprit and was able to find the location and program that was responsible
[14:16] <Kilos> good and what was it
[14:16] <Golynx> Clamav was constantly downloading new virus definitions every 30 minutes
[14:16] <Golynx> I never installed it 
[14:17] <psydroid> hi Golynx 
[14:17] <psydroid> hi Xethron 
[14:18] <Kilos> must have been part of what i had installed
[14:18] <Golynx> There was no mension of Clamav in the programs list or anywhere, to help me configure it to another update time. So i searched for it in Synaptic and removed every single trace of it 
[14:18] <Kilos> you can remove clamtk and clamav
[14:18] <Kilos> good
[14:19] <Golynx> Freshclam came up at the process id time of the search, but freshclam is the update helper for clamav  
[14:20] <Golynx> I didnt knew what it was until that guy told me its an antivirus program
[14:20] <Golynx> 70MB gone to waste. Only 20 left till the 15th 
[14:22] <Golynx> but ya its ok i will live
[14:25] <Kilos> weird it used so much
[14:25] <Kilos> freshclam updates are minimal
[14:27] <Kilos> i have it running here to check emails from dubious places\
[14:27] <Golynx> At times when i wasnt looking at itop i caught it downloading around 15MB of stuff. 
[14:27] <Kilos> wow
[14:28] <Kilos> ya then better removed
[14:28] <Golynx> had to disconnect to stop it, but it came back every 30 minutes
[14:28] <Kilos> just freshclam removal should stop that
[14:29] <Trixar_za> Oo
[14:29] <Golynx> I dont want antivirus programs now, maybe in the future when i got a reason to have them 
[14:29] <Trixar_za> Yeah, it's kind of a waste
[14:30] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[14:30] <somaunn> hi nuvolari
[14:30] <somaunn> hi Squirm
[14:30] <somaunn> hi Golynx
[14:30] <Trixar_za> Linux can't get Windows viruses (only spread them if you forward an infected mail to someone)
[14:30] <Golynx> hi Trixar_za
[14:30] <somaunn> hi nlsthzn_
[14:30] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[14:30] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[14:30] <Golynx> Hi somaunn
[14:31] <Trixar_za> And the handful of active Linux ones (around 40 if memory serves), most can only do damage if you give it permission to do so.
[14:31] <Trixar_za> Hey Golynx, somaunn and Kilos
[14:32] <Trixar_za> Half the reason I don't like Puppy's root-by-default thing
[14:33] <Golynx> Ya Trixar_za thats true. If it was windows i wouldve kept it, had Avira antivirus on that one. 
[14:36] <Trixar_za> I think Avira makes a Linux version now, but it's similiar to Flash - it's precompiled and closed source
[14:38] <Golynx> Thats good , maybe some people will use it.
[14:45] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[14:45] <theblazehen> hey Kik
[14:45] <theblazehen> Kilos*
[14:45] <Kilos> hehe
[14:47] <Golynx> hi theblazehen
[14:48] <theblazehen> hey Golynx 
[14:49] <theblazehen> brb
[14:49] <Kilos> hey Golynx what would you send the 11.3 kb/s signal through to kill mosquitos
[14:49] <Kilos> speaker?
[14:51] <Kilos> kB/s
[14:52] <Golynx> the frequency that drives them away is between 30 and 40Hz . Its usually sent through a speaker 
[14:54] <theblazehen> Golynx, whats that?
[14:55] <Golynx> its best to oscillate in that frequency range , since picking one frequency wont be successfull
[14:55] <Golynx> theblazehen: its a sonic insect repeller
[14:56] <Kilos> i have a sig gen that i can experiment on i just wondered what to send it through
[14:56] <Kilos> one site onle showed some thing in a glass tube
[14:58] <Golynx> you need a vibrating mechanism to achieve such a sound frequency
[14:58] <Kilos> and i hink the frequency they gave was 11.3 kB/s
[14:59] <Kilos> ill try find it
[14:59] <Golynx> speakers is the general tool for that
[14:59] <Golynx> hmm that must be in the electronics
[15:00] <Kilos> thats great i can vary frequency from 0 to 30meg
[15:00] <Golynx> the generated sound is in Hertz
[15:01] <Golynx> ok good
[15:03] <Kilos> gotta find the frequency counter too so i know what is where
[15:04] <Golynx> I just need 2 NPN transistors , 2 100UF capacitors , 2 10k OHM resistors , a high frequency speaker and a 9 volt or 6 volt battery
[15:04] <Kilos> over 30 year old pieces of equipment
[15:04] <Golynx> that is enough to make any dog run and weee at the same time :)
[15:04] <Kilos> lol
[15:04] <Kilos> you wanna chase dogs or mosquitos?
[15:05] <Golynx> lol nope , but dogs can hear that same range of frequencies the mosquitos do
[15:06] <Kilos> ah
[15:06] <Golynx> That will do perfectly , if you know how to 
[15:07] <Golynx> i built the same little circuit 20 years ago with only 6 components and worked great
[15:08] <Golynx> but you gotta use a variable resistor, like the volume dial on a radio, to run through the frequencies and set the right one to drive the insects off
[15:09] <Kilos> mail me the circuit diagram lemme try it , got lotsa eletronic spares
[15:10] <Kilos> ya i got pots and everything
[15:10] <Kilos> and maybe even some varicaps orund somewhere
[15:16] <Golynx> thats great, i remember how the circuit was layed out , its just the values of the components and type of transistor that i dont remember. 20 years ago i used to go to the library and found that in a book Sam's guide to electronics , was in versions 1,2 or 3. I think 2 . But i will find out if its available on the web. Its very easy to build though
[15:17] <Kilos> cool
[15:17] <Kilos> i need something that can chase midges and white fly. they bite me but no one else here
[15:20] <somaunn> Kilos: they are maybe MS spies
[15:20] <Golynx> oh thats bad
[15:20] <Kilos> lol
[15:20] <Golynx> lol
[15:20] <Kilos> yeah they are so tiny one can hardly see them but the bites are eina
[15:20] <somaunn> Kilos: need to look carefully and check if they've got sort of flag on them or not
[15:21] <Kilos> haha
[15:21] <somaunn> can we talk network security ?
[15:22] <Kilos> ya
[15:22] <Kilos> wi
[15:23] <somaunn> i really it but don't really have big knowledge and in the same time i'm deeply impressed of peoples really doing that
[15:23] <theblazehen> somaunn, what about it?
[15:24] <somaunn> want to understand where are we going with network security
[15:24] <Kilos> if you have a problem with something explain what the prob is and wait for one of the experts to see it
[15:25] <somaunn> i mean, we all know it's important to have good politic regarding the security of our network but in the real world what does it mean ?
[15:28] <Kilos> remember somaunn is french guys so explain things nicely
[15:34] <Golynx> Kilos would you know what the real components look like when viewed from a diagram
[15:35] <Kilos> i know what components look like. just need to know the diagram with what connects where
[15:36] <Golynx> thats good , i found this , it has some good examples you can test from www.sentex.ca/~mec1995/tutorial/xtor/xtor7/xtor7.html
[15:36] <Golynx> thats good , i found this , it has some good examples you can test from http://www.sentex.ca/~mec1995/tutorial/xtor/xtor7/xtor7.html
[15:36] <Kilos> was an electronics tech 40 years ago
[15:37] <Kilos> ty
[15:38] <Golynx> Nice it was fun being in that field back then, little to worry about. Until the IC came and made it boring 
[15:39] <Kilos> IC?
[15:39] <Kilos> oh ya
[15:39] <Kilos> made lots of things simpler and faster
[15:39] <Golynx> Intergrated Circuits
[15:39] <Golynx> or microchips
[15:39] <Golynx> ya true
[15:40] <Kilos> hard work trying to make trannies resistors and caps do the same work
[15:41] <Kilos> those ic's from then were lekker to work with you could solder them in yourself. now they have so many pins you cant get a soldering iron small enough
[15:43] <Golynx> lol ya , i built a cb radio reciever with a 555 chip i think it was, had only 16 pins
[15:45] <Kilos> lol
[15:45] <Golynx> Here is a good one too http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/worksheets/oscill.html
[15:45] <Kilos> i still have a cd radio in the storeroom somewhere
[15:46] <Golynx> haha ya amatuer radio was fun back then
[15:46] <Kilos> i dont want to learn about the stuff again. eye not good enough to do fine work
[15:47] <Kilos> i have a yaesu ft 200 as well
[15:48] <Kilos> wb theblazehen 
[15:48] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[15:48] <Golynx> If you already have a oscillator or multivibrator you can use that and just couple a high frequency speaker to it  
[15:49] <Golynx> hi nlsthzn
[15:49] <nlsthzn> aloa ll
[15:49] <nlsthzn> erm
[15:49] <nlsthzn> alo all
[15:49] <theblazehen> what happened? lol
[15:49] <theblazehen> ty Kilos 
[15:50] <Kilos> i have a belco sg 2030 signal generator that you can vary
[15:50] <Kilos> even has rf out sockets
[15:51] <Golynx> great thats perfect
[15:51] <Kilos> so speaker plugged in there should work
[15:52] <Kilos> have an amp somewhere as well so i could maybe push out 100 watts or more
[15:52] <Kilos> chase every noonoo in the surrounding district\
[15:53] <Kilos> hows nlsthzn 
[15:53] <Golynx> at the frequency you have to output the sound will bounce off the walls it wont reach other rooms
[15:53] <nlsthzn> I am ok thx
[15:54] <Kilos> well thats good too as long as the bugs stay away from me
[15:54] <Golynx> so its best to have noting blocking the output of the generator
[15:54] <Kilos> ya
[15:55] <Golynx> ya let them crawl back to MS 
[15:56] <Kilos> lol
[15:56] <Kilos> they fly
[15:57] <Kilos> crawlies you can stomp
[15:58] <Golynx> even the fly will start crawling , else it will be too dizzy to fly
[16:00] <Golynx> i regret abusing the neighborhood dogs now, for killing their eardrums 20 years ago lol
[16:01] <Golynx> but was fun to see them run and scream :D
[16:07] <Kilos> lol
[17:03] <magespawn> good evening
[17:09] <charl_> i magespawn 
[17:09] <charl_> hi
[17:10] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:11] <Golynx> hi magespawn
[17:12] <Kilos> oh charl_ another prob with too much off topic is that someone could have asked for help or something and its too much hassle to scroll back and see the days stuff so they dont get helped or whatever
[17:13] <Kilos> like the pro dont even scroll back anymore
[17:14] <charl_> Kilos: i'm not saying it is a bad idea, the other countries also have similar splitting
[17:14] <charl_> Kilos: but if we do it let's do it officially then
[17:14] <magespawn> hi charl Kilos Golynx 
[17:14] <charl_> Kilos: i think it's a great topic for the next meeting
[17:14] <charl_> Kilos: then let's take a vote and get a decision on it made
[17:15] <Kilos> add it to agenda then
[17:15] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[17:15] <charl_> Kilos: how do we do that?
[17:15] <Kilos> i dunno whats involved in getting official channels with buntu
[17:15] <somaunn> was a bit far from my desk
[17:15] <magespawn> hi somaunn 
[17:16] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/19ZrMER 
[17:16] <somaunn> hi magespawn
[17:16] <magespawn> maybe we can ask one of the higher ups
[17:16] <charl_> that's the page yes but how do we add items onto it
[17:16] <Kilos> there was a button or something
[17:16] <charl_> all the items there are by nuvolari
[17:17] <charl_> i don't see anything
[17:17] <Kilos> or tick on the last thing and an add option comes up
[17:17] <magespawn> you have to login on the top right hand side very small
[17:17] <charl_> nuvolari: you there?
[17:17] <charl_> bah i have to have an account on ubuntu one for it?
[17:17] <charl_> i had an account but i think it was under an old address
[17:21] <magespawn> i do not think that it is an ubuntu one account, i think this is run by superfly from a servers at uct or some such
[17:22] <charl_> no this is on loco.ubuntu.com that looks official
[17:22] <charl_> and when i click log in i get an ubuntu one thing
[17:25] <magespawn> so i see, i must have that cat by the tail then
[17:25] <charl_> lol
[17:25] <charl_> that is quite a good unix joke :)
[17:25] <charl_> first time i hear it now
[17:41] <magespawn> how is that a unix joke?
[17:41]  * Kilos was also wondering
[17:41] <magespawn> first time i heard it, was in afrikaans
[17:43] <Kilos> whew whats unix in afrikaans
[17:43] <Kilos> jyniks
[17:49] <somaunn> Kilos: lol
[17:49] <Golynx> lyk my jyt die kat aan die stert beet daar my boetie lol
[17:50] <magespawn> hah 
[17:53] <magespawn> nice
[17:57] <magespawn> just realized my ubuntu-za team membership had lapsed
[17:57] <magespawn> rejoined again
[17:58] <Kilos> haha mine was done also coupla days back
[17:58] <Kilos> is it yearly or 2 yearly
[17:59] <magespawn> i forget which, got the email, just forgot about till now
[17:59] <magespawn> like so many things
[17:59] <Kilos> lol, busy man
[18:03] <magespawn> well at least in my own mind
[18:03] <Kilos> hehe
[18:04] <Kilos> hmm... not_found lost again
[18:05] <magespawn> i getting a max ping time of 24000 ms to google.co.za
[18:05] <magespawn> madness
[18:05] <magespawn> and a min of 1716 ms
[18:06] <Kilos> 64 bytes from jnb01s01-in-f31.1e100.net (74.125.233.63): icmp_req=8 ttl=54 time=156 ms
[18:07] <Kilos> you doing it from terminal?
[18:07] <magespawn> yup
[18:07] <Kilos> something a bit sick there
[18:09] <magespawn> yup tablet says i am using hsdpa but i am beginning to doubt that
[18:14] <charl_> ok back
[18:14] <charl_> sorry was having dinner thewre
[18:14] <charl_> cat on the tail? come on guys !!!
[18:14] <charl_> i know it is sunday but seriously drink more coffee ;)
[18:17] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffee on
[18:17]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[18:17] <Kilos> cat on or by the tail?
[18:17] <charl_> Maaz_: coffee please
[18:17] <Maaz_> charl_: Okay
[18:17] <charl_> by the tail sorry
[18:17] <Kilos> np
[18:17] <charl_> you have the cat by the tail hahaha
[18:18] <charl_> cat /var/log/syslog | tail
[18:18] <charl_> there you have the cat by the tail :P
[18:21] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Kilos and charl_!
[18:21] <Kilos> Maaz_, thanks man
[18:21] <Maaz_> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[18:22] <charl_> Maaz_: danke
[18:22] <Maaz_> Bitteschön
[18:23] <charl_> maaz our channel butler
[18:23] <Maaz_> charl_: What?
[18:23] <charl_> lol
[18:24] <magespawn> nice one charl_ 
[18:25] <magespawn> in this case though, that would be a good ting
[18:25] <magespawn> thing
[18:44] <charl_> i'm looking at this: http://rdfa.info/
[18:44] <charl_> very interesting stuff, have never used it
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos: too much talking is a problem... too little talking is a problem... just keep it going 
[19:00] <Kilos> nag nag nag one would swear we are married
[19:01] <Kilos> evening inetpro 
[19:01] <inetpro> ja ja
[19:01] <Kilos> hehe
[19:02] <inetpro> stop worrying about small things man
[19:02] <Kilos> if you dont worry about the small things the big ones cripple you
[19:03] <inetpro> ai! 
[19:04] <Kilos> ons het 27mm gekry gisteraand
[19:04] <inetpro> 24
[19:04] <Kilos> lekker geval
[19:04] <inetpro> baie lekker 
[19:04] <Kilos> have you planted coriander?
[19:05] <inetpro> what is that? 
[19:05] <magespawn> lol
[19:05] <Kilos> alle markte en indier winkels koop die blare
[19:05] <inetpro> :) 
[19:05] <magespawn> a herb
[19:05] <Kilos> dhania
[19:05] <Kilos> colyander
[19:06] <Kilos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriander
[19:06] <magespawn> sorry spice
[19:06] <Kilos> ya spice
[19:06] <magespawn> hi inetpro 
[19:06] <inetpro> magespawn: hi
[19:07]  * inetpro should try that stuff 
[19:07] <charl_> ooh that is a nice herb
[19:07] <Kilos> have not sold it all before
[19:07] <charl_> very tasty
[19:07] <inetpro> maybe it will grow, maybe not 
[19:07] <Kilos> main spice in boerewors too
[19:08] <Kilos> it grows very well in rustenburg
[19:08] <magespawn> a general question, could you do this: mtr xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | filename ?
[19:08] <inetpro> too much of it in boerewors spoils the taste of the meat 
[19:08] <Kilos> na man
[19:08] <Kilos> where you heard that
[19:08] <inetpro> magespawn: why? 
[19:09] <magespawn> when you close mtr the results close too
[19:09] <inetpro> or rather, no why? 
[19:09] <magespawn> to keep a record to show someone else
[19:09] <magespawn> lol
[19:09] <charl_> magespawn: you have to use a special flag, one sec
[19:10] <charl_> This option puts mtr into report mode.  When in this mode, mtr will run for the number of cycles specified by the  -c  option,  and then print statistics and exit.
[19:10] <charl_> -r
[19:10] <inetpro> there's an option for running it without interactive mode 
[19:10] <inetpro> ^
[19:10] <magespawn> i thought it would be handy to be able to compare results or to show someone
[19:11] <magespawn> so: mtr -r xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[19:11] <charl_> yes
[19:11] <inetpro> magespawn: man mtr 
[19:11] <magespawn> would you have to use  -c as well
[19:11] <charl_> the default is three i think
[19:12] <charl_> so no
[19:12] <inetpro> try it 
[19:12] <magespawn> trying
[19:13] <inetpro> rtfm
[19:14] <magespawn> ran mtr t got this http://slexy.org/view/s2dVZGyzOn
[19:15] <magespawn> how rude
[19:15] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <Kilos> only us left here with manners magespawn 
[19:18] <magespawn> lol
[19:18] <magespawn> no worries
[19:18] <charl_> lol
[19:18] <magespawn> i often forget that approach
[19:18] <Kilos> man sucks
[19:18] <magespawn> xkcd man toaster
[19:18] <inetpro> rude? 
[19:18] <Kilos> its it english for some other kinda foreign peeps
[19:19] <Kilos> ya rtfm and wtf are rude
[19:20] <magespawn> what does rtfm stand for?
[19:20] <inetpro> read the freaking manual, rude? 
[19:20] <charl_> jfgi
[19:20] <charl_> :D
[19:20] <Kilos> haha freaking
[19:20] <Kilos> read the f--- manual
[19:21] <Kilos> freaking gets added to cover guilt
[19:21] <charl_> read the fracking manual, galactica-style :D
[19:21] <magespawn> flaming?
[19:21] <magespawn> fun?
[19:21] <Kilos> sigh
[19:21] <Kilos> van der merwes favourite word
[19:22] <charl_> yes van der merwe, have you seen him in the new film ?
[19:22] <charl_> he's very good
[19:22] <inetpro> rude is when you ask a basic question without making an effort to read the man pages 
[19:22] <charl_> don't point your f****** tentacles at me man
[19:23] <Kilos> Maaz_, google man inetpro
[19:23] <Maaz_> Kilos: "„iNet Pro - Netzwerk Scanner“ für iPhone, iPod touch und iPad im ..." https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/inet-pro-netzwerk-scanner/id305242949?mt=8 :: "The iNet Network Toolbox for Mac" http://www.inetapp.de/ :: "iNet Pro - Network Scanner - iOS-iPhone-App - AppWelt - PC-WELT" http://www.pcwelt.de/apps/iNet-Pro-Netzwerk-Scanner-3281119.html :: "Cisco slip
[19:23] <Maaz_> puts hardware at risk • The Channel" http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2013/03/20/cisc…
[19:23] <magespawn> indeed
[19:24] <inetpro> sorry magespawn :-)
[19:24] <Kilos> i go sleeeeep now
[19:25] <Kilos> good night all you geeks types
[19:25]  * inetpro is as guilty as anyone else many a time
[19:25] <magespawn> no worries, all in good humour
[19:25] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[19:25] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[19:25] <inetpro> good night oom Kilos
[19:25] <Kilos> nag boetie
[19:25] <Kilos> hope you all have a good week ahead
[19:25] <magespawn> i tried to explain that xkcd to a non computer person the other day
[19:28] <inetpro> lol
[19:28] <charl_> ama-gents, have a good evening :)
[19:29] <magespawn> blank looks and stares all round
[20:35] <magespawn> good night all